1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. All right, to 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: play or not to play? That's the question. Next. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: All right, good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Hey's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and you know what. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: now let me introduce my guy because I gotta ask him. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: A big time question. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: The guy who's on radio, TV, coaching, personnel, scouting. He 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: does it all. Mister Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck how are 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: you man? 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm great, I'm great. I can't complain. How's 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: everything with you? 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to get to you today because I 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: got to ask you. I guess you were there in 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: Jacksonville yesterday when Cam Little made that seventh yard field 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: They'll tell me about it. 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: Were you there? 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: Not only was I there, I was on the call. 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: So the holy smokes that you hear is yours, truly, 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: Fucky Brooks, who. 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Couldn't believe what was going on. 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: It is unbelievable to see someone attempt a field goal 23 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: from that distance because Andy, when you're sitting there, he's 24 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: kicking it from the other side of. 25 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: The field like normally when you get the midfield. 26 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: You talk about a long distance field goal, but to 27 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: kick it from the from the forty yard line like 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: your own forty yard line, to go the distance and 29 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 4: to nail it and not only barely squeak it through, 30 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: but to nail it with some distance. 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable kick. I couldn't believe what I 32 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: was saying. 33 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing is, I mean you had a 34 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: question why they were even going for a field goal 35 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: at that distance? 36 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, say, what's he doing? Why are they 37 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: calling that now? Right? 38 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 39 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: Because like the first thing that I thought about was injury, like, man, like, 40 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: what if is he gonna split a hamstring trying to 41 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: kick this from this far away? But give them credit, man, 42 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 4: they certainly knew where his distance was and how I 43 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: was going to play out, and he nailed it. 44 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: He absolutely nailed the kick. 45 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe. I mean, seventh of us when I 46 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: heard that, it was under do we have the call? 47 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: I want to hear Buckey on the call. Do we 48 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: have the call? Where's our where's our guys and markers there? 49 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: And obviously I got Patty, are you there? 50 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: Are you there? 51 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: Ld? 52 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: Do we have that call? 53 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 5: I'm here, Andy, what is it? 54 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Call? 55 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: You need it again? 56 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks called with the cam little seven yard field go. 57 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: I'd like to hear it. 58 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: I hate to put you on the spot like this, 59 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: but I didn't know if Bucket was on the call. 60 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: He was screaming in the back. I guess. 61 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Let me know when you have, Oh you got, just 62 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: let me know because we'll move on, because I want 63 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: to talk about preseason football with you because I figured 64 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: something out, buck I figured something out. I figured you know, 65 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: I watched the preseason game, but usually after the first quarter, 66 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: like forget it. I mean, you know, the starters aren't there. 67 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: Preseason football is very similar to the Canadian Football League, 68 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: in the USFL, in all those little leagues. Why because 69 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: you don't know who's playing, and no one cares. If 70 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: you don't know who's playing, it's not the game. I 71 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: used to think, Well, everybody loves football. No, they don't 72 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: love football. They love the big name players that play football. 73 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: That's why leagues like the CFL and the USFL they've 74 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: never in the United Football League, they've never made it because. 75 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: We don't know who these guys are. 76 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: And after the first quarter, and after the first series, 77 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: usually with the quarterbacks that I played an YM no 78 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: one cares anymore? 79 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: Am I right on that? 80 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I do believe there's some people who just 81 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 4: like football from a surface level in terms of, Hey, 82 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: I just want to see the stars. I want to 83 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: be entertained by the guys that are playing, and maybe 84 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: not appreciate some of the guys that are really given 85 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: their all to make the team. Some people will call 86 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: those guys that are participate in the preseason in the 87 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 4: second half the quote unquote scrubs. But I have an 88 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: affinity for those guys because I felt like I was 89 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: one of those guys at certain points in my career 90 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: just trying to make it. And if you understand how 91 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: hard it is to play the game, and then you 92 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: have an appreciation for guys who have to kind of 93 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: get it out the mud, earn it, as they would say, 94 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: you like the preseason because it is that one opportunity 95 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: for some of these guys to live out their dreams 96 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: because some of them may never play again, may never 97 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: suit up at the NFL level. Again, I appreciate that desperation, 98 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: that urgency that they play with to lay it all 99 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: on the line in front of everybody. 100 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's a different perspectives who played the game. 101 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: But Justin Tucker kicked the sixty sixty yard against the 102 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: Detroit Lions on September twenty sixth, twenty twenty one. That 103 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: game was played at four fields, that was indoors. Here's 104 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: the and I want to congratulate ours. We have the 105 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: best staff in the world. You know, I threw him 106 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: at the last minute. I wanted to hear this call, 107 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: and they got him. You know, Mark was there, he 108 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: got it for us, and obviously LD is there. So 109 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: let's take a listen to this Cam little seventy yard 110 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: field goal. 111 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Holy smokes, they gotta shot. You just kicked us seventy 112 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: yard here? 113 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Crazy? 114 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 6: I crazy? NFL record? That would be an NFL rapid in. 115 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: The first half. Holy smoked, that's unbelievable. 116 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm more impressive than the Bucky Brooks in the background 117 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: than the kick. Well that's what I you know, Bucket 118 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: Brooks right here on a call that probably went nationwide. 119 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure every market in the country had that call today. 120 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: So that's great, love. 121 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: I mean, seventy yards. Did anybody, I mean, did you 122 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: talk to ta Miller after the game, I mean, what 123 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: was it? 124 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: What was it? I think I didink a chance to 125 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: talk to Caam Little after the game. But the buzz 126 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 4: in the stadium, the buzz up in the press box 127 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: after it was done, the conversation with some team members 128 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 4: and team leaders about Cam Little knocking it, it's a 129 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: game changer. It's a game changer. Obviously for the moment. 130 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: It was a seventy yarder. It doesn't count in the 131 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: record books. But what it does do is it changes 132 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: some of the things that will exist with the Jaguars 133 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: as you're trying to plan out the season. Right, So 134 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: now you talk about the scoring zone and where you 135 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: have to reach certain parts of the field where you 136 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: have a reasonable chance to score points. Well, for most 137 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: teams it's you hit the thirty five yard line. That 138 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: puts you, like at a fifty two yard field goal. 139 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 4: So that's kind of where hey, we know we have 140 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: to get to the thirty five to have a chance 141 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: to get points. 142 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Well, now that opens it up. Maybe it's the forty. 143 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: Yard line for the Jaguars, And in a desperation situation, 144 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: you talk about avery, if we can just get the midfield, 145 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: Cam has a chance. So all of these things now 146 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: change the way that Liam Cohen and his staff will 147 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 4: go about plotting out how they can play games. And 148 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: for Cam little Man, you're talking about an opportunity to 149 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: be legendary. People will now be looking for him to 150 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: nail these long distance kicks. 151 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: It puts a little more pressure on him. 152 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: But the one thing I've seen from him over two 153 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 4: years of watching him grow, this dude loves the pressure 154 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 4: of the moment and it doesn't phase him. 155 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Obviously, by nailing at. 156 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: The seventy yard kick in a preseason game, He's certainly 157 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: not phased by taking on a huge challenges. 158 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: What an offensive weapon. And I can't wait to see 159 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: him because they come to Cincinnati this year the second game, 160 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: and this is the first home game for the Bengals 161 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: this year. But while we're on Jacksonville right now, you know, 162 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: give me a little perspective on Travis Hunter. I know 163 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: he played both ways here, something like ten offensive snaps 164 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: and five defensive snaps. Give me a little perspective of 165 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: what the deal is with Travis Hunter. 166 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they look at much way to debut Everersoner. 167 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 4: Everyone wanted to see how this was going to work 168 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: out stand out two way player in college who play 169 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: eighty five percentage of snaps at the collegiate level, and 170 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: people wanted to see if he could continue to do that. 171 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: He played ten snaps on offense. He had a couple 172 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: of receptions. On defense, he played about five or six, 173 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: got in the way, had some solid coverage, came up, 174 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: missed the tackle, but he was active and involved. The 175 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: bigger thing that the Jags wanted to see is how 176 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: could we handle the mechanics of it all when he 177 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: goes in the game, when he's out the game, which 178 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: coaches are talking to him. Daved signed a coach to 179 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: kind of be with him throughout the game to kind 180 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: of monitor his activity. They have all the data, the 181 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: GPS stuff to kind of see how many snaps, the 182 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: fatigue level and those things. 183 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: It's a very sophisticated operation to really help someone be 184 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: a two way player. 185 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: I never thought that this much would go into it, 186 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: but the Jaguars are trying to plan it out, trying 187 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: to give him the best chance to succeed. 188 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: That's here you go, okay with about preseason now, and 189 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: you hit it right on the head because it's a 190 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: it's a situation to evaluate talent. You know, and you 191 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: called yourself a scrub. Now, look, you played in the 192 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: league for five years, so get. 193 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: That out of I wouldn't call myself us grub. I 194 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: wouldn't call it any players grub. I'm saying on the 195 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: outside looking in, there are people who I know when 196 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: they look at the Presets game, like why am I 197 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: watching the scrubs play these guys or whatever? And I'm 198 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: just saying, like, to me, there's a level of respect 199 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: that I have to pay to those guys, because man, 200 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: it's such a hard deal to make a team. 201 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, I mean, and I keep 202 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: on hearing media people say, well, the ones are going 203 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: against the twos, and I laugh when I hear that. 204 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: These guys are professionals. These guys are NFL players. 205 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: You know. 206 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: I watched that Bengal game on Thursday night against the Eagles, 207 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: and believe me, they are number two quarterback. I was 208 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: a McKee. I think he kind of m carved them up. 209 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: I don't care if he's going against ones or twos. 210 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: He carved up that Bengals defense. Joe Borrow was tremendous. 211 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: He was nine to ten when he came in there missed. 212 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: His first throw was overthrowing to Higgins, but after that 213 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: he was perfect. And then if they took him out, 214 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: that was the end of Joe Borrow two deals and 215 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: he scored twice. But the point is this, their defense 216 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: looked the same as last year. You can't tell me 217 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: that Al Golden's gonna change it if you don't have 218 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: the personnel. A coach is only as good as his personnel. 219 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: I don't care what system he puts in there. And 220 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: the Big McKee ate him up. He carved them up 221 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: defensively on the offensive board and the offense on the ball. 222 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: It was terrible, it really was. I didn't see any 223 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: difference defensively in that first game. Maybe it doesn't mean 224 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: anything it's the first game, but I didn't see a 225 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: difference from a year ago. 226 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, just look. It's a difficult situation. 227 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: They're trying to fix all these things, but for the 228 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: majority of camp they haven't had their best well, two 229 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: guys that they're expecting to be their best pass rushers 230 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: first and Trey Hendrickson, who is dealing with the whole 231 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: in and then Shamar Stewart, who was dealing with some 232 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: contract language that he had to get worked out before 233 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: he would show up. That put them behind the eight ball. 234 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: When it comes to it. In a passing league, you 235 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: have to have pass rushers, and right now the Cincinnati 236 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 4: Bengals are trying to figure out how to generate a 237 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: pass rush to make their defense more efficient and effective. 238 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: Until they get that part. 239 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: Worked out, and some of that it's going to take 240 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: timing and reps and Al Golden knowing who does what will, 241 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: They're gonna struggle. But the good thing if I'm a 242 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: Bengals fan to see the first team offense go up 243 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: and down the field the way that they did, Jamar 244 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,359 Speaker 4: Chase having success, Joe Burrow slicing and dicing the Philadelphia 245 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: defense up. It's not exactly what you want to see 246 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 4: from a total team perspective, but offensively, man, they are 247 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: already in strit and that could help them get off 248 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: to a faster start than we've seen the last few years. 249 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: All Right, saying this one game, I don't think it 250 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: means much, but we'll see what happens. 251 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: Is we move on. 252 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: They play Washington a week from Monday, so we move on. 253 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: And I said, coming into the segment of day to 254 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: play or not to play? It's about Friday night, the 255 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: preseason game between the Lions and the Falcons. Okay, and 256 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: the defensive back on the Lions, Maurice Norris, suffered an 257 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: injury on the play. He didn't get up after attempting 258 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: to make a tackle, and there was a replay and 259 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: it showed that his head looked like it snapped back 260 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: as it hit the leg of the Falcons running back. 261 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: I think it was Nathan Carter. They took them out 262 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: in an ambulance and that was the end of the game. 263 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: With about six minutes to go, they ran out the clock. 264 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: Question I have before I get into the injuries and 265 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: whether she play or not. If this was a regular 266 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: season game, they would continue. They wouldn't have stopped the game. 267 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: Am I right about that? 268 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: No? 269 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: I mean I think they would have continued. They wouldn't 270 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: have stopped the game. They would have tried to figure 271 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: out a way to make it right. It's a you know, 272 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: it's such a crazy situation to see it play out 273 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: the way that they played out, But under normal circumstances, 274 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: they would have found a way to continue to play 275 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: the game. 276 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So the question is to play or not to 277 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: play in preseason. 278 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: I get it. 279 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: Why did I have preseason evaluate talent and for owners 280 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: to make money on the deal? You know they're selling 281 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: tickets all right, And should they have a preseason or not? 282 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. And here's the question I have. 283 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: Colleges don't have preseason to get right into it, right, 284 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: and the pros have preseason. It's a money grand for 285 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: owners and it's an evaluation situation for coaches. 286 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: Is that basically what it's all about. 287 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I can say both things are true, 288 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 4: but I do believe you need to have the preseason. 289 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 4: You need to have the preseason to get everybody ready 290 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 4: to play. And even though colleges do it, I think 291 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: college football would be better off if they had a 292 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: way to scrimmage or host a jamboree to allow coaches 293 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: kind of understand who they have and what they're working 294 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: with going into the season. College football is such a 295 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: unique game because you spend far more time training than 296 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: you actually do playing and performing, and you don't really 297 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: know your team until after you see them play three 298 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: or four or five times, and then you can take 299 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: their identity and kind of match the schemes to the 300 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: identity of the team that you have in the NFL 301 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: the preseason, you know, because there's such a fear of injury. 302 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: The preseason gives your chance to do that to a point. 303 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: But I do think it's necessary. Even though we're seeing 304 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: more teams opt to keep their starters on the sideline, 305 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: I think it is unnecessary. Evil for the evaluation part 306 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 4: of it, more so than the money making part. It 307 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: was seeing the ownership take advantage. 308 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 2: Of It's amazing because yesterday the Vikings are playing the 309 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver Rondell Moore. He had a pretty significant injury 310 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: to his left knee against the Texans, so who knows 311 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: what's going to happen with him. And then you hear 312 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: the Bears coach Ben Johnson on Caleb Williams today they're 313 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: playing the Dolphins, and he says, Caleb Williams is not 314 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: going to play. You think this guy needs some work, 315 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: but I guess they're fearful of that. 316 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: Let's hear what the coach has to say. Go ahead, coach. 317 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 7: The thought here is we are there's gon be a 318 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 7: number of guys that aren't playing in this game. I 319 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 7: haven't even told the team this yet, but there's gonna 320 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 7: a number of guys that aren't playing in the game, 321 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 7: so we're gonna get great work in the joint practice. 322 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 7: We have a number of things scheduled around the game 323 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 7: for those guys that aren't playing, whether it's the day 324 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 7: before or the day after, where we're. 325 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: Actually gonna end up getting more reps. 326 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 7: Them than they would have had we played them week 327 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 7: one in this game. 328 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: So I'm actually really excited about that. 329 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 7: I think I think the numbers as they stand right now, 330 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 7: subject to change, are probably nine guys on offense, nine 331 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 7: guys on defense that. 332 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Won't be playing. Is number eighteen. Part of that he's 333 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: one of those. 334 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, That was the head coach of the Chicago Bears, 335 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: first year coach Ben Johnson on the Hodge and John's podcast. 336 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: And look, I guess you could toss the ball up 337 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: in the air and wherever it lands, that's what you're 338 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: gonna do. Do you play? Do you not play? I don't know. 339 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: You know, Zach Taylor, the coach at the Bengals, has 340 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: been like one in five his last opening days, and 341 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: he wants to get up to a fast start. So 342 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: do you get up to a fair start by putting 343 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: your starters in it. 344 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: Does it help? Is it a big deal? 345 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 346 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: There are some coaches that have been very successful that 347 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: don't play their daughters. I think that Andy Reid is 348 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: a guy that likes to play his starughters. We've seen that, okay, 349 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: But there are some coaches that don't do it, and 350 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: some coaches are successful bite by not playing their daughters. 