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Speaker 1: God bless football, Mikey.

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Speaker 2: A god blessed football, Taylor, god bless football.

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Speaker 3: Stude.

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Speaker 4: Guys, why are you raising your arm? Taylor? What's happening there?

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Speaker 3: Because I gotta bring the energy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, bring the energy you have just by raising your

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Speaker 1: arm in an audio media, Trey Wing, I'll get to

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Speaker 1: join us it just a minute here. I love talking

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Speaker 1: ball with Trey, I do. I just like talking football

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Speaker 1: with Trey. Trey made news last time he was on

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Speaker 1: with us talking about the stuff he would do at ESPN,

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Speaker 1: and what a bunch of nonsense it was leading up

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Speaker 1: to the games. He doesn't like previewing games, but he

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Speaker 1: likes breaking down the games after they are played. We

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Speaker 1: had a full weekend of football.

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Speaker 4: Taylor. Please put this on the pole.

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Speaker 1: Did the Dolphins win despite their head coach who enjoyed

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Speaker 1: dam Darnold's four interceptions? More Sean mcvayh or Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 4: That a great question. You know, gonna loved them?

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Also put this on the poll. Did the Steelers win

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Speaker 4: the battle and lose the war? They did?

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Speaker 6: Was?

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Speaker 4: Dolphins Commanders?

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Speaker 1: The first time you were ever upset that you were

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Speaker 1: getting free football?

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Speaker 2: Panthers and Falcons went into overtime too. Just say it.

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Speaker 3: So. Panthers Falcons went into overtime as the Chiefs Broncos

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Speaker 3: game was starting, and I'm watching Panthers Falcons and I go,

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Speaker 3: I don't really need to see how this one ends,

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Speaker 3: and I flipped it over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather see the opening second, the opening drive

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Speaker 2: of Chiefs Broncos, than the overtime win for one of

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Speaker 2: those two teams.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: Put this on the poll.

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Speaker 1: Did you think Josh Allen was done after we threw

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Speaker 1: that interception out of his own end zone? On the

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Speaker 1: next question, Taylor, the next question needs to be on

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Speaker 1: the timeline six touchdowns later? Did you regret thinking that

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Speaker 1: that fucking guy is an animal man? Seriously, Jesus Christy

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Speaker 1: is good. Buffalo is good. I'm sorry I doubted you

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, just for a second.

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Speaker 4: I did. But that interception out of his own end

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Speaker 4: zone was terrible.

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Speaker 3: Not sold on Buffalo, not sold on, not sold on.

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Speaker 2: I am all the way sold on Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: He is.

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Speaker 2: He is as good as as we're going to see

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Speaker 2: in this era. But Buffalo is not good.

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Speaker 1: But if you have Josh Allen, don't you have a chance.

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Speaker 1: I understand what you guys are saying. You you listen,

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Speaker 1: max belief in Josh Allen. I understand that you don't

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Speaker 1: believe so much in the team that's surrounding Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: But they have Josh Allen. Yeah, okay, Well that's a

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Speaker 1: big thing they have. I mean, they have the most

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Speaker 1: important thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if Josh Allen sprains his ankle and his

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Speaker 2: out for a series, it's a three and out.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's Mitch Trubisky.

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Speaker 5: That's what I.

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Speaker 3: Said, three and out or if you tell me that,

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Speaker 3: if they tell me should that'd be the new name

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Speaker 3: for three and out.

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Speaker 4: Just Mitchell Trubisky.

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Speaker 3: Come on, what do you think he's a pro bowler?

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Speaker 2: For abisky and out?

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Speaker 4: He's a tar heel. That's about it.

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Speaker 3: If you're telling me that the Bills formula to win

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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl is Josh Allen scoring forty five points

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Speaker 3: for three straight games, I'm gonna bet against that more

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Speaker 3: more times than not.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's totally fair.

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Speaker 1: But they do have that position, and that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: important position to have.

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Speaker 4: What'd you guys make?

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Speaker 1: So the reports down here are that the Dolphins because

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Speaker 1: Stephen Ross, I mean, you'd be crazy to try to

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Speaker 1: get yourself out of the Tua contract.

