1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: KFI. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 2: I Am six forty. You're listening to the John and 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app for around 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: the radio for one until four after four o'clock. Go 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: to the app and you can hear the John and 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Kennon Deemed podcast, same show and pick up the parts 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: you missed, Well, you probably heard, or maybe you're just 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: tuning in. Trump has been found liable in a civil 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: court in New York of battery and defamation involving a 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: sexual assault against a writer named e Gene Carroll. This 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: happened in the mid nineteen. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: Nineties, nineteen ninety six, and they awarded her five million dollars. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: We're going to go to Royal Oaks. 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Legal analyst ABC News for KFI with a look at 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: the legal decision behind us. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: What did they specifically high Royal? How are you? 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: What did they specifically find find that Trump did? I mean, 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: is it are they claiming she said she was raped 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: by him? 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: But that such a weird compromised verdict? 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Exactly? 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 4: So they found two things. Number One, they found that 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 4: he committed battery. Now, battery could be three different kinds 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: of things. One could be rape, one is sexual abuse, 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: improper touching, they found he was guilty of sexual abuse 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: but not guilty of rape, and so they awarded a 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: couple of million dollars in connection with the battery. But 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: then there's more. Defamation was a claim against Trump because 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: she said that when she came out with her allegations recently, 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: he called her a liar or that defamed her, hurt 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: her reputation, And the jury went big for that one. 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: They awarded two million, nine hundred eighty thousand dollars for defamation. 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: You add the two million twenty thousand for battery, and 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: it's a grand total of a tick under five million 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: dollars that Trump has been ordered to pay. 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: He was a no show, but they did play what 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: a deposition he did exactly. 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: You hit on the key to the case. I think 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: this clearly was compromise. I mean, you have an unanimous 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: jury verdict requirement in federal court there in New York, 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: so they all had to agree whether they liked Trump 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: or not. But the bottom line is he did not 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: show up at the trial. Now, his deposition was played 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: where he denied everything. But juries don't like it. Guys, 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: when they put their lives on hold and they're doing 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: their civic duty and the defendant doesn't even show up, 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: and they might have cheated and what on the internet 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: last weekend and realized he was in Europe golfing over 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: the last several days. So their attitude might have been, Wow, 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: he won't even show up, he won't look us in 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: the eye and deny these allegations. So I think that 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: might have fueled the anger. And yet they weren't about 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: to say that he raped her because I mean, she 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: could remember the year, the month, or the date. There 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: was an Instagram post she made a walking tour of 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: hideous men of New York City. She's standing there smiling 57 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: next to a Trump impersonator. She first went public with 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 4: this recently when negotiating for a seventy grand advance for 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: her book. She admitted she shopped again at the same 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: start or she even watched The Apprentice in the years 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: after the alleged rate. So does any of that mean 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: he didn't do it? No. In psychologists say victims process 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: events in different ways. So it looks like this jury 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 4: was troubled by this stuff and troubled with the fact 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 4: that Donald Trump did not show up for the trial. 66 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: Right again, it's a civil trial, so they just had 67 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: to find you know that it was more likely than. 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: Not that this happened exactly preponderance of the evidence as 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: opposed to the criminal standard of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: But it was amazing to me that they took so 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: a few hours, like three or four hours to do that, 72 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: with all this these thorny issues, that it just again 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: has all the earmarks of a compromised verdict. We're not 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: going to say he's a rapist, but we are going 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: to say he sexually abused her, and we're not going 76 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: to go nuts in award a billion dollars. They only 77 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: awarded twenty thousand dollars impunities in connection with the sexual abuse. 78 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: Bottom line is he's a loser, but it could have 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: been worse for Trump. 