WEBVTT - MC Classic: Silence of the Lambs 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.519 Hey everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush Friday Classic Edition. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.159 You know what that means, everybody is every once in 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.720 a while, I get caught with my proverbial pants down 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.519 and I had a guest cancel or something, and I 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.760 don't have one in the hopper. And I've had to 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.600 do this couple of times, and I appreciate your patients, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.599 but I always try and pick out a great classic episode. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.640 I think this is the third time I've done this. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.680 So this week I am going with one of my 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.920 favorite all time episodes when I got to sit down 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:00.840 with two of my uh professional peers and professional heroes, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.520 Karen killed Gareth and Georgia hard Stark of my favorite murder. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.119 That's right, everybody. If you're a murdering now, you've probably 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.880 heard this one already. But if not, get ready to 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.400 be delighted because I sat down with Karen and Georgia 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.120 at a great time a couple of years ago. It 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.319 out out in Los Angeles in person, and uh, they're 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.479 just so lovely and wonderful, and I think so much 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.920 about um, so much of what they've done, and there 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.120 rise to fame as podcasters and it's it's just a 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.720 great show. So check out My Favorite Murder if you haven't, 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.959 and listen to this episode right now where we not 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.640 only talk about podcasting and and all that other fun stuff, 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.240 but we have a great, great deep dive into the 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.959 classic thriller, one of their favorite films and mine the 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.320 Silence of the Lambs. Check it out right now and 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:55.600 we will be back next week with brand new episodes. Georgia. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:00.240 When you uh texted me to invite me to the 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.200 the Theater in Atlanta to tell a murder story, I 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.840 have never been more upset that I couldn't do something. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:12.840 Oh I was my in laws having like a birthday 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.800 party for one of my family members, and you know, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.120 you gave me like two hours, and I was just 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.679 so whenever you come to Atlanta, and I'll just be 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.000 kind of sitting by the phone, like with no plans. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.400 Whatsoever are we doing at next time? I don't think 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.120 so yeah, we well we'll be back to Georgia by 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:38.000 the way, coming to I thought you'd come to the Fox. Yes, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:42.680 we're super excited about it. Did you forget? We just 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.160 so kind of it's so huge that we kind of 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.920 ignore it and tell it's like the day before the Foxes, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.000 Like that's the big theater in Atlanta that grew up, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.680 the big beautiful that's what we didn't want. Were there 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.960 last time? No, No, I was so impressed by your 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.880 just now. I was like, how do you know that 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.520 we've done a Fox theater? The Fox Theater is what 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.919 we're doing in Oakland. Yeah, no, you're gonna be see 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.800 I know this. This is exactly how I was hoping 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:15.359 this would go. You're being so Georgia right now. Um No, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.600 you're gonna beat the Fox this fall in Atlanta and 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.800 last time you're at the Cobb Energy Center outside of Atlanta. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.280 That was a good show. That was super fun. Was 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.760 that the one where I almost resprained my ankle walking out, Oh, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.839 because we were sitting. I have tricked ankles too. So 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.160 it is so frustrating because it's a kind of thing 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.680 where when you're trying to travel with people and you 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.080 have a bad ankle, so you're like a little limpy 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.760 and a little slow anyway. But then on top of that, 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.080 like you do something dumb and then you're like, oh, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.560 I may have just resprained, Like I may have just 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.120 recreated this. You stepped off a curb and there was 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.360 no curb. Yes, but I was really mad because it 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.320 started to go downhill like it was a ramp. So 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.040 I assumed after four steps I would have been able 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.680 to step right and we would giving me on the ground. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.000 I don't blame you for that. Like, there was also 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.800 like a parking thing that I actually just drove over 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.360 in a parking garage just now. One of the what 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.120 are they called, like the stopper thing and create blocks, Yeah, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.280 the bumpers or whatever. Yeah, speed bricks. You know what 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:19.160 every place house? I thought you meant the scary fucking 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.520 clause that like rental car places don't back out. I 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.680 get scared driving over those going forward because I think 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.560 you're going the right way and the right way. You 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.800 don't trust yourself or the mechanism. I actually one time 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.640 was walking out of a parking structure and I was 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.799 so concerned I was going to step on that claw 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.120 and have it go through my foot that I wasn't 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.400 paying attention to the fact that the bar came down 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.800 on my head. Oh my god, because I was like 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.760 looking down like this and then and then all of 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.919 a sudden it was like a thing went gunk and 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.160 then down my face and then I took like one 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.080 more step in the lady that was in the booth. