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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. I didn't really understand today's

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Speaker 1: segment before we started, so never a good time. From

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's Around the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansa's heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and yes,

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Speaker 1: today's segment, I'm excited to have the conversation UM about

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Speaker 1: spicy v Frisky as teased on the Flagship show on

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Speaker 1: slash apprehensive about to hold it, about just how long

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Speaker 1: it would be, UM, and I said, just let it

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Speaker 1: flow through, you bro. Just sometimes you gotta let the

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Speaker 1: segment have a free flowing conversation. I hear like when

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Speaker 1: Greg says free flowing conversation, I know what that means.

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? I? First of all, this is

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Speaker 1: the long way for you to start the episode. Why because?

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Speaker 1: Because because what happens when a segment goes totally south

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Speaker 1: you guys, I don't really think that you understood what

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Speaker 1: was going on there. We've got to be a little

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Speaker 1: say what what was your thought for this? Because there's

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Speaker 1: no lead up to it. And then you turn around

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Speaker 1: and say it's like, oh, you're overly concerned about the segment.

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Speaker 1: You're not free flowing enough. I will. I'll be as

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Speaker 1: free flowing as you could possibly imagine. We got this

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Speaker 1: Mark today. I like it well, I mean, because it's

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Speaker 1: start recording our conversations. I think that's the next Absolutely

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Speaker 1: excited about what's occurring. I mean, I think that's the

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Speaker 1: next step in our relay ship, is only having conversations

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Speaker 1: don't get mad at me, of course not because there's

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Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's a different colleague of ours. If

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Speaker 1: you remember Sunday show, Um, after a Brown's highlight. You

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Speaker 1: had some things to say, Well, someone else had some

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Speaker 1: things to say back. Let's listen. What is happening? And man, DJ,

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Speaker 1: mean DJ worked for the Browns and it didn't go

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Speaker 1: laughing at just laugh at them? Wow, Sessler? Really after

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Speaker 1: after I've spared you from from all of our heat.

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Speaker 1: First of all, so many things wrong with this whole thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: First of all, I was with the Browns for two years,

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Speaker 1: good story. Oh yeah, let's move on. If we have

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Speaker 1: we enter week six. But and of course the Thursday

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Speaker 1: where I think he could face discipline if he had

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Speaker 1: sort of realized what he did in the moment and

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Speaker 1: then like help the guy out there. Or whatever that

431
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Speaker 1: looks like when a Dan's Irish goodbyes out of the exactly. Um.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, there was an incident report that

433
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Speaker 1: was filed, and I just liked the wording in it

434
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Speaker 1: because it was a it was a it was bully

435
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: behavior and he pushed the dude down, but it wasn't vicious.

436
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh my god, is that guy gonna

437
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Speaker 1: be Okay? Uh, here is the language and the incident report.

438
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Speaker 1: The victim made arrangements for private transport to the hospital

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Speaker 1: for treatment, at which time he called police. The injuries

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Speaker 1: are pre preliminarily thought to be non life threatening. Okay,

441
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Speaker 1: let's come down. Let's not get too legitious here. We

442
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Speaker 1: don't know dan crappy moment. We don't know what, we

443
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Speaker 1: don't know the condition of his body. All right, let's

444
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Speaker 1: pause right here and take a break. We'll be right back.

445
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: In other news, Ron Rivera stepped in it. On Monday.

446
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Speaker 1: You know, the Commanders are one in four heading into

447
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Speaker 1: Thursday night football. All the other teams in the NFC

448
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: East are bawling out five and old Eagles, Cowboys and

449
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: Giants four and one. So he's facing some uh heat

450
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: and rightfully so for the commanders not doing much. And

451
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Speaker 1: when he was asked about the difference between Washington and

452
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Speaker 1: the rest of the thriving NFC East, like I said,

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Speaker 1: Ron rivera stepped in it. Why do you think the

454
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Speaker 1: teams in the division her father had at this point quarterback.

455
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Speaker 1: The truth is that this is a quarterback driven lake.

456
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Speaker 1: And if you look at the teams that have been

457
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Speaker 1: able to sustain success, they've been able to build it

458
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Speaker 1: around a specific quarterback. You know, Quarters of Nation is

459
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: not feeling good about that because he Ron River is

460
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Speaker 1: wearing a really like nice Kashmere maroon quarters zip I

461
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Speaker 1: called a three quartersip um with a button down on

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Speaker 1: uneath it, and he he looks like art museum curator

463
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: and he just buries his quarterback. So tough, tough moment

464
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Speaker 1: for Quarters of Nations. He tugged down. You might have

465
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Speaker 1: to say he's wearing a three quarters if he doesn't

466
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Speaker 1: deserve the distance. Yeah, uh he You know, there was

467
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Speaker 1: some extra context to that. He like praised Carson Wentz

468
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Speaker 1: at one point in those answers, and he was trying

469
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Speaker 1: to and he apologized to today saying he doesn't want

470
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Speaker 1: to be a distraction and he created distract. Spoke with

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Speaker 1: Carson privately right by that the way he climbs only answered.

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Speaker 1: But part of the problem was his answer made no

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Speaker 1: sense because his the way he was trying to answer

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Speaker 1: it was saying that the continuity that they've had at

475
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Speaker 1: quarterback in their systems is what led them to greater success. Okay,

476
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Speaker 1: we have Daniel Jones quarterback in his third in his

477
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Speaker 1: third system. He just started his new system, uh five

478
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, the same time as Carson Wentz, uh and

479
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: and Scott Turner. By the way, he's been there a while.

