Speaker 1: What's up everyone.
Speaker 2: I'm Tory Deal and I'm a Nissa Ferrara and this
Speaker 2: is MTV's official Challenge podcast. All I have to say
Speaker 2: is Bubblehead Bob's Ladnisa Girl.
Speaker 3: It just brings back memoize.
Speaker 1: Dude, I saw that flashback of you.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that that ours were bigger one
Speaker 2: and they just turned Theirs were more like stationary. Ours
Speaker 2: were like turning in circles, and it was terrifying. And
Speaker 2: we had to run up this whole hill first and
Speaker 2: I'm like Trail and Rachel trying to keep up with her,
Speaker 2: and it was just the altitude in New Zealand with
Speaker 2: something else like tough.
Speaker 3: Everybody had a cough after.
Speaker 1: It looked really really tough.
Speaker 4: And I think that, like obviously we see the progression
Speaker 4: of s teams go the later teams do better when
Speaker 4: you originally did it, Like did you feel like you
Speaker 4: had a similar strategy to the winning team that went,
Speaker 4: which was the Orange team, or so what happened when you.
Speaker 3: We were all individual repairs.
Speaker 2: So I was with MJ for for everything that I did,
Speaker 2: But so you were going down in any which way.
Speaker 2: I mean, guys were careening over girl like it was crazy.
Speaker 2: And then we had to solve a puzzle but we
Speaker 2: were really dizzy, so we had to solve this puzzle
Speaker 2: after and I was about like two seconds. I mean
Speaker 2: I lost by like a few seconds. But it was
Speaker 2: not fun.
Speaker 4: So watching it back, did it like when you when
Speaker 4: you saw each team go, did you decide or would
Speaker 4: you were you able to figure out like who you
Speaker 4: thought was going to do well?
Speaker 2: Or what I mean, isn't it? Isn't it always the
Speaker 2: first team as the guinea pig, and then you you
Speaker 2: would get better if you kind of take a little
Speaker 2: I mean, going last would probably be awesome because you
Speaker 2: can take a little bits from each one.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't have done the full stop. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also wouldn't have flailed my arms like a baby
Speaker 2: like Brad did. So I think less is more and
Speaker 2: being concise and direct and having like we're going to
Speaker 2: do exactly this when we go in and adjust if
Speaker 2: need be, and then get get it. Just get a
Speaker 2: fucking bag, you know, so go slower shore. But the
Speaker 2: full Stop lost them on time, you know, still timed event.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really interesting to watch and I think
Speaker 4: that it was also really hilarious because I dude, the
Speaker 4: brad stuff, I cried.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see.
Speaker 5: What's he doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like and then Keifla broke one,
Speaker 2: like he's like, I'm so strong, and then broke one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just juice every just just colored water everywhere. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just one of those silly ones we used
Speaker 2: to like divide the challenges up from like endurance, strength
Speaker 2: and then humility the ones that just made you look
Speaker 2: like an idiot, and that's the one that's the silly one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they got the silly one out.
Speaker 3: I got to give it.
Speaker 4: Up for like cars team's strategy, even though they didn't
Speaker 4: go fast enough, it seemed like a really good strategy
Speaker 4: to let the person who was in the first sled
Speaker 4: go all the way to the last one so that
Speaker 4: they weren't wasting any time. But it just took them
Speaker 4: too long. I feel like if they would have executed
Speaker 4: it a little bit better, it could have been a really.
Speaker 3: Great strike executed it executed.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry say I love it and I was looking
Speaker 2: at my egg that you got me, so yes, I
Speaker 2: totally agree. I think the full stop was just if
Speaker 2: it was just a slow down they probably would have won.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that you know, the Orange team
Speaker 4: obviously they won and they crushed it.
Speaker 3: Cam Derek killed it.
Speaker 1: Team Derek killed it absolutely.
Speaker 4: Like I think that they had a really great chance
Speaker 4: of winning once we saw them in action, and then
Speaker 4: it just obviously with the beginning with Brad like it
Speaker 4: just set them up for failure.
Speaker 1: But that really put Leroy in this tough spot because.
Speaker 4: They're coming off of the week where they just put
Speaker 4: Car into elimination and now they're just praying she doesn't
Speaker 4: get power. And then of course Leroy and Brannon are
Speaker 4: on the same team. Now they're in the losing group,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of setting up for this you know,
Speaker 4: shit show, shit show.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I just noticed that these teams aren't I mean, it's
Speaker 2: like four boys lost, like four guys, and then the
Speaker 2: team that was two girls and three guys. Like it's
Speaker 2: just it's just interesting to show that, like, no matter
Speaker 2: the dynamic and even if you had more people or
Speaker 2: less people like it, just it's interesting how that worked out.
Speaker 2: I didn't even notice that, like how the teams were
Speaker 2: picked or anything like that. But yes, we have Brandon
Speaker 2: and Leroy going up and it's sad because you know,
Speaker 2: you hate to see two friends go at it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think that Car really wants that revenge.
Speaker 4: I mean it makes for it makes for a good plot,
Speaker 4: like it makes for good TV.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's.
Speaker 1: It's definitely interesting, you know. I think that every.
Speaker 4: Week we've been able to see a bounce back of
Speaker 4: some sort of somebody getting you know, obviously Avery the
Speaker 4: first week she gets hurt, her star stolen, and then
Speaker 4: you know, we see that with Tina and her, and
Speaker 4: then we got to see Kara or Cam and Ayana
Speaker 4: with this back and forth, and now we're getting to
Speaker 4: see it with Kara, Cam and Leroy, and now Brandon's.
Speaker 1: Involved because of the Car things.
Speaker 4: So there's so much back and forth happening that it
Speaker 4: is very satisfying to watch from a viewer perspective. But
Speaker 4: like I'm sure, being in it, it just felt so
Speaker 4: because you just never know who's going to be on
Speaker 4: top what week. The teams are just shuffling so much,
Speaker 4: you never know who's going to be in power, and
Speaker 4: that middle group really has all the control I know,
Speaker 4: And obviously this week's elimination was another crab shoot. Like
Speaker 4: I've done a similar elimination to that.
Speaker 3: It's funny. You've done a lot of crab shoot.
Speaker 1: What is it a crap shoot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like you're shooting crap, shooting craps like
Speaker 2: the game like the.
Speaker 1: Not a crab shoot?
Speaker 2: Oh, what would be a crab shoot where crabs go
Speaker 2: out of a shoot like shoots and ladders?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you might be too young for that game.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not too young for that game. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a shoot like I love you so much, it's a
Speaker 1: crab shoot. Okay, Well, let's just keep it moving.
Speaker 2: I just want to also need to put out a
Speaker 2: book called Tory saying so much more if I just
Speaker 2: gave you a brilliant idea, so like, I'm getting twenty percent.
Speaker 3: Of that book.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have Nelson Thomas co author it.
Speaker 1: Him and I would crush it together.
Speaker 3: Perfect.
Speaker 1: It would be perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So they're playing Mission Improbable, which doesn't give you a
Speaker 2: lot of hope.
Speaker 3: Does it. No?
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't to be suspended like a puppet with
Speaker 2: a Petri dish like from science class like that you
Speaker 2: would collect stuff like specimens in and then make five
Speaker 2: balls go in to holes.