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Speaker 4: You can't get yourself out of the Tua contract.

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Speaker 1: That because Mike McDaniel was the head coach when Tua

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Speaker 1: had the best season two has ever had as a

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. The reports down here are he can't get out.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Ross can knot get out of the fifty plus

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Speaker 1: million dollar Tua contract. Therefore, he wants to bring Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel and to a back next season because the only

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Speaker 1: guy who's gotten anything out of Tua is Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: That is crazy, I mean, but that's what the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: fans are headed towards next year, the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that they're going to have to

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Speaker 2: try and sell a GM on. Hey, come on in,

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Speaker 2: here's your coach. I know he hasn't been good, And

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Speaker 2: here's your quarterback. We know he's not good. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: he's also paid, So don't worry. You're just handcuffed.

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Speaker 4: Right, who's going to take you a job? Right? Yes? Hey,

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Speaker 4: I get to choose my head coach, right?

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Speaker 7: Nah?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: How about like what? Nah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But guess what both?

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Speaker 2: Whatever d tackle you want, you go get him we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna say We're not gonna We're not gonna fight

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Speaker 2: you a little bit. You pick the d tackle you want.

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Speaker 3: So I was disappointed in that news just because I

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Speaker 3: kind of want to see Mike McDaniel with a like

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Speaker 3: a really good quarterback and the chance for him to

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Speaker 3: have a good quarterback. Like in Stutata Company, we talked

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Speaker 3: about Todd Bowles. Should Todd Bowles be on his way

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Speaker 3: out of Tampa, imagine Mike McDaniel with Baker Mayfield or

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Speaker 3: on the Giants. Imagine Mike McDaniel with somebody like Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dark Malik Neighbors. Like, there's a lot of possibilities where

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Speaker 3: I think you could put Mike McDaniel and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden that team goes from like a fringe team

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Speaker 3: to a contender. But you're stuck with with Tua and

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Speaker 3: not looking good. This never happens in the NFL, And

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Speaker 3: it blows my mind. Why don't someone like Rex Ryan

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Speaker 3: and Mike McDaniel form a super like, Hey, I got

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Speaker 3: the defense, you got the offense, and let's just let's

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Speaker 3: just do this thing and let's just let's just win games.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, what are you trying to build here like

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Speaker 4: a super staff. I mean, what do you?

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Speaker 5: What do you?

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you want two head coaches, right, it's no.

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, right Rex Ryan and Mike McDaniel. When

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Speaker 2: one wants to go one way and the other like,

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Speaker 2: come on, who's winning that argument? Mike McDaniel is not

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Speaker 2: telling Rex sit down, We're doing it my way.

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Speaker 5: That's not happening.

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Speaker 2: But no, it's more of just I know what I am.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm a defensive minded guy. I know I'm

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Speaker 2: the guy that's going to have this plan for the defense.

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Speaker 2: But I know nothing about offense. You obviously know nothing

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Speaker 2: about offense. Why don't you just do that? I'll do

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Speaker 2: this and we'll go we'll go win some games.

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Speaker 1: Are we certain Mike McDaniel knows offense? I mean, he

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Speaker 1: put up thirteen points against a really lousy defense.

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Speaker 2: Did it with Tua?

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Speaker 5: So, Mike?

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Speaker 4: You so is his guy?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No, that's where you guys get listen. This is why

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Speaker 1: this conversation is frustrating. Mike McDaniel set himself to what

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Speaker 1: the perfect quarterback for my offense? That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: He's stuck with that, he has to live with that.

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Speaker 1: He ain't getting another quarterback, not as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: It's Tua or bust. That's it for McDaniel. He's never

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Speaker 1: gonna get another head coaching opportunity again unless he makes

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Speaker 1: it work with Do you guys think if the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: come back next year with McDaniel and Tua and they

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Speaker 1: have another lousy season and McDaniels gets fired, do you

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Speaker 1: think Mike McDaniel will ever be a head coach in

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Speaker 1: the NFL again?

