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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. I'm one of your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Becca Kufran, and I'm Michelle Young, and we are so

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Speaker 1: pumped to be back this week to not only get

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Speaker 1: into another episode of the Bad Shark, but more importantly,

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Speaker 1: we have a guest that we've been asking for for

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Speaker 1: weeks and I cannot wait to have her on because

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Speaker 1: today we get to finally speak with Charity. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: have been dying to get her on the podcast since

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Speaker 1: night one. She is such a huge, huge favorite of

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Speaker 1: Becca and Eyes or me and Mecca's and we want

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Speaker 1: to talk to her about her connection with Zach. We

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Speaker 1: want to get to know her a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: before we bring her on, Becca, you have somehow very

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Speaker 1: very very very exciting news and like an announcement that's

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Speaker 1: coming because Bachelor Live is back. It is back, and

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Speaker 1: I can finally share details. I know, I kind of please.

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Speaker 1: I know it kind of hinted last week a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but we officially announced it this past week when we

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Speaker 1: were all in Arizona. Yeah, it's coming back. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: look a little bit different this year, so instead of

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Speaker 1: like doing a cross country tour, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a residency in Arizona at the Talking Stick Resort in Scottsdale,

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Speaker 1: And I actually got a lot of questions on DMS

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Speaker 1: and in my comments about this, people are like why

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Speaker 1: are you just being like why are you just in

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Speaker 1: one area? But like what I try to tell people

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Speaker 1: is like, think about this when you go to Vegas

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Speaker 1: for a long weekend with your girls or your guy.

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Speaker 1: Like you. For the most part, I think most people

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Speaker 1: want to see a show, right, like whether that's a singer,

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Speaker 1: whether that's a search show, a magician, whatever, So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of that same thing. So we landed on Scottsdale

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Speaker 1: because it is the number two batchelort destination in the country,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of people flock there fourth these batchelor

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Speaker 1: at parties, and we figured like that would be one

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Speaker 1: of the perfect spots to do this, Like girls or

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Speaker 1: guys can come watch the show. Like I said, it's

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Speaker 1: it's also next to a pool, you have cabanas, It's

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Speaker 1: going to be like a little bit more sexy. So

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Speaker 1: it's more of like a big interactive show slash party

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Speaker 1: I've actually I've done a lot of planning of bachelorettes

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Speaker 1: what a nice little changeup that would be to be

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Speaker 1: able to, like, I don't know, like you can you

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Speaker 1: even if you're not planning a bachelorette but like being

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Speaker 1: able to be in Scottsdale, being able to do this

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Speaker 1: little fun activity that would be awesome. How are who

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Speaker 1: are you hosting with? Because I know that this is

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Speaker 1: this is not the same as Bachelor Live on stage, correct, right, yep,

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be different hosting. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: will be It's kind of a weird schedule this year

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Speaker 1: because I actually have to travel to one of our

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Speaker 1: dear friends in Italy getting married in the middle of it.

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Speaker 1: So I will be hosting the first weekend and the

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Speaker 1: last weekend in April, and then my bachelor when I'm

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Speaker 1: hosting will be Andrew. So he'll be like the fun

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Speaker 1: So he will be my bachelor for the couple weekends

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Speaker 1: and then the middle weekend when I'm actually gone, this

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Speaker 1: So it'll be those two guys for that middle weekend.

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Speaker 1: They play off each other so nicely. They always they do.

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Speaker 1: They really compliment each other. Well. They are super live, energetic,

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Speaker 1: a good couple. Well Thomas though, Well, Thomas and the

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Speaker 1: You know, Thomas I think will be there for one

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Speaker 1: She stole the show. She like the crowd loved her.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Is it going to be the same,

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Speaker 1: come on stage? How is that gonna work? Yep? Yep.

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Speaker 1: So just like last time, we actually pulled out every show,

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Speaker 1: we pulled ten to twelve contestants up on stage directly

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Speaker 1: you have like different fun group dates, like different fun dancing,

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor, it's way less pressure. You actually just win

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Speaker 1: like a big gift package full of like my wine

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Speaker 1: what I love is like because if you're there with

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Speaker 1: I would say, than like the Bachelor mansion. Oh this night,

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Speaker 1: what you said, April, what am I doing in April?

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Speaker 1: You're coming? I'm coming with light in so that I

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Speaker 1: after people hear about this, they're gonna want to know

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Speaker 1: M yeah, so right now you can get tickets. So

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Speaker 1: the resort that will be out is called Talking Sick Resort.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, it's in Scott's Dale. You really can't

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Speaker 1: to scott Still, it's right there on the road. So

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Speaker 1: Talking Sick Resort dot Com. We'll have all of the dates,

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Speaker 1: all of the info and tickets. So bring yourself, bring

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Speaker 1: your girls, bring your mom. If you have a boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: bring him. We've had some couples in the audience and

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Speaker 1: a blast. So everyone get your ticket set Talking Stick

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Speaker 1: Resort dot Com. Oh, Becca, we're so proud of you

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Speaker 1: over here at a happy Bachelor happy hour with everything

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Speaker 1: you're doing. We're so sad for you. Can't wait for

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Speaker 1: a Bachelor Live to start and for you too, like

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Speaker 1: you said, it best do the damn thing. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how it turns out that

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Speaker 1: to buy something that was fun, someone love to see you. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: enough about me. You have been traveling like crazy. You

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Speaker 1: this this, uh, this makes it for it. She's with

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Speaker 1: you in spirit, well maybe old man. Okay, that you

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Speaker 1: already met her. Oh yeah, you went to that her event.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Okay, So Michelle, you just briefly mentioned

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Speaker 1: a little launch, which of course I have to ask

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Speaker 1: nonprofit by building wellness packages for underprivileged women. And so

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Speaker 1: This girl's gonna go far. I love hey also to

428
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: be here. You look stunning like first and foremost, Like

429
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you're everyone that comes on the show is stunning, right,

430
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but you just you are beautiful.

431
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: We're so so so happy to have you on. Um,

432
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: I want to just ask, like before we get into everything,

433
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: is this your first podcast? This is like I don't

434
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't do podcast, but this is like the first one.