351 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: What is the the answer to that. 352 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: I think it depends and a lot of it depends 353 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: on joint practices, which is what Ben Johnson was. 354 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Alluding to when it comes to the reps. 355 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: The reason why you would want to play your starters 356 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: in a joint practice situation as opposed to a preseason game. 357 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: You can control a lot of the variables when it 358 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: comes to injury situation, particularly with the quarterback. And a 359 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: joint practice, what you get is the intensity of a 360 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: preseason game, but the controlled environment of a quick whistle 361 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: or a forbidding the opponents from hitting your quarterback. For 362 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: the quarterback, he gets all of the advantages of the work, 363 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: the rhythm, the flow, the efficiency, all of that stuff 364 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: that you want to build without having to take the 365 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: shots in those things. That's why teams like it. So 366 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: you get all of the benefits of the preseason game 367 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: while minimizing some of the risks. For the other part 368 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: of it is you now get a chance to play 369 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: your young players the entire preseason game. So you get 370 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: a chance to see your young players, your guys that 371 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: are on the fringes, you get a chance to see 372 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: them play the entire game. That puts them in more 373 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: what we call real game like situations, understanding how to 374 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: execute a two minute drill, third down special teams. Oh, 375 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: I got to go from running down on a kickoff 376 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: to now playing eight snaps of defense to now being 377 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: on punt return. 378 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: You get all of that work in a game. 379 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: And so it's valuable when you can eliminate the starters 380 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: from the situation because they got their work done in 381 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: joint practices. To give to guys that were truly evaluating 382 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: whether they are on the team or not, you give 383 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: them a real opportunity to be seen and looked at, 384 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: not only by your team, but by everybody else. 385 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: So that's some of the benefits of it. 386 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: Well, I hear you saying, Okay, I want to go 387 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: back now to another possible injury here when the Indianapolis 388 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: Colts were playing the Baltimore Ravens and their opener, Anthony 389 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: Richardson was he was hit pretty hard on the small 390 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: finger on his throwing hand. Looked like he dislocated it, 391 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: whatever it may be. And honestly, from what I've heard 392 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: from various people, they said it was only a five 393 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: man front. It was a base defense at Baltimore through 394 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: and it should never have happened. Okay, But a guy 395 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: like Anthony Richardson, who was going to be number one, 396 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: you would think he doesn't have the opportunity. He can't 397 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: sit because if he sits, Daniel Jones steals his spot. 398 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones will be the number one guy. So you 399 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: know your daned. If you do, you're daned. If you don't, 400 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: what are the coaches do? And honestly, I think that 401 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: he should have it should have been blocked. I mean, 402 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: he never should have been hit. I mean, because you 403 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: know as well as anybody else to say a base defense, 404 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: it was nothing complicated. He should have recognized that defense 405 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: that was coming after him, right, Uh. 406 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, there's definitely something to like putting 407 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: the owners on him to recognize what's happening, to know 408 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: where his hots are and to get the ball out 409 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: when you're facing auplit situation. He didn't do that, but 410 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: I think it speaks to a bigger issue and one 411 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: of the reasons why Daniel Jones is there. Anthony Richardson, 412 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: as the franchise quarterback must be available and the best 413 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 4: franchise quarterbacks are available for their team each week. He's 414 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: had a spate of bad luck when it comes to injuries, 415 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: but going all the way back to high school and 416 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: college and those things, he has been injury prone. 417 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Nothing. 418 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: Maybe he can do your check and see if his 419 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: preparation and process is in need of work, but he 420 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: can't be available. And for your head coach and for 421 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: the organization, you have to trust that your QB one 422 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: is going to be there for you each and every week, 423 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: and right now he hasn't proven that he can do that. 424 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't expect Daniel Jones to be the starting 425 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: quarterback for the end of Lipis Coast when they kick 426 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: it off in September. 427 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Wow, how do you like that? All Right? 428 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: We do have some good news regarding the injury front 429 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: for some player, and we'll get to that momentarily. 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Bucky, you mentioned 466 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: the fact that. 467 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: They mean the into squad scrimmages may be better off 468 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 3: than actually playing in the preseason games. Whoever it may be. 469 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: But there is good news by way of injury because 470 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: because of the injury situation in Cleveland with the quarterbacks, 471 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: she'd do a say, there's got his chance throws two 472 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: touchdowns in the Browns thirty ten win over Carolina the 473 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: other night, and I got to ask the question, and 474 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: we'll ask the coach in a second, but I asked 475 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks first, what asaki does that mean? Does he 476 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: move up on the depth shot? What happens now? 477 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: Look, I think he certainly earns more reps and more opportunities. 478 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything any immediacy in terms of him 479 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 4: competing for the starting job. But he certainly showed the 480 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: coaches and his teammates that he could be an effective 481 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: player at the NFL level. What that means is when 482 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: you reconvene and the coaches are sitting there and we're 483 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: beginning to talk about the depth chart and the reps. 484 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: A Schuder did a solid job in the preseason game. 485 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: Maybe we give him a look again versus Philadelphia this week. 486 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: Maybe we give him reps against their ones or maybe 487 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: they're twos, to kind of see how he's progressing. But 488 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you earn your opportunities 489 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: by the way that you take advantage of the little 490 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: opportunities that you get. Because he had an opportunity, he 491 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: had a chance to play and start and was fairly effective. 492 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 4: He now will get another chance to show the people 493 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: what he can do. 494 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: That sounds great. 495 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: Now let's ask the coach, coach Kevin Stefanskie that Browns, 496 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: what do you think what's going on with shell door. 497 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're really just focused on developing our players. We're 498 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: in evaluation mode. 499 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: I'm pleasing with where the guys are, but I'm not 500 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: diving into a quarterback competition. 501 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, it is a quarterback competition, coach, right, is it, Bucket? 502 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: It is a quarterback competition. Now, Joe Flacco is going 503 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback. I gotta believe that he's 504 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: got the gig. Right, he's the starter. But number two, 505 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: I think it's up for grabs and it could be 506 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: your door. And he just got You know, Flacco was 507 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: forty years old. He could trip down the flight of steps, right, 508 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean, come on really? 509 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 510 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: So the situation is that, like you want to go 511 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 4: into the preseason with a plan, and the plan coming 512 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 4: out of the preseason like, based on the way everything 513 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: was lined up, did Joe Flack would be the starting quarterback? However, 514 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: things can change and it still is a little fluid 515 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: based on the performance of people. We all every team 516 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: in the league goes into the preseason thinking that things 517 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 4: will play out one way, and then you start playing 518 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: the games and either through performance or injury, the depth 519 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: chart changes. It's unfortunate that Kenny Picking and Dylan Gabriel 520 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: got hurt, but they gave Shirduor Sanders an opportunity. And 521 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: because they gave him an opportunity and he took advantage 522 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 4: of it. Now that Trio may have to reshuffle the 523 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 4: deck when it comes to the pecking order. There's still 524 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: time and nothing has to be finalized. But so far, 525 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 4: so good for sure Derrick Sanders. Now the trick in 526 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 4: the National Football League is you did it once, can 527 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: you do it again? If you can do it again, 528 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: then you see a level of consistency. But that's where 529 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: the league is and that's how they go. And so 530 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: Kevin Stevanski was like, hey, solid performance, I need you 531 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: to work on these things. When you get your second 532 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: chance to playing, they see if you can make the 533 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: corrections from the first game. 534 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: Okay, now, now let's let's get into something that's kind 535 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: of serious and only you could talk about it because 536 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: you played the game. Football players like yourself have long 537 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: had a pick me up available on the sidelines in 538 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: times of need. Well, I mean by that it is 539 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: smelling salts and a single whiff will provide an instant jolt. 540 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna ask you, have you ever 541 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: used smelling salts on the sideline when you played? 542 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, various times, like like like in college, maybe occasionally 543 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 4: in the pros. Never really was my jam like consistently, 544 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 4: but every now and dan you would do it. And 545 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: a lot of times it's peer press because everyone else 546 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: do it, so you just kind of try it, but 547 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: it it. 548 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Opens you up. 549 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 4: But I would say it's the equivalent of when you're 550 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: cleaning your house and ammonia is open and you open 551 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: up the top and you catch a whiff of it. 552 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: That's kind of the same feeling that you have with 553 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: that is the same feeling that you have. 554 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: When you when you sniff the smelling sauce. 555 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So the NFL this week was trying to get 556 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: them out of the game. They thought that that might 557 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: mask concussions, which maybe it was. 558 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, but now all of. 559 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: Us, I guess the players association if you bring your 560 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: own whatever that means, it's okay, you could you could 561 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: get the smelling smells back of the side. What do 562 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: you mean bring your own. I mean that that would 563 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: be worse. But people are going to bring everything but 564 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: smelling salts. Now, how are you going to check on 565 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: what a player brings to a game that I don't understand? 566 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I don't know how you check it. 567 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: But in bringing their own, what the NFL is trying 568 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: to do is kind of absolve themselves from the liability 569 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: of it. There is something that's weird about it. It's 570 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: not a healthy thing to do. Andy, I just told you, like, 571 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: it's the equivalent of sniffing ammonia. I don't think you 572 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: would advise any of your closest friends to spend most 573 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: of their time sniffing ammonia. There has to be some 574 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 4: long term consequences and detrimental effects to it with players. 575 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: The NFL, remember has doubted itself as a league that 576 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: really promotes health and safety. 577 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, if you're promoting that, you probably don't. 578 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: Want to encourage players to participate in sniffing of smelling sauce. 579 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: That's really where it comes down to, because if they 580 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: can link down the line long term consequences and side 581 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: effects health side effects from your sniffing of smelling sauce 582 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: on the sideline that was sponsored by the NFL or 583 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: encouraged or promoted by the NFL. Yeah, like it probably 584 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 4: makes them liable in some way, shape or form to 585 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 4: some litigation down the road. 586 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: And really it's not just football, but because smelling sauce 587 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: have long been popular. I gotta believe in sports that 588 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: leaves athletes woozy if they get hitting the head, football, boxing, rugby, hockey, 589 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: and the last week, I think the league's decision came 590 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: after the FDA and Food and Drug Association administration they 591 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: want consumers against inhaling products quote marketed to promote alertness 592 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: and boost energy, and issued wanting letters to numerous companies 593 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: because they have wote have not demonstrated these products to 594 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: be safe or effective for their intended use. So if 595 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: they're not safe or or you to be used effectively, 596 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: you know, I guess to League one to them out. 597 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: But it's okay for individuals to bring their own if 598 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: it's not safe for the for the club to to 599 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: have them use on the sidelines, why would it be 600 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: safe for a player to bring his own. That doesn't 601 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: make any sense at all. 602 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, no, it definitely doesn't make sense. And 603 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: you don't want to promote in those things. But it 604 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: was such a I guess a stir created by George 605 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: Kittle and others about the band the banning of smelling sauce, 606 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: that I feel like they just kind of relented. 607 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: They cave at the last minute. 608 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: You know, I certainly wouldn't encourage young people to engage 609 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: in it. 610 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: I guess they're saying that. 611 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: If you're an adult, you're you're smart enough you can 612 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 4: make a solid decision. 613 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: But we'll see. 614 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you mention George Kittle. I read a 615 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: little piece about him about the concern that he had 616 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: because he said, George Kittle, the tight end from the 617 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, the first one he went on your 618 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: NFL network during training camp, he went crazy. He says 619 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: he uses them before every drive, Before every drive, he 620 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: uses smelling salts. And then he says, quote, I've been 621 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: distraught all day. We've got to figure out a middle 622 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 2: ground there. I guess the league now has figured out 623 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: a middle ground because the day after that memo that 624 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: was set by the NFL to the teams, the NFL 625 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: Players Association, they fought back. They wrote in their own 626 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: memo that they're not prohibited from using smelling salts as 627 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: long as they bring the substances themselves. The substances. So 628 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: maybe you could help me out here. Is there more 629 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: than one kind of smelling salt that says substances. It's 630 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: not one main smelling salt. There's different kinds. I guess, yeah, 631 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: I guess. 632 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: Look, I can't see there and say that I am 633 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: the smelling sauce expert, but I would anticipate that they're 634 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: a few different ones that people can participate in, that 635 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: they can find and use and get what out of it, 636 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: whatever it is. 637 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: That they need look at. I won't say it's been overblown. 638 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: I know there's some of the stuff that that people use, 639 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: and I see the package sometimes when I'm on the 640 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: field doing sideline duties. I've seen the packets kind of 641 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: laying around where guys have taken it right before they 642 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: run onto the field. But look, I think it's more 643 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: myth in urban legend than recommended practice. And sometimes things 644 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: are in the game just because the legacy of it all. 645 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: And that's what I feel like the deal is with 646 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: smelling sauce. 647 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't, you know, see many smelling salt 648 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: incidences in the NFL. But I do remember watching boxing 649 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: and when a guy kind of got a little dizzy 650 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: and moozy, they put something under his nose. I assume that, right, 651 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean that they wake up back up again, right, 652 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: that's what it was. 653 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean that that is what 654 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: it is, and they bring that back. But even then, 655 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 4: if you think about it, Andy, that that probably the 656 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: way to go about it. 657 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Right, somebody's knocked out. 658 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: Let's give them something there right, temporarily impairs them. So 659 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: I understand from a medical standpoint why the league wouldn't 660 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: want it in. And I understand the findness that players 661 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: have from something that they practiced for a long time 662 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: has been a part of their game day traditions. 663 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, I was really interested in this whole situation, 664 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: what it's all about. 665 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: So I did it. I had some free times. 666 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: I went back to there some research on it, way 667 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: back to the thirteenth century, And you were right on 668 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: when you said this. Who was Ammonia was the active 669 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: ingredient in spelling souls. It was used by doctors to 670 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: help wake up patients who had fainted, and today ammonia 671 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: is most commonly used in fertilizer, refrigerants, and household cleaners 672 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: as you mentioned. Okay, but Terry Bradshaw has stated for 673 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: years that players do this all the time when they 674 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: get their bell wrong. But for a league that's so 675 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: owardly concerned about player's safety, it was a bad look. 676 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: And I agree. I mean, they talk about concussions and 677 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: ct whatever it might be. 678 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: But and now all of a sudden they want this. 679 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm just it's not I don't know, because smelling souls 680 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: give plays a full sense of alertness after a potential concussion. 681 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: So you could have a concussion, give a guys smelling souls. 682 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: He says, he's okay, he's not usy, you're loose again, 683 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: and it goes back in the game. But he's playing 684 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: with a concussion, right, Yeah, Like. 685 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: You don't you don't want that, and you don't want 686 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: anything to mask it. You're ultimately the league is ultimately 687 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: trying to protect. 688 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: The players, right. 689 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: And it's a weird thing because in a gladiator sport 690 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: where we are bloodthirsty and we enjoy the violence, like, 691 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: there's this element where you're trying to protect them players 692 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: against themselves. 693 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: This is part of that initiative. 694 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: To protect the players against themselves to let them know 695 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: that it's probably an unhealthy practice to go about things 696 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 4: in this manner. And look, I applaud the lead for 697 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: trying to do it, but I don't know why they 698 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: relent it. After a little noise, players would have eventually 699 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: adapted and adjusted. To me, maybe some week leadership when 700 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 4: you go back on some of those things. 701 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: You know. 702 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: My last question on this, because maybe we're staying on 703 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: there still a little too long. But my question on 704 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: this player. 705 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: Gets his bell wrung, he gets hit, maybe head on 706 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: the helmet to helmet, do they usually take them right 707 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: under the tent? Don't they do that to see if 708 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: in fact he has a concussion protocol? But are you 709 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: telling me that if a guy gets hit head to head, 710 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: helmet to helmet, don't give them a little smelling soulce 711 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: forget about going under the ten, go right back in 712 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: the game. 713 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 714 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: I've never seen that. And if you're alluding to. 715 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: What Terry Bredshaw was saying, like, I mean, that's fifty 716 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: years ago, the seventies when he played with the Steelers. 717 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 4: Like the NFL doesn't operate like that. There's a different 718 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: level of protocol. I can tell you the only time 719 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 4: I've ever really seen smelling sauce shoes are in two instances. One, 720 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: it's more like college in the weight room when there's 721 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 4: a max out day, when guys are trying to get 722 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: pumped up, they may use smelling sauce in various forms 723 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: to kind of get pumped up and psyched up to 724 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 4: attack an enormous wait. And then the second time, I 725 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: would be right before the game when people are about 726 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 4: to run out, before you're about to run out and 727 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: engage in that first contact or whatever to prepare your 728 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: mind your body for being the gladiator in the arena. 