480
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: The offensive coordinate for Watchington and uh Dallas is four

481
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Speaker 1: and one with a backup quarterback. So it's like none

482
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Speaker 1: of it made it. I don't know what it is,

483
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Speaker 1: or maybe I kind of do, but you know, you

484
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Speaker 1: can't really put your finger on it because you're not

485
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: in the buildings. But Carson Wentz will just wherever he goes,

486
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna take fire, and sometimes faster than you realize.

487
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Speaker 1: And India was by the end of the season. Uh

488
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: here it's by you know, not even Halloween. He's getting

489
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Speaker 1: kind of like roped into these type of conversations Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And the Pentagon. He was pointing more to himself, actually,

491
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Speaker 1: because I can't think of a you know, old school

492
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Speaker 1: veteran coach around the league that seems to verbally care

493
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Speaker 1: less about going and getting that young quarterback. If anything,

494
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Speaker 1: it's I want to I want Alex Smith, I want

495
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Speaker 1: you know, fill in the blank, low level guy that

496
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Speaker 1: we they wanted Stafford to Stafford wanted. But like we

497
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Speaker 1: just talked about what happens to coaches that do this well,

498
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Speaker 1: I think this is an example of Ron not listening

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Speaker 1: to his quarterback, because if he had listened to what

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz said back in July, he might have acted

501
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Speaker 1: a little differently. As we all know, decided to really

502
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Speaker 1: go ahead and start to take command. He didn't take command.

503
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Rivera has not taken command. No, he has not, and

504
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Speaker 1: he could find himself not commanding a roster too much

505
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Speaker 1: longer if things don't change for Washington. Uh. In other news,

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Speaker 1: speaking of stepped in it, um Keenan Allen at the

507
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Speaker 1: end of the Chargers game. And I know you guys

508
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Speaker 1: were a little softer on Brandon Staley in the aftermath

509
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Speaker 1: of this than I was, But I was not into

510
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Speaker 1: him going for it on fourth and two in his

511
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Speaker 1: own territory up two points in that situation, and Keenan

512
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Speaker 1: Allen was an agreement. He was inactive with a hamstring injury,

513
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Speaker 1: and he tweeted w t F are we doing? And

514
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: then he deleted that tweet. But then he had a

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Speaker 1: follow up to Wheat in which he was like, you

516
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Speaker 1: know something, all the lines of I have it right here.

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Speaker 1: So glad he missed that because man, man man, So

518
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: he's calling out his coach for not knowing what he's

519
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: never the follow up tweet if you if you delete it,

520
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: just go go, go silent, go offline for two days.

521
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: And if you're following what's going on and hearing the

522
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: whispers and the reporting around the Chargers, it doesn't seem

523
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: like Brandon Staley has a great command of this locker room.

524
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is a highly respected veteran. UH Staley addressed

525
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: the Twitter SNAPf who this week, Keenan's heart is with me,

526
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: is with us, and UM, you know, to me, I've

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Speaker 1: understanding of where he was at in that moment because

528
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: he's not with his team there in the fire. That's

529
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: a money down that he's used to being out there. Um,

530
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: which makes it a lot better for us, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just part of sports. And um, you know we're

532
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: gonna become closer because of it. Uh, we already became

533
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Speaker 1: closer this morning because of it, and we're going to

534
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Speaker 1: keep it moving to Denver. Speaking of guys in trouble, Wait,

535
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Speaker 1: what what have you? What you said? There were reports

536
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Speaker 1: that he doesn't have command of the locker room. Where

537
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not. He's getting ready to take command.

538
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: There there are some reports out there. I've seen them.

539
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: I'll have to I'll have to survicem. I didn't know that, um,

540
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: but that things weren't so hot in Chargers Lynn. Did

541
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Speaker 1: you see those reports? Marks? There were whispers I remember

542
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: talking to a couple of weeks ago that there was

543
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Speaker 1: bubbling up that maybe you know last year nice when

544
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Speaker 1: we got something, Greggy, I got the pulse you'd have

545
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: something if you actually gave the Just wait, I can't.

546
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: I was ready to cite sources here because you're ambushing

547
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: me in the middle of the podcast. But trust me,

548
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: and there was something out there that's I will find.

549
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Speaker 1: It was news to me that he's taken some heat,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it doesn't surprise me. Though, because there's probably

551
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people surprised you because you didn't know

552
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: about it, and Zeuser did. I used to know a

553
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: guy who would talk about being the a T insider,

554
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: and then he would not only double source it, he

555
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: would triple source it. And now he's doing that. You know,

556
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: he's fallen hard. I tell what you see. See he's hitting.

557
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Greg likes to be like, oh, nothing can hurt me, nothing,

558
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: I deflect all but that one that was a knife

559
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: into the risk. It's more if you come after me,

560
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, and more importantly journalistically, if you've got to

561
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: come after Brandon Staley, you gotta back it up with

562
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: some facts. You thank you, Paul Rod. You nailed this one. Greg,

563
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: you got it. You do it. You know, it's like

564
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: the I love this, It's like the Stephen A. Smith thing.

565
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: Oh reports, you know, watch out, alright, just out, Staley,

566
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: watch your back. Just just give me a minute. I

567
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: will dig this up and maybe my producer Justin can

568
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: help out as well, because we need to get the

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Speaker 1: sourcing right for Greg to admit you just got got

570
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: you got got in the NFL news business, We'll see,

571
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: aren't we a little surprised that Keenan Allen wouldn't be

572
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: completely and intimately familiar with the way this team operates

573
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: on fourth down. He's been probably a hundred meetings where

574
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Stale he said, this is what we do in these situations.

