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Speaker 1: Hello friends, and welcome into betting pros. It is the

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Speaker 1: college Football early line look ahead for Week ten. Double digis.

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Speaker 1: We are in the double digits? Oh my god, how

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Speaker 1: did we get here? I have got the dynamic duo

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Speaker 1: with me. Thorn n iceram on Twitter at thor ku,

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Speaker 1: Eric Froton at cf Froton. I am Chris Welsh. We

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Speaker 1: can find on Twitter at is it the Welsh. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be going through everything that Week ten's got,

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Speaker 1: and it's got some good stuff. We've got games, We've

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Speaker 1: got lines, adjustments, we got all the stuff. We got

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Speaker 1: CDs and DVDs. We got everything for you. But first up, Thor,

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Speaker 1: how did week nine treat you? Didn't treat me so great?

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Speaker 1: Need I need to go hard this week? Thor? I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to go hard.

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Speaker 2: Kansas upset Oklahoma beat him for the first time since

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember when. So it was a great

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Speaker 2: weekend in the n iceroom house. The celebrations were a plenty.

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Speaker 2: I don't really care what happens in the NFL. I

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Speaker 2: didn't really care what happened the rest of the college

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Speaker 2: football on Saturday. That made my day and I got

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Speaker 2: to enjoy it even longer because they had that lightning

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Speaker 2: delay in the middle of it. You know, It's just

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Speaker 2: I was just sitting back, big smile on my face

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Speaker 2: that the game played out like you wanted it to

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Speaker 2: as a Kansas fan, and they came back from the

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Speaker 2: weather delay and they were still looking great in that game.

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Speaker 3: We're able to close it out.

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Speaker 2: So all in all, a good weekend, and now we're

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Speaker 2: heading into Halloween week. Maxtion is back and those things

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Speaker 2: and everything, So looking forward to another week college football.

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Speaker 1: Girton, we missed you last week, but how did Week

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Speaker 1: nine treat you?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I apologize. I was actually at Washington at Arizona

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Speaker 4: State last week, and this week I was at UCLA

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Speaker 4: hosting Colorado at the Rose Pool, where I got to

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Speaker 4: see the UCLA defensive line absolutely overrun a decrepit Colorado

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Speaker 4: offensive line and just I think they had seven sacks

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Speaker 4: against the doors Sanders. He had to take a apparently

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Speaker 4: a pain shot some at some point in halftime, maybe

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Speaker 4: sometime during the game in order to even continue to perform.

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Speaker 4: He got hit so many times. So a couple of

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Speaker 4: great games got to see this week, and hit my

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Speaker 4: best bet for the six week in a row on

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Speaker 4: the College Football Player Props front started eight to o

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Speaker 4: in the early slate, even out sort of towards the end,

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Speaker 4: but still ended up over that sixties percent threshold. So

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Speaker 4: another good week on the college props.

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Speaker 1: Say you were at Arizona State, I was at Washington.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, how it was in Washington? I sailgated, Well,

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Speaker 4: I was going to pick on you for that.

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Speaker 1: I was going to pick on you. Wa wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to come say hi to me. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to like come over. I'm totally fair, I said,

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Speaker 1: I said, Washington's okay. I just thought you were talking.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I was very disappointed about it. That's okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get into it. Let's get into the action.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of games, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of good stuff here early lines time to take advantage

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Speaker 1: of it. That's why we do this show, getting it

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Speaker 1: out as early as we possibly can, to see if

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Speaker 1: we can take advantage of some of what's going to

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Speaker 1: go over the next couple of days, and obviously throughout

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Speaker 1: the week we will cover in a lot of other fronts.

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Speaker 1: So let's jump into the very first game we have

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Speaker 1: got Kansas State six and two, four and one in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Going up against Texas is seven and one,

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Speaker 1: four and one on the Big twelve. Lions moving around,

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Speaker 1: I see minus five and a half on Texas four.

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Speaker 1: You've got an adjusted line that shows a little bit

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Speaker 1: of value. Is it value that you want to bet

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Speaker 1: where's you're playing Kansas State versus Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my line on this game is Texas minus four

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Speaker 2: point one. I do think that there's a little bit

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Speaker 2: So this is going to be interesting. And can Kansas

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Speaker 1: All right, I see a little bit of line movement

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Speaker 1: that you've already identified. Forton they got backup quarterbacks and Texas.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where in the line movement has actually gone.

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Speaker 4: So this actually opened a FanDuel at seven even, and

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Speaker 4: then we've seen it tick down six and a half

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Speaker 4: headed right in that four to four and a half range.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty clear indicator. You should try

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Speaker 4: a lot of that has to do with Frankly, Kansas

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Speaker 4: they're really hitting their stride in terms of the second

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Speaker 4: He was everybody's darling. He's you know, the reason why

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Speaker 4: So what is that passing attacking to look like? Against this?

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Speaker 4: Kansastate defense has been snuffing out opposing offenses. That's why

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Speaker 1: Is there a bet that y'all love outside of do

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Speaker 1: you like any total? I mean, you were leaning towards

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I like the under fifty and a half. I

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Speaker 1: Half forty eight, Okay, perfect, Ohio State is going up

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Speaker 1: likes a little bit more from Ohio State. So do

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Speaker 1: you want to slam this line early on? While it's

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Speaker 1: I mean not that it crosses any key factor. I

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Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, the you don't often see the

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Speaker 3: But that's sort of what we're getting here.

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Speaker 2: Might spread on this game is Ohio State minus twenty,

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Speaker 2: but Rutgers is coming in off the buy Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, they've had some tough games recently,

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Speaker 3: They got healthier, if.