435
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: So I'm like so honored that is with you all

436
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: because I mean I'm fangirling a little bit, but like, honestly,

437
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. Oh my gosh, well

438
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: it has been a long time coming since night one. Um,

439
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: how did you get cast on the show? Like? Were

440
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: you a fan of it before? M Okay, so funny enough, Um,

441
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: I my best friend from high school. Um, she actually

442
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: nominated me. And the thing is with her, she is

443
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: not like a Bachelor like fan by any means. Like

444
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: I watched it like and I've watched several seasons, like

445
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: y'all seasons Peter Hannah Brown's. I've seen so many, but

446
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: I never at one point decided like, Okay, I'm gonna

447
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: nominate myself for this. So she actually kind of brought

448
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: up the idea and she was like, I'm going to

449
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: nominate you. I had gotten recently got out of a

450
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: relationship like two years ago, and so I think her,

451
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: along with like a lot of other people in my life,

452
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: were like really happy that I was no longer in

453
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: this relationship, so they took advantage of that moment. And

454
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm going to nominate you. I think

455
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: you'd be perfect for it. You have like a great personality.

456
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: And I did not take her serious because eighty percent

457
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 1: of our relationship is just us always like goof and all.

458
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, whatever you're gonna you're gonna

459
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: nominate me. And so I remember like it was right

460
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: after I had finished my master's degree, so I had

461
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: just like graduated, like a week after. I had gotten

462
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: the call and it was from one of the casting

463
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: producers and I was like, okay, like there's only one

464
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: person that mentioned this to me. So I remember texting

465
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: her ride away and I was like, did you nominate me?

466
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: And then she goes Yeah, why whatn't I? I was

467
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: for real and I was like, okay, great, so here

468
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: we are. And so that's kind of was the process

469
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: of how I ended up here. Wow, that's crazy. Okay,

470
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: I just peeped out though. You said that you had

471
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: just finished your master's degree. Yeah, was that just everything

472
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: that you're doing now with I know that you mentioned

473
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: that you were a that you were a child like

474
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: and family therapist. Yeah. Yeah. So I did both of

475
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: my undergraduate and my master's degree at Auburn. So I

476
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: went to Auburn and so once I finished, I got

477
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: my master's in mental health counseling. And my internship was

478
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: actually within like trauma, and so I worked at a CIAC,

479
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: which is a child advocacy center, and so we kind

480
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: of see the worst of the worst cases, which is

481
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: like really like hard. But I was so incredibly passionate

482
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: about that work, so I kind of just decided to

483
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: stay in that line of practice. And so you kind

484
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: of mentioned or you can hear me mention it a

485
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: little bit on the the show with Zach talking about that.

486
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: But I still work with kids and then kind of

487
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: getting that family aspect too, So it's really more trauma Ficus,

488
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: but really do have a heart for that and incredibly

489
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: rewarding work. That's so wonderful, and I feel like, yeah,

490
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: you probably do such difficult work. You probably see so

491
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: many terrible things in your line of work. So just

492
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: thank you for being there for those kids. Yeah, I

493
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you this, and I was thinking about

494
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: this like once we knew that we were going to

495
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: have you one so taking it back, and I don't

496
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: remember what week it was, but there was one group

497
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: date that you were on where oh it was it

498
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: was the group date where Tash came and crashed the

499
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: night portion and everyone, all of the women are kind

500
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: of spirally freaking out like is she gonna stay? Is

501
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: he going to keep her? And you in that moment,

502
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: and I actually said this on the podcast a couple

503
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, you were like, let's do some grounding exercise, Yes,

504
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: but just let us all calm down, yeah, which I

505
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: was thinking like, damn, I wish we would have had

506
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: somebody do that on Arcis and that could that kind

507
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: of just like kept us level even keeled. Did you

508
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: find yourself doing that a lot throughout the season when

509
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: things kind of went awry with other women? To kind

510
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: of help bring them back down and yes and to

511
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: answer that and so funny thing y'all bring that up

512
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: because I did, like kind of almost instantly kind of

513
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I might be playing the therapy cost

514
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: roll here like all season. I'm don't even check from ABC,

515
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: but like, but um, I remember just like a lot

516
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: of the girls did just kind of find like comfort

517
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: and like coming to me and talking about things, and

518
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not thinking in that moment like, oh, like

519
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: they're utilizing me because of like my profession. I also

520
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: just think like it was just like we were all

521
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: like such a close cast and it was easy to

522
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: like really talk to people. But I admire that a

523
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: lot of the girls did like try to come and

524
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: talk to me. And so throughout throughout the season, like

525
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: you'll see little snipp like peaks of me trying to

526
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: implement some like therapy tactics and like groupe chat like conversations.

527
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of bounced back and forth a

528
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: little bit. We're on the season. I was on that.

529
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: That's honestly, even just like talking to you the few

530
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: minutes that we have spoken, and for those who are

531
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: at home listen or wherever you guys are listening, she

532
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: charity is like glowing act. She's speaking about what she does.

533
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: And I absolutely love that. I love that you're so

534
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: passionate about working and just helping with helping people, helping children.

535
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: But how whether it was on the show or whether

536
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: it's now, how do you maintain that balance? How do

537
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: you maintain the balance of you you care about these

538
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: people that you work with, you care about the girls

539
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: that you're helping on the show, right, but it also

540
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: can be really heavy when you're in a line of

541
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: work with that It's it's built on passion, right yeah, yea,

542
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: how do you like maintain that balance and make sure

543
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: that you're okay? Like who's checking in on you? Whether

544
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: it was on the show, you're trying to navigate your

545
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: relationship with Zach, but also you're trying to help everybody

546
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: else think through things. And you know, at home or

547
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: when you're working, you're navigating through these really difficult stories.

548
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: And it's not like that weight or that emotion gets

549
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: taken off once you leave your office or at the

550
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: end of the day. So how do you wrap your balance?

551
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: And this is like really cliche to say, but like

552
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: self care and like I don't take it lightly at all.

553
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: It's something that's very important and not even just for me,

554
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: like anyone to practice no matter what you're doing. And

555
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: I have grown to know that, like self care is

556
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: not for me, like sometimes might just mean like Okay,

557
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be on my phone, or like it

558
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: could be like I'm gonna go extraccise where I'm gonna

559
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: go on a walk and I'm gonna do this, Like

560
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: there's so many things that are incorporated within like self care,

561
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: and so that's just strongly something that I lean into.

562
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: Whether that's like journaling. I remember on the show, like

563
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: I journal every single day. I'm a spiritual person, so

564
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: like I was doing like divations like things like that

565
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: to just kind of help me keep my mind at

566
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: bay with things. But then also they're just like connecting

567
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: with other girls too, Like I knew like I was

568
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: close with a lot of the girls, like almost every

569
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: single one on this season, and so just finding those

570
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: people that I knew I could have like maybe more

571
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: like deeper conversations with m that was like really important

572
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: for me. So it I mean it could be anything,

573
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: but for me, that's just kind of just self here.

