1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My fiance secretly flew to Paris to visit his ex. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Should I leave him? And this is okay, Op, where 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: we read the craziest true stories on Earth. I'm John 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and Sophia. Do you think, with zero context that OP 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: should leave this relationship? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I do. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I sense a divorce Chant, I think you do. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: I think I think there's a divorce chance coming. It's 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: bubbling up. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I am so ready for this divorce Chant. And actually, 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: this is this is very special because this is the 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: first time that we have excommunicated Sam. 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: From the podcast. Yes, he's gone, just totally placed him. Yes, 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: stole on his face, stole on his podcast. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: You have and we are honestly so glad, we are 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: so happy. Which, by the way, we do have a 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: exclusive okay, story time on a story that Sam is 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: shared against you that we're going to get has he 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: shared it on the pod multiple times? Wait? 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Is this the pod? What is the pod? 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: It's the pod. 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: This is the pod. 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: So you are going to give the hot tea exclusive 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: on your side of the story. Okay, after the story. 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, it's gonna be hot cross. Okay, yeah, of course, 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: are you ready? 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Yes, So this comes from Throwaway Secret Paris. They say 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: fake names. This is a throw away because my fiance 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: is a big Reddit user, perfect place for this story. 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: My fiance, twenty seven female, Eric twenty seven male, has 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: a friend named Jane, twenty somethingter female who lives in Paris. 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: We were introduced to each other through our friends, so 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: we've only met once over video chat. Me and my 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: fiance Eric have been together for over a year and 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a half, and before we got together, he and his 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: ex Jane were involved. 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay, suspicious, we know they were still dating. 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: They were dating at the same suspicious suspicious, We don't know. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: He told me it ended badly, but they did get 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: over it. I don't know exactly what happened. I've never asked. 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: She is really important to him. They do talk once 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: or twice a month over text or video chat, and 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: I know that they have a lot in common. I 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: don't know jane situation, but Eric's parents were abusive and 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: I've pieced together that Jane's were as well. I've never 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: gotten the impression that either one of them wants to 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: go back to how it was, and he's never given 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: me a reason to be insecure until now, I have 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: to throw a quick, a little red flag flag on 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: the play, Sophia, do you think it's a red flag 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: if they're in regular, monthly contact with their ex. 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of tricky. 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: I feel like it. 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of towing the line because 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: if they have like a past, a history of you know, 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: parent parental problems, maybe it's just helpful. 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: But yes, I don't know, because if you think about 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: if they had a kid together, yeah, will be totally 58 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: normal for them to be in contact. So there are 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: things that like make it totally normal to be in 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: contact with an X. But I guess outside of kids, 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: that's where it really gets like it's. 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: Like trauma bonding low key. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeaheah. 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: So it seems like they're both like his ex is 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: still important, but I don't know. But it also op 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem uncomfortable with it. 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: So that's true until now, Yeah, until now. Yeah, he 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: asked me to marry him three weeks ago, and I said. 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Yes, ah, congratulations. 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: I was really excited to marry him. But then suddenly 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: a few days ago, he announced that he needed to 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: go visit family, which was weird because he cut his 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: family off several years ago. Let me visit my executi 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: gut another red flag. M He has expressed to me 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: that he has no interest in seeing them again. He 76 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: said that it was an important family emergent and see 77 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: and then he just left. He kept me updated and 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: we talked a few times on the phone. He told 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: me that his mom was having health issues. I had 80 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: no reason to be suspicious. Quick edit. I'm reading that 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: over and it sounds weird. But he's always been very 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: touchy when it comes to talking about his family, and 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want to push it. But then a couple 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: of hours ago, I got a message from his ex Jane, 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: asking if Eric was okay. I said that he was 86 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: visiting family, so he was probably just a bit stressed out, 87 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: which is why he wasn't responding to her messages. She 88 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: then informed me that he is in Paris. 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, chocol How could he oh. 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: O ooh in Paris with her? 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: Wait? Why did she text the girlfriend? Then? 92 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Ope? Maybe because like she was like, oh, hey, we've 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: been together. Did you know now he's gone? You know 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like he appeared from me in Paris? 95 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: Where is he at he's at the Eiffel Tower, and 96 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: maybe he's visiting the sites. 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: He might be visiting the wrong sites. The site he 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: should be visiting is his fiance. 