WEBVTT - TALES FROM THE TRAIL

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<v Speaker 1>All from Ivy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hey are you ghek?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Ivy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice to meet what's hey? Nice to meet you too, man.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing much?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for Thanksgiving? Are you excited for Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, it's a little bit depressing, but like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care that much about holidays. I like, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you this. I like seasons. I don't care about days.

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<v Speaker 3>Days are stupid, but seasons are nice. And I enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>November and December. I enjoy Christmas lights. I enjoy the

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween season, you know. I mean with the holiday season

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<v Speaker 3>is October to December. There's not really any other like

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<v Speaker 3>holidays outside of that time. And there's Valentine's Day and

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth of July. I guess, But you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why. As I get older, holidays matter to

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<v Speaker 3>me less and less. I think they'll continue to not

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<v Speaker 3>matter until I have kids, if I ever have kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you kind of like, yeah, then I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like at that point, you you like vicariously relieve the

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<v Speaker 3>magic of the holidays through them. But until then, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't care about you know, It's like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know I am. I'm thinking. I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to sound cool right now. What's up with you? Ivy?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you?

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<v Speaker 3>What's talk about?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Fuck it? Why are you excited for for Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you like about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for food. But I called you specifically because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to tell you about my time on the

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<v Speaker 2>appalach Trail and how you specifically pushed me through it.

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<v Speaker 3>I get the fuck out of here. I was in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I hiked the Appalation Trail.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I hiked not the whole thing, maybe like thirty

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<v Speaker 3>miles when I was in seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 6>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hike the whole thing either. I hiked about

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and sixty miles of it. But you

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<v Speaker 2>you helped me a lot. Because I don't have I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have Spotify Premium, but I do have Spotify and

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<v Speaker 2>they let you download podcast. I was like out in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the wilderness and like the only my

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<v Speaker 2>only company for a huge period of time, which just

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<v Speaker 2>you and the wacky people who's on your street. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was it was, it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was nice. It was nice, like because I had never

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<v Speaker 2>like listened to you before, and I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>out on like a wind was like, yeah, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>download this guy's stream. And I don't know, I loved it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was I was just calling to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about some experiences I had out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask you this. So you went, if

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<v Speaker 3>I was the only if I was your only friend

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<v Speaker 3>on the road, who was Uh? Were you just by yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just by myself. I graduated high school like

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks. It wasn't too long.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool. Cool, Yeah, let's hear some stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, you know, the Appalation Trail is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most heavily traveled like like trails in the entire world. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But there's like huge long periods of time where you

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<v Speaker 2>will see no one in like certain sections. And for

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<v Speaker 2>a long period of time. There was this man who

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<v Speaker 2>I was with and I would camp with him for

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<v Speaker 2>like a couple just for a week or so, and

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<v Speaker 2>that guy like as more I got to know him,

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<v Speaker 2>like the crazier he got. So whenever we first meet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just like, hey, what kind of fear

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<v Speaker 2>do you have? You know, why are you out here?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like my dad died recently. I'm just hiking the

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<v Speaker 2>trail because I want to get, you know, closer to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, that's cool, that's cool. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. You know, everyone's out here for their

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<v Speaker 2>own reasons. Some people they quit their jobs and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just gone. But then, like, as I'm talking to this

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<v Speaker 2>dude more and we're like sitting, you know, at night,

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<v Speaker 2>we're like cooking up our dinner and what like, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just like he's like, yeah, I'm like, I'm I'm high

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I'm like, oh, sweets, you got like wheat

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, no, I'm high on mushrooms. Man, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been high on mushrooms for two weeks straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I'm like, oh, I mean, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's it's you're nice in nature, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have any responsibilities. I'm like, I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, are you just gonna like eventually stop

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<v Speaker 2>doing mushroom? And he's like, no, no, because I quit

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<v Speaker 2>my job. And he starts telling me about this really

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<v Speaker 2>sad backstory. He's like he he was like sales guy,

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<v Speaker 2>big sales guy, and he was really top of his

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<v Speaker 2>company and whatnot. He almost gets hit by a car.

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<v Speaker 2>His first thought after that is like, I wish I died.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that he's like, I can't do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to Mexico on a drug retreat. And

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<v Speaker 2>when he's in Mexic to go on a drug retreat

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<v Speaker 2>taking mushrooms down there, his dad dies. So he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm just got done with this crazy

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<v Speaker 2>drug retreat in Mexico. I'm gonna go on the Appalachian

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<v Speaker 2>Trail and I'm going to do mushrooms the.

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<v Speaker 3>Entire time, and yeah, go ahead, keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I was just like, okay, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough, everyone has their hobbies. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna like be mad

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<v Speaker 2>at the guy for doing mushrooms. But like I had

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<v Speaker 2>this weird encounter with them, like later that night, because

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<v Speaker 2>I went to go use the bathroom and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>late at night and I'm walking off into the woods

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<v Speaker 2>and I look back and the dudes just like standing

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<v Speaker 2>up and just staring off in the woods. I'm like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the problem. It's just like there's something out there

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all he said to me. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean there's something out there? He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything else. He's just like there's something out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I get back in my in my tent

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like I'm trying to go back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>But like that like had voice and he's like how

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<v Speaker 2>he was looking and just everything. I'm just like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see anything. I didn't hear anything. But what if

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<v Speaker 2>he was what if he was running?