729 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: I've seen him with and engage in that. 730 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: Outside of that, I haven't seen it used much after 731 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: the game kicks off. So I mean, that's my take 732 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: from it or whatever. So I feel like there's there's 733 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: a lot of conversation about it, but I don't think 734 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: the participation. 735 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: Kind of warrants the attention. 736 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: But George Kittle created that when he jumped on the network, 737 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: And let's be honest, when it comes to Kittle, Kittle 738 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: is more WWE wrestler persona and all of that stuff. 739 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: All of that comes with it. 740 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: So he certainly would engage and kind of be the 741 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: poster boy for it. But I can't say the overwhelming 742 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: majority of the league is engaging in it. 743 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, he opened up the 744 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Pandora's box because right now, when forty nine games are 745 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: on TV, as soon as he comes out on the sidelines, 746 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: the camera will be on them to see if, in 747 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: fact he's sniffing. 748 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 4: Well, I've seen him, like, I've seen video clips of 749 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 4: him sniffing it before he goes on the field or whatever. 750 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 4: But I'm telling you a lot of that stuff is there, theatrics, 751 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 4: right Like, there are a lot of things that we 752 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 4: do to try and get yourself. 753 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: In superhero mode. 754 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: And for him, the routine of stiffing, smelling sauce and 755 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: going through that is a part of his thing. I 756 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 4: won't call it a stick, but everybody has the thing 757 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: that gets them ready to play, and for Kiddo, smell 758 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: a sauce is a part of it. 759 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: All right, Glad to hear that. All right, He's Bucket 760 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Furman. And by the way, this is 761 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. You could stream this show and all 762 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: about Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven 763 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox 764 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: Sports Radio in the app to stream us live. 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Catch 773 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and 774 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. 775 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Al rights. 776 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: Bucky coming right up. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's 777 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 2: Bucky Broke and Andy from it. About twelve minutes before 778 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: the top of the hour, and we're live from the 779 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studio. So the two little ask Bucky 780 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: LD you got one right, baby? 781 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 782 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 10: I got one for us guys, And it's of course 783 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 10: NFL preseason type one. 784 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 5: So I got one for his buck. 785 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 10: So with yesterday, you know, preseason all right, we're in 786 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 10: the middle of it. It's great, we're back. With that said, 787 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 10: I'm a Viking fan and a Seahawk fan, which we 788 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 10: can go to that another time, but this is Viking related. 789 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 10: So JJ mccarth he obviously played for a lot. I 790 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 10: want to say about twelve or thirteen plays. It was 791 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 10: one series or so. My question to you is, should 792 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 10: he have not gotten, you know, maybe another series or 793 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 10: so in Was it a little you know, was a 794 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 10: little short for him? 795 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 5: Would you wanted more? Because I personally kind of want 796 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 5: to see more of them? 797 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 4: Uh No, I mean I think a lot of it 798 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 4: depends on how Kevin O'Connell and the staff feels about 799 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 4: his progress throughout. And sometimes that first thing is not 800 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 4: just about the quarterback playing is who is he playing with? 801 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: And you don't want J. J. McCarthy playing with the 802 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: number two offensive line, So there could be multiple. 803 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 4: Things that play as to why his appearance was shorter 804 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 4: than some would have hoped. 805 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: All right, did he satisfy you with that answer? 806 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: He did? 807 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 5: Actually, that's valid. 808 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I got one. Savan Ahmed Colt sworning back. He's 809 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: going to miss the entire season. He suffered an ankle 810 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 2: injury in practice. He went down during a hip drop 811 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: tackle from safety Trey Washington. Now the NFL banded hip 812 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: hop hip drop tackles during the twenty twenty fourth season 813 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: due to injuries. I want to know, as so everybody else, 814 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: I would think, what exactly is a hip drop tackle? 815 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: It's really like, it's really hard. 816 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 4: But if you can imagine someone grabbing the back of 817 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: your collar and just basically going dead leg on you, 818 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 4: where they just kind of grab you and fall back 819 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 4: hoping to pull you down, and it's just such an 820 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: awkward angle that it puts a lot of undue stress 821 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 4: on your lower extremities, which is why you see ankles. 822 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: And knees and breaks and all that. 823 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's something that's not necessarily intentionally done, 824 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 4: but in a league where you're trying to get people 825 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 4: down by enemies necessary, it's become a way that people 826 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 4: try and get people down when they're chasing from behind. 827 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm confused, why would his teammate Trey Washington 828 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: in practice give him a hip drop tackle. 829 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 4: Because they're a live drill and you're being evaluated on 830 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 4: their everything and you're trying to make a tackle and 831 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 4: it's not ideal and it's not something that you always 832 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: can control. But unfortunately he kind of got tangled up 833 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: and execute a maneuver that is banned in the league. 834 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: All right, we move on a wide receiver. Ron Dell 835 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: Moore injured his right knee yesterday against the Texans. He's 836 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 2: a Vikings wide receiver. Is this a case where coaches 837 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: may second guess themselves, say, look, I'm keeping my starters 838 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: out period, that's it because this guy is a big 839 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 2: part of their offense and he's going to be gone 840 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: and we're seeing guys dropping like flies. Now, it happens 841 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: all the time. I think if I'm a coach, I 842 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: roll the dice and I'm not playing my guys. I'm 843 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 2: not playing my starter. It's a good, better and different. 844 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: Even if it takes a game or two to get 845 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: the rust off, it's not worth it to lose someone 846 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: for the season. 847 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there are a lot of people that 848 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 4: believe in that, Like the number one thing that you 849 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: want to do is you want to get to the 850 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 4: starting line with all of you guys. Now, Others believe 851 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 4: that the only way you can get people ready is 852 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 4: you got a spar you got to have some combat, 853 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: some combat, you got to get to it. 854 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: In those things. 855 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 4: Both approaches that produce Super Bowl champs. It's a matter 856 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: of what do you feel strongly about. Would you rather 857 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 4: have your guys at the starting line in season one 858 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: and then play from there, or do you want to 859 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 4: fully get him ready and feel like they are peaking 860 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: as we get into the season. 861 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: Benzelwi, I'm glad you mentioned that. 862 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 2: I really am, because I'm going to roll into another 863 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: question here because, as I mentioned, the cincin II Bengals 864 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: in the last five years, they're one and four in 865 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: opening games, and their coach, Zach Taylor has limited his 866 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: starters in those games. Now, all of a sudden, he 867 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: says he wants to get up to a quick start, 868 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: so he's going to play the start as more. I 869 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: won't know how does that make a difference, because if 870 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: he got bad defense, which he does, you know, playing 871 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: the starters or not is not going to make a difference. 872 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: I just don't think that makes it. Joe Burrow is 873 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: going to be good if he plays or not. He 874 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 2: didn't play last year a lot in the preseason, had 875 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 2: a tremendous season all right now he's going to play. 876 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: The only thing it could happen right now is n't 877 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 2: getting hurt. I don't what's the difference. There's no difference. 878 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: There is a difference in terms of rhythm. 879 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 4: You can talk about Cincinnati and Joe Burrow playing well 880 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 4: last year's dear offense, but remember the first couple of 881 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 4: games they got up to slow starts. And the league 882 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 4: is so much about rhythm and flow, particularly at quarterback, 883 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 4: and he wants to get in the rhythm. He wants 884 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: to get some game reps against competition so that they 885 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 4: can hit the ground running. 886 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: I understand it. 887 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 4: Man, franchise quarterback, you got to listen to what he says. 888 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,479 Speaker 4: He needs to get ready to play at a high level. 889 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 2: I don't I think Zach Taylor is panicking right now 890 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: because they don't make the playoffs this year. 891 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: His seat is not going to be hot. 892 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be burning. They'll be on fire. I really 893 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: believe that, at least it should be. I don't know 894 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: what they do in Cincinnati with Mike Brown, but you 895 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: know he has a tendency. 896 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: To keep guys. 897 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens depending upon his contract. But 898 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: got to make got to make the playoffs, all right? 899 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: So who will be the big winner this NFL season? 900 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: That and so much more where right here on Fox 901 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: Sports Sunday next all right, you'll be shocked when you 902 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: hear who the winner is. That's coming right up. Good morning. 903 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, are Fox Sports Radio. He's 904 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. 905 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: You know what. 906 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and 907 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: a way we go, Bucky, I gotta tell you, I 908 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: got to hand it to you. I read NFL dot 909 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 2: Com every week. 910 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 3: I love it. 911 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: You right this week it's not only informative, it's controversial. 912 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 3: I love controversy. I do. I live for controversy. And 913 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 3: that's what you did. 914 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks is a writer, he's a scout, he's on TV, 915 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 2: he's on radio. 916 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: He does it all. And this week. 917 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where you got the idea to put 918 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: this together, but I love it. And what I'm talking 919 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 2: about is that basically, there are seven new coaches in 920 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 2: the NFL, and you're gonna tell us which one's gonna 921 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: have the most success. But you were visiting NFL camps 922 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: last week. You have any good nuggets before we get started, 923 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 2: any good insight information, some dope for us from the 924 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: NFL camps that you at. 925 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have any do, but I would 926 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 4: say that having a chance to watch the Dallas Cowboys 927 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 4: and the La Rams SQUFF and the joint practice, a 928 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 4: few things stood out. Davante Adams is gonna be a 929 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: big producer in this offense for the Rams. 930 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: He was getting busy the day that I was there. 931 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: The way that Sean McVay creates opportunities for him to 932 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 4: get open. He still has the skill set to win 933 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 4: consistently against top corners. And when you combine him and 934 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: put in the cool at this running game, and when 935 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford comes back, this offense is gonna be explosive, 936 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 4: but he's gonna be a big part of it. Any deep, 937 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 4: for the Cowboys, I would say they missed Michael Parsons. 938 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 4: Michael Parsons is everything when it comes to their pass rush, 939 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: their defense, and he was there. He was in good spirits, 940 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 4: they say, his families in town. And so even though 941 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 4: on the outside this looks like a very contentious and 942 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: acrimonious situation, there's a belief that this thing is gonna 943 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 4: get done before the regular season kicks off, and Michael 944 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 4: is gonna be the same player that he's always been 945 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 4: for the Cowboys, which is a high end and dominant player. 946 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned Devontae Adamson. I got to say, yeah, 947 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: he's great, he's a great player, but you got to 948 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: get the ball to him. And that's got to be 949 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. The guy's thirty seven years old. He's got 950 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: a bad back. I don't know if they're masking that, 951 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 2: they're hiding the fact that he's got a really bad 952 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 2: back at thirty seven years of age, and maybe it 953 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 2: takes one hit and bingo, he's gone. So what have 954 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: you heard about Matthew Stafford. 955 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I think everybody's still in kind of wait 956 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 4: and see mode when it comes to Matthew Stafford. Obviously 957 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 4: it's not ideal that he is dealing with an injury 958 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 4: like that, but look, he's a pro, and it takes 959 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 4: what it takes for him to get ready and eventually 960 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 4: he'll be ready to play. But I still believe, as 961 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 4: Sean Mvay talked about, they have a lot of belief 962 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 4: and confidence that he's gonna be Okay, he's dealing with 963 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 4: it back, but they feel like he's going to be 964 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 4: the same player that he's always been. 965 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 3: Well, he's a heck of a player, no doubt about that. 966 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: Now here's the deal. Seven new head coaches this year 967 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. First question, how difficult is 968 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: it to be a head coach for the first time? 969 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 3: You go from coordinator to coach. 970 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 2: I kind of compare that to you could be an 971 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: outstanding teacher, you know, in great school, and you're promoted 972 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: to a principal. Doesn't mean you'll be a great principal, right, Great, 973 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: you're great with the kids, you're great relationships in the classroom. 974 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: You're not a great administrator. You know, there's a difficulty. 975 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 2: Do you know, you got you have a lane to 976 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: be in. Teaching is one thing. Being a principal and 977 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: an administrator is something else. A coordinator is one thing, 978 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, being the guy in charge, the CEO, that's another. 979 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: How difficult is it to be a first year coach? 980 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: You know, guys like Ben Johnson with the Bears. I mean, 981 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: you got to change the culture at that place. That 982 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 2: place stinks. 983 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, But there's so much more to it than 984 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 4: just like changing the coach and those things like you 985 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 4: have all of that, which matters picking the players or whatever. 986 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 4: But it's a position that you're not fully prepared for 987 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 4: No matter what position you've done prior to being the 988 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 4: head coach, you're not ready to manage the entire team, 989 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 4: whether it's a offense or defensive coordinator, even a special 990 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 4: teams coordinator. 991 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: You're not used to managing all the things. 992 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 4: That come up, and some of the mechanics that you 993 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 4: have to deal with on game day can be problematic 994 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: in terms of a how do I manage the situation timeouts, 995 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 4: I need to talk to this player, I need to 996 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 4: get this side of the ball right while the other 997 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 4: side is on the field. And if I'm a play caller, 998 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 4: it's even compounded by the fact that A I need 999 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: to concentrate on my job, which is calling plays while 1000 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 4: also managing the entire team, checking in with the defense. 1001 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 4: It's hard and then away from the game before you 1002 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 4: even get the game. Every day, there's something that comes 1003 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 4: up with the team that the head coach must deal with. 1004 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 4: There's always something burning, something that you're having to address, 1005 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 4: a situation that could get sticky. 1006 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: That's part of the head coach. 1007 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 4: So so many head coaches fail because they can't focus 1008 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 4: on the things that made them a viable candidate because 1009 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 4: there's so much going on. 1010 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think the public realizes it. I 1011 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 2: mean the head coach obviously, I reckon that to like 1012 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 2: a CEO of a corporation. He's got to have his 1013 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: hand on every little thing, you know. And some coaches 1014 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 2: are defensive specialists, offensive specialists, and are kind dabbling that 1015 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 2: maybe more than on the other side of the football, but. 1016 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 3: More than that. 1017 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: After the game, they got a news conference Monday afternoon, 1018 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 2: they got a news conference midweek Wednesday news conference. They're 1019 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: basically the face of the team where the coordinators really 1020 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 2: don't have to do any of that. They've got to practice, 1021 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 2: make up their game plans, whatever it may be, and 1022 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: go home. 1023 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: That's what they do. The coach is like doing everything, 1024 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 3: plus this media responsibility, which really takes a lot of time. 1025 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: And you got to be careful what you say. You 1026 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 2: come back after a bad practice or after. 1027 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 3: A loss, and you say something bingal goes viral, you're 1028 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 3: up the creek. 1029 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Look, it's a tough deal. It's not 1030 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: it's not for the fan of heart. 1031 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 4: And you have to be organized, you have to be 1032 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 4: willing to delegate. You have to have enough people that 1033 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 4: you trust around you that can help you navigate the situation. 1034 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 4: And you have to have a patient that is willing 1035 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 4: to live through some of the on the job training 1036 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 4: that you must undergo to eventually become a good coach. 1037 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: Not easy, Not an easy situation at all. 1038 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 2: All Right, So now on NFL dot Com this week 1039 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: you had the top coach of the seven coaches who 1040 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: will win the most games? 1041 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 3: So I got to ask, how do you get. 1042 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 2: This formula by the coaching background of these guys or 1043 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: the personnel that they have, because I want to know, 1044 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 2: you ranked them what the seven who's going to have 1045 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: the most successful season? 1046 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 3: So how did you get to that? 1047 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 4: Yes, look, it's a challenge, right because you're guessing on 1048 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 4: a few different fronts. You're leaning on their pedigree, how 1049 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 4: they're entering the league, what they're coming in with, what 1050 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 4: that looks like. You're also counting on the personnel where 1051 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 4: they stack within the division. All of that by all 1052 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 4: of it matters when it comes to recognizing the projection 1053 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 4: or whatever. But it's a guessing game, and you're guessing 1054 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 4: who's going to have a team that is ready to 1055 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 4: go with minimal changes and they're going to buy into 1056 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 4: the new philosophy that is being implemented. So that's kind 1057 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 4: of how when it went about it. Look, but it's 1058 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 4: a big guessing game. It's an educated guessing game, but 1059 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 4: it's a guessing game nonetheless. 1060 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: Well, and I trust you because you played the game. 1061 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: You've been there, done that, and you said you were 1062 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 2: at the Cowboys training camp in ox Star, California. So 1063 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 2: let's start with the seven. I think that in your list, 1064 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 2: didn't you have Brian Schottenheimer number one? He'll have the 1065 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 2: most success of all the seven coaches. 1066 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1067 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 4: Part of that is due to the division and what 1068 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 4: the Cowboys have, particularly on offense, the synergy with Dak Prescott, 1069 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 4: Cede Lamb, George Pickens, Jake ferguson offensive line that is talented. 1070 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 4: They should be able to score enough points to give 1071 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 4: people problems. And then with Matt Eberflus coming back this 1072 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 4: time to take over the defense, which is more like 1073 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 4: the Rod Mary Nelly and christ Rahhard defenses that they 1074 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,479 Speaker 4: had success with years ago, it might be a better fit. 1075 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 4: Not that the defense needs to be dominant, but they 1076 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 4: need to be dominant and disruptive when they have the 1077 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 4: luxury of playing with the lead. To me, the pieces 1078 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 4: of the puzzle fit for them to have success. We're 1079 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 4: talking about nine ten wins. To me, that's a very 1080 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 4: doable deal for the Dallas Cowboys. 