1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, luck and load. So Michael 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Arry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Joking in the Mico. 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: We gotta beat it. 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Beat. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 3: I don't plan to shave, and it's good thing, but 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: I just gotta see I'm doing it all right. We'll 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: go make some point meets. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm beating verdict that the juke it's neither drinking a drug. 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Well remember, oh, I don't know. 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: A few weeks ago and for the last six months, 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: where we've all said, the most important piece of legislation 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: facing the United States Congress today it's bogged down in 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: the Senate is the Save Act, because if we don't 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: have elections within tech, then we won't have elections. You 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: know the old Stalin line. It's not who gets the vote, 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: it's who counts the vote. And we saw what happened 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty and nobody other than President Trump would 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: have come back from that. 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: It's amazing that he did. 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: But if they have the chance to do it again, 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: they won't allow him or anyone else to take over. 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: The problem is what we've learned and suspected, but it's 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: been verified since the Senate runoff or Texas Republican primary 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: runoff process began on Wednesday morning after the Tuesday night 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: vote or Tuesday night count, we realize that the Republicans 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: are not actually trying to get it passed, and the 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: negotiations to get Donald Trump to endorse Cornyin and get 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: Paxton to step down when Paxton is almost certain to 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: win the runoff talk about that later in the show. 31 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: Has proven that the piece that they're negotiating. 32 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: With was the Save Act. 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: So now we have a president negotiating with the Republican 34 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: senator for the Republican majority to pass a bill that 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: was supposed to be able to protect Republicans against Democrats 36 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: and voter fraud. Oh it's nasty. What a tangled web 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: they weave when first they practiced to deceive and it's 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: all now been exposed and we will get to that 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: in the next segment. 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: But first, some. 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: Of you may have been at the airport or had 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: friends and family at the airport for what was third 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: World embarrassment, three and four hour wait times to get 44 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: through the TSA at Hobby Airport yesterday. The story from 45 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: KPRC TV this is this is and this is this 46 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: is all the shutdown because we have to keep heavy shutdowns. 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: Go ahead for many travelers this week. The race to 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: spring break starts right here at the airport. 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: Did not expect to start the line outside in the parking. 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: Garage, at least at Houston's Hobby Airport? 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 6: Then did you come to the airport early? 52 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Very early? 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 4: Travelers waiting three hours or longer just to get through 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: TSA screening. Airport officials say the long lines are tied 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: to the partial government shutdown. 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I think it needs to be cleaned up because it's 57 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: just not good. A lot of people are missing flights. 58 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: Well, some passengers got a heads up. I think everyone 59 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: has been communicated with so it's not too stressful. Others 60 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: say they were blindsided. 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: Did you expect anything like this? 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: No? 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: Not, what's Jamal Bannon was even recording a time lapse 64 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: of his weight on his phone just thirty minutes before 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: his flight. 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 6: Are you gonna miss your flight? 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: Probably before many travelers can start their spring break, they 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: first find themselves standing in line for hours. 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: I've been here several times and never once missing this 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: to this logan. 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: There were also some minor delays at Bush Airport today. 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: The Deputy Secretary at DS is leaning all of these delays. 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: On the Democrats and urging them to pass the DHS 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: funding bill. The Senate is expected to vote on. 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 6: That bill tomorrow. 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, on Thursday, the House passed legislation that would reopen 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security, with four Democrats voting with 78 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: Republicans in a two twenty one to two seventeen vote. 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: The bill now heads to the Senate, where a bill 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: where a vote, as she noted, is expected today. What's 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: interesting about this is that it's unnecessary. We're always in 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: the process of a shutdown, and it might make you wonder, well, why. 