WEBVTT - Rays broadcaster Brian Anderson joins + Tigers post-Skubal era chat

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the sizzling Tampa Bay Rays. They've won

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<v Speaker 1>nine in a row entering Friday nights, six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half games up in the Division over the Yankees. Brian Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>Rays broadcaster does a great job on there, Brian, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us, man. What are you seeing? What's looking good?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to piggyback on you guys, your stories about

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<v Speaker 3>the hit my pitch and you know who's doing you

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<v Speaker 3>know who's angry who. When I was pictured for the Angels,

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<v Speaker 3>we were playing the Tigers and they had come into

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<v Speaker 3>town and just it was a weekend series and they

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<v Speaker 3>had just wiped this out. And I don't remember if

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<v Speaker 3>it was a three or a four game series, but

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<v Speaker 3>they had come in in the first however many games

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<v Speaker 3>they just smoked us. So I'm pitching the final game

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<v Speaker 3>of that series, day game, and we've got a five

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<v Speaker 3>to two lead, six to two lead, and hit a

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<v Speaker 3>home run off of David Wells.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who hit the home run, but Wells.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Drills our next hit her and our dugout went crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course word went out. When you get back

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<v Speaker 3>out there, Travis Frieman, take him down. You're gonna drill Frieman.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what he did, Bush lead, you know all

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<v Speaker 3>the things. So I go up there the next half fitning. Now, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Fryman, I don't think he was up until third

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<v Speaker 3>in that inning, and I'm like, okay, I've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get some outs here before I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be hitting anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You end up with two.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys on and I'm now going to hit a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, how's that going to work out? And I

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<v Speaker 3>remember Tony Phillips lined out the third hard, and then

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<v Speaker 3>finally Travis Friman came up and I put one right

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of his back.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't say a word, took his base. That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the end of the series. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>last I heard of it.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, word comes down from the visiting

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<v Speaker 3>clubhouse kids. They said when that half fitting was over,

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<v Speaker 3>Frieman went up into the clubhouse and went after David

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<v Speaker 3>Wells and was like, you you were the reason that

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<v Speaker 3>I got hit. And so they had a big thing

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<v Speaker 3>up in their clubhouse. So, yeah, a lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>guy gets hit. I'm not worried about the pitcher out there,

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<v Speaker 3>he did his job. I'm going to go to the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that got me hit. So I listen to your

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<v Speaker 3>guys stories that that was perfect. That came to mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to share it.

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<v Speaker 4>It changed. It's changed, Brian, It's changed me as you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's changed. It's you can't do this anymore. You can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't get mad at anybody no matter what anyone does.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone is happy and we're all hakuna matata, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you what, you watch it all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, And as someone who was hit many times by

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<v Speaker 5>the Rays on purpose, I mean, you guys are dirty,

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<v Speaker 5>dirty sons of guns down there. And let me tell you, Wagner,

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<v Speaker 5>what are you doing. I don't know if you remember

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<v Speaker 5>that one from Hawk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, No.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen with this team right now, I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 3>what I think that you know, having been around the

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<v Speaker 3>league enough and having been around this team enough, it

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<v Speaker 3>is the most well rounded team.

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<v Speaker 2>In the America League, hands down. I think topped about them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>You can argue maybe there are some factions of the

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<v Speaker 3>team that you know, other teams are stronger. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>know the Yankees starting pitching you could that argument, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you go top to bottom and you

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<v Speaker 3>look at starting rotation, bullpen, especially the back end, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you get into the lineup, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a deeper, more well rounded team right now, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're showing that. They showed that on this last West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast road trip. It was the first time that a

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<v Speaker 3>team from either the AL East or the NL East

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<v Speaker 3>has gone out and played teams from the NL West

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<v Speaker 3>or the AL West in a three city trip nine

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<v Speaker 3>games and gone nine to zero since the nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>seven Red Sox did it, and they won games. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing that was really interesting to me, and granted, you're

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<v Speaker 3>playing at cors, you're playing in Sacramento, so there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be some offensive numbers that are inflated. But they

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<v Speaker 3>had five games on that trip where they scored eight

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<v Speaker 3>or more runs, and they had to win some shootouts

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<v Speaker 3>because the pitching at times wasn't the best, but they

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<v Speaker 3>went out did what they had to do to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they had four games that they scored four runs

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<v Speaker 3>or few or of course won all of those, and

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<v Speaker 3>in those four games they only gave up four runs total.

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<v Speaker 2>So you saw the pitching lockdown when it needed to.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw the team be able to slug when they

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<v Speaker 3>needed to, hitting, you know, some home runs, something that

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been a big part of their offense. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I think their tenth in the American League in home runs. However,

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<v Speaker 3>if you go back to the beginning of July, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a team that's right at the top of the leaderboard.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple days ago they had hit the most. They

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<v Speaker 3>still may be up top there. So the home run

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<v Speaker 3>has has come in to be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>a part of this offense than earlier in the season.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the versatility it is. You know, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>your big three, You've got Yondi Diez, You've got Jonathan Ronda,

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<v Speaker 3>You've got Junior Cameron Aro. I think Liam Hicks was

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<v Speaker 3>a big pickup at the trade deadline to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>lengthen that lineup. As far as the power goes, He's

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect fit to for this lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Liam Hickson to this point in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Season, you know, he has more walks than strikeouts, and

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<v Speaker 3>since coming to the Rays hitting three on base of

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<v Speaker 3>four p thirty eight couple of home runs, nine driven

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<v Speaker 3>in all in eight games. But then you got guys

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<v Speaker 3>like Chandler Simpson, Taylor Walls, Johnny DeLuca, all these guys

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<v Speaker 3>that do a great job of finding a way to

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<v Speaker 3>get on base, and even if they're not get a

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<v Speaker 3>bunt down, they're very aggressive with the bunt as far

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<v Speaker 3>as trying to bunt for hits, sacrifice bunts, hit and run.

