Speaker 1: Good football.
Speaker 2: That's right, this is JMP. Everybody get in here, live
Speaker 2: in LA.
Speaker 3: Fifty days until the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, but
Speaker 3: we got to get through free agency first.
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, March fifth. I'm Jamie heard all.
Speaker 4: Here is Cody.
Speaker 3: Kessler, DeMarco Farr at the table, Kyle Brandt as well. Kyle,
Speaker 3: are you prepared for the frenzy?
Speaker 2: Do you think it? What grade of frenzy do you
Speaker 2: think we're going to get next week?
Speaker 5: With fifty fifty a full full on frenzy. Massive players
Speaker 5: change into different teams. Now, sometimes we we advertise a frenzy, it's.
Speaker 6: A bunch of a frenzy, Like.
Speaker 5: Come on, we got crickets here, the insiders are ready
Speaker 5: to roll. I think this year we're going to get it.
Speaker 5: I predicted that this year's super Bowl would be a blowout.
Speaker 6: Remember that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, every once in a while we get a
Speaker 5: dog terrible super Bowl, and we did.
Speaker 6: This is going to be a hell of a frenzy, though,
Speaker 6: watch Okay.
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, if he says it, then it must
Speaker 3: come true. We had Max Crosby on the show about
Speaker 3: a month or two ago in January, and it was
Speaker 3: really fun having him on because Max would say a
Speaker 3: single word a certain direction in the studio and everyone
Speaker 3: online is like, what's the Easter egg?
Speaker 2: Where is he going to go?
Speaker 3: When Max Crosby speaks, people listen. And yesterday on the
Speaker 3: Rush podcast, he said this about Aaron Rodgers, a now
Speaker 3: free agent quarterback, quote, I think this year fully healthy,
Speaker 3: full off season. My prediction is he's going to have
Speaker 3: a great year.
Speaker 2: He being Aaron Rodgers. I think he's going to have
Speaker 2: a big year, and I hope it's in our town.
Speaker 2: Our town. Crosby still under contract with.
Speaker 3: The Raiders, although there is some restructuring efforts. I'm sure
Speaker 3: that is taking place with the star defensive player Cody
Speaker 3: big time takeaway from Max Crosby effectively giving a pitch
Speaker 3: for Aaron Rodgers to come to Vegas.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 7: Now, I don't know if he's going to be in
Speaker 7: Las Vegas, but I think Rogers can still play at
Speaker 7: high level if he's on the right team. Right, But
Speaker 7: you got to look back at what his demands were.
Speaker 7: He said he wanted to play somewhere or it was
Speaker 7: warm weather, right, let's check for Vegas, but said he
Speaker 7: wants to go to.
Speaker 6: A contender, a team that can win.
Speaker 7: I don't know if Las Vegas is quite there yet
Speaker 7: right now, but they do have a lot of money
Speaker 7: to spend their second and salary cap behind the New
Speaker 7: England Patriots, right so they.
Speaker 6: Can go out there and get some pieces.
Speaker 7: They're gonna have to pay quarterback if they do, so
Speaker 7: that'll take a little bit of a hit, but overall,
Speaker 7: they have money to spend and go get guys. Another
Speaker 7: thing too, though, is do the Raiders value Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 7: more than they value Sam Dharmo or a guy that's
Speaker 7: maybe a little bit younger that still has some more
Speaker 7: to play, you know, or a Kirk Cousins, another veteran
Speaker 7: that's out there, or they value a guy in the
Speaker 7: draft right now and they're keeping the cards close to
Speaker 7: their chest with that six overall pick, and then they
Speaker 7: go out and get a veteran that's a backup and
Speaker 7: allow a rookie to go play. So I think there's
Speaker 7: so many question marks with this, But like I said,
Speaker 7: last year, Rogers had thirty nine hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns,
Speaker 7: only eleven interceptions on a team that started falling apart
Speaker 7: right They struggled throughout the rest of.
Speaker 6: The year, and then they had, you know, a change
Speaker 6: at the head coach.
Speaker 7: If they fired their head coach, fire their GM, all
Speaker 7: these different things falling apart, and he still played pretty decent.
Speaker 7: So I think if he does go to Vegas and
Speaker 7: they can build some pieces around him, he can have
Speaker 7: a chance to come back and play. I don't know
Speaker 7: if he's going to get quite back to where he's
Speaker 7: been before, but I think he can still produce at a very.
Speaker 6: I like Max doing it.
Speaker 5: I like Max picking up for the Raiders because I
Speaker 5: like Max on the Raiders. I don't see Rogers going
Speaker 5: to the Raiders. Let's haven't we seen this movie before.
Speaker 5: You go to an AFC team that has struggled for
Speaker 5: a long time to find a quarterback who's hungry, who
Speaker 5: has some nice weapons, and they have some money to spend.
Speaker 6: We just saw this two years ago.
Speaker 5: The Raiders have a lot of the same stink on
Speaker 5: them that the Jets have had. This is not some
Speaker 5: perennial winner. This is not a team that is in
Speaker 5: the playoffs every year.
Speaker 4: It's Roger.
Speaker 5: If you're Rogers, you're not going for one final season
Speaker 5: twenty one, so you can go six and eleven to
Speaker 5: get your head kicked in as a Raider at the
Speaker 5: end of the season. That's not what it's about. And
Speaker 5: that's why personally, I think Rodgers is really interested in
Speaker 5: the Rams, because Rams a the opt there, right, Rams
Speaker 5: are going places.
Speaker 6: Never mind the LA thing. Just for saying the.
Speaker 5: Rams are very good, and they're good every single year.
Speaker 5: Not to mention, you think Rogers wants to jump into
Speaker 5: the AFC West and like go against Mahomes and lose
Speaker 5: to him and all the things they have gone. I
Speaker 5: just it doesn't seem like a if you're planning like
Speaker 5: one final like Sweetheart year and at the end of
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame career, this sounds terrible.
Speaker 6: I really do think it does.
Speaker 5: Not to mention, and I said this before, and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to be a diplomatic here, I don't think Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers and Tom Brady are best friends, and I don't
Speaker 5: think they hate each other. I just don't think that
Speaker 5: they're boys. That's my intuition, and that's a little bit
Speaker 5: of my insight that I know for a fact, not
Speaker 5: only not best friends. Rogers is not Darnold. He is
Speaker 5: a god. He is a legend. Brady is a god.
Speaker 5: He's a legend. There's egos involved, there's legacies involved, and
Speaker 5: there's things involved where I don't know if Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: wants to be Tom Brady's little project as a new owner.
Speaker 5: There's something going on there, a big picture that I
Speaker 5: don't think would go well for number eight in the
Speaker 5: Jets right there, number twelve for the Raiders.
Speaker 6: There's everything about it that to not like.
Speaker 5: A couple things to like, Sure, we love Pete Carroll,
Speaker 5: who knows if that'll work. Sure we love some of
Speaker 5: the talent I can't ever see. You're in Rogers corner.
Speaker 5: You're like, you know you should do Man for your
Speaker 5: last year. Let's go to the Raiders because they're always good.
Speaker 5: Like It sounds like like one of the worst ideas
Speaker 5: in the history of bad ideas.
Speaker 6: I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4: I am kicking myself. I should have said Rogers Brady
Speaker 4: reality show. No, that would be fascinating. He'd watch that
Speaker 4: all day. The other thing, Leaving Las Vegas was a
Speaker 4: great movie, so this could be the same thing for
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Leaving Las Vegas, like, the guy just drinks himself to death.
Speaker 5: It's a terribly depressing movie.