1081 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 2: So you're saying that Dallas Cowboys will be playoff bound 1082 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 2: this year. 1083 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they playoff buyd. 1084 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying they can get to nine or ten and 1085 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 4: wherever it falls, it falls. But yeah, I think they 1086 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: are a team that is in the conversation for being 1087 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 4: one of those last teams to sneak into the tournament. 1088 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to see a healthy Dak Prescott. I 1089 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: like that, Prescott. I think you got the job done 1090 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Now, Cede Lamb's got a partner, 1091 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: he's got a number two guy, and George Pickens takes 1092 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure of CD, who's been double teamed 1093 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 2: a lot. But George Pickers, to me, is a little 1094 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 2: bit of a goofball all right, great player, but you know, 1095 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 2: he could go off in his own way, and I 1096 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 2: just hope he doesn't cause any disruptions in that team, 1097 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 2: which he can do, and he did that in the 1098 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 2: locker room several times in Pittsburgh. 1099 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: He did. 1100 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: But he's in the contract year, so he has to 1101 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 4: be on his best behavior. You're banking on the fact 1102 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 4: that he understands that and knows For me to get 1103 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 4: what I want out of this, I got to make 1104 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 4: sure I'm a good teammate and a good team player. 1105 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 4: The other thing is, Cowboys people will tell you they 1106 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 4: feel like he's not just the number two. He's one 1107 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 4: B in comparison to Cede Lamb, and that has created 1108 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 4: a little bit of a competition between the two. Healthy competition, 1109 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 4: a healthy amount of respect between the two pass catchers, 1110 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 4: and that should bring out the best in both of 1111 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 4: those guys, which is exactly what the Cowboys want to 1112 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 4: see when all of the pressures on Dak Prescott in 1113 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 4: this offense to get it going. 1114 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you're very high on Ben Johnson, the new coach 1115 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 2: of the Chicago Bears, who was the offensive wizard you 1116 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: said for the Detroit Lions. 1117 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 3: Now here's my question. 1118 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 2: You got guy like eba Flus who coached the Bears, 1119 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 2: didn't do well gone now and his strengthler's defense. Now 1120 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 2: he's a defensive coordinator in Dallas. Fear that that could 1121 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 2: be in the in the future for Ben Johnson may 1122 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 2: not have a good head coaching. You know, life so 1123 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 2: to speak, and he may go back to being an 1124 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 2: offensive coordin, then I wish him well. I think the 1125 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 2: league would love to see the Chicago Bears be competitive, 1126 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 2: and maybe they will. But I understand from what I've read, 1127 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 2: and the Chicago media really was kind of a gas 1128 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: the other day that they put that Johnson put them 1129 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 2: through a practice that they had not seen in years 1130 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 2: in Chicago just the other day. So maybe these Bears 1131 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 2: are going to turn the corner, and maybe they can. 1132 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 2: I don't like what Caleb Williams did in the. 1133 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 3: Offseason with his book, said that you know, the Bears 1134 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 3: are placed for quarterbacks going to die. I mean they 1135 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 3: got to change that. 1136 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 2: Gott to change the image of this team before they 1137 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 2: could change the results on the field. 1138 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, one hundred percent. 1139 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 4: They do have to change the image on the uh. 1140 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: Like they got to change the image. You got to 1141 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: change the coach. 1142 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 4: You gotta change who they are and what they're about. 1143 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 4: I do love the fact that I hear players talking 1144 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 4: about Bean Johnson and the challenges that he sets forth 1145 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 4: in practice, the way that they are going about their 1146 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 4: business in a different manner. I am a believer that 1147 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 4: your team has to reflect the image of the city. 1148 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 4: There's a rough and ruggedness that encapsulates or that the 1149 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 4: city kind of represents and reflects, and the team has 1150 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 4: to be built in that image. So I want to 1151 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 4: see if the Monsters of the Midway on defense, but 1152 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 4: I want to see some bazazz on offense as well, 1153 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 4: while focusing on the running game. That's the kind of 1154 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 4: team that Ben Johnson wants to create if he follows 1155 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 4: the formula that was successful for them in Detroit. 1156 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: They want to run the football, they want to be physical, 1157 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: but they also want to be fun. I think they 1158 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: can mix that in. 1159 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 4: But a lot of hinges on the play and the 1160 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 4: performance of Kayler Williams. 1161 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 3: No doubt about that. 1162 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 2: I mean, what have you heard, because Kayler Williams right 1163 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 2: now is a little bit shaky. I think you get 1164 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 2: it done. I think they upgraded the cast of playmakers 1165 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: with their draft. They got the kid Colston Loveland. I 1166 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 2: think that's gonna help a little bit. 1167 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 3: But you know what, you know, you could draft the 1168 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 3: guy you don't expect immediate success. I don't think. 1169 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a growing curve. I got to wait 1170 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't think a guy who's drafted. 1171 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 2: Is it to come right in and turn things around? 1172 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, we can say that, but he was number 1173 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 4: one overall pick. That's the expectation, and I can let 1174 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 4: him off that point. So many people hailed him as 1175 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 4: a generational talent, as something that we hadn't seen before, 1176 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 4: put him into Pat Mahomes category. Well, my expectations, I'm 1177 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 4: gonna see some of that stuff, Like, that's what we 1178 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 4: want to see from a number one overall pick. You've 1179 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 4: taken number one because you have the potential and the 1180 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 4: talent to transform a franchise. 1181 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: Well, I want to see Kayla Williams transformed the franchise. 1182 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: All the excuses off. 1183 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 4: They upgraded the offensive line, they surrounded with more weapons 1184 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 4: on the outside, they brought in an offensive wizard to 1185 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 4: call the plays. At some point, he's gonna have to 1186 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 4: live up to the hype. In year two is the 1187 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 4: perfect time to do. So. 1188 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 2: Okay, you got you got Ben Johnson, who's never been 1189 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 2: a head coach. Got Schottenheimer, Brian Schottenheim have been an 1190 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 2: assistant for years, coordinator whoever may be. And you said 1191 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: that Schottenheim is gonna have the most success. I disagree. 1192 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 2: I think the guys got the most success. Number One, 1193 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 2: he's in the division where he can make some moves. 1194 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 2: And number two, he's been a head coach and he's 1195 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 2: done well as a head coach. I'm talking about Mike 1196 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 2: Rabel of the New England Patriots. I think this guy's 1197 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: going to be very successful. I think the Patriots going 1198 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: to turn it around. I think the Patriots I'm not 1199 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 2: going to challenge Buffalo, I don't think, but I think 1200 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: the Patriots probably a better season than the Jets. I 1201 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: think the Pagers could even make the playoffs this year. 1202 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: I think Rabel's going to have more success than the 1203 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 2: two offerrementioned coaches that we talked about. 1204 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 3: I really believe that. 1205 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a path for Mike Able to be there. 1206 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 4: And the only thing that held me back from putting 1207 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel at the top is the quarterback situation with 1208 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 4: Drake May. Can Drake May make that sophomore jump under 1209 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels. I've seen Josh McDaniels have a lot of 1210 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 4: success with Tom Brady. I've seen the success be scattershot 1211 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 4: with others. Can't he find a way to get Drake 1212 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 4: May playing at a higher level defensively? I have no 1213 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 4: doubt the Patriots gonna be better on defense. All the 1214 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 4: veterans they brought in, Roberts, Harold Landry, Milton Williams. 1215 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on and on. 1216 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 4: They have some older players there that helps him get 1217 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 4: on point. But can they score enough points to win? 1218 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 4: I am encouraged after watching them absolutely obliterate the Commanders 1219 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 4: on the preseason game. They're serious, They're about their business 1220 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 4: and they're going for it. And I think that score 1221 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 4: that we saw forty eight or whatever the thirteen that 1222 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 4: was by design. Mike Vabel is sending a message. He 1223 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 4: wants a tough, physical team, but he wants one that 1224 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 4: with a little more talent is gonna be problematic. Yeah, 1225 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 4: I could see them being in the mix. I just 1226 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 4: don't know about the quarterback yet. 1227 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 2: Well here's the thing. I mean, Drake May, is you 1228 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 2: a guy for North Carolina. Sometimes the quarterback is made 1229 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 2: by the receiver. 1230 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs is gonna make Drake May. 1231 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: You know, And maybe it's a stupid thing for me 1232 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 2: to say, but and you played the game so you 1233 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 2: could challenge me on this. You know, does the quarterback 1234 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 2: make the receiver or is it vice versa. I think 1235 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: in this situation, Stefon Diggs is going to help make 1236 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 2: Drake May grow all right. In other situations, I think 1237 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 2: that it's a even Stevens situation with Jamar Chase and 1238 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. 1239 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know who makes whom. They're both great, 1240 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 3: they really are. 1241 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 2: But in this situation, Stefan Diggs been there, done that, 1242 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 2: He's gonna make Drake May. 1243 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 4: Okay, look chicken in the egg debate, Chicken in the egg, 1244 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 4: Chicken in the egg. 1245 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 2: But when you've seen receivers who were maybe not top 1246 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 2: shelf receivers been made to the next level because of 1247 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: a quarterback correct And I think that quarterbacks can take 1248 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 2: a receiver who basically is so so and make them good, 1249 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 2: not hall of famers, but but really really good. 1250 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,720 Speaker 3: And I look at the New England Patriots. 1251 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 2: They've had a kind of a situation like that for 1252 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 2: years with Tom Brady. Look at Tom Brady and the 1253 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 2: receivers he had. Who's going to the Hall of Fame. 1254 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 2: Who went to the Hall of Fame. 1255 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 3: Besides moss On the New England Patriots that there is 1256 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 3: a receiver, think about. 1257 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: That they did not receive it. Brady yeah, I mean 1258 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 1: you're right. And now, so we're ready to call Drake 1259 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,280 Speaker 1: May Tom Brady? 1260 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 4: Are we ready to say that Stephan Diggs is going 1261 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 4: to make Drake May into Tom Brady? 1262 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: Now. 1263 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,439 Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs played a significant role in Josh Allen turned 1264 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 4: the corner in Buffalo. The Patriots are probably hoping when 1265 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 4: they signed Stefan Diggs that he can help Drake May 1266 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 4: by doing the same things he did for Josh Allen, 1267 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:32,439 Speaker 4: which was consistent, reliable, dependable pass catcher that you could 1268 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 4: trust in those big moments. If he's that, then he's 1269 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 4: well worth his weight and goal. 1270 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: All right, And speak of the quarterbacks, you got to 1271 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 2: be really excited. I know you're bursting inside. You didn't 1272 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 2: want to say anything that's going to hurt anything, and 1273 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: maybe you look foolish, but you got to be really 1274 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 2: excited about Jacksonville. I think this is a breakout year 1275 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,919 Speaker 2: for Trevor Lawrence and I got the new coach in Cohen. 1276 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: I think he's done a good job. I mean, look, 1277 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 2: he did a good job with Baker Mayfield. Can he 1278 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: do that job with Trevor Lawrence. I mean Trevor Lawrence, 1279 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: I think is a better quarterback top to bottom. The 1280 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 2: beg of Mayfield just never had the opportunity, and he 1281 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 2: had so many coaches and offensive coordinators over the last 1282 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 2: several years. That's gotta be a negative. It really has 1283 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 2: to be. I think that Jacksonville's gonna be breakout this year. 1284 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Trevor takes to this. 1285 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 4: Like by all accounts, things are going well, progressing nicely. 1286 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 4: The offense moved the ball a little bit while he 1287 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 4: was in the game in preseason, and he's only going 1288 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 4: to get better with more reps. The big thing for 1289 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 4: the Jags offensively that they're fine with exception of the 1290 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 4: offensive line, which is everything. 1291 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: The offensive line has to play well. 1292 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 4: They gotta be able to run the football better because 1293 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 4: that sets up to sets up some deep all shots 1294 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 4: for Trevor Lawrence. And then defensively, can they generate stops 1295 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 4: with this a ben but don't break unit. Depending how 1296 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 4: all that shakes out really impacts how Trevor Lawrence will 1297 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 4: perform and how Liam Cohen will perform and track as 1298 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 4: a first time here coach. 1299 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 2: And Brian Thomas is an up and comers. He's a 1300 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 2: great player, He's a great receiver. I think that he's 1301 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 2: gonna break out too. He's have a breakout seas. I 1302 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: think Jacksonville is gonna do real well, you know, And 1303 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: I see the locals in the Cincinnati market talking about 1304 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 2: the Bengals right now being two and zero. Watch it, 1305 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 2: watch it. They may trip over Jacksonville. I'm telling you, 1306 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a nay sayer. You know, I'm 1307 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 2: not a cheerleader. I'm not a negative guy. I'm not 1308 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 2: that kind of a person, you know me. But I 1309 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: just think that it's not gonna be as easy as 1310 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 2: they think. They're not gonna roll over Jacksonville. I think 1311 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough ball game in Cincinnati. And 1312 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 2: you'll be there, right, You will be there. 1313 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will be there. It should be a lot 1314 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 4: of fun. I'm looking forward to it. That'll be a 1315 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 4: huge test for the Jags. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase that 1316 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 4: that offense is liiceyle T. 1317 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: Higgins. Yeah, I mean not looking forward to that. 1318 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 3: Well, that'd be really good. 1319 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, let me just go one more one, because you 1320 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 2: got Pete Carroll basically new new, but he's old school 1321 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 2: and he's been there and he's going to the to 1322 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders. I got Geno Smith, who was 1323 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 2: plus for him because he's been with him in Seattle. 1324 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 3: But do you think they're gonna make any any moves? 1325 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 3: I think I just I don't know. They got Max Crosby, 1326 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 3: defensive player of the year guy. I just don't know 1327 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Brock Bauers. Other than that, I don't know Ashton Jenty. 1328 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 4: The first game, no, I didn't do it, But I 1329 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 4: don't think you can judge necessarily by the preseason game. 1330 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 4: I think Pete Carroll is going to have this team 1331 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 4: flying around. 1332 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: He's excitable. 1333 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 4: He's done a really good job of infusing this franchise 1334 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 4: with some of that collegiate enthusiasm to get going. And 1335 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 4: if the guys buy in completely, buy in, submit to 1336 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 4: what he's saying, he's proven that he can win. It's 1337 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 4: just a matter of time for the win. Division is hard, 1338 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 4: but they're closing the gap on the competition. I just 1339 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 4: don't know if it's gonna result in many wins this season. 1340 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Okay, we did five of the seven. We're gonna get 1341 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 3: the next two. 1342 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 2: We'll do that, But right now we're to mention that 1343 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 2: for the best pregame show every single weekend. 1344 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Be sure to did the Fox Sports Radios. 1345 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Countdown, presented by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning 1346 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 2: from nine am to noon Eastern six to nine am Pacific. 1347 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 3: We will count you down to all of the biggest 1348 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 3: games too. 1349 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 2: The Countdown presented by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning, 1350 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 1351 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 3: We have YAO and A in this hour the Blame Game, 1352 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 3: an hour number three. But one NFL player is getting 1353 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 3: some sound advice from a teammate. 1354 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: But will it work? 1355 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 3: That's coming up next, all right, his teammate had the 1356 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 3: same problem. 1357 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 2: He really did. We'll get to that in just about 1358 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 2: a minute. He is my guy, Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, 1359 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 2: and we are live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. 1360 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 2: We'll have yay n A in about oh ten eleven 1361 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 2: minutes from now. But you know, Bucky Brooks had the 1362 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com the seven new coaches in the NFL. 1363 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 2: Which coach will have the most success? Started out with 1364 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Brian Schottenheimer. But now I wish this 1365 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 2: man well. His name is Aaron Glennie played for Bill Parcells, 1366 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 2: he's a head coach in the New York Jets, and 1367 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 2: I will say this, I think it's important for New 1368 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 2: York to make claim in the National Football League. 1369 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 3: It's not as big as it is. 1370 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 2: And when I say this in baseball, I think it's 1371 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 2: important for the Yankees and Mets to win. Why I 1372 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 2: think the New York markets needed in Major League Baseball. 1373 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: I don't think the New York market is needed that 1374 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 2: much in the National Football League. I will say this 1375 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 2: in college basketball, it's very important for the Big East 1376 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 2: to have New York and Saint John's do well. It's 1377 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 2: important for the Big East Conference. 1378 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 3: It really is. 1379 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 2: In football, I think you'll agree it's not that important. 1380 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: And market size doesn't mean that much for fan It's 1381 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 2: just people love the NFL from Green Bay to New 1382 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 2: York to Atlanta to la It doesn't make a difference. 1383 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 3: It really doesn't. 1384 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 2: But I think Aaron Glenn's gonna do well. Last night, 1385 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 2: the Jets beat up on the Packers thirty to ten. 1386 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Justin Field's played, let them to the seventy nine yard 1387 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 2: touchdown drive, and I think they're going to do well. 1388 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 2: I think the Jets well they make the playoffs. That 1389 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 2: I can't tell you, Buck, I don't know, but I 1390 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 2: think they'll be respectable. 1391 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 1392 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 4: I think it's all follow the blueprint, and I know 1393 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,439 Speaker 4: that blueprint is. It's because the same blueprint that Bill 1394 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 4: Parcells use to turn around the Jets years and years 1395 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 4: ago when Keishon Johnson was the number one receiver and 1396 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn was a part of that team. They're going 1397 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 4: to run the football. They're gonna run the football in 1398 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 4: a variety of ways. They're gonna run it with Brayln 1399 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 4: Allen Breeshaw and Justin Fields. They're gonna throw it outside 1400 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 4: to Garrett Wilson and Mason Taylor on play action passes, 1401 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 4: and they're going to rely on their defense to make Hey, 1402 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 4: remember this is one of more talented defenses that you 1403 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 4: will find. What this team needs is a pinch of toughness, 1404 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 4: a pinch of throwback old school toughness, a whole a 1405 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 4: hardened mindset, which is what they did in Detroit when 1406 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 4: Eric Glynn was a part of that staff. To me, 1407 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 4: this is going to work because Aaron Glynn knows the 1408 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 4: organization inside and out and he knows exactly how to 1409 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 4: fix it based on a blueprint and a formulat that 1410 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 4: worked successfully years ago. 1411 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Now, I think there's suthing to be said about how 1412 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 2: the chemistry. When I say chemistry, I mean Joe Burrow 1413 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase, they both played at LSU. They know 1414 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 2: each other, I know everything about each other. Now you 1415 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 2: got Justin Fields, a quarterback went to Ohio State, and 1416 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson he went to Ohio State. 1417 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 3: They played with each other. I think that means something. 1418 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 3: It really does. 1419 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that chemistry and connection is terrific. 