575
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: He's not a sports reporter from like eyewitness news. That's

576
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: that's just discovering. I think it goes to Dan's uh

577
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: point that when he was upset with the going for

578
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: the fourth down. Players are the same as fans, are

579
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: the same as journalists. They've seen football operated in a

580
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: certain way forever and they've just accept that that's the

581
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: right way to do things. And anyone, whether you like

582
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: it or not, who's gonna go against that. There's gonna

583
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: be a lot of people that don't like it. I'm

584
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: saying that he's been closer to a team that operates

585
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: the suite this way than of players, coaches, or the

586
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: rest of the earth. I mean, this is what the

587
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Charges did all last year. They're doing it again. Um,

588
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: all right, I think that's everything in the news. Yes,

589
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Are we taking a

590
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: break here? Justin let's take a break and we'll right back.

591
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: We're back, all right. I have surface some of the

592
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: reporting out there. Uh. There was a bad loss to

593
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in Week three in which only two team

594
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: captains were available to speak to the media, Herbert and Eckler.

595
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: None of the defensive captains spoke of the media. Uh,

596
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: and apparently they left the stadium very quickly. A former

597
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Charger scout had tweeted out that he was hearing some

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00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: rumblings from inside the building that the players were not

599
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: buying into the coaching staffs messaging, and then to follow

600
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: it up the way to fired scout Brentley Weissman sent

601
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: one tweet out, we're going with that as a story.

602
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm not accepting that. And then Keenan Allen took to

603
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Twitter just this week. I don't know if you heard. Oh,

604
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: we talked about it and openly called out his head

605
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: coach's decision making. So, uh, that's where we're at. There's

606
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: layers to this, and we haven't we haven't gone full

607
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: reporting yet, but we do have a fired former scout

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Speaker 1: um who said he heard some rumblings. Well, I'm just

609
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: saying that context is important. It wasn't like Ian Rappaport,

610
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: you feeling that things are hunky. Dorry there, or it's

611
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: probably more likely that Alan, in concert with some of

612
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: this reporting, slash whispers might speak to a disconnect. I

613
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: guess it hadn't occurred to me that they have like

614
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: locker room problems. Yet what about it after this reporting?

615
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: That does it occur to you? Nowiseman doesn't do enough

616
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: for me? Why do you again? Bentley Wiseman so much?

617
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: He could be a man of absurd integrity, right, but

618
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: he was literally fired by the team. But what's the

619
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: what are the circumstances behind? We'll have to find out.

620
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: He also worked for the Patriots, Raiders Oregon and hey,

621
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Speaker 1: as always have to go Ducks. Let's let's uh check

622
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: in on something else before we get to the T

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Speaker 1: and F preview. We know, obviously, um, what's going on

624
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Speaker 1: with certain people having guys? This is Mark needs a

625
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: guy update? All right, Yes, Mark needs a guy. It's

626
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: a feisty show. If you're just tuning in, The following

627
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: players are not an option. Taloah who Foga safety, San Francisco,

628
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Speaker 1: Tarik Woolin cornerback Seattle, Jack Jones cornerback, New England. So

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Speaker 1: those are the three players off the board. As Mark

630
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: continues his quest, uh for a guy. Any developments Mark

631
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: since Sunday night, as you've had a chance to ruminate

632
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: and think about I need a guy. They got guys,

633
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I need one. Any updates, I will be presenting a

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00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: short list for your for you to accept or design.

635
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: I know how it works, but I will be on Thursday,

636
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Speaker 1: UM announcing a short list. Okay, well that's I'm glad

637
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Speaker 1: I can talk to you before this, because there was

638
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Speaker 1: a guy that came to mind might be one of

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Speaker 1: your guys, all right, yeah, because he's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: kind of he's relatively under the radar. He's on the

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Speaker 1: Browns UM, which a team that you focus on UM,

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Speaker 1: and his name is Jeremiah Coamoa. But he was really

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Speaker 1: one of the lead guys on my making this year,

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Wuskamoa, who's who's a very well known player, but

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Speaker 1: I've really been pumping him up for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Made him sort of a centerpiece of the making the Leap.

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Speaker 1: So if that was someone marksidering, First of all, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe Greg called him under the radar. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was special last year and he's becoming even more

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Speaker 1: so now he's been hurt a little bit here and there.

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Speaker 1: But I mean you can have him break if you're

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Speaker 1: if you if this is what fuels you, there's there

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Speaker 1: are clearly voids in the other aspects of your life.

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Speaker 1: This is what you need, you can have it here

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Speaker 1: talking about out now he's going to other aspects. Why

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Speaker 1: this is so important to list Allnoah who found a safety?

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Give me the music. Tarik wool In cornerback Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Jack Jones cornerback, New England, Jeremiah Oosa Corramoa linebacker, Cleveland

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Speaker 1: off the board with more to come. That's fine, that's

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Speaker 1: just the tease. Speaking of tease. Washington and Chicago. The

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Speaker 1: Commanders and the Bears play on Thursday Night Football this week.

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Speaker 1: Hold on to your Jim Gray. But because we got

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Speaker 1: a command off, a command off, because we know Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz is getting ready to take command. Wow, very newsy show.

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Speaker 1: But listen to Matt Eberflus just today on Justin Fields.

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00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: The guys are just getting used to it. You know

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00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: that you can feel Justin you know, comfortable where he

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Speaker 1: is right now on the offense. He's take command and

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Speaker 1: now decided to really go ahead and start to take command.