99 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: At their wedding, at their wedding on the aisle there, 100 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: but he's. 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Taking in some other views, it looks like right now, 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: and she snuck a photo of him in her apartment. Okay, 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: so she's got receipts. 104 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: It feels like she's setting him up. Yeah, right, so 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: she's like, I just saw your boyfriend in Paris. He's 106 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: with me right now. 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: I hired a private investigator to find out the clue. 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I haven't replied to her just yet. I am freaking out. 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea what to do. He just got 110 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: on a plane to fly for twelve hours to see 111 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: her without telling me, presumably last minute. Why is he there? 112 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Do I talk to him? Has anyone else ever been 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: in this kind of situation? So we have some relevant 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: comments okay, and a juicy update. Oh I love a 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: juicy up date coming up. But we have to take 116 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: a pause right here. Uh what should hope you do? Yeah? 117 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: I think they have to talk. I think they asked 118 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: to partner because like maybe something came up with his 119 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: mom and then he needed to like talk. 120 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know she had she had an emergency Paris. 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: I hate to taste the finest baggetts in all of Palis, 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: and she really needed. 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: To go to Paris and he would just happen to 124 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: be there. And then he was like, Hey, my ex 125 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: is here, might go visit her. 126 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, I think I have a tinfoil hat moment. Okay, 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: let's put on our guys, which, by the way, they're incredible. 128 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: Please within the comments below that how much you love 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: these because you know you love them? 130 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: And crafty? 131 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: Yes, so what if? Okay, okay, big moonshot here. He 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: is going to Paris to plan the weddings in Paris. 133 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: It's going to be a big surprise, beautiful and he 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: needs he needs not just a woman to consult him, 135 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a woman who he knows well, who knows him well, 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: to help plan the perfect wedding. 137 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: Could be? 138 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Could it be possible? 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: It could be? And his mom is there. 140 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Too, in reason he cut off years ago. 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: He's rekindling the relationship in Paris with his mom. 142 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and not his ex, not his ex, not his 143 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: ex or maybe and his ex to help everyone's planning 144 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: the wedding. Everyone he called the avengers of his life planner, 145 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the avengers of women in his life to plan a 146 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: surprise Paris wedding for it hiss fiance. Yes, I mean 147 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: it's it's possible. 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: It could be. 149 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: We have seen crazy things on the show, but we 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: also have the sad, true, hold, cold hard facts of 151 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: literally what has been written, yeah, and shared. 152 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: In the story and maybe not so happy. 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: And so I think we have to come go back 154 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: to her from outer space, from our UFOs and uh 155 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: see the sad, cold hard reality that is facing Op 156 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: in the face right now. Some relevant comments, This one 157 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: comes from Goose two hundred and eleven. I mean, good 158 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: for her great name, right, I mean good on her 159 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the ex Jane for telling you. Is she aware that 160 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: you guys are engaged? Now? That is a great question 161 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: because I get the sense she doesn't even know that 162 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: OP is unaware that the fiance is there. Yeah, you 163 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like she does know that She 165 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: has to know that they're engaged if she has and 166 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: is like texting OP. 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Got to be right. Yeah, I think the. 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Question is you post on Instagram or something? 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the big question here is does 170 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Jane know that OP does not know that it is 171 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: not there exactly. So OPI applies, yes, she knows. She 172 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: congratulated us both, and I believe he told her that 173 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: he was going to propose before he did. Wow, Okay, 174 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: so he's even telling her like, hey, I'm planning on. 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: What seems like they're really like they dated and then 176 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: they got really close as friends. Yeah, so maybe it's 177 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: not negative. 178 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Maybe Again, like if you go to the children's situation, 179 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: I think it's very normal for people to co parent 180 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: and have a healthy co parenting relationship, Yeah, to care 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: for their children and just have like the best yeah 182 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: set up possible. So in that environment, I think it's 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: like very possible to have a great relationship like that. 184 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: But outside of that, yeah, I think it's just where 185 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: we get into a little dangerous it is. It's the 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: not telling. 187 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: The grazone we don't know. Yeah, put in the comments 188 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: if you have been in a similar situation before where 189 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: you have a very close relationship with your ex, that's 190 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: not like around there was some other reason other than children. 191 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Turned into friendship. 192 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, something I'm very curious to see. But we have 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: a juicy update. Juicy updates. Let's get into it like that. 194 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: Onto the updates. Thank you for all the comments and advice. 