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<v Speaker 6>If what if it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A skin walker? What if he saw a skin walker

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<v Speaker 2>and I just didn't see it because I'm not on

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<v Speaker 2>that same frequency as the skin.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, pause for a second. What is a skin walker?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Native American like legends of like the appellations, like the

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<v Speaker 2>skin walkers are like the spirits that live in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had like bad ebgb's.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw like the blair Witch.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe I don't know, maybe he was seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the blair Witch, but I didn't see the blair Witch.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was gonna say, you're saying that this guy

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<v Speaker 3>who's been taking mushrooms for two weeks is hallucinating.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean probably, I mean I know, I'm thinking way

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<v Speaker 2>too much about this, but I don't know. It just

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<v Speaker 2>it just kept me up for a while because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that there was I thought there was something out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's kind of terrifying what happened in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets up really really early and he's just gone,

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<v Speaker 2>like he I think he just hyped ahead of me

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<v Speaker 2>and just kept going and I didn't. I never eventually

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<v Speaker 2>caught up to him. That It was like the last

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<v Speaker 2>time I ever saw him was bad night. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>he knew he left. So I mean, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>like he was like in like late thirties, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, and did he and he just he was just

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<v Speaker 3>like at the sales company and he just got really

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<v Speaker 3>fucking depressed from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, man, Yeah, I mean it happened. It happens

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people, people with their jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>then they just walk on the trail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, Well I think about I think about

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff because like, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can, why would you not exactly go on

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<v Speaker 3>a little adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I loved it, you know, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I had like Lord of the Rings as like an audiobook,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was listening to that bitch, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fucking trodeo.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so, did you encounter any other folks on the trail?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I did. A lot of them weren't as

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<v Speaker 2>crazy as him. Actually, they're really really nice. I met

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<v Speaker 2>this This is like his mother out there and she

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<v Speaker 2>just retired and you know, her kids are about to graduate.

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<v Speaker 2>Me in her bonding because I had just graduated, and

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up going. We ended up walking for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the time. I actually almost walked the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the trail the rest of the time of the

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<v Speaker 2>trail with her. And she was super super nice. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>she you know, she was talking about going to Van Live,

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<v Speaker 2>she was talking about her job. She gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like resources for when I go into college.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was really really nice. But she also carried

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<v Speaker 2>like a whole wine bottle on her like all times,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would take it like a nightcap every single

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<v Speaker 2>every single night, just just a glass of wine. Super cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you meet like a guy who just like

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<v Speaker 3>is high all the time, and then you meet like

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<v Speaker 3>you just meet a new person who's always on a

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<v Speaker 3>new drug life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, effectively like you you learned a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of life lessons out there. I learned I learned from

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<v Speaker 2>this other dude. His name was Achilles. That was trail name.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, that's he?

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<v Speaker 5>What bro?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your Did people really have trail names?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about the trail people have trail names? Trail names?

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<v Speaker 3>Was your trail name?

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<v Speaker 2>My trail name was old school because all of my

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<v Speaker 2>camping gear was old as ship. I was like rocking

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<v Speaker 2>ship from the nineties, old school.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to ask, yeah, the trail name. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like trail names are similar to nicknames, where you can't

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<v Speaker 3>really give yourself your oh yeah, trail name you have.

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<v Speaker 2>You can never go into your trail name.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't have a story of you who gave

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<v Speaker 3>you your trail name?

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, would you believe it? If? If this this

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<v Speaker 2>guy was not on drugs, but he was recovering from drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was out there about like this fifty year

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<v Speaker 2>old dude, and we hiked for like, you know, about

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<v Speaker 2>solid two hours together and he was just out there

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<v Speaker 2>day hiking and we talked for a long time. He

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<v Speaker 2>talked about going to Miami when he was younger and

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<v Speaker 2>getting mess up on drugs. Eventually getting off of drugs

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<v Speaker 2>is getting into real estate, right, and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>love nature. It's how I got off of this. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was really pushing me through it because he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>as I was talking to him, he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have an old school way of doing things. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just out here. You're not trying to push yourself

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<v Speaker 2>for any goals. You're just trying to be out here

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<v Speaker 2>in nature, you know, all your years old. No, And

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<v Speaker 2>he was just like and he's just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and just was like keep going, man, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was really really appreciated that. And I was like

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<v Speaker 2>a day later, I'm sitting on the side of the road, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because like the trail, the Afflation trail goes like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>through roads, right, And I'm sitting on the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road taking a break, and I see a truck

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<v Speaker 2>pull up and that dude hopped out and he was

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<v Speaker 2>he said he was talking to me. He was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about me to his wife, and his wife made him

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<v Speaker 2>go back out to give me money and food. He

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<v Speaker 2>ended up giving me forty dollars and like six granola bars,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also gave me a phone number and with

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<v Speaker 2>like tell me how far you get but I also

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<v Speaker 2>have a trail name for you. It's old school because

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<v Speaker 2>you have an old school way of doing things.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool because yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, I mean, I don't know, it's it's like crazy

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<v Speaker 2>as like the applation trail can be. It's really peaceful

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<v Speaker 2>up there because you know, you can just you wake

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<v Speaker 2>up right and you just can look out in the sunset,

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<v Speaker 2>see the mountains and see just like the animals and

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<v Speaker 2>see just like in nature, and you're like, this is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was out here a lot more. And

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<v Speaker 2>it made me realize that I wanted to get a

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<v Speaker 2>job in nature.

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<v Speaker 3>So that brings me to what I wanted. What I

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<v Speaker 3>want to know from you now is now that you

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<v Speaker 3>uh and how so you you did this right out

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<v Speaker 3>of high school? Yeah, okay, and so that's uh, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a smart move, man, that's a smart move because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like like, right when you're eighteen and you

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<v Speaker 3>graduate high school and maybe if you got a little

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to go to college, then that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>If you got maybe you take a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>time after that to go and fuck around, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that's a cheap that's a fairly cheap endeavor

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<v Speaker 3>super keep, is it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Especially especially if you have like family that already has

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<v Speaker 2>camping here. And just like because my grandfather he already

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<v Speaker 2>had camping year from when he was younger, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just gave me his old stuff. So, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>trip and it only ended up cost me like four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars. Most of most of that was just food

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<v Speaker 2>and just water purification, not much else. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to spend much money on else. I had, like I

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<v Speaker 2>had ten I had bags, I had you know, a knife,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had ever, I had, you know, a stove.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I had also spend someone gas you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like you know, gas canisters. But I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was a really really cheap vacation right out of high school.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really appreciate time out there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. That's a good Uh. I like that, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a smart that's a smart smart move