Speaker 4: And it could end the same way. That's what I'm
Speaker 4: saying if you go there. But I'll just look at
Speaker 4: it this way. Aaron Rodgers is not what he was fair.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, yes, it's four time MVP.
Speaker 4: But he's no bum. I think he's good enough to
Speaker 4: win with and with Pete Carroll there, I get you
Speaker 4: that kind of I wouldn't say it's good deodorant for
Speaker 4: the stink that was coming out of Vegas for what
Speaker 4: was that franchise. I think he will change. That's the
Speaker 4: smartest move they've made in years. So they're headed in
Speaker 4: the right direction. Yeah, you could do a lot worse
Speaker 4: than him. The only question I have, and I've never
Speaker 4: lived in Vegas. I don't know a lot of people
Speaker 4: that live there. I don't know how the Rogers drama
Speaker 4: plays out with their fan base, and most of their
Speaker 4: fan base travels in anyway. So I think if you
Speaker 4: give Greater fans some hope that they can compete with
Speaker 4: Kansas City in the West, I think they could ignore
Speaker 4: the distraction Aaron Rodgers versus Sam Donald. This is what
Speaker 4: I would love to be a GM, But this is
Speaker 4: why I would not. I think I would go with
Speaker 4: the old guy over the young guy because I think
Speaker 4: I trust him more. But either way, I think he's
Speaker 4: still playing. And I like that Max Crosby as just
Speaker 4: like Miles Garrett is calling a shot. I want him,
Speaker 4: I want out. I love it. The guys aren't staying
Speaker 4: silent totally.
Speaker 3: DeMarco Kyle, There's not many things that I listen to
Speaker 3: you talk and I say here and I respect what
Speaker 3: you have to say, and like, I really really disagree
Speaker 3: with you on this one, and it's like a natural
Speaker 3: disagreement that is coming.
Speaker 2: To the surface.
Speaker 3: I think, haven't you ever worked with anybody that you're
Speaker 3: just straight up not friends with? But it works like
Speaker 3: it actually just comes out on the product.
Speaker 2: And it like it tracks like I think this could
Speaker 2: be a thing.
Speaker 3: I think no matter if Rogers and Tom Brady don't
Speaker 3: like each other, I actually think that what those two
Speaker 3: like better is building something that's successful in winning and
Speaker 3: leaving their legacy to your point, on a great note.
Speaker 3: And do I think Rogers is going to end his
Speaker 3: career on a Super Bowl win?
Speaker 2: I don't. Did Brady? He did not either.
Speaker 3: I think if they sign Aaron Rodgers, you are doing
Speaker 3: something better than you could with Sam Donald, which is
Speaker 3: you are acknowledging that you're not in it.
Speaker 2: Sam Donald's going.
Speaker 3: To come and want like a five or six year
Speaker 3: career with you, a ten year career with you. Rogers
Speaker 3: knows that this is towards the end of it. If
Speaker 3: you sign Aaron Rodgers in Las Vegas, you can take
Speaker 3: every single draft pick that you have and focus on
Speaker 3: the rest of your team, which is what.
Speaker 2: The Raiders need to do.
Speaker 3: If you are distracted by the shiny object in the room,
Speaker 3: which is trying to draft a quarterback and a non
Speaker 3: quarterback draft year, I think the Raiders are setting themselves back.
Speaker 3: I think Rogers is a great fit. I think personality wise,
Speaker 3: he has Raider Nation all over him.
Speaker 2: Kind of you call him.
Speaker 3: Petty competitive yesterday, and I think the Rogers breathing.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters that they don't like each other.
Speaker 3: It's like the Bermuda triangle of success that could work
Speaker 3: out with the Las Vegas Raiders Pete Carroll, Tom Prady
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers. And I think those who enter the
Speaker 3: Bermuda triangle of the Raiders, I think you could get
Speaker 3: tangled up in something nasty.
Speaker 6: It's good take. I do think it matters to them,
Speaker 6: especially to Rives, because it's like he's looking for quality
Speaker 6: of life. He has nothing to prove it's done.
Speaker 5: I've done everything, I have, all the money, i have,
Speaker 5: all the legacy, Like I want a great fit and
Speaker 5: a perfect spot. And it's like they it could work
Speaker 5: and the fans could want them, but like Rogers has
Speaker 5: to want to be there.
Speaker 6: So it's not only the Brady thing. I just think
Speaker 6: that's a piece of it.
Speaker 5: I think it's mostly like the Raiders probably won't be
Speaker 5: very good, and what am I doing? And then there's
Speaker 5: this whole DeVante Adams thing where like we all just
Speaker 5: kind of assume that he wants to play with Davante,
Speaker 5: and there's this bizarre thing about could they bring DeVante
Speaker 5: back to the Raiders after it was a bizarre deal. Listen,
Speaker 5: of course, it's fun to see Carol and Brady and Rogers,
Speaker 5: and I just don't think it'll happen. And I just
Speaker 5: don't think Rogers is into it. And I listen, I
Speaker 5: don't report this. I just go with my gut in
Speaker 5: my history. It maybe will be sitting here him like
Speaker 5: Rogers to the Raiders. I just don't think so well.
Speaker 3: And again I always don't know, rereel like that your gut.
Speaker 3: You have said that you think he's you think he
Speaker 3: should be done playing, like you hope that he his
Speaker 3: last nap.
Speaker 7: And that's what we said yesterday was that, you know,
Speaker 7: watching Aaron Rodgers when I was growing up, you want
Speaker 7: to see him leave on a high, right, And I
Speaker 7: agree with kind a little bit.
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's Vegas.
Speaker 7: But the reason that makes me think this can happen
Speaker 7: is because Pete Carroll's going to be seventy four years
Speaker 7: old this year, right, and he said he's a young
Speaker 7: seventy before. I just don't see him going and getting it.
Speaker 7: And I don't know, Sam Donold had a great year.
Speaker 7: Is he going to continue to develop that way? Or
Speaker 7: are they going to go get a rookie quarterback in
Speaker 7: the draft and not waste Pete Carroll's years but have
Speaker 7: time to you know, hopefully this quarterback develops.
Speaker 6: And then I don't know if people.
Speaker 5: What's Pete's goal is like, let's get our let's get
Speaker 5: our bleep together, and like, wouldn't it be cool if
Speaker 5: we made the wildcard round? That like they make the playoffs,
Speaker 5: that's great, Okay, So let's say they bring in Rogers
Speaker 5: and do it, and they make the playoffs, and then
Speaker 5: Rogers is forty two.
Speaker 6: And he's like, I think I'm done.
Speaker 5: I got hurt again or I'm old, and then he's
Speaker 5: gone and then we are just starting over again and
Speaker 5: we have to get another quarterback. So like the Jets
Speaker 5: thing with Rogers was let's win the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Now we go, we got to win.
Speaker 5: Now, it's there's no like, let's get things started with
Speaker 5: Rogers and then we'll have to change again.
Speaker 6: It's just it's another thing doesn't fit for me.
Speaker 4: We're Gon's got a lot of money. Though, if they
Speaker 4: wanted to go all in to win right now, to
Speaker 4: kind of blank them picks, I mean, you could with
Speaker 4: him at quarterback and say in two years, we'll start
Speaker 4: over anyway, but we're starting over as champion.
Speaker 3: You don't think Kyle that Like they could build something
Speaker 3: around him round of Rogers, build up a team, build
Speaker 3: up your offensive line, like, make your trenches great, and
Speaker 3: then it is easier to interchange a quarterback in in
Speaker 3: two years.
Speaker 5: But then are you drafting like, because then it's it's
Speaker 5: some neo fight.