195 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I read every single one and I appreciate all of 196 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: the advice. I'm sorry I'm late for the update, but 197 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: I am extremely tired and haven't really sat down in 198 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: a week and a half. To get to the point, 199 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: we have to guess, is op still in this relationship 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: or not? 201 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: Sophia, Oh, I'm gonna say yes. 202 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: Still in the relationship. 203 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: I think they're I think maybe they're still in the relationship. 204 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: I think they're working it out. 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: I left him, it's over. 206 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Wow. 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: A lot of people were concerned that he'd find the post, 208 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: but I did change a lot of the details. The 209 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: main issue remains the same. The ex Jane lives in 210 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: a foreign country at least twelve hours away, and he 211 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: decided to go to her without telling me. 212 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: That's true. 213 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: I also did see some comments discuss the age gap 214 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: between Eric and his ex Jane. Jane is in her 215 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: late twenties. I said twenties ish because I wasn't sure 216 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: at the time exactly how old she was. After I 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: posted and the comments started rolling in, I had to 218 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: shut my phone off. There were many people saying that 219 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Eric wanted to be with Jane, that he wasn't over her, 220 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: and I started having a panic attack. Ah yeah, that's like, 221 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: imagine you're like your deepest insecurity and you have hundreds 222 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: of strangers commenting to basically confirm that that's awful. I'm sorry, terrible. 223 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: How old is OPI's ex fiance. 224 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Both twenty seven? Oh? Both the age that so the 225 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: age gap was the ex Jane in her late twenty 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: in her late twenties. 227 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: Earlier, she thought that she was like in her early 228 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: late twenties. 229 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I thought there, so they're all the 230 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: same age. But yeah, I am not an insecure person usually, 231 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: and Eric had given me absolutely no reason to be. 232 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: But this whole thing, I felt very stupid and like 233 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: i'd been blind. Oh I know, right. He was always 234 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: very open about his friendship with Jane and how much 235 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: she meant to him, But there's absolutely nothing that made 236 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: me think that he still had feelings for her. Honestly, 237 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: even if he told me he wanted to go visit 238 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: her without me, I'd probably have said this was fine, 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: as long as I go on my own vacation. 240 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 241 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, but anyways, I got Jane on the phone 242 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: the next day. 243 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she called Jane up. 244 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Her story is that he just showed up at her door, 245 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: claiming that he missed her and he just needed to 246 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote get. 247 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: Away no from his fiance. Oh my goodness, Yeah, babe, I. 248 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Just I just needed a second to like clear my 249 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: head so I could be like so clear for my 250 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: my love for you, babe, Like I just needed I 251 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: just needed, you know, one time of seeing her, you know, 252 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: just like being there, you know, smelling her beautiful French sense. 253 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: I just needed to be in Paris, yeah, with you, 254 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: you know, my fiance exactly. 255 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna work, babe. This is like so good for 256 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: our relationship. You don't even know how great is. 257 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: This is the plot of Midnight in Paris. It is yeah, 258 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: well kind of not really. 259 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: It's a common thing that I don't see I don't 260 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: know movies. 261 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: It actually is kind of the plot of Midnight in 262 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: Paris because he goes to Paris but with his fiance 263 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: and then he like meets, yeah, he like meets. He 264 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: goes back in the past and stuff and meets this 265 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: girl and he's like, oh my god, she's a perfect girl, 266 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: and then basically like cheats on his fiance and then 267 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: they end up breaking up. But yeah, whoa in the 268 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: with Owen Wilson. 269 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, and. 270 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: What's her face? Reese Witherspoonah is the fiance? You should 271 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: watch this movie? 272 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: Never seen it? 273 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool. 274 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. 275 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 276 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: Never seen a movie. 277 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, never ever seen a movie? 278 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: He never watched his movie. 279 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: Keep John in a little room. 280 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: And I am locked in this Yeah. 281 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: John's actually it's not allowed to leave this room. 282 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: I am just locked in this purple like blues clues 283 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: of Reddit stories. Yeah, cage and must produce content. Yeah 284 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: at all times. 285 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, anyway, back to the content. 