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Do we have to keep doing this? 84 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Because this is exactly what they want, because during shutdowns 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: you cannot ignore the government. The goal of people in 86 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: public office is to affect your life twenty four to 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: seven such that you cannot get away from them. You 88 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: will give money to them so that you can have 89 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: gas prices that you can afford to take a trip on. 90 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: You will give money to them so that you can 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 3: have the health care you want. You will give money 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 3: to them for your social Security, for your bailout, for 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: every aspect of your life that they control. And by 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: just funding for a few months at a time, we 95 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: have the constant threat, so it appeases their base and 96 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: frustrates the other side. And this keeps politics at the 97 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: forefront of your mind because look what they can do 98 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: to you. You think government doesn't matter to you, Will 99 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: will show you, will shut the government down. And both 100 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: sides are raising money on it, and both sides are 101 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: This is exactly what they intend to happen. This isn't 102 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: an accident. It wasn't that somebody forgot to turn off 103 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: the lights or left a valve open. 104 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: This is by design. 105 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 3: You being stuck at the airport means that you rush 106 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: back because nobody knows what happened or how it happens. 107 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: And what do people say? This ain't no good. We 108 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: need to do something about this. They need to get 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: work fix it. It's not that hard. You just cast 110 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: a vote. It's not that difficult. We've been funding TSA 111 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: for a very very, very long time. Why don't we 112 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: hand it over to the airlines so the airlines can 113 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: handle it. And then airlines like Spirit where they have 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: riots on every other plane, it seems like they can 115 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: handle theirs. And you'll go, oh, I don't want to 116 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: get on that. And airlines that want to charge a 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: little more, and people that want to pay a little 118 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: more will go through an airline that is safe because 119 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: there will be value in keeping bad people off. And 120 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: before you tell me that's a terrible idea, you think 121 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: our TSA is doing such a good job as it is. Now, 122 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: why do we even have the government doing this? We 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: don't have the government providing security at every other function. 124 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: We privatize all sorts of that. You don't you go 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: to a Rockets game or a Texans game or an 126 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Astros game. It's not the government providing security the stadium themselves. 127 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: They have an inherent obligation. It is in their financial 128 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: best interest, their business plan, best interest to keep the 129 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: stadium safe, and they've done a pretty good job of 130 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: it with the airlines. We've handed that over to the government. 131 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: When did we ever want to hand anything to the government? 132 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: And who are the TSA agents and how much are 133 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: we paying them? And what are the silly requirements? I 134 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: know there's no customer service component of their training. Well, 135 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: we'll get to all that in just a moment. I 136 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: know a lot of people are frustrated. It was a 137 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: very very difficult time in HU at the airport over 138 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: the weekend for folks, especially you've got kids. 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: You're going on. 140 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: This is spring break for a lot of schools this 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: week and next week. It's infuriating. It's absolutely infuriating, and 142 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: it should never happen. But we're going to talk about 143 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: John Corny in one John Cornyn has to step down 144 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: in the game he's played. 145 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to be surprised to hear 146 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: how many. 147 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: Bad things John Cornyn has done, how bad his record 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: really is. 149 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Coming on very show chap tone indicates everything is writing. 150 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: For your call. 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: The Texas Senate race is by far the most important 152 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: race of the cycle, and all eyes right now are 153 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: a President Trump to see who he endorses. And look, 154 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: I understand it is very rare for a sitting president 155 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: to endorse against an incumbent senator in his party. Now, 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: President Trump rightfully endorsed a primary challenger to Senator Bill Cassidy, 157 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 5: who deserved it. 158 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 6: He voted to impeach Trump. 159 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: But I would actually argue that Cornyn is much worse 160 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 5: than Senator Cassidy for every controversial decision President Trump has made, 161 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: and of course by controversial, I mean something that morning 162 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 5: Joe and Mika don't like. But for every I guess 163 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 5: controversial decision. There is a statement from John Cornyan criticizing President. 164 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 6: Trump about it. And you know, we knew Cornan was bad. 165 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 5: But the barrage of oppo that has dropped on him 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: over the last seventy two hours exposing Cordon's record, I 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: am in shock. 