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<v Speaker 3>They play an old school style of baseball once you

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<v Speaker 3>get out of the top three of that lineup, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is really difficult. Been watching it all year long,

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<v Speaker 3>Very difficult for teams and pitchers to defend because you

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<v Speaker 3>never know when.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't play their version of small ball late in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, when the game's close. They'll do it three

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<v Speaker 3>hitters into a game. I mean, they have Chandler Simpson

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<v Speaker 3>on this road trip hit in the three hole. He

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<v Speaker 3>comes up in his first at bat, runners at first

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<v Speaker 3>and second, lays down a bunch. It turns out to

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<v Speaker 3>be a bunt for a hit, even though he was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to sacrifice. This team is difficult to defend, and

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<v Speaker 3>right now they're playing with a very, very very high

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<v Speaker 3>level of confidence.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you worry, BA you mentioned, you mentioned they're Big three.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you could make it big four.

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<v Speaker 5>Now if you're throwing Liam Hicks there that they're so

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<v Speaker 5>top heavy though they are so, I mean, because then

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<v Speaker 5>you get down to like Walls and Chandler Simpson and

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<v Speaker 5>some of the guys kind of towards the bottom. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you worry that at some point if the top four

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<v Speaker 5>don't do anything, that that bottom won't be enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that's always going to be a worry.

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<v Speaker 3>But they do it a little bit differently. They're just scrappy.

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<v Speaker 3>They find their way, you know, they find their ways

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<v Speaker 3>to get on base.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Chandler Simpson had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>rut in the middle of the year where he had

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<v Speaker 2>like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Four for forty five streak, But in the last I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, six seven weeks, he's got the top batting

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<v Speaker 3>average in the in the American League.

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<v Speaker 2>At least, you know he's doing a.

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<v Speaker 3>Better job at getting on top of the ball. Ground

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<v Speaker 3>balls and line drives are his game. He hits the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in the air, it's an out, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>do worry about that. But it's almost like the race

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<v Speaker 3>have two lineups.

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<v Speaker 2>In one.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got your top three to four and then you've

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<v Speaker 3>got that bottom half that just they're.

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<v Speaker 2>A pain in the neck to deal with.

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<v Speaker 3>And certainly it's tougher to score runs when you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to scratch across two to three hits, lay down a

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<v Speaker 3>sacrifice bunt, have everything work out perfectly to score that

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<v Speaker 3>run or two.

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<v Speaker 2>But these guys have found a way to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you another name of a guy who has

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<v Speaker 3>really come on for this team. Victor Mason Junior, is

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<v Speaker 3>getting more opportunities to play out there in right field.

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<v Speaker 3>He's an outstanding defender, gets great jumps, takes great routes,

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<v Speaker 3>has a cannon for an arm, and he's hit ten

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<v Speaker 3>home runs and one hundred and fifty five at bats,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's been, you know, on the offensive side, he

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<v Speaker 3>has been coming through in a big way.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got different guys that have been stepping up.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right, when you look at that top three,

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<v Speaker 3>it does look top heavy, but that bottom five to six,

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<v Speaker 3>they can find different ways to score and it just

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a pain to deal with because it's literally like

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<v Speaker 3>having two lineups in one.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, I want you to divulge in this column that

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<v Speaker 7>just came out about Yondi Dias in his leadership and

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<v Speaker 7>on and off the field, because I got to play

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<v Speaker 7>with him in Cleveland, a little bit, and he's as

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<v Speaker 7>quiet as could be then, But obviously he was upcoming,

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<v Speaker 7>and he was younger and all that, and yet I've

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<v Speaker 7>never seen a bigger chest and biceps fit into a

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<v Speaker 7>jersey in my entire life. That guy does not skipping

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<v Speaker 7>an entire day. And I was always I disagreed with

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<v Speaker 7>Cleveland a lot on this where they wanted him to

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<v Speaker 7>try to lift the ball a little bit more. They

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<v Speaker 7>wanted him to get into the air because they see

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<v Speaker 7>this huge, massive being and they're like, the power's got

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<v Speaker 7>to be there, and he certainly does have power. But

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<v Speaker 7>this guy was born with a line drive swing that

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<v Speaker 7>goes all over the field. And I just always watched

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<v Speaker 7>him hitting be b and absolutely loved what I saw.

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<v Speaker 7>But it sounds like he's turning into quite the leader too.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>He does so much for this team, yet you put

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<v Speaker 3>him right up there at the top of the order.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the one thing that the Rays did.

