1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: On today's show, We're gonna have someone on that we 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: vowed never to have on this show again, but hey, 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it anyway. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Let's go roll the intro. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: All right, all right, and your line from Philly it's 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: a number one Raven Paulo as Polly Fool's go here 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: with Tony Foolsco. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: And Tony Yo. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Huge show to New Year, can't we know? 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: We continue to chronicle the breakup of Skip Dayless's Swanton Shop, 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: which shows while the whole concept of embraced debate has 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: been nothing but a total. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: Failure, colossal disaster exactly. 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: You know people that're tired of all this arguing in 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: this back and forth. 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: You know, we have a new slogan. 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Instead of embrace debate, how about erase debate? Yeah? 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: Perfect, Yeah, there you go. 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: You know, we all know that when it comes to 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: sports and opinion, there's only one correct point of view, 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: and that's it. 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: Don't you agreet Tony one hundred spot on? 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, that's why we've been so successful for so 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: many years in this business, because you know the audience 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: is they don't want to hit two sides of everything. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: They just they just had to get to tell them 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: the correct side and move on. 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: Isn't that right? Don't it? 29 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. 30 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: See this is this people take notes, you know, the 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: people in this context is how you. 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Make great sports contents. 33 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And as the saying goes, we're like two 34 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: p's in a pond over here. 35 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: That's what we are. 36 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, Today we're gonna bring on a man who has 37 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: tried to make it on debate shows to his peril. 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Now he's gone solo, either because he wanted to do 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: it because you know, nobody could stand him anymore. Anyway, 40 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: we'll ask him about that. You know someone who has 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: been kicked off this show many times. I gonna guess 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen again, most likely Jason Whitlock, and we're 43 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: gonna get his thoughts on which side he's on, Skip 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: of Shannons. 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, probably the wrong side as usual, That's what 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess anyway. 47 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get into that, first, a word from 48 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: our good friends at Outback Steakhouse. Have you ever tried 49 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: Australian food? Well, believe it or not, it's not as 50 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: weird and off putting as it sounds. In fact, Tony, 51 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: you have your own story here tell the people. 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, A couple of weeks ago, I got my aunt 53 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Marie and her boyfriend Nunzio a gift card to Outback Steakhouse. Well, 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: I saw them the other night, and Nunzio seemed so happy. 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: He told me he really enjoyed eating out down Under 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: with my aunt. I asked him what he ordered at Outback, 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: and then he seemed confused. He said he'd never eaten 58 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: there and didn't even know what Outback was. And I said, 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: but you talked about eating out down Under with my 60 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: aunt And oh uh, forget what I was saying. Let's 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: just move on. 62 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Terrific story, Tony. Anyway, a special treat for. 63 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Our listeners, visit Outback dot com now and to the 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: promo code fusco and get point zero two percent off 65 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: any gift card purchase of seven. 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: One hundred dollars or more off of only valid in Alaska. 67 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Well, now another check this out of the way. 69 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Let's get right into our top story story. All right, First, 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: out the Gate, the big story in sports media, Skip 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Dayliss and Shannon show yea, you know, get your divorce 72 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: because they seem to clearly hate each other. 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: Any way. 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: You know, people are saying that this is all Skip's fault, 75 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: that Shannon's right believe in all this what you know, 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: this is what I totally hate about sports TV these days. 77 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: You know, this idea that. 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: These former athletes can come on and be better at 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: sports talk than journalists and seasoned radios. It's just ridiculous 80 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: and frankly rude to our proud profession, isn't. 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: It, right, Tony. 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's a toxic situation because these Hall of 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Fame athletes on TV now, they just naturally assume they 84 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: know more about sports because they, you know, we're in 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: locker rooms and actually on the field, and that's a 86 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: real problem. 87 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: It's just terrible, you know, ruining the whole foundation of 88 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: what our proud industry of sports doc radio is built on. 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, we understand, and Skip Bayless understands tool that 90 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: the only way to have a perspective on sports is 91 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: to have no direct association with it at all. 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: That's how you remain. 