168 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 6: Just how bad it is. 169 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: I decided to get out my copy of Government Gangsters 170 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: here by cash MATEL. In this book, cash MATEL lists 171 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: out there's an index of names of the worst and 172 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 5: most corrupt deep State actors. 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 6: And I went through the list of names and next 174 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 6: name by name. 175 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 5: And just searched that person's name, and then John Cornan's statement. Literally, 176 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 5: without fail John Cornan has defended every single bad actor 177 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: listed in this book. I mean, like it is just 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: it is amazing to me that he goes out of 179 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: his way. When Trump criticized Gina Haspell, for example, Cornyn 180 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 5: went on television and said she was doing. 181 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: A fantastic job. 182 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: And when Trump fired Mark Esper, Cornan went on TV 183 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 5: and called it unhelpful and unnecessary. When Trump criticized doctor 184 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: Fauci for refusing to open schools and businesses, John Corny 185 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 5: called Fauci and national treasure. When Biden nominated notorious Russigate 186 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: host co conspirator Lisa Monico for Deputy ag Corny took 187 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 5: to the Senate for to give a full throated, glowing 188 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: endorsement for re nomination. When Trump wanted to fire Robert Mueller, 189 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 5: Cortin defendan Mueller's honor, saying it would be a huge 190 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 5: mistake for Trump to fire him. When Trump fired James Coney, 191 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: Cordon went on TV and called it a troubling and 192 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 5: terrible decision where recorded, I mean repeatedly praised and slabboard 193 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 5: over James Comy, calling him a good and decent man. 194 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: Quick reminder, James Comy called for the assassination of President Trump. 195 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 5: When the sham Egen Carrol verdict came out, Cornyn ran 196 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: to MSBC to say that this because of this verdict, 197 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 5: Donald Trump was unelectable and shouldn't run again. When Alvin 198 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 5: Bragg was indicting Trump, John Corny defendant Bragg and said 199 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: the process was necessary and needed to play out. Regarding 200 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: January sixth, John Cornyn compared it to nine to eleven, 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: then called the j six attendees quote white supremacists, domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, rioters, seditionists, 202 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: and anarchists. 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 6: He then asked then FBI. 204 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: Director Chris Ray if a new law was needed to 205 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: charge the J six attendees with domestic terrorism. And when 206 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: the Senate tried to impeach Donald Trump for a second time, 207 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: Hornet's only complaint was that the impeachment process was actually 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: holding up them and delaying Biden being able to get 209 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 5: his cabinet nominees confirmed. 210 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 6: And I could go on and on. 211 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: Carolyn Wrenn, who you heard there, is the former National 212 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: Finance director for President Trump. She's our guest, and yes, 213 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: we would like her to go on and on. Carolyn, 214 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to the program. 215 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 216 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: As a fellow Texan, you have have a great stake 217 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: in this in addition to being someone who's been around 218 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: the process for a long time. I have to tell 219 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: you I was big for Paxton. I still am as 220 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: an attorney general. He's the best attorney general and in 221 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: the great set of Texas in my lifetime, by pure actions, 222 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: by actions taken by cases brought by cases, one by 223 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: willingness to take on big tech, big pharma, you name it. 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: And he has had a bullseye on him because of that, 225 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: and I think that's a big part of a lot 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: of what's going on here, as well as the swamp 227 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: wanting to keep one of their own because they can 228 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: control him, and the swamp hating Trump. But let's get 229 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: to exactly what has happened a little bit of an 230 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: overview before we get into kind of the receipts of 231 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: one by one. I have to tell you, being around 232 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: this process for a minute, I've never seen the base 233 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: and conservative influencers rally together against a sitting incumbent like 234 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: this in my lifetime. Since last Wednesday, when President Trump 235 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: made this statement that he was going to endorse one 236 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: and push the other one out, the reaction has and 237 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: my understanding is Trump has stood down from that and 238 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: is quite angry he didn't get better advice on it. 239 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if you have any insight on that. 240 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: That is what I've heard as well. I think that 241 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: there are some folks within the White House that I 242 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: guess feel strongly that Corny should get the endorsement. And 243 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: so you know, right now, President Trump's busiessman in the world. He's, 244 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, our commander in chief. We're in a war 245 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: with Iran. He's got the weight of the world on 246 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: his shoulders, and you know, the only sees limited information, 247 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: and so I do worry. And this is kind of 248 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: why there's been so many of us being so vocal, 249 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: is that he's not being shown just you know, the 250 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: amount of times that Cornyn has just been absolutely awful 251 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: to him. And Cornyn doesn't go on Fox News to 252 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: say this stuff. He runs to his friends at morning Joe, MSNBC, CNN, 253 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: c SPAN, And it's not like Donald Trump sitting around 254 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: watching you know, MSNBC. So this is why I think 255 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: it is so important and why we've gotten extremely loud 256 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: over the last seventy two hours is because we're just 257 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: trying to make sure that that President Trump and other 258 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: folks in the White House are reminded that at every 259 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: single turn, John Cornyn is in no way an ally, 260 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: he is, in fact an enemy. 