286 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Back to the story. Jane provided proof that she had 287 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: no idea he was coming. Okay, that's actually pretty sounds 288 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool, sounds like a real one, And I have 289 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: no reason not to believe her When she tells me 290 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: that nothing happened. I think she was angrier than I was. 291 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: At the same time. She figured that something really bad 292 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: must have happened, either with me or his family. She 293 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: knew from past experiences it was better to just let 294 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: him talk when he was ready rather than pushing it. 295 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: So we're going to take a break right here. Do 296 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: we think that the ex Jane is innocent? I think 297 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: so yeah. 298 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: I think she's well. I think she's been in like 299 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: regular contact with Opie. She's like the second that he 300 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: showed up, she was like, Hey, is something going on? 301 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 302 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: And I feel like you wouldn't text, Like you wouldn't text. 303 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: The person like if you saw if you were trying, 304 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: if you were trying to sneaky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because 305 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it. But I think you're right. 306 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: My initial thought was a text with the text was 307 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: oh he's here. He of course told you, and I 308 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen him like today or whatever. But I think 309 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: you're right. He just showed up. Yeah, And she was like, hey, 310 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: is everything okay? Because he just showed up at my door, 311 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: which is which is even better? Yeah, like that even 312 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: more is in her favor. I think so too. It 313 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: seems like because think about it from her perspective too. 314 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: They live countries apart. She's probably like, I want to 315 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: move You were engaged, Yeah, I want to move on 316 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: with my life. 317 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. They had a messy breakup. 318 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: I had a messy breakup. They do have regular context. 319 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I'd imagine it's something they have to be pretty like 320 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: hopefully have like very strict and clear boundaries around. And 321 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: she's like, Yo, you're kind of breaking all the boundaries 322 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: right now by showing up unannounced, Like. 323 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: That's insane to come to Paris like twelve or what 324 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: is it, twelve fourteen hour flight. 325 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: Probably over one thousand, well over one thousand dollars maybe over. 326 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Two thousand, expecting to stay with her. 327 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Shows up at her door. He I mean, everything is 328 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: looking good for Jane, not good for Eric. 329 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jane's cool. 330 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, take that. Eric's the story. So the ex 331 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: Jane gave it two days, during which he was behaving 332 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: very impulsively, kept spacing out, and he brought up their 333 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: past multiple times. They hadn't seriously spoken about it since 334 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: it ended years ago. He's usually the calmer, more level 335 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: headed of the two of them, so this behavior was 336 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: extremely out of character. Finally, she decided to text me 337 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: to see if I knew if anything was going on. 338 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: So it looks like after the two days is when. 339 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: She reached day. 340 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: So he was staying with her for two days. 341 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: That is a great question. Riley producer bro Riley Big Protein. 342 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Do we know if that's the case, if Eric was 343 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: in fact saying with Jane the X oh, I don't. 344 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't think. 345 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: It's not clear. 346 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: She just went to her apartment, but I don't think. 347 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it possibly, Yeah, could be. 348 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Because with her track record, I don't think she would 349 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: allow that. 350 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Yes that ye. 351 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, I feel like because when I 352 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: I just came back from traveling and I would just 353 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: like hit people up, you know who I even if 354 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know them that well, like you know, friends 355 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: and family, I'd be like, hey, can I stay with you? 356 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: Because you know that's truly is expensive. So usually even 357 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: if you're not you know, but did. 358 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Your ex who's engaged to be married? 359 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: That's true? 360 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: Sure, No, they did not come on you. You don't 361 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: have Eric the fiance, not door or vice versa. 362 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 363 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe she said you're not allowed to stay here, 364 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: go stay at the Marriotte. 365 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's unclear, but we'll see if we can find out. Finally, 366 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: she decided to text me to see if I knew 367 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: of anything. After I told her that he was with 368 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: his family. She put it together pretty quick that I 369 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: had no idea where he was ouch and then she 370 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: confronted him about it. 371 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: Oh cool. 372 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: They got into a massive fight that lasted for hours, 373 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: and she eventually told him to leave. Okay, So that 374 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: sounds even more like, Yeah, she didn't really tell me 375 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: what the fight was about, just that she yelled at 376 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: him for not telling me. But after talking to him, 377 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: I've got a hunch. Me and Jane talked for a 378 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: long time. Both of us were crying by the end 379 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: of it. I think this whole thing opened up some wounds. 380 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: She told me their history, a lot of which really 381 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: surprised me, like how they weren't even really boyfriend and girlfriend, 382 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: and that he's the one who ended it. He'd always 383 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: given me the impression that it was bad but ultimately 384 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: a mutual breakup. It was just a really toxic situation 385 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: for both of them, and it took them a long 386 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: time to get back to being actual friends afterwards. Which 387 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: brings me to my conversation with Eric don dream team 388 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: over here. Who needs a Sam not Us raise of 389 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: the video You're Fired? He showed up after a few 390 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: days after I had talked with Jane, So sounds like 391 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: he's a He's crawling back back to the old us 392 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: of A or wherever they're from, showed up jet lags. 393 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he brought some like chocolate from Paris. 