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Speaker 2: Nothing else, and they didn't cover, but it was by

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean most people that bought tickets during

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Speaker 3: So you lost that one by half a point. But

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Speaker 3: they got back at book.

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Speaker 2: Burke has been back, they got back Henderson, who ran

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Speaker 2: very well in that game. I would have a slight

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Speaker 2: They run the ball while including with their quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: their whole deal is to try to keep the scores close.

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Speaker 2: So getting you know, at home and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: I can see why there's a little bit of respect

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Speaker 1: All right, Froton, is there something that you would want

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Speaker 1: the value that's a pretty big line with Rutgers at home.

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Speaker 4: I do. I have a lot of respect for Rutgers,

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Speaker 4: just as a program with Greg Ghiano's done in terms

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Speaker 4: Their defensive line coming in the season was expected to

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Speaker 4: be good. I think they've even outperformed those pretty lofty

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Speaker 4: but they play slow. You know, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: is kind of fits alongside Ohio State. I don't think

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Speaker 4: I think they're going to be able to score on

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Speaker 4: slow them down a little bit. I'm waiting to see

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Speaker 4: what the under ends up looking like, because as much

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Speaker 4: looking at what their team total looks like. As Thora mentioned,

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Speaker 4: you have a fully operational death Star Ohio State going on.

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Speaker 4: I kind of look at the under Their d has

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Speaker 1: All right, third game up here, this is a morning

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Speaker 1: slate that we're talking about. We got Texas A and

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Speaker 1: M who is five and three. They're three and two

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Speaker 1: seven and one when loss came out of the SEC.

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Speaker 1: They are four and one. I'm gonna set something up

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Speaker 1: to ask you on this as well. Thorpe the line

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Speaker 1: I've got around three and a half. Your system is

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Speaker 1: around four point two. But something that we noticed before

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Speaker 1: this game, and it's kind of been ticking in that

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Speaker 1: Does it surprise you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're definitely seeing the tightening and and and more

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Speaker 2: And I think that's fair objectively fair. With with this

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Speaker 2: Both these teams were playing really really bad opponents last week.

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Speaker 2: You would have liked to have seen him beat South

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Speaker 2: played with their food there for a little bit. Max Johnson,

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Speaker 3: It's the gift that keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that Max was gonna get there, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, I had higher hopes for Max Johnson, Uh,

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Speaker 2: But it's like you have two things going on where

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Speaker 3: And so those two things.

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Speaker 2: The thing you're concerned about in a scenario there is

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Speaker 2: down by ten, they're down by fourteen, how is that

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Speaker 2: So this would be a pass for me early in

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Speaker 1: Is there any value for you? Do you like anything?

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Speaker 1: Whether it is a sides the totals early on weight

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Speaker 4: I love Jackson Dart. I've had a ton of his

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Speaker 4: over the course of this offseason. I just felt like

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Speaker 4: doesn't fit Max Johnson, who I've gotten to watch enough

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Speaker 3: He's just hitting them on short like the litt old.

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Speaker 4: Slants crosses that he can't throw to the boundary. It's

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Speaker 4: it's infuriating watching him trying to work. I don't believe

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously tech Sam's defense has been great, really

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Speaker 1: Let's get to more. Afternoon, ea Slate, We've got Missouri

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my line being Georgia. Mine is fourteen point nine,

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Speaker 2: Not sure that that is worth two points Missouri is

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: It seems like we got some line inflation here just

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Speaker 2: But like I said, that's one to wait on until

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Speaker 1: Proton, are you leading on Missouri here with those numbers?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna wait it out? Do you like Georgia?

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Speaker 4: My best bet for non player props this week was

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Speaker 4: put up, you know, over two touchdowns. I cerely feel

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Speaker 4: four of them. I have Carson Beck and every single

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Speaker 4: I have been the Mike Bobo changeover to offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: I think three straight weeks has gone over three hundred

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Speaker 1: By the way, for time, don't you get that shirt

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Speaker 1: out for us a little bit. Let's see that shirt

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Speaker 1: for a second, says play college fantasy football.

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Speaker 3: That's right, It's the sport.

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Speaker 4: Of champions everyone. You want to be better at anything

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Speaker 2: Jim Kelly, tell me you were wearing that on the

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Speaker 2: sidelines of UCLA card That's correct.

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Speaker 4: I might have filmed the video at the end of

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Speaker 4: USC Colorado from midfield with the teams in the background

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Speaker 2: Coach Prime texted me and he said he wants one

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Speaker 3: He told me to let you know.

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Speaker 4: I saw a t on the sideline, said what's up,

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Speaker 4: oh college fantasy okay.

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Speaker 1: You're like, hey, let's get it going, like.

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Speaker 4: Can you got a selfie? And he was on the phone.

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Speaker 4: He got a phone call before I get it.

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Speaker 3: We'll get him in the fifty team or.

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Speaker 1: Next year, and all of our friends, Scott Buggen would

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Speaker 1: be very happy about that. I will also say I

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Speaker 1: it was probably the best prepared I'd been playing Dynasty

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Speaker 1: So just a shout out to to that and that shirt.

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Speaker 4: I just seman is pulling you in. I like it.

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Speaker 4: Great work, but getting.

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Speaker 1: Involved Welsh years and years. He just can't get me

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Speaker 1: back in right now. There's too much going on, all right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: more betting to do. We've got Penn State seven and one,

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Speaker 1: it's in Maryland. The adjusted line for it's not that

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about this game? What stands

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, first, before you hit on that one, I was

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Speaker 3: So they Yeah, I mean like people for sport, I mean, well,

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Speaker 3: this is what I do for sport.