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: All right, I know you got to run off. Thanks 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: very much for giving us a couple of minutes, Royal Bet, 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Thanks all right, Royal Oaks. ABC News legal analyst. What 83 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: did this woman do? Because she is a twenty nineteen 84 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: memoir she wrote a book? I mean, was she Do 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: you remember what her career has been? I forget she 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: she was had a TV show on I think CNBC. 87 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: Because I was reading through stories today, and that she 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: knew Roger Ales. And it's said that she had a 89 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: TV show or was on a show on a network 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: that Roger Ayles was programming. Therefore, Trump knew who she was, 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: right because Ales was one of his best friends and 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: he programmed CNBC back in the early nineties before Fox News. 93 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: So seventy nine. 94 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: She had something called ask Egene, a column that appeared 95 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: in l magazine from nineteen ninety three through twenty nineteen. 96 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a pretty long period. So that's what because 97 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what does she have a memoir about? But 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: I guess if that's what she did for a living 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: for most of her her later life made I think primaries. 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: I think she primarily she was a journalist and a writer. Yeah, 101 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: And I mean there's there's photos on a photo of 102 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: her on Drudge going back thirty years ago, and it's 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: a shot showing the back of Trump's head, side of 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: his face, right, and she she looks quite attractive in 105 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: the deposition, because I saw a few clips of his deposition. 106 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: At one point he was showing a picture and said 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: who is this And he goes, oh, that's Marla, his 108 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: second wife. And it turned out it was Eugene Carroll. 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Ooh, and I. 110 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: Looked at this photo of his type that Drudge is running. 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, in mid nineteen nineties. 112 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could say it first glance, thinking that was 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Marlon Maples. 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: So apparently part of her closing was that I am 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: his type, that she was a Miss Indiana and she 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: was apparently, you know, because I think part of Trump's 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: dismissal with these things is I look at her. 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, she said nine, Now I know. And if you 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: look at her then too, Oden is what he said, 120 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: you look at her then too. Yeah, that's definitely Trump's type. 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: They brought up the two thousand and five Access Hollywood 122 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: video too, in which we now know that he said 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: he can grab women's genitals without asking. Remember that because 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: he's a star, because it's sort of the same idea. 125 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: He just saw her at the department store and grabbed 126 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: her in the dressing room. 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: He meant that, and he did that. 128 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: They had two other women testify that they were assaulted 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: by Trump in a similar fashion. They just never brought 130 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: cases against him, but they were allowed to testify in 131 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: this case to show a pattern of behavior. And they 132 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: also brought two witnesses that Egene Carol called right after it. 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Happened, and so you had two witnesses. 134 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I got a call and she described a sexual assault, 135 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: and he didn't really contest it. It was the closest 136 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: thing to a no contest play you could get. He 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: didn't show up, and the lawyers didn't make much of 138 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: an argument. 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: Trump lawyer, the Tacopina guy tried to bring up a 140 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty Law in Order SVU episode in which a 141 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: woman's raped in the dressing move a lingerie section of 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: a Bergdorf Goodman store, which is the store where Egene 143 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: Carroll said this happened, but they countered by saying two 144 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: of Carol's friends testified. She told him about the encounter 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: years before the Law and Order episode air, So he 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: tried to pull that one too, that she got it 147 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: off of a TV episode, same department store. 148 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: I'm looking through her Wikipedia entry. She wrote for Saturday 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: Night Live in the mid nineteen eighties even was nominated 150 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: for an Emmy for Outstanding Writing, and then for three 151 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: years she was the host and producer of Ask Ejen 152 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: TV series that was on the precursor to MSNBC. 153 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I think I said CNBC. 154 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Before MSNBC, the channel was known as America's Talking. 155 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: It was a TV talk remember. 156 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: That for yeah, And then they switched to MSNBC now 157 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: and her show with the Stand. 158 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: Then, apparently she probably had an effect because she was 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: even explaining why it took her this long to come 160 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: forward with her with her claim against Trump. She explained 161 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: exactly what women go through and how difficult it is 162 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. The me too thing convinced her 163 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: it was time to tell her story about what Trump 164 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: did to her. But again they didn't find Trump liable. 