Speaker 3: Nice. It just didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have been great at
Speaker 2: that one. How do you think you would have fared?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: You know, Devin and I had done something similar on
Speaker 4: Rider Dies in the first you weren't there.
Speaker 1: I got to watch it back, yeah, and so that
Speaker 1: was cool.
Speaker 4: And I just really enjoy how the Challenge gods take
Speaker 4: tiny little games that you used to play in line
Speaker 4: when you're waiting for your seat to get called at
Speaker 4: a restaurant, like you know those little Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like how they take those.
Speaker 2: Games and that's just sketch like something stio and they
Speaker 2: blow them up.
Speaker 1: And I love that because you get to like be
Speaker 1: inside the game. So it is. It was really cool
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 4: But obviously it was nice to see Leroy win. We
Speaker 4: have been following his story season. We had him on
Speaker 4: the podcast already, and like you can't you just have
Speaker 4: to root for Leroy because he just is such a
Speaker 4: compelling person and then also you just want him to
Speaker 4: get a win, so right, But it was.
Speaker 2: Nice to see Brandon kind of hold his hold his
Speaker 2: like kind of kill it on coming into this knowing
Speaker 2: that like he has gone home very early in a
Speaker 2: lot of them, and he's in great shape.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad he got the.
Speaker 2: Chance to to compete and compete well and we get
Speaker 2: to talk to him later today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so tour.
Speaker 2: Before we get to the interview, I need to know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: who's your all star of the episode?
Speaker 4: Okay, this is okay, obviously the obvious all start Leroy, Right, I.
Speaker 3: Have a different one, but go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4: But then I want to give my I want to
Speaker 4: give a tiny little baby star as like an appreciation
Speaker 4: star to Adam for the sweetness of his response to
Speaker 4: when Leroy took his star. He's like, it's fine, man,
Speaker 4: I'll just come back for it later, Like right now,
Speaker 4: he gets all the cuteness points in the world, like
Speaker 4: Adam is where I was like, I was gonna take
Speaker 4: it anyway, but.
Speaker 1: Adam is like so so sweet. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: my big star to Lee.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm gonna give a tiny little baby star to
Speaker 4: Adam because he's just the cutest little sugar plump fairy
Speaker 4: pop pie.
Speaker 2: What about you, Anissa, I gotta listen, Derek Chavez shout
Speaker 2: out to you. That's the funniest person when I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've ever met him, but he is. He
Speaker 2: has a shining star in his own right, and I
Speaker 2: think we are just seeing the beginning of him.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: But I love that he had a moment and he
Speaker 2: was the MVP and he was recognized. So I always
Speaker 2: love that my star goes to you. I'm sure everybody
Speaker 2: watching is gonna give you the star too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and do you think that we should just agree
Speaker 4: on our no star and say, on the count of three,
Speaker 4: let's see if we get the same one?
Speaker 6: Wait?
Speaker 4: Wait, okay, right, oh, I got it, Okay, ready, one, two, three?
Speaker 3: Bread. I forgot he was here. I thought he was
Speaker 3: still mashing bags.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to give it to Brad.
Speaker 4: Listen, Brad, Oh, Brad, sweetie of a person, sweetie.
Speaker 2: Of it's between Brad and Tony, you know, for the
Speaker 2: missing stars of the season. We could do that later,
Speaker 2: we'll recap the whole season and see if we can
Speaker 2: just have like a missing star and someone who's out
Speaker 2: of sight, you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, like we could. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: It'll be a crabshoot, but it'll be fun to figure out.
Speaker 3: All right, let us go and interview Brandon Nelson.
Speaker 4: All right, guys, we have to take a quick break,
Speaker 4: but we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, we are back with another interview from
Speaker 2: a wonderful TV personality on this season of All Stars.
Speaker 2: For you haven't seen him in a minute, neither have I.
Speaker 3: His original show.
Speaker 2: Was Friend Too, he was on Fresh Meet Too, Cutthroat
Speaker 2: Rivals Battle, the season's Free Agents, and now we get
Speaker 2: to see him back on our screens. Please welcome the
Speaker 2: one and only Brandon Nelson. I will say you have gotten.
Speaker 3: Better with age.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: And you came in with a couple muscles this season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, divorce will do that to you.
Speaker 3: Oh do you think we need to get divorce toy?
Speaker 1: I think I need a divorce now that I know that.
Speaker 2: That's now that I've seen your shoulders and your byes,
Speaker 2: I might have to get married and then divorce before
Speaker 2: my next show.
Speaker 4: Dude, Well, it's been incredible to see you this season.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we're going to get into the entire episode,
Speaker 4: but let's just like go back to the very beginning. Like,
Speaker 4: you haven't been on this show in so long. I
Speaker 4: think Free Agents was your last eleven years, so like
Speaker 4: so long ago. So what was it like, coming back in,
Speaker 4: did you feel like you knew anybody? Did you know
Speaker 4: anybody that was going to be there? Were you excited
Speaker 4: to see anybody? What were the initial thoughts?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know what happened, and you know
Speaker 5: when people start getting the call, and then you get
Speaker 5: a call, you'll get a text and you're like are
Speaker 5: you going did anybody contact you?
Speaker 6: And all the good stuff.
Speaker 5: And actually I was an alternate for All Stars two,
Speaker 5: and so when that started rolling, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: maybe I'm still on the radar, you know, maybe I
Speaker 5: have a chance.
Speaker 6: And I didn't get picked up for it.
Speaker 5: And then I didn't even get a call for All
Speaker 5: Stars three, so I'm like, okay, well let me go
Speaker 5: get a real job again. Because I hadn't done anything
Speaker 5: since Free Agents, so I wasn't expecting anything.
Speaker 6: And then I get.
Speaker 5: The call for All Stars four and I was an
Speaker 5: alternate for that as well, but I was like, nah,
Speaker 5: this one, They're not going to do that twice to me.
Speaker 6: They're gonna pick me up.
Speaker 5: So I ended up getting picked up a week before
Speaker 5: we left, and they were like you're on the main cast.
Speaker 5: But in that big gap, I was just I was
Speaker 5: in Vegas, trying to figure things out, and you know,
Speaker 5: two kids later and an attempted marriage, you know, it
Speaker 5: just wasn't meant to be. I don't want to speak
Speaker 5: negatively of that situation because I wouldn't have gotten into
Speaker 5: it if I didn't think it was gonna work.
Speaker 6: It just wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 5: But no, then you hit reset after that, because you know,
Speaker 5: you know, me and Nissa, like, if I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: something that big, I only want to do it once.
Speaker 6: And then when you know, when that didn't work, it
Speaker 6: was like, oh no, we're back out in these streets.
Speaker 3: Not you back out in the street, not like that.
Speaker 6: Now I was in the casinos where I was.
Speaker 3: At, Well that's bad too, so and that's why.
Speaker 6: I ended up leaving.