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<v Speaker 3>And to your point, not only did Cleveland want him

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<v Speaker 3>to get the ball in the air more because of

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<v Speaker 3>his size and strength, but he consistently hits.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he gets the barrel to the baseball as

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<v Speaker 3>well as any so you could see why you would.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to turn him into that guy. The Rays they

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<v Speaker 2>just let him go.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what I will tell you following him

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<v Speaker 3>all these years, he has the most tried and true

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<v Speaker 3>approach that I've seen that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Not deviate from.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what Yondi does is he lets the fastball

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<v Speaker 3>that's middle of the plate and away. He lets that

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<v Speaker 3>fastball get deep into the zone and then shoots it

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<v Speaker 3>back up the middle or hits it the other way.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just his game. And then if you roll a

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<v Speaker 3>braking ball and something hangs, that's when he'll get the

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<v Speaker 3>barrel through the zone, catch it out front, and now

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<v Speaker 3>he can put some backspin on it to left field

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<v Speaker 3>for an extra base hit, maybe even a home run.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he catches.

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<v Speaker 3>Backspin on the fastball the other way, I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>hits a you know, he'll hit a good number of

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<v Speaker 3>home runs that way. The one pitch that Yondy concedes

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<v Speaker 3>is the fastball in He doesn't like it, and because

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<v Speaker 3>he likes to let the fastball travel, that's a pitch

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<v Speaker 3>that can give him trouble. But he's smart enough to

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<v Speaker 3>realize in today's game, where command is not the name

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<v Speaker 3>of the game, like it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>He's betting. I know you'd like to. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can pop fastballs in there consistently, you might

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get me. But I know that you

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<v Speaker 3>can't number one, because you may not be comfortable pitching in.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of guys aren't comfortable pitching in. There's an

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<v Speaker 3>art to do that. Aj you would know that better

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<v Speaker 3>than anybody sitting behind the plate calling the pitches.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's an art to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Some guys aren't comfortable doing that, and some guys that

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<v Speaker 3>are aren't capable.

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<v Speaker 2>And Yavi knows eventually, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna pull one towards the middle, and I'm gonna line

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<v Speaker 3>that one back up the middle. And he does not

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<v Speaker 3>deviate from that approach, and it has been it has

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<v Speaker 3>been so fun to watch because it's been year after

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<v Speaker 3>year after year, and he doesn't deviate, he doesn't change,

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<v Speaker 3>He does his thing. All he wants to know about

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<v Speaker 3>a pitcher, what's his velocity, what's his top velocity. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>take it from there.

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<v Speaker 5>That's called hitting, Brian Anderson, that's called hitting. Just that's

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<v Speaker 5>how guy, but that's how guys used to hit. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what we always talked about, is hey, let the fastball

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<v Speaker 5>get deep, hit the fastball the other way, and then

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<v Speaker 5>if they hang a breaking ball, you're on time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>that's how it wasn't Hey let me get out front

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<v Speaker 5>and try to just back spin everything. I'll take my

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<v Speaker 5>hits to ryfield as a right handed hitter, and especially

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<v Speaker 5>when you're struggling, and then hey, they hang at breaking ball. Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>I clipped it. That used to be hitting. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>hitting anymore. So we don't have time to get into that.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know about Freddie Peek. Freddie p was

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<v Speaker 5>a great clubhouse guy everywhere he's been Milwaukee, New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Right he's come over to Tampa. He hasn't had great starts.

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<v Speaker 5>How's he fitting in in Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>He's fitting in flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know Brian Anderson, the OGBA, if we want to

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<v Speaker 3>go down that route as far as TV broadcasting, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he had him in Milwaukee. He was the play by

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<v Speaker 3>play guy still is with the Brewers. And he reached

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<v Speaker 3>out to me right away and said, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you right now, you're gonna love this kid, and

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<v Speaker 3>he is going to fit into that clubhouse. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the perfect fit. And speak of that, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the other thing I'll tell you. All the

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<v Speaker 3>years that I have been around teams down here with

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<v Speaker 3>the Rays and even teams that I played on, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the closest knit group that I can remember. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was an off day we started the season in

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis, and so the day before the game, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole team went out to dinner. Okay, not not unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we had the game, and then you had a

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<v Speaker 3>Friday off. They had that built in potential weather day.

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<v Speaker 3>On that Friday, the whole team meets in the lobby again,

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<v Speaker 3>they go out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward to this last road trip.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a day off in Seattle, finish up at

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<v Speaker 3>cors fly into Seattle, have an off day down on

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<v Speaker 3>the hotel lobby. Here come twenty twenty two of the

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<v Speaker 3>guys all going out to dinner. It kind of unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>You get groups here there that go This team is

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<v Speaker 3>as close as it gets. And when you see Freddy

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<v Speaker 3>interacting with you know, his teammates already, You're like, yeah,

0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.400
<v Speaker 3>they've already embraced him, and he is a complete fit

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<v Speaker 3>for this team. And I think that that's why may

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<v Speaker 3>the nerves of the first start in course Field for

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<v Speaker 3>Freddy where it didn't go very well, Maybe that had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to do with it. But I do know

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<v Speaker 3>that he looked much more comfortable his last time out

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<v Speaker 3>in enough tough venue to another tough venue to pitch

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<v Speaker 3>in in Sacramento and put up a quality start, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>six innings, you know, the three earned runs, and look

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<v Speaker 3>much more comfortable out on the mound than he did

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<v Speaker 3>in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that he's gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you guys couldn't have done him any favors.

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<v Speaker 5>You make him start a Can we not start him

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<v Speaker 5>in Seattle?

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<v Speaker 4>Somehow? Give him a little bit of a soft landing spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, throw him into the fire, Throw him into the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Those are two tough places, for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>But they won. They won every game. Ye I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>ask you this, and I know you you're raised guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the division over is six and a half game lead?