165 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: I guess at the word for rape but sex. 166 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: About her story made it sound like rape, that he 167 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: penetrated her. That's what I remember reading from her claim. 168 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: That's what That's what I saw this morning. 169 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: And there was no video or audio feed of the trials, 170 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: so this didn't get as prominent news coverage. And plus 171 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: it's lost among one hundred other Trump trials, yes, you know, 172 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: potential potential indictments. And she also came across a little 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: wifty in her interviews that she did a few years ago, 174 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: so it was one of those situations. He's not she 175 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: seems a little who knows what the hell happened. 176 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: And I guess the defamation is because he ripped her 177 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: on social media for her claims. 178 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, called her a liar. Now he did? 179 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: You know that's you know he could get he could 180 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: get that lawsuit against him every day of the year. 181 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: Right, Well, get ready, you have to line up when 182 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: you're trying to get money out of Trump from lawsuits. 183 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: It's all he does to spend time in lawsuits. Oh yeah, 184 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. 185 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't think she's expecting a check. I think she 186 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: wanted the verdict. 187 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: All right, we got more coming up concerning Trump, and 188 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm actually ready to believe something concerning his latest run 189 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: for the presidency. Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty 190 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 192 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 193 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no money today. The bank is empty. The 194 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 2: bank is empty. Oh, bank troubles. The bank Trump is 195 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: ird is connected to one of the banks. It's the family. 196 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: There was a run on our bank, and we don't 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: any more prize money. So what are you gonna do better? 198 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: Not that's all the money back, though, we bring that 199 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: back periodically. Sure, yes, not entirely out of money. 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe I actually say, don't fret, fret see anybody 201 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: threat word again? You see in print? Right, right, nobody 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: uses out left. 203 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: Don't reel as the Times likes to say, people are 204 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: reeling breaking news. 205 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Uh, Feinstein's on her way back to d C. She's 206 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: going to resume her in person us Senate job. 207 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Oh there you go, Okay, all right. 208 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: She's been out since mid February. She boarded a private 209 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: plane today and could be there as early as this evening. 210 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: And of course there's been there's the word. There's been 211 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: a lot of fretting by Democrats that they need her there. 212 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: They're voting. 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Fretting is the word, like she's going to vote right, 214 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: she's voting, like she has any idea what she's voting on. No. 215 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody about this over the weekend 216 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: and I said, they've been overheard in hallways where she 217 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: doesn't know what's going on and she's questioning her age. 218 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell me this? They pointed the green button. 219 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: That's what they do. My favorite is, what are you 220 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: talking about? That's the be all end And to all 221 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: the fears, No, idea what's going on in the world. 222 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: You just keep asking that they must feel like they're 223 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: caretakers in a nursing homer staff members. You know, it's 224 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: like when you have your your your batty old mother 225 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: or grandmother living in the house with you and her 226 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: mind's half gone, but somebody's got to take care of him, 227 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: and then you got to deal with you know. 228 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: That's just getting up and eating and pooping. Right, this 229 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: woman's supposed to be a US senator where she's got 230 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: to weigh in. Although you know you found that out 231 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: and we found that out too with what was the 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: one hundred year old could you have or that walked 233 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: around Strom? Yeah, that it probably you know, the Senate job. 234 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: Is overrated because they were able to cover that up 235 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: for many years where he had no idea what was 236 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: going on. So because for most of the votes, they 237 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: vote according to party lines, and there might be two 238 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: or three senators that are more moderate on either side 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: who can especially in a split senate like we have, you. 240 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Know, where you've got to lobby them. 241 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: You've got to explained things they're actually interested in the 242 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: issue in detail, and they can go either way. But 243 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: most of these, most of these jackasses, you know, they're 244 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: party line voters, and. 245 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: Probably in the kis Strom it wasn't fifty to fifty 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 3: like it is now. 247 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: It's not fifty to fifty, it's fifty one to forty 248 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: nine or whatever. But still it's so close that you 249 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: pretty much have to have everybody in there right, and 250 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: you're right. They vote strictly along party lines. As Joe 251 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: Biden likes to say, back and mind, we could work 252 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: with the other side. I do a lot of racists 253 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: from the South, Thanks Joe. We're just talking about the 254 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: verdict by a jury in New York City against the Trumpster. 