Speaker 5: I ended up I already made the plan to move
Speaker 5: back to Arkansas anyway, because Vegas this was a bad
Speaker 5: place for me to be, especially going through that, and
Speaker 5: you know, I wanted to be around for the kids,
Speaker 5: so I already had that plan. And then I got
Speaker 5: picked up for All Stars four, which was just a blessing,
Speaker 5: like it really got me up off the couch. I
Speaker 5: was doing absolutely nothing, like I'd go to work come
Speaker 5: back and sit on the couch, and it just wasn't
Speaker 5: that's not me.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: It took the spark out of me, and luckily All
Speaker 5: Stars four put the spark back in me. It was
Speaker 5: it was really it came at the right time, man,
Speaker 5: Like you don't even know. I hit some some lows,
Speaker 5: but it came at the right time.
Speaker 3: Well, we are definitely happy to hear that.
Speaker 2: So when you got the call, you're packing up, you
Speaker 2: go to the airport.
Speaker 3: Who were you most excited to see?
Speaker 6: Oh? Of course my boy Leroy. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: in Vegas we actually lived together. We were roommates.
Speaker 2: Forgot about that, Yeah, yeah, close, wow, Yeah.
Speaker 6: We would be out all the time. Man, that was
Speaker 6: my dude for real.
Speaker 5: And so I was excited to see him and get
Speaker 5: to actually compete with him again, because I know the
Speaker 5: last time I think his first season was Rivals and
Speaker 5: that was the only time I think we were ever
Speaker 5: on a show together. And so being able to get
Speaker 5: back with him and then you know, I see Jay.
Speaker 6: We hadn't seen him forever.
Speaker 5: We never did a show together, but we did spring
Speaker 5: Break together, and that's a whole nother time.
Speaker 1: We don't want to get a big.
Speaker 3: Spring breaking for a couple spring breaks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a different podcast.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So it was really good to see him.
Speaker 5: And then there was some people that I didn't know,
Speaker 5: you know, had never met Avery before.
Speaker 6: Who else did Tina?
Speaker 5: Good, God, Tina, she's the lot, man, Like I knew
Speaker 5: her from seeing her on TV, but it's a whole
Speaker 5: different monster in person.
Speaker 6: Man, it just does not stop. Like I just I can't,
Speaker 6: I can't.
Speaker 5: But you know, meeting some of the new folks and
Speaker 5: then seeing some of the old folks was super.
Speaker 1: Cool, totally.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, you mentioned you had like
Speaker 4: these previous relationships going in.
Speaker 1: You knew some people, especially Leroy.
Speaker 4: We got to really get in the scoop when we
Speaker 4: saw your relationship with Carr this season this best friendship
Speaker 4: because you know, I mean, I mean we've seen it
Speaker 4: go up and down. We've seen her interviews where she
Speaker 4: talks very clearly about like, you know, she would never
Speaker 4: thrown you in. We see her get really upset and
Speaker 4: cry over the fact that you you know, last episode
Speaker 4: threw her into an elimination and voted it that way.
Speaker 4: And then this episode, I mean even last week you
Speaker 4: were like, you know, we haven't spoken eight years, and
Speaker 4: so there was that conversation between you, So I really
Speaker 4: love to get into that, like what was it like?
Speaker 4: Just walk us through the reasoning of like why you
Speaker 4: decided to throw carr in and then how it transpired
Speaker 4: into what it did.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, this is the backstory on me and
Speaker 5: car and I love her to death. We just squatched start,
Speaker 5: you know, our little thing or whatever, and she actually
Speaker 5: called me a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6: But you know, we did first meet two together.
Speaker 5: It was our first first time being on TV and
Speaker 5: we were together and she ended up getting eliminated like
Speaker 5: the first episode, but we still kept in touch outside
Speaker 5: of the show. And then the second season when we
Speaker 5: did Cutthroat, she was like the first person I see
Speaker 5: in the airport and then you know she just runs
Speaker 5: and jumps on me and like that's my girl. So
Speaker 5: then moving forward after Free Agents, it was just went.
Speaker 5: It was radio silence. You know, I wasn't on the show,
Speaker 5: so I was like, Okay, if I'm not on the show,
Speaker 5: you can't holler at me. And then that gap, a
Speaker 5: lot happened. You know, I had two kids, a failed marriage,
Speaker 5: and my dad died and you know Luckily I was there.
Speaker 5: I was there with him when he did. But I
Speaker 5: would never advise anybody to sign up for that, like
Speaker 5: just to see somebody die, especially like the most important
Speaker 5: person in your life.
Speaker 6: Like I'm like, yeah, but I was. I was glad
Speaker 6: to be there, but at the same time, it's it's
Speaker 6: tough still.
Speaker 5: And then even on top of that, I got two
Speaker 5: major car accidents and almost died in both of those,
Speaker 5: and it's just like the entitlement is what I felt
Speaker 5: this season when I voted her in and she was like,
Speaker 5: but I had your back, You're my boy, And it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: you don't even know what I've been through the past
Speaker 5: eight nine years, because you know, she's not one of
Speaker 5: those that just sit on the phone with you for
Speaker 5: an hour.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, you.
Speaker 5: Know a text or you know what's up or it's
Speaker 5: something you know what I mean. So there are times
Speaker 5: that I reached out to her and I didn't get
Speaker 5: a response, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So that's why, Yeah, that's why I.
Speaker 5: Was like, all right, cool, I know, but I see
Speaker 5: you living your life online, but you can't hoigh at
Speaker 5: your boy. It wasn't personal for me voting her in
Speaker 5: this on this season.
Speaker 6: But you know, ultimately her and Rachel, with the two
Speaker 6: strongest players in the house, got her girl.
Speaker 5: So when I had the opportunity to put them in,
Speaker 5: I was going to put them in because on all
Speaker 5: the other challenges that I've done, the.
Speaker 6: Big dogs always control the vote.
Speaker 5: You know, you got your bananas, and you got your cts,
Speaker 5: and you got the they control the house from the beginning. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: put this, Put the rookies in, put the weak people in.
Speaker 5: You got to earn your stripes. I get tired of
Speaker 5: hearing it bull and then the people would go along
Speaker 5: with it, and then they end up getting you know,
Speaker 5: sucker punched in their mouth halfway through. But it's like,
Speaker 5: as soon I told myself, if I ever get back
Speaker 5: on the show, I'm going for the head every fucking time.
Speaker 5: It wasn't personal just because I'm not Finna be trying
Speaker 5: to compete with her in the final.
Speaker 1: So do you think like and I think that's so fair.
Speaker 4: Do you think that because the format of this show
Speaker 4: was one single individual winner, it really helped to dictate
Speaker 4: that response or do you feel like if there was
Speaker 4: a female and male winner that maybe it would have
Speaker 4: been a little different.
Speaker 1: Was it just because there was direct competition between you
Speaker 1: and Kara?
Speaker 5: The main deciding factor in that is because there was
Speaker 5: one winner, like if it was a female winner and
Speaker 5: a guy winner over there were teams or it would
Speaker 5: have changed my vote because I know I would have
Speaker 5: lasted longer if I don't vote in a stronger player
Speaker 5: and my friend at that point, but right, you know,
Speaker 5: and I knew she was gonna come for me at
Speaker 5: some point. I just didn't know it was going to
Speaker 5: be the next fucking challenge. But I should have gone
Speaker 5: and talked to car because after I knew she was
Speaker 5: going to vote me and Leroy, and I should have
Speaker 5: gone to her and been like, look, I know you're
Speaker 5: going to vote me in give me brand because Brad
Speaker 5: fucked me over on Cutthroat and I know I could
Speaker 5: have beat him. And that's if we'd had that same elimination,
Speaker 5: I would have beat him because he's just he's just
Speaker 5: too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you could see that when he was
Speaker 4: going for his bags. I mean like it was just
Speaker 4: absolutely insanity.