438
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 2: It's just you know, you sit and you watch the

439
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 2: people with the heavy hammers in the market just annihilate

440
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: these lines one way or the other.

441
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: The college football lines.

442
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 2: You see line movement on Sundays unlike anything you've ever

443
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: seen before. So it's just like crazy to watch it

444
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: in real time.

445
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: May probably make a great live stream show to just

446
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: be saying, it's like news anchors were like breaking new

447
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's just just going, going, going.

448
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: Going, Yeah, because you'll see moves of a point or

449
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: more across the book, you know, in a in a

450
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 2: snap where you would not see that during the week,

451
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: but you see it on Sundays all the time.

452
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

453
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: The Penn State Maryland game, both these teams did not

454
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: look good yesterday. They they both looked disinterested, Maryland particularly so.

455
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: But uh, Penn State, they many they almost got caught

456
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: with their pants down in that one. They came off

457
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 2: their their disappointing loss, and they they did not appear

458
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: to take Indiana seriously whatsoever. I made the joke late

459
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: in that game on Twitter that someone should tell James

460
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: Franklin that they're not playing Ohio State or Michigan, they

461
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: were playing Indiana, And uh yeah, they almost suffered their

462
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 2: own upset, which, of course Maryland was was suffering their

463
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: own embarrassing upset.

464
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: So this will be.

465
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: Interesting to see which of these two teams gets off

466
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: the mat My line on this game Penn State at

467
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: Maryland and is Penn State minus nine point nine. So

468
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: I am showing a bit of you know, a point

469
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: aligne value or so on the home team in Maryland.

470
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, you would have to have some shuts. But

471
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 2: to bet that one early in the week after you know,

472
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: yesterday we watched Maryland with the performance that they had.

473
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: But then on the other hand, you have to lay

474
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: double digits with Penn State on the road going to

475
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Maryland and what should be a bounce back spot for Maryland.

476
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: This is one where I don't really trust you these

477
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: teams right right now, So this is gonna be a

478
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: stay away early in the week for me.

479
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: Froton. What do you trust and what do you trust

480
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: out of this game? If anything?

481
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: Man, you look at Maryland right and first five games

482
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 4: did they ever feast on the lower divisions of college football?

483
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 4: Thousand Charlotte, Virginia, Michigan State, and Indiana which doesn't look

484
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 4: so bad, and I mean rolls right through them, and

485
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: then Ohio State comes in and handles them, I mean

486
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: just slaps them around. They go and Donk went off

487
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: to Illinois. They had a sixty five percent win expectancy

488
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: and then they just get handled. And I watched a

489
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: good portion of that game against Northwestern yesterday by Maryland.

490
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: They were getting handled by Northwest. That was a brutal showing,

491
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: playing from behind the whole game. Couldn't really run the

492
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: ball to any extent at all. Roman Hemby, who almost

493
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: had who had like thirteen hundred total yards last year.

494
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: He has just become completely phased out and got pushed

495
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 4: around on the line like how do you how do

496
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: you really go in and say, oh, yeah, you know this,

497
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: this Maryland team coming off three losses is going to be,

498
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, any kind of a threat. That being said, obviously,

499
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: Penn State coming off the loss to Ohio State and

500
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: you expect them to bounce back, and they just went

501
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 4: and laid an egg against Indiana. Very well could have

502
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: lost to Indiana. It's tough to back a one. I though,

503
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: because I am I am selfish. I will be at

504
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 4: on the sidelines for Michigan at Penn State in two weeks,

505
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: so this is like my week off. I want to

506
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: see Penn State have a good showing head into that

507
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: Michigan game, all right, because right now the look ahead

508
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 4: line to Penn State Michigan on Fandel is only seven,

509
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: and that looks like a pounds town session for Michigan,

510
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: even on the road right now against this Penn State team.

511
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 4: So if there's a recommendation, I would say, take a look.

512
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: Lay the touchdown right now with Michigan. If Penn State

513
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: doesn't look good against Maryland, it's it's probably you know,

514
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: ten and a half eleven, but who knows what it

515
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: looks like. Even if they go and squeak it out,

516
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: you're still gonna get some CLV. So give me. That's

517
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 4: that's my call, Pence, Michigan lay seven.

518
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Oklahoma versus Oklahoma State seven

519
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: to one versus six and two, and we got key

520
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: marker range. We've got six and a half on Oklahoma

521
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: right now, and I see the used four line at eight,

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: So we are right if you can get it at

523
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: six and a half, because I think there may be

524
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: some sevens as well, or what do you think? Do

525
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: you want to slap that at six and a half

526
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: right now?

527
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a Bilo spot on Oklahoma

528
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: for sure.

529
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: And I watched.

530
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: You know, obviously I was alluding to it at the

531
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: start of the show. Big, big Kansas fan. Everybody knows that.

532
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: I you know, I watched. I watched every snap of

533
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: that that game. And and and Oklahoma did not look

534
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: good in that game. Realize that. And Oklahoma State has

535
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: looked great recently. And I'm a certified holder of over

536
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: six and a half Oklahoma State regular season win total

537
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: ticket from uh the preseason. So you know, I'm I'm

538
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: down with the Pokes, but I think we've gone a

539
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: little too far with it.

540
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

541
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: You know, They've they've beaten some bad teams, the last

542
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: one being Cincinnati. I just think qualitatively here, this this

543
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: one's a little bit beneath its import where it should be.

544
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State is gonna have a hard time putting the

545
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: clamps on Oklahoma's offense.

546
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: The last game.