255 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: It's a civil trial, nine man jury, six men and 256 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: three women. 257 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: It turned out to be. 258 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: They voted more likely than not that Trump sectually abused 259 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: and defamed a woman by the name of Egene Carroll. 260 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: The amount of the award was about five million dollars. 261 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Strangely enough, this is a marriage made in heaven that 262 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: has to continue. Tomorrow night, Trump is going to be 263 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: back on CNN. He hasn't been on CNN since he 264 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: ran for president. It's so they're doing a town hall 265 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: with Trump. The moderator is a woman by the name 266 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: of Caitlin Collins. 267 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: She's one of their morning show hosts that was fighting 268 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: with Don Lemon. Oh okay, yeah, well she was. 269 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: Barred from a Rose Garden event in twenty eighteen. The 270 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: Trump team got upset with her shouted questions in the 271 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: Oval office earlier in the day. But what I realized 272 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: when I started read about this, and I did see 273 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: a couple of columns that agreed, it's it's it makes 274 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 3: sense for CNN to bring him back because when they 275 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: did all his rallies in twenties fifteen and twenty sixteen, 276 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: they got pretty good numbers. Yeah, and they felt like, 277 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: we're not supporting him, We're just showing you what this 278 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: clown is up to. So they want him back for 279 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: the reasons that day have incredibly. 280 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Low audience numbers right now. No, he's programming. This can't hurt. 281 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: It's the programming. It's the Donald Trump Show and it's 282 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: been renewed. Now. 283 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: The other theory is, which also makes a lot of sense, Uh, 284 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: this is what the people that want Biden to be 285 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: re elected want more of Trump. 286 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: They want Trump to win the nomination. 287 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: Yes, he's going to be much easier to beat for 288 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Biden than Ron DeSantis would be. 289 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: They must have a lot of private polling that tells 290 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: him that because everything is pointing in this direction because 291 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: and it's probably good and CNN programmers probably said the 292 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: same thing. This is the guy because he can't beat 293 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: Biden one on one. 294 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Primarily they want money, and then the progressives in the 295 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: media want to Biden as president. And you know, so 296 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: it's simple, you know, puff puff Trump up, make him 297 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: the losing opponent of Biden, and make a lot of 298 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: money doing it. 299 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, So that's why they're making friends. 300 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: And he's in Republican polls. But you think we've got 301 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: a long way to go. When when Santis officially ent 302 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: there is in the field takes more shape, you think 303 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: it'll tighten up. 304 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: Is that what you think? Yeah? I think it will. 305 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: And I also think that if for some reason Trump 306 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: drops out, like you he said, to prison or something, 307 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: I think everybody voting for Trump will vote for DeSantis, 308 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: and a lot will run from prison by and he will, 309 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of independents who won't vote for Trump 310 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: would vote for DeSantis. I think DeSantis has a better 311 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: chance of beating Biden than Trump. 312 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so I see over the weekend Biden is now 313 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: at the lowest approval ratings for the first term for 314 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: a president than they've ever seen Biden. Trump had some 315 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: pretty poor approval ratings too, and among independents, he's really sinking. 316 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,119 Speaker 1: Biden clearly can be defeated. Clearly. 317 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean, two thirds of the country think he's senile. 318 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: Two thirds of the country think physically he's not capable 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: of being president. You imagine you have a chance to 320 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: run for president and your opponent two thirds of the 321 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: country thinks he's mentally out to lunch. 322 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: Well, I can't imagine. 323 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: The only person who has a chance of losing to 324 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: Biden is Trump. DeSantis runs, are probably a half a 325 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: dozen other Republicans that are talking about running could probably 326 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: all beat Biden because most of Biden's campaign is going 327 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: to be running ugly, horrible commercials about Trump, and much 328 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: of that's going to be true. 329 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Imagine what they could. 