261 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: Carolyn ren is our guest, a very good follow on 262 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: Twitter if you're looking for more background on what she's 263 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: talking about. The premise behind all of this that the 264 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: Swamp has to use is electability. Paxton cannot be elected. 265 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: Even though they impeached him, he got re elected. He's 266 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: never lost these statewide elections. He just keeps winning, and 267 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: the Bush, the Bush machine is behind him. Texans for 268 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: Lawsuit Reform is against him. Sorry is against him, the 269 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: Swamp is against him. All these big money people are 270 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: against him. Karl Rove is against him. He just keeps winning. 271 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: Cornan's never really had a battle. But I'd like to 272 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: address the fact that their argument is, well, Paxton can't 273 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: win in November. Only Cornyan is electable. And what's interesting 274 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: about this, Carolyn Wren, is that's the exact argument Cornan 275 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: used to tell Trump he shouldn't run in twenty twenty four. 276 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: You're not electable. 277 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: That is what the establishment loves to use. That is 278 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: their favorite line to use with people, and that you 279 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: were spot on because that is what they kept saying 280 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump over and over, is he can't win, 281 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: and it's ridiculous. Paxton has won twice statewide. And even 282 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: this morning, some new polling came out and it actually 283 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: has that John Cornyan has a lower favorable rate than 284 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: pax It. And why that is amazing is Paxon just 285 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: took on a seventy million dollar barrage of negative TV 286 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: ads and still has higher favorite versus than Cornan. And 287 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: there's been zero dollars spent against Cornyn. I mean, seventy 288 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: five percent of voters in the state of Texas, this 289 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: is general election voters disliked John Cornyan because they have 290 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: watched him for four terms just at every single church 291 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: not be representative of what the people of Texas want. 292 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: And so you don't even have to spend a bunch 293 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: of money on Cornan because the people of Texas know this. 294 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: And so can you imagine when the Democrats actually start 295 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: to spend money against Cornyan, it's gonna be on the like, 296 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: there's gonna just be if he's already out twenty five percent? 297 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: Can you grab how much lower you can go? And 298 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: the thing about pax It is there's nothing left to 299 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: come out about him. And here's a good example of 300 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: something that happened this weekend that was very frustrating to me. 301 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine who put out as 302 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: a state legislator and put out an endorsement of Paxson. 303 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: And this legislatures is actually in a different state, and 304 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: she immediately got a call from the White House saying, 305 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: you cannot you need to rescind your endorsement. Tim Haxson's 306 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: the horse records are going to come out. It can 307 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: be really bad. So she calls to tell me this 308 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: and I said, wait a minute, it's the worcehreders already came. 309 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: Out, were already published. They've dragged them out again and again. 310 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk about John Cornyn's partial. 311 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Life and just. 312 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: The Michael Very show your photo matters. 313 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: Caroline Wrenn is our guest. 314 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: She is one of the folks who have been getting 315 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: a lot of action on social media over the weekend 316 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: talking about the record that is John Cornyan. There is 317 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: a primary in about nine weeks now, primary runoff, and 318 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: I would remind you folks when we talk about. 319 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Electability, I've been through a few of these. 320 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: We've talked about the Ted Cruz twenty twelve win, when 321 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Ted Cruz comes out of the position that nobody knows of, 322 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: Solicitor general and beats the sitting lieutenant governor who poured 323 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: a ton of cash in, who had never had a 324 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: glove laid on him, who had been spending money on 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: Republicans Republican women's groups, who was polling very high. Cruz 326 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: comes out of nowhere with Tea Parties support. 327 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: After the general. 