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<v Speaker 3>to do something like that right after school. Mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you? What are you gonna do now?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in I'm in college. I'm trying for I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going on in biology. I'm like a biology major

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on ecology. I want to get like a minimum wage,

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<v Speaker 2>like a federal minimum wage jobs out in the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, work on trying to protect it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I want I want, I want people

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<v Speaker 2>of further generations to be able to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>the apple that flash it and just enjoy it and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully not get haunted by evil spirits.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, God damn uh you know that's cool because

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<v Speaker 4>like what I like about this journey is that I

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<v Speaker 4>think the idea of going on a crazy adventure for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people seems like, uh, you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>has to be I don't know, man, like going to

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<v Speaker 4>Europe or doing some crazy fancy explosion thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is like a really neat and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>efficient way of like putting yourself out there meeting new people,

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<v Speaker 3>having experiences. Because you'll remember this when you're dying, you know, you'll, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>this time is spent so and you meet like.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people, so many people in the world go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I met tons of people from Germany and England,

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<v Speaker 2>and I even met a dude from like Japan. I

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<v Speaker 2>only had like a small conversation with him, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was still out there. There's plenty of people that

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<v Speaker 2>loved being out there and I feel like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's out there, people are are kinder, and it

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<v Speaker 2>really like enlightened my Like it really made me feel

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<v Speaker 2>for other people again, because at that point, like I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I was senior year of high school. I was really

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<v Speaker 2>really said, really depressed. I was lonely. And once I

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<v Speaker 2>went out there, people were nice to meet, people talk

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<v Speaker 2>to me, people would give me food. So many people

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<v Speaker 2>just gave me granola bars. I ended up getting the

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<v Speaker 2>point after that trail where I had to stop eating

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<v Speaker 2>granola bars because I was so tired of granola bars.

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<v Speaker 3>You must have had diarrhea plenty of times. What's that

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<v Speaker 3>like when you eat so many of those fucking five

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<v Speaker 3>er one bars and you have the diarrhea on the

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods. It sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like you have to dig, Like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to dig the hole you should in, right, and it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be six it's be six inches deep, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to like walk far off the trail so

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<v Speaker 2>no one like runs into it. You'll make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in.

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<v Speaker 3>Near water, right, what if you have diarrhea?

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<v Speaker 2>So I actually did have diarrhea trail. I had eaten

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<v Speaker 2>a bad freeze dried pasta mix, and uh, it was

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<v Speaker 2>not fun because every single like an hour or so,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to run off of trail and dig fiercely,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm digging as quick as I can in the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking dirt to squat down and take a ship and

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<v Speaker 2>ever it's painful. It was so painful. It was unbelievably.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the worst experiences I've ever had is having

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<v Speaker 2>diarrhea on trail and bad diarrhea that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, a good thing is A good thing is

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<v Speaker 2>is I've packed an entire role with toilet paper, but

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<v Speaker 2>it took a little bit of cardboard out so I

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<v Speaker 2>can make it s push down. So I never ran

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<v Speaker 2>out of toilet paper. And that was a blessing.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, dude, what's your name again, Ivy, Ivy, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the that's your real name, not your trail name.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's it's it's a name I like going by.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not my trail member. My trail name's old school old.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me let's take a couple of questions from the chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Does the chat of any questions?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course? Of course I like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Thanks for telling me about this. I find it

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting. I always I like thinking about stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>cool adventures, and I always think, I mean, everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>different things that are important to them, but like you know, adventures, experiences,

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<v Speaker 3>meeting people, that's very important to me. And I think that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I like hearing about your experience. I like

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<v Speaker 3>caring about how cheap it is because I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully it like inspires other people to want to do

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, even if they feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something like that is outside of their their reach. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how was the hike back?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>So I hiked from the beginning in Georgia, also through

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<v Speaker 2>the Approach Trail and into North Carolina to the NFC.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't drive. I didn't, I was my grandfather

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<v Speaker 2>picked me up because there was no way I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to hike one hundred and sixty miles back to

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<v Speaker 2>where I was going.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'd see. Let's see if let me say one question,

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<v Speaker 3>what would you say, is the absolute strangest thing that

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<v Speaker 3>you encountered? Is it? Did you encounter anything stranger than that?

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<v Speaker 3>Guys seeing skin walkers? I?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not really. There was bears. I never saw a

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<v Speaker 2>bear in person, but I saw a lot of bear poop.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would hear about this bear because there's this

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen mile section in North Carolina on standing Indian mountains

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<v Speaker 2>right where there was this big bear and they called

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<v Speaker 2>him Omar because he's a big bear. Like, are you

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with the wire? You know Omar from the wire? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Omar like he was. He fucked a lot of shit up,

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<v Speaker 2>He stole a lot of shit. And this bear, in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>he was smart. And he would go to these campers

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<v Speaker 2>who would like have their food stored improperly, and he

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<v Speaker 2>would just eat their shit like he was eating everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And normally with bears in their poop you see seeds, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know they eat fruit and stuff nothing nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>you see plastic wrappers. And he would ship on trail

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that made me very very like conscious

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<v Speaker 2>of having safe like putting your food safely away. This

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<v Speaker 2>is very very important if anyone is going out in

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<v Speaker 2>the wilderness, especially in bear territory, make sure to hang

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<v Speaker 2>your food.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, throughout history, bears have been portrayed to us

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<v Speaker 3>as as gentle folks. There's the bear in the Big

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<v Speaker 3>Blue House. There's brother Bear. There's what's his name, Yogi Bear.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I mean, I was gonna see how long

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<v Speaker 3>I can name bears for.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh that said, I only know four bears. Go ahead, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know what? Yo be the bear he stole

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<v Speaker 2>picnic bass.

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<v Speaker 3>But he never killed people.