547
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: You know, Gabriel played way down. I found it really

548
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: interesting that, despite the fact that Kansas had a lead

549
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: for most of that game, that Oklahoma was not throwing

550
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: the ball a ton. You know, A part of that

551
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: was circumstantial, but a part of it they were choosing.

552
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: They didn't attempt to pass as often as they generally do,

553
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: and the elements of that game, for sure, they were

554
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: in play right, like you had the delay with the

555
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: lightning and all that, and it was raining. But typically

556
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: the thing that is deleterious to the total it's the win.

557
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: And you didn't have the win at twenty miles per

558
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: hour or something that where you would have been like,

559
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: we need to take the ball out of Dylan Gabriel's hands.

560
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: To that degree, I think.

561
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: What maybe happened there and I don't know, you know,

562
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 2: like you don't know if the kid just woke up

563
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: sick like Bjon Robinson and they didn't tell anyone, or

564
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: you know what the you have to wonder if like

565
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about his size and stuff like that,

566
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: and the fact that you know he doesn't have a

567
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: strong arm whatnot. You wonder if it's a hand sized

568
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: thing and the grip on the ball was an issue

569
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: there and that's you know that that played a part.

570
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: The reason I go into that is it is almost

571
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: assuredly not going to be in Stillwater on Saturday, although

572
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: you know you can you can check the weather forecast

573
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: for Saturday two thirty pm and still Water. If you're

574
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: thinking about betting this, if you want to be for sure,

575
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: but Dylan Gabriel should be ready to go locked in.

576
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma needs this one obviously after the performance they just had,

577
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma State does not. Their defense is not profile

578
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: well to stop an offense like this. They haven't faced

579
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: one in a while. I could go through Oklahoma State's

580
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: entire schedule. But a part of the reason why I

581
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: love that the over win total on them, why I

582
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: thought people were sleeping on them in the preseason as

583
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: far as that went, is they had one of the

584
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: easiest schedules you'll ever see for a power fight team.

585
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: I'll just run through it right now, Central Arkansas, Arizona State,

586
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: South Alabama, Iowa State, and then it's yeah, and then

587
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: we're let's see then Kansas State and Kansas, West Virginia

588
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati would get us up to present, so you know,

589
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: and now we're gonna have Oklahoma, but.

590
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: Not exactly a murderers row there.

591
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: Kansas State and Kansas easily the two best offenses they face,

592
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: and the only two offenses that they have faced so

593
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: far that were inside the top forty eight sp plus.

594
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: They got Kansas face and Jason Bean. You know, it

595
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: wasn't Jaylen Daniels and Kansas State is not a high

596
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: octane passing team. This is the first high octane passing

597
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: attack that Oklahoma State is going to face. I think

598
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna get lit up Forton. What do you think

599
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: about this one that's a breakdown on thort side. Is

600
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: there anything that stands out as far as where these

601
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: lines have moved or anything that you want to take

602
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: advantage of?

603
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Thiller makes great points as always. I

604
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: would just say that to echo his sentiment on the

605
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel passing attempts. In each of his previous four

606
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: games that were big Twelve Conference games, he threw at

607
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: least thirty eight pass attempts. Last against Kansas nineteen half

608
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: exit more than half. It's a completely The reason why

609
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: is they ran the ball fifty five times, you know.

610
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: For even though they were downmost again, it was the

611
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: most bizarre thing to watch.

612
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Walker and get you know saw Chuck who my

613
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: boy Gavin Sawchuk is dad Kevin, good dude. But the

614
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: big big thing with Oklahoma in that game one turnovers.

615
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: It was a turnover fest. It was three turnovers on

616
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: each side. Oklahoma's were more impactful and then just not

617
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: being able to convert third downs two of ten on

618
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 4: third down for Oklahoma. I mean that's just brutal. That's

619
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: where Dylan Gabriel Heisman contender has to come over there

620
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: and say you and you know that that ain't where

621
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: that ain't what happened. That being said, Oklahoma State is

622
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: as soft a defense as you're gonna find. Frankly, I

623
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: mean they're out there getting lit up by West Virginia.

624
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: You know, no problem getting beat on by West Virginia.

625
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: Obviously Kansas had no problem scoring on them. They managed

626
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: to take out Cincinnati. But this is you know, this

627
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: is Oklahoma here. Now, I think in line with the

628
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: atl where he's at eight, I think it's probably even.

629
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: I think this edge is even closer to ten by

630
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: the time kick comes around, once the public really comes

631
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: around there like, oh, we could take Oklahoma in Bedlam.

632
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: So in honor of Bedlam. It was twelve years ago,

633
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: in twenty eleven, that was a T. Boon Pickens Stadium

634
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: where Brandon Whedon in Oklahoma State beat Oklahoma the first

635
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: time in eight years, I believe, And I was actually

636
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: one of the throng of people marching down the main

637
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: thoroughfare is the goalposts. So first ever goal post snapping

638
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: I've ever seen was that event, so uh near, Dear

639
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: to my heart, I'm gonna miss Bedlam. This is the

640
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: last one we're gonna get for at least a long time.

641
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: So uh, my sympathy is there, but I gotta go

642
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: with Oklahoma here. Sorry, hoax.

643
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: You should have been down at Potter Lake yesterday in Lawrence,

644
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: Kansas to drop that goal post in Potter Lake into

645
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: are sure those Sooners right out of the big twelve du.

646
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: That was a moss covered lake, a massive covered three

647
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: handled family or has been in Potter Lake before died?

648
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: Shove a goal post out there, you mark.

649
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Me and Geno was sending us out there every Saturday

650
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: my undergrad time.

651
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: Baby.