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Speaker 1: We have commanders Bears in prime time. Two quarterbacks taking

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Speaker 1: command who will fully grasp there on the pregame shows

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Speaker 1: a command like they could do the funny graphics, they

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Speaker 1: can show the thing. Maybe you could be on a boat.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, Washington at Chicago and a reminder.

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Speaker 1: This TNF preview is presented by Prime Video, the new

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Speaker 1: exclusive home for Thursday Night Football. Mark your thoughts on

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00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: this ball game. If anything, I think Justin Fields is

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Speaker 1: coming off his best game. I don't know what that

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00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: means week to week for the Bears, but passing wise,

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked better than he had in the past.

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00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: There's nothing around him. I mean, the number one receiver

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00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: on the Bears has ten receptions. No one else has

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Speaker 1: more than nine. They just they've they've had games where

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Speaker 1: he's had you know, seven, eight, nine completions. The game

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Speaker 1: against the Giants was a hot mess. But I thought

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Speaker 1: Fields played better last week. He had like a fifty

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Speaker 1: two yard run that was erased by penalty, where you

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Speaker 1: kind of see what Justin Fields can do in the

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Speaker 1: open field. I mean, really, to me it maybe a

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00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: better system would be a better quarterback. I don't know,

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00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: they're they don't have a good line in front of him.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of like hopes that if

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Speaker 1: the Commander's got hot, because I feel like they've been

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Speaker 1: really streaky. They've had a quarter or two where if

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Speaker 1: there they get buried early and then Wentz has to

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Speaker 1: bring them back. You can see what Washington's offense is

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Speaker 1: capable of, and I would give this. I think Washington,

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Speaker 1: basically for Ron Rivera, needs to do this to save

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Speaker 1: their season. They are in hot water if they fell

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Speaker 1: in this one. And this is a sitting duck Bears

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Speaker 1: team potentially on offense. I mean, if Washington falls here,

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Speaker 1: you are talking about the floor falling out. And yet

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Speaker 1: I I'm really struggling to pick this game just because

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Speaker 1: I I feel like the Bears have a little something

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Speaker 1: something that the Commanders don't have. Like if if this

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Speaker 1: game is close, and it probably will be at the end,

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Speaker 1: I can just imagine the Bears pulling out an ugly

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Speaker 1: win and feeling good about themselves, and the Commander's finding

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Speaker 1: a Minnesota right finding a way to lose. The Bears

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Speaker 1: protected justin fields incredibly well against Minnesota makes me wonder

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Speaker 1: a little bout about that Minnesota defense. I mean Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields was cooking steaks back there, Dan cooking steaks and

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Speaker 1: packing cake doing math. I don't know, there's there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of phrases for getting great past protective,

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Speaker 1: but he needs it because no one holds the ball

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Speaker 1: longer or takes longer to make a decision to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball than Justin Fields right now. But he did

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Speaker 1: throw the ball pretty well. And and like Mark said,

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Speaker 1: I think if you can just get his legs a

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Speaker 1: little more involved, he's led them in rushing a couple

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Speaker 1: of times lately. Good tidbit here, uh from the NFL

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Speaker 1: research team, The Commander's pressure QB is on the highest

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Speaker 1: percentage of dropecks of any team in the league. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, did you happen to see Monte's sweat

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Speaker 1: and what he was doing um in that game on Sunday? Uh?

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Speaker 1: He was all over the Titans, um And who were they?

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Speaker 1: It was the back it was the left tackle that

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Speaker 1: replaced Teller Luan correct, Yes, Dennis Daily, he was having

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Speaker 1: a hard time of it. He should change his name

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Speaker 1: to Dennis Snappley because he was getting beat on a

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Speaker 1: that that's how often he was getting beat human. Other producer.

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Speaker 1: Drew is actually leaving the studio and he took off

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Speaker 1: his headset and he's leaving. Other people are booing, getting

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Speaker 1: the thumbs even Sean Kelly's giving you the thumbs down.

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Speaker 1: That's the most positive man in the world. Oh, Drew

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Speaker 1: did come back. That's good. Yes, Dennis Daly was getting

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Speaker 1: hammered by Montes switch the highest pressure rate in the

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Speaker 1: league because they haven't been a good defense. It hasn't

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Speaker 1: like added up to be there yet, right. That was

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Speaker 1: the thing with the RIVERA quote was like quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: our way, your team had one of the worst defenses

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Speaker 1: in the league a year ago, in your below average

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Speaker 1: in every possible metro this year too, and you're a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach. So it's not just the quarterback. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a tough game to pick um. It is

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Speaker 1: the according to the Power Rankings V thirty and it's

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Speaker 1: coming off the Colts Broncos games. So I'm not happy,

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Speaker 1: Alain happy. Maybe we'll be surprised though. I think the

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Speaker 1: NFL's sweating to thinking. But Fields is. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Fields is the because we know Wentz has this ability

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Speaker 1: to get hot, and we saw what he did with

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Speaker 1: Dammy Brown connecting bea plus with multiple touchdowns. It's not

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Speaker 1: that he's not productive. So let's sell this one. Let's

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00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: sell this one, baby. Uh. The Commanders can score points.

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00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz can potentially create a scenario where they scored

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Speaker 1: thirty points and justin fields like we've been saying, coming

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Speaker 1: off his best game, with some confidence, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of swag, maybe Baby, we end up getting a game

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Speaker 1: it's fun to watch, to make up for what happened

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Speaker 1: last there's two desperate teams. It won't it won't be worse.