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Speaker 5: No? No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I can't see it. He should be, but he could

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Speaker 2: be a half a head coach.

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Speaker 4: Wait, why should with Rex being the other half? Of course?

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Speaker 2: Oh Rex, it doesn't have to be Rex, but just

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Speaker 2: Eddy ol Rex, edny Ol Rexy.

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Speaker 3: So, Mike, I'm confused. Do you want two head coaches

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Speaker 3: or do you want no head coach and two coordinators?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I want.

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Speaker 2: I want one coach to have fifty one percent of

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Speaker 2: the say, but I want him to understand, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to touch the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm only gonna do the defense.

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Speaker 4: But who has the fifty one percent in this equation?

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Speaker 4: Is it McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: Listen, If it was McDaniel and Rex, it's gonna be Rex.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you let McDaniel think that he has the

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent.

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Speaker 5: But it's an example.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying some of the some of these coordinators,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, some of these really good

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Speaker 2: one side of the ball coordinators.

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Speaker 1: Tell I'm not certain what kind of fucking staff he's

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Speaker 4: I have no idea. Let's bring in Trey Wing go

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Speaker 4: and ask him. Stercott's here.

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Speaker 7: And that's basically his way of saying, yeah, he didn't

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Speaker 7: You know, it's funny. One of the things I love

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Speaker 7: I think they're averaging three point eight yards per carry,

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Speaker 5: I really like that about their team makeup.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five rushes yesterday, one hundred and thirty five yards, Like,

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Speaker 7: Right, No, they stay with it, and so many teams

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Speaker 4: Yep, Taylor has a staff from that game yesterday. Go ahead, Taylor.

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Speaker 7: and they're like, yeah, I mean, no matter what Sam does,

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Speaker 7: he's not staying. So it was more probably the ownership

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Speaker 7: group was breathing a sigh of relief than maybe Kevin

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Speaker 7: O'Connell about the four interceptions yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Did the Vikings have a problem with JJ McCarthy, Jj

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Speaker 1: McCarthy good.

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Speaker 5: We don't know yet.

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Speaker 4: I know, we don't know.

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Speaker 5: My favorite thing about our old employer or stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: Then in the Monday night game between the Bears and

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Speaker 7: the Vikings to start the season, and JJ McCarthy was

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Speaker 7: ass and then in the second half was better. The

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Speaker 7: next morning on Get Up, who would you rather have?

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Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy or callable.

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Speaker 6: Like, what are we doing? It's one game, It's one game.

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Speaker 6: He was terrible for half the game. What in the

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Speaker 6: hell are we actually doing? God almighty, what.

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Speaker 4: Was your answer? I mean, bad question? Was the answer?

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Speaker 5: Bad topic? Find something that makes sense?

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Speaker 4: That's how you do it, Trey.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 5: He is all about which is why we do this? Instead?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: After every week this season I've redrafted that twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 5: Where are you right now?

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Speaker 3: So Drake may is holding onto that number one spot,

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Speaker 3: but man, it's Caleb Williams is looking like he could

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Speaker 3: take it back any moment.

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Speaker 5: Now. I agree with that, although let me ask you

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Speaker 5: guys this.

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Speaker 7: I was shocked when they had a chance to win

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Speaker 7: the game that on second and seven and third and

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Speaker 7: seven they basically ran dive plays. Ben Johnson is supposed

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Speaker 7: to be this guru, this offensive genius. Look at all

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Speaker 7: the trick plays he had in Detroit. The stumbleplay, you

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Speaker 7: do two dive flaves to set up basically a fifty

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Speaker 7: yard field goal. See to me, that's the difference between

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Speaker 7: doing a hot shot coordinator being a head coach. Right Suddenly,

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Speaker 7: that sphincter factor gets a little tighter when you're the

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Speaker 7: man in charge of everything. I could not believe the

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Speaker 7: two plays to set up the game winning field goals,

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Speaker 7: Thank god he made it were two dive plays. Like

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Speaker 7: I was like, come on, man, you're Ben Johnson, pull

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Speaker 7: something out of there.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's get another ten yards to make this not

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, are we going to get there?