652
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's get to We got just a

653
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: couple more here on the main slate. Let's go over

654
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: to thor Kansas versus Iowa State six and two versus

655
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: five and three.

656
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: That's a professional segue.

657
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: And Iowa say thank you, Iowa State minus one. We

658
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: got a tiny bit of value out there. But what

659
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: is it? Talk to us store? What about this game here?

660
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Get you going?

661
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: All right?

662
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: My fellow Jayhawks out there, hit that you see the

663
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: thirty second thing where you can go for hit that

664
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: like four times. My fellow Jayhawks hit it four times

665
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, now that's that's everybody else. I think

666
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: I'd be leading, and I always say it in this game,

667
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: i or Kansas, they they come off this monumental win.

668
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: This is a deflation spot coming the week after. Now

669
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: you have to go to Ames, very tough place to

670
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: play in a bad matchup, and an Iowa Stay team,

671
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: by the way, that under the radar is playing awesome

672
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: right now. A Sunding is Sunding is sunning. We're talking

673
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: about that with Oklahoma State, a team in the Big

674
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: twelve to play different than I always say it, but

675
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 2: they're both on the same trajectory. They both have been

676
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: since like mid to late September. Both those teams have

677
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: just been rocketing up. This feels like a really good

678
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: spot for Ioways State to pick off a Kansas team

679
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: that that that is coming off this program defining win,

680
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: that defining win for Leopold. My line on this game

681
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: is Iowa State minus two point one. You know, it

682
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: is a game that that's that's close to the margins

683
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: and and close to a coin flip, but I wouldn't

684
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: bet it early just because I feel like coming off

685
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: that win, I feel like like I would project the

686
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: betting market in the public to beyond Kansas in this game,

687
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: I would assume. And so it's possible, you know, in

688
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: the way that I would, I would see it that

689
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Kansas will become a small.

690
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: Favorite early this week.

691
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: But I think the value is on Iowa State here

692
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: and again in a game where they match up well,

693
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: they're they're they look like a team that can ambush

694
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Kansas and a team that can do things defensively to

695
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: Kansas to muck up the things that Kansas likes to

696
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: do that Oklahoma's defense just didn't. I really love the

697
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: matchup of Kansas offense against Oklahoma's defense. Talked about it

698
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: all last week. This one's different. Iowa State plays, they're

699
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: from brander defense. I lean the Cyclones in this game.

700
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: This is really interesting, Like what what Thor is just

701
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: saying too, that this might be the possibility that as

702
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: the week progresses on, this line might move more in

703
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: favor if you're in Ohio State or an Iowa State better.

704
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: But is that something you're down with and something that

705
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: you want to do well, I.

706
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 5: Mean it is in Manhattan, you know, unfortunately thor So

707
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 5: it is on the road. But as he alluded to,

708
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: you know, this Iowa State team, despite the turmoil in

709
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 5: the off season and you're talking about Jilliams reading the sheet,

710
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: this Iowa State team has really overcome a lot of

711
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: adversity with the betting scandal, having their starting quarterback and

712
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: one of their starting running backs, I mean out and

713
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 5: coming in and doing what Matt Campbell does, which is

714
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: pitch a pretty damn good defense and not put up

715
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 5: a lot of bad games. You know, if you look

716
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: at their performance, the only stinkers they really put up

717
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: were against Iowa, you know, twenty seven percent win expectancy,

718
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: and that was that was a grimy game.

719
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: And as you know thor but and then Oklahoma you know,

720
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: so those are two you know, extremely stout defenses and

721
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 4: good teams. Otherwise, Oklahoma State handled them, TCU Cincinnati. We

722
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: saw what they just did to Baylor, like this is

723
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: a damn good defense. And they're ranked i mean, you know,

724
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: top twenty five in terms of overall defense, fourteenth and

725
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 4: EPA per play, twelfth in yards per pass. So I mean,

726
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: all things point towards Iowa State here, as Thor is

727
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: alluding to, I wouldn't feel comfortable taking Kansas because I

728
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: doubt we see Jayalen Daniels. It seems like he's almost

729
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: a forgotten man at this point. I'm with Thor, Lee and.

730
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Iowa State, Okay, Washington, PAC twelve Action, Washington and USC

731
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: USC who just will never close in thing that out.

732
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: They'll just never win dominantly anymore. They'll win by one

733
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: point ninety nine points are getting scored. Absurd garbage is

734
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: going on against a Washington team that looks like the

735
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: literal best yet Washington. They're going into USC. Of course

736
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: it's a four point favorite, and throw your system has

737
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: them even less of a favorite here, So talk to

738
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: talk me through this, because I was like, oh, USC

739
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: notre table US. I can't even imagine betting on USC

740
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: right now.

741
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Nor could I. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna advocate

742
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: for for a USC play.

743
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't.

744
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: It was hard for me to yank USC down further

745
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: in my power rankings.

746
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: I felt like I did enough to a realistic degree.

747
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: We'll see if I if I didn't, if I went

748
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, didn't go far enough but I I it's.

749
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: Hard for me to go further than than where I did.

750
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, I mean like as far as this one,

751
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: the other team, Washington last two weeks, they haven't looked

752
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: great yet, you know. I mean I realized in comparison

753
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: to USC, like USC, I was ready to just throw

754
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: them in the trash can.

755
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: That's why I look at your four line. Just look

756
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: at the four line publicly and your two line, and

757
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I? What am I missing? Outside

758
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: of Yeah, you're right, Washington has played down a little bit.

759
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: It just seems like USC has really been playing down

760
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: for sure.