330 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Do with this sexual assault decision in the civil trial 331 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: and imagine the effect that has on independent female voters 332 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: and the kind of turnout you would get from Democratic 333 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: female voters on top of the abortion issue. No, Trump 334 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: is the worst candidate to run against Biden, and there's 335 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: any number of people who could beat Biden, because Biden 336 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: is a corpse, there's nothing left, and he's got Kamala 337 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: Harris behind him. 338 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm not I didn't think it was a coincidence that 339 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: his approval rating hit it's new low right after he 340 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: announced he was running for reaction. 341 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: That was the final straw for some people. He said, 342 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no no. 343 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: And if he was hopeful, he would drop out, and 344 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: if he had a real vice presidential nominee behind him, 345 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: any generic Democrat, any generic Democrat, half decent moderate governor 346 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: or senator or whoever right running his vice president, and 347 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: then maybe he'd win because people say it doesn't matter 348 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: if he dies, but it really matters if he dies. 349 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: If you have Kamdla Harris's president, that's that's that's a 350 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: hard show. So I mean, I wish that Republican voters 351 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: would would would go for DeSantis or anybody else, because 352 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: then your side will win. 353 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, and I still go back to 354 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. We went to the convention in Cleveland and 355 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: I ran unto this delegate coming out of the convention 356 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: center and he said, you know, Trump, it's a binary choice, 357 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: Trump or Clinton. I got to go with, because that's 358 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: the policies I prefer. I'm going to basically ignore the 359 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: crazy personality and vote for somebody that's on the same. 360 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Road I am in terms of wherever we want this 361 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: country to go. 362 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: So that's your exactly right. It could be a third 363 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: party candidate. There's a lot of rumor about. 364 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: That, but well, you know what I heard is Steve Bannon, 365 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Trump's old advisor, wants to finance a Robert Kennedy Junior 366 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: campaign as an independent that that could screw Biden a 367 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: bit right, right right, so you might you might see, 368 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: you know, chess moves like that to scramble things. 369 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: It's about speaking to him, and he is a strange 370 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: combination of all sorts of things. 371 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: Robert F. 372 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior is running as a Democrat, so he's taking 373 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: on Biden, but where he is in terms of. 374 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: The issues is all over the map. We'll talk about 375 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: it coming up. Johnny Ken k IF I AM six 376 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio ad. 377 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 378 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: I AM six. 379 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: Were on the radio from one until four. After four o'clock, 380 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: you could hear the podcast. Johnny can on demand and 381 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: you can hear all the parts that you missed the 382 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: first time, all right, and the moist slide is coming 383 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: back around already. Moistline Friday. 384 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: I'll leave a message through that app or call the 385 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: toll free number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six. 386 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: We'll be talking to Steve Gregory after two o'clock, see 387 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: what he's learned about the border patrol. They prepare for 388 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: the end of Title forty two, and just a couple 389 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: of days it'll be officially repealed by the US government. 390 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: Although I got to say, the millions of migrants that 391 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: have entered the US during Biden's term did not really 392 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: do much. 393 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Were they really bothering at that? But we'll talk to 394 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: Steve because. 395 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: The end of that is going to send a message, 396 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: and this is more important than anything that the US 397 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: is open for business again to get here because there's 398 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: one less tool they have to immediately deport you. 399 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: There is nothing in the way now, nothing in the 400 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: way now, right. 401 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Biden was the first thing to come down because he 402 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: took down a lot of other Trump's policies, and now 403 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: Tattle forty two is going away, And of course that 404 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: was the emergency health order. Back in the days of 405 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: the frenzy over COVID nineteen twenty twenty and twenty one. 406 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: We were just talking about the presidential race for next year, 407 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: and John had mentioned that there is some word that 408 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: there might be some backing for Robert Kennedy Junior to 409 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: run as an independent. About a month ago, he announced 410 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: he was challenging Biden for the Democratic nomination. The first 411 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: polls that came out do have been double digits. I'm 412 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: seeing fourteen percent fifteen percent, which isn't bad when you 413 