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Speaker 1: I will guarantee it. It'll be better than it cannot

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Speaker 1: be worse. That was one of the worst games I've

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Speaker 1: ever watched last week. I I agree, it's a big

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can be a cornered commander.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can be. You're bad. They're because they're

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Speaker 1: cornered right now, Mark's right. This feels like a world

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Speaker 1: history is filled with corners like Commanders that eventually were

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Speaker 1: corner I don't know about Lyne in the sand, if

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Speaker 1: that's the right word. But if they follow the one

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Speaker 1: in five and losing in Chicago in uh in an

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Speaker 1: Island game, maybe their only Island game all year. It's

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00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna get ugly that there's no overt plan. Ron Riverican

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Speaker 1: point to as a commander at that point, and a reminder,

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Speaker 1: you can watch this game on mobile with NFL Plus.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right. That was the t NAF

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Speaker 1: preview presented by Prime Video. The new era of Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football is officially here, and it's only on Prime Video.

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Speaker 1: Let's finish the show by Yes, we have been talking

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: about this off air for weeks. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: even in erect what would have been a reckless decision,

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00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: almost made it a segment during our live show in

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Speaker 1: London at the O two Forum before thinking better of it. Um. Yes,

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: we were not at the top of our game mentally

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Speaker 1: at that point. Um. But Sunday we teased it it

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Speaker 1: is finally time to play frisky or spicy kind of frisky.

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Speaker 1: Justin's really pumped up back there today. I like it.

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Speaker 1: He brought the a effort. What is that from Justin?

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Speaker 1: I do not know? So he did not directed Eric

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Speaker 1: to find sounds and Eric, well, Eric did an excellent

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Speaker 1: Eric Day Weekly Snappily, Eric, a question for you, because

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Speaker 1: we just we just basic Justin, why don't we turn

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Speaker 1: off the mic for a while. But just but he

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Speaker 1: had broken in to say, actually, I didn't do that

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Speaker 1: one of my He was silent and justin you know,

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Speaker 1: I love you. But let's just let's go quiet for

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Speaker 1: a little bit and just think about some stuff. Uh. Frisky,

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Speaker 1: What is frisky? What is spicy? That is the question.

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Speaker 1: I'll give my definition as I give my first team.

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Speaker 1: I think frisky is a team that is annoying. They're

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Speaker 1: a team that you look at your schedule in week

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Speaker 1: one and you go, that's backpocket win. And then that

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Speaker 1: team starts the season and you notice that the teams

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Speaker 1: that are supposed to be handling them are struggling to

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Speaker 1: defeat them. Sometimes they don't even beat them. So the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, to me, are an example of a frisky team.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're spicy because I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: ready to make that leap to being a team that's

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Speaker 1: really fighting for a playoff spot or giving anyone a

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Speaker 1: scare in the NFC South. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I believe them to be a team that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a tough opponent week after week. Frisky the Falcons, I

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Speaker 1: think I feel like they are the textbook definition of frisky,

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Speaker 1: especially the way that you described it. I do see

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Speaker 1: a scenario though, and this is and I'll have to

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Speaker 1: find out who would come up and fit this scenario

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Speaker 1: that you could that you could be spicy even if

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Speaker 1: you aren't that good, or even if you have no

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Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs. Somehow, you just there's a

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Speaker 1: level to the interest, and there's a team in my

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Speaker 1: mind where you are spicy even if you're not like

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Speaker 1: great at football, even if you're gonna finish seven and ten,

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Speaker 1: you could be spicy just because you're so darned tasty,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What's okay? I think I

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Speaker 1: think the Seahawks are spicy, because yes, the Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: frisky in a way. To me, they're more spicy, And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I think they're gonna go to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but they're like the number one offense in the league

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, you don't get much more spicy

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Speaker 1: than a Geno Smith, you know, big time throw or

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Speaker 1: a Geno Smith like press conference and answer to me,

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Speaker 1: they are very spicy. You don't get much more spicy

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Speaker 1: with an over seventy zaddy than Pete Carroll like they're

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Speaker 1: spicy and and it doesn't mean they're good. They disagree

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Speaker 1: with that just because my definition is different. You're not

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Speaker 1: spicy unless you're really sending some shock waves out there

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Speaker 1: and you have a chance to make some big noise.

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Speaker 1: Like for me, the Cowboys are spicy. The Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: a team that they they exceeded past frisky and now

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Speaker 1: they are a team that has a defense that's given

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Speaker 1: up one touchdown in each of the first five weeks,

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Speaker 1: that has big time playmakers both in the front and

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Speaker 1: the back end on defense, and yes have Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: waiting in the wings getting healthy as the team wins.

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Speaker 1: They are spicy to me different completely and with you

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Speaker 1: with the Falcons, I'm with you on the Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks is frisky, but I also see another team

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Speaker 1: that's frisky, because I think frisky is less embedded. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a newness to it. It's kind of like you've

849
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Speaker 1: had a crazy night out, you left your credit card

850
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: at the bar, You've given your social Security number to

851
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: a band of teen robbers, you don't know what could happen,

852
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: and the world is new for you suddenly. And that

853
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: is my frisky team. The New York Jets where we

854
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: were three weeks ago, same old Jets. You got Joe

855
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Flacco out there getting his butt kicked. Then suddenly that

856
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: there's that inciting incident. The win over Cleveland was something

857
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: that came so far from the wilderness and was so

858
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: improbable that it kind of changed everything that would happened

859
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: for the Jets. Then suddenly incomes Zack Wilson to complement

860
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: the rest of this rookie class. The ten years now

861
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: you might look at this rookie class and say everything changed.