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Speaker 2: Are you saying? If Ben Johnson was the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: It's a triple reverse right there, and not a dive for.

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Speaker 7: Someone where Caleb pretends to fall down and flips it

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Speaker 7: behind his back to swift outfield right exactly.

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Speaker 5: It's something completely different. But when it's all on your shoulders, let's.

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Speaker 2: Just get it out of here.

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Speaker 4: He's doing a pretty good job, though, let's come doing great.

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Speaker 5: He's doing great, he absolutely is. I wish I could

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Speaker 5: not believe how conservative those two calls were.

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Speaker 1: Though two teams faced each other yesterday, I was confused

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Speaker 1: about these two teams headed into the game, and I

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Speaker 1: left the game more confused than I was before the game.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers of Jaguars.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how about this.

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Speaker 7: With the loss, the Chiefs are now two games behind Jacksonville,

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Speaker 7: crazy and two and a half because they they won

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Speaker 7: the head to head essentially for the for that, for that,

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Speaker 7: for that tiebreaker spot. Right yeah, Jacksonville every week is

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Speaker 7: a mystery. Like they're kind of like green Bay. Like

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Speaker 7: green Bay, it's Jamis Winston, okay, like you guys are

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Speaker 7: supposed to be good like for a good team. The

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Speaker 7: Packers have the most two most inexplicable losses on their schedule.

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Speaker 7: They lost to the Browns and the Panthers, like, and

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Speaker 7: I get it, the Panthers are now and you know

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Speaker 7: they're in first place or right up there in the

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Speaker 7: NFC South, but like, they have those two inexplicable losses,

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Speaker 7: and I don't know what to make of I don't

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Speaker 7: know what to make of Jacksonville. I will give the

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Speaker 7: Chargers a little bit of a pass because have you

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Speaker 7: seen the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Rankings when they put them out there on the primetime games?

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Speaker 7: Thirty six out of thirty six for the left tackle,

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Speaker 7: thirty seven out of thirty.

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Speaker 4: Nine for the right guard.

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Speaker 7: They are they have Walt and ray Shawn Slater both

524
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Speaker 7: out for the year with you know, debilitating injuries, so

525
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Speaker 7: they're making it up as they go along.

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Speaker 5: But that was a stinker across the board.

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Speaker 1: Are those losses you just pointed out worse than the

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Speaker 1: Bills two losses Atlanta and the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: I just the NFL is crazy, tray.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well the Dolphins made the Dolphins one made no sense.

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Speaker 7: But see the Bills do that every year they beat

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Speaker 7: they beat the Chiefs, which is their regular season super Bowl,

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Speaker 7: and then they suffered these letdowns. And I thought for

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Speaker 7: a while the Tampa Bay might go in there and

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Speaker 7: steal that game until Josh said, effet, I'm putting up

536
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Speaker 7: a six pack, you know. And he's the first quarterback

537
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Speaker 7: to have six touchdowns in a game since Josh Allen

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Speaker 7: last year. Three touchdowns on the ground, three touchdowns for

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Speaker 7: the year. He's a freak man, he really is.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of confusing teams, Carolina, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, good for Bryce Young, I know, good for

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Speaker 7: Bryce Young. What four hundred yards in that game?

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Speaker 4: I think? So?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a better record than Kansas City and

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Speaker 1: Buffalop I mean, think about that.

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Speaker 5: That's ridiculous. I mean, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: They've they've been gamers, you know, they've they've they've found

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Speaker 7: a way to make it work.

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Speaker 5: And that division is completely winnable at this point.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yes, I love Tampa Bay, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 7: but they've they've faltered a lot after that great start,

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Speaker 7: and they've had some injuries which has obviously been limiting

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Speaker 7: to them.

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Speaker 5: But why not, Carolina? What the hell man?

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Speaker 7: That that division is not There's not a there's not

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Speaker 7: a tremendous team in that division.