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: After the first round of the primary, when Cruz makes 329 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: it into the runoff. Everyone knew the race was over 330 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: even though Dewhurst was in the lead, and the reason 331 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: was because we know who shows up in Republican primary runoffs, 332 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: and it's the people that John Cornyn said last week 333 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: are radicals. The way he won't win is if the 334 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: radicals show up, and that's you, Carolyn Rennet. It sounds 335 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: like you might be a radical as well. 336 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: I am a I'm a radical conservative that you demands 337 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: that my representatives represent what they say they're going to 338 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: and John corn does do that. 339 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: Make America accountable again. 340 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: Here was a quote on that was posted on Fox 341 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: News in twenty twenty four, credited to John Cornyan. 342 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: He's talking about Donald Trump. 343 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 3: I do not think he could win the presidency, and 344 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: so I think, regardless of what you think about him 345 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: as an individual, to me, electability is the sole criterion. 346 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: They have suggested that Ken Paxton's messy divorce, which by 347 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: the way, Donald Trump had a couple of them. 348 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: There are more. 349 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: There are more than a few folks listening right now 350 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 3: who've been through a messy divorce and it doesn't make 351 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: you an awful person. Maybe all made up for the kids, 352 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: or maybe you never did it happens. It's unfortunate. We're 353 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: looking to send somebody to DC who's going to fight 354 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: for us. Paxton's record shows he'll do that. Cornyan's record 355 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: shows he won't, and that's what we're here to talk about. 356 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: I agree, And also like the regarding the they're trying 357 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: to say he's unelectable because of a messy divorce. I'm sorry. 358 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: Find me the Christian voter in Texas who's going to say, oh, 359 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: you know what, I can't vote for Ken Paxton because 360 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: he's divorced. So instead, I'm going to vote for James 361 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: tall Rico, the guy that thinks that God is non 362 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: binary and pro choice. Find me that voter. 363 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: Well said, let's go through some of the things that 364 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: you have pointed out, because I think when folks, as 365 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 3: you pointed out, a lot of what Cornyn does, he 366 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: does over on the left and in the swamp that 367 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 3: doesn't make it onto Fox News and folks may not 368 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: know it. I'm going to bounce around here, but after 369 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: January sixth, Well, I remind everyone President Trump pardoned the 370 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: folks involved on January sixth, twenty twenty one. We'll play 371 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: the audio later after Carolyn's gone of John Cornyn talking 372 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: about the Jay sixers as white supremacist, domestic terrorists, anarchists 373 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: and asking Christopher Ray, the FBI rector, do you need 374 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: a new law for domestic terrorism so we can put 375 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: these people away? 376 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that puts what he wanted to do? 377 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: And so this this is deeply personal for me. In fact, 378 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: I was one of the first seven people subpoena by 379 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: Congress for J six It was me, Cash Bettel, Steve Bannon, 380 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: Dan Scavino, Peter Navarro. I can't remember the others because 381 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: at that time I was the national finance director for 382 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: President Trump's campaign and actually someone had called and said, 383 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, the President's going to speak at this rally 384 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: at the White House ellipse, and so they need to 385 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: raise some money because it was not a campaign event. 386 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: They needed to raise money to put that on. I 387 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: mean to when President Trump speaks at an event, costs 388 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: millions of dollars of security. And so I helped do 389 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: that and helped organize the speeches that day. And one 390 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: of the first people I called and said I need 391 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: you to come speak was Ken Paxton. Kim Paxton got 392 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: on a place the next day. And I always ask 393 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: people when you're trying to decide, you know who is 394 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: actually with Trump? Where were you on January sixth? I 395 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: can tell you Ken Paxson was on stage at the 396 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: White House Ellips calling out the sham election, while John 397 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: Cornyn was calling us domestic terrorist and colluding with chrispher 398 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: Wray to decide if we should be charged with domestic 399 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: terrorism and locked away for five to ten twenty years. 400 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: That to me, there shouldn't even have to be anything 401 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: else said in this primary than that alone. 402 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: But fortunately there is plenty more to tell. The second 403 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: Trump impeachment, Cornyn got involved. 