862
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Now you got Robert Sala suddenly not a zombie on

863
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: the sideline, swing at the grass. He's starting to pump

864
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: his fists, and they're gonna go play Green Bay, and

865
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: you could go from frisky to spicy, just like a

866
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: last New York team did. If you go into Green

867
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: Bay and you handle your business. Zack Wilson in his

868
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: own way, maybe not numbers wise, but leads an offense

869
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: and outduels a depressing Packers team. That's how the Jets

870
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: flipped the switch. I mean depressing fields a little bit strong.

871
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: But here is we are. We are right church different

872
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: pew on that, because I do think the Jets are

873
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: right there. A win in Lambeau sends them to uh

874
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: spicy territory. But I don't think they're frisky right now.

875
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: They've graduated into this world in between. The Jets are

876
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: feisty right now. The Jets are wait, so it's frisky,

877
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: spicy or feisty. There's a feisty and the Jets are.

878
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: They qualify in this weird like nether world of where

879
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: they are. They were on frisky, they moved to feisty.

880
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Now they get the blinker on and they're ready to

881
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: turn onto spicy boulevard. All they gotta do is beat

882
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And I just gotta say, this is the

883
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: the best possible outcome for this Jet season. And I'm

884
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: even saying any of this right now, right because we're

885
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: four weeks to remove from you making fun of Robert

886
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Sala and like being annoyed at the answers he was giving,

887
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: making fun of those fust worrying for you, I worry

888
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: for you now putting too much brightness on them, like

889
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: just not suddenly you're ready to take them and put

890
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: them into category above. All the other teams were talking

891
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: the receipts. We were kind of mocking that like that

892
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: he was being That's all I'm saying, And so we're

893
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm confused though, because feisty to be would be lower

894
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: than frisky. Yeah, so I'd rather to me, it's just like, hey,

895
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: you might pop up in a given week and you're

896
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: not you know, you're not a doormat like the Bears

897
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: if they win this week especially, but the Bears to

898
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: me have shown some feistiness. They're not frisky, then they're

899
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: definitely not spicy. They get three and three. I think

900
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: it's again, this is a segment where you let it

901
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: flow through you. Yeah, and for me, um, there is

902
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: a world in between frisky and spicy, and for that

903
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: it's fisty. Now they're clearly frisky at the very least. Oh,

904
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: they are, absolutely. I believe they graduated from frisky after

905
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: yesterday but Sunday, but even they to to Mark's point,

906
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: maybe I got to calm down a little bit. Maybe

907
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were, you know, just turn it down. The

908
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: third court, third string quarterback question about the Cowboys. I

909
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: don't know, it's circling back, but I think it gets

910
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: to the heart of frisky and feisty and spicy and

911
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: all the things. What does expectation have to do with

912
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: the term, and what does sort of the team's history

913
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: have to do with the terms. Because the Cowboys are

914
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: sixteen and six in their last two seasons. You know,

915
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: they won twelve games last year. Uh, they are America's

916
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: team there, nobody's underdog. Yes, they've been playing with the energy,

917
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: they've been playing with a backup quarterbacks. Can I answer

918
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: a question? I think that gets to feisty, but to me,

919
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: they're sort of not. They're not They're not frisky because

920
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: they're the Cowboy. I don't think that they belong in

921
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: this exercise because they are. They were the I know

922
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles have bubbled up, but they spent much of

923
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: the off season as a division favorite. They were a

924
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: playoff team a year ago, and they don't fit with

925
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: the rest of the teams. Were kind of talking about

926
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: here where they're kind of they're not coming from the wilderness.

927
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: They're the most on brand advertised team out there. With

928
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: that somehow it is. I mean, if Cooper rushed or

929
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: were to be their quarterback the rest of the year,

930
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: I'd stick him into this. I mean they were on

931
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: this podcast anyway, mostly buried as an aftertho summer and

932
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: seventh in the NFL coming in really, but they're not

933
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: an unknown. We're talking about teams that are like, maybe

934
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: a team can maybe a good team can be right.

935
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: And things changed from even August what you're saying, Mark,

936
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: Like when Dak went down, everyone, everybody, and I mean

937
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: everybody said they were done. Every single person on this

938
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: network and elsewhere said, oh the cat, look how bad

939
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: they looked in the first place in Week one against

940
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks and then Dax bro Dak broke his thumb.

941
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: And now we got Cooper Rush coming in here. They

942
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: are cooked and guess what, they weren't cooked, so that

943
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: because they got knocked down into like this, they're cooked status.

944
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: They to me get into this bucket. And they are

945
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: absolutely spicy. They are spicy if we want to shove

946
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: them into one of these categories. For the most part,

947
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: it's spicy, but they also have a super Bowl level

948
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: defense and there's no other team that we're talking about

949
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: here with anything like that on either side. Way, what

950
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: was that, Mark? Spicy? If you're spicy, you're just spicy.

951
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Spicy food stays spicy for the most part. Did I

952
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: actually say that? Yeah? That was not a cut up

953
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: thing that was god this season, especially Mark, I could

954
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: always count on you if I feeling a little bit

955
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: self conscious, like maybe I shouldn't bring up the Jets. Mark,

956
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: you will bring up the Jets this year. Um, so

957
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: I'll bring up the Browns. And they are frisky to me.

958
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: And that's this is like they're frisky in a frustrating

959
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: way because of everything. Their three losses have been super annoying.

960
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: But you don't go into Cleveland or welcome Cleveland in

961
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: and think, oh, we're just gonna walk over these guys,

962
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: because they will give you a game. They have Nick Chubb, who,

963
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: by the way, I understand the way a game plays out,

964
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: and I understand Jake Brisket has been playing really well

965
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: this season, But how does think Chop only have seventeen

966
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: carries on Sunday. This guy can't be tackled because so

967
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: many of them just like ended in the end zone.