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Speaker 4: If you're the Bengals now you're at three and seven.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are in first place, the Ravens might not

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Speaker 1: lose the rest of the season. What do you do

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow if you're Cincinnati, you know, I.

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Speaker 7: Think until they're mathematically out of it, they're going to

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Speaker 7: bring him back. But like you know, the bigger issue

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Speaker 7: in Cincinnati is, Hey, Jamar Chase, have you seen the video? Like,

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Speaker 7: I don't care what you said, it's pretty obvious you

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Speaker 7: spat on him.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I've seen it.

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Speaker 7: Like he's like, oh, I didn't do that, and then

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Speaker 7: we saw the video, but you did, and he's probably

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Speaker 7: gonna get suspended for that.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: I judge by the reaction in those cases, right, because

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Speaker 1: when someone spits it, it's like the worst thing you

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Speaker 5: And I love Jalen's response, They spinning me after that?

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Speaker 4: Day, Paul, what do you make of that? Look?

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, it's a zero sum game, right.

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Speaker 7: He was nine to seven and one his first year

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Speaker 7: and eleven and thirty three since.

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Speaker 5: And I understand not all of that is his fault.

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Speaker 7: And I understand that they had quarterback issues up until

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Speaker 7: this year. But if you don't win, you don't stay.

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Speaker 7: It's just that simple, and he just they haven't figured

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Speaker 7: it out now. I don't think it was his fault.

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Speaker 7: They let's sake one Barkley go. I think that was

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Speaker 7: more the general manager and you know you can make

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Speaker 7: the case. Okay, you finally give him a first round

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Speaker 7: pick with a quarterback. Let's ride that out for a

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Speaker 7: little bit. But eleven and thirty three is eleven and

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Speaker 7: thirty three, right, they had it was great that first

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Speaker 7: year and ever since then it's been a struggle.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he's a combative guy.

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Speaker 7: I you know, I don't think that when you know

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Speaker 7: how to do Gott's When you're winning, everything's good.

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Speaker 5: But when you're losing, everything.

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Speaker 7: Annoys you, right, And you know, you could see the

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Speaker 7: way he acts around certain people and you're like, God,

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Speaker 7: that guy's kind of a dick, when really, if you're winning,

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Speaker 7: you're like, oh, I fucking love the passion, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: It's was the coolest fucking coach in the world. He

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Speaker 1: has it changed a bit, and that was a dork.

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Speaker 7: I mean yeah, well, now I will say this like

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Speaker 7: Rex Ryan calling him a nerd and Stephen A Smith

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Speaker 7: saying he looks like the geek squad guy. Can we

643
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Speaker 7: just like get away from that? Can we just say

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Speaker 7: it's not working as a head coach?

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Speaker 5: What's what?

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Speaker 7: Why do you feel the need to denigrate him like

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Speaker 7: he's a thirteen year old.

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Speaker 5: In a science class. I do not understand that part

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 3: Gray, What did you think of four and six Bill

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Speaker 3: Belichick saying I'm not interested in any NFL jobs?

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Speaker 4: I think that after pursuing all like that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think that's Bill Belichick realizing nobody has an

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Speaker 7: interest in him anymore, if we're being honest about it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, like, you know, I know when people like

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Speaker 7: I haven't played for a year and they say they're retiring. No, bro,

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Speaker 7: you were retired. You're not retiring.

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Speaker 5: You were retired as a player, and now.

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Speaker 7: You're just acknowledging it. And I think that's what we're

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Speaker 7: seeing with Bill. Like I do believe the Giants would

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Speaker 7: be the only job he would really love, or go

662
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Speaker 7: somewhere where he has a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: But with the way it.

664
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Speaker 7: Ended in New England and the control issues and the

665
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Speaker 7: way things are going in North Carolina, it would be

666
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Speaker 7: hard pressed for someone to say, hey, let's bring him

667
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Speaker 7: back into this NFL this day and Age.

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Speaker 1: Trey, I like you in your post ESPN career being

669
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Speaker 1: some sort of espno budsman. I do like you made

670
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Speaker 1: news last time you said this shit, You're gonna make

671
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Speaker 1: news again, I love it.