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<v Speaker 5>We're almost into September. Do the Rays have a big

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<v Speaker 5>enough lead that we can say they're gonna win the

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<v Speaker 5>Al East?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? No, I don't think that the Rays

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<v Speaker 2>want to feel that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I certainly don't want to feel that way that

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<v Speaker 3>Rays have a tougher portion of their schedule coming. I

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<v Speaker 3>think their next four or five series are against teams

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<v Speaker 3>that currently would be in the playoffs. And maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean a whole lot, because you know, the American

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<v Speaker 3>League is so down, but yeah, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>by any stretch over at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you get a six and a half a seven

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<v Speaker 3>game lead, and a week from now we're having the

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<v Speaker 3>same conversation, you start to get into that territory where

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, you know what if you don't win this division,

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<v Speaker 3>then the the C word, the collapse word, maybe starts

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<v Speaker 3>to get dropped because now you've got to you're a

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<v Speaker 3>week closer, you know, to the end of August.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got this big lead, and you have to you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's where they're That's the position they're putting themselves in,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a great position to be.

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<v Speaker 2>In, to have that kind of a lead.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think right now they are focused on the

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<v Speaker 3>day to day. I mean, I'm not comfortable with that leads.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a wonderful lead, but we've seen how quickly it

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<v Speaker 3>can go. It wasn't that long ago. The Rays have

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<v Speaker 3>been on a really good run obviously as of late,

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<v Speaker 3>but coming out of the All Star Break when Boston

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<v Speaker 3>was red hot. They Boston swept them in a four

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<v Speaker 3>game series and outscored them twenty eight to ten. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the team goes to Toronto and loses the first

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<v Speaker 3>game up there, so that quick five games let New

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<v Speaker 3>York you know, right back in it, and so something

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<v Speaker 3>like that can happen, and then you double down the

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<v Speaker 3>final week of the season. The Rays finished the season

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<v Speaker 3>on the road at the New York Yankees, four game

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<v Speaker 3>series in three days with a doubleheader, and then at Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 3>so they've got some tough games coming up. The Yankees

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<v Speaker 3>may still have to say if they can get down

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<v Speaker 3>to that final week of the season, they've got the

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<v Speaker 3>We got an off day on Monday, doubleheader Tuesday, played

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<v Speaker 3>them Wednesday, Thursday, and then and then move it along.

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<v Speaker 3>So at that point the Rays want to be out

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<v Speaker 3>of reach, no question about it. But we will see

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<v Speaker 3>there's still a tough road to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this team. I think they'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hand that. I loved the Liam Hicks addition two, which

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<v Speaker 1>we can get into after. I had one question for

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<v Speaker 1>you though, kind of relating back to the Yondi factor.

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<v Speaker 1>How different is the mix this year compared to I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was last year or maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>year before. They were public and vocal about how they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like they had the right mesh behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>We always debate that, like how much does it really

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<v Speaker 1>matter versus the talent you have? But you follow the

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<v Speaker 1>team every day, So can you take us through the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline of how things changed in terms of who is

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<v Speaker 1>running the ship from the player perspective and how that

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<v Speaker 1>affects what you see on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean I've heard the same whispers.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever they had was going on was something that was

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<v Speaker 3>not I mean I never saw it. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>hear things, but I'm like, man on the plane of

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<v Speaker 3>them downstairs out on the field, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You never saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>But this iteration, and we've talked about it earlier, this

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<v Speaker 3>team is as close. I'm telling you, I really haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen that for the Race. Just speaking of my time

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<v Speaker 3>with the Race, I've never seen a more close knit

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<v Speaker 3>team and certainly a guy that doesn't get a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of You ask anybody around the team about who the

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<v Speaker 3>leader of the team is and I think that it

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<v Speaker 3>would be the guy that they nicknamed El Presidente. And

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<v Speaker 3>and this is really strange too, because you don't typically

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<v Speaker 3>find that kind of leadership for a team coming from

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<v Speaker 3>a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 2>But Nick Martinez is the glue on this team.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Martinez is the guy that gets all of the

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<v Speaker 3>dinners put together, gets everything organized.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was funny because he had an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 3>his first nine inning complete game win his last time out,

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<v Speaker 3>and after the eighth inning or after the seventh inning,

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Cash had gone to him and said, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think And He's like, do you even need

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<v Speaker 3>to ask me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm finishing this game.

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<v Speaker 3>And then after the eighth inning, you know when he's

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<v Speaker 3>going back out there, it got a little bumpy in

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<v Speaker 3>the ninth a couple of runs, some extra base hits,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're thinking, oh my gosh, they're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>get him.

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<v Speaker 2>You're taking that shot down to the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>And Kevin Kash had said after the game that that

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<v Speaker 3>dugout wanted that complete game for him so badly. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way I could have gone and got him.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's the kind of cachet that he has with

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<v Speaker 3>his teammates where they they're gonna win the game a

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<v Speaker 3>huge lead, but they want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>He had one complete game in his.