404 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: Talk about that, Carolyn, Yeah, with the second you know 405 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: Trump of peachree if you remember the second Trump appeachment, 406 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: Trump was out of office at this time, and so 407 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: it was just a completely ludicrous impeachment trial. And John 408 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: corn was largely silent, except for when I found a 409 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: clip of him complaining not about the merits of this 410 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: impeachment process. He was complaining that this was slowing down 411 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: their ability to confirm Joe Biden's cabinet picks, like this 412 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: is the problem with Cornyan, and Cornan's team loves it out. 413 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh he voted ninety nine percent of the time with 414 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: President Trump. They give me break. Every senator can make 415 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: up that staff. They all like there are rarely any 416 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: votes that even come, and a lot of those are 417 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: just procedural votes. But that is not what we are 418 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: looking at here. It is that, I mean the amount 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: of times that Cornyan has not only just like obstructed 420 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: Donald Trump trash Donald Trump, but he does it in 421 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: the left wing media, which to me is just the 422 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: if you could actually back up what you if you 423 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: really believe these things that you're saying, go say it 424 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: in front of actual conservatives. But he doesn't. The one 425 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: time I've even seen him get in front of a 426 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: conservative audience was twenty twenty two when he tried to 427 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: speak at the Texas GOB convention and ten thousand delegates, 428 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: I think voot him for thirteen straight minutes off the stage. 429 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure if we've seen John Cornyan do 430 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: any type of public like the count Hall appearance in 431 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: the state of Texas since then, and that's because he can't. 432 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, not to correct, but I think it 433 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: was actually fourteen minutes. I saw that over the weekend. 434 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: It's awful either way, it's a very. 435 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: Long period of time. 436 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: And that's the base when the Republican Party that the 437 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: grassroots folks that turn out votes come to come to 438 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: the convention and you get up to speak and you're 439 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: the guy they boo, that's as unelectable as it gets. 440 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: Who do you think was in Trump's ear to try 441 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: to get him to push Paxton out by endorsing corn 442 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: In and telling him that Paxton can't win and win 443 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: end up with tall Rika. Do you have a sense 444 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: of who that might have been? 445 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Well, I do think. You know, the senior political advisors 446 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: for President Trump are working for the Corning campaign, and 447 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: I you know, I'm gonna be a little careful here 448 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: because they are friends of mine. I've known them because 449 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: I've worked for the Trump campaign for a long time, 450 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: and you know they were they were told to go 451 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: and work for corn In. So I'm not that I'm 452 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: giving them a pass there, you know. But but when 453 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: your polster, like President Trump's polster, is the polster for 454 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: corn In, So when polling is showed to President Trump, 455 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: it's from his poster, and so you know that polster 456 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: is showing him that Ken Paxton can't win. And I 457 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: always like to joke that polls are for strippers and firemen, 458 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: not for predicting elections, because these polsters will just make 459 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: up whatever they want to convince whoever their audience is 460 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: of reading it. And I think that's what's happening here. 461 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Well. 462 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: And the President after saying is going to happen quickly 463 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: and letting Thune get too far out there saying we're 464 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: pressuring the president. What do you have to pressure the 465 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: president with other than with holding the Save Act? 466 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: And that is as shameful as it gets. 467 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: And I think that that Paxton has handled this whole 468 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: thing like a maestro, saying, hey, if y'all pass the 469 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: Save Act, I'll pull out. And then he proved they 470 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: don't have any intention of passing the Save Act. 471 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: They have no intention of passing the Save Act, and 472 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: it is wildly frustrated. I mean, they may be forced 473 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: into it. It was a big deal when President Drup 474 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: said over the weekend that he's not going to sign 475 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: a single bill until this comes to his death. So 476 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: he is really putting them in a box. But what 477 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 2: I loved about what Paxton did is he recognizes that 478 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is the best deal maker in history, and 479 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: so Paxton said, all right, I'm going to give Donald 480 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: Trump the chips that he needs to go make a deal. 481 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: To make the deal. Carolyn wrin is our guest. We'll 482 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: continue our conversation coming up. A report comes out that 483 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: a new poll commissioned by the Senate Majority Pack found 484 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: quote no meaningful difference in electability end quote between Senator 485 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: John Cornyn and Texas A. G. Ken Paxton in a 486 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: general election matchup against Democrat State Rep. James tallerco So 487 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: how does John Cornyn react to the news that, well, 488 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: electability is not an issue any longer, he says, quote 489 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: translation Schumer promoting Paxton, who he knows would be the 490 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: Democrat's best chance to win a red Senate seat. Well 491 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: that's rich, John Cornyan. So the swamp wants Paxton now 492 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: and not you that that's very cute. Carolyn Wrenn as 493 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: our guest. She's a former national finance director for the 494 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: Donald Trump campaign. She's also a proud Texan and she 495 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: has been all over this issue of the attempt to 496 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: keep the Texas voters from deciding who our nominee. 