93 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: Objective, exactly. You gotta be objective. 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, perfect segue that, Tony as usual, 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: because on the subject of another true journalist in this business, 96 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: we saw an absolutely terrific take gampere this week from 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: just a brilliant observer of sports. 98 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: Of course, I'm talking about. 99 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: Chris mad Dog Russo, who said boldly and correctly, mind you, 100 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: that this year's Nuggets team was totally overrated and that 101 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty six Celtics would sweep the Nuggets four 102 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: roaw no contest, and Tony mad Dog Russo is so 103 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: right here is it? 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely this year's Nuggets team would stand no chance against 105 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: the eighty six Celtics. All you gotta do is look 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: at the number of Hall of Famers on each team. 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: That's the ultimate way to judge a team. That eighty 108 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: six Celtics had six Hall of Famers, the Nuggets have none. 109 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: That's a glaring difference. 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Such a great point that, Dony, And you know another 111 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: angle here that you know, I can't believe the media, 112 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: or maybe I can believe that the media is just 113 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: too chicken to talk about. 114 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: You'll hear it on this show people. 115 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Doesn't anybody find it a little strange that in the 116 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: span of a week we've seen two athletes win major 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: championships from a country that nobody's heard of. You got 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic, Serbian when in the French Open. Then you 119 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: got Nicola Djokik, also Serbian, within the NBA finals, and 120 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: nobody in our business seems to bat and I find 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: and find this weird. 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: It's it's very disconcerting, isn't. 123 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: It, Tony Very? You know, I don't get my information 124 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: from the Internet because I'm not dumb and gullible. I 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: go to trusted sources like Encyclopedias. I went to my 126 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: most trusted world book, Encyclopedia that I've had for thirty years. 127 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: And what's so strange is that there's no mention of 128 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: a country called Serbia. But now everyone's talking about Serbia 129 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: this and Serbia that. Isn't it just a little strange 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: how this quote unquote country is so important all of 131 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: a sudden. 132 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Just terrific perspective and research that Dony and Yank you 133 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say is controversial, but you know 134 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: it's a duty as journalists it must be said. 135 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 3: What about Chernobyl. 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, you had all that nuclear radiation springing all 137 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: over the place like forty years ago or so. 138 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: You look now at what's going on. 139 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you got these monster athletes sprouting 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: up everywhere in this country over there. 141 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: You know we've seen this before. Just look at the 142 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: incredible Hulk. The radiation transformed Bruce Banner and made him huge. 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: You apps, abolutely one hundred percent have to consider that 144 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: maybe all those gamma rays from Chernobyl got into their 145 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: DNA and gave them super strength. 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: You absolutely have to. 147 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: You know, this is what they call in the business 148 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: people investigative journalism. 149 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: We do real news on the show, unlike. 150 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: Well the outlets and a ninety three years. 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, as we head into the summer, you know this 152 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: time of year, the sports world starts to slow down. 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: We all know that, but you know it doesn't stop 154 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: these desperate sites like ESPN dot Com from try and 155 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: act like all these stories going on are a big dal. 156 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: So right now, what we're gonna do is I'm gonna 157 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: read actual headlines from the front page of ESPN dot 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Com to Tony and I'm gonna see if he cares 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: or not. It's a segment we call do you give 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: a fund? 161 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: Do you give a all? Right? 162 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 1: First headline here, Tony Nevada passes three hundred and eighty 163 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: million dollar bill to fund A's stadium. 164 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: Do you'll give. 165 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 2: An I pass on reading this article. 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: No Yankees owner firm in support of struggling Volpe. 167 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: Do you'll give a I will be struggling to read 168 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: this article. 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: No Rangers hiring ex Capital's head coach Laviolette. 170 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: Do you give a. 171 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to leave violet This article unclicked. 172 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: No Najee Harris backs Ourb's calls out longevity narrative. 173 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Do you give a fun? 174 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: This narrative has no longevity, only short jevity. 175 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: No Ambappe hits out at France over Messi treatment. 176 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: Do you'll give a hmm? I'm going to m skipe 177 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: this article. 178 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: No Tiafo Mussetti to face off in stute Gard quarters. 