761
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like people have figured that Washington

762
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: offense out a little bit or at least how to

763
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: get in. Pennix has had and uh and slow it

764
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: down a little bit. Alex Gringe he he he can't

765
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: get in anybody. He couldn't get into a paper bag,

766
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: human sized paper bag. Uh. There was a thing a

767
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: week or two ago where when when he was getting

768
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: let up by Bryce and Barnes and then in the

769
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: post his postgame comments, he was like he was like,

770
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: we didn't we didn't see that guy running around on film,

771
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: and it was like the game before he'd run for

772
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: all these you know, touchdowns or yards or whatever, and

773
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: like grin shd multiple things in the post. I can't

774
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: remember the exact comments up top I had, but he

775
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: said like multiple comments in that thing where they were

776
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't see this on you know, that

777
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: wasn't on tape where it was directly contradicted by the

778
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: game before. It was literally just the game before. And

779
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: so ken Alex Grinch inact any of the things from

780
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: the last two games. Does Alex Grinch watch tape? Do

781
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: they have VCRs or projectors in the the USC complex

782
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: and will have Alex Grinch access them and and sit

783
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: in front of them. That we don't know, But I

784
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: mean if he does there, you know, maybe maybe he

785
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: can access some of those different things. And then what

786
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: what's the effort going to be on on both these

787
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: different teams.

788
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: Washington certainly still has stuff.

789
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: To play for USC that has become debatable. At least

790
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 2: what you can say for USC is after they lost

791
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: their a couple of games and they were in that

792
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: spot where they could have quit against Cal and Cal

793
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: had that lead. I was just I think everyone watching

794
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: that thing when they've seen the score it's like, all right,

795
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: now it's time for for USC to just lay down

796
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: and die. And to us he's credit. They held on

797
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: and then there was that moment where at the end

798
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: I loved it. I love and nobody ever praises the

799
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: coach when he does the ballz thing and it doesn't work,

800
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: So let me do that now. I loved At the

801
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: end of that game, the Cal scores a touchdown, so

802
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: they're down by one. Justin Wilcox decides to go for two.

803
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: I love that, go for the win. That's what you

804
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: gotta do.

805
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: Now.

806
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: They it didn't work out, but that was the correct

807
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: decision there, but I expected it to, you know, to

808
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: be good, you know, just based on the way the

809
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: USC season is gone. But good on USC for hanging

810
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: in there. They get the win. What is your effort

811
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: going to be here that I'm not sure of. I

812
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: can't advocate for people to bet on USC in this spot.

813
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Croton, Will you advocate for USC? Will you dare advocate

814
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: for USC? And Washington here?

815
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: Well? You know, funny enough, thora and I had a

816
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: bet a friendly for a helmet, and that helmet that

817
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 4: I requested that I ended up winning was a USC helmet.

818
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: So I am in southern California. I am in San

819
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: Diego right now, and I am a USC guy. That

820
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: being said, I mean, I don't feel comfortable putting my

821
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: hard earned you know, fantasy betting pros bucks behind their

822
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 4: team performance. I bet on Cayleb Williams's over two hundred

823
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: and eighty four passing yards last game. Probably do it again,

824
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: but you know, for the overall team, I don't feel

825
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: comfortable USC. But at the same time, Washington, who I

826
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: got to see up close and personal from the sidelines

827
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: against Arizona State and which was a really listless performance

828
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: out of the Huskies. Credit to the Aztecs. Exive me,

829
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: the Astechs, the Sun Devils. I'm in San Diego, the

830
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: Sun Devils. They were pretty darn good in terms of defensively,

831
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: they couldn't you couldn't run on them. And even Pennix

832
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 4: the plays that he made, he had to make perfect

833
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: throws and ultimately the big, you know game, the big

834
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 4: play to win the game was a pick six that

835
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: put Washington ahead of Arizona State. So they do have

836
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: a pretty good pass defense. I mean, you have to

837
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: give that to the Huskies. Ranked fourteenth in terms of

838
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: overall team performance sixteenth with six yards per pass allowed.

839
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 4: That's excellent, but they can be run on at will. Essentially,

840
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: this has ticked from seventy one and a half, you know,

841
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: to seven excuse me open at seventy one and a

842
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: half is now it's seventy four and a half on

843
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 4: that team total should tell you all you really need

844
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: to know. Washington just had a barn burner against Stanford

845
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: USC Obviously breach shootouts. I don't think you can take

846
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: an under position on something it's seventy four and a half.

847
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: I think you still got to goal over even with

848
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: the three point adjustment. This is gonna be nuclear this game.

849
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't see how this game doesn't at

850
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: least tickle the thirty five to thirty five plus for

851
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 4: each team.

852
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: All right, final game up here, at least in our

853
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: big slate, we have got LSU, who is six and two,

854
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: four and one in the SEC, going up against Alabama

855
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: undefeated in the SEC, but seven and one, Alabama a

856
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite, and we've got over

857
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: at least one point of line value in Alabama's favor

858
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: for so, is Alabama your play for the week?

859
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably the first time all season. I don't remember it.

860
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, the the market is. You know, at

861
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season with LSU, everyone is out

862
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: on LSU. But then it's like every single week now it's.

863
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: Like warmer, warmer, warmer, And they may.

864
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: Have gone too far with it without like Elas, their

865
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: defense still stinks, it's still terrible, and mill Row in

866
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: those I mean, they're just gonna be able to run

867
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: circles around those guys. And the sieve alabam offensive line,

868
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: which is tested weekly, they're not gonna.

869
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: Be tested in this game.

870
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: Milroe finally is gonna have a game where he's not

871
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: under durest the entire time.