574
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: It is just what I do. And burnout in my

575
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: field is very like easy to happen, like I remember,

576
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: like and obviously I do trauma, so like it's not

577
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: like light. But like what you said you mentioned like

578
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: leaving your work at home, like I don't take anything

579
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: home with me, Like I leave it at the door,

580
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: and it's like it'll be there for me next week

581
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: or whenever I go in again. But I try to

582
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: just like what's for work is for work, and when

583
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: I get home, like that's my time. Yeah, how was it?

584
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: How was that transition then? Well, I guess maybe two

585
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: transitions you could say, leaving work and you know, and

586
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: your stability, your family, your friends, your daily life routine,

587
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: leaving all that behind, coming on the show where you're

588
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: stripped of all that normalcy you're sort of your phone,

589
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: any contact with your family, and then coming back into

590
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: the real world and I'm assuming you went back to work. Correct, Yeah, Okay,

591
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: what were those two transition processes? Like, yeah, I can

592
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: imagine it was very difficult, still adjusting, yeah, but yes,

593
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: I think the hardest part for me, like going on

594
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: this show was like being stripped away from like my

595
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: support system because that's like all part of my self

596
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: care practices. It's like, Okay, if I need to like

597
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: get on the phone with like a friend, or if

598
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: I need to go out and go to like get

599
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: drinks or dinner whatever with my family whoever that may be,

600
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Like that was not no longer there for me, so

601
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: like I kind of did struggle a little bit with that.

602
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: But adjusting back to I guess the real world after

603
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: the Batchel being in the bachelor bubble that was, I

604
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: think it was like not as hard because I was

605
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: just like so eager to get back, and I think

606
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: for me, like I just wanted to make sure, like

607
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: once I jumped back into work, that I was fully

608
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: like prepared to do that again, and so I did

609
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of with my caseload. I just tried not to

610
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: have so many like clients all at once, because before

611
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: I was seeing a lot, and then now it's like

612
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: still like minimal, just because like I am still in

613
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: like an adjustment period myself, and so I want to

614
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: make sure that whenever I am like treating or like

615
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: just sitting with a client, that I'm like at my

616
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: full capacity to be able to pour back into someone

617
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: else's life. Do you ever that's a lot too. That's

618
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: so much. And okay, so you're you're currently in Georgia

619
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, and you're born and raised. Yeah, well

620
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm not born. My dad was in the military, so

621
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: I was born in New Jersey, but I basically have

622
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: lived in Georgia, um my whole life and then went

623
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: to school in Auburn, so like lived in Alabium a

624
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: little bit. But obviously they're right next to each other.

625
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: So okay, So the accent that I hear an accent.

626
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: I say that because so you're like people, is it?

627
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: So it's from Georgia. It's everyone. Everyone says that, and

628
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't hurt and I obviously I know

629
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: I can't hear it myself, but like everyone says, you

630
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: have like this little bit of like this sudden draw

631
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, like it's a little twin. I

632
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: guess people here. Yeah, it's it's very I love it.

633
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: I really do like it as well. Is that where

634
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: do you have family that that's living there as well? Yeah?

635
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: So am I. Um, both my parents are here, they're retired,

636
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: and then I have two siblings that live here as well,

637
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: and then I have another sibling. So I have two brothers,

638
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: one sister. M sister and brother live here, and then

639
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: my brother that's close is an aged with me. He

640
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: lives in North Carolina. Okay, so he's like only the

641
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: like not too far. Yeah, would you ever? I mean,

642
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: obviously the show does some crazy things and we don't

643
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: know if you and Zac end up together or where

644
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: that leads, Like would you ever consider moving away from

645
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: your family or is like this home base like Georgia's

646
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: where you want to be? I'm like eager to like

647
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: move away, not in yeah, not in the sense that

648
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm like ready to like be away from my family,

649
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: Like I think I will always have that like component

650
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: of me, like being family oriented in that sense, but

651
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: like I am just ready to like let's start afresh,

652
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: because I mean, like I said, being in school for

653
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: so long, it was still like I was still in

654
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: close proximity with my family and like friends, So I

655
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: do have like a bit of like you know, comfortability here,

656
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: but like, in no way am I like attached to

657
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: like Georgia like I want to leave. Okay, Well, if

658
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: you ever need tour guides in either Minnesota or California

659
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: calling up, because we got to very very vastly different. Okay,

660
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I wanted to ask something more about

661
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: like projecting to the future, and I totally lost my training.

662
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, sorry, this is what I wanted

663
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: to ask back to family. All you know, we've all

664
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: done the show, and we've all it's one thing when

665
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: you're filming it, but it's another thing when it starts

666
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: to air, and it can be awkward at times, It

667
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: can be cringey at times. Have you been watching it

668
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: back with your family with your friends? What has that

669
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: been like? Because I used to watch with my family

670
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, fast forward, fast forward. I

671
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: have watched it with both like um friends and family.

672
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: I remember like the first night obviously the premiere, I

673
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: watched it with like everybody, so my like family friends

674
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: were all together and um for the most part, like

675
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: I know, like I kind of preface them, like if

676
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: I thought something was coming up, but like I don't

677
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: think I didn't anything that was like too crazy. But

678
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: I just like the sing scenes obviously, like night one,

679
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: everyone's like like okay, like come on, guy, so uncomfortable.

680
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't it so uncomfortable. It's like it's like you. Oh,

681
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: especially like dad is in the room, in the room

682
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: and my dad is like trying to just like mask

683
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: and he's like scrolling on the phone. Okay, I'm like,

684
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: oh god, it's just a different type of like there's

685
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: like vulnerability and like showcasing yourself to the world and

686
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: like being vuln in relationship and like, yeah, vulnerability, like

687
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: vulnerability with watching it back, But like that's like one

688
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: vulnerability that I'm like, I don't know if I actually

689
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I need this. I don't grow. I don't grow for

690
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: my dad seeing me make out with Michelle Ryan. I'm sure, Well,

691
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe Cherty, Um, you never know, maybe you'll

692
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: have to live with that too one day. Family watch

693
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: it back, just let me know, maybe if you need

694
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: me to fly to Georgia so that I can start

695
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: prepping your dad to see you on the screen a

696
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: little bit longer, you know, maybe trying to find your

697
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: own I'm doing this. Here's the thing though, back and

698
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: I know, Jack shit, we're just manifesting. Like I really

699
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: if you're with Zach, I really hope you're happy. But

700
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: part of me also is like I'm gonna say it.

701
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I hope you're not with Zach and

702
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: I hope your bachelor. I'm saying it right now, God,

703
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: because you want to know why we need an Oh

704
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: my gosh, we need a bachelorette like you. Just you

705
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: have it all. You're so well rounded, you're so sweet,

706
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: you're such a hard worker, you're genuine love your perspective.