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: Do you'll give a hmm? 180 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: You know, given the recent success of Francis Tiafo, all 181 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: eyes will be on this match. Following the recent retirement 182 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: of Serena Williams, the US Tennisse sees and die in 183 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: need of a new face. While Tiafo does only have 184 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: a fifty one career win percentage, he is twenty three 185 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: and nine this year and picked up his first non 186 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: hard court title when taking the US Men's Clay Court Championships. 187 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see if he can continue that 188 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 2: momentum against Mussetti, a very formidable sixth seed. So yes, 189 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: I do give a wow. 190 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: Okay, then yeah that concludes us. 191 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: There you go, do you'll give a give? 192 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: And uh, well, just in time, donty, because I see 193 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: our guest coming on the line, So let's bring him 194 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: on the Fusco Satellite Networks Satellite All right, I guess 195 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: today hosts his own show Feels with Jason Whitlock on 196 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Blaze Media to be on ESPN, FS one and a 197 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: bunch of other networks that quote unquote parted ways with him, 198 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: you know who knows what happened, but that does make 199 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: himself an expert on the topic we're about to discuss, 200 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: so let's bring him in. 201 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: Jason Whitlock, welcome back, come back to this show. 202 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 5: Yeah on the cry On put expert in parting ways? 203 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: Jason with about expert. 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's a it's a Chiron, so 205 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: congratulations on knowing this business. But Cryon does seem to 206 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: fit your style of media, so maybe it wasn't a 207 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: misspeaker anyway. 208 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: All right, let's just move on. You know, rough start 209 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: there for you, Jason, but we'll let you bring it. 210 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you can still make up ground here. 211 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: You only have twenty thirty years in TV. Maybe you 212 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: need one more. All right, let's start with the Skip 213 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: and Shannon breakup, right. You know, it sounds like they 214 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: really did not like each other at the end. There 215 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: you we all know you have worked on many debate 216 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: shows where you know, people started at the end to 217 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: let's say, take umbradge with you, you know, co host directors, producers, 218 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: network heads, wardrobe people and means, yeah, but now we 219 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: want to know whose side of you taking care Skip 220 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: of Shannon's. 221 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 5: That's a tough tough because I think they both have, 222 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 5: you know, compelling arguments they both have aside to their story. 223 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: I didn't like the way Shannon handled the Damar Hamblin 224 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 5: deal and threw Skip Bayless under the bus. 225 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: I didn't like that at all. 226 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: I have to admit Shannon did become the driving force 227 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 5: on that show. He was the star of that show, 228 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 5: and I have to admit that. But did Shannon treat 229 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: Skip properly in my view? In my view the Damar 230 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: Hamblin situation, throwing him under a bus, I didn't like 231 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: that at all, and I understand why that doom the 232 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: relationship from Skip's point of view, Uh, you know, Skip's controlling, 233 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 5: uh treated you know, I think, in Shannon's mind, treated 234 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 5: Shannon as inferior and a stepchild for seven straight years 235 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 5: and probably should have given up some ground and made 236 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: it more of a fifty to fifty relationship in terms 237 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 5: of topics on the show and things like that. 238 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 4: I think Shannon had earned that. You know, he was 239 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: the star of that show. 240 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: That is the longest we've ever let anyone talk on 241 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: the show. So congratulations to. 242 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: You, because I admittedly took a nap during that answer. 243 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, but okay, anyway, you know he's onto something, right. 244 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: We got a problem with these athletes on TV. 245 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: You know exactly what I was gonna say. 246 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, these Hall of Fame athletes, they think they know 247 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: more than journalists. 248 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: Because yeah, they've been in the locker rooms and on 249 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: the field. 250 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: So what that doesn't that doesn't mean they know more 251 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: than journalists exactly. 252 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: So isn't Shannon from a journalistic point of view, actually 253 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: inferior to Skip? 254 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: It? 255 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: What about journalists from a journalation's point of view? No 256 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: question about it. 257 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: There you go. 258 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 5: Look, I thought it was a terrible look the way 259 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: Shannon turned into a groupie for Lebron James. 260 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: Shannon's a Hall. 261 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: Of Fame NFL player, and he went on TV for 262 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 5: five six straight years pretending to be a Lebron James groupie. 263 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: I thought that was beneath Shannon, and it certainly isn't 264 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 5: journalistically sound. And so yeah, skip the superior journalist, but Shannon, 265 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: the superior personality. 266 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: That is so well said. 267 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: You know, this is again agreement. 