1420 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 4: They spend a couple of years together to Ohio State. They 1421 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 4: know each other, and they have a respect for one another, 1422 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 4: which certainly helps in that chemistry that was lacking last 1423 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 4: year between Aaron Rodgers and Wilson. 1424 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 1: That won't be there. 1425 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 4: They'll have chemistry, they'll be on the same page, and 1426 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 4: that leads to more success throwing the ball. 1427 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the running games decent. It really is. 1428 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 2: Braylen Allen and Breese Hall pretty good runners. I think 1429 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 2: I'll get the ball going, but Justin Field's going to 1430 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: get it done. I just I fear of saying they're 1431 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs, but I think that they 1432 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 2: could possibly be five hundred or a little better this year, 1433 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 2: and I'm really looking forward to next week because they 1434 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 2: have the annual Jet Giant game. Doesn't mean much as preseason, 1435 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 2: but we'll see a little more than we saw in 1436 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 2: the first game. 1437 01:04:55,240 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: This week, which means it doesn't mean anything mean stuff. 1438 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Well mean, some of the players who are lying for 1439 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 2: positions on the team, we're not gonna see much more 1440 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 2: justin fields. I don't think he's not gonna play half, 1441 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 2: is he? 1442 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 8: I mean? 1443 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Uh no? 1444 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 4: You know what, most teams are used next week as 1445 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 4: the big game, So yeah, I think he may play 1446 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 4: a few more series than he. 1447 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Played this week. 1448 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn appears to have a little more of an 1449 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 4: old school pro, so yeah, what you're calling on is 1450 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 4: probably what he do. When you say he'll play a half, Yeah, 1451 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 4: I can see that. 1452 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: I see him playing a half. 1453 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 3: That sounds good. 1454 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 2: Now, Now, you had Aaron Glenn's number six in your seven. Now, 1455 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 2: if I were you, I would have stopped at six 1456 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 2: because you got Kellen Moore at seven. You know, he 1457 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 2: might as well be seventy because right now is head 1458 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 2: coach of New Orleans Saints. If they win four games, 1459 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I'll be shocked. I really I mean they have, Like, 1460 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 2: I feel bad for the guy, but again, everybody wants 1461 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 2: to be a head coach. But after this year, they 1462 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 2: gotta give him another year. They gotta give him some 1463 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you got what Spencer Rattler quarterback. I just 1464 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna get done so again. And I say, 1465 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 2: you say he's number seven, might as well have been 1466 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 2: number seventy seven because he should have stopped at six. 1467 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't see any hope whatsoever for the New Orleans Saints. 1468 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 2: I might too much of a negative kind of guy 1469 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: in this one. I don't think so, I really don't. 1470 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you seem like you might be a bit 1471 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 4: of a hater, just a little bit. I mean just 1472 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 4: a little bit. But I like, I get it, I 1473 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 4: understand it. It's not it's not a perfect situation when 1474 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 4: it comes to what Kella Moore is stepping into. I mean, 1475 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 4: he's the quarterback guru without a quarterback. They took Tyler Shutt, 1476 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,919 Speaker 4: but the reports coming out of camp haven't been great. 1477 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 4: Maybe he progressed as quickly as a rookie, but you're 1478 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 4: looking at Spencer rather Tyler Shutt, jayk Amner without a quarterback, 1479 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 4: no matter how many great beers they have, no matter 1480 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 4: how many vets they have that are ready to get 1481 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 4: this team to the next level, it starts at quarterback, 1482 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 4: and I just don't know if they're good enough around 1483 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 4: the quarterback to get it done. If the quarterback doesn't 1484 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,919 Speaker 4: play very well. 1485 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the bad news is is that basically there's 1486 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 2: not really much in the draft. They were finished for 1487 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 2: the first pick to get a quarterback. You know, didn't 1488 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: arch Manning. Didn't his grandpa say the other day, I 1489 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 2: don't want to go into New Orleans? Didn't he say that? 1490 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 2: So if they get the first pick and they want 1491 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 2: to draft arch Manning, forget it. 1492 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 3: Even they want to go there, So they're up the 1493 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 3: creek a ready. 1494 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's not a great situation right out 1495 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 4: the gate, you know. I will say that for arch Manning, 1496 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 4: he wants to stay in and get better, which makes 1497 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 4: sense because remember Eli and Payton, they stayed in got 1498 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 4: significant rest before they made their way to the league. 1499 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 4: So if money isn't an issue and you have the 1500 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 4: opportunity to stay and develop and play without having to 1501 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 4: worry about the next level, the best thing for him 1502 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 4: to do is to stay in college. 1503 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 1: And play it out and kind of see what it 1504 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: looks like. 1505 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 2: Well, history repeats yourself, right, said in Eli when he 1506 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 2: got drafted, he didn't want to go to the West Coast, 1507 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 2: but they traded him eventually and he went to New York. 1508 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 3: I mean, crazy, isn't it. 1509 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's how I played out for sure, no. 1510 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 3: Doubt about that. 1511 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 2: Now let's talk Dallas Cowboys simply because you said Brian 1512 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 2: Shott and I was gonna be the best of the 1513 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 2: seven guys coming in. And when I talk Dallas Cowboys, 1514 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 2: well it means one thing. JJJ Square, Jerry Jones, and 1515 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 2: I always believe that owners should be seen and not heard. 1516 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Don't you agree? I mean, think about it. 1517 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,759 Speaker 2: You know, the average guy on the street who follows 1518 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 2: the National Football League probably couldn't name three owners, Probably 1519 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 2: not Jerry Jones number one, Robert Kraft number two after that. 1520 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 2: I don't think people not only could not name him, 1521 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 2: they don't want to name they don't have to. But 1522 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is always out there, and I think that 1523 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 2: it hurts the image. I heard stories and tell me 1524 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,640 Speaker 2: if I'm based on this that he goes into the 1525 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 2: locker room after games Jerry, I mean the game is over, 1526 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 2: he goes down to the lock Come on, really, he's 1527 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 2: stay in your owner's box. 1528 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 1: Say the owner's box. You don't want him, you don't 1529 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: want him involved, want in the locker room. If you're 1530 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: own a. 1531 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 4: Product, you don't want to be responsible for making sure 1532 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 4: that you tend to the product. 1533 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 3: Do you have to go in the locker room after 1534 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 3: a game? 1535 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, like, I mean, it's a little much, 1536 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: A little much. Yeah, it's a little much. It's a 1537 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: lot to deal with. But well, you understand. 1538 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 2: He's involved now with this Michael Parsons thing and his 1539 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: contract frustrations, and this becomes like a public talking point. 1540 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 2: Everybody's got they got it line in the sand. Everybody's 1541 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 2: got his position. 1542 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 3: You're with Jerry Jones, you're against Jerry Jones with Micah, 1543 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 3: and the public seems to be backing Jerry Jones. I 1544 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,719 Speaker 3: don't know why, because he's an owner. The public doesn't 1545 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 3: like players. 1546 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 2: I don't like being paid. I don't understand. I just 1547 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 2: don't get that. Do you feel that as well, that 1548 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 2: the public seems to be backing Jerry Jones saying, yeah, 1549 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 2: Jerry held out, don't pay the guy. 1550 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't get it. I really don't understand 1551 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 3: that at all. 1552 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 4: Look, man, it's always weird, but it is one of 1553 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 4: the things where most of the time fans backed billionaires 1554 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 4: over millionaires. And for whatever reason, maybe because you're more 1555 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 4: aligned to the team than your favorite player, the team 1556 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 4: typically always gets to support in these contract situations, and 1557 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 4: there's a little bit of maybe, Like I don't call 1558 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 4: any jealous, like that's not the proper way to say it, 1559 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 4: but sometimes people look at players and say, like, how 1560 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 4: are you complaining about the money that you make for 1561 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 4: playing a kid's game? 1562 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: Right? 1563 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 4: That can fall into it, you know, but yeah, right now, 1564 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 4: decide with Jerry Jones, I. 1565 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Can understand that. 1566 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,759 Speaker 4: I think the bigger issue with the Cowboys and Michael Parsons. 1567 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,719 Speaker 4: The Cowboys have to feel good about handing the bag 1568 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 4: to Michael Parsons, And what is he going to do 1569 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 4: once you pay him? 1570 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 1: Like, because once you pay. 1571 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 4: Him, and the number is gonna be significant where he's 1572 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 4: gonna be the highest paid in the National Football League. 1573 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 4: If you don't feel great about his leadership style or 1574 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 4: any of that stuff, you kind of paused before doing it. 1575 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 4: But he certainly earned the right to be in that 1576 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,600 Speaker 4: conversation with Miles Gary TJ. Watt when it comes to 1577 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,480 Speaker 4: the money. 1578 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 3: No doubt about that. And for those of you living 1579 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 3: in a cave, Michael Parsons holding in, not holding out, 1580 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 3: holding in, He's not fine fifty grand a day. He's 1581 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 3: holding in. 1582 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 2: During the Cowboys training camp he went to contract extension. 1583 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 2: He's not practiced since he made his trade request public 1584 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 2: last Friday. He's with the team, he's in uniform, but 1585 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 2: he's on the sidelines during the team and he's on 1586 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 2: the sidelines during the joint practices, including that session. I 1587 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 2: guess you were there against the Rams on Tuesday. You 1588 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 2: were there against that. So he's on the sidelines, so right, 1589 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 2: and honestly his teammate, And honest this is kind of 1590 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 2: crazy because most often you don't hear teammates talking about 1591 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 2: guys who are holding out. 1592 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 3: It's like everybody's got their own deal, and you know, 1593 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,640 Speaker 3: good luck to you. Leave me alone. I'm out of it. 1594 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 2: But Dak Prescott got involved and he said, I've been 1595 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 2: involved with this too, with join out negotiations with Jerry Jones. 1596 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 2: And he said to him, and he went to Prescott, 1597 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,760 Speaker 2: he says, what do you gotta do, he says, f man. 1598 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 3: That's what he said, So frustration. I guess that's what 1599 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 3: he meant by I would think he says, frustrating. For 1600 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 3: everybody involved, that is frustrating. You know, he wants to play. 1601 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure the teammates want him on the field, 1602 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 3: and I'm sure Parsons wants to be on the field 1603 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 3: as well. So we'll see what happens. 1604 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 2: But then Jerry comes back and says, I'm built for 1605 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 2: these kinds of challenges. It's not a challenge sign the 1606 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 2: freaking guy, well kind of. 1607 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 4: You know. 1608 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 2: It sounds like he lives for this. You know, it's 1609 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 2: like competitiveness. He wants to go back and forth with 1610 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 2: this guy. 1611 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 4: It's crazy, It is crazy. But to know Jerry is 1612 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 4: to love Jerry, and this is negotiation is a sport 1613 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 4: for Jerry Jones. He lives for this. This is a competition. 1614 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 4: He wants to win the deal. And the contentious or 1615 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 4: combative nature of this that would bother some doesn't bother 1616 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 4: him at all. He is okay with it. He's okay 1617 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 4: with being the bad guy all of this stuff. So 1618 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 4: I mean, nedit. We know, we know what it is. 1619 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 4: This is what it's going to be, and we have 1620 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 4: to be ready to watch this play out. 1621 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 2: It's a game to him because you know, if Prescott 1622 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 2: comes back and accepts what he's with Jerry offers him, 1623 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 2: then Jerry quick puts a notch on the walls that 1624 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 2: I won. 1625 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 3: It's a game he won, right, That's what it is. 1626 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it definitely is a game. But I don't 1627 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 4: know how it's a game that is won, that he 1628 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 4: can win. But yeah, it's a game, man. He finds 1629 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 4: it funny. He finds the joy in this. There's joy 1630 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 4: in being able to get this done, which to me 1631 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 4: is stupid. 1632 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 3: But I agree, oh with you. 1633 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 2: But Dak Prescott back in twenty twenty one, he had 1634 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 2: like a couple of extended contract problems with Jerry and 1635 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 2: they got that four year deal for like one hundred 1636 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 2: and sixty mins. 1637 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens now. 1638 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 2: But the question I have right now, will Michael Parsons 1639 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 2: be in the lineup against the Eagles on September the fourth? 1640 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 4: I say, yes, uh, yes, here be here. 1641 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,599 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure he will. 1642 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 1: He will. He will be there for sure. All right. 1643 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 2: That's good to make Cowboy fans happy. Right now, and Jerry, 1644 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna lose. He's gonna get the money and he's 1645 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 2: gonna play, all right. Be sure to check out the 1646 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Yes, did a ton of 1647 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 2: great videos for many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. 1648 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see 1649 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,599 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of video highlights from all of our shows. 1650 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,599 Speaker 2: And be sure to subscribe so you always have instant 1651 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 2: access to our Fox. 1652 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 3: Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, it's simple. You have 1653 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 3: a fifty percent chance either way. It's yay or nay, 1654 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 3: and you know what it's next, all right, take your 1655 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 3: pick yay or nay, and it's yours in just about 1656 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 3: a minute. 1657 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Yes, and it's about twelve minutes before the top of 1658 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,759 Speaker 2: the hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks, 1659 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 2: I'm Iny Firman too. Are live on the Fox Sports 1660 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Radio studios. But right now, right now, it's time for 1661 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 2: yay or nay. 1662 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 8: Okay, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen. 1663 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 1: These stories needed, ass I think we need on this 1664 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 1: yay or nay l D. Yay or nay l D. 1665 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go yay because I am in on this one. 1666 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 8: Guys. 1667 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 10: So I got one for a ya in a n 1668 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 10: a uh. So Caleb Williams and the Bears. Caleb is 1669 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 10: not playing in this preseason game for what is it today. 1670 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 5: Or tomorrow whatever? 1671 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 10: He did not put it to Dolphins today against the Dumbins. 1672 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 10: Not playing yay or nay on this, Andy Furman, I 1673 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 10: say nay, let him play. He's got to play, because 1674 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 10: you know what, he'll cry either way. He'll cry if 1675 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 10: he loses. 1676 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 3: He cries. 1677 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 2: He doesn't play. Everybody, I guess to us, see what 1678 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 2: he did playing cry. 1679 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Let him play. 1680 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:43,719 Speaker 3: He needs to play. 1681 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Make him work, Ben, come on, Ben, Ben Johnson, my guys, 1682 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say nay. I would say, don't play him. 1683 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 4: If you have a plan that in plays, you want 1684 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,559 Speaker 4: to enjoin practices and those things, don't need to play him. 1685 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 4: If you can get all the work done in practice, 1686 01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 4: don't play them in the game. 1687 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 10: All right, We're going with the NAIs on that one. 1688 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 10: But we're gonna go to some little league guys. So 1689 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 10: a little league coach went viral for his dad joke 1690 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 10: on the mound. Jake Riordan, the head coach of the 1691 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 10: team from a Kentucky saw things weren't going so well. 1692 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 10: So his starting pitcher Banks Denton. Wow, that's a name, 1693 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 10: loaded the bases on fourteen pitches and look nervous. 1694 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 5: So Riordan wanted to light the mood. He walked to 1695 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 5: the mountain. 1696 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 10: He said, do you know that a koala bear is 1697 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 10: not actually a bear? 1698 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 5: It's a marsupial. He told the kids to lighten the mood. 1699 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 10: Yeah or nay on this whole entire just situation, Bucky. 1700 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 4: I mean yay in terms of trying to keep him 1701 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 4: distracted and try and keep it loose. 1702 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: But it's a little silly for my taste. But I 1703 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 1: get it. You're dealing with Loki, so you gotta do 1704 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. 1705 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 3: I say nay, And if on the pitch and I say, 1706 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 3: you know what, get the hell off the mountain. 1707 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 2: You out of your mind. Go see a shrink. There's 1708 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,639 Speaker 2: something wrong with you. Okay, I'm not getting the ball 1709 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 2: over the plate. I get it. I know what I 1710 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 2: gotta do. Leave me low Aquala bass right now, there's 1711 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 2: something wrong with you. I stopped drinking. I smell your breath. 1712 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 11: Wow. 1713 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,639 Speaker 4: Are you calling them butter maker from the Bad News Bears? 1714 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: YEA, Then you call it. Yeah, sell them butter maker. Yeah, 1715 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: the butter maker came to the mountain. 1716 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I smell his breath. 1717 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 5: Geez. 1718 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 10: Well, from one butter maker manager to an MLB manager, 1719 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:27,759 Speaker 10: so we got a MOLB. Milwaukee Brewers manager Pat Murphy 1720 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 10: went viral for pulling a pancake out of his uniformed 1721 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 10: pocket and taking a bite, as he detailed different ways 1722 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 10: he above shoves food into his pockets, snack on the dugout. 1723 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 3: Yeah your nay, Andy, you know, I say yay for 1724 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,320 Speaker 3: a seconds? Who want to see this pig? 1725 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 2: I mean, really and truly, this guy you must have 1726 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 2: ants and roaches and mice in his pants. Really, how 1727 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 2: do you look around with a pancake and food in 1728 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 2: your pocket? I mean, really, can you not hold out 1729 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 2: for two and a half hours not to eat? I 1730 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 2: mean really, I want to see what he looks like. 1731 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I have a him up close. Pat Murphy's he's that big? 1732 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:02,679 Speaker 2: Is he fat? 1733 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 10: I mean? 1734 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 2: How much can you stuff on a pancake in your pocket? 1735 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm really, nah, He's fine. I appreciate it. I dig it. Actually, 1736 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he put it out of his pocket. 1737 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 4: This is a guy that was super successful as a 1738 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 4: coach at Arizona State leading the Sun Devils, and so 1739 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 4: I'm willing to buy in. 1740 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Whatever works for him works for him. I'm gonna go 1741 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:22,720 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah. 1742 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 10: Oh jeez, Well, we're gonna stay with baseball here, guys. 1743 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 10: So Jason Smith's mets here shout out to Jason Smith. 1744 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,639 Speaker 10: Well honor the sixtieth anniversary of the Beatles performance at 1745 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 10: Shay Stadium when they host the Mariners August fifteenth for 1746 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,840 Speaker 10: Beatles Night at City Field. 1747 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 5: Yeah or nay, Bucky? 1748 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 4: I mean, who doesn't like the Beatles? So like, yeah, 1749 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 4: I mean that's a pretty cool little throwback moment. Anything 1750 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 4: to provide an incentive for people to come to the park, 1751 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 4: I'm with So, I understand it. 1752 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: Let's go. 1753 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 3: I say, nay. You know why, if you can't promote 1754 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 3: the game of baseball, then there's something wrong with you. 1755 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 3: Want you have to promote the Beatles. Everybody and their 1756 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 3: mother promotes the Beatles, right. 