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<v Speaker 3>Career and it was the final start a couple of

0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.239
<v Speaker 3>seasons ago when he was with Cincinnati. He lost a

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<v Speaker 3>one nothing game in Chicago, so it was an eight

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<v Speaker 3>inning complete game in a loss. So this was his

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<v Speaker 3>first chance to get a nine inning complete game. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>with the win. And I guess that the buzz down

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<v Speaker 3>in that dugout was he finishes, he finishes this game,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course he did and he got it. But

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<v Speaker 3>that is the kind of group that that has been

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<v Speaker 3>a mass that right there, that guy right there, Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Martinez is the un He may not even be the

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<v Speaker 3>unherralded leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this team at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh but but yeah, it's it's his close knit of

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<v Speaker 3>a group.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it does matter. I don't. It doesn't always

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily have to matter.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's lots of teams throughout history where that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the case. You had twenty five players, twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>cabs after a game. We've all heard the stories. But

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<v Speaker 3>this team, they have a special, a special bond. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's apparent to anybody who spends a minute around them.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that matters too. I think that's very important

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<v Speaker 7>for teams that want to go deep into October. You said,

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<v Speaker 7>this lineup I think is lengthier than we're giving a credit.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they have speed. I think they play the

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<v Speaker 7>right way. They lay the bunts down, So I love that.

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<v Speaker 7>The pitching. Let's say things do stay the course. Let's

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<v Speaker 7>say they make it into postseason baseball. What are you

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<v Speaker 7>worried about for this team? What could be the one

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<v Speaker 7>thing that does this team in that might be something

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<v Speaker 7>that they face. What's maybe their weakness or what can

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<v Speaker 7>they go up against that might be the trick to

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<v Speaker 7>beat this hot team.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, the only thing that I see as

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<v Speaker 3>an achilles heel, and this is, you know, paining with

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<v Speaker 3>a broad brush, the huge strikeout team. As far as

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<v Speaker 3>the pitching, you know, they're way down. They're thirteenth, fourteenth

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<v Speaker 3>in the America League in strikeouts, and you know how

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<v Speaker 3>important that is in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be able to miss bats.

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<v Speaker 3>And they certainly can miss them when they need to,

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<v Speaker 3>but that has not been something that has driven this

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<v Speaker 3>pitching staff. They do a great job as a group,

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<v Speaker 3>they do a great job of keeping the ball off

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<v Speaker 3>the barrel of the bat, but they don't miss a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of bats like other teams mighty, and so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that you look at a big reason for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is really interesting too.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the Rays, they don't do anything by happenstance,

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<v Speaker 3>by chance, and so when you look at this pitching staff,

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't have those overpowering, blow you away guys,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in the starting rotation, they lean on the change out.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, the Rays used to change up a little

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<v Speaker 3>over eleven percent of the time as a staff. This

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<v Speaker 3>year they're up around twenty one percent. They've almost doubled

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<v Speaker 3>their usage. And I think since all this stuff has

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<v Speaker 3>been tracked by stat CAAT and all of that, they're

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<v Speaker 3>using the change up more as a staff than any

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<v Speaker 3>other team since it started being tracked like that. And

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<v Speaker 3>so that's and it's funny because Nick Martinez kind of

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<v Speaker 3>let the cat out of the bag earlier in the

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<v Speaker 3>season when they were asked about that because the change

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<v Speaker 3>up was playing such a big role. In fact, it

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<v Speaker 3>was this, if you throw a change up, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to throw it more if you don't throw a change up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to learn one and you're going to throw it.

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<v Speaker 3>Drew Rasmussen, Kevin Kelly, those two guys. Kevin Kelly has

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<v Speaker 3>taken his game to another level because now he's got

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<v Speaker 3>two seam, sweep and change up, and he uses his

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<v Speaker 3>change up as his second highest used pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>And Drew Rasmussen has had.

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<v Speaker 3>A ton of success with that change up, a pitch

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<v Speaker 3>that he threw twenty eight total times last year. So

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<v Speaker 3>of getting back to what Nick said, Nick was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as the league continues to search for velocity

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<v Speaker 3>and spin and hitters do nothing but train for velocity

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<v Speaker 3>and getting the bat out and for all the things,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna be anti vlow and we're going to pull

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<v Speaker 3>the string. And they have doubled their usage of that

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<v Speaker 3>pitch as a staff and it has worked wonders. But

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<v Speaker 3>going back to your point, it's not a big swing

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<v Speaker 3>and miss strikeout staff, and so in the postseason you

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of need that. And again it's not like these

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<v Speaker 3>guys can't go get it when they want to, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're more than conten to go out and try to

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<v Speaker 3>get a guy out and three pitches or fewer.

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<v Speaker 8>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way they're running the misdirection be a

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<v Speaker 1>great analysis on all of this. Great to catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the time and keep watching and enjoying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Love hearing you on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome boys. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>They are just bad for baseball. Cody Stavenhagen, Tiger Territory host,

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<v Speaker 1>then covers the Tigers for the Joining US right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They just did an episode on this topic, and AJ

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<v Speaker 1>has been having spirited back and forth conversations with Tigers

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<v Speaker 1>fans about this. Cody, great to have you on and

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<v Speaker 1>to fill everyone in. I didn't realize how big this

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<v Speaker 1>got in the Midwest. So let's talk through this and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can get into the nitty gritty of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are some people so upset with AJ saying how

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the best look to be right within a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff spot and trade away two of your five starters.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I don't know. I'd stay away from some of

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<v Speaker 8>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>On line.