672
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Speaker 7: I just I mean, look, can we just I knew

673
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: that I was going in a different direction from ESPN

674
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 7: twenty years ago.

675
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'll tell you a great story.

676
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 7: Remember when Tara Owans did the whole with the Eagles.

677
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 7: He walked out and did the whole workout in the

678
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 7: driveway and all that.

679
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: Kind of stuff.

680
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So that happened one day, and

681
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 7: then nothing happened for three days, right, and we were like, well,

682
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 7: nothing's going on, so let's talk about things that are

683
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 7: going on on NFL Live. And a I think he's

684
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 7: still there. The executive called me into his off and said, hey,

685
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 7: help me out. Sports Center led with Tarall Owans today,

686
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 7: and you guys did do it on NFL Live.

687
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: Why not? I said, well, what happened today with Taro Loans?

688
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: I said, well nothing, but it's a topic.

689
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, so you mcguan and say, hey, Tara

690
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 7: Loans did nothing today. Meanwhile, onto the Giants. You know,

691
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 7: like I was going to do things that were actually happening.

692
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 7: If something happened with Tara Lowans, I'm happy to talk

693
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 7: about it. But since nothing happened, how much time out

694
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Speaker 7: of a thirty minute show devoted to football. Do you

695
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 7: want me to say, Hey, here's nothing that happened, but

696
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 7: tarall Owens, he's a name.

697
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Speaker 5: So you know.

698
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Speaker 7: I mean the two thousand World Series Stu Gots between

699
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 7: the Yankees and the Mets, Game one, I think it

700
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: was when Roger Clemens the bat broke and he threw

701
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Speaker 7: it at Mike Piazza.

702
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah he threw it, yeah, piece of it, Yeah, a

703
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: piece of it. Right.

704
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 7: Well, the Yankees had just won I think they're fourteenth

705
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 7: straight or twelfth straight World Series game at that point,

706
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 7: longest record in the history of baseball. They wanted to

707
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 7: lead the six Flock Sports Center the next day with

708
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 7: Mike Piazza and the bat and Roger Clemens throwing the

709
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 7: piece of bat at him. I'm like, why, like, why

710
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 7: is that the most important thing when they just set

711
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 7: a record for the most consecutive World Series games one?

712
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 7: To me, that seems like that carries a lot more

713
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Speaker 7: weight than somebody taking a bat. And then oh and

714
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 7: like here's the thing, and oh, by the way, this

715
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: other funny thing happened. They wanted to make the bat

716
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Speaker 7: the centerpiece of everything for that hour sports and I

717
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 7: was like, all right, I guess it's your call. Man.

718
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: So you led with the bats, Yeah, we did.

719
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Speaker 5: Really led with a freaking bat.

720
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Speaker 4: You're still upset about it.

721
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Speaker 5: It just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.

722
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: It does though. It's fireworks. Fans like that stuff. You

723
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: know that.

724
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Speaker 7: I well, you know, I'd rather talk about It's like,

725
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 7: it's like when we show the outfits of all the

726
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 7: players as they walk into the stadiums Now, I am

727
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 7: much more interested in what they do in their uniforms.

728
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 7: I do not care what they wear to the stadium.

729
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 7: I could not care less about that. I want to

730
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 7: I want to know what happens when they put on

731
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Speaker 7: their uniform for work. It's like, remember when Mark McGuire

732
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 7: was hitting all the home runs and they go to

733
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Speaker 7: Live to batting practice to watch him hit batty.

734
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Speaker 5: It's practice, okay.

735
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 7: And then then Odell, and when Odell made the catch

736
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 7: against the Cowboys. Yes, we'd show this is Odell warming up.

737
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 7: Look at this great catch in warm ups. I am

738
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: more interested in what happens after he's warmed up. That's

739
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Speaker 7: what That's what interests me.

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Speaker 4: Yes, straight fucking facts, homie. That mean's what it is.

741
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Speaker 7: I mean, let's let's do when the game clock starts

742
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 7: and when the game clock ends.

743
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Speaker 5: That's what interests me.