1757 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 2: Every FM radio station in the world promotes the Beatles, 1758 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 2: promote baseball, promote the game. 1759 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: Geez. 1760 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 10: Well, speaking of promoting the game here, we're gonna stay 1761 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 10: with baseball here. So Jen Powell made history Saturday when 1762 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 10: she became the first female umpire to work a major 1763 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 10: league regular season game. She worked both ends of a 1764 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 10: doubleheader between the Braves and Marlin's at Truest Park. 1765 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 1: Yeay or nail on this, Andy, I. 1766 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 2: Say yay, And I'll tell you why she's better than 1767 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 2: a Robut and I love to see the women get 1768 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 2: a chance. All Right, she's working and it's either her 1769 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 2: or a Roebut take her Take Jen? 1770 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 3: All right, Jen, good for you. 1771 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's great. 1772 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 4: I mean like to see us progress to the point 1773 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 4: where she's able to call the game like it's great, terrific, right. 1774 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 2: You know what, though, I give a credit because I 1775 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,280 Speaker 2: think she umpired baseball in the mono leagues for twelve years. 1776 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Twelve years. I mean most people would have packed it 1777 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 2: in by then. But twelve years running a bus and 1778 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:03,720 Speaker 2: finally got it done. 1779 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,720 Speaker 3: That's great. The only the other question I had that 1780 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 3: they have like a separate umpire room for her. 1781 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 2: I imagine they do with the umpires get dressed and 1782 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 2: whatever it might be, have a locker, so the other 1783 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,640 Speaker 2: three are in one room and she's by herself. I 1784 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 2: mean that's you know, you gotta you gotta talk to 1785 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 2: the honest before the game. 1786 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 3: You gotta get it together. But I guess maybe they 1787 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 3: do by the walkie talkie or something. 1788 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 1: I don't know, right, yeah, different, I don't know. Yeah, 1789 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 1: it's be challenging. 1790 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 2: I'm always thinking about the possibilities of what's happening right there. 1791 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 2: I mean they got officials in the NFL, female officials, right. 1792 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 4: So yeah in the NFL, yes, yes, I don't know 1793 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 4: if we had a head official. 1794 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 3: Yet, right, they'll dil eventually. Why not? 1795 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 2: They got they got male referees in the w NBA, 1796 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 2: so why not have female officials? You know what, what's 1797 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 2: the difference if they can handle it? Good Now an 1798 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 2: NFL coach ses red, really red. We'll tell you all 1799 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 2: about it. How Fox botsun they coming up next right here? 1800 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 2: Or is this any way to coach? We'll get to 1801 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 2: that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This 1802 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,719 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. 1803 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 3: Ready. 1804 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 2: Why is it Fox Sports Sunday because today's Sunday silly. 1805 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 2: That's why he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Indy furmanive a live. 1806 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports radio studios, and Bucky, 1807 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,440 Speaker 2: how are you? It's that time? You know, people go crazy, 1808 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 2: they're excited about football. You know what, after the third week, 1809 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna say. 1810 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, you know, forget it. 1811 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 2: They mean really, right, isn't that the way it is? 1812 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 2: It's true, especially if their team is like, oh and three, 1813 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 2: that's the way. The same old, same old. You come 1814 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 2: out if you're in New Orleans and you're rooining for 1815 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,679 Speaker 2: the Saints, and I'm sure they are. I mean, after 1816 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 2: the first two three games, Oh my goodness, kid really 1817 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,599 Speaker 2: own three Spencer Ratler quarterback. I mean, come on, really, 1818 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 2: It's just I think they're more excited about college football 1819 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 2: than the NFL. 1820 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,800 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. 1821 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 1: You think you think that's what it is. I don't know. 1822 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 4: I mean I think the NFL is a slow cook 1823 01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 4: when it comes to building up the excitement because what 1824 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,479 Speaker 4: we talked about the earlier hours the preseason, what it is. 1825 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 4: You know, you talk about owners making money in an 1826 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,679 Speaker 4: evaluation period and sometimes you have a lot of unknowns playing. 1827 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 4: It's it's not the same game that you see when 1828 01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 4: you get to the regular season. 1829 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 1: That's why some of the excitement is not there right now. 1830 01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 4: Whereas in college football, the only time you see your 1831 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 4: team play is for real and when you get a 1832 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 4: chance to see them for real. 1833 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,080 Speaker 1: You're excited and you're ready to go. 1834 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 2: Now, we touched on this early on, but I want 1835 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 2: to get into it a little deeper right now. Why 1836 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,320 Speaker 2: don't colleges have preseason and the pros have preseason? I 1837 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,800 Speaker 2: mean one of the reasons, obviously is the ownership makes 1838 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,760 Speaker 2: money on the preseason games, right, that's what they do. 1839 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 2: But the colleges that go right into it, there's no preseason. 1840 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 2: I didn't even think they have scrimmages against other colleges. 1841 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 1: Do they? 1842 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:47,680 Speaker 3: I don't think they do. 1843 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 4: No, they don't like they get right to it, you 1844 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:52,600 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 1845 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: They get right to the action. 1846 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 2: So why can't the pros get right to it and 1847 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: avoid the potential injuries, avoid the problems. Should he play? 1848 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 2: Shouldn't he play? He only plays two series? I don't 1849 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 2: get it. Doesn't It doesn't make any sense. As some 1850 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,479 Speaker 2: coaches have the philosophy and you read wants to play 1851 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 2: as regulars. Patrick Maholmes plays all the time. Now, Joe 1852 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 2: Burrow is going to play for the Bengals, but Zach 1853 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 2: Taelo wants him to play things. It makes a difference. 1854 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 2: Get them a fast start, I don't know. I don't 1855 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,679 Speaker 2: know what the answer is, but I'd like to see 1856 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,680 Speaker 2: maybe eliminate the preseason go right into it. 1857 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would prefer to see some preseason stuff. Colleges 1858 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 4: are a little different. I would prefer for them to 1859 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 4: play some scrimmages and some preseason games as well. I 1860 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 4: think if you ask their coaches, they would prefer to 1861 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 4: have some scrimmages where they can find out. 1862 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,759 Speaker 1: It just makes your job tougher. 1863 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 4: When you don't have scrimmages and things to assess your 1864 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 4: team before the regular season, you just don't know. So 1865 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 4: it's a lot of speculation with your own team in 1866 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 4: terms of which players are good, which ones aren't, because 1867 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 4: when you're just going against yourself, you can get a 1868 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,439 Speaker 4: false sense of reality in terms of are we good 1869 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 4: enough or are we not good enough? 1870 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 1: In those things. 1871 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 2: Well, I could also see the Dollars roster basically is 1872 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:02,920 Speaker 2: set when they start. 1873 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 3: They get right into it right now. 1874 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 2: A lot of NFL rosters are not set, and they 1875 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 2: use the preseason to make their cuts and put guys 1876 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 2: on the so cooled taxi squad because they'll see their 1877 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,440 Speaker 2: play or lack thereof during the preseason. 1878 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 3: So They use that for evaluation. That's what they do. 1879 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean they do. 1880 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,600 Speaker 4: But if there's fifty three guys that are on the team, 1881 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 4: forty five have already been picked before we even stepped 1882 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 4: foot on training camp. 1883 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 1: That's the reality of it. Like you kind of know 1884 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: who your team is going in now. 1885 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,839 Speaker 4: They're a handful of spots that are up for grabs, 1886 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 4: and you leave one, two, three spots for some surprises. 1887 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 4: But your team is pretty much picked. Like even I 1888 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,519 Speaker 4: mean there could be seventy one hundred guys there. You 1889 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,600 Speaker 4: know who's pretty much on the squad because you have 1890 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,439 Speaker 4: them ink, you have them already down in pencil almost pin. 1891 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 4: Those other guys will wait and see you can get 1892 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,719 Speaker 4: a wait and see it what it looks waiting for injuries. 1893 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 3: They're waiting for injuries, will be traded, that's what they're 1894 01:24:59,080 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 3: waiting for. 1895 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 1: Yep, there you go. 1896 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 2: And now now it's time for the tire rack. Wait 1897 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 2: a minute, don't don't do it yet, because I want 1898 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 2: to introduce this now. And now it's time for the 1899 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 2: tire rack Player of the day because there's a very 1900 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 2: interesting voice in the play Listen carefully hit it. 1901 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 4: Holy smokes, I gotta shot he just kicked a setday year. 1902 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Crazy? 1903 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 6: I have crazy the NFL record, that would be an 1904 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 6: NFL record. 1905 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 1: In the first half. Holy smokes, that's unbelievable. 1906 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,760 Speaker 2: All right, Cam Little nit a seventy ard field goal 1907 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 2: in the first half in Jacksonville's preseason game against the 1908 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers at ever Banks Stadium Saturday night. 1909 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,040 Speaker 1: That was Bucky Brooks in the background. 1910 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't know who the play by play guy was, 1911 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: and I don't care buy Brooks. 1912 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Brian. I can't take the 1913 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 1: credit like he was the main one call. I'm just 1914 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: heard you. 1915 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 3: Everybody heard you. 1916 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 4: I was just providing the and he believed in it. 1917 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 4: I'll say this, Brian believed the entire time. 1918 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:09,680 Speaker 1: He's like, I was like, there's no way they're going 1919 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 1: to tempt this. 1920 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 4: He's like, oh no, he's been making him in practice 1921 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 4: and boop, there he goes right. 1922 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 1: That's why I was more. 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The I tire buying should be 1930 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 2: all right, let's get into this right now. 1931 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 3: But let's get it too Cam Little just a little bit. 1932 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 3: He's a kid. 1933 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 2: He's going to be twenty two years of age on 1934 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 2: the seventeenth of this month. He was a sixth round 1935 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 2: pick in the twenty fourth draft. He bypassed his senior 1936 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 2: year at Arkansas. And here's a stat pretty good stat too. 1937 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 2: He never missed an extra point when he was in college. 1938 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 2: Never missed an extra point. 1939 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with it. 1940 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 4: I got that. I like that. That's I mean. You 1941 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,720 Speaker 4: want to be money, you need you need someone who 1942 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,520 Speaker 4: is nails. 1943 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: He's nailed down. I get it. 1944 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 2: And they called Evan McPherson money mack. I think this 1945 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,920 Speaker 2: kid's got it all over McPherson right now. And I 1946 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 2: think what Cam Little has done right now. I think 1947 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,639 Speaker 2: he's gonna put a little pressure on other kickers. 1948 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see guys asking their coaching staff 1949 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 3: right now, at least in preseason, give me a shot, 1950 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 3: Give me a shot at sixty plus yards don't you 1951 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen. It's gonna be a game to 1952 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 3: see if they could do it too, don't you think? 1953 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think I think without question, you're gonna 1954 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 4: see more guys ask for those opportunities to go out 1955 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 4: there and nail those long kicks. 1956 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 1: It is going to be a thing. 1957 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,120 Speaker 2: And what an offensive weapon this becomes right now. Everybody 1958 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,960 Speaker 2: used to talk about Justin Tucker with the Baltimore Ravens. 1959 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, anytime they get with it, you know, 1960 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,839 Speaker 2: forty forty five to fifty yards, it's almost an automatic 1961 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 2: three points. It's an offensive weapon. Now Jacksonville has an 1962 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 2: offensive weapon. I mean, honestly, if they're like fourth and 1963 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 2: three on maybe the forty five yard line, whatever it 1964 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 2: may be, maybe in the fifty, they don't have to punt. 1965 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,320 Speaker 2: They gonna go for a field goal. 1966 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, it changes everything, like it changes 1967 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 1: the equation. I mean, it just it just changes everything. 1968 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 1: It is. 1969 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:20,160 Speaker 4: It's gonna be great to see how this impacts everybody. 1970 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, it changes. 1971 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,000 Speaker 4: It changes the math in terms of like what you 1972 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,160 Speaker 4: are lined to go, how many people are gonna be 1973 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 4: daring in bold to go after it. 1974 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:31,599 Speaker 1: I dig it though. I love it. 1975 01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 4: I love the fact that Kim was able to pull 1976 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 4: it off because it is something where in a competitive 1977 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 4: league you can see other kickers compete to see if 1978 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,519 Speaker 4: they can knock off similar things. 1979 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 2: And I'd like to know if somebody asked them the 1980 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,800 Speaker 2: question I'm gonna check you know on the internet today, 1981 01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 2: if they told to him after the game. Was it 1982 01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,720 Speaker 2: a situation that he went to the coach that coach 1983 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 2: I could make this, or the coach that give it 1984 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 2: a shot. 1985 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,719 Speaker 3: I want to know what happened on that play. 1986 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: They said there was a lot of communication. 1987 01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 4: No, there was communication between those guys asking Cam what 1988 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 4: you think about a camp saying hey, I want a 1989 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:02,840 Speaker 4: shot at it. Give me a shot at it. If 1990 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,760 Speaker 4: you can get it to the fifty. Uh, I'll go 1991 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 4: for it. And I mean to they credit preseasons game. 1992 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 4: Got very confident in his ability to know that they 1993 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 4: gave him a shot. 1994 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,680 Speaker 3: I love that, I really do. 1995 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to tell about coaches now, okay, because 1996 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,800 Speaker 2: you you play for some play for many actually you did. 1997 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 2: And when I see an NFL coach, I see sometimes 1998 01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 2: I see a wild man. Sometimes I see a guy 1999 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 2: with decorum. When I see a guy who kind of 2000 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 2: consider a gentleman. I think I'm off Levy. I think 2001 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,680 Speaker 2: of Tony Dungee, all right, true gentleman. Do you think 2002 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 2: of anybody else who maybe was maybe Bill Pushllos a gentleman? 2003 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 3: I don't know, would you consider him a gentleman? Coach? 2004 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 1: He's a little rough, he's a little gruff. I don't 2005 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,960 Speaker 1: know if I can say he's a gentleman. 2006 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:47,320 Speaker 4: He's a little rough. Sarcasm and yeah, Andy, Andy, would 2007 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,360 Speaker 4: any red would qualify? 2008 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 3: All right now? 2009 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 10: For sure? 2010 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,719 Speaker 3: Anybody else I'm not trying to think of man Pete, 2011 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll. 2012 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe Pete Carroll has some of that. What about 2013 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,559 Speaker 1: down Shula? I think down Shula? 2014 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,599 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know what I would tell 2015 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,559 Speaker 3: you right now. I was a PR guy for the 2016 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 3: four load of del Strikers, which was owned by Joe Robbie, 2017 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 3: when Don Shula was the coach, and I kind of 2018 01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,160 Speaker 3: helped out with the Dolphins a little bit. I used 2019 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,599 Speaker 3: to go to his news conferences. Oh my goodness, if 2020 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 3: you were. 2021 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 2: A media guy and you shut up late, he threw 2022 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 2: you out. People were afraid of Don Shuler. I can 2023 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,799 Speaker 2: imagine what the players were Oh my god, you couldn't talk. 2024 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 2: They were afraid to ask questions at his news conferences. 2025 01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 2: I mean it was unbelievable. I mean really, it was 2026 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 2: like almost like going to church, it really was. 2027 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 3: I mean I've seen him throw media people out at 2028 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 3: Monday news conferences because they came late. You can't come 2029 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,920 Speaker 3: on time, get out, and he threw him out. It 2030 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 3: was unreal. I don't think you'd ever see a Don 2031 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,679 Speaker 3: Shula coach do that again. I mean, it just never happened. 2032 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,880 Speaker 3: I don't even think Belichick would throw a guy out 2033 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,680 Speaker 3: if he was late. Things change, though, things are different now, 2034 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 3: but still, that was Don Shula really was. Now one 2035 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 3: of them we talked about these coaches. Could you see 2036 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 3: any of those guys do what doing? The Patriots coach 2037 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,599 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel did it practice the other day. He jumped 2038 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 3: into a pile of players of practice against the Washington Commanders. 2039 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 3: He came out with a bloody cheek. I mean, what 2040 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 3: is the purpose? 2041 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 2: I get it, you want to catch attention there? What's 2042 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 2: the upside of doing something like that? I mean there's 2043 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 2: gotta be some players saying, what's coach doing? What's what's 2044 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 2: going on here? 2045 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,599 Speaker 3: Right? Don't you think it's a little crazy. What would 2046 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,880 Speaker 3: you do if you saw your coach jump into and 2047 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,000 Speaker 3: do that? Really? 2048 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I appreciate Mike Rabel jumping in the fray 2049 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,560 Speaker 4: trying to break it up, but I have learned personally, 2050 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 4: the dog pile is not the place for the coach, 2051 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 4: and so if guys are fighting, you get away from 2052 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 4: him to get tired before you jump in there. You 2053 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 4: can't jump in there with their full throttle at the beginning. 2054 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,400 Speaker 4: Let them fight for a few moments and then you 2055 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,160 Speaker 4: can jump in. If you jump in there while they're full, 2056 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 4: like full throttle, yeah, you're gonna come away with a 2057 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,799 Speaker 4: little bloody head, bloody ear some of that other stuff. 2058 01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 3: I don't get what the point is. 2059 01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, all of a sudden, your guy Drake made 2060 01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,800 Speaker 2: a quarterback from North Carolina. 2061 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 3: He says, that's what we're trying. The building starts with 2062 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 3: the head. 2063 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:05,200 Speaker 2: Coach intensity, bringing it every day, taking no crap when 2064 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,880 Speaker 2: we're out there on the field. I mean, come on, 2065 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 2: the mentalities. I like it, that's what you want. But 2066 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,240 Speaker 2: then Vrabel comes out and he had an icebag on 2067 01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 2: his right cheek. Come on, really, I mean I think 2068 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. I mean, I get look, 2069 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 2: I guess that's the player in him, right, I mean 2070 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,400 Speaker 2: just the way he played and he coaches the same 2071 01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 2: way you. 2072 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,960 Speaker 3: Could coach with intensity. You have to jump into the 2073 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,720 Speaker 3: fray when you're a coach, right. I want to hear 2074 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 3: some stories from Bucky Brooks of some of the coaches. 2075 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,280 Speaker 3: Matt Brown wouldn't jump into a fray. There's no no 2076 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,639 Speaker 3: that in my mind when you were playing North Caroline, 2077 01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 3: Matt Brown would not. He's a gentleman. He would not 2078 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 3: jump into a fray. There's no doubt in my mind 2079 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 3: on that. 2080 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 4: Uh No, he absolutely wild not into it. I do 2081 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,000 Speaker 4: know that about Coach Brown. He's not jumping into it. 2082 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,520 Speaker 4: And he's gonna be upset with us for even engaging 2083 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,800 Speaker 4: in that conversation. He's always gonna talk about make sure 2084 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,320 Speaker 4: we have class take the higher road in those things. 2085 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,439 Speaker 4: But yeah, he wouldn't. He wouldn't get in it. 2086 01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,840 Speaker 3: No, what other coach I mean, I can't what coach 2087 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 3: would jump into a fray. I'm just trying to think 2088 01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,120 Speaker 3: one of the coaches of the National Football that would 2089 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:11,760 Speaker 3: jump in when. 2090 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,880 Speaker 4: The would jump in, I got guys that are the 2091 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:19,240 Speaker 4: guys that are okay with it. I get it sense 2092 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,160 Speaker 4: that like Mike Tomlin might kind of jump in a 2093 01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 4: little bit like that, he's okay with it being a 2094 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 4: little okay. 2095 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell for sure would be in he started, yeah, 2096 01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 1: like yeah, Dan. 2097 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 4: Campbell would absolutely get get with it, and he's okay 2098 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 4: with it. 2099 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,240 Speaker 1: Who else is a little half caught because you got 2100 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 1: to be half crazy to get in there, you know 2101 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 1: what I mean? 2102 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 2: Okay, but there's that like a guy what they consider 2103 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,160 Speaker 2: a players coaches, he now considered a players coach. 