Speaker 1: I mean it was comical. Yeah, yeah, insane. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I think you know, you never know when Kara is
Speaker 1: going to come around.
Speaker 3: To kind of bite you in the ass.
Speaker 4: And obviously this was just a very quick turnaround for
Speaker 4: you because then nominations happened, and Carr is obviously all
Speaker 4: on board with putting you up against Leroy, and you
Speaker 4: guys obviously have a very close relationship. You guys were roommates.
Speaker 4: What was it like to see her put those names
Speaker 4: on the board.
Speaker 5: I mean, we had already prepared ourselves for it. Anyway,
Speaker 5: Like as soon as we were leaving that challenge, it
Speaker 5: was like, all right, you know we're going in, right,
Speaker 5: so you know those not even like there were like
Speaker 5: some people were saying, go talk to her, go see
Speaker 5: if you know I'm not doing that.
Speaker 6: I mean I've been in enough eliminations. I'm not scared
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 5: And then I don't want to be seen as like
Speaker 5: some coward, you know, you know, on my knees begging,
Speaker 5: you know, don't put me in, because I literally just
Speaker 5: put her in on the previous one. So you know,
Speaker 5: you can send it back to me. I'll take it
Speaker 5: and hopefully I'll get back in the house.
Speaker 6: But but yeah, I mean we knew we were going
Speaker 6: in and that was it.
Speaker 5: No shout out to Jado because he said he would
Speaker 5: never say my name, and he didn't even though everybody
Speaker 5: else did, so he held on to his so shout
Speaker 5: out to him.
Speaker 3: It's Tori.
Speaker 2: Do you see how interesting it is to hear people
Speaker 2: from like the og time like talk about shit, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not begging for shit, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this type of pride that comes with.
Speaker 2: Like, I guess, being an older player and like being
Speaker 2: in a different place where you're like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: begging you to not say my name. But I also
Speaker 2: don't know if this is necessarily karma. I mean, Brad
Speaker 2: just took into those bats. It was just like he
Speaker 2: was bowling.
Speaker 6: Man had Brad.
Speaker 2: That wasn't Brad. That wasn't the thing for the thing.
Speaker 2: It was like, I'm gonna get all of them.
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, he took too much pre work out
Speaker 6: that day. I think, man, like you can get all
Speaker 6: amph Brad workout.
Speaker 3: That's just him.
Speaker 2: That might have just been the first breath of air
Speaker 2: he took that morning. He breathed deep and then he
Speaker 2: went for it. But he's passionate, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh and actually I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 5: they showed it like on a previous episode or not,
Speaker 5: maybe an earlier one. But me and Brad had a
Speaker 5: little sit down because this is my first time seeing
Speaker 5: him since Cutthroat and I was on the Red Team
Speaker 5: with Cutthroat, and they kept throwing me into elimination because
Speaker 5: it was my second, my second challenge and I'm still
Speaker 5: considered a rookie in their eyes. And plus he was
Speaker 5: still with Tori, so they had like their old their
Speaker 5: whole thing with people that they.
Speaker 6: Knew on the Red Team.
Speaker 5: The Red Team ends up winning the whole thing because
Speaker 5: you know, I say, it's on my back. They still
Speaker 5: owe me some money off of that, but they rode
Speaker 5: me for like more than half the season and then
Speaker 5: I ended up getting beat by Derrick K. But but yeah,
Speaker 5: he said, I forget what he said. I remember what
Speaker 5: he said because I'm holding on to grudges.
Speaker 6: This is like twenty ten and I still remember it.
Speaker 5: He said, He's like, you know, he said it behind
Speaker 5: my back. I saw it on the final edit. But
Speaker 5: he was like, I don't know what Brandon thinks. This
Speaker 5: is if we lose, He's going in every time. I'm
Speaker 5: here to win some money. This ain't no rental friend.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, rental friend. Okay, my god, rental
Speaker 5: friend cool. So I never let that go. So then
Speaker 5: when we got into the house in South Africa, he
Speaker 5: pulled me to the satellite man. Look, I was getting
Speaker 5: pulled in fifteen different ways. You know, Toy was telling
Speaker 5: me to make these moves. I was like, oh, Toy
Speaker 5: was telling you. Okay, but he kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: half assed apologized, and I was like, it's not the
Speaker 5: big of a deal. At the end of the day,
Speaker 5: It's a big game that we get paid to play.
Speaker 5: So I'm just happy. I'm happy and blessed to even
Speaker 5: be a.
Speaker 3: Part of it totally.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think it's fair to have these moments.
Speaker 4: I know people always saying, oh, it happened last season
Speaker 4: or happened seasons ago, how could you still hold on
Speaker 4: to that.
Speaker 1: As a challenger.
Speaker 4: We all have these moments with people that you forget
Speaker 4: about them, and then when you see these people again,
Speaker 4: you can't unsee that moment until it's squashed. So I
Speaker 4: think it's fair that you could still have that living
Speaker 4: within the back of your mind somewhere.
Speaker 1: Likely if it hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we have to take a quick break,
Speaker 2: but we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about your your Challenge family in this
Speaker 4: particular episode, your Dark Blue team working with Ryan, Flora, Avery,
Speaker 4: and Laurel.
Speaker 1: How was that for you?
Speaker 5: I thought I thought we had a pretty strong team.
Speaker 5: And you know, God bless Mama Flora. I love her
Speaker 5: to death. This was my first time meeting her too.
Speaker 5: I love her to death. She had a little a
Speaker 5: little tough time getting up that hill to get to
Speaker 5: the little carts or whatever, but she made it. And
Speaker 5: but the thing that pissed me off, I don't like to,
Speaker 5: you know, if somebody's trying, I'm not gonna, you know,
Speaker 5: lay into him. But Ryan still had a whole bag
Speaker 5: of water in his damn jersey after we already you know,
Speaker 5: we got done with it, and yeah, that could have
Speaker 5: that could have gua.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tori, we just watched it.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but but I think I missed it.
Speaker 3: And he was like, I thought it was my foopa.
Speaker 3: I'm like Ryan, you're.
Speaker 6: Thin, yeah, but whatever, but no, that's the homie though.
Speaker 5: I like Ryan too, man, but yeah, but no, I
Speaker 5: was pissed man because I'm like, damn, we did all
Speaker 5: that because I got like half the bags myself and
Speaker 5: he had a whole nother bag after we already cut
Speaker 5: to cut the water off so we couldn't add it.
Speaker 6: And I think that might have been like.
Speaker 5: The difference between us being second, because I know we
Speaker 5: weren't dead last, so if it came in second, we
Speaker 5: would have had the boat. But you know, it is
Speaker 5: what it is. It wasn't in the it wasn't in
Speaker 5: the stars. So uh but yeah, Ryan was cool. Laurel,
Speaker 5: you know, she always wants to take over. But Laurel
Speaker 5: was so distracted this season anyway. She was all worried
Speaker 5: about Nicole, which was so fucking annoying.