707
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: Not a woman of color, like I absolutely love it.

708
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Bless our screens please, But if you are with Zach,

709
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I wish you well. Thank we friends. I'm

710
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: just I'm manifesting such a ban I would say, I

711
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't work out. We want you for better.

712
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Campaign starting it now, we're campaigning. Give us a little

713
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: bit of background, like prior to the show, had you

714
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: been in any like long term relationships, Like what was

715
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: your path like that could like get you to this

716
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: point where you're like, Okay, I do want to find

717
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: a lifelong partner. M So yeah. So kind of mentioned

718
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: it a little bit when I how I got nominated.

719
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: So the relationship that I was kind of talking about then, Um,

720
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: it was a pretty long relationship. It was like six

721
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: years on and off, so long dated like senior like

722
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: it's like high school Speeheart like literally like this is

723
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: my person. So high school Speehearts, went off to college.

724
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: We had some turmoil there like on and off, but

725
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: then kind of came back together like a little bit

726
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: right before I started grad school. But then it obviously

727
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: just like didn't work out. It was just a really

728
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: like unhealthy relationship. And I think in that moment, like

729
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I was the one that kind of had to pull

730
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: the plug on it and like decide for myself, which

731
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: was something that was really kind of hard for me

732
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: to do because I'm typically the type of person that

733
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: likes succeeded a good in everyone, and I'm like, okay,

734
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: like this person like they're capable of like changing or

735
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: like I take what they say and I mean like

736
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: they mean what they say to me. And so I

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: had to pull the plug on that. And I think

738
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: in that moment, like it was just a moment where

739
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: I had to like stand up for myself and advocate,

740
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: like what are the things that I want in a relationship,

741
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: not just like what this person needs and always like

742
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: giving into what they want. And so did a lot

743
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: of like therapy with that and just like healing and

744
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it is that I actually

745
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: did want and so kind of getting to this point,

746
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: like I dated like people after that, um, but they

747
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: were by no means like a really long relationship. It

748
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: was like a few weeks or like a month if that,

749
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: and then just kind of realized that this isn't my

750
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: person either, and so, um, I think right before this show,

751
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I just kind of had a period where I was like,

752
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to see anyone, Like I just need

753
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: to really like just strictly focus on myself. And then

754
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: this opportunity came and I was like, well, you know what,

755
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: here we are. Here's a side, right, here's a side.

756
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: Did you feel like it was like, um, an opportunity,

757
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: like a door was just opening that that that you

758
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: were supposed to take this, And did you have new

759
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: reservations when the opportunity was presented? Yeah, I think I

760
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: definitely had reservations. I think it's I mean, it's kind

761
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: of hard to say, like you go on something like

762
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: this and you're not like maybe like an unsure about

763
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: how the outcome could be or what could actually transpire.

764
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: But for me, with the timing of everything, like everything

765
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: just kind of fell into place, like just graduating and

766
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: then like getting the call and then like having all

767
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: summer of like going through the like the casting process,

768
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: and then um, I remember like right before like the

769
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: decision was made for me, like everything was just like

770
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: pointing to like the Bachelor, and I was like, I

771
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: don't know what this means, Like I don't know how

772
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: to take this, but I'm like, you know what, like

773
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: if it's for me, it's for me, and if it's not,

774
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: it's not. And like that was kind of like my

775
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: mindset going into this, like I wasn't going to force anything.

776
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: But I remember just like all right, if you know,

777
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: when something presents itself to you, it's almost like I believe,

778
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: like everything does happen for a reason, good or bad,

779
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: and so I kind of had to like put my

780
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: perspective there, and I remember just like it still didn't

781
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: hit me until, like I think getting out of the Women,

782
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: I like holding Saxon, and I was like, I don't

783
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. That's how everyone feels. Yeah, they're like, pa,

784
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure, So when did you When did you find

785
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: out that Zach was going to be the lead, And

786
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: like have you watched Gabby and Rachel's season? Did you

787
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: know a little bit about him. M yeah, So I

788
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: did watch Gabby and Rachel's season, and so I did

789
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: remember like seeing him and like he was definitely someone

790
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Like he wasn't like at the forefront,

791
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: like you know, his personality. I don't think like came

792
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: all the way through the screen. But I was like, okay,

793
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: like he seems like endearing and like really charming and

794
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: just like a good person. And so I remember watching

795
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: UM it was like the finale, after the final rose

796
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: when he was announced. I was with some friends and

797
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: we were having like a wine night, and I remember

798
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: I think, were you recorded because it was part of

799
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: the like what I submitted for my UM like promo video.

800
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: But um, I remember we were all sitting there and

801
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know who it's going to be,

802
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: but like I think it might be Zach, but like

803
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: it could be also anyone else, Like I genuinely don't know.

804
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: And I remember him like when they said it's Zac

805
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my goodness, Like I was like,

806
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got honestly like kind of felt

807
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: like multiple emotions, like it wasn't like yeah, but it

808
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: also wasn't like I hate this choice, Like no way.

809
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's see like how he like

810
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: handles himself on this stage, and like you know what

811
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: he talks about. And so I remember when he came

812
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: and sat down with Jesse and he started talking about

813
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: like his intentions, like what he was looking for, like

814
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: a person of like good character, like he is looking

815
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: for his best friend. I remember him talking about his parents'

816
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: marriage being married for like thirty something years. I was

817
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: like all those things were kind of just like in

818
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: alignment with also the things that I was looking for,

819
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: and like we had very similar like connections, like my

820
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: parents were married for forty seven years. So I was like, okay,

821
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: this is great. And I remember like him also just

822
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: being nervous, so like it all, it wasn't like he

823
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: was put together in a sense. It was like he

824
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: was apologetically himself and I love that. I was like,

825
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: he's goofy, he's a little nervous, like it's not a full,

826
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: like put together like mask. And so I think I

827
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: really resonated with him on the stage and like I

828
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: kind of had this like sense of peace. I was

829
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: like Okay, like I don't know if there will be

830
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: a connect shout when I get there, but I'm here

831
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: for it, so we'll see. I love that you went

832
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: into it with that mentality, and I think everyone can

833
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: relate to being like, yeah, I'm excited, but like, also,

834
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: who knows, this could be like a totally terrible fit

835
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: for me, And it's really not like you said, it's

836
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: not until you get their night one you actually can

837
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: see each other. You can actually talk and interact and

838
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: like see if there's a connection where that's like when

839
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: it really starts to take place. And I love that

840
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: mentality because we've had so many people like throughout all

841
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: the seasons I've been podcasting for three years now, where

842
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: people are like, I was so excited, that's the one

843
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: I wanted, And I'm like, are you just saying that

844
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: because you're on this podcast right now right? I appreciate

845
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: the honesty. Did you feel like and you you just

846
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: spoke about, you know, like your past relationship and how

847
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: it kind of helped you like learn what qualities you

848
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: did or did not want in a partner, what were

849
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: some like once you got to know Zach and it

850
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: actually met him that he embodied that you did want

851
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: some qualities. It was for me, I was really looking for.