2104 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you played the game. Who 2105 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 3: wore the players coaches? 2106 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,439 Speaker 4: Nah? I mean, but there's a there's a level of 2107 01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,439 Speaker 4: respect that you have when guys kind of engaged. I 2108 01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 4: can see Jim Harboss kind of throwing a punch every 2109 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 4: now and then kind of get. 2110 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 3: He works that with the guys. I know that in 2111 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:04,800 Speaker 3: the weight room. 2112 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's some guys I don't know, But like, 2113 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 4: you don't want that to happen, right, You don't want 2114 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,160 Speaker 4: to fight, But if you're talking about the team and 2115 01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,720 Speaker 4: how the team is, well, then you got to jump in. 2116 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,000 Speaker 4: And I think Rabel in this past, I think Rabel 2117 01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 4: was a high school wrestler. Buddy Fickle was was a 2118 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,280 Speaker 4: wrestler like and you know, just a little skeleted. 2119 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,759 Speaker 3: You always want was undefeated as a wrestler. 2120 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you always want those guys to do it. 2121 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 3: Parcels with parcels jump in. 2122 01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 4: I mean, Big Tuna can't go in there. Big Tuna 2123 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 4: can't jump in there, man, Big Tuna. Big Tuna's hip 2124 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,080 Speaker 4: is all messed up. You can't put him in there, 2125 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:44,400 Speaker 4: like you. 2126 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 2: I can't think of another coach in the NFL that 2127 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,479 Speaker 2: would ever do this, really. I mean just I'm just 2128 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,679 Speaker 2: trying to picture top to bottom. I don't I don't 2129 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:56,720 Speaker 2: see anybody. I just uh going team by team. Denver, No, 2130 01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:57,679 Speaker 2: I don't. 2131 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:01,599 Speaker 3: Think so no in the city, No, Cleveland, I don't. 2132 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 3: I don't see any coach doing Stefanski. Maybe maybe he 2133 01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 3: could be that kind of guy. 2134 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,320 Speaker 1: He's not jumping in he's a league guy. He ain't 2135 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 1: jumping in the fray. 2136 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 3: I thought he's away, No, okay, all right, just checking 2137 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:14,000 Speaker 3: him out, all. 2138 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 1: Right, he's not jumping in that. Man. Some people want 2139 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 1: to smoke. He doesn't want to smoke like that. 2140 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,719 Speaker 2: All right, So we got one guy. One coach rushing 2141 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,080 Speaker 2: on the field for action. And then we go to 2142 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,880 Speaker 2: the other extreme one hundred eighty degrees. One player wants 2143 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,599 Speaker 2: less reps in practice? Are you kidding me? Why receive 2144 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 2: the elite neighbors of the Giants? He didn't practice on Wednesday? 2145 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,360 Speaker 2: He said, it's part of the process. 2146 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 1: Come on, really, I mean you just press? 2147 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,880 Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Now did 2148 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,720 Speaker 4: he say that he didn't want to press or the 2149 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,800 Speaker 4: Giants restricted him from practice because there's a. 2150 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,719 Speaker 3: But he used the term process, the process. 2151 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,439 Speaker 1: He yeah, but that process? Yeah, but that process? 2152 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,479 Speaker 4: Is that process a Giants mandated process or one that 2153 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 4: he initiated? Because I can tell you this, I'll tell 2154 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,479 Speaker 4: you this and doing the Travis Hunter thing, and I 2155 01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 4: was surprised by this, and I don't think this is 2156 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 4: inside of trading and given secrets. The Jaguars have a 2157 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,320 Speaker 4: coach that signed the Travis Hunter in game right because 2158 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,959 Speaker 4: he's playing offense and defense. 2159 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,840 Speaker 1: But they always they also have. 2160 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 4: Somewhat upstairs monitoring the data in the GPS analytics stuff, 2161 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 4: and some programs are using sports science where if the 2162 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 4: workload is too hard on one day, they cut it 2163 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,200 Speaker 4: back the next day as they're trying to build a 2164 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,800 Speaker 4: plan that allows the guys to have adequate rest and 2165 01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,799 Speaker 4: recovery to compete at an optimal level. 2166 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 1: What it sounds like is. 2167 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:40,160 Speaker 4: Maybe the Giants are tracking Molik Neighbors over the course 2168 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 4: of practice in those days in which he's running too much. 2169 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,760 Speaker 4: They want to make sure that they don't overload him 2170 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,800 Speaker 4: because when they're overloaded, that's when the injuries happen. So 2171 01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,599 Speaker 4: maybe it's the Giants putting him on restriction as opposed 2172 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 4: to Melik Neighbors saying, Oh, I work too hard, I 2173 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:54,920 Speaker 4: need to sit out. 2174 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,160 Speaker 3: You know what, you got something there, because now I'm 2175 01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,160 Speaker 3: reading what it said. I got the quotes over here. 2176 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,000 Speaker 2: He set out the in the spring because of a 2177 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 2: toe problem. He left practice earlier this summer when he 2178 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 2: landed on his shoulder. But he's been out of practice 2179 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 2: every day at training camp, including the first day of 2180 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,040 Speaker 2: practice this past Wednesday. 2181 01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,439 Speaker 3: And here's the quarters do. 2182 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 2: We find the coaches and the training staff have this process. 2183 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,599 Speaker 3: I think you're onto something here. I think you got it. 2184 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,479 Speaker 3: The coaches and training staff have this process that they 2185 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,720 Speaker 3: want me to do. They want me to have this 2186 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,799 Speaker 3: to be healthy. When we're ready to play. 2187 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,960 Speaker 2: This is what he said at the practice on Wednesday. 2188 01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:33,880 Speaker 2: So I just have to do my job and follow 2189 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 2: the plan that they put in here. It's part of 2190 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,759 Speaker 2: the plan, all right. So I think you're onto something. 2191 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,040 Speaker 2: I think you got it. But again, this is where 2192 01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,439 Speaker 2: the media could throw stuff out there in kind of 2193 01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 2: a backwards sort of way, and it's interpreted it differently. 2194 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,760 Speaker 2: And I read it the way I read it, I thought, like, 2195 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to practice, he doesn't want to take reps. 2196 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 2: I think you kind of put me on the straight 2197 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,439 Speaker 2: and arrow over here. But this is what starts the 2198 01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,160 Speaker 2: viral garbage on social media and everybody's down on a 2199 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,759 Speaker 2: guy like Malik Neighbors, who's a pretty good receiver. 2200 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:04,800 Speaker 3: That's it. 2201 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 2: The process was not his, it's the team's process. They 2202 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 2: want him on that. 2203 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the team wants him on that restrictive process to 2204 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,320 Speaker 4: be able to see if make sure he's healthy and 2205 01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:22,960 Speaker 4: ready to go. Uh, you know, I understand it. Give 2206 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 4: me a little weird, but I certainly understand why they 2207 01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 4: would do that. 2208 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:26,120 Speaker 1: Right. 2209 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,559 Speaker 2: I know, all of a sudden, now, if Malik was here, 2210 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 2: I'll apologize because I thought it was like he's saying 2211 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to practice anymore. I said, you got 2212 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 2: to give me a. 2213 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:35,519 Speaker 3: Break, And I get it. 2214 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 2: He had a great year list He got over one 2215 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,120 Speaker 2: hundred passes, over twelve hundred yards, had seven touchdowns in 2216 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,680 Speaker 2: his first year as a rookie and it was all 2217 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,599 Speaker 2: pro I mean, he had a heck of a year. 2218 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,960 Speaker 2: So I think that basically the Giants want to handle 2219 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,679 Speaker 2: him with kid clothes because he had a couple. 2220 01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,879 Speaker 3: Of injuries banged up with the toe and the shoulder. 2221 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,679 Speaker 2: So this is a process that the Giants and their 2222 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 2: coaching still put them on. And it should have been 2223 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,920 Speaker 2: written that way, and the way I read it and 2224 01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:00,760 Speaker 2: the way it was written it steam I'm like, well, 2225 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, I don't need to practice. I'm not taking 2226 01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 2: reps anymore. I'm cutting back. 2227 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:09,080 Speaker 3: No, it's not that it's the Giant's not him, all right, Yeah, 2228 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:11,439 Speaker 3: I apologize Malik. 2229 01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:15,840 Speaker 2: I apologize. Really, I don't want to close the problems 2230 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:17,960 Speaker 2: with Malik. I really don't. There we go, so we'll 2231 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,760 Speaker 2: see what happens there and it's gonna be playing I 2232 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 2: guess next Saturday when they play the Jets. So that's 2233 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,760 Speaker 2: part of the process, and that's basically what it is, 2234 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 2: all right, now I would say this, shortly after our show, 2235 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,200 Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. Yes, if you missed 2236 01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,200 Speaker 2: any of the show today, be sure to check out 2237 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Ready wherever you get 2238 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,360 Speaker 2: your podcasts, and be sure to follow and review review. 2239 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,680 Speaker 2: The podcast rated the number five five stars. Again, just 2240 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,920 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Ready wherever you get your podcasts, and 2241 01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,760 Speaker 2: you'll see today's show posted right after we get off 2242 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,519 Speaker 2: the air. All right, Bucky Brooks at Bucket Brooks on 2243 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,519 Speaker 2: X at Andy Furman FSR eight seven seven ninety nine 2244 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,880 Speaker 2: on Fox that's our number eight seven seven nine nine 2245 01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,439 Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine. And of course we're going 2246 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,240 Speaker 2: to have the blame Game coming up at the end 2247 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 2: of this hour. But right now, right now, he's number four, 2248 01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:18,800 Speaker 2: and he's not happy that's next. All right, It's only 2249 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,560 Speaker 2: a game, right, we'll we'll get to that in just 2250 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 2: about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and 2251 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 2: we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We're 2252 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 2: going to have the blame Game in about I say, 2253 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,360 Speaker 2: ten or twelve minutes from now. And we got into 2254 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 2: this conversation about Mike Vrabel, the coach of the New 2255 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,240 Speaker 2: England Patriots who jumped into the fray at practice came 2256 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,960 Speaker 2: out with a bloody cheek. And we're trying to figure out, 2257 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 2: like which coaches may in fact jump into a. 2258 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:42,920 Speaker 3: Fray like that. 2259 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,760 Speaker 2: And our guy Magic Mark wants to ask Bucky a 2260 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 2: question because he thinks he has the coach. 2261 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 3: Right, Mark, you think you. 2262 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 11: Got the guy, So Bucky, what about Demico Ryans? 2263 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh Man, Demiko? 2264 01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,640 Speaker 4: You know what, Demiko is a nice guy, but he 2265 01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,599 Speaker 4: is the switch that he'll flip, so he he probably 2266 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:05,080 Speaker 4: would jump in there. He probably would jump in bingo. 2267 01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:09,240 Speaker 11: So I'm thinking about other coaches who either still still 2268 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,280 Speaker 11: working or not working. What about Doug Peterson? You think 2269 01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:13,360 Speaker 11: he would have jump in a pile? 2270 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,800 Speaker 1: No, No, he wouldn't. 2271 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 11: Jump in Mike Tomlin would he jump in a pile? 2272 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:18,520 Speaker 3: He said? 2273 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,960 Speaker 4: I said, I said, I'm thinking about But then I'm 2274 01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,840 Speaker 4: thinking Mike Tom's a little older now, so he might 2275 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,880 Speaker 4: not be as as willing to kind of engage in 2276 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,080 Speaker 4: some of those activities. 2277 01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 11: What her Edwards have jumped in? 2278 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,559 Speaker 4: Absolutely not Herb's not going in there. Her would be yelling, 2279 01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,639 Speaker 4: but he ain't jumping in the fray. 2280 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,160 Speaker 3: Okay, no more. I got a couple Okay, I gotta 2281 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm thinking that. 2282 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:43,840 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, No, Todd's not gonna jump in. Tod's gonna 2283 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:44,479 Speaker 1: be yelling at the guys. 2284 01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 3: This guy would definitely jump in. 2285 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Brian Daboll, what's he gonna jump in? Why you see 2286 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,679 Speaker 1: Dave Ball's gonna jump in? What's Dave's gonna do? He's 2287 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,479 Speaker 1: not big, he lost some weight. 2288 01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,400 Speaker 4: He's skinning there. He wears ray bands on game day. 2289 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 4: He's not up and in the fight. Antonio Pearce, Yeah, 2290 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,360 Speaker 4: a P would A P would jump in a A 2291 01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:20,240 Speaker 4: oh everything, keep it going. Raheem Morris, I don't think 2292 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,880 Speaker 4: Raheem would jump in like that. Like he might be 2293 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:24,760 Speaker 4: on the perimeter, but I don't think he's gonna jump 2294 01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:25,240 Speaker 4: all the way in. 2295 01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 5: I got one. Mike McDonald Seahawks, Hell, No, I don't know. 2296 01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2297 01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:35,240 Speaker 4: You know he military background, he does, right, he's been 2298 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,760 Speaker 4: lifting weights. He looked like he's been he's been lifting weights. 2299 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 4: He might want to kind of get in their flexible. 2300 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,240 Speaker 5: He's got a scowl on him. Sometimes he looked tough. 2301 01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:48,160 Speaker 4: I think, so, yeah, he gets he just looked just lookin. 2302 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,360 Speaker 5: He's biting kneecaps. So I'm gonna say. 2303 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,160 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell, Dan Quinn, I don't know, but you know 2304 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:57,000 Speaker 4: who you're missing, Sean McDermott. 2305 01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,600 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott might jump you know. 2306 01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,599 Speaker 4: He a little wrestler guy like he little like yeah, 2307 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:04,200 Speaker 4: like the little wrestlers. 2308 01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:05,240 Speaker 1: I've just known from my. 2309 01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,479 Speaker 4: College experience in bars now that I don't get ever 2310 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,560 Speaker 4: engaged in a bar fight. But wrestlers are okay with 2311 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:12,439 Speaker 4: sparkling it up every now and then. 2312 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,479 Speaker 11: Do we already say the coach who's got a bald 2313 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,960 Speaker 11: head who used to be the coach of the Jets, 2314 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 11: and he was a San Francisco coach? 2315 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh, Robert sala Yeah, yeah, Robert Robert Salad defense. He 2316 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,360 Speaker 1: ain't jumping in. He you know what I mean? 2317 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 2: He jumping If Forty Johnson was in the poll in 2318 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:32,479 Speaker 2: the in the pile, he jumping in. 2319 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,960 Speaker 4: He was chose playing Woody Johnson, he probably chose laying 2320 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:37,320 Speaker 4: Woody Johnson and Aaron Rodgers. 2321 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 3: There you go, all right, I got I got some 2322 01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:41,280 Speaker 3: information here. 2323 01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,559 Speaker 2: I don't know why I want to run this by you. 2324 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,599 Speaker 2: You talk about I said, is it only a game? 2325 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:46,000 Speaker 3: All right? 2326 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,559 Speaker 2: And we talk about Madden NFL twenty six. I never 2327 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:50,040 Speaker 2: played it? 2328 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 3: Have you? 2329 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:54,760 Speaker 1: Is anybody here ever played Madden? Did you do you play? Oh? 2330 01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm a Madden player? He doesn't love Madden? 2331 01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:57,679 Speaker 3: Really? 2332 01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,000 Speaker 1: Who doesn't love Madden? Yeah? I love Madden? Really? 2333 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,840 Speaker 3: I just yeah, really, well, I mean, I mean, what 2334 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:05,920 Speaker 3: realistic is it? Is it that good? 2335 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's real game, and it's gaming. You get 2336 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 1: a chance to compete. 2337 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,519 Speaker 4: I mean, but I've been playing it since it first 2338 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,720 Speaker 4: came out, like way back on Sega Genesis, so I've 2339 01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,519 Speaker 4: always it's always been a part of the daily the 2340 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 4: daily plan. 2341 01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,720 Speaker 3: So how many NFL players play this? I mean how 2342 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:21,559 Speaker 3: much stock do they be? 2343 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,000 Speaker 4: All of pretty much all of them, like the majority 2344 01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:27,439 Speaker 4: of the majority of them. 2345 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, because the big deal is to get your your. 2346 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 4: Rating, and if you're one of those who's good enough 2347 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,479 Speaker 4: to get in the ninety nine club, you get the 2348 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,519 Speaker 4: ninety nine ice chain all that. 2349 01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:37,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big deal. 2350 01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,240 Speaker 2: Well, Patrick Mahomes is the fourth rated quarterback in this 2351 01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,680 Speaker 2: year's game, and he got a ninety five, And the 2352 01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 2: ratings went like this, Josh Allen a quarterback number one, 2353 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:47,719 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow. 2354 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,320 Speaker 3: So I got to ask, how are these players rated? 2355 01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,680 Speaker 4: I mean, like just same thing, like a like they 2356 01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 4: have a scouting thing. They'll lean into some scouts and 2357 01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:01,920 Speaker 4: stuff I've participated in in the in it in the past. Yeah, 2358 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,240 Speaker 4: they have guys that are ratings gurused. I mean they 2359 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:10,080 Speaker 4: treated just like you would scouting a team in real life. 2360 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:15,120 Speaker 4: And when you talk about Pat Mahomes being fourth, he 2361 01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:16,920 Speaker 4: may not like that, but he is. 2362 01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,759 Speaker 2: He didn't like he was quoting. So I like playing Madden. 2363 01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:21,280 Speaker 2: I'd like to have been rated higher. 2364 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 3: He says, forget this, I got to play and showcase 2365 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,040 Speaker 3: that stuff on the field. I believe I go out 2366 01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:27,640 Speaker 3: there and play the football I want to play. We 2367 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 3: can get to a ninety nine. 2368 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:30,680 Speaker 2: He's more concerned about getting to a ninety nine and 2369 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:31,880 Speaker 2: getting back to the super Bowl. 2370 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. I didn't think Madden was not big of 2371 01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:34,439 Speaker 3: a deal. 2372 01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,480 Speaker 1: It is a big deal because he's been disrespected. 2373 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,640 Speaker 4: In essence, they said he's the fourth best quarterback, and 2374 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,799 Speaker 4: I think we all can agree that the mount rushmore 2375 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 4: quarterbacks right now are those four names that you talked about, 2376 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,200 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow and Pat Mahomes. But 2377 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,439 Speaker 4: it's probably the first time that we have Pat Mahomes 2378 01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 4: as the caboose. He's the last member of that and 2379 01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 4: he's not a ninety nine. I could see that being 2380 01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,719 Speaker 4: disrespectful from someone who's accomplished as much. 2381 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,720 Speaker 1: As he had. But let's let's be honest, Andy, he 2382 01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't played. 2383 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,719 Speaker 4: He didn't play like a ninety nine last year. Their 2384 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,519 Speaker 4: offense isn't fun. It's not fun. We want to make 2385 01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,360 Speaker 4: the offense fun again. How can you made the Chiefs 2386 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:15,800 Speaker 4: fun again? 2387 01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2388 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 2: But he did say, also on the heels of that remark, 2389 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,400 Speaker 2: he's not going to be bringing his own smelling souls 2390 01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:23,320 Speaker 2: to games this year. 2391 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,120 Speaker 3: We talked about so that's good. But he doesn't get 2392 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,080 Speaker 3: hit that much. He says he likes to get hit once. 2393 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 3: He didn't get hit yesterday. He wanted to get hit 2394 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,240 Speaker 3: once just to get get back into it, he says. 2395 01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,360 Speaker 3: He said, I'm not a big smelling soul kind of guy, 2396 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,080 Speaker 3: so I'm not really hitting people. Though I know people 2397 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:41,280 Speaker 3: use those enough for bad reasons. He's a good guy. 2398 01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,240 Speaker 2: I don't know Patrick Mahomes from Adam. Do you know 2399 01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 2: him personally? Have you talked to him? 2400 01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:47,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, like going all the way back to when he 2401 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,240 Speaker 4: was coming out of Texas Tech. He came on the 2402 01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:54,519 Speaker 4: podcast a few times. He's great. I've met him a 2403 01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 4: few other times. He was a major sponsor contributor to 2404 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,280 Speaker 4: Black College Hall of Fame, the Legacy Bowl that has 2405 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,680 Speaker 4: played every year annually in New Orleans in February. He 2406 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,439 Speaker 4: was a big behind the scenes contributed to that. So yeah, 2407 01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 4: he's been around. 2408 01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:09,719 Speaker 1: A few times. 2409 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:11,960 Speaker 4: Love what he does and who he is and what 2410 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 4: he represents. 2411 01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,360 Speaker 2: He seems like a wonderful, good natured guy. And after 2412 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,559 Speaker 2: a loss he'll go over to the opposing quarterback on Huggum. 2413 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,160 Speaker 2: I've always seen that on the field. I mean, he's 2414 01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,519 Speaker 2: just a good guy and I like him. He's probably 2415 01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,639 Speaker 2: never disrespectful to media. He's probably always available. I'm sure 2416 01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,680 Speaker 2: he is right. But if we were on at a 2417 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,320 Speaker 2: different hour and not on a Sunday on a game day, 2418 01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,160 Speaker 2: I bet that he'd come on the radio with us. 2419 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if he would come on the radio. 