497 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: Would be who will beat Taller Rico. 498 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: Come November, and we asked her to come on and 499 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: talk about some of those things, because you list a 500 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 3: lot of things that are very troubling that I want 501 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: to make sure Texans understand about the record of John Cornyn. 502 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: He called James Comy a good and decent man, a man. 503 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: Who, as you noted. 504 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: Called for the assassination of President Trump. 505 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: That's right. Comy is one of the absolute worst actors. 506 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: But again with every bad actor, there is a John 507 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: Cornyn statement defending that bad actor. And I put out 508 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: too that people have been asking me, like Carolin, how 509 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: are you finding all this opo on John Cornyn? I said, 510 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm a fundraiser. I don't do opposition research. But over 511 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: the weekend, I just google Donald trum controversy, that I 512 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: pick a controversy, that I google that controversy and John 513 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: Cornyn and then sip through dozens of statements from John 514 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: Cornan criticizing Trump for said controversy. Repeat, it's that easy, 515 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: that consistent. 516 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: You told on Twitter, Hey, anybody else wants to find 517 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: all the stuff I've found in no secrets here. This 518 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: isn't the rumor builders, this is what is in print. 519 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: This is how I did it. For people who don't 520 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 3: know who Gina Haskell and Mark esper Are. I think 521 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: those are important issues that maybe the average voter doesn't 522 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: recognize those names, right. 523 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: No, Gena Hassell was the CIA director who has plat 524 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: these are a lot of these people linked back to 525 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: the Russia Colujiah Russiagate. And why Cornyn is so critical 526 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: during this time is Cornyn was one of the most 527 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: senior members, if not the most senior member, on the 528 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee, which is where a lot of this stuff 529 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: all originated out of. Was the Judiciary Committee, that is 530 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: where these investigations came out of, where the oversight was 531 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: supposed to come out of. He was there in a 532 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: leadership position over and over again, and instead of trying 533 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: to stop this and saying this is absolutely absurd, he 534 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: was defending it. I mean he was defending everything from 535 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: weis a warrant. He's gone on consistently still to this day, saying, 536 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: oh Fwisa, you know they do not spy on Americans. 537 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: We know they do. Like, stop peeing on my leg 538 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: and telling me it's raining. That is what I feel 539 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: like with John Cornyan every day. 540 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Well, he's gotten away with it for twenty four years. 541 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: I think there's a certain amount of Hubris to him, 542 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: and Thune and Tom Tillis who's on his way out now, 543 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: and Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott. They think they can 544 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: get away with this nonsense. Mitch McConnell, that's the crew. 545 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: It's hard to believe. It's the Republicans causing us the 546 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: problems more so than the Democrats, because you know, we 547 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: have nobody to take our our at least we can 548 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: beat the Democrats. With the Republicans, they've got all the 549 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: money and they sort of suffocate our primaries. You bring 550 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: up something that's very important, and it's easy for people 551 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: to remember the recent in recent memory. Once President Trump recognized, hey, 552 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: Fauci's not the guy he's causing a lot of problems, 553 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 3: and he started saying that. In twenty twenty, Cornyn jumped 554 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: to Fauci's defense. 555 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I found a clip of Cornyn, you know, 556 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: being an interview with CNN and saying that Fauci is 557 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: a national treasure. And I'm trying to be very careful here, 558 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: and I don't want to, you know, spread misinformation. There's 559 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: no need to because there's so much with Cornyn. So 560 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in the beginning, who 561 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: are including Donald Trump, who were praising Fauci and a 562 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: lot of people who are staying at home terrified during 563 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: COVID and we were trusting Fauci. But let me be 564 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: perfectly clear here. This was very late on when and 565 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: President Trump had just come out and said, enough is enough, Fauci. 