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<v Speaker 2>He never killed people. And bears don't normally kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least black bears. Black bears, which are

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<v Speaker 2>normally a lot on the applation trails, they don't kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as long as you're not messing with their

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not messing with the like a mother's cubs,

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<v Speaker 2>you're fine. As long as you hang your fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Real quick somebody real quick, as somebody in the chat

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<v Speaker 3>said Scooby doo. But I don't think he's a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's I think he's a dog maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean think, is there anything else you want to

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<v Speaker 3>say to the people of the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you want to do something in your life,

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<v Speaker 2>make steps to that goal. Because the appalation trail, I

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<v Speaker 2>had planned that for months, and I had gotten help

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<v Speaker 2>from the internet for my grandfather, from my mother. You

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you, you talk to other people. You build slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I wasn't just like, oh, I'm going on at

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<v Speaker 2>the trail, like right after graduation. I've been playing it

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<v Speaker 2>for months. I was working up and saving it money

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<v Speaker 2>for it. I was getting every single bit of food.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting everything I needed. So the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do is it's a slow process. It's an annoying process.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you get there and you're standing on top

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<v Speaker 2>of a mountain and you see the Eagles and the

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<v Speaker 2>Hawks circle below you, you realize it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for calling Ivy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you and have a wonderful Thanksgiving, even though

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<v Speaker 2>you're not big on holidays.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you know what. Thank you for that. You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>You have a wonderful Thanksgiving too. I'm you know what

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<v Speaker 3>you've inspired me. If you've you've inspired the people of

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<v Speaker 3>the who are listening. So I want to take a

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<v Speaker 3>step towards a thing they want to do in life.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've inspired me to spend at least sixty more

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<v Speaker 3>seconds after this phone call trying to think of different bears.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, best of luck to you on those that bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember cocaine bear. That's another start.

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<v Speaker 3>And start me off on a good one. Thank you, Avy,

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<v Speaker 3>Best of luck to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, Best of luck to you too, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye, I liked that call. That was a was a

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<v Speaker 3>cool guy. Just just real quick. Uh uh, there's the bear.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm cheating a little bit. I just googled bears.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the bear from Open Season. He's a bear. There's

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<v Speaker 3>the bear from Brickleberry. There's kung Fu Panda. That's that

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<v Speaker 3>counts Panda bears norm from the North. That's a good bear.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Paddington Bear? How do not forget Paddington Bear? Oh

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<v Speaker 3>the country bear, Jamboree? Any other bears? I think? Why

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<v Speaker 3>is Huckleberry hound on here? That's what people. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the second time somebody's confused a dog for a bear.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for calling Ivy we I'm gonna try to call

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<v Speaker 3>this guy from Denmark.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have enough credit to make this call. Go

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<v Speaker 2>to voice settings and add credit to your Google Voice account.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait can I fucking do that? Hold on?

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<v Speaker 7>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on calling rate. Let me see how much it

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<v Speaker 3>costs to go to Denmark. All right? All right, so

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<v Speaker 3>in Denmark? All right, So if I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to Ethan for twenty minutes, it would cost all right,

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<v Speaker 3>it would cost about forty cents. Ah fuck, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on day If this works I'm gonna be stoked.

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<v Speaker 1>This call is being rounded by Google. The cost of

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<v Speaker 1>this call is too since per minute?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey gang, Hey, what's up man? How's it going?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, says here. Your name is Ethan. You are

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<v Speaker 3>from Denmark. For those who are for those who are

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<v Speaker 3>listening on the podcast, I just put ten dollars of

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<v Speaker 3>credit into Google Voice so I could make this call

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<v Speaker 3>to Ethan, and it's going to cost about two cents

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<v Speaker 3>per minute. I don't know why I included that information,

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<v Speaker 3>but I felt like it was important to know that

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<v Speaker 3>I am financially committed to talking to people from Denmark.

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<v Speaker 3>You said, hi, Ghak, my name is Ethan, I'm from

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<v Speaker 3>Denmark and I might be a psychopath. Is that accurate?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, what's what's going on? Ethan? Tell me? Tell me

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<v Speaker 3>what's up?

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<v Speaker 7>Well? You know, people say sometimes they don't think, like

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<v Speaker 7>they can't feel as much, you know, but I honestly

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<v Speaker 7>don't think I feel I hold you right, I'm twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>One, okay, and you feel like you don't feel.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like I don't have like sympathy for people. And

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<v Speaker 7>I heard like you were in a podcast unlike Spotify.

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<v Speaker 7>You were like watching some Brueto Brueto ship on, like

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<v Speaker 7>those leaking websites of.

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<v Speaker 6>People like dying. Yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just just don't feel anything. It's like sympathy

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<v Speaker 7>for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, let's okay, let's start deep, because I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's one thing you know people you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's start like, do you do your parents?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't. That's might be the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, do you have any friends?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I have like three, like friends.

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<v Speaker 3>How long you've been friends with your with your three friends.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd say like ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>You do you enjoy their company and friendship?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Like I have to like be with my friends

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<v Speaker 7>or or else I can't like function.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you not classify that as a feeling? Nne.

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes people have some feelings, but like it's just the

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<v Speaker 7>main feeling, like the family oriented, the the girl friends, boyfriends,

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<v Speaker 7>the vibing. I just I don't. I don't have anything

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<v Speaker 7>like that, you know, Like the only thing the only

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<v Speaker 7>thing like making me when I wake up is like

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<v Speaker 7>like just nicotine, beer and my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look those three things. That sounds pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't beat yourself up? That too bad? But

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<v Speaker 3>m do you have a job? Yeah, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, I'm driving, like so, I just listened to

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<v Speaker 7>your like podcast on podcast on there spite High pretty

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<v Speaker 7>much like I'm alone, but I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I guess what I mean. Look, obviously, being like

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<v Speaker 3>addicted to alcohol and cigarettes is not great. But I

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<v Speaker 3>guess what I'm what I'm curious about is I'm gonna Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make an observation after having talked to you

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<v Speaker 3>for only four minutes. But it's a gut feeling that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having right now. And it's a normal thing and

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<v Speaker 3>I do it too, and I think everyone does it.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you like comparing yourself to some fantasy version of

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<v Speaker 3>yourself that doesn't exist? That's like, you know, married with

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<v Speaker 3>a family, and you know is about like saving the

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<v Speaker 3>dogs and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Mm yeah, I think I like, I want to have

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<v Speaker 7>a family like that. I do family, house, dog, kid's wife.