268 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Forget the debate, agreement, This embrace debate is stupid. That's 269 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: why we're saying, erase debate. This is what should be two, 270 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, three people getting together to agree on Yes. 271 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: No more embrace debate. That's over. 272 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 5: Let me say this, didn't you I thought it was 273 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: hilarious when Shannon grabbed a Kleenex on his last day 274 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 5: and I thought he was wiping away tears. 275 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 4: Skip, when you lay your head down tonight, I just 276 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: want you to see one thing. Give everything I had. 277 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: I give you everything. That was comical to me. 278 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 5: It was like, hold on, man, y'all weren't a war, 279 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 5: y'all weren't playing football or basketball games. 280 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 4: But I give you everything. Wow. 281 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm kind of moved by this recreation so on 282 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: very emotions, sand and Sharp was faking it? 283 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? 284 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, those two you can't be liking tweets calling Skip 285 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: a piece of doodoo and then the next day beyond 286 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 5: air about I love you Skip, thank you so much. 287 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Wow, send this to the sports on me. 288 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: That's what he was doing exactly, and it was a 289 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 5: performance where Skip is a bit more authentic. 290 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: You know, Tony, I do agree Skip Bayless. 291 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: When I think of authenticity in this business, I think 292 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: of Skip Bayless, you know. 293 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: And I also think of you, Jason. And you don't 294 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: want to know why, because. 295 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Even when you have takes that are terrible, you stick 296 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: by them. Ye. I started an article you posted today. 297 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: Here was the title of the article. 298 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this to you, Nicola Djokitch's indifference to 299 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: NBA greatness speaks to the pitfall of globalism. 300 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: So that thanks the question. 301 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: When you wrote that article, were you trying to get 302 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: as few people to read it as humanly possible? 303 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: No? I was not. 304 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 5: I was trying to use sports to make a bigger 305 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: point about society at large. That's what I do all 306 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 5: the time, Guys. 307 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: Sounds fascinating. But all right, I keep going, yeah, go ahead, 308 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: I want to hear this. Take it. 309 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: So, I was connecting it to the larger thing that's 310 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: going on at large. 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: When you start bringing in foreign talent and. 312 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 5: Different cultures to America, you start losing the identity of 313 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: your institutions like the NBA or whatever. 314 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: You know, I got giving me. You wrote this whole article. 315 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: I got two words to refute it. 316 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: Yep. 317 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: Give it to him, Tony. 318 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid, There you go. 319 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid comes over to this country and immediately wins 320 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: a title. And of course we're talking about the scoring title. Yes, 321 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: more intensive than an NBA title. You gotta beat five 322 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: hundred players. 323 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: You can rely on your. 324 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: Team, you can't have your teammates do it for you. 325 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Now, what do you say, Joel Embiid proves you're totally wrong? 326 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: Did you listen to the Doc Rivers interview with Bill Simmons. 327 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Boy, stop listening to Doc Rivers on not in the 328 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: middle of Game seven. 329 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: Just like the rest of the Sixers. 330 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: Those guys are hard to coach. 331 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 5: Man, Joel Embid, you know, good player, but I don't 332 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 5: think he takes the game seriously enough. 333 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Uh, scoring title, thirty three points a game. 334 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your scoring average? From what I heard of 335 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: going on in Los Angeles? 336 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: It's zero? 337 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, zero in Los Angeles. 338 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we heard your Saturday nights are pretty empty there, 339 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: whitlock yep in Nashville too. 340 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: That's accurate. 341 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: See, that's see, that's called journalism. That's how you do 342 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: it right there, how you do a journalism learn wit Locksley. 343 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: We did the backstory. 344 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: I am now on the subject. 345 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Of journal journalism. You're gonna you're gonna love this. In fact, 346 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna kick yourself for not realize watch this. You know, 347 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: you know you're you like a conspiracy, right you do. 348 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: But you're kind of you kind of whiffed on this one. 349 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you're in the past week, we've seen 350 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: two players, two athletes from the same random country win 351 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: major championships. You got Novak Djokovic, a Serbian, He goes 352 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: and wins the French Open. Then you got another Serbian, 353 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: Nicola Djokick, he wins the NBA Finals. It makes no 354 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: sense how this random country is producing all these dominant 355 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: athletes unless you look at one thing. Jason Chernobyl nuclear 356 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: accident forty years ago, and then of a sudden, now 357 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: you've got genetic mutations now appearing in the population. Over there, 358 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: you got a seven footer who can shoot three points 359 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: like a small person. Makes no sense unless you think 360 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: about it, your thoughts. 