744
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: I love this tray Wingo.

745
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 5: I mean it's just, you know, seems logical to me.

746
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: Right. Why did you fist pump when you said I

747
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 4: love this tray Wingo?

748
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: Get my passion across.

749
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 7: I appreciate that, brother, I did the little tiger fist

750
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 7: bump right there.

751
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: Why is no one taking the Patriots seriously?

752
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: Have you seen her? They played?

753
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 7: I mean this this is I mean, this is you know,

754
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 7: Tom Brady said something really interesting, uh, earlier this season

755
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 7: or maybe it was last season, I came out to

756
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 7: talking about yeah, right exactly.

757
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 5: Let me rephrase that.

758
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: Tom said something that caught my attention when he was

759
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 7: talking about, oh, you know, these guys, you know, have

760
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 7: it so easy with the way things are now, and

761
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 7: I'm like, and Alex Smith, by the way, to his credit,

762
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Speaker 7: Alex Smith was the first one point that I said, Bro.

763
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Speaker 5: Tom, you had the cupcakest cupcake schedule of all.

764
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Speaker 7: Time when you were in the a f C. There

765
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 7: was not one time when Tom and Tom and Bill

766
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 7: were in the in the UH in the a f

767
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Speaker 7: C East that they had a team like Bonix and

768
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 7: Denver with Kansas City or Justin Herbert and the Chargers.

769
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Speaker 7: They never had any of that. They had Chad Pennington

770
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Speaker 7: for one or two years and what was the other

771
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 7: best quarterback.

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Speaker 1: In the year they did have the Colts, right right,

773
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: but that was one of the divisional realignment.

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Speaker 7: They actually worked there actually ninety eight ninety nine. Before

775
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 7: divisional re alignment, they never had anybody to go. So

776
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 7: it's very similar to what the Jets are what the

777
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 7: Patriots are going through right now. Look they're playing great,

778
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 7: don't get me wrong, but yeah, I'm gonna need to

779
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 7: see more, right.

780
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 4: I just feel bad for those teams.

781
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we finally have like a changing

782
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: of the guard in the AFC. You have the Colts

783
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: having a season no one expected them to have.

784
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 4: The Patriots having a season that no.

785
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: One expected them to have, and everyone wants Buffalo, Baltimore,

786
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Speaker 1: Kansas City and the Super Bowl.

787
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: It's crazy, it's nuts.

788
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 7: And look, if there's a lot of pressure on those

789
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 7: two teams that I just mentioned, Buffalo and Baltimore because

790
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 7: if this is the year that came, the city isn't

791
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: going to be there. This is your chance right, this

792
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 7: is your chance. You better take advantage of this window,

793
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 7: because I think there's a better I'd say it's probably

794
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 7: fifty to fifty that.

795
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: The Chiefs make the playoffs at this point.

796
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: And the way they're the way they're playing, the way

797
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: they're playing, right, I'll tell you who I think is

798
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: going to be there a lot is the Eagles, Like

799
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there against right, they just keep winning

800
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: football games every single week they fight, they win, You're.

801
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 7: You're one hundred percent right, and and people like when

802
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 7: you look at the stats, you know they did this wrong,

803
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 7: they did that wrong.

804
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 5: They won. It's all the matters.

805
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 7: It's like last year with the Chiefs, well it was

806
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 7: a block kick or a box snap, they won. They

807
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 7: found a way to win the game, which is which

808
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 7: is so funny talking about the Chiefs. They're the exact

809
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 7: opposite this year. They cannot find a way to win

810
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 7: a game. I know, and and give the Eagles credit,

811
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 7: like there it is clearly a mess between Jalen Hurts

812
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 7: and AJ Brown.

813
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 5: So much so that the Eagles have had to say

814
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: to a J.

815
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Speaker 7: Brown, please don't talk about this on social media anymore.

816
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 7: Like he's acknowledged that so there is a huge issue,

817
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 7: but it works because they're winning, and as long as

818
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 7: they win, you can put up with everything. Like Carson

819
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 7: Wentz was a guy when he was in Philadelphia that

820
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 7: some people had some questions about, but it was working

821
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 7: because it was winning, and once they started losing, it's.