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<v Speaker 7>But I just just I just don't have the feelings

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<v Speaker 7>like the what do you say capacity to like do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I I.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing you've told me so far indicates to me that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have feelings.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, of course you have some feelings, but there's just

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<v Speaker 7>like I think I am, I'm like missing key feelings

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<v Speaker 7>for like having a a life like a normal person.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your idea of a normal person?

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<v Speaker 7>M m hmm, Like just like a random nine to

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<v Speaker 7>five job and just a normal family, house, talk, wife, kids, everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I have a few thoughts about this stuff. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Well, I think you're pretty young, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>for you know a wife and children and a dog.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but I'm like that whole life. Like four years,

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<v Speaker 7>I've been trying to like have a stable relationship, but

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's just boring and I I just end up

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<v Speaker 7>don't caring about them or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Why is that so? How many? How many times?

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<v Speaker 8>Mm hmm?

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<v Speaker 3>How many times have you been in a relationship that

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<v Speaker 3>failed because you just realized you didn't care that much

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<v Speaker 3>about the other person?

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<v Speaker 7>Four? I think?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, where'd you meet these people? Tell me? Tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>give me, give me the most recent person. Tell me

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<v Speaker 3>about your most recent relationship, how it went down, how

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<v Speaker 3>you met them? Who they are?

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<v Speaker 7>Wo went to like just what you would like to

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<v Speaker 7>make us high school meetting class just hung out like

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<v Speaker 7>to of course, in the study was just like a

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<v Speaker 7>like you she hit.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, but then you meet again and again.

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<v Speaker 7>And again and it just end up like catching feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, so you you you caught feelings?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I guess, but it's I don't if that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if it's feelings. Well, if it's just

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<v Speaker 7>the need of like having someone to like like a

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<v Speaker 7>comfort in life.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe that's what I'm missing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is when you say, like, I mean catching feelings, is

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<v Speaker 3>it like is it like a pure lust thing or

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<v Speaker 3>is it just a pure like I need a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>to check off the checklist of of of life.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's more of like who else I'm I

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<v Speaker 6>gonna like.

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<v Speaker 8>Say, just all the random things too, someone I can

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<v Speaker 8>when I feel like lonely, it can just be there.

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<v Speaker 7>Mhm. And it's like a safety thing, I think. M h.

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<v Speaker 3>These all sound like I okay, if we could take

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<v Speaker 3>a step back for like what's your name again? Either,

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<v Speaker 3>if we could take a step back for like a second, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just you you you texted me you started off this

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<v Speaker 3>phone call by saying that you were a psychopath.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's like the feelings, I'm not like, like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the TV psychopaths killing like Patrick Bateman.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's any ways you can be a psychopaths

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<v Speaker 7>like psychopath.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I just don't. I just and again, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've only been talking to you for ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just I don't know if you need to

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<v Speaker 3>be walking I just I don't think that because you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had a successful relationship by the age of two.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think because you haven't had a successful relationship

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<v Speaker 3>and the kids and a dog by the age of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one, that you got to be walking around with

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<v Speaker 3>this like belief that you are a psychopath. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a little strong.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not just like the girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and tell me about something that has something to

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<v Speaker 3>do with that that you think makes you a psychopath.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, since I have like no parents like I had

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<v Speaker 7>like these, but you could like categorize as like a

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<v Speaker 7>step step family. Yeah, and they already have had kids,

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<v Speaker 7>like they have two kids, and they were all, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>every Friday night, they were like having fun, playing some

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<v Speaker 7>card games or whatever, and I was just never there.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just I just didn't care like that they

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<v Speaker 7>were they were I don't know, tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>About what you're god, you know, go ahead, keep going.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but I just don't know where you know, they

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<v Speaker 7>had they had a healthy relationship with each other, and

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, never there.

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<v Speaker 6>I just didn't care. I was out late.

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<v Speaker 7>Night, it just walking. It's just I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 7>missing some key feelings in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what about your friends? Like you you said to me,

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<v Speaker 3>you said to me, you said, I one of the

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<v Speaker 3>like if I couldn't be around my friends, I couldn't function.

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<v Speaker 3>So you you're not like a complete You're not like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sitting at home microwaving hamsters all day. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you you hang out with people who are your.

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<v Speaker 6>Friends just friends. I don't know, whatelse what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I get.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm thinking about this because I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 3>had similar feelings before of like looking at the world

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<v Speaker 3>around me and like looking at you know, quote normal

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<v Speaker 3>people and being like, I don't feel a strong you know,

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<v Speaker 3>comparing myself to other people and and their relationships and

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<v Speaker 3>how they live their life, and thinking about myself like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>why is that not appealing to me? There must be

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<v Speaker 3>something wrong with me. But I I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>that makes you necessarily a psychopath. Again, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a strong I know it's I know it's I know that,

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's your face favorite word. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>love that word. But I think it's strong.

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<v Speaker 7>They've used it, like.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't categorize myself as a psychopath, So I just

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what it's like else to call it like.

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<v Speaker 6>The odd one out.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have but but you have friends. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>I guess like not every person is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>appealing to you to hang out with, Not every social

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 3>situation is going to be appealing to you. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not like I'm social awkward or anything like I'm

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<v Speaker 7>right open, right, But I think it's it might just

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<v Speaker 7>be fake.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what do you mean fake?

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<v Speaker 7>Like I'm not open, I'm very like I'm shy, and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't talk as much when there is people I

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<v Speaker 7>do because I want to like seem like like normal,

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<v Speaker 7>normal teenager. I like I'm trying to be someone I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not right because.