361 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to give this some thought. 362 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: This some thought, man, This this is like, uh well, 363 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: the first time I ever saw a loose change about 364 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: nine to eleven. 365 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: It blew my mind. 366 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: See, he's jealoustony, he's jealous. So now he's jealous. 367 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 5: Maybe the nuclear thing has, you know, empowered these guys 368 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 5: and made them special athletes. 369 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to give this some thought. 370 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: I just come in and admit it's a folly Tony. 371 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: That is the finest piece of journalism I've ever heard. 372 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: I bowed nothing close to it. Yeah. 373 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to say that. 374 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: See I know it, I know it. 375 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: You know. 376 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: Let me just tell yourself and Jason, you got your 377 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: egos too big, But you know it's all so big. 378 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: It's the door and I'm gonna throw you right out 379 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: of it right now because you're up this show show. 380 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 5: I just got done exercising. I need to go eat. 381 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: I'm exercising my right. 382 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, exercise in your off the show from possessing 383 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: the show. 384 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: See ya, you know what this means? 385 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: Oh, get out of here, Jay, Hang up the phone. 386 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Number one. 387 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: Number one is what that means? 388 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: Off the line, Jay, hang up the phone. 389 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: They have it people. 390 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: That's officially the nineteenth show that Jason Whitlock has been 391 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: thrown off of. 392 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: YEP, at some point we got to witlock him out 393 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: of the show. He can't come on anymore. 394 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: They're well said, Tony. 395 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: Know that a great way to turn around, because it's 396 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: otherwise a terrific show. 397 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: As always. 398 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Of course, we want to thank you good friends, our 399 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: sponsor out Back Steady, thank you. 400 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: If it isn't someone I want to take out Back and. 401 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: One, Oh produce it, Jay, What do you want? 402 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 6: Corrections? 403 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: What? 404 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 4: What? 405 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: Hurry up? 406 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 6: You said the eighty six Celtics were better than this 407 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 6: year's Nuggets because they had more Hall of Famers. 408 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, yeah totally. 409 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 6: But you do realize all those Celtics players weren't Hall 410 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 6: of famers when they were playing, so that argument is 411 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 6: just plain idiotic. 412 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I'd like to see you on a 413 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: plane that crashes. 414 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to be like most play is in 415 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Dead Yeah done, that's it. No more, 416 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: We're done. 417 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 6: No, you said Serbian athletes are so dominant because of 418 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 6: the nuclear effects of Chernobyl. 419 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, crazy, upsetting, but true. 420 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, if that even was true. Nuclear radiation doesn't make 421 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: it stronger. You only see that happen in comic books, 422 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 6: not in real life. 423 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well you know what else you only see 424 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: in comic books nerds like you. 425 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what's also not in real life? 426 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: Your girlfriend. Yeah, he's done. Let's get out of it here, 427 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: we're done. 428 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 6: By the way, what you do realize why there's no 429 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 6: such country called Serbia thirty years ago? 430 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: It's mysterious, bro, very mysterious. 431 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 6: Serbia was part of Yugoslavia, then it declared independence in 432 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 6: two thousand and six. But I shouldn't be surprised if 433 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 6: you don't know that though. 434 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, speaking of surprises, wait until you start 435 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: your car tonight. 436 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, forget Yugo Slavia, it's gonna be you go kabu 437 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: me ya. You're done. 438 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: Great, he's done. He's so he sid he's terrified. Oh 439 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: but hey, here's something not to be terrified of. What 440 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: it's got Some big nose across my desk, hed, what 441 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: do we got next week? Booked on the show super 442 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: Bowl hero Eagle's legend Nick Foles will be Wow, that's 443 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: your going to that. In the meantime, don't forget follow 444 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: us on Dick Doc, subscribe on the yodog into. 445 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: Wal Up Many. We're all over Fox Sports Radio so 446 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: we make even more money. We go and donate. Great 447 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: job as always, same to. 448 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: You, Bully, another floorless show. 449 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: There you go. We'll see people next week. 450 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: See uh