Speaker 6: We have no idea. If he's good, it's.
Speaker 5: Just the Raiders made their own bed. It's I think
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll has brought into being an adult. And I
Speaker 5: love the Pete higher too.
Speaker 6: Me too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, okay, so we're bringing Pete Carroll back.
Speaker 5: Your coach is seventy four quarterbacks forty two?
Speaker 6: Like what are we doing?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean like at some point, like we got to
Speaker 5: start fresh with something, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And do you think that you think they go
Speaker 7: to Jordan Love route and bring Rogers in and he
Speaker 7: knows we're going to get a young player that they
Speaker 7: develop under you for the next two three years and
Speaker 7: then set us up for success.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's happened before, and we sa and I
Speaker 6: asked Jordan Love.
Speaker 5: This screw is something. I don't think Raiders fans are
Speaker 5: clamoring for Rogers. I know, I don't not now it's
Speaker 5: a myth. But you might like him in December. You
Speaker 5: may hate him now. You may hate him.
Speaker 4: Now in September. Like Raider fans, I don't like him,
Speaker 4: I don't like Rodgers, but by December you may wind
Speaker 4: up loving the guy really because he can still play,
Speaker 4: he can still help you.
Speaker 6: No, I agree, I agree?
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy, we're also like again, This is not you
Speaker 5: don't bring Rogers in a vacuum.
Speaker 6: This is not insert quarterback here.
Speaker 5: This is a cultive personality, a massive media deal, a
Speaker 5: whole thing, you know that, Like the Jets just went
Speaker 5: through that. It's not that's just part of the thing
Speaker 5: of bringing in Rogers. It's going to change your whole
Speaker 5: identity as a company. And I think that's also something again.
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders need a new identity in certain
Speaker 3: spots of their organization, and I think it would fit
Speaker 3: in Vegas because it is a circus in and of itself.
Speaker 6: I mean, we've said with the same conversations about New
Speaker 6: York City. Yeah, not perfect New York City.
Speaker 3: We saw him on Broadway, and we saw him going
Speaker 3: to the next games and making it to Rios like
Speaker 3: it worked in moments like that.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, if Max Crosby was a GM,
Speaker 7: he'd already be a Raider, Max working, you got, you
Speaker 7: got a sight tactic raider.
Speaker 4: He's a runagade. This is what they used to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Ian Rapaford, our NFL Network insider, Ian,
Speaker 3: good morning to you. One of the top defensive free
Speaker 3: agents is not going to test the market. Let's go
Speaker 3: to Dallas and talk to us about what unfolded yesterday.
Speaker 9: Yesterday was the deadline for teams to franchise tag players,
Speaker 9: and the word going in this according to his agent,
Speaker 9: Sam Leaf, was at the Cowboys, we're going to franchise
Speaker 9: tag ohso o diggi Zoo. A fast forward a couple hours,
Speaker 9: they up their offer and they struck a deal. It
Speaker 9: gets a four year, eighty million dollar extension, one of
Speaker 9: the fifty million dollars guaranteed, which you know, on its
Speaker 9: face looks like a great deal for Ohso Diggi Zoo,
Speaker 9: one of the better young.
Speaker 6: Tackles in the NFL.
Speaker 9: But consider this, the franchise tag would have been twenty
Speaker 9: five million dollars fully guaranteed on one deal.
Speaker 6: He only gets.
Speaker 9: Twenty two million dollars in year one. This deal averages
Speaker 9: twenty million dollars per year. If he did two franchise tags,
Speaker 9: it would average more than twenty five million dollars, probably
Speaker 9: twenty six and a half million dollars per year. It
Speaker 9: is a great deal for the Dallas Cowboys, one of
Speaker 9: the more team friendly deals that we've seen in some time.
Speaker 9: Allows them added space in case they want to be
Speaker 9: creative and add more guys in free agency. To get
Speaker 9: a little cap room. To do this deal, cde Lamb
Speaker 9: restructured his deal deal Obviously the big stends from last year.
Speaker 9: This is not a pay cut. This really isn't anything
Speaker 9: except for accounting. He still gets all the money. He
Speaker 9: didn't do any favors for the team. They just basically
Speaker 9: move the money around and create more space this year. Meanwhile,
Speaker 9: the Jets created.
Speaker 4: Some big time cap space by.
Speaker 9: Releasing Devonte Adams, their former big name receiver, one of
Speaker 9: their big trades from last year. Remember run in Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 9: he added Devanta Adams did not work out as they
Speaker 9: wanted to. Aaron Rodgers now going to be a free agent.
Speaker 9: DeVante Adams officially a free agent and who everyone talks
Speaker 9: guys about him joining Rogers and maybe maybe but from
Speaker 9: what I understand, he wants to be on the West
Speaker 9: Coast for his next team next year.
Speaker 3: Okay, good to know, Thank you very much. We will
Speaker 3: be relying on you heavily when it comes to the
Speaker 3: free agency frenzy that we hope it will become.
Speaker 2: Talking a little bit reptip. We're going to turn our
Speaker 2: attention to that next week.
Speaker 3: It's guys like Chris Godwin, Sam Darnold, Aaron Rodgers. Where
Speaker 3: are they going to land? Are they staying with their
Speaker 3: current teams? They're finding new homes for twenty thirty five.
Speaker 3: We're all over this. It's called Free Agency Frenzy, and
Speaker 3: we hope it lives up to the name. Eight hours
Speaker 3: of live coverage starting Monday, March tenth, ten am.
Speaker 2: Eastern on NFL Network.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're percolating about something, and I'm curious
Speaker 3: that it's going to be in the second segment.
Speaker 5: What I'm just thinking of trying to hype the frenzy
Speaker 5: even more. That's all I put on this planet to do, Jamie,
Speaker 5: is promote the frenzy.
Speaker 3: Gas pedaled down on the front Sea. How about more
Speaker 3: prospects coming in? Nick Eamon Worri from South Carolina took
Speaker 3: the baton.
Speaker 2: From Xavier Worthy and stole the show at the.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five NFL Combine That means speed on set.
Speaker 3: Standout Safety joined US Live to talk about his memorable performance.
Speaker 5: Kyle, Here's a forty three inch vertical and we just
Speaker 5: watched him jump down.
Speaker 6: That's incredible. He's going to hang from the rafters.
Speaker 1: All right first to Marco Farr.
Speaker 5: We're going down memory lane with you, my friend, sir,
Speaker 5: reminiscing about old number seventy five.
Speaker 6: Sorry Chris Chandler, we keep showing that play, don'pe be
Speaker 6: sorry for Chandler.
Speaker 1: Goead so he.
Speaker 6: Got to a super Bowl.
Speaker 5: He's talking about a Rams legend that came before him,
Speaker 5: and what the story is behind that number?
Speaker 6: DeMarco?
Speaker 1: Next, good football?
Speaker 4: You think we will go hunt?
Speaker 10: Think we will go.
Speaker 8: The nah?
Speaker 6: You think we will go well hunting?
Speaker 4: Buffalo R?
Speaker 11: What do you call me?
Speaker 4: You have cast me respress? Got you here.
Speaker 3: To Marko far everybody, it's our friend j F. Those
Speaker 3: are great highlights. You sound great humming that tune.
Speaker 2: You look great.
Speaker 3: Talk at the Lombardi and you look even better wearing
Speaker 3: that number seventy five.