852
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Just like the honesty. He was always very like up

853
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: front and just transparent, and like whether that meant like

854
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: it was a difficult conversation or like a good conversation,

855
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Like he never held back, and I really appreciated that

856
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: because I know how hard that can be, especially like

857
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: even that's still kind of something like I like struggle

858
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: with a little bit of just like okay, like I

859
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt some of feelings, but like I

860
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: need to be honest. Like that's something that he possessed,

861
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: and he was very consistent with that. But also just

862
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: like his confidence, like he was so certain in what

863
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: he wanted and like there was no like there was

864
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: no sway in that, like he knew like I came

865
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: in here for like marriage, I came in here for

866
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: my best friend, Like he's not here to play games.

867
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: And I think like knowing that that was his intentions

868
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: this whole time, like I never felt like I was

869
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: wrong by him, and so like just like that confidence

870
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: and like the honesty factor, it was really just like

871
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: it just shone through to him and so I was like, yeah,

872
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm here, I love this. I love that for you,

873
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: and honestly speaking, of shining. I will say that the

874
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: moment that you stepped in to meet Zach, like it

875
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: seemed like sparks were flying. Then you hit the football date,

876
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: everybody to the beach party, like you literally do it all.

877
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: You truly do it all. But really back to that

878
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: moment of you building up getting to see if this

879
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: person potentially you know, could be somebody spend the rest

880
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: of your life with. When did you really start feeling

881
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: like those like butterflies and those types of sparks fly. Um, yeah,

882
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: I think it was after Um I will say Night one,

883
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: like that's a little same, but like I don't want

884
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: to say, like, oh my goodness, like no why I

885
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: was in love with the kid, but like I definitely

886
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: likely like I definitely felt like a little bit of

887
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: like a spark there just because like I think I

888
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: went into like Night one, like I wasn't even like

889
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't on my radar to even like kiss him

890
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: or anything. Like I was just more focused. I'm like, Okay,

891
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: this is the opportunity to see, like is there a

892
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: connection there? And even if it's not there, like could

893
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: there potentially be one like that's developed later on one? Um,

894
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: And so I remember, like our conversation was very lighthearted,

895
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: but I remember when I started talking about like my

896
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: line of work, and then I think that was like

897
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: a really like connecting factor for him because of what

898
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: his mom um does. And so when he asked, like

899
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: kissed me, I was like, yeah, absolutely, like no hesitation there,

900
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: twist my arm shit, and he did. He asked to

901
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: kiss you, So we know that he did not ask

902
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: to said anyone, right, I mean he really didn't. How

903
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: was that? Oh? It was so it was so sweet,

904
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: so special. I think I was like so excited I

905
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: answered way too quickly. Like watching it back, he was

906
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: like can my kids just like yeah, like I'm so

907
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: he relax a little bit part now, but um, I

908
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: remember like the kiss was just like so sweet, so special. Um.

909
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: He really is like as genuine as it gets. And

910
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: that's something that I just like when it comes to guys,

911
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: like that's just rare. I'm gonna be honest, it's very rare.

912
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I admire that so much. Well, and

913
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: it seemed like that connection kept going because it was

914
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: in the next week that right, it was the next

915
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: week that you got the group date rose during that

916
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: evening portion, which I want to get into a little bit, because, yeah,

917
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, and I felt it was

918
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: very deserved. How let's just start with that. How did

919
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: that feel when he called your name to give you

920
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: that group date? Rose, Yeah, I was. I was very shocked.

921
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: I was genuinely surprised, and not in the sense that

922
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: like I felt like I wasn't deserving of it, but

923
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: it was more so like there's so many other girls

924
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: here and you never know what those conversations were, like,

925
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: like you only know what your conversation is with you

926
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: and him, and although we had like a very fantastic

927
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: conversation just highlighting things on the group date and then

928
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: just like things that he admired me and like just

929
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of getting that validation like one on one, but

930
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: to kind of have him come out out and also

931
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: give that validation in like a group setting. Like I

932
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: was genuinely so happy and wasn't expecting it, Like I said,

933
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: so I felt great. Um, however, we know like how

934
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: how things kind of go down. Let's get into that

935
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't want to start with that,

936
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: but we of course have to ask you we're here,

937
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: so let's Yeah, so obviously we saw Christina make some

938
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: comment of like hmm, whatever she said, I don't understand why.

939
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: And Michelle and I actually talked about this on the

940
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: podcast too, because we really don't rob charity of this moment,

941
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: like and it's not for Christina to understand why Zach

942
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: is making these decisions, like she's not pretty to your

943
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: private time, your conversations, like she has no idea, right,

944
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and she did bring you to tears that night, So

945
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: what was that like when she first made that comment,

946
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: and like it kind of kept going for a little bit,

947
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: like once Zach to Zach walked away, like the girls

948
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: were still talking about it, like talk us through the bit. Yeah,

949
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: Initially when she had made the comment, I was just

950
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: like okay, like what, like what do you mean? I

951
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: think that's when you seem I'm like, I'm sorry, what

952
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: like bless your heart? Like what do you mean? And

953
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: I was a little taken aback, But I think I

954
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't want to fault myself for

955
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: like asking that to like almost in a sense like

956
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: that is what kind of continued the conversation because I

957
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: don't think me asking like for clarification like what did

958
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: you mean by this? Or what did you say is

959
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: the reason why she kept going. But I think, you know,

960
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: for in that moment, I don't want to fault her

961
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: for like how she felt, but I think it was

962
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: also just very important to like have a level of

963
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: self awareness of like reading the room almost or like

964
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: you see, like you can feel those feelings, You can

965
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: have those feelings, but maybe like this is not the

966
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: appropriate timing to vocalize that, especially in this setting, or

967
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: just like not knowing when to like kind of draw

968
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: the line like enough is enough type situation. So you

969
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: obviously the viewers like seeing me visibly like in tears,

970
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: And I don't want apologize for that too, because I

971
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: think we like stigmatize like tears as like a sign

972
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: of weakness. It's not like I think I were totally valid, yeah, right,

973
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: and from from a oh go ahead, no, you're good, um,

974
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: But I just remember, like for me, like that was

975
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: just I like had to think almost instantaneously, like how

976
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: am I going to like regulate myself in this moment,

977
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: Like do I want to like choose to like go

978
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: back and forth with someone or do I just want

979
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: to like have a moment to myself. And that's kind

980
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: of how I regulated myself, which just like through tears

981
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: and then you see me get up in extra stage

982
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: left like this is where the therapists where everyone could

983
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: take no from you. Yes, yes, I think I think

984
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: from a viewers standpoint, okay, because we were watching you

985
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: all go through the state. We're watching and we're seeing

986
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing whatever, you know, whatever's coming across

987
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: our screens of your conversations and we're getting to know

988
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: you ladies and everything like that, and I think we're

989
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: like from a viewer standpoint for me personally, anyways, what

990
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: was so frustrating is you were the person that was

991
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: grounding everybody else and all these other all these other

992
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: moments right like you were there to calm people down.