Speaker 2: But it's a shame because I think Laurel is an
Speaker 2: amazing player and looking at social media now, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any repairing that but relationship. But
Speaker 2: she's a great She's really good at these challenges and
Speaker 2: we've seen it. I mean free Agent, she was just
Speaker 2: playing with shit, throwing it around like she had done
Speaker 2: this in her backyard for years.
Speaker 3: So kind of done.
Speaker 2: I mean, probably lucky for the other girls that you
Speaker 2: may and you know, people that she might have to
Speaker 2: go against but for head not to be in the game, but.
Speaker 3: She manages to really like flip shit on.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I definitely think she's somebody to look
Speaker 2: out for, regardless if she's distracted or not.
Speaker 3: Laurel's got something else, you know she.
Speaker 2: I think we all have that ability, for the most part,
Speaker 2: to kind of like push our some of us have
Speaker 2: the ability to push our relationships to the side and.
Speaker 3: Really like or use it as fuel.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how all
Speaker 2: of that plays out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I never I met well, I've never understood,
Speaker 5: like I mean, I get it.
Speaker 6: If there's you know, communication.
Speaker 5: And feelings outside of the show, I mean, that's a
Speaker 5: whole different ball game. But when people just it's always
Speaker 5: like the I call it a show man's because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: you can flirt and have your cuddle in and you
Speaker 5: can you know, Pollo dick and do whatever you want.
Speaker 6: While you're on the show.
Speaker 5: But when it bleeds out into the real world, Okay,
Speaker 5: now it's a real relationship, I get that. But when
Speaker 5: it's just stealing at lovey dovey stuff that's on camp, remember,
Speaker 5: and how serious somebody can take it after knowing somebody
Speaker 5: for a week. I'm not talking about Laurel and the
Speaker 5: cacause I know that ship goes way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: But uh but like some of these other people, because
Speaker 5: you know, I've been doing my homework looking at some
Speaker 5: previous seasons and whatnot.
Speaker 6: I saw your ass tory and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, don't point to me doing doing I'm an angel.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, because it's been bouncing around, like
Speaker 5: I've been bouncing around, like older seasons and whatnot.
Speaker 6: You and who Jordan and uh, yeah, there's somebody else,
Speaker 6: I believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a season.
Speaker 6: There's a who's that black dude? I forget his name, Derek.
Speaker 4: Listen, guys, we're not here to run down my list
Speaker 4: of relationships.
Speaker 2: She's a lover. She's a lover and she can't help that.
Speaker 2: She's fine and people are attracted to her.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It's okay, Butterfly, I love you. But listen.
Speaker 4: I know it's entertaining to talk about that because it
Speaker 4: is psychotic. But what's more entertaining is your experience on
Speaker 4: this show.
Speaker 6: So let's take transition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I want to talk about one of
Speaker 4: the most incredible things you've provided to the show thus far,
Speaker 4: aside from your incredible competition, which is the beautiful face
Speaker 4: of your daughter.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so cute.
Speaker 1: How gorgeous she is, Like my mouth.
Speaker 3: I the Wakanda.
Speaker 1: That was cute.
Speaker 2: I couldn't That was the sweetest moment. So you really
Speaker 2: told her I'm going to Wakanda to fight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said I have to go to work, I
Speaker 5: have to do some stuff.
Speaker 6: And she was like, where are you going?
Speaker 5: I'm going to Wakanda And she was like okay, you know,
Speaker 5: and she's she's so smart, Like when I do call
Speaker 5: it because you know, she's still in Vegas with her mom.
Speaker 6: So it's really it's been really tough, man, because you go.
Speaker 5: From having her every day and she's like, you know,
Speaker 5: a little mini you, and then now you know, it's
Speaker 5: you know, video calls and I get out there as
Speaker 5: much as I can, and you know, it's tough because
Speaker 5: we still haven't figured out the whole She's five.
Speaker 3: Do you have two daughters?
Speaker 5: I have a daughter and the son he's six.
Speaker 3: All so cute?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did it did it make you want to fight more?
Speaker 2: Did you get like super emotionally after those calls? Because
Speaker 2: I know, it's different when you call home to friends
Speaker 2: and fans. It's different when you I feel like when
Speaker 2: they're your babies.
Speaker 6: I'll get that definitely.
Speaker 5: Man, Like I'm glad they didn't show my my ugly
Speaker 5: face because I figure off the phone whatever.
Speaker 6: I was like.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, man, because yeah, because that's my little homie.
Speaker 5: Because like anytime I call her, before we get off
Speaker 5: the phone, she'll look because we have our song. So
Speaker 5: because I'm a huge DMX fan, so when I be
Speaker 5: in the shower, I usually rough rude as anthem. That's
Speaker 5: like the first song. Then I'll go into something else.
Speaker 5: So before we get off the phone. In when I'll
Speaker 5: call her, she'll.
Speaker 6: Go daddy, I'm like what, She'll just go stop and
Speaker 6: I'll go trup and shut him down, up shout.
Speaker 3: So we'll do that.
Speaker 6: That's our little thing or whatever.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, that's she's she's too smart for her
Speaker 5: own good. Like you can have a real conversation with her.
Speaker 5: You don't have to have baby talk with her. You
Speaker 5: can just she just I don't know what. She probably
Speaker 5: gets it from me because I never baby did the
Speaker 5: baby talk with her, Like she just talked to you
Speaker 5: like a normal person.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's my little nugget.
Speaker 4: Is it different to play with kids this time around?
Speaker 4: And like, did you feel yourself bonding more with other people.
Speaker 3: Who had kids?
Speaker 6: Hell? No, no, because you know, shout out to my
Speaker 6: son too.
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, because my daughter got some
Speaker 5: screen time or whatever, but you know, they just didn't
Speaker 5: edit my son into but he's super smart as well.
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I mean because different parenting styles. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of the new parents, you know, they're really
Speaker 5: they do that soft parenting and that just nah, I'm
Speaker 5: not you know, let them figure it out and yeah
Speaker 5: blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: Maybe they're no.
Speaker 5: If we're doing this, I mean, I'll give you some rope,
Speaker 5: but once it gets to a point, it's like, okay,
Speaker 5: we need to get this done and then we'll let
Speaker 5: you go explore follow on your face and you'll figure
Speaker 5: it out and you'll know not to do that again.
Speaker 6: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 5: But with the whole you know, well, he doesn't like
Speaker 5: green foods, so we're gonna give him no, you finna
Speaker 5: eat this, and you're gonna start so you know, just
Speaker 5: I feel.
Speaker 2: Like that's like old school though, because I feel like
Speaker 2: our parents were like that, like, well, I mean I
Speaker 2: walked myself to the bus stop, you know, like it
Speaker 2: was just a different time.
Speaker 3: I got grounded. Yeah, for like a month at a time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Well I mean but you I'm sure.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you were a very interesting kid to raise.
Speaker 6: Kid.
Speaker 3: I will leave that there.
Speaker 2: I made on roll, I got bullied a lot, and
Speaker 2: I played an instrument and I was the designated driver
Speaker 2: all throughout high school.