394 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: I got you all your favorite chocolates, Babe. I am 395 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: going to make this relationship so much better. 396 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Baby. 397 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't make a back yet. 398 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: I found myself in Paris. I found it and I 399 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: took one of those cooking classes where they teach you 400 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: how to make a little Yeah, and I'm gonna do 401 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: that for you. 402 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: It's going to be delicious like a relationship and our 403 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: life together forever. 404 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 405 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't need Jane. That Jane was one time. 406 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: Who's he? I don't even know a Jane. 407 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Who's Who's Jane? 408 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: Jane? 409 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: Who Jane Fonda? 410 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: Jane like virgin What? 411 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: No, I don't know a Jane. I've never never even 412 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: heard of one. Chocolate. 413 00:19:59,040 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: No, you've been fired. 414 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: You've been fired. 415 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: Get out of. 416 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: Here, okay, versus security escort him out. Oh there we go. 417 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: The podcast just got so much better. Okay, back to 418 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the story. I had packed up and left to a 419 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: friend's house. At that point he came over to talk. 420 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: My friend was in the place the whole time. 421 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: That's good. 422 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: Good friend, good friend, good friend. 423 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Wait did she know that the friend was there? Did 424 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: he know that the friend was there? Because sometimes like 425 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: girls break up with guys and like the girlfriend would 426 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: be in the back of the car hiding. What if 427 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: it was that situation? 428 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: What, yeah, break break that down for me A little bit. 429 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: Car and there's a girl in the. 430 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: There's a girl in a car. 431 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: Girl. 432 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's what she. 433 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: Waiting for him, like outside, you mean. 434 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 3: Like he like if me and you were breaking up 435 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: and Sophia was there for me. 436 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: Sofia was in the closet and like like she was 437 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: staking out to gather intel. 438 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have I'm recording you. 439 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 3: If you would so few was there, you probably wouldn't 440 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: say a lot of nasty things to me. 441 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, So then she gets old a steak out. 442 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: That was a situation. 443 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: That's a we need to get you a one of those. Okay, 444 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: it's too late, your moment is gone. 445 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: Imagine that hat, pretend that it's there. 446 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: Just pretend everyone everyone have. 447 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: A conspiracy theory that there is a hat on. 448 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Yes, well, if we all believe it. 449 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: Wearing a tin boil hat. 450 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: Then it will become true. So we ended up talking 451 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: for a while. I asked him a hundred questions and 452 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: he answered about five of them. He said, He said 453 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: that he was very sorry that he can't provide an 454 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: actual explanation for what he did because he himself does 455 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: not understand why. I said that wasn't good enough and 456 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: I needed him to tell me what happened. He said 457 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: he couldn't, But I won't understand. 458 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: What cop out? 459 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Babe, Babe, you just you just can't wrap your bread 460 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: around my brain. Like, Babe, my thoughts are like so complex, 461 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm so deep, and like, you don't understand me. 462 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: Twenty Jane Harris. 463 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: So mich understood, Babe. Jane's the only one that understands 464 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: my big freaking brain. 465 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: I have so much pain. 466 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm babe. I'm going to become a singer songwriter and 467 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: live on the streets of France until I just hit 468 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: it big. 469 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: With I'm going to become a SoundCloud rapper, yeah, and 470 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: talk about Paris name. 471 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: I love Jane and not my fiance. That's my rapper name, babe, handle, 472 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: but I still love you. Oh my god. I suggested 473 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: couple's therapy for us. He's been doing it individually, since 474 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: before I met him, but he said he didn't want to. 475 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: He just wants to forget that anything happened, typerfect typical. 476 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: The positive explanation I have is that he had some 477 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: kind of freak out after we got engaged, which is 478 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: a pretty I think it's a pretty good theory right there. 