872
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: The ls U offense against the Alabama defense. That's gonna

873
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: be fun.

874
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, for for me in this one, my lean

875
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: would be Alabama l or it would be Alabama. But

876
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be a bet for me right this second.

877
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: I have to get my mind around betting on Alabama.

878
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: It's not so im I done yet this season, but uh,

879
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: we'll see if I can get there by the middle

880
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: of the Weekroton.

881
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Are you there? Are you there? Is your mindset to

882
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: bet some Alabama this week?

883
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: You know I've I've often been accused of being a

884
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 4: Alex Grinch type, you know, living in a stone cave,

885
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: stealing kids presence and being under liking the unders. I

886
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: mean that's grinch like behavior, mean.

887
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Being an under bonger.

888
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: I am, but hey, I mean to two overs in

889
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: a row, that is, can't deny here sixty and a

890
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 4: half on this total LSU. For all their foss defensively,

891
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: and there are many, I mean they're gonna be able

892
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: to score. I know Alabama obviously as an excell defense,

893
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: only allowing three hundred and six yards per game, but

894
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: LSU Jayden Daniels has looked incredible. I mean you can't

895
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: say enough about him. You got Neighbors, who's a first

896
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: round caliber wide. Oh, you got Brian Thomas, who's at

897
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: least vaulted himself into Day two consideration. On the other side,

898
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 4: Logan Diggs has really taken over, and you got a

899
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: really credible coach that wants this game. I mean, this

900
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: is LSU Alabama. I mean I like the over. I

901
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 4: think you get more than sixty and a half points here.

902
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty third EPA per play is LSU.

903
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 4: I mean, god, I think everything points to a very

904
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: competitive back and forth at the very least point rich contest.

905
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: All right, well, it might be some early plays in

906
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: there if you can wrap your head around some of

907
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: these bad boys final up here, any other extras that

908
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: we want to throw in. Froton, We'll start with you.

909
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: There was some early line movement. Let's do a rapid

910
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: fire of some of the games that caught your attention,

911
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: and then thor if you do or don't, it's all

912
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: good if you have any others that you wanted to tackle.

913
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: Like we said, the system is a lot closer this week.

914
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: But if there's anything else you really like early on,

915
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: let us know. But Froton on the quick burners here,

916
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: what line movement has you going?

917
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: Tech's TCU at Texas Tech? All right, it opened up

918
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: at minus three and a half Texas Tech, who's at

919
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 4: home down to two and a half. But the big

920
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: movement was on the total fifty six and a half

921
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: open is ticked up to the fifty nine and a half.

922
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 4: And that's with a couple of defenses that have just

923
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: proved that they're not so great. So you know, you

924
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 4: got to make sure you're keeping an eye on that.

925
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: That's ticking up Wake Forest at Duke. This is a

926
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: game I love and you know, frankly, I can't believe

927
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: this opened at seven and a half, believe it or not,

928
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: is actually now up to twelve and a half minus

929
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 4: twelve and a half. Duke. Listen, Duke's at home. If

930
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 4: you've watched Wake Forest at all this season, you know

931
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 4: there isn't much of any anything this team does well.

932
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: Mitch Griffiths is has prison to be completely ineffective in

933
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: his bid to take over for Sam Hartman. And they've

934
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: even played Santino Marucci, who dave class and the head

935
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: coach said is only really they're working with about thirty

936
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: percent of the playbook with Marucci under center. That is

937
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: not going to fly against Mike Elco, former Texas A

938
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: and M defensive coordinator, defensive guru for Duke. Yeah, has

939
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: Riley Wonder been banged up and it's hurt them absolutely.

940
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: It'll beat a few years, a few weeks off of

941
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: that ankle injury, and even so they're gonna be able

942
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: to run the ball against a porous wake Forest front.

943
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: There's a reason why that ticked up. I think he

944
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: probably edges up to fourteen around game time BC at Syracuse. Gosh,

945
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: the Syracuse team it is got mauled last week by

946
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech and in front of everybody, I mean everybody,

947
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: their friends and family on national television on a Thursday

948
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: night game. Just a brutal performance by Syrahcuse. However, BC

949
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 4: Thomas Castaos, their UCF transfer quarterback injured. All right, Emmett

950
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: moorehead our friend Thor finished out the game. He is

951
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 4: a far cry from Castianos. Is a real awesome dual threat.

952
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: I think that's a real issue, and that's why you've

953
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: seen this actually tick. Syracuse amazingly opened minus four and

954
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: a half down to minus three, even with BC having

955
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: QB problems with a potentially you know, hampered Thomas Castianos,

956
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: it's still ticked away from Syracuse. That tells you all

957
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: you need to know about the Orange and they're in

958
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: the Carrier Dome. This is a bad team, that being

959
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: said a couple quick ones. Jacksonville State RSUs South Carolina

960
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: that open, yeah, yeah, South Carolina. Rough turns out South

961
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: Carolina when they're not getting Michigan giving him the signs

962
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: apparently against Tennessee like they're like the four Chan rumors

963
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: are giving us. They haven't been too effective when they

964
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: don't know what the other team's running. That has gone

965
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: from fifty seven and a half to atal to fifty

966
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 4: four and a half. Opened at sixteen and a half minus,

967
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 4: and now it's minus fourteen and a half heading towards

968
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: Jacksonville State. That hells you pretty much we need to know. Lastly,

969
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 4: Michigan State at Nebraska opened up in a service Academy

970
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: esque thirty eight and a half points. Is down, is

971
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: down three points to thirty five and a half points.

972
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 4: That's as low as you're gonna see anything any game

973
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: not involving Minnesota or Iowa. Congratulations to do those two teams.