Speaker 3: And said you're amazing. Thanks. I don't want to let
Speaker 3: you know I was a good kid.
Speaker 2: I did get an in school suspension and maybe some detentions,
Speaker 2: but that's nothing.
Speaker 6: You're right, You're right. I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 3: No, you don't know my life, Brandon.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's it's still weighs heavily knowing that you
Speaker 4: know you're competing and you have a kid at home,
Speaker 4: and I know Leroy had that exact same situation on
Speaker 4: his mind, also knowing that Cam.
Speaker 1: Is there with him, which is difficul because two.
Speaker 4: Parents are now working on the challenge and trying to
Speaker 4: win this money. So when you find out that it's
Speaker 4: you against Leroy, both of you have a lot to
Speaker 4: fight for and you're going into this elimination. What was
Speaker 4: your initial strategy when you saw what the game was
Speaker 4: and how did you think.
Speaker 1: You were going to play.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty good with puzzles. I like to use my
Speaker 5: brain every now and then. I mean, my first inclination
Speaker 5: is just to run through stuff.
Speaker 6: But since it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't that that type of time, I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 5: let me just slow. My biggest thing was just to
Speaker 5: go slow, and because that thing weighed about forty or
Speaker 5: fifty pounds and it was weighing on you, but like
Speaker 5: if you did too much to the right and to
Speaker 5: the left, it was just a ball was just fly.
Speaker 5: So I just my biggest thing was just to slow
Speaker 5: down because I saw what he was doing at first.
Speaker 5: He was just all over the place, and I was like,
Speaker 5: if I just slow down and get to where I
Speaker 5: need to go, oh beat him. I was gassing out.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie like I was. My upper body
Speaker 5: was gone, and I was getting close and then he
Speaker 5: just kind of like flipped the balls up and they
Speaker 5: all went to the middle. Like it was crazy. Like
Speaker 5: I even Tej was like, what the hell was that?
Speaker 5: And like three of us balls like this damn near
Speaker 5: just landed right in the spots when he flipped them
Speaker 5: all up, and the other two already in the middle,
Speaker 5: and he just shimmied on and it was done before
Speaker 5: I could even get two balls in. But it was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: he yeah, he apparently he was just supposed to win
Speaker 5: that night.
Speaker 6: So but it was all good. That's my boy, So
Speaker 6: it wasn't It was a bittersweet.
Speaker 3: If you could go back and.
Speaker 2: Go against anyone else, is there somebody you would have
Speaker 2: preferred to go against in that specific elimination.
Speaker 5: I was taking bread all day long because because he's
Speaker 5: like a bull in the china shop man.
Speaker 1: The battle of the Beard's baby, battling.
Speaker 3: A lot of beard. He could have used the beard
Speaker 3: to put the balls in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know right, he does have a mind of
Speaker 5: his own, Like I kind of wonder about the upkeep
Speaker 5: of that thing, because we would eat like this. He'd
Speaker 5: be walking around with ship all in it and nobody'd
Speaker 5: say anything.
Speaker 2: He just has it's a very long one. I told
Speaker 2: him he should cut it. It's such a cute little face.
Speaker 2: Just cut it a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I'm probably would have gone with Brad
Speaker 5: because one I think I could have beaten him because
Speaker 5: he doesn't as you saw in the challenge, like he's
Speaker 5: just knocking all the water bags like left and right.
Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't really have a strategy when it
Speaker 5: comes to things that he needs to kind of know finess.
Speaker 5: And then on top of that, it would have been
Speaker 5: great to beat him because you know what he did
Speaker 5: to me on Cutthroat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hold grudges, I get it, I saw get it.
Speaker 4: I think was your strategy because I've done a very
Speaker 4: similar elimination to this, except I wasn't holding onto the puzzle.
Speaker 3: I was standing on top of a surfboard. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So was your strategy to get all of the
Speaker 4: balls into the center or was it to work on
Speaker 4: one ball at a time? And do you think that
Speaker 4: Leroy had any strategy at all? Like, just talk us
Speaker 4: through the minutia of the strategy a little.
Speaker 5: Bit like word choice okay, okay, humorading.
Speaker 3: I read one book word.
Speaker 5: But no, my strategy So like when you get through
Speaker 5: the because Amazed is mainly on the outside, so when
Speaker 5: you there's like one part, I got all the balls
Speaker 5: lined up because it's like an exit, so I would
Speaker 5: just try to get one out and then I've used
Speaker 5: the maze itself to hold the other balls next to
Speaker 5: the inside of that maze, and once I get one,
Speaker 5: I just try to go around like clockwise.
Speaker 6: And just you know, try to get them in it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, my strategy was just like I said, just
Speaker 5: finesse it and just be slow and methodical with it.
Speaker 5: And once I found a little nook right there to
Speaker 5: hold them, and then you know, it's like you at
Speaker 5: the club. One end, Okay, you're good and check you
Speaker 5: ID other can come in too, So that's nice.
Speaker 1: You're playing bouncer and that's really cool. A cute little
Speaker 1: a cute little puzzle club.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I was sore for like a week after that,
Speaker 6: Like it was.
Speaker 2: You're never suspended in a workout like that with your
Speaker 2: legs and your arms trying to finagle a puzzle like
Speaker 2: you're not.
Speaker 6: And they had a sting so tight and those damn harness.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what people were like, you're not training. I'm like,
Speaker 2: for for puzzling like that?
Speaker 1: What was I supposed to do?
Speaker 3: More core, more armuzzle, aerial puzzling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real puzzling.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get to the gym now for that?
Speaker 4: Were you so obviously you were harnessed in up top
Speaker 4: and then were you harnessed into the bottom of the puzzle,
Speaker 4: Like were they connected to you or were you using
Speaker 4: your body weight to hold it up?
Speaker 1: So pull on it?
Speaker 5: So we were like so like midway through our legs,
Speaker 5: right around our knees. We had cables going from there
Speaker 5: down to the puzzle, and we were holding up with
Speaker 5: our arms at the top part of the of the puzzle.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't connected. So at any point in time
Speaker 1: you could have dropped.
Speaker 6: We could have dropped it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was waiting for that to happen. Brandon were like,
Speaker 2: my arm's shurt, but I'm gonna keep going. I'm like,
Speaker 2: if you drop this damn puzzle.
Speaker 1: If no one ever told you, Brandon, you make a
Speaker 1: lovely chandelier.
Speaker 3: Wow you and Leroy.
Speaker 1: You really what what fixtures?
Speaker 4: You looked out there and uh, you guys get you know,
Speaker 4: you really get put on a great show. It was
Speaker 4: really interesting to watch. It was neck and neck. It
Speaker 4: was you know, bittersweet because we love Leroy. It was
Speaker 4: awesome to see him win, and then it was also
Speaker 4: just devastating to see you go home like you've already
Speaker 4: had such an awesome season even though you haven't been there.
Speaker 3: I mean, it started out super hot. I'm so proud
Speaker 3: of you. Forgot that.
Speaker 5: I was like, away, okay, yeah, man, I was feeling good.
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, this is gonna be
Speaker 5: the one and then fucking car Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I mean watching it back, were you shocked that
Speaker 2: she wanted you to win?