479 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: Or maybe something did happen with his parents and he 480 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: couldn't talk to me about it, hence him seeing Jane, 481 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: I guess, which is fine. I don't necessarily think that 482 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: if someone is struggling, the first person they should always 483 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: go talk to about it is their partner. I'm totally 484 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: fine with him going to Jane if he was freaking 485 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: out over the prospect of us getting married, or if 486 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: he did hear something about his mom. Obviously, don't fly 487 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: to another country and lie about it. But that goes 488 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: without saying Jane could probably understand that better than I 489 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: could and would know what to say. But he can't 490 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: even talk to me about it now, nor is he 491 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: making an effort. So how does that bode well? Not well. 492 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: I would say he just wants to pretend that everything 493 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: is fine and normal, and I just can't do that. 494 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: On top of all of that, up until now. He's 495 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: never been secretive about how he feels or what he's thinking, 496 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: or about his history. He hates talking about it and 497 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: is touchy about people asking a lot of questions about it. 498 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: But he's always told me the stuff that I ask him. 499 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: I think if he was panicking over getting married or 500 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: if something actually happened with his mom, he would tell 501 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: me I can't help myself and asked if it was 502 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: because he just doesn't want to talk about the fact 503 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: that he wants to be with Jane and regrets how 504 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: he treated her. 505 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, she was direct. She was, Oh, we really 506 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: got to the point, and I love you for that. 507 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. He denied that, but I think I 508 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: hit a nerve. We see you. 509 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: You don't go to Paris for the vibes. 510 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: He was trying to offer you his that game if 511 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: you picking up when I'm putting down, and it was 512 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: not fresh baked. 513 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Riley, are you looking for the wait? 514 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: He claimed that he doesn't have any leftover feelings for 515 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: her other than the fact that she's a big what if. 516 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: That's it. He said that, yeah, that's all. That's all. 517 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: She's just a big what if. It was fun that's 518 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: all there is. 519 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: This is not the movie What If with Daniel Radcliffe. 520 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not, which John doesn't know because John's 521 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: never seen a movie. 522 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: I've never seen a movie. 523 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: Give John some movie rec. 524 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: Show me, but I won't watch them because I refuse. 525 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: And we keep them in a room. 526 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, I'm locked in here. Yeah, it is what 527 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: it is. She is important to him, but she is 528 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: the past and I am the future. 529 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: So true. 530 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Right This may just be my fear talking, But what 531 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: if this whole time, he's been using me to try 532 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: to make Jane jealous because he's realized that he lost her. 533 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Now that is a great conspiracy right there. I think 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: he went there to see her because he's realized he 535 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: still wants her and she's been living her life without him, 536 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: no problem. In Paris, in Paris, of all places, the 537 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: city of romance, she's living life, which I actually also 538 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: have a okay story time about romance in the city 539 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: of Paris. 540 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: I was also just in Paris that is true romances 541 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: what Tians? 542 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: What Tians? No romance, but still parisfied, So we'll get 543 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: to that after the story. I think that's what they 544 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: thought about. I think he went there to see her 545 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: because he's realized that he still wants her and she's 546 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: been off living her life without him. No problem. It's 547 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: bad enough that this is the case. But if I 548 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: take him back, what if she changes her mind. I 549 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: don't have a reason to believe that she'll change her mind. 550 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: She doesn't talk about him the way that I talk 551 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: about someone I'm romantically interested in, and now that I 552 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: know that their history, I wouldn't want him back either, 553 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: But who knows. After our conversation, it's obvious that he's 554 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent certain that he wants to build 555 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: a life with me, and he's not willing to do 556 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: what it takes to fix this. I'm not worth the work. 557 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: He won't even try, and that's basically the big issue 558 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: for me. I can't build a life with someone that 559 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: won't put in the effort, so I don't want to 560 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: be with him. I told him to leave, and he 561 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: left without a fight. I've blocked him on everything. I've 562 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: talked to Jane a few times since then, and they 563 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: have spoken. She told me that he's probably going to 564 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: take some time off work and just figure stuff out. 565 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: I hope he can get some help. Plus I know 566 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: it sounds utterly bizarre, but I think I've actually gained 567 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: a new friend in her. Yay, that is actually kind 568 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: of We love the unexpected friendship. 569 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: I just hope. 570 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: I was hoping that was gonna be the low key, 571 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: wholesome turnaround. 572 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: I love that because Jane seems really cool and she 573 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: seems like she's looking out for OP and OPI, you 574 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: are worth the work, yes, and. 575 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: Eric and Eric? Eric is not worth the work. Eric, 576 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: he is terrible. He is worth no work. Yeah, he 577 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: is workless. 578 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: Oh poor Eric. 579 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: No, who cares? 580 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: Eric? You need to go to therapy. 581 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: Yes, we already isn't therapy, but he refused to do 582 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: individual couple therapy, which is so odd because. 