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<v Speaker 3>You haven't there, because because you have this idea, you

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<v Speaker 3>keep bringing it up of a normal part of a

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<v Speaker 3>normal human being, and I'm not, by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not fucking I'm not bullshitting you, right, I've had that

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<v Speaker 3>same thoughts about myself, like when like I've been there before.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had like, oh, there's a like normal human being

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<v Speaker 3>who like wants to, you know, do these things or

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<v Speaker 3>hang out with these people or do these things. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I have in my head of like what a normal

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<v Speaker 3>human beit fucking being is, And throughout my life been like, oh,

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 3>why do I not feel like a normal person? But

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<v Speaker 3>you're just I don't. The more of like gotten older

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<v Speaker 3>and like reflected on that, the more I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there is a normal human being. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that there is like some standard of a

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<v Speaker 3>way to live life that we all must align ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>with or else we are evil and wrong and psychopathic.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that it takes it takes a little

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<v Speaker 3>while to truly internalize that, but I I think you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta dispel that belief because it's not it's based on nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just funny. I mean to put it simply,

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 3>it's just comparing yourself to other people, which is like

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<v Speaker 3>the number one the way to hate yourself all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>But everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>Ha's like met like opened up to say the same thing,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's just not working.

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<v Speaker 6>And everybody, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you hold on? What everyone you've opened up to

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<v Speaker 3>about this says the same thing? What do they say?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they say what I just said?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, they just say to like talk to like therapy,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 7>real real therapy.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you should do that too. That's that's a

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 3>good idea, guy.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 7>But I honestly like just a podcast helps more than

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:52.439
<v Speaker 7>like the real real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 7>But it's it's it's everyone has it says like go

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 7>to therapy, and I've been there, but just doesn't do anything.

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 3>What do they tell you in therapy?

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<v Speaker 6>That's the thing.

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 7>I don't think I get anything out of it.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 3>What did they tell you about that?

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 7>Mm hmm? Like they tell me, they'll tell me it's

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 7>like important to like like speak when I feel.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 6>Instead of keeping it.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 3>In, you know, But I just don't to speak when

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 3>you feel.

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So like when I feel when I feel something,

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 7>I have to like show it, express it. I don't know,

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 7>crying or something.

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I can see why that'd be helpful, yeah for sure.

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 6>But it's I just can't. I don't know.

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 7>I know, last time I cried. It was in February

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 7>two thousand and m So it's like I'm a clocked

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 7>or something. Mm hmm.

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I think continuing the Cereal Therapist is good,

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.399
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know, Man, If you get anything out

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 3>of this conversation, I hope it's just the understanding that

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like there's no I mean, you can really fuck you

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>can just really fuck yourself a lot by holding yourself

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to imaginary benchmarks of normalcy that are established by no

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 3>particularly compelling authority.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're you're you're the only authority on your

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 3>own life and your own benchmarks and not And that's

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.720
<v Speaker 3>and that's that's, by the way, that fucking sacred. Okay,

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 3>that's like that, that's like the thing that you get

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 3>to have as a that's like your birthright as a

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 3>human being, is that you get to set the own

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 3>benchmarks for your life of how you want to be

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 3>and exist in the world. Never give that up, ever,

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 3>to some idea of normalcy. Okay, but I.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 6>Just think I want the normal thing.

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Well then then then go then then then what's the problem.

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know that.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean just like I'm not there. I'm just I'm

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 7>just not ready for anything, and I don't think I'm

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 7>going to be ready ever for like having anything to

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 7>do with a real relationship, because it just gets boiling,

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 7>even even though I'm very attached.

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, if it gets well, if it gets boring, then

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 3>why do you want it?

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, that's what I'm saying. I think it's

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 7>a safety thing I need to feel. I just I

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 7>think I like the feeling when people need me like

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 7>some some sort of like power, like I have the

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 7>power over someone.

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's a terrible reason to get into a relationship.

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know.

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Uh Ethan Ethan Ethan. By the way, Denmark has the

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>best fucking seven elevens in the whole world. There's this

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 3>honey chicken. Do you live near a seven eleven?

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I just went in this to see bro.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 3>The seven elevens in Denmark are awesome. They have this

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 3>like honey chicken skewer thing. They have this like meat

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:58.919
<v Speaker 3>pie sausage thing with ketchup. It's so good.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:01.720
<v Speaker 6>When have you been to Denmark?

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean I've been to Denmark twice. Do you live

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 3>in Copenhagen?

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 7>No, I live in like like the complete outher side.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 6>It's umble, it's up up, all down. I don't know.

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 3>See if I, if I, if I lived in Denmark,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 3>whenever I got the pressed, I would just go to

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 3>seven eleven and just binge would be sick. It's boring, Ethan.

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 3>I look, first of all, I hope you got some

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 3>semblance of something out of this phone call.

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 7>But of course.

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Don't. Don't. Don't be so fast to write yourself off,

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't. I don't think that's I don't

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 3>think it's logical for you to do that.

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I might not might not be healthy.

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 3>people of the computer before we go?

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 7>Ye would just take care and it's it's been a

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 7>honor talking.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 3>To hey man, it's a bit of honor talking to

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 3>you too. I still, I still think it's crazy to

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 3>me that like people in Denmark, people in like a

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 3>random place in Denmark are listening to my stupid Gecko podcast.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I think that's sick. So you know, it's an honor

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 3>to talk to you too.

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh, they have many you have many listeners and Spotify,

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 7>don't you.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 6>Way more?

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 7>Yes?

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess well, I did a show in Denmark. I

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you were there Copenhagen. Sounds like it's

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 3>far from you, but yeah, cool. So thanks for listening

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 3>to my stupid thing. And I hope that you stop

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 3>thinking you're a psychopath.

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah I don't. I don't know what to think, but

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 6>thank you. Thank you for your time.