974
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: How low can you go? Thor is there anything else

975
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: that you wanted to hit as far as a early hammer,

976
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: early hit according to your system.

977
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, just while we're on the fighting ridge frauds. I

978
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: think there's value on the fighting ridge rods this week

979
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: and they got they got one of their running backs

980
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: last week, Ron Andrew Wiggins, a kid who had been

981
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: out a couple weeks.

982
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: They get him back.

983
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: They got their full stable at running backs now, and

984
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: now they get they don't have to play on the

985
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: week days anymore. Now they get to play on Saturday,

986
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: a couple of extra days of rest. In this one,

987
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: soulth Carolina is awful. Their defense is awful. Their their

988
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: offensive line, they don't have an offensive line. They have

989
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: no running back depth right now, they're playing a true

990
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: freshman there rather is way down on weapons.

991
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: He's reverted to throwing to this true freshman, Nicholas Harbor.

992
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: These these screen passes and just you know, it's like

993
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: one two yards away from the line, and then having

994
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Harvard just run straight lines. Unimaginative offense because they just

995
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: don't have the pillars in place for everything, and maybe

996
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: because they don't have the advanced plays of the other

997
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: team as well. Jacksonville State puts a lot of pressure

998
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: on you, especially if you're not a well coached team,

999
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: because they run one of the fastest tempos on offense.

1000
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: In fact, it might now be the fastest addressed to

1001
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: tempo offense in college football.

1002
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: Just run, run, run, run, run, run run, Yeah.

1003
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 4: Twenty seconds.

1004
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: South Carolina's run defense is absolutely terrible, and they don't

1005
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: have a ton of depth either.

1006
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: Like I just mentioned, my you're getting fourteen and a

1007
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 3: half there, so it's over a key number.

1008
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: My line on that game is twelve, and South Carolina,

1009
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: like I said, is a little nicked up too, so

1010
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: I might even take a point off of that as well.

1011
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: Give it t Jacksonville State. I think I think there's

1012
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: value on Jacksonville State. Just a couple other ones that

1013
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: caught my eye that we did not talk about. One

1014
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: of the big ones, I think there's value on Notre

1015
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: Dame right now, Notre Dame traveling to Clemson. I know

1016
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: it's not it's really sad. I hope Doabo's not listening

1017
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: to this one that we can't consider any Clemson game

1018
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: is a big game anymore because they're so far off

1019
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: the national landscape right now. But this game, so it's

1020
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: down to three right now, I think that's the fire

1021
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: number on Notre Dame. My line on that game is

1022
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame minus four point four. The Clemson offense is

1023
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: just so anemic and Notre Dame's defense is really really good.

1024
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 3: We I mean, we've seen it over and over again.

1025
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is going to tie both Clemson's arms behind

1026
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: their back, and then Dabo's gonna get He's gonna have

1027
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: that that mad Dobbo face for you know, three hours

1028
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: and he his face is gonna get all ready.

1029
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna be yelling at people. And then Klubnik's finally

1030
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: gonna make a good throw.

1031
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: And then Dabble will try try to shake his hand

1032
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: when he comes to the sideline, and Klubnick will walk

1033
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: right by him like he always does, and it's just

1034
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: gonna be a bad time for Clemson. I expect Notre

1035
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: Dame to control that one. Like Notre Dame another one.

1036
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: I fade Baylor every single week, might as well keep

1037
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: it going. I realized Houston hasn't been good the last

1038
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but they more or less of show

1039
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: and fight for for Hulgo, you know last week now

1040
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: with standing like I said, Uh, but uh, that line

1041
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: right now Baylor minus four and a half. My line

1042
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: is Baylor minus one. I think it should be a

1043
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: coin flip one other quick one. I always back Jerry Kill,

1044
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: and the books never give Jerry Kill enough credit.

1045
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

1046
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: Their line in New Mexico State minus three hosting Middle

1047
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: Tennessee on Saturday. That Middle Tennessee team is not good

1048
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: and they've been a little nicked up with a key positions.

1049
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: My line on that game is New Mexico State minus

1050
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: six and a half, and I believe this game is

1051
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: for Bowl eligibility for New Mexico State and people out

1052
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: there who are saying Thor, you're an idiot, they already

1053
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: have six wins.

1054
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: Yes.

1055
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: New Mexico State, though, is one of two teams in

1056
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: the FBS to play thirteen games this year, so New

1057
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: Mexico State actually has to get to seven wins to

1058
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: qualify for a Bull Game, which makes this one important.

1059
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: We backed the fighting kills and we ride for the

1060
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: fighting kills forever.

1061
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: We have got our bets, at least we've got our

1062
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: early lines on our brains. Now, if you guys want

1063
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: to get set throughout the week, make sure you are

1064
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: subscribed right here YouTube dot com slash Betting Pros because

1065
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: we got you back on Wednesday. Believe Thor is back

1066
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: in the chair with Mike Ferrell, and I think I

1067
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: am hosting that one, so I will be jumping in.

1068
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: Bogwin's going to be Talloween night as we're recording it.

1069
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: Bogwin will be flying in here to Arizona to see

1070
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: me and maybe the World Series Arizona Dama back currently.

1071
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: That might have a little to do with it. But

1072
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: I will be on that show with Thor Mike Ferrell

1073
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: as they preview the slate, and then on Saturdays ten

1074
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: am Eastern get a live stream with Thor Mike to

1075
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,440
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1076
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,480
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1077
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1078
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,280
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1079
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,920
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1080
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: you guys so much for hanging out with us. Good

1081
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: luck this week and we will talk to you more

1082
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,040
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