583 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: Eric doesn't want to put in the work. 584 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's it's clear. 585 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, you deserve someone who will put in 586 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: the work. 587 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: You're a queen who deserves for role top and I 588 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: love you. I said what I said. Jane has checked 589 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: in on me multiple times and even helped put me 590 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: in touch with a new place to live that I 591 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: just moved into. Wow. Now that is above and beyond Wow. 592 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Jane the friend OPI, you should move. 593 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: To Paris and just hang out with Jane all the time. 594 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: Big plot twists, Op and Jane get together to. 595 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: Get married Mary Jane Jane dump Eric. 596 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Yes, that is the move. I am really tired. 597 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh me too. 598 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: It's been a really horrible and busy time. Thanks for 599 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: the support and the advice. I'm glad that I found 600 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: out now before we started seriously planning, or worse, after 601 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: we got married or had children. If I find out 602 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: anything more, I will update on my profile if anyone 603 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: has any advice on how to deal with the embarrassment 604 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: or good ice cream flavors to get through this pain. 605 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Now we do have some relevant comments to finish us off. 606 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: But I think the question right here for everybody watching 607 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: and for you, Sophia, did ope make the right decision? 608 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: I think absolutely. I think the whole relationship, she was 609 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: so trusting and then like I don't think it was 610 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: like she gave him a chance to explain and he 611 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: didn't even try, Like he didn't even want to talk 612 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: to her about it. And I feel like there are 613 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: moments when you're like, oh, like you're going through something, yeah, 614 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: and you can't talk about it yet. Yeah, so you 615 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: can let her, you can be like, yeah, I'm sorry, 616 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: I can't talk to. 617 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: You about I'm working through something right now. 618 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: And working through something totally, but like going to Paris 619 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: and lying about it. 620 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: That's a little too far and just telling you just 621 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: just forget about it. 622 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should say it exactly, just saying like, oh, 623 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: let's just go back to normal life. 624 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: No you can't, you can't. You can't do that. But 625 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: we have some relevant comments to close us out here. 626 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: Winter Front one four three one says it definitely sounds 627 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: like he was trying his luck with Jane. Maybe he 628 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: thought he could get something to happen and then come 629 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: back and either have it gotten out of the way 630 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: or leave you for her. Don't wait around for him, 631 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: keep him blocked. Opie says, I think it's pretty funny 632 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: that he seems to have thought that the woman who 633 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: has moved to a foreign country has been sitting around 634 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: for the past few years just waiting for him to 635 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: wonder her. Yeah, yeah, you're not that special, Eric, Only 636 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: O P and Jane are. 637 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like Jane's actively texting Opie and dishing the deets. 638 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: She don't care about you. She doesn't care. Sorry, I'm 639 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: thinking about you. 640 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: Incognito land Shark says another great username, that's a great 641 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: I love that right. I'm so sorry for what he 642 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: put you both through. And Jane threw and if he 643 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: isn't counseling like he stated, it's not working because this 644 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: shows he has some deep, unresolved issues and he thinks 645 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: he can be fixed with the right partner. Jane is 646 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: a good person. I wish well to the both of you, 647 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: OPI says, no, seriously, she is my hero. Yes, and 648 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: I genuinely hope that he gets the help that he needs. Yeah. 649 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't want him to be miserable for forever. He 650 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: was a good partner until all of this. My experience 651 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: with him doesn't match up all that much with Jane's 652 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: experience with him. 653 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: Op, You're so nice. 654 00:31:53,880 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: You are okay, queen Okay. Good Gravy Wonderland Heart, another 655 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: great username, says, I do think that he's got some 656 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: unresolved issues, but it sounds more like he's taking some 657 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: form of drug. If he has no history of manic breakdowns, 658 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: not acting himself and jumping from topic to topic with 659 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: Jane sounds like a mania episode or drug involvement. OP 660 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: says he doesn't have any history of manic breakdowns. That 661 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I know of, but he does have significant mental health issues. 662 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: These come with their moments. But up until now, it's 663 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: always been the I'm going to stuff down my feelings 664 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: because then they don't exist kind more than the I'm 665 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna do something crazy kind. But from what I've always seen, 666 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: he's managed it pretty well. It could have been a 667 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: manic episode. I definitely think he panicked over something. I 668 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: don't know about drugs. I really hope it's not. 669 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we don't have any proof of it. 670 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: We don't have any evidence, but it is a pretty 671 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: drastic thing, yeah, to do. 672 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: But they were about to get married, which is a 673 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: big life change, yes, which isn't saying when he did 674 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 2: write at all. 675 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, it. 676 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: Could have been like he had his own. 677 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: Problems, you know, the classic like cold feet or whatever, 678 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: the pre wedding jitters, and then he kind of just 679 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: freaked out from that and did it. Who knows. But 680 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: one thing we do want to know is the okay 681 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: story time where we dish on Sam is the time 682 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: it is okay story time. So basically the story that 683 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: we have heard from from Sam's point. 