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<v Speaker 8>People didn't like AJ's take. That's fine, And then I

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<v Speaker 8>don't think anyone saw when you kind of tried to

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<v Speaker 8>walk it back a little bit, right, And I just

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<v Speaker 8>don't think anyone paid any attention to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Cody, here's what I say. Here's you know what. I

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 5>probably said it wrongly. It's a bad precedent. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>about the Tigers. It wasn't about the and that's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of what I wanted people to understand. It's just a

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 5>bad precedent, right, And the Tigers did this a couple

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 5>of years ago in twenty four were they traded away

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<v Speaker 5>Flaherty and some others and they still win in the

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 5>playoffs and had a night run. So it's just a

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 5>bad precedent when you tell teams, hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>trade away a top five pitcher in baseball and trek school,

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<v Speaker 5>well wherever you want to rank them.

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<v Speaker 4>This year, he's still one of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Top five best, okay, and a guy who you drafted

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 5>one to one in case he mis. But then the

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 5>American League is so crappy that they still have a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to make it. My favorite part, though, is they're

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<v Speaker 5>running this in Chicago radio and people were saying, Oh,

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 5>AJ got the Tigers fired up. If it takes me

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<v Speaker 5>to get your team fired up when you have the

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<v Speaker 5>White Sox coming into town, then there's something wrong with

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<v Speaker 5>you as a team.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, I don't know how much that

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 8>made its way through the clubhouse. I'm gonna guess not

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 8>a ton. I don't think the Tigers are bad for baseball.

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 8>I think the expanded playoff is bad for baseball. The

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 8>Tigers are operating within the structure of a sport that

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<v Speaker 8>has made it a lot easier to get into the

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<v Speaker 8>playoffs and has created a lot more teams that enter

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<v Speaker 8>the trade deadline on the bubble. It's made the deadline

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 8>a little less exciting. There's less buying, there's less selling.

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<v Speaker 8>Their teams like the Tigers who said, Okay, we have

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 8>a guy in schoobl who we can get a lot

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 8>or we have to move them. We don't have to

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 8>trade away our whole team. And if there were only

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 8>two wild card spots, they might have been more incentivized

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 8>to trade away their whole team. I mean, they weren't

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 8>the only team that functioned like this. The Rangers were

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 8>interested in trading away Jacob de Ground but he used

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 8>as no trade clause, like this is how things go,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think this is what the expanded Playoff has created. Unfortunately,

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 8>there's money tied to it and TV deals tied to it,

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 8>so I don't think it's going away, but it has

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 8>created a structure where it's possible for teams to sell

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 8>and still be right in it. The Tigers also play

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 8>in a division that just doesn't have a clear front

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 8>running team. It probably should have been the Tigers, but

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 8>they underachieved so badly for the first half of this season.

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<v Speaker 8>Now now they can still win the division, and I

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 8>guess that will at least ease complaints about the expanded Playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's the team currently at?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How and I'm with you that definitely can cause some

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<v Speaker 1>of this where every team thinks they're, you know, in

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the fifty four percent range, everyone's favorite number. So where

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is this team currently at?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How much damage can they do here to try and

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>make a postseason spot? Right? And then even could they

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<v Speaker 1>surprise some people in October without schoogle in mice because

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>people are going to refall in love with Jackson Job

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<v Speaker 1>and Dre Anderson.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we'll see right, I mean, I think they are

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<v Speaker 8>a very real threat to make the playoffs. At the

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 8>time we're talking about this, they are the owners of

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 8>a wild card spot. They're playing their best baseball the year,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 8>and I think their rotation is for real. I think

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 8>Troy Melton is for real. Cater Montero has been very good.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 8>Jackson job has nasty stuff we're talking about from Bravaldez

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<v Speaker 8>is maybe their fourth best starting pitcher right now, and

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 8>although he's been kind of a letdown, he's still capable

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 8>of going in and giving you six or seven really

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 8>good innings any time he steps on the mound. The

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 8>lineup's been hot lately. There's been a big youth movement.

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<v Speaker 8>You're seeing guy Max Clark and Wardo Valencia. How you

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 8>Lee contribute. Riley Green just went to the IL, so

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 8>that could be pretty costly. We'll see if they can

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 8>stay hot. I think that's the one thing. If there's

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 8>a cool down coming, that could hurt them. And then

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 8>the bullpen's really interesting because you look at it and

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 8>they have the sixth best bullpen in the ra in baseball,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 8>but you still don't feel a lot of confidence when

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 8>you're navigating the seventh, eighth, ninth inning I think they

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 8>still have the second most blown saves in the American League.

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 8>There's some advanced metrics like when probability added that aren't

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 8>aren't favorable of this bullpen. You don't have a lot

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 8>of confidence. But yet they have managed to get out

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 8>and do enough to win a lot of games here

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<v Speaker 8>in recent weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Cody, I'm going full Homer here. You know

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 5>when they're hot, streak ends today because you know they're

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 5>playing They're playing.

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<v Speaker 4>The White Sox, so it's going to end today.

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's my thing.

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 5>Here's the other thing about the Tiger fans that they

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 5>were telling And I want your I want your opinion.

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 5>If I could be way off on this, and Kip,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 5>Kip and I have had this conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're a player, you play to win the World Series.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Your whole goal is to win the World Series.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 5>And when Tiger fans have been coming at me, fine,

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 5>bring it on, Tiger fans. I love Detroit. I actually

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 5>love the Tiger. You know this, Cody, I actually do.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 5>I love Hinch, I love Scott Harris. I love going

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 5>to Detroit. It's one of my favorite places, believe it

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 5>or not, to actually go. I've spent so much time there,

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 5>I know where to go. And I love Detroit, Okay,

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 5>I love the Shinola Hotel, and I love all that downtown,

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<v Speaker 5>the New area.