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Take care of Ethan, you too, I think that. Well,

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 3>actually i'll say this, I'll say this too, and this

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 3>is I didn't. I didn't. I didn't touch on anything

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 3>cultural in that phone call. But every where I went

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 3>in Scandinavia. I did a tour of doing my live

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 3>show in Europe this summer, and everywhere I went in

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Scandinavia before I did my show, somebody told me. They

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 3>were like, don't be surprised if nobody laughs or talks

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 3>or says anything, because the people in Scandinavia are known

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 3>for having no emotions. So I don't know. Maybe it's

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 3>a cultural thing, but but I guess, I guess comparing

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 3>yourself to other people, I guess that's a universal thing,

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 3>or comparing yourself to like some standard of normalcy. You

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 3>know what else is funny on this podcast is like

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm always telling people to do every every time, I

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 3>just I want to make this clear so that people

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think that I'm awesome all the time. Like anytime

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 3>I you know, am like saying these things to people,

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm really I really just feel like I'm reinforcing them

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to myself, you know. I mean, I'm over here, I'm like,

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 3>why don't I Why do I have this weird life?

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Why do I have to, like, you know, go do

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of weird stuff with my life instead of

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:20.959
<v Speaker 3>just like having a normal, you know, existence. But that's

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 3>not there's no I meant what I said. I don't

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.760
<v Speaker 3>think that there's some imaginary fucking benchmark of how life

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 3>should be lived. And I do. I do think that's

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:35.760
<v Speaker 3>a sacred thing. And I do think that the honey

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 3>chicken from seven to eleven is the best food in

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 3>all of Europe. Hey guys, it's Lyle here. I'm about

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<v Speaker 5>Oh shit, Hello, Hello, how are you?

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing all right? How are you?

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 5>Honestly I don't know for even some friendships. And my

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 5>main text message or the text message, the text message

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 5>I sent you was about my lawsuit. So I guess

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:48.879
<v Speaker 5>I'll talk about that.

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I'm nervous, No, no worries. What says here that

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 3>your name is Kylie and you are quote in a

0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 3>stupid lawsuit situation over quote a dumb ass hat. What

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 3>do you do you mean a dumb ass hat or

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 3>a dumb ass hat.

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 5>Uh, it's a work hat. To be specific, I have

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 5>a medical condition. It's an auto amine disorder called chronic earthticaria.

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 5>So I'm allergic to my sweat and like a lot

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 5>of parts of myself, which really sucks. So anyway, I

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 5>was working at our local university here, and anyway, I

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 5>was there for six years, and uh, this one lady

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 5>ended up getting promoted, and I actually did a lot

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 5>of her dishes because I was a dishwasher. So anyway,

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 5>she got promoted, and so I hadn't been wearing a hat. Sorry,

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 5>it's hard to explain. I hadn't been wearing a hat

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 5>for like a year or so. Plenty of managers and

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 5>other employees were also not wearing hats, so like it

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 5>was never an issue. And so when this woman got promoted,

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 5>she noticed I wasn't wearing a hat and brought me

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 5>up to HR. And anyway, they asked me to get

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.959
<v Speaker 5>a doctor's note basically stating that I couldn't wear a hat,

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 5>and I got it. I got that doctor's note. In

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 5>that doctor's note got me fired.

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry if you said this already, But can

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I ask where where do you work? What is this place?

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.320
<v Speaker 5>It was the Universe or at the university? Sorry I

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 5>should have specified it's called campus dining. I won't say

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 5>where exactly.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, when you say when you say a hat,

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 3>do you mean like when you because you said campus dining.

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 3>This isn't something where like you're working with food and

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 3>you need like a hair tie, right, This is just

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:55.240
<v Speaker 3>like a cosmetic hat.

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 5>Uh, it's it's a uniform hat. Yeah, chat saying yeah,

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 5>So I basically denied. I denied putting the hat on

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 5>basically because you know, for like a year or so here,

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.280
<v Speaker 5>I am thinking it's okay to not wear a hat,

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, and there's there's many managers and employees who

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 5>are working alongside me, you know, serving the students' food

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 5>and all that, and so anyway, A it's really funny.

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Hr they gave me unrealistic options. They I don't know,

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 5>like one option was straight aus like fifty miles away

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 5>from me, so that would mean I would have to

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, move away. So I don't know. It's just

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 5>it's a really stupid situation. And my court date is

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 5>what three three weeks from now, and I'm confused.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm I'm confused. For a second, are you suing

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 3>them or are they suing you?

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh? No, I'm suing them because essentially I was fired

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:14.800
<v Speaker 5>over a medical condition. Again, they asked me. They asked

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 5>me for a doctor's note, and I got them that note,

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 5>and they are trying to say that I quit, but

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 5>in reality, they put me against you know, a hard place,

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 5>or you know, a rock between a rock and a

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 5>hard place essentially, So I don't know. I don't know.

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you think you're gonna win this lawsuit? Have you

0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 3>talked to your Does your lawyer think you're gonna win?

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 5>He thinks I have a pretty good case, which is

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 5>reassuring to a degree. I don't know.

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I've never on the I'll say this on the bright side,

0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 3>your you, I assume would are going to win if

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 3>if your lawyer's right, and you do have a good case,

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I assume that you're going to uh procure much more

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 3>money than you would have procured had they had they.

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:19.359
<v Speaker 5>Not fired you, right, right, Yeah, And my lawyer and

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 5>I we've we've done a lot of the calculations. Again,

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:27.919
<v Speaker 5>it's been about two years, and I've lost uh I'm

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 5>not too sure how many thousands of dollars, but yeah,

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 5>maybe thirty to forty thousand dollars so far.

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 3>So okay, that's another thing. I was going to ask you,

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>how much money in legal fee you're you're spending like

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.839
<v Speaker 3>forty thousand dollars at legal fees over the past two

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.800
<v Speaker 3>years to sue this, to sue this company.

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, no, no, I didn't mean that, Sorry, I

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 5>just mean, like the the amount of money that I've

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<v Speaker 5>lost from losing that job.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, damages. Yeah, that's that's forty thousand dollars over

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<v Speaker 3>the course how many years, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost been two years almost, so it's probably gone

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<v Speaker 5>up by now. But yeah, and my lawyer was about

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<v Speaker 5>one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so I let me ask you that this

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<v Speaker 3>happened two years ago, what have you been doing in

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<v Speaker 3>the meantime?