993
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: You stepped outside of yourself to help others to like

994
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: bring that inner piece. And the least, the least that

995
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: we could do is just to have self awareness in

996
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: this moment. You don't have to. You know, you weren't

997
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: ever asking for someone to, you know, cheer you on

998
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: and let's go what shots and celebrate because you got

999
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: the group ros like you never expect that, but it's like,

1000
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: but damn, like you give so much to the people

1001
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: around you. And help them, and you kind of always

1002
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: naturally fall into this position. So then for that moment

1003
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: to be the one that where they're really kind of

1004
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: cut or were not they Christina's coming at it to

1005
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: really strips that away and I could see why that

1006
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: would be hurtful and frustrating. And no, the tears you

1007
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: you did phenomenal. You handled that. You are a stronger

1008
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: woman to like the way, and I feel like it

1009
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: has to play into kind of your self care that

1010
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: you were talking about, where you were like, yeah, how

1011
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: do I handle this? Like there's a couple different ways

1012
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: I can take, but like how do I preserve my

1013
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: energy and to just not keep egging it on, not

1014
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: to keep asking questions and to just as you said

1015
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: exit stage left. I was like, yeah, kudos, somebody get

1016
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: this girl a trophy or something like the amount of

1017
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: patience and just calm this that you exuded in that moment.

1018
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I was like, kudos to you, yeah, because it could

1019
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: have gone yea sure, battles wisely, like this is not

1020
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: a moment for me, right right, So, speaking of girls

1021
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: that you may or may not be close with, who

1022
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: were who were some of your best friends in the house, Yeah,

1023
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: I like I said, we had a phenomenal cast, like

1024
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: and I don't say that lightly, like a lot of

1025
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: the girls and almost all of them, like I was

1026
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: extremely close with um but you'll see, like there is

1027
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: a few that like I'm just like all right, I

1028
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: think after last week's episode, like Brooklyn, like she's a writer,

1029
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Like she is very protective but also has this very

1030
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: like sweet side, and I really like just connected with that.

1031
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you so much for like standing

1032
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: up for me, Like I appreciated that. Um Kylie, like

1033
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: she's incredibly like sweet, um Ariel me and her have

1034
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: like some of the best conversations, but she's also very funny.

1035
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: And then um Katie, So Katie is just so so

1036
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: down to earth, easy to get along with. So those

1037
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: are the few of the ones that like really stood out.

1038
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I know that you mentioned so you can see that

1039
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: you and Brooklyn are really close and I'm sure that

1040
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: you guys really had so many conversations supporting each other

1041
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: as you navigate through this really really weird, weird, weird world.

1042
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: How how was it, honestly seeing and hearing how she

1043
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: opened up to sactress about everything that she's been through. Yeah,

1044
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: UM me and her really like talked a lot about that,

1045
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: which it's so it's so weird because it's like these

1046
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: are the people that were like going against or like

1047
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: we're dating the same person, and it's really hard. But

1048
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: I will say like I felt like I personally did

1049
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job of like just separating the two and

1050
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: compartmentalizing like Okay, they're dating the same guy, but also

1051
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: like I'm also forming friendships like in a weird way. Um.

1052
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: And so at any point, like usually whenever the girls

1053
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: talked about it, um, but like from Brooklyn standpoint, like

1054
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: it was always just like out of like genuineness that

1055
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: she was like bringing something up to me or talking

1056
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: about certain things that she wanted to talk about with

1057
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: him or what happened in her her life. UM. I

1058
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: always met her there with like grace and so um,

1059
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: me and her just like really just defended like a

1060
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: really special bond. And so yeah, I don't know if

1061
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: the answer the question, did it? Yeah? Yeah, yep, I

1062
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: think And I think you said it best, like and

1063
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: no one unless you're really on the show going through it,

1064
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't think people can really understand and like that

1065
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: compartmentalization where it's like these are like you are forming

1066
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: some lifelong friendships and you're getting really close with these people.

1067
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're spending ten times more time in Brooklyn

1068
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: than you are with Zack, right, So it makes sense

1069
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: that you would get close and still like to knowing

1070
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: her past and anyone's past, like knowing how important that is,

1071
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: like if she were to be the one to end

1072
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: up with Zak. Of course, these are conversations that have

1073
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: to be had. So I think it's really good that

1074
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you had each other to lean on for support, because

1075
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: I can't imagine her share in that would have been easy.

1076
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean not only with Zach, but let's be honest,

1077
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: like with half of America that's probably watching this right

1078
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: the world exactly. Yeah, did you feel like besides Brooklyn

1079
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: you were able to get a lot of support from

1080
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: the other women like reciprocated to you as well. That's

1081
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: why I think we all were so close to season.

1082
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: It's just like everyone is genuinely like so supportive of

1083
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: one another, and we just, um, I think we were

1084
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: all like selfishly like in a way, like rooting for ourselves,

1085
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: but also like other girls too, um, which is like

1086
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: I said, it's a weird distinction to make, but we

1087
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: I definitely had that support from a lot of the

1088
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: girls in the house. We love that we can ye'll

1089
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: see everything that flows through your so that's amazing. And

1090
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: of course because of all this, we're not shocked that

1091
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: you received a rose this week and then you learn

1092
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: that you guys are going to London. They're how excited

1093
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: were you? Have you so excited? When he said London?

1094
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, um, because I was

1095
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: actually gonna go to London, like I think before I

1096
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: came on the show, like this past summer, but like

1097
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: I just ended up not going. So I was like, okay,

1098
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: this is like also on my bucket list to go.

1099
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: So I was like really excited. Um, never been before,

1100
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: So I had no idea what was going to be

1101
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: in store, but I genuinely was like feeling all the emotions.