Speaker 3: I mean it is an afterthought.
Speaker 6: But.
Speaker 5: No, not really, because I don't know if they showed
Speaker 5: it like on the previous episode. I thought they were
Speaker 5: going to show it on this one. But we talked.
Speaker 5: We talked for a while in the backyard, and I
Speaker 5: was like, you know, kind of broke it down to
Speaker 5: her as far as in a while I was feeling
Speaker 5: a way that I was feeling a better in our situation.
Speaker 5: I was like, but you know, I'm not asking you
Speaker 5: to call me every day or even every week, you know,
Speaker 5: or even every month. And so we just sit on
Speaker 5: the phone and you know, chat like little girls or whatever.
Speaker 5: It's no no offense, but it's not like, yeah, not.
Speaker 3: Chat like girls.
Speaker 2: Don't get me started on this doubly female podcast girls.
Speaker 5: But I explained to you know where it's coming from,
Speaker 5: and she explained to me, you know where she was
Speaker 5: coming from, you know, as far as like how she
Speaker 5: is and all that good stuff. But I was like, man,
Speaker 5: we have a good friendship. You know, I'm not going
Speaker 5: to lose it over a game. I was like, there's
Speaker 5: just some things that we need to tweak. And of course,
Speaker 5: you know, with everything that I went through, I kind
Speaker 5: of I was a little bit more reserved as well,
Speaker 5: because I'm not going to go out there and you know,
Speaker 5: post things about you know, my accident or my my
Speaker 5: failed marriage or my dad dying and like, you know,
Speaker 5: because to me it comes off as you know, I'm
Speaker 5: attention seeking. And plus it's just that's that's in house business.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: I don't need all the extra stuff while I'm going
Speaker 5: through my stuff.
Speaker 6: So, uh, you know, I get it.
Speaker 5: I reverted and became a hermit myself, so I get
Speaker 5: where she's coming from.
Speaker 6: At the same time, you know, when.
Speaker 5: We're playing a game, Uh, what if it got down
Speaker 5: to the point where we're right before a final and
Speaker 5: I'm the only person that she can vote for, or
Speaker 5: if she doesn't vote for me, she can't go to
Speaker 5: the final or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, you can make those decisions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm fine with it at any point in
Speaker 5: the game. But I'm saying, like, you know, she was
Speaker 5: a big dog in the game and she actually had
Speaker 5: to go, So it wasn't personal the reason I made
Speaker 5: my decision.
Speaker 6: I let him know that as well.
Speaker 5: But in the meantime, I was like, if we're going
Speaker 5: to have a relationship, you know, we got to work
Speaker 5: on that.
Speaker 6: Outside of the show, I was like, I'm moving forward.
Speaker 6: You know, I got you.
Speaker 5: You know, I see how much it affected you. I said,
Speaker 5: I didn't. I said, I thought you was just crying,
Speaker 5: you know, because you didn't want to get voted in.
Speaker 5: But it was more because it came from me. So yeah,
Speaker 5: so that the quality of our the value that she
Speaker 5: put on me kind of you know, opened my eyes
Speaker 5: as to how she views me and how she feels
Speaker 5: about me.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we got to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 4: It's nice to know and to have those moments of clarity.
Speaker 4: It also was a reminder for me that I need
Speaker 4: to catch up with some of my old friends because uh,
Speaker 4: not trying to let months or years go by and
Speaker 4: face the same situation you guys face.
Speaker 1: So it was interesting.
Speaker 2: Not not every toy calling everyone today, calling everyone in
Speaker 2: how is how are you?
Speaker 3: Just wanted to check up see how you were doing.
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm calling outside people. I'm not calling.
Speaker 6: You want to be my alliance?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You want to be you want to be my life alliance?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can get some calls. Calls go out.
Speaker 5: I'll get a call from somebody I hadn't done a
Speaker 5: show with in a decade.
Speaker 6: Hey, just checking up on you. I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 6: got a call.
Speaker 3: You made some calls too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you better know it. Oh oh, oh oh.
Speaker 2: When I was on my way inside the gym, and
Speaker 2: he goes, oh, I guess that's a yes. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing the fucking show. He was like, just
Speaker 2: because I pulled up to the gym, that's just for life.
Speaker 2: I got to keep forty two looking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a child, and you do well, Brandon.
Speaker 4: Now that you're gone and it's an unfortunate situation, who
Speaker 4: are you rooting for that's still left in the game.
Speaker 6: Of course I'm rooting for my boy Lee Roy.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's my dog, so of course I want
Speaker 5: him uh to get one, especially it's going to be
Speaker 5: a solo one. But I mean, at the same time,
Speaker 5: if he wins, Cam wins too, but uh so him
Speaker 5: and then you know, surprisingly enough Jay, I mean, that's
Speaker 5: the homie too. And plus you know, Jay's been through
Speaker 5: a lot that he didn't really talk about, you know,
Speaker 5: especially with him being a firefighter. He's seen some stuff
Speaker 5: because we were talking and he was telling me about
Speaker 5: his experiences man, and you know, he's a that dude,
Speaker 5: was a little superhero man like he's he's that dude.
Speaker 6: He's done some.
Speaker 5: Things that I couldn't imagine, and he's seen some things
Speaker 5: that I couldn't imagine. So you know, he's probably as
Speaker 5: far as people being in shape in the house, between
Speaker 5: him and car it's probably a toss up because you know,
Speaker 5: he has to stay in shape to be a firefighter anyway,
Speaker 5: him and Nicole. But we got Jay Leroy. That's really
Speaker 5: about it. And it'd be great for Jasmine to at
Speaker 5: least get far because she always second guesses herself. She
Speaker 5: never thinks she's good enough, So I think it'd be
Speaker 5: cool for her to, uh, you know, at least get
Speaker 5: to a.
Speaker 4: Final Jasmone has been giving us a great show this season,
Speaker 4: as she always does.
Speaker 3: Is actually the bit like you're on it for the spice.
Speaker 1: Dude, because there's never she never does. She just always provides.
Speaker 3: But that's every single show she does. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: She is never a different person. You always get Jasmine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like actually so sweet.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just if you get on the wrong
Speaker 4: side that she gives you the rest.
Speaker 3: Yea, I don't know what that's like on the right side,
Speaker 3: the right.
Speaker 4: Side of her, like, but no, she is I feel
Speaker 4: you on, I feel you on, you know, rooting for her.
Speaker 4: And obviously she's in a good position right now because
Speaker 4: she still has a star and I think that, like,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of beautiful game to be played still,
Speaker 4: And I'm just curious, like, knowing that you were playing
Speaker 4: it with Cam and Leroy watching it back now and
Speaker 4: seeing how.
Speaker 1: They maneuver, do you like the style of game that
Speaker 1: they're playing.
Speaker 4: Do you think that it's something that if you were
Speaker 4: to stay in the house after this, you would have
Speaker 4: still continued to play with Cam.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's my first time dealing with her
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 5: But you know, with Lee comes Cam, and but she knows,
Speaker 5: you know, with me as well. She can't really do
Speaker 5: much you know, to go against me because of Lee.