Speaker 4: I missed that tunnel. I love that tunnel. Coming out
Speaker 4: into the dome in Saint Louis was just when you
Speaker 4: turned your brain and off. You stopped being human and
Speaker 4: you became a hunter. So you saw that transformation as
Speaker 4: soon as we hit the field. We were different guys,
Speaker 4: at least I was, and I tried to bring as
Speaker 4: many people along as possible. But fun, you know, playing
Speaker 4: in the NFL.
Speaker 10: For me.
Speaker 4: I think there are eight fars that played in the NFL,
Speaker 4: and I might be the eighth. So it's been a
Speaker 4: lifelong dream. So started playing ball. Two older brothers. They
Speaker 4: used to beat the crap out of me in the backyard.
Speaker 4: You know, I was the tackling dummy. So I couldn't
Speaker 4: wait to play. So I grew up in the East Bay.
Speaker 4: The Raiders were still there. Howie Long was my idol.
Speaker 4: He was my guy, so I wanted to be like him.
Speaker 4: So I took that number seventy five and I tried
Speaker 4: to be like him, emulate him, do everything he did,
Speaker 4: be that guy. Yeah, I mean, come on, dude, look
Speaker 4: at that aura. Everything he did I did. So when
Speaker 4: I got to college, I had all of these Raider posters,
Speaker 4: all these Howie posters, and I had this big, long
Speaker 4: Howie poster that had to be six six feet long. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's got jeans and a leather jacket, right, tight jeans
Speaker 4: and a leather So my friends would come in and go,
Speaker 4: what's with the Howie poster? You know, what's with that?
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's Howie Long. Do you know who that is? Like, dude,
Speaker 4: I don't think that's for you. Okay, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't think that posters poster, but anything, howie, I
Speaker 4: had to have. So seventy five has always been my number.
Speaker 4: So we go through U DUB We won a national championship.
Speaker 4: We're very, very good. I was Steve Epman's backup forever.
Speaker 4: Some of them number one overall pick, number one overall pick.
Speaker 4: So two years later, same numbers, I go undrafted. So
Speaker 4: I'm smoking, like, why him number one? Why me undrafted?
Speaker 4: Well he's bigger, stronger, faster.
Speaker 6: I get it.
Speaker 4: So I had to fight my way up into the NFL.
Speaker 4: So I got invited on a free agent deal to
Speaker 4: the La Rams. Tampa offered me, Cleveland offered me, The
Speaker 4: Rams offered me more. So it's West Coast. I'm a
Speaker 4: Pac ten guy. I'm coming here. So I had to
Speaker 4: fight my way onto this football team the first day. Now,
Speaker 4: this is after five years of being at U dub
Speaker 4: Where we are it in town. You could have painted
Speaker 4: a rock purple and gold and sold it for fifty
Speaker 4: bucks back then, So that's what I'm used to. I
Speaker 4: go into my first NFL locker room and I'm sharing
Speaker 4: a locker, Like, do you not know me who I am.
Speaker 4: I don't share lockers. That's not me. Not to be arrogant.
Speaker 4: I just don't do that. And then who's number ninety four, Well,
Speaker 4: that's your number, that's not my number. Give okay whatever,
Speaker 4: I get it. This is what we have to do.
Speaker 4: So you go through practices. I'm fighting Jackie Slater's out there, okay,
Speaker 4: and the age difference is he could have been my father, literally,
Speaker 4: like he's going on year eighteen. I'm in year one.
Speaker 4: My first pass rush rep ever was against Jackie Slater.
Speaker 4: He punched me right in the throat, and I'm looking
Speaker 4: at Chuck Knock's the coach, like are you gonna tell
Speaker 4: him something? He's like, no, this is the pros. Take
Speaker 4: care of it yourself. So I learned. So we get
Speaker 4: to final cuts. This is funny. We got to go
Speaker 4: down to San Diego and play the Chargers, and the
Speaker 4: D line coach George Dyer, a great guy, sits me
Speaker 4: in a room with Mark Buttet, who was last year's
Speaker 4: starter at detail and he goes, I love you both.
Speaker 4: I can't make this choice. It's close between the two
Speaker 4: of you. One of you is staying, one of you
Speaker 4: is going home. So We're gonna make it like this.
Speaker 4: Whoever plays the best tomorrow gets the job. It's never
Speaker 4: been more cutting dry than that. I look at Mark
Speaker 4: and I respect him. You're going home. I only brought
Speaker 4: a toothbrush to camp. I have no backup plan. I
Speaker 4: burned the boats. I'm here. So during that game in
Speaker 4: San Diego, I think in the first quarter, had a sack,
Speaker 4: tackle for loss, even made plays on special teams. I
Speaker 4: am not going home. It's clear. I'm the guy so
Speaker 4: made the team. I see the turk walk by, he
Speaker 4: passes me up, he grabs a bunch of rookies, cuts them.
Speaker 4: I'm on the football team. So the first thing I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do is take away this ninety four. Right, So
Speaker 4: I'm going right to the equipment room, me storming in there.
Speaker 4: The equipment man had been there. His name, oh my god,
Speaker 4: his name is Cap See right now, they're gonna hate
Speaker 4: me for this, but he's been there forever. He's an
Speaker 4: older guy, like he must have been in his seventies.
Speaker 4: So I go up and lay my jersey on the
Speaker 4: table and say I want seventy five. And he looks
Speaker 4: at me like, do you know what you just asked for?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I want seventy five. I'm thinking, Howie
Speaker 4: right behind him is the Fearsome Forsome with Deacon Jones.
Speaker 4: We're in seventy five. I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 4: just asked for Deacon's number. He goes, I'll tell you
Speaker 4: what you do. Go outside, take a left, take a right.
Speaker 4: Look for this old guy in this barka lounger with
Speaker 4: his feet up. Go ask him if you can have
Speaker 4: seventy five. Follow it to a t. There's the guy, ugly,
Speaker 4: crusty feet. So I said, tap the feet. Excuse me, sir.
Speaker 4: He sits up like the undertaker. It's Deacon Jones. Really,
Speaker 4: the Deacon Jones there, he's at every camp right leans up,
Speaker 4: What do you need? Sorry, mister Jones. I went and
Speaker 4: asked mister hewittt Toddy Hewitt, can I get seventy five?
Speaker 4: And he told me to come out here and ask you.
Speaker 4: And he looks up and goes, what's your name? I said,
Speaker 4: DeMarco far are you any good? I said, I'd like
Speaker 4: to think I am, sir, I'm here. I made the team.
Speaker 4: He goes, I'll tell you what, when you get to
Speaker 4: the quarterback, you make sure you put them in the graveyard,
Speaker 4: not the hospital, the graveyard. And I said, okay, sir,
Speaker 4: I'll do my best. No, no, don't do your best
Speaker 4: the grave yard. Now go back in there and tell
Speaker 4: them you can wear seventy five. Oh that's right. So
Speaker 4: I went back in there and I gave him. I
Speaker 4: told him, I said, Deacon said it was okay, got
Speaker 4: the jersey, so happy called my people. Deacon catches me
Speaker 4: after practice and goes, if I see anything different out
Speaker 4: of you, I'm going to take that number back. I
Speaker 4: hope I made the guy proud. I hope I made
Speaker 4: the guy proud. So that's how we started to get
Speaker 4: to here. So crazy stuff, but going through those meat
Speaker 4: grinders of old school training camps when they care about
Speaker 4: you and don't care about you, and there's no real
Speaker 4: enforcement as a defensive tackle, and they ask you to
Speaker 4: play out a position constantly, like I'm a dtackle man.
Speaker 4: I used to make my living with the quarterbacks standing
Speaker 4: right there. Now I got to go play defensive end. Well,
Speaker 4: why are you playing at defensive end? We want to
Speaker 4: see how you react, not that we want to see
Speaker 4: you make plays, We just want to see how you react.