968
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 1: So dr But I see what you're saying, he ended,

969
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: he stands for more carries by going I'm saying he

970
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: had half the amount of touches that Brissette had throws

971
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: in this game. And it's just like or carries, I

972
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: should say. But anyway, I think the Browns are frisky,

973
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: you said frustrating, and I made a category for them

974
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: frustrating to bizarre levels because I don't find them frisky.

975
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: That's really outside the bounds of this segment. But you

976
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: created that, wasn't that's within the bounds. It's got a

977
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: y at the end. Well, but you're going to sign everything.

978
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: It also fits in the lower third graphically on the

979
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: YouTube show. I don't think they're frisky when we work

980
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: on something for the lower third for marks ting to

981
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: bizarre level. I don't think they're frisky when you can

982
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: count on them to blow it. They The reason the

983
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: Jets are in this category or even talking about the

984
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: Jets is because of the Browns. The reason we're talking

985
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: about the Falcons because they ran for two d two

986
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: yards on the Browns. But I can count on them

987
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: to blow it, like the Lions, who I think are frisky.

988
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: It was the Sunday with any of these categories. Before

989
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: Sunday they did sure not. Now, okay, I don't think

990
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: the brown I'm not burying the Lions up one terrible offensive,

991
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: but I mean they're one in five. When are they

992
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: Do they strike you as frisky or spicy? The Lions.

993
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: I think they're frisky. I think they'll get back to

994
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: think of their entire team for Sunday win a game.

995
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: But you don't have to win to be frisky, you

996
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: could just be. I mean at some point, being one

997
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: in seven, you're not frisky. They're one. I mean they're

998
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: a mess right now. Okay, Uh, the Browns don't fit,

999
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: and I think they're a great uh team to talk

1000
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: about in this exercise. Thank you for now. I have

1001
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: to stop after every line because because Ai Mark speaks

1002
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: about everything, the points are always good. Yeah, they really are.

1003
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: I can't really explain why. But the Browns don't fit.

1004
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean it might be partly because they made a

1005
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: loathsome transaction this offseason. Um that made me not root

1006
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: for them in general. But I also would say the

1007
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: way they've played this season is not frisky, ficy or spicy.

1008
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: They've just been a surprisingly great offense that is dumb

1009
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: and finds ways to lose. So I don't find that

1010
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound frisky, fighty or spicy. That just sounds

1011
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: like disappointing to Mark's point, frustrating to bizarre. Like I

1012
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: gotta say, I think that's where I because they just

1013
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: they just seem like an annoying team to me because

1014
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: they're not living up to their potential. They should be

1015
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: four and one to their potential, Greg you would bury

1016
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: this basically, no chances flash. I was incredibly wrong in

1017
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: that preseason analysis, like I was about many teams like

1018
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: we all are. You could see within a week or

1019
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: two they were not a bottom five team. That they

1020
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: do feel like they should be four in one, and

1021
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: that there's some bad juj you going on. Well, there's

1022
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: also Jacoby Brissette three interceptions such leading directly to three losses.

1023
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: But it's weird because he's kind of like the poor

1024
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: man Zino this year. He ranks in the top six

1025
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: or seven in basic if you if you took those

1026
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: street throws away, I guarantee there are four and one,

1027
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: maybe five and out. I think I had a little

1028
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: higher hopes for the Browns hanging around before the season,

1029
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: so this feels like who they were. It's just the

1030
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: But you're right, the way they've lost the games makes

1031
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: it harder. But I just think they are frisky. They're like,

1032
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: don't mess with the Browns, don't sleep on the Browns. Okay,

1033
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: so you wins, you guys. Put this to the Seahawks

1034
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: and frisky, fix your defense a little, and then they

1035
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: can really get what was the Patriots. The Browns play

1036
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots this week, and I think and if Frisky Bowl,

1037
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think the Patriots are clearly frisky,

1038
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: maybe even feisty. Okay, they go to Green Bay, they

1039
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: lose their backup quarterback immediately that thing goes to overtime.

1040
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: They beat the team of a t l in a shutout,

1041
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: another frisky team according with a third string quarterback. In

1042
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: the week before that, they're going back and forth with

1043
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: the Ravens in like a weird offensive shootout where they

1044
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: actually have a lead uh late in that game. To me,

1045
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: they're very frisky because they don't really seem like a

1046
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: good team, but you don't know, you don't want them

1047
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: on your schedule. They're definitely not spicy. I think is

1048
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: because my frisky category um Jets, Brown's, Falcon, Seahawks lines.

1049
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: They're all teams that they've been kind of fun to

1050
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: watch and they they they entertain you, even if they

1051
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: don't always win. I can't say that I've enjoyed watching

1052
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots this season, but at the same time, I

1053
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. There are definitely boxes that are

1054
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: being more fights. The actually Bill Belichick in his press

1055
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: conferences fight that's good. They're not fun to watch, So

1056
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Speaker 1: you're right. I think frisky better be. What are we

1057
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: doing calling something frisky if there's no enjoyment attached to it?

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: I think Massachusetts people in general are feisty. I didn't

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: realize that growing up. I just thought that's how how

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00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: everyone was, and then I was just like, nope, me

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00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: and all my friends are jerks. That's just um what happens.