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: just announce. So a lot of questions about whether or 414 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 3: not he'll be a factor in either Biden's attempt to 415 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: regain the Democratic nomination or whether or not he runs 416 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: as an independent. He does make news. I'll say that 417 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: he's really a mishmash on issues. If you don't remember, 418 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: of course, he is the nephew of President John F. 419 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: Kennedy and the son his father was Robert F. Kennedy, 420 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: So that's why he's our FK. 421 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Jude. 422 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: He was an environmental lawyer for a long time. He's 423 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: written books. He worked on a lot of issues such 424 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: as clean water, but for the last fifteen years he's 425 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: focused on one topic a lot. 426 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: Vaccines are not safe. He's a fanatic. 427 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: He's probably the best known public fanatic against vaccines. 428 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: The Children's Health Defense is anti vaccine charity saw revenues 429 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: more than double in twenty twenty to nearly seven million dollars. Yep, 430 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: it's a good living, isn't it. 431 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: He wrote a book about Anthony Fauci, obviously not a 432 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: fan of Fauci's. 433 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: Do you see how the world works? 434 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: He has a position that most people don't have. They 435 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: don't believe it right. The sciences is settled on the 436 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: general idea of vaccines. Because again he's not just anti 437 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: this vaccine or that, he's anti all the whole concept 438 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: of vaccines, or so he claims. 439 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: But what can he do. 440 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: He can put together, especially in the Internet age, on 441 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: an organization that promises to fight against vaccines. 442 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: And he gets donations. 443 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: It's seven million dollars in the bank, and then he 444 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 2: gives himself. 445 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: A salary out of it. 446 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: And it's a total nutball position, but hey, it's a living, 447 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: a great living. 448 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: Now he's running as a Democrat, where that wouldn't seem 449 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: to be a popular topic. I'm anti vaccine. He also 450 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: has appeared had events that pushed the belief that the 451 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty presidential election was stolen from Trump. 452 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: He's again, he's running as a Democrat. 453 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: He's also made it clear that he believes that you 454 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: should compete in sports of your biological origin. 455 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Well, he's probably an old fashioned Democrat. 456 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: I see, Yeah, the Democrats are hardly write. I don't 457 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: think about those guys anymore exactly. But you know the way, well, 458 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: I mean the way his dad and his uncle were Democrats, right, and. 459 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: Some say Biden used to be there, right, Biden used 460 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: to be that way. 461 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: But the progressivism is its own religion. It's not really 462 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: a Democrat. In my head, I divide progressives from Democrats, 463 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: just like I divide ultra right wing guys from Republicans. 464 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: There's really four major parties. Now there's only two that 465 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: are officially organized, but the other two parties have an 466 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: outside effect on the debate. They are the debate, and 467 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: that's the progressive Democrats and the ultra right wing Republicans. 468 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: Well, he also made news for this bit of audio. 469 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: As we go back to the fact that he is 470 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: the nephew of John F. Kennedy and of course the 471 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: son of Robert Kennedy here, he was on the All 472 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: In podcast, and this is what he made news about. 473 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Do you believe they murdered or were involved in the 474 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: murder of your uncle? What have you come to personal? 475 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: CIA? 476 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 6: Yes, the only involved in the murder and the you 477 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 6: know and the sixty year cover up. They're still not 478 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: releasing the you know, the papers illegally they have to release. 479 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 6: But I don't think there's any doubt if you look 480 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 6: at this huge, you know, mountain, monumental mountain of evidence 481 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 6: and confessions, and you know, so many people have confess 482 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 6: to their involved men. 483 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: No, he's he's talking about the CIA. 484 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: He was citing a book by somebody named James Douglas, 485 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: JFK and the Unspeakable, who he says, compiled the most 486 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: evidence on the topic. Sixty year cover up, he says, 487 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: by the CIA. 488 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 489 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy Junior said, the first call that his father, 490 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy Senior, made after learning that JFK had been shot, 491 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: was to a CIA desk officer, and Kennedy Junior said, 492 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: my father said to him, did your people do this? 493 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: And his next call was to Enrique Reuise Williams, who 494 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: is one of the Huban Bea Piggs leaders who remained 495 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: very close to our family and to my father, that 496 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: was another CIA operation. My father asked him the same question. 