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:59.120 There's so many signs, don't walk here, don't know pedestrians, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.400 and I just lazed right up the center and then 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.320 she was like, I don't walk here, like just like 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.760 insult to injury. You're humiliated and hurt. And and then 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.240 she came in with use this information. Was like, thank 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.880 thank you, I think at the concussion, but thanks for 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.320 the reminder of the thing that I already forgotten. And 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.320 that's so Karen. You guys are already being so yourself. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.000 We didn't even know we were a certain kind of 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:30.119 person dip ships. It sounds like, well, and what stuff 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.160 you should know with us too. It's I'm sure, I 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.760 mean I can tell I can hear it on the show. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.680 There's a lot of this, like what the fund is happened, 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.080 because the whole podcast explosion in and of itself is 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.440 kind of weird because, like we're saying, ten years ago, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.440 I don't think I had a podcast, but I would 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.280 do them every once. While there were people that were 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.320 trying to start it. There was there were a lot 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.920 of people doing that. Remember that there was that old 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.360 It was called something Radio and it was like out 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.440 in Santa Monica and it was this big warehouse and 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.479 there was just like fifty different casks going at once. Yeah, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.240 basically the first wave. I remember watching other people doing it, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.760 like Greg Barren and David Anthony dealing doing projects and 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.920 then just sitting back going like, why are they trying 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.919 to do radio? This is weird and I'm supposed to 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.640 try to be on TV. I thought it was like 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.680 because I listened to them tenis years ago, maybe not 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.080 that many, but like I thought it was like NPR 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.480 style because it was all like a spark in life 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.880 and you like smart people ship. Yeah, So I didn't 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.440 know that it was like, you know, like just blabber. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.799 It wasn't like that. It was. It was smart people 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.520 a little bit more smartish stuff back then. But I 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.400 think like it's been busted wide open now and now 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.479 there's dingongs like because when they think everyone realized you 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.800 don't need some fancy producers, don't the studio necessarily, Yeah, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.680 you could just get a zoom and kind of slap 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:55.440 it up there and who cares, yea, and to the world, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.000 we're going to everybody box theater, boxes in your dress 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:05.560 has foxed, Oh my god, gosh, how was um? Now 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.599 you just got back from like didn't go to like 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.120 fucking Norway, to Europe and then went to the and 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.960 all over. Yeah, and people are coming out in those 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:20.360 weird countries. In Oslo, Norway, we had an audience full 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.600 of a theater full of people that were laughing in 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.800 all the right places. High my thing. I think I 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.040 only told you this once, maybe twice, but I was 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.640 positive because this is happening to stand ups that I 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.520 know when you go over there, your your sets are 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.400 insanely quiet, and even if they like you, they don't 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.880 respond to like Americans responded, not verbal. It's not the 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.040 same kind of yeah. So I know I warned you 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.760 at least once, but in my mind I was like, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.560 we're going to eat it royally in Scandinavia and we 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.360 just have to bear through it and then we'll get 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.640 into like London. I will be okay. And instead of 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.960 it being it was exactly the opposite. It was like 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.200 just as good, if not better than any show we've 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.800 done any Yes, sweet and I think was the best 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.520 like they were, but it was a lot of expats too, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.280 so it was a lot of people who were really 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.920 happy to have a show there that they could. It's 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.840 like a unifying element, the murderingos in one room. Yeah, exactly. Well, 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.880 we did the UK and Ireland two years ago and 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.480 no one had prepped me for because our experience in 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.360 London was what you were talking about is they're not 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.720 very outwardly expressive. And I think in Dublin, in fact, 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.720 I think we played the same theater. In Dublin they 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.200 were great, but um in London, I was just like, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.360 holy shit, they're not enjoying this. And after they would 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.880 come up to it and tell us how great it 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.040 was and what a fun night, and I was like, ki, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:43.120 guys need to show that they're dying up there, especially 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.560 when you're talking about child murders. And then no one's 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.400 making no one's laughing, which is like clear good. Yeah, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.760 but just the quietness of it all is like you 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.360 just start to think you're a terrible person. We're a 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.760 terrible person. But they're there for a reason, right, it's 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.760 the interests. But then normally we go into you know, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.680 kind of bad things. We try to avoid child murdering 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.760 live shows just because it's hard to come back from us, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:14.040 but exactly like, no, but remember when, But normally that 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.800 our conversation and our kind of banter brings it back up. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.720 And so that was my worry, was like we're going 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.760 to go down and never come back up, and then 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.080 it would just be like being at a funeral, like 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.520 a recorded funeral, where it's just like that's not the 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.880 point of any of this. But they get it. I 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.920 think it's also because these days people hear what other 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.000 shows sound like and they get almost like what their 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.400 part is a little bit yeah, and they're just so 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.120 delighted to be there in person, Like you know how, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.320 it's it's a very safe stage to walk out on. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.959 I'm sure the same preolitis for us. Like we can 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.640 funk it up in the middle and I can be like, well, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.160 that was the worst joke ever and Jerry of the 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.360 Future edit that out and everyone thinks it's hysterical and 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.680 I can't imagine going and doing stand up. But I 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.480 can look out in front of people and it's like 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.320 it's great. I'm not even nervous anymore because they're all 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.400 there to be supportive. That was a hard adjustment for 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.080 me in the beginning having done stand up when we 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:15.599 were first performing, it made I got super controlling because 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:21.280 I was expecting that they needed this this like very 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.640 um like accurate delivery jokes time dada and the craft, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.400 yeah and yeah and and like that we needed to Hey, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.880 if we do this, then we need to do that. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.439 And what I realized is not only is that not necessary, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.680 they want us to be doing it exactly what we 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.680 do in All they're looking for is to recreate the 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.199 experience in their ear holes. So their best buddies Karen 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.640 and Georgia hang. They just want to hang. They just 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.960 want to hang, yeah, which is a very nice, safe feeling. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.560 Were you like, dude, what are you doing? Stop managing this? Uh? 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.880 I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. Tell 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.120 me what? Like? Of course, I was like if I 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.080 don't listen to what Karen's like, advice sage advice as 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.120 I'm a fucking asshole because you're doing this and I 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.440 you know, I don't know what I'm I've never done. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:10.839 I've done like storytelling shows for twenty people, but I've 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.120 also done live TV, so that was helpful, but I was, um, 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.120 Karen would say to me, you do not like after 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.440 a couple of shows, she was like, you don't know 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.360 how lucky you are, and this is what you're starting with. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:28.240 You know, you didn't have to be broken. I know that, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.720 And I'm like the gratitude. I wake up every day 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.760 and I'm like, Okay, this is my life and I'm 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.720 so grateful. It's very, very cool. And also it's just 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.400 so much more fun. I suffered when I did stand 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:47.080 up comedy. I hated back in the d I hated 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.600 it personally. I was not a fan of it at all. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.880 But it's also it's just a very it is incredibly difficult, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.840 and so then I almost felt like we have to 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.800 do this, Like I just got into my head that 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.240 it was we had to do a whole different thing. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.920 And I finally realized it was one of those Portlands 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.439 shows there was nuts and we were Even though it 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.840 was nuts, there are people. I think they sold really 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.960 big cans of beer, so everyone got a little trashier 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.440 than they probably even thought they would. Yeah, but it 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.160 ended up it was that thing where I went it 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.079 was like Steve Martin at the end of Parenthood, where 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.120 I went like, oh, this is good, this is like, 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.240 this is what we want to be happy when you're 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.000 having so much fun on stage that you just forget 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.599 that you're in front of It's not because they're not strangers, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.160 are like your friends. They know you for sure, you know, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.520 and that's it's sort of similar. That's why identify. It's 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.959 like it feels like a big family. And the thing 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.080 that we always get that I know that y'all get, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.040 is we feel like we know you. We feel like 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.000 we're friends. And I always say, you know, we kind 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.920 of feel the same way because it's totally it's reciprocal 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:52.199 and we're all, uh, we're all in the same head frame. Yeah, totally. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.520 Every single person we've met, whether it's like in the 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.160 Meat and Great after or five shows or in on 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.520 the street, a person, it's like, oh, I would be 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.079 friends with the person. It's never anyone weird. It's always 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:07.240 just like good people. Not yet. No, No, what's weird 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.720 is so it's like a familiar person. So it's either 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.680 somebody it's like, oh, this is my sister or this 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.200 is the girl I always roommates. Within college, it's always 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:21.480 like of the you know types that the life casting types. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.880 It's like the same four or five different types and 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.240 even dudes to which is like, you know, they don't 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.760 give them a credit on the show, but like me, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.240 they're like, oh, you're my friend's big brother. I totally 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.280 know who you are. Yeah, yeah, so you have a 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.720 I mean, I know you. Crime in general has a 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.080 larger female audience, but like, I'm a huge fan and 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.720 I know there's a lot of guys out there. How 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.440 does it break down for the shows? Just is it 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.320 really there? There's times at the those meet and greats, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.480 which a very small amount of the people that are there. 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.040 But when like guys come around the corner will be 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.600 like boys because it just doesn't happen that often, or 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.959 it'll be someone with their boyfriend and then we'll go, um, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.080 we try to get it out of them immediately. Were 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.560 you dragged here or did you you already converted before 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.439 you came, because that's the most fascinating person to meet. Yeah, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.400 and it's also fun when, um, sometimes we'll get like 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.120 I've never heard of you guys, and I just came 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.200 with my friend and like I can't wait to download 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.120 this and listen. Even if it's ten people in a theater, 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.000 you think, all right, well we've converted ten more. I 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.400 mean that's the ultimate victory, right, It's like someone who's like, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.600 I didn't even know what podcasts are. And then at 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.200 the end, my thing is I always tell this to 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.920 Georgia if I can see security guards in the room, 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:39.120 like there's because it's such a tenuous like true crime comedy, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.560 you can tell there's people who are like what is 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.440 this and I don't like this immediately, And there was 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.480 I think that was a Texas show, yeah, where there 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.480 there was a guy standing right in the front of 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.720 the stage and I just I felt like everything I 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.440 was doing was like this is foreign about either and 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.120 he was cracking up the end. On our side, it 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.360 was awesome, But I mean it's you understand that that's 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.880 almost part of the job, is like you have to 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:09.040 convince people that you aren't that you um for our things, 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.360 specifically that people go like this is an appropriate or 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:13.960 you shouldn't be doing this or that, and it's like, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.960 no, no no, no, trust us that we're actually gonna do 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.040 it right and we're not assholes and we're not we 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.240 don't think people be murdered as funny and there's a 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.680 complexity to it that we actually can handle if you 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.080 would just give us the benefit of the doubt, and 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.040 that's a really thrilling, thring thing to actually be able 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.480 to prove you know, that's great and want a cool 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.200 thing for you, Like you've had a long career where 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.960 I feel like you've always been working in some way 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.000 or another, and then like at this stage to hit 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:46.160 this like point, it's like, great, it's pretty magical. It 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.440 is not anything I thought was gonna happen. I was like, 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.640 maybe I'll just get a one level better staff writing 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.280 job and then then I'll be happy. But like this 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.320 thing came in out of left field, and it's like, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.520 all right, I don't trust it. I almost don't like it. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.320 It's so awesome and perfect. I wonder it's just going 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.880 to go away right to Lially. I was just taring 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.280 my therapist about that two hours ago. It's hard to 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.960 trust because it's big, and that makes you appreciate it 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.760 more and like try harder, and I think you just 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.960 have to stay grounded in that gratitude. Yeah, because I 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.000 would be doing this anyway if like I would be 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.920 doing this with you guys just down the street with 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.000 no microphone. So the idea that this is somehow bread 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.960 and butter, we would still be recording the podcast if 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.320 it wasn't, Like if it was you know, had way 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.840 smaller listeners and wasn't wasn't our career. Now we should 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.560 be doing it. It's fun and we love it. Like 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.520 I had a podcast for like four years that got 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.680 this you know, not a lot of downloads, but it's fun. Yeah, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:52.040 it's cool medium and now well now it makes funny. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.280 I never made money on it until Yeah, that's the 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.680 new part podcasting is that it's actually becoming a true 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.160 business people in a career, and it's it's that even 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.720 gets a little scary for me though, because I'm head 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.119 of content development at our network now, so I'm in 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.000 a lot of the meetings about the industry and it's 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.360 changing fucking hourly, it seems like, and like I don't 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:15.760 even know what it's gonna look like in a couple 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.399 of years. So I'm still a little bit like should 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.199 I trust this protective of the like of the podcasting 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.160 a little bit where yeah, I don't want to let 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.119 all these outsiders who were never interested in it before 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.120 into it, oh um, a little bit. But I try 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.280 to like not be that way because I have like 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.040 comedian friends who I know, look at me like selling 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.359 out of seat theater and they're like fuck that, and 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:51.000 like friends of mine, no trust me, And I know 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.800 I have plenty of friends in the industry like that 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.639 that think like I didn't earn this at all, But like, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.400 what are you gonna do? People listen consume me? Yeah, exactly. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.080 That's the beautiful part is it's like the people voted nobody, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.360 nobody is related to anybody. It's not any of that 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.960 kind of usual ship. It's just like it's not our 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.400 fault for this is the thing people like, So yeah, 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.359 any kind of any of that. I always have that 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.439 fraud issue and that kind of like um guilt or something, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.440 and that's my I don't know. As I move into 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:28.000 my middle age, I'm just like, who gives the fun? 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.359 You have to? It just ruins the fun if you 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.399 don't become a big asshole and think like I fucking 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:42.200 deserve this, right, No one deserves it? Yeah, totally. Yeah. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:49.320 Maybe Malala George, I'm old disappointed you're not drinking? Can 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:55.680 Rose do we have any She's like you do. My 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.720 our babysitter, my wife and his babysitter was telling a 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.119 story the other day about being like super drunk, and 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.800 she was like, I was drinking was this can rose? 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.480 And I just head that episode where you were getting 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:12.040 like a little thick tongued. Those things are super loaded 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.119 up with it's something like really high. And she was like, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:17.639 I looked at the can and I was like, well, 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.840 I'm gonna Georgia this like it wasn't just you, It's 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.480 happening all over Ye. That's why this last episode that 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.840 came out today you can hear. I didn't open my 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.880 can of sparkling wine until after my story was done, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.520 because I was like, now I'm getta sit. Yeah, you 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:40.320 did it drink Now that's great. Uh so, well, I 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.960 know where you grew up. But for the benefit of listeners, 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.639 uh to movie crush, where did you both grow up? 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.360 I'm from northern California. I grew up in a town 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:54.119 called Pataluma, grist Wrestling Capital World and it used to 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.720 be the but the Egg Capital. But I think we 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.320 got we got knocked out, but they still have the 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.320 Butter and Eggs Day parade every year. Very egg based 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:11.840 um society. It's California. Yeah, I was born in l 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.000 A and then I grew up in Sucking Orange County. 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.960 I thought I was, but I've been here since for 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.520 twenty years back in l A R. Yeah, how did 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:25.360 movies figure into your respective lives growing up raised on them? Yeah, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:30.240 we had in Plama. There's a um A theater downtown 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.840 that was like kind of one of those old They 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.080 played Rocky Horror every Friday night for for the longest 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.600 and the longest running UM showing of that, and it 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.399 was a really cool theater that they every day they 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.520 had a double feature that kind of went together, and 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.800 so it was always like they would always be like 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:55.600 eating Raoul and you know whatever, fast times of Richmont High, 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.920 but like they would kind of um, they cultivated it 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.520 a lot. So that's the movie where I saw Fame 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.960 for the first time, and the like title word came 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:10.640 on the screen, intensely packed out house starts. Everybody started screaming, 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.000 and then all these joints started get lit up and 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.639 I was like, oh, this is like, this is what 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.879 adults do. I was probably twelve years old the same same. 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:21.680 It was just like and that's what they did, that's 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:26.080 basically what they didn't. Yeah, I mean I think those 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.600 types of like, um, those types of kind of art, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.920 the art or movies. Yeah, yeah, so it was a 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.480 big deal. It was a very big deal to me. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.800 But my dad used to make us bring a popcorn 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.720 from home. We did a little bit mom famously, like 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.800