Speaker 6: We see some of them, I don't win the seventy five.
Speaker 6: Let's see him.
Speaker 4: Making it plays here we go. Yeah, look at that
Speaker 4: young dude. See he's seventy five. So all this is Howie.
Speaker 4: But I'm respecting Deacon Jones.
Speaker 2: Oh cool?
Speaker 5: And I did you continue to have a relationship with Deacon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we kept in touch. He came through Saint Louis.
Speaker 4: The Rams did a great job of embracing the LA
Speaker 4: Stars and bringing them back to Saint Louis. So every
Speaker 4: time he did come back to Saint Louis, I was
Speaker 4: the guy escorting him and talking about him. I was
Speaker 4: there for the number retirement when they finally when they
Speaker 4: finally retired seventy five, and he said, okay, there was
Speaker 4: only one other guy that could wear. He's done now,
Speaker 4: so we can get this thing done. And they retired
Speaker 4: his numbers. So just a really special moment for me.
Speaker 4: I carried that through my entire career. He taught me
Speaker 4: what being a RAM really meant and how to really.
Speaker 6: Hate the Niners.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and why so look at seventy five. It's I
Speaker 4: grew up loving him, but I wearing that number with
Speaker 4: the horns on my helmet was special and I took
Speaker 4: that seriously.
Speaker 2: Do you have a friendship and a relationship now with
Speaker 2: how He Long?
Speaker 4: Okay, so Chris Long was drafted by the Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so he can't. I think it was the number two pick.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the year, but I remember the first
Speaker 4: time he came in. I said, dude, I am a
Speaker 4: member of your family. You just don't know me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because everything you did or you learn from your father,
Speaker 4: I did too. So and I told how he the
Speaker 4: same thing, and how I kind of fan boyd around
Speaker 4: how he the first time I met him, and he
Speaker 4: kind of ran away from me. Yeah, but I loved him.
Speaker 4: I just told him everything you did. I wanted to
Speaker 4: be even this.
Speaker 6: Like standing there, I get it.
Speaker 4: Everything when he gets up and he makes the play
Speaker 4: you've seen this with how when he throws his shoulders back.
Speaker 4: I did the same thing. Everything he did I tried
Speaker 4: to do. Yeah, he was just a special guy. So
Speaker 4: I have a question.
Speaker 5: Let's say that Deacon says no, and you go back
Speaker 5: and you wear ninety four. Don't you think you could
Speaker 5: have gone on to have the same career that you
Speaker 5: did in ninety four.
Speaker 4: I'd like to think. So it's the same guy and
Speaker 4: I'm with you, my theater on the ground. I get it.
Speaker 4: But I'm so romantic about this game. That's why being
Speaker 4: in this room, seeing all these guys. When I walk
Speaker 4: out of the building, I see all the guys that
Speaker 4: I stop and look because these are the guys I
Speaker 4: dreamed about being and then here I am. So I'd
Speaker 4: like to think so. But to me, seventy five is magic. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and everything I did it wasn't really me. It was
Speaker 4: those guys before me doing it.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you football players, the NFL guys in your numbers,
Speaker 5: it's such a crazy relationship.
Speaker 6: You know. I mean, guys pay absorbitant amounts of money
Speaker 6: to have a different number in their jersey.
Speaker 11: I have it.
Speaker 7: When I got to Cleveland, I had number five on
Speaker 7: in the preseason. I want to be number six. This
Speaker 7: one is a little ruthless. But our kicker at the time,
Speaker 7: our punter, was number six. As soon as he got cut,
Speaker 7: I felt bad, but I I spent the equipment room
Speaker 7: and asked if I could get number six before anyone else.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it says something about that wearing your number
Speaker 7: makes you play a little better.
Speaker 2: It's a great history. We love it so much. I
Speaker 2: love this story time.
Speaker 4: Down twenty five k from Orlando pay that's the oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, switch numbers. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big time too when you get to
Speaker 3: stay with that organization that wanted to keep you there
Speaker 3: until trades happen, which is happening right now on GMFB.
Speaker 3: Ian Rappaport, get back in here. Something's going on with
Speaker 3: Joe Tooney that we need to know about.
Speaker 9: We do have a major, major trade for the Kansas
Speaker 9: City Chiefs and the Chicago Bears. Once again, the Bears
Speaker 9: load up on the offensive line. Earlier this week it
Speaker 9: was Jonah Jackson. This time a big one, sources say,
Speaker 9: all pro guard Joe Tooney, one of the best in
Speaker 9: the NFL, of course, played tackle this year at a pinch,
Speaker 9: but is a big time, big time guard, is expected
Speaker 9: to be traded to the Chicago Bears. This deal, of course,
Speaker 9: cannot be final until the start of the league year.
Speaker 9: If you look at what Kansas City is doing, they're
Speaker 9: ready paying Creed Humphrey, They obviously are going to pay
Speaker 9: Trey Smith. They need to free up some space. Joe
Speaker 9: Tooney ends up going I let's say similar to the
Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill trade a couple of years back, a player
Speaker 9: about to get a third contract, they move on, get
Speaker 9: a little younger.
Speaker 6: Free up some space.
Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears.
Speaker 9: Nothing is more important than protecting Caleb Williams. They now
Speaker 9: have one of the best in the NFL to do it.
Speaker 2: Ian, Thank you so much. That is massive news.
Speaker 3: Joe Toney headed to Chicago from Kansas City. Of course,
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson a new head coach in Chicago, he knows
Speaker 3: what it looks like to take care of his quarterback.
Speaker 3: Coming from Detroit. Kyle Brandt, a native of Chicago, massive
Speaker 3: news for the Bears in the future of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5: It takes a lot to have an interior lineman trade
Speaker 5: to a losing team and all of us be like.
Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, And that is just that.
Speaker 6: First of all, the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: Fans, they just saw that homes running for his life
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl and they couldn't protect him.
Speaker 6: Now they lose one of their best line in them.
Speaker 5: But this is a Bear story that Joe Toney in
Speaker 5: regard as one of the best overall offensive linemen in
Speaker 5: the entire league. This is Ben Johnson, this is Ryan Poles.
Speaker 5: And you know it's funny you mentioned Caleb And of
Speaker 5: course it is about Caleb.
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson is going to run the ball. Look at
Speaker 6: the Lions offense.
Speaker 5: The last two years they run and they had an
Speaker 5: awesome offensive line. I love this move it is. It
Speaker 5: feels like old fashioned Bears. They're not done with that
Speaker 5: running game.
Speaker 6: Either.
Speaker 5: They're going to add I think a big name running
Speaker 5: back in free agency or the draft. They will have
Speaker 5: at least two guys carrying the ball and Joe Toney
Speaker 5: will be blocking form.
Speaker 6: It's a great day for the Bears.
Speaker 4: So they bring in Tooney and the Rams just traded
Speaker 4: Jonah Jackson to Chicago. He's familiar with the offense.
Speaker 10: Show it in hand, man, What.
Speaker 4: Is going on Inago in Chicago right now? Protect Caleb Williams,
Speaker 4: see what happens. Oh my god, yeah, run it is.
Speaker 3: It's a Bears story, it's a Joe Toney story, it's
Speaker 3: a Ben jon story. But as a quarterback, I can
Speaker 3: imagine you must feel great about this.
Speaker 6: I promise you.
Speaker 7: Right now, Kaleb Williings phone is blowing up in a
Speaker 7: good way.
Speaker 6: He's very excited.
Speaker 7: I was with Tony when I was in Cleveland in
Speaker 7: New England, and he is the definition of a pros pro.