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<v Speaker 4>It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, But when you trade away Trek Scooble and Casey Mice,

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 5>and I know all the guys Melton and all these

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 5>guys job and Fromber and all these guys have been

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<v Speaker 5>really good. But do your chances of winning the World

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Series actually improve by trading them away? Or if you

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 5>kept them and you make the playoffs and you have

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 5>schoobl and Mice, would it be better? And Tiger fans

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 5>are like, We're so happy we got rid of schoobl

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 5>He's a cancer, mys was always hurt.

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 4>We're a better team. Now. Do you believe they're a

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<v Speaker 4>better team without those two if they get into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 8>No, they're not a better team without Trek's Scouoble, especially

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 8>in the postseason. For anyone who's like, oh, well, they

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 8>only threw ninety nine pitches in Game five, I don't know.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 8>Ninety nine pitches is a lot in today's game. Their

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 8>odds of winning the World Series went down the moment

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 8>they traded Trek Scooble, and the front office knows that,

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 8>and they made a calculated decision. I think they said, Okay,

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 8>we might not win the World Series this year, We're

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 8>still give it our best college try. But they hoped

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 8>trading him away improved their World Series odds for twenty

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 8>twenty seven and twenty twenty eight and twenty twenty nine.

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 8>That's the job of the front office is to balance

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 8>the short term and the long term. They may not

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 8>get everything right and that that was a hard decision

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 8>with Scooble, and I think if they would have played

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 8>even a little bit better, they wouldn't have traded him.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 8>But they ultimately viewed viewed it as it was probably

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 8>irresponsible to keep Schooble for what especially at the time

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.719
<v Speaker 8>and even still now, it was like an outside chance

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 8>of making a run, right, It would have been a

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 8>big gamble to sacrifice part of your future. They chose.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 8>They chose to take the return.

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<v Speaker 2>For the teacher.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna go Homer again here too, And it'd be

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 7>a real shame if Cleveland caught both those teams and

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 7>figured it back out instead of shooting themselves in the

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 7>foot a little bit. But I'm just going through the

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 7>injured list right now for you guys with Riley Green,

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 7>the hamstring, Outman, Carpenter, Verlaine Flarity, who is eligible to

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 7>come off their earliest and who do you want to

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 7>see come back? Who's going to give this team the

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 7>biggest jolt back? Where are they missing the most off

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 7>of this right now?

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure any of those guys

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 8>are like knocking on the door of a return. James

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 8>Outman's on the concussion, I l Jack Flaherty has been

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 8>like increasing his throwing, but to my knowledge, not yet

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 8>doing bullpens or anything like that. Riley Green is really

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 8>the big loss, and he just went on the IL

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 8>a couple days ago. We'll see. You know, it's a hammy.

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 8>They think it's mild. Sometimes those things linger. You don't

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 8>want that to become a thing where suddenly you're without

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 8>Riley Green into September. That could be scary because he's

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 8>still a huge part of this lineup. It'd be nice

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 8>to get Kerry Carpenter back too, because your lineup just

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 8>functions a little better when he's in there, and you

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 8>can do the pinch hit and you can make decisions

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 8>on the opposing manager hard, but he's got planar fasci itis.

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 8>That's kind of a weird injury that you also never

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 8>really know how long it's going to take. As of

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 8>earlier this week, he wasn't running yet, So I don't

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 8>think any of these guys are going to be back

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 8>like within the week. Oddly enough, this is like the

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 8>healthiest the Tigers have been all year, and they're still

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 8>without maybe two of their better hitters. And Riley Green

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 8>and carry Carpenter.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, by the way, don't mess with the fast okay, Cody,

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 5>because if you haven't never had it. I've had it free, yeah,

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 5>and I don't want it the other day. It sucks, man,

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 5>it absolutely sucks. You try different shoes, you try different everything,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 5>sleeping with boots on and all this different stuff, and

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 5>it's like nothing. Every time you think you fixed it,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 5>boom it pops up again. So don't be making fun

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<v Speaker 5>of Kerry Carboner for having Planner fasciiis.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, no way, don't. I don't mess with that stuff.

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 8>I haven't had it and I do not want it.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's awful. It's one of the worst things. Worth

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 4>worst injuries you can have because you can't ever fit.

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 4>It's like we never fixed, it never goes away. So

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't know. I digress.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to get into injuries because can't you

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 5>can't test anyone's playing Tallerance.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 4>He just never You never ever know where we're gonna go. Cody.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 5>What else in the offense? Torklesen, where's he at? I mean,

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 5>Dylan Dingler has been a stud. He's put himself probably

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 5>in the top two or three catchers in baseball at

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 5>the years he year he's had this year? What about

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 5>the offense? Hovey Bayaz has been quietly better? Right, So

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 5>where does the Tigers offense? If these guys don't come back,

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 5>where do they turn?

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 8>I would say Dylan Dingler has been the top one

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 8>catcher in baseball this year. He's been unbelievable. He has

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 8>cooled off a little bit, you know, like one for

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 8>his last twenty two, but he's having a phenomenal year.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 8>Torkleson's been really good lately, coming back since the All

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 8>Star Break. He's kind of changed his approach. He's taken

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 8>more singles. He only has like one holder in that time.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 8>But this is a guy with big natural power. I

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 8>don't think anyone should be worried about his home run power.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 8>He is suddenly looking like the most complete, the most

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 8>well rounded I've ever seeing him at the plate. He's

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 8>using the whole field a little more. He's still covering

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 8>the fastball, but he's saying curveballs. He's hitting off speed,

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 8>you know, for bass hits. You look at the launch

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 8>angle sweet spot. He ranks in the ninety ninth percentile,

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 8>which basically just means he's hitting a lot of line drives.