566 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: We have got to start opening schools and getting these 567 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: masks off our kids and letting businesses open. And right 568 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: after Trump made that statement is when John Cornyn ran 569 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: to CNN and said, no, Donald Trump is wrong and 570 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: Fauci is a national treasure. So we're not clipping these 571 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: things just to like, you know, screw over corn In 572 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: here or try and be misleading. This was, I mean 573 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: with every time Trump goes out and says here's what 574 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: I want to do to lead our nation, then John 575 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: Cornyn goes on MSNBC or CNN and says Trump is wrong, 576 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: and here's why. 577 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: Lisa Monico and Joe Biden talk about why that's important. 578 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Lisa Monico, It's just crazy to me. This was. 579 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: This is so far after the Russia Lisa Monico was 580 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: a key, key Russiagate host, host, co conspirator, and when 581 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: Biden nominated her to be the Deputy Attorney General. So 582 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: this was, you know, many years after the full like 583 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 2: Russiagate hopes had come to light and even Cornyan had 584 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: started to say, oh, it was all a hoax. He 585 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: then goes to the Senate floor to give a glowing 586 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: endorsement of Lisa Monico for Deputy Attorney General, for Biden's pick, 587 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: and then votes for her. Like, guys, this is this 588 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: is nuts. 589 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: What have I not brought up that you think is 590 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: important to understand about the record of John Cornyn. 591 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think that was the record of John Cornyn. 592 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: We've gone through a lot of it. But I want 593 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: to talk us for a second about the record of 594 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Ken Paxton. I've known Kim Paxton for a long time, 595 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: but how I really got to know him is I 596 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: was the fundraiser for a group called the Republican Attorney's 597 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: General Associate. It's the trade association that basically raises money 598 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: to support Republican ags, and all of our donors are corporations. 599 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: Ken Paxton was the worst member of the Republican Attorney 600 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: General Association because every corporation hated him. This is why 601 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: he is so important to get in. Why do they 602 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: hate him because Ken Paxton does not care what the 603 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: donor class or the corporations think of him. Ken Paxson 604 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: has sued every major company in this country. And this 605 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: is why DC is having such a meltdown about having 606 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: him come. Why they have to have John Cornyn is 607 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: because Ken Paxon represents and fights for we the people, 608 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: not for the corporations get backs to the sued Pfizer, Blackrock, Vanguard, 609 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 2: State Street, Google, Sheen Ali Baba, I mean, you name it. 610 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: And those are all the same people, by the way, 611 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: who are at the cocktail parties in DC donating to 612 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: the nrsc RAGA, to Thun's Senate leadership pack that just 613 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: spent seventy million dollars against Paxton. Where did they get 614 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: that money? That money is from these same corporations that 615 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: Ken Paxson has spent the last dade suing on behalf 616 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: of the people of Texas. That is what this is 617 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: all about, truly, that is what it is. That is 618 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: why if you are a Texan listening to this, you 619 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: need to do everything in your power to make sure 620 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: Kin Paxon is elected because he is not beholden to 621 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: the money in Washington or the corporations. He's beholden to you, 622 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: and that is why they cannot have him, and that 623 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: is why they are spending seventy one million, two hundred 624 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: million to keep him out, the. 625 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Most money ever spent on a Republican primary candidate of 626 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: all time, and he's taken no shots. 627 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: Yet. 628 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: Imagine what's going to happen when somebody has the money 629 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 3: to unload on him. Kim Paxton has lower unfavorables and 630 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: higher favorables in the state of Texas than John Cornyn does. 631 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: After Cornan spent all in, it ends up being close 632 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: to almost one hundred million dollars. When you look at 633 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: the outside packs and everything else. It doesn't matter the 634 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: exact number. The point is Cornyan is attacking everyone else, 635 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: and yet his numbers don't seem to move. And we 636 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: haven't even begun to discuss the fact that his daughter 637 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: works for a lobbying firm with seemingly no qualifications that 638 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: all of a sudden seems to be getting big deals 639 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: with the administration. 640 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: We'll have plenty of time to get to that in 641 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: the future. 642 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: Carolyn Wren, former national finance director for the Trump campaign, 643 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for spending. 644 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: Some time with us. 645 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 646 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: And much to get to on the show today. 647 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: This will be a subject we will be discussing quite 648 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: a bit until late May when the runoff will occur.