Speaker 7: He was a great offensive lineman. He cared about the quarterback.
Speaker 7: He always did the right thing. That is a huge
Speaker 7: pickup for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: Absolutely wow, this is really fun when breaking news happens
Speaker 3: right here in the middle of GMFB. We loved your
Speaker 3: number seventy five story making history in a number.
Speaker 2: Let's see if Toney can do so with the Chicago
Speaker 2: Bears and his new quarterback.
Speaker 3: But until then, to Marco far our friend at the table, Newboddy,
Speaker 3: number seventy five looked great for the Rams when you played.
Speaker 12: In the cemetery all right, fifty days away from the
Speaker 12: NFL Draft from guys descending upon Green Bay and hearing
Speaker 12: their name call to play in the NFL next year.
Speaker 3: One of the best parts of draft season is getting
Speaker 3: to know the prospects.
Speaker 2: And now we have an in studio prospect.
Speaker 3: South Carolina standout Savdy Nick Emon.
Speaker 1: Warr what up? You're here?
Speaker 3: You're happy, You're smiley, you're fit, you look great. How
Speaker 3: are you feeling.
Speaker 8: I'm in a good move man. I'm blessed to be here,
Speaker 8: mass happy.
Speaker 5: Blessed to have someone from the real USC finally at
Speaker 5: the University.
Speaker 1: Live game. Cock.
Speaker 6: I told him, I said, it.
Speaker 7: Last week on the show, we were doing it, me
Speaker 7: and Man Titaya were doing a breakdown of USC Notre Dame.
Speaker 7: Very subtle comment USC, the real USC Southern cal people
Speaker 7: came from.
Speaker 8: You on Twitter.
Speaker 3: And this is why I have to sit here between
Speaker 3: you two. All right, So, Nick, you were in Indianapolis
Speaker 3: last week at the combine. Everybody's walking around trying to
Speaker 3: do their best, and you really did. You ran a
Speaker 3: four three eight forty.
Speaker 2: You hit the vertical jump at what was it? Say
Speaker 2: it for me?
Speaker 10: Forty forty three inches three and two events.
Speaker 2: And you an eleven foot broad jump?
Speaker 8: Was that?
Speaker 2: Did you hit every single number that you want to do?
Speaker 13: I hit on my vertical and I hit on my bride.
Speaker 13: I was really expecting to run like a four three
Speaker 13: five four three six, But you know, still still happen.
Speaker 2: Nice nightmare material, look at it? You here you go?
Speaker 3: So why does this help you to be able to
Speaker 3: do stuff like this as a safety?
Speaker 8: Just super athletic.
Speaker 13: You know, I ain't letting no balls over my head
Speaker 13: any fifty fifty balls of their mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then obviously after the combine, all these articles come
Speaker 7: out about the winners and losers. Obviously you were one
Speaker 7: of the top winners from the combine. How does that
Speaker 7: make you feel? Does that change your perspective a little bit?
Speaker 7: Is it right back to work?
Speaker 8: It's right back to work? You know the combine is good.
Speaker 13: But they like, you know a lot of people like
Speaker 13: say like combine warrior or something, or like yeah, shaking
Speaker 13: on the combine. Right back to work, you know, looking
Speaker 13: for a team to come pick me up, come draft me.
Speaker 6: So great mentality.
Speaker 4: Congratulations on your performance, man, what do be ready? Have
Speaker 4: you always been fast?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I always been fast? Okay? Four three eight you just
Speaker 4: don't wake out of bed doing that? Six three two twenty.
Speaker 4: You played safety? Or are you willing to move down
Speaker 4: in the box and be one of those highbrid backer
Speaker 4: types or are you more of a center field guy.
Speaker 13: I think I'm a real true safety going coming to college.
Speaker 13: My college coach had a conversation about me playing like
Speaker 13: just safety, no linebacker. He coached Camp Chancellor in college,
Speaker 13: so he's sent a lot of similarity. So I'm a
Speaker 13: real true safety.
Speaker 5: I see some camps, I see sim some Derwin James
Speaker 5: sitting right here.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: Like that is that a guy that you look at like,
Speaker 5: oh tall, strong, explosive.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I watched Dari film a lot, crazy athlete,
Speaker 13: super explosive, hot motor dude, So I watched it out.
Speaker 5: We got some of that same charisma two going on,
Speaker 5: so I still can't get over. We just watched you
Speaker 5: jump forty three inches and yeah, that was my spot.
Speaker 5: When how old are you when you could first dunkle basketball?
Speaker 13: I think I was in like eighth grade, summer eighth grade. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I was clearing the room a little bit, So that's
Speaker 13: when I knew I had two hands. One hand, two hands.
Speaker 6: Incredible.
Speaker 5: So we're looking back, but as we're watching this, let's
Speaker 5: look forward.
Speaker 6: I always love asking these questions.
Speaker 5: So you're in the league this fall, and you're out
Speaker 5: there and you start you're playing safety and ball snapped.
Speaker 5: It's maybe a third and long and you're scanning the
Speaker 5: field and the ball comes out of the quarterback's hands.
Speaker 5: You jump it and pick it. Who is that quarterback
Speaker 5: in your dream? Like, who's the guy that you would
Speaker 5: just be an honor to get? The marvelous of all
Speaker 5: the dudes?
Speaker 13: A lot of dudes say like Pat Mahomes and like
Speaker 13: different different other different quarterbacks but Lamar he kind of
Speaker 13: like the best quarterback at me, I ain't never seen
Speaker 13: the dude like play quarterback that athletic and just that
Speaker 13: you know, efficient, So he's just he's just I think
Speaker 13: he's the best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Right when you get La marvelous, then now you're going to.
Speaker 4: Try to house this thing.
Speaker 6: Las is going to try to tackle you with my friend,
Speaker 6: how's that going to go?
Speaker 8: I think I'll beat him to the end zone.
Speaker 2: You see you play on Saturdays in college.
Speaker 3: You turn right around on Sundays and are you watching
Speaker 3: the NFL? Are you taking it in like a real
Speaker 3: football fan.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Usually on Sundays you come in and white watch them
Speaker 13: and do breakdowns so I can like catch up on
Speaker 13: the highlights and stuff.
Speaker 3: So he is Lamar your favorite player right now in
Speaker 3: the NFLO.
Speaker 13: At your not Yeah, I take up for Lamar anytime,
Speaker 13: you know, any game he goes into.
Speaker 8: I'm heavy on Lamar.
Speaker 4: So cool.
Speaker 5: These things have a way of working out, Jamie, Like
Speaker 5: you could end up with Baltimore. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like it's that that'd be the dream come true,
Speaker 5: Like dream come true.
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, I'm blessed for any team to
Speaker 13: come draft me. But playing alongside con Hymn too, you
Speaker 13: know at.
Speaker 2: Home, great young defense, Zach Orr.
Speaker 3: Right, so you played at South Carolina, but you also
Speaker 3: grew up what fifteen minutes from the stadium. Did you
Speaker 3: just walk beneath the shadows of the team and say,
Speaker 3: I'm going to play there one day?
Speaker 2: What are your memories of that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 13: I used to watch South Carolina ball a lot growing up.
Speaker 13: A lot of legends came through their J. C. Horne,
Speaker 13: Daveon Clowney, Stefan Gilmore, Deebo Samuel. So it's a lot
Speaker 13: of dudes that went through South Carolina. So my house
Speaker 13: is fifteen minutes from the stadium and it was just
Speaker 13: right up the road. So just want to be the
Speaker 13: hometown hero.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about some college flavor here. So South Carolina,
Speaker 5: South Carolina, Clemson. It's a dirty word to you, all right, as.