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So, so since they fired me, they tried to

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<v Speaker 5>make it sound like I quit, So I was denied

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 5>my unemployment for six seven months. So I was working

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<v Speaker 5>with my dad mostly just trying to get by. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still trying to pay off my invisil line, which

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.319
<v Speaker 5>is hard. So it was hard trying to keep up

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:53.479
<v Speaker 5>with that though. And uh so anyway, earlier this year,

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 5>I plied at a grocery store. So that's about it,

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get by.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious just and like, so this thing makes you

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<v Speaker 3>allergic to your own sweats.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, It's it's stupid. And what made me what got

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<v Speaker 5>my attention was I started breaking out in hives in

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 5>the shower from the heat. So I think it's like, uh,

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, there's there's something in the sweat. Supposedly

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:34.400
<v Speaker 5>it's a it's like a protein. Not entirely sure, but

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<v Speaker 5>I never had this growing up. It kind of came about,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, six or seven years ago after a

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:45.720
<v Speaker 5>super stressful situation. So I think it's genetic. And uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess mostly women get it. I'm sure men.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you? Are there any other like so like you

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<v Speaker 3>you see it? You're you said you're allergic to other

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 3>like parts of your body.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I'm allergic to my not I'm allergic to

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<v Speaker 5>my bit. I'm allergic to my tears.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you're allergic to How does that? Like when? How

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 3>do the allergies manifest themselves? Like do you just swell

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<v Speaker 3>up when you cry?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>My eyes just get really itchy, like my whole face.

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 5>Actually it goes away though, Like it's mostly just discomfort,

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 5>Like it's not life threatening or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 5>that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking kicking the ass that like something happens to make

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 3>you sad and then you're you get double you get

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>double sad.

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<v Speaker 5>No exactly, It's like, come on now, I don't want

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 5>to be like ope, shit, yeah, at least.

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 3>The at least I hope I hope in those moments

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>that the physical pain takes away from the emotional pain.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 3>That's the you know, last half full way of looking

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 3>at it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, So it's just been really stressful. Like I

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:58.960
<v Speaker 5>actually gained like fifty fifty pounds because of the stress.

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 5>And I think that it's also because of the anti

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 5>de press that I'm on as well though, So, but stress,

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 5>stress is so bad for us, Like just seeing how

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:13.440
<v Speaker 5>it's affected me, I don't know, it's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>How how far do you think you are from settling

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 3>your lawsuit?

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, our court date is November fifteenth, so fingers crossed

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 5>that the jury is on my side.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna whip up some tears?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I hope not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a see that's a double edged sword too.

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that you can't you know, you can't use your

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 3>tears to compel a jury in a fourth case?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's sucks sing allergic to your own fucking tears, dude,

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 5>It's it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's your name again?

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 6>It's Kylie?

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 5>Like Kylie?

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, Kylie? Before we go? Is anything I feel like

0:58:57.920 --> 0:58:59.760
<v Speaker 3>we've only talked about the pressing things. I do want

0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 3>to know if anything good is going on in your life.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. I appreciate that. And right back

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 5>at you. I'm a DJ. I just try to work

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<v Speaker 5>on music and I don't know, I'm just trying to

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 5>win this lawsuit and just yeah, just trying to focus

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 5>on the good and mostly just music.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a great deal of respect for you

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 3>being a DJ, because I feel as though a nightclub

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 3>is a terrible place for a person allergic to their

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 3>own sweat to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me about it, suck.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you got you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to attach some some fans to your deck.

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no kidding, I explain, need to invest in one

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 5>of those like neck fans that you see people at

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 5>festivals during.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like that's cool, that's cool. I'm just glad. I'm

0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 3>glad this lawsuit's not like, uh, you know, in all

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 3>encompassing every thought that you have in your brain and

1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 3>you're actually exerting some time and energy to a thing

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<v Speaker 3>that's exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, It's it's hard, man. Yeah, I guess just trying

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<v Speaker 5>to be mindful and meditation is good because the more

1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:22.600
<v Speaker 5>we the more I ruminate. I can tell like even

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 5>my my skin symptoms start to act up. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>like I have to kind of not let stress take

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<v Speaker 5>over me.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you playing any gigs anytime soon?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 7>Not, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a couple of gigs actually here at our

1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 5>local beach. But yeah, I think I've had quite a

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:44.960
<v Speaker 5>few in the last months. So I need a break.

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<v Speaker 3>If you win your core, if you win your court case,

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<v Speaker 3>you can have a little you can throw a little

1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:51.960
<v Speaker 3>party exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's my goal. I actually really want to be

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<v Speaker 5>I mean some people think it's silly, but I really

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<v Speaker 5>want to be a promoter. Like the town I'm in,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't really have a good music scene like we do.

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<v Speaker 3>But what sound is it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Like the music scene A lot of it's just tech house.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, that what what what's what town?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Sam Luis Obispo.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know what you just said. So the

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<v Speaker 3>tracks that we don't have a good music scene there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a it's right in between San Francisco and the way.

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<v Speaker 3>That you just said it. Actually that sounded kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like a DJ beat. Santa Benevis is Yeah, Santa nas

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<v Speaker 3>is gay?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's your nick? Kylie?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Kylie? Is anything else gonna say to the people of

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<v Speaker 3>the computer before we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Big up love you guys. I don't know, yeah, big

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<v Speaker 5>up chat gak blessed.

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<v Speaker 3>I will I will manifest you winning this lawsuit. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I don't know if I'm one for manifestation,

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<v Speaker 3>but god, I'll try anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you never know, you never know. Oh, take care, Kyley,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>I had always collected skulls, like I always loved animal skulls.

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<v Speaker 1>I have deer skulls and big cool elk antlers and

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<v Speaker 1>graduated to human skulls.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever think about the human that is behind

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<v Speaker 1>I do, Actually, I think about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to say. I have one that is a

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<v Speaker 1>cap So I think that one was an adolescent or

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<v Speaker 4>Goes on the line, calls every night, Everything goes to

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<v Speaker 4>his hide. He's teaching new houses of your life, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's not really an expert.