1102
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: When he said all right, we're going to London, I

1103
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, yeah, how fun. I feel like this season,

1104
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: you guys are getting in some really good cities, well countries,

1105
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: cities in the countries, like right away. I feel like

1106
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: usually we live in the mansion for like three ish

1107
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: weeks and then we start traveling. It's usually like for

1108
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: the most part domestic and then you go in international,

1109
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: like oh Dan, they're going international right away, right on? Damn. Um, Well,

1110
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: we're so excited to see what's to come obviously in

1111
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: London and be on into that and and I mean,

1112
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: Michelle and I obviously love you and are manifesting that

1113
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: you go very far, So we can't wait to see

1114
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: what happens between you and Zach. Without getting too much away,

1115
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: can you give us a little teaser of what's to come?

1116
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: M Um, Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of emotions,

1117
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of emotions, and um, without too many teasers.

1118
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to London, so it's gonna be

1119
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: a little chilly, so maybe that's like a louding to

1120
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: some things. Yeah, good teaser. Oh yeah, to like multiple

1121
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm like taking this all kinds of boys now because

1122
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna get cozy or does it get chilly with

1123
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: the drama? Does that make sense? That was a really

1124
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: good teaser. That was like the best teaser we've had

1125
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: usually it's unique, right, But Okay, so I have to

1126
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: ask this. I've wanted to ask this from the start,

1127
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: but if the opportunity were to be presented, to you.

1128
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: We want you to be a bachelor, But if it

1129
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: was presented to you, would you accept? Um? I think

1130
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: I would. Um. Yeah, I mean I think it takes

1131
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: a very special person to be in kind of the

1132
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: driver's of something like this. Um. And I think for me,

1133
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: like I think you guys obviously can see my heart

1134
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: and see like how adamant I am um about my

1135
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: journey and so I feel like you know, if it

1136
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: was to happen, it could be a good thing. So yeah,

1137
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: I would. I would be open Hell Jesus, Jesus who

1138
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: thinks who sings the song Jesus takes the wheel? Because

1139
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm so charity charity, I'm singing it and I'm a charity.

1140
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: Take the wheel. I'll feel real comfortable. Then we are

1141
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: manifesting this charity. We truly are, We truly are. It's

1142
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: been such a joy talking to you. Like I said,

1143
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: we have fought for you to get on this podcast

1144
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: for so damn and it's been It's been so much

1145
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: fun just getting to know you, and we we can't

1146
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: wait to continue to see us on our screens. And

1147
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: we do want to play a quick game with you

1148
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: so that our listeners can get to know you a

1149
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: bit more, and it's called rapid fire. And so I'm

1150
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: going to shoot a question to you and you're gonna

1151
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: give like a one word response or a brief response. Um,

1152
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to give any explanation and it'll just

1153
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: like be super up tempo. You're ready. Yeah. Are you

1154
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: an early riser or a night owl? Definitely night owl?

1155
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: We are up. What is the best suiting advice you've

1156
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: ever received? Um? I will have to say, love yourself first, yeah, putting. Yeah,

1157
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: it's not selfish to love yourself first at all. That

1158
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: was deep. We're going now. What is what is your

1159
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: go to pizza order? Um, the Kevin mccallister's special. It's cheese.

1160
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: I love it, but I might not love cheese pizza kicks,

1161
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: so it's I get a girl. Okay, wrong. Give us

1162
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: one word that your best friends would use to describe you. Um.

1163
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: I think they must say authentic, like Charity's real, Like

1164
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: she's just real. I get that. Your favorite curse word

1165
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: probably fuck, oh my god. Everyone always pauses, They're like,

1166
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: can I curse on this? Yes? No, I'm not. Probably

1167
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: need a straight TikTok rad Okay, what is the most

1168
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: played song or artists in your library. I'm a Drake girl.

1169
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: Mmm lottle toxic maybe, but I love Drake, so hey,

1170
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: I'll write my favorite cocktail. Um, I'm a French seventy

1171
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: five girl, which is um gin and champagne and lemon juice.

1172
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: But I sometimes switch out the gin and we'll like

1173
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: add tequila. So yeah, I had no hesitation with that

1174
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: one real quick. I like it. Well, I'm gonna have

1175
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to send you some of my sparkling

1176
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: wine bordone just so you can try it in this cocktail.

1177
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: I actually stuted to make it all the time, Like

1178
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even renamb it that, but like I went

1179
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: through a phase where that's all I would drink, Like

1180
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: back in April, I was obsessed. I was like, I

1181
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: gotta cut this out a little bit. But oh my goodness,

1182
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: that's a good one. It is okay, if you could

1183
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: be any animal, what would it be? Um, a cheetah.

1184
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: They're giving like fears, but like not not doing too much,

1185
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: like a bonus, like a subtle bonus. I guess yeah,

1186
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: that's like I'll work for it if I have to,

1187
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: But until exactly exactly you love? What is the current

1188
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: screen saver on your phone. Um, it is me and

1189
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: my best friend. I'll show you guys. Um, we're just

1190
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: such little I don't know if you guys can see it. Okay, Yeah,

1191
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: we love bestie. What's her name? Bestie? Karina? Hi, Karina,

1192
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: shout out to you girl. Okay, besides London, if you

1193
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Um?

1194
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only person who has not

1195
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: been here, but see training grees so beautiful. I haven't been. Yes,

1196
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: okay girls, girls yet people have, but I need to

1197
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: go there immediately. Love that. If you had to describe

1198
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: this season of The Bachelor in one word or phrase,

1199
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: what would it be, M I will say sentimental. Um,

1200
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: and that's not like a sad It's like sentimental can

1201
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: be anything. But I think for like both the contestants

1202
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: and like with Zach, like you'll see, there's just a

1203
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of emotions that are going to

1204
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: be involved. All right, Well, you have us hooked. We

1205
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: can't wait to see more of you. Okay, So this

1206
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 1: is the last part. And we always love to share

1207
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: resources with our listeners, So just important information or topics

1208
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: or hence the name a resource that people can go

1209
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: to to learn more about, especially diversity. We think it's

1210
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: so important to just know more within this franchise. Um,

1211
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: So I'll just start Michelle can't take it after that,

1212
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap with you, and then after that

1213
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: we'll get into our fun little Rose and Thorn, which

1214
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: I'll describes. But um so my resource it was actually

1215
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: something different, but I switched after Rihanna gave me some

1216
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: info during the Super Bowl and we all know that, well, Michelle,

1217
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: you definitely know you have fenty products. But I figured

1218
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: it would be a good time to share some black

1219
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: owned beauty businesses just because it is Black History Month.

1220
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I have a quick list. The first

1221
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: one I'm going to start with. The name is Pattern.