Speaker 6: It should be.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: So at one point, there's a photograph of you with
Speaker 5: a sock Clemson sock. Yeah, and you and your teammates
Speaker 5: were like putting out cigars on it. Yeah, look at this.
Speaker 5: Take us through this because this picture says a lot.
Speaker 13: Yeah, So that's my teammate Dylan Stewart. Yeah, he a
Speaker 13: dude man young freshman for American. So after the game,
Speaker 13: you know, Clemson, it's the last game. Quarterback went crazy
Speaker 13: thirty sixteen. So we went in the locker room. We're
Speaker 13: just having a good time and I think someone snatched
Speaker 13: the towel on the where we got on top. Someone
Speaker 13: had a towel, lit up the cigars and we're sitting
Speaker 13: in the chairs and you just asked a towel.
Speaker 7: So yeah, and you can tell how humble you are,
Speaker 7: also very confident.
Speaker 6: What does it mean to you right now? I mean
Speaker 6: just and you know we've been.
Speaker 7: There before, but getting ready to achieve your dream you
Speaker 7: obviously will the name will be called on draft day?
Speaker 7: Have you choked that all? And yet does it feel
Speaker 7: like reality? Are you just kind of going through the
Speaker 7: motions getting ready for the draft.
Speaker 13: I kind of been going through the motions a little
Speaker 13: bit like getting ready for the draft. But I'm ready,
Speaker 13: you know, I'm ready to go to the NFL. It's
Speaker 13: a different, different type of grind. You know, when you're
Speaker 13: at the top of your game, you know, everybody's kind
Speaker 13: of looking at you, trying to take a shot at you.
Speaker 13: But when you get to the NFL, it's like I'm
Speaker 13: at the bottom of the total pulls.
Speaker 6: Like grind, great mentality, I'm looking for it.
Speaker 4: Let's pretend not head coach, not ownership, not GM. I'm
Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator in the National Football League and we're
Speaker 4: just in a room watching your tape and I ask
Speaker 4: you this question, why should I draft you? What would
Speaker 4: be your answer?
Speaker 13: I'm just a different dude man like ten A lot
Speaker 13: of teams you haven't really seen a dude come through
Speaker 13: the NFL like me. It's a lot of great players
Speaker 13: that came to the NFL, but six three, two twenty
Speaker 13: play at two twenty five, four to three. Just not
Speaker 13: a lot of dudes like me. I'm a real Swiss
Speaker 13: army knife. You pick me on your defense. Draft me,
Speaker 13: your defense will improve, like guarantee.
Speaker 4: I believe it.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Doesn't he look like a decordinator too? With the glasses down.
Speaker 2: He's my son. Talk to me about your defense.
Speaker 3: We have a tweet I guess from Derwin James about
Speaker 3: your workout when you're at the combine, Kyle to your
Speaker 3: point there it is, yes, sir?
Speaker 2: Is that your friend?
Speaker 10: Now? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Darrel, My god, man. I met him a couple of times.
Speaker 13: We're in the same agency, so I met a couple Tom's.
Speaker 13: You know, well, he's a great dude, great energy. A
Speaker 13: lot of people prepare us like personality wise.
Speaker 5: So nowin is just ask him. He's real nice and Madden.
Speaker 5: You got any game?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I heard, I heard you got some game of mat.
Speaker 8: But I'm not. I'm a decently mat. I'm not the best.
Speaker 2: Don't worry for four three road jump for the forty
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Nick, We're gonna have actually derwin on I think next
Speaker 3: week on.
Speaker 10: So we're gonna play this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna play it.
Speaker 6: Look at the camera and say what's up?
Speaker 3: Thank you and murry everybody out of South Carolina. But
Speaker 3: you're gonna hear his name fifty days from now.
Speaker 2: Well done.
Speaker 1: Next draft, nice man, I.
Speaker 2: Draft this man. He will jump out of the gym courty.
Speaker 6: Damn. You can't play in the doors with a hold
Speaker 6: of the sil.
Speaker 3: Good morning football, busy, busy day on g m FB.
Speaker 2: We got prospects coming through. We got a Joe Tooney
Speaker 2: trade to Chicago.
Speaker 3: Let's bring in our red a GM Scott Pioli for
Speaker 3: a front office point of view ahead of free agency, Scott,
Speaker 3: we know where you are at least, so that's one
Speaker 3: of the dead giveaways. I see you're at Syracuse. But
Speaker 3: let's right head right into free agency next week. Quarterback
Speaker 3: conversation that's going to happen in Minnesota. What would you
Speaker 3: do with Sam Donald if you were a GM there.
Speaker 11: Well, it's clear what the Vikings decided to do is
Speaker 11: not to give him the franchise tag, and that franchise
Speaker 11: tag is always a very very expensive insurance policy for
Speaker 11: lack of a better term.
Speaker 10: So I think that they're headed down the right path.
Speaker 11: What I think what the Vikings know is last year
Speaker 11: they got a third round compensatory pick. So if they
Speaker 11: tried to sign him to our give him the franchise
Speaker 11: tag and then try to trade him, it puts the
Speaker 11: number at a number that contract it's a little bit
Speaker 11: more difficult to trade.
Speaker 10: So now they're going to let the player go out there.
Speaker 11: If it signs that someone else, they'll probably get a
Speaker 11: third fourth pick something that they would get. But for
Speaker 11: Sam Donald, this is really interesting because you know a
Speaker 11: lot of people are about awaiting his performance and who
Speaker 11: he is based on the last two games last year,
Speaker 11: which we're not good, not his best football, But if
Speaker 11: you look at his body of work versus what the
Speaker 11: other options are, and you've got certain teams out there
Speaker 11: that desperately needed quarterback, this is going to work out
Speaker 11: well for Sam Darnold because he could always go.
Speaker 3: Back worn understand what they did, why they did.
Speaker 2: It, got the office.
Speaker 10: Free agency getting rewarded.
Speaker 2: That giveaways.
Speaker 4: I see your question about the combine and rebelluate, so
Speaker 4: I know you guys very intense.
Speaker 2: What would you do with Sam after the combine?
Speaker 14: After the performances changed, the board change from you don't
Speaker 14: have to market always with tears, which pretty much in
Speaker 14: the stone went to the combine because our thought process
Speaker 14: was right.
Speaker 11: There's last year January or January initory in the times
Speaker 11: that they try to him down on the information you
Speaker 11: didn't have thetack and.
Speaker 10: Try to because the combine has the value. The numbers.
Speaker 11: You want to see that number players prepared, Are they prepared,
Speaker 11: what kind of shape the in You want to get
Speaker 11: into idea, what they're eating, what their numbers are, what
Speaker 11: they're getting. Third, but yeah, would pick something going to
Speaker 11: high players to play football. So it's really the board
Speaker 11: a little bit a lot of people evaluating he plays it,
Speaker 11: move arm its stuff he is. It's not the last games,
Speaker 11: but the teams draft the best particulately except their before
Speaker 11: the combintions are understanding and knowing that they're going to
Speaker 11: get that information that makes an inside work which.
Speaker 10: Player from down and there, or that they're going.
Speaker 11: To get back personal information that's don't work least four months.
Speaker 10: Of Minnesota more understanding the players that they didn't want to.
Speaker 11: They start chanting, you're going too much based on the
Speaker 11: things that was they don't have good average player can
Speaker 11: really getting that?
Speaker 7: Or you're coming to us from Syracuse right now. I
Speaker 7: heard you're going to be speaking to some students today.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to be there. I'm wondering, but knowledge.