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 8>Like I said, using the whole field better than ever.

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 8>It could be pretty huge if he could continue to

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.959
<v Speaker 8>do anything remotely like this, because he's a hitter who's

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 8>been pretty boom or bust for most of his major

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 8>league career, and suddenly he's looking like that more well

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 8>rounded guy he was drafted to be. Kevin mcgonagall's just

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 8>a tear guys. Kevin McGonagall leads the American League in

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 8>war according to Baseball Reference. Like he is a rookie,

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 8>he is twenty one years old. Not enough people are

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 8>talking about that. He is one of those guys who

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 8>comes up and it feels like every time he steps

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 8>to the plate, He's going to hit the ball hard somewhere.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 8>Totally changes the complexion of the Tigers order and the

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 8>contributions they've been getting from young guys. Max Clark has

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 8>come up and held his own. This guy at Wardo Valencia,

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 8>most fans probably haven't heard him. He has a twelve

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 8>hundred ops through his first sixteen career games like he

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 8>can hit the ball a long way. How you lead,

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 8>and so it's become a younger lineup and we will see.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 8>I think the league is going to start adjusting. They

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 8>already have to lee to Clark to Valencia. Can those

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 8>guys hold their own once they start getting pitched a

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 8>little bit tougher. I think that's a big question to

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 8>watch for the next six weeks here now.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 7>As hitters, we're taught to put the ball in play.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 7>Good things happen when you put the ball in play.

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 7>No strikeout, shutout done by you guys. That is impressive.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 7>That means twenty seven guys are putting the ball in

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 7>play and nothing's happening from him. I didn't get to

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 7>watch the game, but I mean obviously followed along. What

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 7>was that like to see just where everybody's hitting it,

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 7>but nothing's coming from it.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it was pretty interesting. I mean, there was a

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 8>lot of weak context, so it didn't feel like complete luck.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 8>But then you look back, not only did the Tigers

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 8>not strike anyone out, They're pitching staff induced only two whiffs,

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 8>only two swings and misses the entire game. Cater Montero

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 8>got them. Both batters swung thirty seven times against them,

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 8>they only swung and miss twice. That's kind of a

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 8>staple of this Guardenans lineup. They don't swing and miss

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 8>a lot. They make it tough on you. I don't

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 8>think you could replicate that. I mean, Montero did a

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 8>good job being aggressive throwing strikes. Bopen came in and

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 8>did their job, Tyler holding in Kinley Jansen, But I

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 8>don't think that's the recipe you're really looking for. There's

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 8>a reason no one had done that in baseball since

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 8>twenty fourteen. It does require some pretty unreal badmitball luck.

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Cody.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 5>By the way, it's nice that you're talking about Kevin McGonagall,

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 5>but too bad he's not gonna be.

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Rookie of the Year.

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 5>It's fine so having a great year, though it's not

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 5>gonna be Rookie of the year.

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.879
<v Speaker 4>That's it. You know who is? It's fine, we all

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 4>know who's going to be the rookie the year.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 8>Look, Murray Comedy can hit the ball. A long wait

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 8>there respect for that guy. Like Kevin McGonagall leads baseball

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 8>in war at twenty one, Like, come on now, Hel, I.

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Know he Murk Comy's in the eighty Oh Scott, don't

0:38:59.560 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 4>you know?

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying McGonagall doesn't leave baseball in war. PCA does

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>as far as I know. Yeah, but markami is I

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>think way behind McGonagall in that category. And guess what,

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>aj he brings it up for good reason. Many of

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 1>his colleagues in the BBWAA vote with War in mind.

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It is a very critical stat is it, not, Cody.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 8>We may be at this rate, we may be going

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 8>back to the Miguel Cabrera Mike Trout debate, because who's

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 8>going to win the al the al MVP. We have

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 8>jord On Alvarez, who might win the triple crown, all right,

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 8>so pretty hard to knock that. But right now McGonagall

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 8>and Dingler are right up there in War. There there

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 8>will be a case. I think there will be at

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 8>least one Tiger getting some serious MVP votes.

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, top three for sure.

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 5>If jord On Alvarez doesn't win the MVP and you

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 5>win the Triple Crown and they make the postseason, there's

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 5>something wrong with all you BBWA people.

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.399
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, there's some there's some wrong. I love you guys,

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 5>but there's something wrong with y'all for sure. And by

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.760
<v Speaker 5>the way, Cooper Wallas has the same war as Kyle Schwarber,

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 5>just saying I saw that tweet last night, so that's

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 5>pretty pretty amazing that I don't know.

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Taylor Wall. Sorry, sorry, not Cooper Wall. Sorry Taylor Walls. Yeah,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 4>the same as the same war.

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 8>That really was going to be amazing because I was like,

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 8>I don't know who Cooper Walls is.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Apparently neither do I, so it's fine.

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 1>That is a crazy stat though, Cody, good stuff man,

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, and much more of course on the recent

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Territory episode, which I encourage everyone to check out.

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Also check out Cody's articles in The Athletic. But thank you, Cody.

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.439
<v Speaker 8>All right, thanks guys, appreciate it.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And here it is Tiger Territory QR code on the screen.

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