Speaker 5: So you know, if I were still there, i'd have,
Speaker 5: you know, a pretty strong couple that you know can
Speaker 5: go far, and they probably take me with him. But
Speaker 5: as far as Cam herself, like I said, I've been
Speaker 5: looking at some older.
Speaker 6: Seasons and whatnot.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't know that she, you know, was
Speaker 5: rocking like that, like just on her own, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I was like, okay, okay, So but
Speaker 5: as far as her gameplay in this on this season,
Speaker 5: I mean her and Lee are basically the same person,
Speaker 5: you know, getting one with the other. So I mean
Speaker 5: it's not anything that you know that I agree with
Speaker 5: or don't agree with. It just is what it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, their presence alone is going to have people,
Speaker 5: you know, either gun and form or try to work
Speaker 5: with them.
Speaker 2: So I would want to know, after doing All Stars
Speaker 2: for would you do another season of the Challenge?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? It.
Speaker 5: Like I said, my light was damn near extinguished before
Speaker 5: I got All Stars four, And you know, it's just
Speaker 5: the show. It's just you know, some a bunch of
Speaker 5: old people doing silly kid stuff. But for for what
Speaker 5: I was going through, it really really helped me out
Speaker 5: and got me out of a very dark space. And
Speaker 5: you know, I feel like I'm not at one hundred percent,
Speaker 5: but I feel like I'm re energizzed and it's something
Speaker 5: to look forward to that I can like really pour
Speaker 5: something into and yeah, I'm back. I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 5: back getting charged up. So and it was so much fun.
Speaker 5: Like even watching it now, I'm like, ah, I should
Speaker 5: have done this, I should have done that. And I'm
Speaker 5: like ready to, you know, go run a mile, which
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do right now.
Speaker 6: What I am?
Speaker 5: I am, I'm excited, man. So yeah, if they give
Speaker 5: me the call, I'm on the first plane.
Speaker 4: So and I think, you know what, like you said,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just a show, but also it brought you,
Speaker 4: it brought you your life back.
Speaker 1: Like that's why it's it's just a relative way to
Speaker 1: look at it.
Speaker 4: The show is more than a show until it becomes
Speaker 4: too overwhelming that you're like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 4: believe that happened to me.
Speaker 1: And then you get to put it in that it's
Speaker 1: just a show category.
Speaker 4: But when it provides so much life for you and
Speaker 4: brings you back, it really is this fulfilling and beautiful experience.
Speaker 4: I think that's why all of us keep coming back
Speaker 4: after years like fresh meat too, that was what the
Speaker 4: nineteenth season, Like that was seasons ago. We're about to
Speaker 4: hit up potentially, not me studying, were.
Speaker 2: Not you watching every single season and knowing when it
Speaker 2: actually happened, toy.
Speaker 4: No, But I'm just I'm just saying, like, it's just
Speaker 4: it's that's why the family, the Challenge family, is so
Speaker 4: powerful and beautiful because it transformed all of our lives
Speaker 4: in so many beautiful ways. And it's just awesome to
Speaker 4: see you back. So I really hope you get to
Speaker 4: see you in the future. And I love that you
Speaker 4: have this sense of power and energy coming into whatever
Speaker 4: is coming up next. And yeah, we're rooting for you.
Speaker 4: It's been awesome to have you on the show, and
Speaker 4: thank you for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate what you having me. Man.
Speaker 5: Like, It's funny that when I got the email, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I'm finally getting to because I'm never
Speaker 5: I did one after show, but I've never.
Speaker 6: Outside of that.
Speaker 5: I haven't done anything outside of the actual season, so
Speaker 5: I've never done a reunion. I'm like, everybody gives me go,
Speaker 5: do these after shows, they're gonna go do this other stuff.
Speaker 6: They get to do the fun stuff outside of the show.
Speaker 6: And then I got the email.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, I can do it, Bike, I'm on
Speaker 5: the radar still, I'm doing a podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm happy that that made you feel that way.
Speaker 3: I was happy to see you.
Speaker 4: It's been too long, yeah, yeah, and said you better
Speaker 4: give him a call if it's been too long.
Speaker 2: Well, he gave me the call first, I don't know
Speaker 2: whenever before all starts.
Speaker 1: So okay, good, well, you guys better saying touch eight
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 3: He didn't stay in touch after that. He was just like,
Speaker 3: you're going and he says, this is Brandon. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've heard you remember me, but.
Speaker 6: I remember you.
Speaker 1: I remember about her.
Speaker 5: I remember that she was a very Actually, what I
Speaker 5: remember about her is that after I did my first season,
Speaker 5: she reached out to me. I think it was like
Speaker 5: on Twitter and you were like, you know, good job
Speaker 5: or something like that. She was like one of the
Speaker 5: first ones to like bring me in and I was.
Speaker 6: Like, oh, yeah, she was very. She brought me with
Speaker 6: open arms, so yeah, she was super cool. So yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Very I don't know what makes me giggle.
Speaker 2: Every word you say that, I'm like shit, Well, Brandon,
Speaker 2: we are bringing you in with open arms on this
Speaker 2: podcast and it's been such a pleasure to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Where can people follow you on social media? On Twitter,
Speaker 4: if you still have one or any projects that you
Speaker 4: want us to support or you want to talk about,
Speaker 4: please feel free to take the stage and talk about it.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: On Instagram, you can follow me at Brandon D. Nelson Facebook,
Speaker 5: which I rarely check. It's Brandon Drake Nelson. Yes, my
Speaker 5: middle name is Drake. I'm not I'm not trying to
Speaker 5: stalk Cam or be like him. Actually I'm older than him,
Speaker 5: so if anything, he's trying to be like me.
Speaker 3: The rumor going around for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what it is. TikTok. I don't even know
Speaker 6: what my TikTok name is.
Speaker 5: No, it's it's Brandon Drake Nelson as well, and then
Speaker 5: Twitter also known as X is Brandon D.
Speaker 6: Nelson.
Speaker 1: Brandon, thank you for coming on seriously, Yes.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Thank you ladies.
Speaker 1: Look forward to potentially see you.
Speaker 6: In the future, hopefully soon. I've been later.
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean like we got to give it up
Speaker 1: for Brandon.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been on the show in so long, and
Speaker 4: he gave us a great season and that was such
Speaker 4: an amazing interview.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish he was on the show a
Speaker 1: little bit longer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, Me too. But I don't think it
Speaker 2: is the last time we'll see him. I'm sure if
Speaker 2: there are more shows, they might call out to the
Speaker 2: to the I can't. It's gonna say something extremely silly
Speaker 2: and ridiculous and it wasn't gonna make sense. So yes,
Speaker 2: hopefully we see Brandon on our screens again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 4: And I hope we see you and our screens again too,
Speaker 4: an Lisa, And if we don't, where can we find
Speaker 4: you on social media? To make sure that we see
Speaker 4: you on our phone screens?
Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram where I play the
Speaker 2: most Anissa, MTV that's a N E E s A MTV?
Speaker 2: And Tory, where can they find you? Show you love
Speaker 2: and show you how to say most sayings the right way?
Speaker 3: You guys can find me at Tori Underscore Deal.
Speaker 1: Please be nice to me.
Speaker 4: I'm doing my best, guys, and thanks for joining us
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