497 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Then his father called John McCone, head of the CIA, 498 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: to come to the family's house. Was it our people 499 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: who did this to my brother? RFK Senior said, It 500 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: was my father's first instinct that the agency had killed 501 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: his brother. And of course some thought that the mob 502 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: killed JFK because Robert Kennedy as Attorney General was doing 503 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: an all out assault on the mafia back in the 504 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: early nineteen sixties. 505 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: You heard his. 506 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 3: Rare voice disorder on that clip. We've mentioned this before. 507 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: Some people's sounds like a goat spasmodic dysphonia involuntary movement 508 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: disorder called dystonia that affects only the voice box. Not 509 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: life threatening, but that's apparently his ailment, which is why, Hey, 510 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: aund's very weird when he speaks. Even listening to him there, 511 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: I'd reminded of that strange cadence and noise it comes out. 512 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: All right, We got more coming up. 513 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: Johnny ken K I am six forty live everywhere on 514 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 515 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 516 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 517 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: All right, coming up after two o'clock, Steve Gregory will 518 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: join us with the word on what the Border Patrol 519 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: is doing to prepare for the search of migrants. 520 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: Now the title forty too is scheduled to end coming 521 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: up on Thursday. Well, I was looking for one piece 522 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: of audio from yoga pants. Garcetti, of course is gone. 523 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: He's now the ambassador to India. They confirmed him in 524 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: a Senate vote back in March. He did one interview 525 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: and just thought this clip might be worth playing, just 526 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: to remind you of what we're so glad to have 527 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: gotten rid of the way that he tries to wax 528 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 3: poetic and make everything sound like he's some sort of 529 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: an author and he's painting this picture of the. 530 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: World and his role in it. 531 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: This was a spectrum News and here's what we got 532 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: for you. 533 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 7: I had this connection to India throughout my entire life, 534 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 7: and then suddenly when the President reached out, he said, 535 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 7: this is the most important relationship growing for the United 536 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 7: States in the world of any country. I personally felt 537 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 7: like it is the relationship that can counterbalance this very 538 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 7: chaotic and dangerous moment and then personally kind of felt 539 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 7: like something's telling you. The universe is saying, go go 540 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 7: do this as long as the family is good with that, 541 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 7: and checked in with my wife Amy, my daughter Maya next. 542 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 7: They're really excited, and my daughter in particular, if she 543 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 7: stayed here, she'd still be an elementary school in sixth grade. 544 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 7: She'll be a middle schooler there, so she couldn't be 545 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 7: more excited to be a middle schooler. The only person 546 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 7: who's ever looked forward to middle school. 547 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: Wonderful, Oh, how wonderful's First of all, this was probably 548 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, not even on the list. First he 549 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: thought he was going to be president. He thought he 550 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: was going to be in Biden's cabinet right. 551 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: A transportation secretary. 552 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: He's acting like all this ambassador thing. It was always 553 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 3: in the cards for me. It's fate and it worked 554 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: out wonderful. 555 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: Not at all. It's usually the kitty. 556 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: What's really going on is the opposite of what you're hearing. 557 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: He's probably very bitter. 558 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: He was bitter about the long year and a half 559 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: it took to get him confirmed, and this is not 560 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: the job he wanted to because this is basically goodbye. 561 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: You kind of manash in the thin air. You're at it. 562 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: That's probably the last we'll talk about him for years. 563 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: At he comes back and tries to do something else 564 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: in this country, the closest thing to deportation. 565 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: Yes, don't be surprised. If Feinstein, we should probably step aside. 566 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: But he decides to run for Senate next year, it 567 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: could happen out of nowhere. 568 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, this wasn't exactly his legacy. 569 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: This was left to us by the voters in order 570 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: to get more money, believe it or not, for homelessness. 