822
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: Like that guy annoys the crap out of me.

823
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 7: It's amazing how quickly things change when you're winning as

824
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 7: opposed to when you're losing. So at the end of

825
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 7: the day, the Eagles are doing what is necessary and

826
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 7: as long as they do that, you know they're going

827
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 7: to be tough to beat. Although I do think the

828
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 7: Rams might be the team when it's all said and

829
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 7: done out of the NFC.

830
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: I like to see that Rams Eagles NFC championship game.

831
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: That's the game.

832
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 7: I mean, if yeah, if you think about it last

833
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 7: year and again, the Eagles earned the right because they

834
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 7: had the better record.

835
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Speaker 5: The snow changed that game completely. I mean, the way

836
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: the Rams want to attack and the way the Eagles

837
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: wanted to attack me.

838
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 7: They wanted to pound you with Saquon and they did,

839
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 7: and what the Rams did best was nullified by the way.

840
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 7: Now the Eagles earned the right to have that happen

841
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 7: because they had the better record. But if that game

842
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 7: didn't have snow, I think the Rams might have beaten

843
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 7: him last year in the division round.

844
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Speaker 1: Did you feel bad for Shador Sanders yesterday any part

845
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: of you?

846
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 7: I feel bad for the people that were so hyping

847
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 7: Schador Sanders.

848
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: Huh?

849
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean he.

850
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 7: Completed his first two passes and then went two of fourteen. Yes,

851
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 7: with a saxope look. And I want to be fair

852
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 7: to him here. Sure he didn't have he probably didn't

853
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 7: get a lot of reps. He probably didn't do all

854
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 7: those things. But you know, it's pretty evident if you

855
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 7: watch that game and the way he played in the

856
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 7: second half as to why the coaching staff may have

857
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 7: had some reservations about putting them in there.

858
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: Yet now he may have to play this week because

859
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 5: we don't know.

860
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 7: Once you have a concussion, you're in the protocol and

861
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 7: there's no gray area there.

862
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 5: You either passed the protocols or you don't. It's that simple.

863
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 7: And hopefully if that's the case, he'll get a good

864
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 7: week of practice with the ones and maybe we'll see

865
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 7: a much better and a much different.

866
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: Shadoor Sanders out there.

867
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 7: But for all the people that were clamoring for him

868
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 7: to play, I think you saw an indication.

869
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's a binding indication.

870
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 7: Because of the situation why there might have been some

871
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 7: hesitancy to put him out there.

872
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 5: And I don't think that's a radical statement in any way,

873
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 5: shape or form.

874
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: Why they weren't social door one might say, you know.

875
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: Look at you, see you. You you're good. You you you're.

876
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Good, You're good. I don't think we have Trey Erna today.

877
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm very upset about this. It's uh, I don't know.

878
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: I don't think we did do we guys.

879
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: Know, we don't all right, good enough? You know whatever?

880
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: Want them too? You know, they really rushed to the

881
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: microphone when I have a question for him.

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Speaker 5: You know, does that right? Yeah, they stepped right up

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Speaker 5: to the mic.

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Speaker 1: I said, no, there you go, you're it asked all right,

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Speaker 1: tray straight facts Hold me?

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Speaker 4: Is the podcast check out? No golfing today? He's not golfing.

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Speaker 4: It's forty some odd degrees and it's windy.

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Speaker 5: At thirty miles an hour. The weather appset feels like

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Speaker 5: twenty three. Feels like I'll pass.

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Speaker 1: Stray Facts Hold me wherever you get your podcast. Check

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Speaker 1: about right there.

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Speaker 4: Trey Wingo the es Vinam Budtsman joins us.

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Speaker 1: Every couple of weeks to rip how we do it

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Speaker 1: in the media.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 7: Just just let's talk about the things that matters.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, Yes, let's keep pushing that message. There

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Speaker 4: you go, Okay, thank you, Drey.

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Speaker 5: You gotta guys,