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: But you extend friendship to each other, so there is

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: some that is a drop moving forward, Alright, any other

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00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: thoughts I've shared all of mine. I gotta say. I

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: think I think that we have the giants and giants

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Speaker 1: I don't even I, Oh, please, Greggy, they're frisky, you

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00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: know why not? Why is it with you and the giants?

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00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: Why can't you just I just think they're frisky. There

1069
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that start out fast and

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00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: end up with eight winds, and those, to me are

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00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: frisky teams. And I still kind of think that's where

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00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: the giants are headed. But we'll see. And Mark, oh,

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00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: that's from the live show. Oh my god, um mark

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: your category one more time, going to have it because

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00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I know one more team that belongs in the Browns. Nope,

1076
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: which is right? Put the Lions or if you want

1077
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: frustrating to bizarre levels, Browns and Raiders, because we had

1078
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. The Raiders to me, they're not last night.

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00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: Last night was a night two weeks ago they ran

1080
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: the ball a ton. I kind of like that last night.

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00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Had they pulled that off. We're talking about something at

1082
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: that point because they're close. They're close, but right now

1083
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: I can't really put them into frisky or spicy. I

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00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: don't want to watch them every week necessary. I kind

1085
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: of like watching them, Uh you know. They they made

1086
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos look interesting for one week. That was the

1087
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: most watchable Broncos game they've They have found a way

1088
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: to lose insane games to the Titans, the Cardinals and

1089
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But they're they're not far away. They're certainly

1090
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 1: the best one in four team in the NFL. Alright,

1091
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: it's not let me just I'm just gonna my last thing.

1092
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: I just because I want to give them. It's the

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL. It's been a rough go

1094
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: since we name them that, But I just want to

1095
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: go through the five weeks, and I understand Sunday was

1096
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: terrible thirty five loss to the Eagles, who are five

1097
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: and oh win over Washington, loss to Minnesota four and one,

1098
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: five shootout loss to Geno m v P and the

1099
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks before a meltdown in New England. And they are

1100
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: hardly the first team to go up to New England

1101
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: and get humbled by getting just outcoached, uh and lose

1102
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: twenty nine zip. I think there's enough. There's enough there

1103
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: to give them frisky status. So they have their bye week, Okay,

1104
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: come out of it. They go to Dallas, one of

1105
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: the team that's not going to give up forty five

1106
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: points while they score forty five. So I'm saying if

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00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: they fall to one in five against the Cowboys and

1108
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: then you've got the Packers, and it matters how they play.

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00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: It's not just whether they win or lose, but at

1110
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: some point. So so, if they were one in eight

1111
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: but they're losing games thirty eight to thirty nine, you're

1112
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: still frisky. Get them to me, But that's my I

1113
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: don't need them to be winning a lot of games.

1114
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: Also be like a gnat, just like they're gonna give

1115
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: up Dan Campbell and this staff. I'm gonna believe that

1116
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna come out this bye week clin there. I

1117
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: think the Patriots game hurt me because I wondered if

1118
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: this journey that they're they've been on was more of

1119
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: an aberration than who they are week after week. But

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Speaker 1: they didn't have DeAndre Swift, so I will extend, you know,

1121
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: more time to them. I don't think they care that

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01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, but we'll see what happens. Actually, they're

1123
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: right now like pipe. Thank god, we got an extension

1124
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: all right there it is. I don't know was that how?

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Speaker 1: What was what was going on there? Um Grave Digger,

1126
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: come on back, because I know you've been in kind

1127
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: of time out. Some of your bits didn't land earlier too.

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Speaker 1: But did that segment did that make any sense? That

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01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: segment a little bit? Yeah? Yeah, you know. I will

1130
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,959
Speaker 1: say I agree with you Dan on the feisty being

1131
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: between frisky and spicy, and I don't think it has

1132
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: anything to do with the definition. It just kind of

1133
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: sounds like a combination of But you said, you said

1134
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots are feisty, but that they're haven't they're not frisky,

1135
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: so it's very confusing. Well, no, maybe it's not leveling

1136
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: up for you. It's just different diagram. You kind of

1137
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: won me over on the frisky thing with the Pats

1138
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was more hung up initially on

1139
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: like the they're not like exciting or fun to watch. Well,

1140
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: let's be real, we we keep getting caught in logic

1141
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: traps with this this, and so you just have to say, yes,

1142
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: I think you won me over with that last thing

1143
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: you said. Bailey, he's frisky, he's feisty, he's people in

1144
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: New England need to calm down with like, hey, let's

1145
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: start the zappy kid. There's not they're hungry for a

1146
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: quarterback conscious birth day. I feel like that's a name

1147
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: that he at some point gave to himself, Bailey Zappy.

1148
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy. All right, So I think we covered a

1149
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: lot in today's show. We touched on the DJ DJ

1150
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: feud and we don't need to go on any further

1151
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: because that just gives them something interesting to talk about

1152
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: on their show, So we'll just leave it where it

1153
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: is it fuels them. Yeah, we talked about everything in

1154
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: the news. Mark needs a guy, update, we have something.

1155
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: We have a development coming up on Thursday. You said, there,

1156
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: if I remember, if I really had an ugly source

1157
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: battle related to the chargers, that was that. That was

1158
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: not pleasant, but that's the way it goes sometimes. And

1159
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: then frisky, spicy, feisty, and the other category disappointing everyone,

1160
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: frustrating to bizarre level or something. And then the TNF preview.

1161
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: We've covered a lot, we've said it all. Mark, you

1162
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: get the final word today. I love you both. Wow,

1163
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: that was not a soundtrop Do you believe it? I do,

1164
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Speaker 1: say he the call spe