1222
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: It's hair products. I actually bought some of the products

1223
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: for Thomas for his beautiful black curls that he absolutely loves. So, um,

1224
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: if you need any good hair products, it's called Pattern.

1225
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: They still at Target too, which isn't they do? Yes,

1226
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: they do. And then a couple other ones here and

1227
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: I'll screenshot all of these and linked them all my

1228
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: highlights real and take them so you can quickly go

1229
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: anyone listening can go and look at it. Another black

1230
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: owned beauty brand is called Jubious Place. There's also one

1231
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: called Mented, which I have seen some of my girlfriends

1232
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: use and my mother my future mother in law as well.

1233
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: And then the last one is mel So I will

1234
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: link them and tag them on my Instagram so anyone

1235
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: can go check them out and you know exactly where

1236
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: to find them, very easily perfect. All right, So last

1237
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: week I spoke a lot about just like this one

1238
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: sheet that you can go to with like really celebrating

1239
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: Black History Month, the dues and the don'ts, and making

1240
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: sure that it's not this like water down version. And

1241
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: a big piece of that was making sure that you're

1242
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: purchasing kind of goes alongside of what Becca saying, but

1243
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: purchasing products that are coming directly from a black owned

1244
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: business and not purchasing products that are going through a

1245
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: why owned business that is trying to represent black owned products.

1246
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: And so what I found would be really helpful this

1247
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: week is there is a website called Black Owned Map,

1248
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: and it's essentially this black marketplace where you can type

1249
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: in what you're looking for, whether it's hair products, beauty products,

1250
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,479
Speaker 1: whether it's other services, that you need to get done,

1251
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: and it will direct you to a list of different own,

1252
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: black owned businesses in your area or that are close

1253
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: to you. And so again it's the Black Owned Map,

1254
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: and I will link it in my heighlights and everything.

1255
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: But it's just a really easy way that you can

1256
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: go through, filtered and like credible source of being able

1257
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: to actually locate those businesses that we can support. I

1258
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, Yes, thank you Michelle and Charity. You

1259
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: are up if you have yes the same Mine is

1260
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: actually a podcast but Alex l she's a restorative writer

1261
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: and author and she has several books a lot with

1262
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: like healing, but her specific podcast with Libby Delaney is

1263
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: called This Morning Walk, and this podcast essentially focuses on

1264
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: mindfulness practices is and the transformative power of how a

1265
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: morning walk can basically like set the tone for your day.

1266
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: And so I'm a person who really strives and tries

1267
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: to incorporate mindfulness into my life, which is essentially just

1268
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: being present and learning to kind of detach and separate

1269
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: and living in the moment. And so she has a

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Speaker 1: lot of like different prompts that are for each individual,

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: like morning podcast that she kind of walks you through,

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: but then also teaches you different types of breathwork just

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: good for like breathing and keeping you calm and so

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01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: good tranquility here. But I love her, I'll adore her work,

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: and so that's just a good podcast if you're looking

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01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: to kind of incorporate that or struggle with trying to

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01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: find time to practice my mindfulness so amazing, Well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to check that out because I could use

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Speaker 1: anything to help my stress levels. I think that's and

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Speaker 1: you probably I'm assuming you. Yeah, those techniques on the season,

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Speaker 1: I can imagine you start. You started early, so that's definitely. Yeah. Well, Charity,

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Speaker 1: before we let you go, we have the fun part,

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01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: which is the rose and the thorn. So from your

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: time so far on on film me and Zack season

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: or even just watching it back, everything that we've seen,

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: what has been your rose, which is your highlight? And

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01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: then thorn could be like a cringing moment, an awkward moment,

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: something that you're like, ah, I could have lived without

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01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, I will say the rose will have

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01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: to be the Bahama group day I was truly thriving.

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Speaker 1: I will say, um, my thorn, Oh, this is like

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: tricky I'm like, I feel like there's different ones, but um,

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: I will have to say for me, saying goodbye to

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: the girls, like it's never easy, and I don't think

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: like that even like change doesn't matter like your relationship

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01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: or dynamic. It's just like we spend so much time

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: with each other, so it's still hard nonetheless, and so

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01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: having to like say goodbye or just living through another

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01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: rose ceremony. Yeah, so yes, that's like, yeah, well it's

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Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: a good thorn to have because it means, like, yeah,

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: building connections and forming those friendships, which is so important.

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01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: So Charity, we have absolutely loved having you on. It

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: was such a pleasure, I really, I mean, I can't

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: wait to see more of you on Zach Sason. But

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: Michelle and I are going to fight hard for you

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01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: for lead next season. So this will not be the

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: last few hear of us apologies in advance. It's going

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: to be hashtag charity for Batchelrette from here on out, everyone,

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01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: so just deal with it. Yeah, I just signing on

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01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: as a full time campaign. I'm Michelle, and I support

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: this message, this message. Yes, y'all have been such a class.

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: It's honestly, like, I'd never thought I would even have

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: this moment with you guys, so I'm so glad I did.

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: And y'are so fun, so sweet, So thank you guys.

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: Let me and has to navigate, always reach out, whatever

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: you need, we got you. Um. You know, it's a

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: it's a weird world and a weird time with everything

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01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: that's happening. So yeah, we're always here, um for whatever

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: you need. Yeah, so thank you guys, Thank y'all. I'm upseted.

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: I love her. She's just she's just got it all.

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: She's just she's the person you want in the driver's spot, Like,

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01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: she's just she's so sweet, she's so thoughtful. Um has

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: good a head, like a really good head on her shoulders.

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Speaker 1: So I just I hope with whatever happens um in

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Speaker 1: the future, I just hope that she's happy. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: the girl that you would have wanted on the season

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: with you, like somebody that is fun, so kind. You know,

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: she's a girl's girl, so she can kick it, but

1330
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: also has that level head where she can kind of

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: keep you grounded in the midst of the chaos. So

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge charity fan. You know what I'm gonna say,

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01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: I'll I would love to see her as bouchelor Otte

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: one day, so I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed over here.

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Speaker 1: But until then, we still have a ways to go.

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: We still have more than half a season, so I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see where she goes in the next

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Speaker 1: few weeks. So thank you Charity for joining us, and

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01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 1: a huge thank you to all of our Happy Hour listeners.

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: We couldn't be here each and every week without you,

1341
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: so thank you for tuning in. And new episodes of

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: The Boucher air every Monday at eight seven Central on

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01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: ABC and you can stream the next day on Hulu.

1344
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: And don't forget that casting is still open for men

1345
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,120
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01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,599
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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,080
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Speaker 1: Cheers