2420 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,000 Speaker 4: But he's a good guy. I'll say he's a good guy. 2421 01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:42,559 Speaker 4: He'll do those things. He is about it. I think 2422 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,080 Speaker 4: the one thing about him which is why he's so 2423 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:49,840 Speaker 4: great is his relatability with so many different people. While 2424 01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,360 Speaker 4: also having and displaying superstar talent. 2425 01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:53,520 Speaker 1: He's unique. 2426 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,639 Speaker 3: And you talk about superstar potential legends and the mount 2427 01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:00,000 Speaker 3: rushmore like, let'll talk about quarterbacks. Let's talk about Tom Brady, 2428 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,880 Speaker 3: you know, and the Patriots on Tom Brady statue. Yeah 2429 01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,840 Speaker 3: outside of you Let Stadium, twelve foot statue at you 2430 01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:07,439 Speaker 3: Let Stadium. 2431 01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 2: You know what I say, shame on you. Where the 2432 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 2: hell is Bill Belichick? They should have been together. There 2433 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,880 Speaker 2: should have been Belichick and Brady. They won those super 2434 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,840 Speaker 2: Bowls together, and it bothers me. And you know that 2435 01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 2: Robert Kraft did it to spite Belichick and didn't put 2436 01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 2: Belichick on it. Belichick should have a statue. He should 2437 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 2: be there with Brady. Don't you agree? You've got to 2438 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:30,800 Speaker 2: agree to that. 2439 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean whatever it is, man. 2440 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, Thomson Rifford, Captain America, seven rings, six of 2441 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:40,600 Speaker 4: those with the Patriots. 2442 01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 2: I mean that Belichick got the same amount of rings 2443 01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:44,320 Speaker 2: of the Patriots with him. 2444 01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:45,240 Speaker 3: He was his coach. 2445 01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,960 Speaker 4: He did, but then they fell off so bad poorly 2446 01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 4: at the end, they just fell off. I mean, I 2447 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,240 Speaker 4: understand Tom Brady going in first. I mean, now that 2448 01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,680 Speaker 4: statue was huge. The only thing about the statue I 2449 01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 4: felt like the head was a little disproportionate. 2450 01:48:59,479 --> 01:48:59,920 Speaker 1: To the bike. 2451 01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:01,960 Speaker 3: It look like him, I don't think. 2452 01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:03,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard. 2453 01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:05,920 Speaker 4: It's hard to it's hard to make a statue look 2454 01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:09,439 Speaker 4: like the person. Oh, one day, when I get a 2455 01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,000 Speaker 4: statue wherever that statue is, maybe a Fox Sports we 2456 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:14,760 Speaker 4: get Fox Sports. Ready, we get a little statue. Oh, 2457 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,080 Speaker 4: this statue is fairly it's fairly accurate. 2458 01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Fox Sports Hall of Fame. What are the qualifications? 2459 01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 3: It is important? Now, what are the qualifications for a statue? 2460 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,639 Speaker 3: I mean, how many years must you be with one 2461 01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,800 Speaker 3: team to qualify for a statue? Right? 2462 01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,559 Speaker 2: Does Brady get a statue in Tampa? He won a 2463 01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 2: Super Bowl in Tampa, then he put a statue up there. 2464 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,000 Speaker 4: He should he should get a little statue. It doesn't 2465 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,639 Speaker 4: have to be as big as the one in New England. 2466 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,880 Speaker 4: But maybe a little mini that kind of hangs out 2467 01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,240 Speaker 4: in the garden. I'm sure there's a beer garden somewhere, 2468 01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 4: like they can put like a little mini Tom Brady's statue. 2469 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,680 Speaker 4: He won a super Bowl one year, I mean, like 2470 01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,439 Speaker 4: he was there. They want it. I would be okay 2471 01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:52,320 Speaker 4: with him be in the statue. I think the qualifications 2472 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:56,120 Speaker 4: are you have to be great and unquestioning greatness and excellence, 2473 01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:58,240 Speaker 4: and you're played with that team but for. 2474 01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,880 Speaker 3: More than one year, right, I mean Aaron Rodgers should 2475 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:03,720 Speaker 3: get a statue in Green Bay. He won a Super 2476 01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,679 Speaker 3: Bowl there and he played for several years now, right. 2477 01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can give a set. 2478 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,479 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of Aaron. Look I'm not, 2479 01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,680 Speaker 2: but you gotta respect what he did, what he accomplished. 2480 01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:12,840 Speaker 1: I do. 2481 01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 4: But the Okay, I'm gonna tell you what they would 2482 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,439 Speaker 4: tell you when you walk in the building. There's been 2483 01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,479 Speaker 4: a lot of great players that have won that uniform. 2484 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,479 Speaker 4: Paul Horning, I mean RAYNIZI I mean Forrest Gred, I 2485 01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:26,040 Speaker 4: mean there are a lot a lot of a lot 2486 01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 4: of bart Starr bred Far I mean Reggie White. There 2487 01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,280 Speaker 4: are a lot of great players. And he's a great player, 2488 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:33,680 Speaker 4: so he can put his name up in the thing 2489 01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:39,680 Speaker 4: he is, but a statue in title town. Listen to 2490 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,000 Speaker 4: that title town where you have to win titles. 2491 01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:46,639 Speaker 1: For the town. He won one. One, he won one. 2492 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 1: He won one. 2493 01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:51,040 Speaker 3: So here's the deal. Then, does Eli Manning get a 2494 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,439 Speaker 3: statue in New York? He won two. 2495 01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,560 Speaker 4: I mean he'll get one because he's beloved by that 2496 01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,000 Speaker 4: franchise and that stuff. 2497 01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 1: Like he can get it. 2498 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,120 Speaker 4: But the qualifications are different for the Giants in the Packers. 2499 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 3: What are you saying the Packers have a highest standard? 2500 01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,040 Speaker 3: Is that it player? 2501 01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, like everything in Green Bay goes 2502 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:16,400 Speaker 4: back to the days of Lombardi, right, And do they have. 2503 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,720 Speaker 3: A statue of Lombardi at Lambeau? I don't know. I've 2504 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:19,559 Speaker 3: never been to Lambo. 2505 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,439 Speaker 4: I think on the back corner, like there there is one. Yeah, 2506 01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,280 Speaker 4: because I've taken a picture with it. Yeah, there's a 2507 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,280 Speaker 4: there's a statue of Vince Lombardi there, Like you got 2508 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:33,000 Speaker 4: to be a that statue to get a to get 2509 01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 4: a statue in Green Bay. I don't think Aaron Rodgers, 2510 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:39,800 Speaker 4: despite his full time MVP status is one time Super 2511 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,320 Speaker 4: Bowl champion status. I don't think he's going to reach 2512 01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:46,479 Speaker 4: the level of Vince Lombardi in that. But far doesn't 2513 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:47,120 Speaker 4: even have a statue. 2514 01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I would say this, and maybe I'm mistaken. 2515 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,479 Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, they didn't hand out 2516 01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 2: statues like they're handing out pieces of chewing gum like 2517 01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,600 Speaker 2: they're doing now statues right now? Is that they're a 2518 01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,400 Speaker 2: diamond does Isn't it true? That seems like everybody who's 2519 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,840 Speaker 2: done something that's getting a statue and you have to 2520 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 2: play for a team for X amount of years to qualify. Now, 2521 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,479 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Cincinnati because I live in the Cincinnati market. 2522 01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,479 Speaker 2: Marty Brenneman is a Hall of Fame announcer. Right announced 2523 01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,360 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds for forty six freaking years. 2524 01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,479 Speaker 3: He got a statue. You got a statue in front 2525 01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 3: of the ballpark, which I think is deserving. 2526 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,879 Speaker 2: I mean, he brought a lot of enjoyment and pleasure 2527 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,479 Speaker 2: to people in fans and promoted the team for years 2528 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,640 Speaker 2: forty six years, okay, and people kind of followed the 2529 01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 2: Reds thanks to him, thanks to him. So I have 2530 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 2: no problem with Marty Burnman getting a statue. But you know, 2531 01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 2: how do you qualify someone getting a statue? 2532 01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,360 Speaker 3: Right? I just I don't know. 2533 01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to do you have to get 2534 01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:42,280 Speaker 1: a trend? 2535 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to be a transcendent member 2536 01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:49,320 Speaker 4: of the franchise in whatever capacity, meaning that your name 2537 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,040 Speaker 4: is anonymous with that franchise, and it's anonymous with that 2538 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:55,760 Speaker 4: franchise with. 2539 01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,839 Speaker 1: The excellence in your role or your duty. 2540 01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:03,919 Speaker 4: So when you talk about Marty Brenneman getting the statue, 2541 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:05,080 Speaker 4: I can understand. 2542 01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,400 Speaker 3: The Carolina guy. By the way, North Carolina. 2543 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,200 Speaker 1: Marty Brennan I did not know he was a target big. 2544 01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:11,840 Speaker 3: He went there and he's a big fan. 2545 01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,439 Speaker 4: Okay, So we talked about him being synonymous with that 2546 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:17,439 Speaker 4: team in that franchise. 2547 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:18,400 Speaker 1: I understand that. 2548 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,960 Speaker 4: Who is the guy that was the longtime voice of 2549 01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:27,400 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers, Marion Cope, Maron Cole. Yes, okay, So 2550 01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,240 Speaker 4: he would be one where you have like the bronze 2551 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 4: microphone that you would put up. 2552 01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,240 Speaker 1: But it has to be someone that is legendary like that. 2553 01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,040 Speaker 4: We don't want to just pass out statues where they're 2554 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:39,639 Speaker 4: like trophies where everyone gets one. 2555 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:44,439 Speaker 1: There has to be some special accomplishments. Uh, they go 2556 01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:45,080 Speaker 1: along with it. 2557 01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what bothers me. 2558 01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:50,519 Speaker 2: I've written several letters to city councilmen and the mayors 2559 01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,759 Speaker 2: of since they want to say mayors are different terms 2560 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,919 Speaker 2: of different mayors to get a street named after Oscar Robertson, 2561 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:56,880 Speaker 2: And I'm still waiting. 2562 01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:57,200 Speaker 1: Now. 2563 01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,479 Speaker 3: They do have a statue in front of the arena 2564 01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:01,880 Speaker 3: of the big O. But you got to get in now. 2565 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 3: Pete Rose has a street named after him. I need 2566 01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,919 Speaker 3: a street named after the big old Oscar Robertson before 2567 01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,919 Speaker 3: he passes. He's eighty four years old, before he passes. 2568 01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,920 Speaker 2: I want to see a street in Cincinnati called Oscar 2569 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:15,760 Speaker 2: Robertson Way. 2570 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:17,640 Speaker 3: I want to see it. He deserves it. 2571 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,840 Speaker 1: Look, Oscar Robinson is a legend. 2572 01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,200 Speaker 4: Now we're gonna put it in Cincinnati because of the 2573 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 4: work that he did with was Cincinnati Royals. Is that 2574 01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,560 Speaker 4: that's what we played with? Yeah, like that's what we 2575 01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:34,040 Speaker 4: want to I mean, I mean, I'm okay. Now it's 2576 01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:35,960 Speaker 4: been a minute. If they're going to give him a statue, 2577 01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:37,840 Speaker 4: they probably should't give him statue of a while ago. 2578 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:42,160 Speaker 4: But I understand he is deserving of it. I just 2579 01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:44,840 Speaker 4: probably would have preferred them to give it to him 2580 01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,560 Speaker 4: sooner rather than later, you know, right. 2581 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,919 Speaker 2: And I find something very foolish at times when players 2582 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,080 Speaker 2: are in national halls of fame before they're in their 2583 01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,120 Speaker 2: own colleges hall of fame. 2584 01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:00,360 Speaker 3: I see some like that. 2585 01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:05,440 Speaker 4: Before, before before the university. So right, I think in 2586 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 4: North Carolina, Yeah. 2587 01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Sandy Colfax was in Cooperstown before he 2588 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,960 Speaker 2: was in the University of Cincinnati Hall of Fame. I 2589 01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,120 Speaker 2: maybe you certainly had a great career as a pro 2590 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,240 Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, maybe better a career as a pro 2591 01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:19,960 Speaker 2: than he did as a college player. 2592 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:21,200 Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I don't know. 2593 01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something, Yeah, there's something to that part of it, 2594 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,000 Speaker 4: you know, like there there is that. But like for instance, 2595 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,120 Speaker 4: at North Carolina, you talk about being in the Hall 2596 01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:35,040 Speaker 4: of Fame or whatever, but for instance the basketball team, man, 2597 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,200 Speaker 4: I think you had to be a unanimous All American 2598 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:42,440 Speaker 4: or Wooden Player the Year award winner to have your 2599 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:44,960 Speaker 4: your jersey go up in the rafters like it's a high, 2600 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:51,040 Speaker 4: like high levels of accolades, significant accolades before you can 2601 01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,560 Speaker 4: go to Just don't slap anybody's name and number up 2602 01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 4: in the rafters, just like the Hall of Fame status. 2603 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,000 Speaker 3: Now. 2604 01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:01,040 Speaker 4: I mean, look, you got your guys, Jordan and like 2605 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,720 Speaker 4: Sam Perkins, James Worthy, you have the old guys. Uh 2606 01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:06,680 Speaker 4: they used to be in there, the legends, they are 2607 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 4: all in there. But you have to be do You 2608 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:10,400 Speaker 4: have to be a notable player to get up in there. 2609 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:11,560 Speaker 4: And I think that's how it should be. It should 2610 01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:12,480 Speaker 4: be an exclusive club. 2611 01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm with you right there, Bucket Brooks. 2612 01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,480 Speaker 2: He's exclusive right here every Sunday on Andy fermanwee a 2613 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:18,960 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox. 2614 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,160 Speaker 3: Spitt's ready, Okay, okay, don't hold back. Who did it? 2615 01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:26,400 Speaker 2: The blame game is freaking next. All right, the blame 2616 01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 2: game coming right up. He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman. 2617 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,560 Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio live 2618 01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:33,080 Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 2619 01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:36,080 Speaker 1: And remember about eleven minutes. 2620 01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:37,200 Speaker 2: From now, which would be the top of the hour, 2621 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,720 Speaker 2: which is nine am in the East Coast Countdown with 2622 01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:45,440 Speaker 2: Brian No No, Brian No, Jeff Schwartz Schwartze, and Bill Krapnenberg. 2623 01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,640 Speaker 3: But right now it's time for the blame game. 2624 01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,800 Speaker 1: You ruin me. It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. 2625 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,360 Speaker 3: Bring them all your fault. 2626 01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:02,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's fault. She's a liar. That's why there's 2627 01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:06,360 Speaker 1: the blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah, 2628 01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:07,080 Speaker 1: he's a liar. 2629 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:07,640 Speaker 8: Here he is? 2630 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 1: God, Hey, little dates are you baby? 2631 01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 10: All right? I've been truthful all day today. But fine, fine, 2632 01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,760 Speaker 10: blame me for that one. So I got one for 2633 01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:22,080 Speaker 10: us today. So yesterday was the Cowboys had a preseason 2634 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:26,000 Speaker 10: game on the sidelines, not playing with Ceedee Lamb. Well, 2635 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:30,200 Speaker 10: a funny thing occurred here. A ref ran and shrucked 2636 01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 10: Ceedee Lamb from behind, and it was really really funny. 2637 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:34,480 Speaker 10: They got it on camera. 2638 01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:35,920 Speaker 1: Who do you blame for that? 2639 01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:36,440 Speaker 8: Andy? 2640 01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:38,960 Speaker 2: I blame ce D Lamb because the ref probably didn't 2641 01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:41,480 Speaker 2: like him. I'm sure CD mit Lamb probably gave him 2642 01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:43,520 Speaker 2: the bird one time during a game last year, so 2643 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,040 Speaker 2: you got a shot to get him back. 2644 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:45,920 Speaker 3: That's what it was. 2645 01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,440 Speaker 2: That's why I blame Cee D. Lamb's his fault. Get 2646 01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:51,800 Speaker 2: out of the way. You know the guy doesn't like it. 2647 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:52,560 Speaker 2: Get out of the way. 2648 01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, look at Ceedee Lambs for he has to be 2649 01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,320 Speaker 4: aware on the field where he's at. He can't, he 2650 01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,240 Speaker 4: can't be in the action, so he has to get 2651 01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,200 Speaker 4: up the way. Refere he's not looking at him, nor 2652 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,000 Speaker 4: should he be looking for him. 2653 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:06,440 Speaker 1: So that's cd lamps fault. 2654 01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:07,600 Speaker 3: You know what, It's true. 2655 01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,560 Speaker 2: We guess that watching the Vikings game, justin Jefferson's doing 2656 01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:12,800 Speaker 2: the broadcast with the guy on the field, he had 2657 01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:13,640 Speaker 2: no idea what's going on. 2658 01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:14,480 Speaker 3: On the field. 2659 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,440 Speaker 2: He's told that the guy opened the booth his rate 2660 01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,200 Speaker 2: bands over and he gave him a pair of rate bands. 2661 01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:20,680 Speaker 3: Whatever the heck he game Minu. 2662 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,600 Speaker 10: That was really cool with Justin Jefferson. But I'll take 2663 01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,200 Speaker 10: my bias out of that aside. 2664 01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:27,440 Speaker 3: I like Justin Jill. 2665 01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:28,240 Speaker 5: I like him too. 2666 01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,200 Speaker 10: Well, we'll go away from the NFL. We're gonna go 2667 01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 10: to kind of baseball. The Savannah Bananas are losing over 2668 01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,280 Speaker 10: two hundred thousand per game. Who do you blame, Bucky? 2669 01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:42,800 Speaker 1: They're losing over two hundred thousand dollars per game. Yes, 2670 01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,280 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to be too big. 2671 01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:49,960 Speaker 4: Like it was a cute, little niche situation where people 2672 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,560 Speaker 4: would come see them, they would do all the dancing. 2673 01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,320 Speaker 4: But now they're on this tour and they talk about 2674 01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,480 Speaker 4: announcing tour to go even more worldwide. 2675 01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,680 Speaker 1: Just keep the main thing the main thing. I think 2676 01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:02,440 Speaker 1: they try to do too much too So I gotta 2677 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:03,320 Speaker 1: blame the accountant. 2678 01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:05,400 Speaker 3: Get a hold of this guy, because I'll tell you what. 2679 01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 2: You know what happened in Jacksonville with the guy at 2680 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:10,480 Speaker 2: the business manager is the imprison right now stealing money 2681 01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:12,000 Speaker 2: from the Jacksonville Jaguars. 2682 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,600 Speaker 3: Watch the accountant guy all of a sudden, now he's 2683 01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:15,400 Speaker 3: driving a big car. 2684 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:20,520 Speaker 10: Watch this guy, well, another guy we need to watch 2685 01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,800 Speaker 10: or just people to watch, is we didn't mention major 2686 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,560 Speaker 10: League baseball game between the Reds and the. 2687 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:28,280 Speaker 5: Braves at Bristol Racetrack last week. 2688 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,200 Speaker 10: So here's the thing, though, guys, they ran out of 2689 01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:36,960 Speaker 10: hot dogs in the first first inning and had a 2690 01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,840 Speaker 10: two and a half hour rain delay after that. 2691 01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:41,840 Speaker 5: Who do you blame on that? 2692 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:42,320 Speaker 1: Andy? 2693 01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,880 Speaker 3: Some moron who's the concessionaire's probably major League Baseball? 2694 01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:46,120 Speaker 1: Why? 2695 01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,680 Speaker 2: Why is major League Baseball getting involved with things they 2696 01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:52,120 Speaker 2: don't know nothing about, like concessions? Really, let the concession 2697 01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:54,600 Speaker 2: here from the Bristol Racetrack angler. How do you run 2698 01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:56,400 Speaker 2: out of freaking hot dogs in. 2699 01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:57,080 Speaker 3: The first inning? 2700 01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,520 Speaker 2: We know the crowds could be eighty thousand plus. Embarrassing. 2701 02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,960 Speaker 2: It's an embarrassment, it really is. It's terrible. 2702 02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Shame on you. 2703 02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, shame on dear. Someone did a poor job of entory. 2704 02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:08,880 Speaker 4: You should never run out of hot dogs in a 2705 02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:13,000 Speaker 4: first inning. Whoever was on manager or duty the night 2706 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:14,640 Speaker 4: before it didn't do a good job of checking in. 2707 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:16,400 Speaker 1: But you can't run out hot dogs first inning. 2708 02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:18,400 Speaker 3: But did they run out of buns or just the 2709 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:19,640 Speaker 3: hot dogs that I don't know. 2710 02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, if you got too many buns and not enough 2711 02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:23,320 Speaker 1: hot dogs, that's a problem too. 2712 02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:24,320 Speaker 5: That's a problem. 2713 02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:26,440 Speaker 3: I got you a bunch. I don't wonder about that, 2714 02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:26,880 Speaker 3: all right. 2715 02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:30,160 Speaker 10: Well, The Minnesota Vikings will be without starting wide receiver 2716 02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,920 Speaker 10: Jordan Addison for the first three games of the twenty 2717 02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:35,960 Speaker 10: twenty five season because he was suspended by the NFL 2718 02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:39,320 Speaker 10: for violating the league's substance abuse policy, which was a 2719 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,560 Speaker 10: result of his arrest in July last year for suspicion 2720 02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:46,760 Speaker 10: of driving under the influence. Who do you blame, Bucky, I. 2721 02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:50,880 Speaker 4: Blame Jordan Adison for sniffing us smelling sauce while he 2722 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:51,520 Speaker 4: was driving. 2723 02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:54,000 Speaker 1: He was trying to be coherent and he tested. 2724 02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,080 Speaker 4: Positive because of the smelling sauce got him. It's the 2725 02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,040 Speaker 4: smelling sauce fault. 2726 02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:00,240 Speaker 2: Oh, he only fell asleep driving the car, Big Dean. 2727 02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Was he suspended? Let him play, Let him play, Give 2728 02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,240 Speaker 2: him a shot. You know, if he wasn't a football player, 2729 02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,200 Speaker 2: he got a shot. But at stay tuned. We'll see 2730 02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,440 Speaker 2: you next week. Count down next