Speaker 4: You're going to know that guys, But you know it's
Speaker 4: it's really cool.
Speaker 11: This this is my second a model my owner forms
Speaker 11: at the Central Connecticut States and I went to your
Speaker 11: assistant coach, well, you.
Speaker 10: Know, on a hundred years ago under first and they
Speaker 10: bring me back every once around.
Speaker 11: Yes, much in the day when the student went from
Speaker 11: the process was and then today I'm spending the day
Speaker 11: at the new house.
Speaker 10: As you can see anywhary, which is where I got
Speaker 10: my master in the time of the draft.
Speaker 11: Which and during town about instormation that you have the
Speaker 11: football and because there's a lot of people that yeah,
Speaker 11: more than the media now, but you all know there's
Speaker 11: portrayer infatial here. I just come out and and you know,
Speaker 11: worked this on what they're sure going to be spend
Speaker 11: with students. Last night I spend time also why to
Speaker 11: hire players. It's actually I learned as much more long
Speaker 11: trips than these visits. And then tomorrow I'll be spending
Speaker 11: time with Fran Brown, the head football coach, John Wild.
Speaker 11: I think some of the people the show consistently of
Speaker 11: the athletic director and uh, getting to know some of
Speaker 11: the studentding and knowing that my journey has been and
Speaker 11: from going to yes, I gotta tell you what you
Speaker 11: trying to keep it together right now, but they're going to.
Speaker 10: Get came on and I got a text. He is
Speaker 10: Tim Green, and I don't know if any know who
Speaker 10: Tim Green is.
Speaker 11: The play him is possibly when the storates continued church history,
Speaker 11: he's on the greatest athletes in New York State history
Speaker 11: and continuing a ls right now.
Speaker 6: You're coming to where he is. No idea here, I
Speaker 6: heard today I'm with you. I'm not going to be the.
Speaker 10: End of the day, and he just reached out to
Speaker 10: say hello. Really cool. It's kind of myself an you
Speaker 10: know date.
Speaker 11: Find out he was saved Jim Green are years ago
Speaker 11: University and the special relationships and they bring me back
Speaker 11: to everyone's Tim Green the.
Speaker 2: Day with this really well said, you're under selling status.
Speaker 10: You want to take with us very west all the time.
Speaker 2: We are a residency and we rely on you. Scott feeling.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thanks enlightening conversations and have a
Speaker 2: great if you all.
Speaker 11: Thank you for trained professional here. I just come out and, uh,
Speaker 11: you know, and work this a little bit. So the
Speaker 11: time is going to be spent with students. Last night
Speaker 11: I spent time also with the Wise group and it's
Speaker 11: actually I've learned as much on these trips and these visits.
Speaker 10: And then tomorrow I'll be spending time with Fran Brown.
Speaker 11: Who's the head football coach, and John wild Hackett think
Speaker 11: a friend of some of the people the show, who's
Speaker 11: the athletic director, and just getting to know some of
Speaker 11: the students, share what my journey's been and what's been
Speaker 11: going on.
Speaker 10: But I got to tell you. I'm trying to keep
Speaker 10: it together right now. But right before we came.
Speaker 11: On, I got a text from Tim Green, and I
Speaker 11: don't know if any of you folks know who Tim
Speaker 11: Green is.
Speaker 10: Tim is possibly one of the.
Speaker 11: Greatest football players in Syracuse history, one of the greatest
Speaker 11: athletes in New York State history. And Tim's battling als
Speaker 11: right now and out of nowhere. He had no ideas here.
Speaker 11: Tim can only communicate with als through the machines that
Speaker 11: he has and then technology he has, and he just
Speaker 11: reached out to say hello.
Speaker 10: And it's kind of this moment.
Speaker 11: If any of you do know Tim, or if you
Speaker 11: don't know Tim, please go google him, find out who
Speaker 11: he is, and say a prayer for Tim Green. I
Speaker 11: love Syracuse University all the special relationships that I had,
Speaker 11: which includes me and a guy like Tim Green along
Speaker 11: the way.
Speaker 3: Scott really well said, and I think you're kind of
Speaker 3: under selling your new house Syracuse Mafia status. You communicate
Speaker 3: with us very well all the time. You are a
Speaker 3: resident GM. We rely on you, Scottiely.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Scott.
Speaker 3: Thanks Mamanking for they enlightening conversations and have a great day.
Speaker 10: Thank you for Scott, thank you, welcome back.
Speaker 6: One end the show today, A little tip of the cap.
Speaker 5: I remember many years ago there was a time in
Speaker 5: my life when I would speed home and get home
Speaker 5: as fast as I could so I could catch the
Speaker 5: ESPN afternoon block of Jim Romans burning Around the Horn
Speaker 5: and pardon the interruption.
Speaker 6: It was just fantastic. I absolutely loved that. I know
Speaker 6: I'm not alone.
Speaker 5: Around the Horn is ending its run on ESPN after
Speaker 5: twenty three years on the air, twenty three years and
Speaker 5: thousands of episodes and a lot of really good memories.
Speaker 6: I love that show. I still love that show.
Speaker 5: And I always thought back in the day that it
Speaker 5: was cast almost like a proper sitcom, where there was
Speaker 5: each character, and there was the funny one, and there
Speaker 5: was the angry one, and then there was the silly one.
Speaker 5: And it was just a great, great, a very original show.
Speaker 5: And I have great memories of Bill Plashki and Tim
Speaker 5: kyleishaw Check cracking me up, and Page and Marriotti fighting
Speaker 5: each other in the middle of it. It was this
Speaker 5: really cool thing where Tony Reality, the host of it,
Speaker 5: was seemingly part of this PTI expanded universe where stat
Speaker 5: Boy from PTI got to host the show, and it
Speaker 5: was this really cool thing like anything as possible and
Speaker 5: just a show that really really felt alive and personal
Speaker 5: and creative. From the paper toss to the twenty three
Speaker 5: and a half hour break. The mute buttons were very,
Speaker 5: very funny, and as a fan of the show, I
Speaker 5: used to always imagine myself if I was on it, what.
Speaker 6: Would I use my FaceTime for?
Speaker 5: At the end, I could talk about anything I wanted.
Speaker 5: It's truly original, truly different, and truly successful. So just
Speaker 5: to everybody involved in that show going back to its
Speaker 5: beginnings and every person who's ever appeared on that show,
Speaker 5: as in a personal note, that show inspired me to
Speaker 5: do what I do now in its own way, and
Speaker 5: thank you very much for everything, and congratulations on an incredible,
Speaker 5: incredible run.
Speaker 6: You were really a show that mattered and made a difference.
Speaker 2: Good job, Kyle.
Speaker 3: I can imagine that if you're ready a PN and
Speaker 3: you get invited to go on that ultimate like you
Speaker 3: get to use one of my days at ESPN.
Speaker 2: Tony Reality is the ultimate host. You watch him.
Speaker 3: He commands a room, he's fun he's funny, he's informative.
Speaker 3: Anything he says as a matter of fact, and I
Speaker 3: loved watching it. Kyle, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm ready flashing back right there, getting home from school. Yeah,
Speaker 7: hop pockets in the microwave, around the horn, putting on PTI.
Speaker 7: Though there are some great memories, I still never figured
Speaker 7: out the points.
Speaker 6: The points.
Speaker 10: Explain the figure out.
Speaker 6: How the points.
Speaker 5: But we're all doing the joystick for around the Horn today, Big, big,
Speaker 5: big points.
Speaker 6: Twenty three and a half hour break.
Speaker 2: Really cool,