571 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: They passed this mansion tax last year on the ballot 572 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: the city of Los Angeles. It was called Measure ULA, 573 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: a transfer tax. It levies a four percent charge on 574 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: all residential and commercial real estate sales in the city 575 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: above five million, and a five and a half percent 576 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: charge on sales that actually reach above ten million. Clearly, 577 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: this kind of real estate is not what most people 578 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: experience in terms of selling their home. But we knew 579 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: when we did a story a month ago that people 580 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: were preparing for this. There were a lot of sales 581 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: in April people wanted to offload their expensive properties before 582 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: the charge came effect. There were one hundred and twenty 583 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: six sales in April when this went into effect or 584 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: in March. Rather when this went into effect in April, 585 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: there were two. So yeah, you can see this has 586 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: had a profound impact on the real estate market. 587 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: On a high end, on a five million dollar sale, 588 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: that's two hundred thousand dollars. Two hundred thousand dollars that 589 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: these bastards are stealing from successful people to do what 590 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: with homelessness, to care homeless us. Yeah right, that that 591 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: disgusting sore of a money pit. That is the biggest 592 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: waste of money in all of government right now, the 593 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: homelessness spending. Oh, I can't stand these self righteous jackals up. Indeed, 594 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: more funding for homelessness. All these privileged people should do 595 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: their fair shares like f and you you are spending 596 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: the money on yourself. You're not helping hardly anybody. You're 597 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: so full of it. You're such a bunch of liars. 598 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: And I hate that the public reflexively votes for these taxes. Ah, 599 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: that's the wealthy, screw those people. 600 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: They can afford it. Oh god. 601 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: So, I mean the real estate market has slowed down 602 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: a bit too with the interest rates. There was one 603 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: home sold in Brentwood John for five point seven million, 604 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: and another in Venice for seven and a half million 605 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: dollars that raised five hundred and twenty eight thousan dollars 606 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: for affordable housing and homelessness prevention program. 607 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: Well, there's two shots at repealing this. This is a 608 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: court case, and then John Coupaul I think, and Howard 609 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: Jarvis Taxpayers Association is involved in the court case, and 610 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: also in a referendum, a statewide referendum that would that 611 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: would roll back certain taxes. All right, John Paul's measure, 612 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: John Coupaul's right, the one that's on the ballot next year, 613 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: that's right. If that actually passes, that could affect this. 614 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: And that's right, This would negate this, right, Yeah, I 615 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: would have retroactive capabilities to things that were passed within 616 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: the last year or two. So you know, either a 617 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: judge could find it unconstitutional or against the rules, or 618 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: John Coupaul's referendum could roll it back. 619 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: They thought that they I mean, this is the crap 620 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: they put out. 621 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: Well, based on the real estate market in twenty twenty 622 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: one to twenty twenty two, this could bring in nine 623 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars a year. All right, Well, in the 624 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: first month it brought in five hundred thousand. So it's 625 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: going to be well shorter that this trend continues where 626 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: people are just going to hold off selling. 627 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: Well from we see what happens with the challenge from 628 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty six to two. What does that 629 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: tell you? I mean, I mean sat several years worth 630 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: of home sales that were packed all into one month. 631 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everybody remember they were offering deals. They'd give 632 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: you a Lamborghini or something if you buy the. 633 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: House, so that they can just well, yeah, because they 634 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: sail in there before this tax comes out two hundred 635 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollars for just. 636 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: Five million, and then I and then obviously the higher 637 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: you go up the uh, the scale, the more tax 638 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: money it costs. I mean, it could be many hundred 639 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: thousands of dollars, and you know what, it's all going 640 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: to be wasted. Why do people keep voting for taxes 641 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: that they know we're going to be wasted. There's nobody 642 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: who can make a credible argument that any of this 643 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: tax money is going for good homeless policy. It's all 644 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: a racket, it's all thievery. These are criminals, This is 645 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: a criminal operation. They're running all right. 646 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll be talking to Steve Gregory 647 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: from CAFI News about what the Border Patrol is doing 648 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: to get ready for what may be a mass of 649 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: migrants as title forty two expires on Thursday. Johnny Ken 650 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: Show I AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 651 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, remark live in the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. 652 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 653 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six 654 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 655 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.