684 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Of view, what's his point of view on this? 685 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: The defendant says, uh, and I'm gonna butcher a little bit. 686 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: But there was basically an incident with him Christian who 687 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: lives in the Christian there Okay, a state's house. They 688 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: were doing some sort of mentos in a bottle type 689 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: experiment and they were just having fun and joshing around, 690 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: and I think it was something to the effect of you, 691 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, waddled in the way of it and it 692 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: released either either they unintentionally or intentionally or from Sam's 693 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: point of view, completely unintentionally, and you kind of like 694 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: approached it in a way that caused you to catch 695 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: the mento's bottle in the face. 696 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: Oh, he's really dramatizing this something. 697 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: Along those lines. And then that that you two have 698 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: basically had conflicting uh versions of the story. 699 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Tell us yourself, Okay, this is the story. Set the scene. 700 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: I'm I think I was twelve, Okay. My friends were over. 701 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: We were having a little sewing club moment, uh, and 702 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: we were all in the front yard. So we were 703 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: in the garage a little sewing like with the garage 704 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: door open, and Sam Krishn are doing the little mentos 705 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: in the coke bottle kind of thing. 706 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: Classic like girl activities and activity is going on here. 707 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we wandered over because we're like, oh, 708 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: that sounds fun. And so Sam puts the mentos in 709 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: the coke bottle and then like throws it and it 710 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: goes in the street. And so I see a car 711 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 2: coming and I'm like, well, if that mentos bottle goes off, 712 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: it's going to like, you know, be loud. And I'm like, 713 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: if a car goes past that, I was worried that 714 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 2: it would like be a loud noise and they would 715 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: you know, freak out in the car. And I was like, 716 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: that's dangerous. And so I was thinking, I was twelve, 717 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 2: so give me a little carus. I was thinking I'm 718 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 2: gonna grab it really quickly and then just throw it 719 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: further away, like back towards our house, right so that 720 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 2: you know it's not in the street. And so when 721 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: that I went to do that, it like exploded, but 722 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: not in my face. I was fine, it's just like 723 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, loud ringing in my ears. 724 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, So it didn't like story, It didn't like launch, 725 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: no fully just explode Yeah. Yeah near you. 726 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: I was holding it, you were I was holding it. 727 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: Wow. 728 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: I didn't get hurt or anything. It just like hurt 729 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: my ears, okay, yeah, because it was really loud, and 730 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: I was like, if a car is passing that, that's dangerous. 731 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: So here, okay, I think I'm getting to the crux 732 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: of the disagreement. Did you ever like go to your 733 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: parents or be like oh, Sam like attacked me with 734 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: this bottle or. 735 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: Like anything like No, my mom was there. She was 736 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: in the garage and she was like, oh man, I 737 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: was like on the floor. I'm like ah, and she's 738 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 2: like what's going on? 739 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: And so yeah, okay, okay, okay, blame him right right. 740 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: He just insinuates that I like was like, oh, bottle 741 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: and I picked it up, which is not true. I 742 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 2: had a plan, okay, trying to save. 743 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: A car, Okay, I think because like I'm like struggling 744 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: to remember his full version of it. 745 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: No, that's how he tells it. 746 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's the His thing is like 747 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: you were like, oh, do let me just go pick 748 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: up this right in the bottle, whereas you were like, 749 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: I have a plan to rescue this car and everyone 750 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: in it. 751 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: And maybe I didn't need to do that, But again, 752 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: I was twelve, and I was like oh, this is dangerous. 753 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: I should move it away. 754 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: You You picked up the mantle where no, no Sam 755 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: would there were no Sam's present, trying to save his head, 756 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah, So I think we've gotten to 757 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of it. I think Sam is the whole 758 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: thank you. 759 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I've waited years for it. 760 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: A whole a hole. But I also have an okay 761 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: story time. We were talking about Peli and love being 762 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: in the air. I love in Za. So I was 763 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. I was probably, well, let me tell 764 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: the story. Okay, So, yeah, my. 765 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: Goodness, you in San Francisco. 766 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco. 767 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: Does have a track where we live? He doesn't know 768 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: where he's at. 769 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: And I was probably right these age like twenty two. 770 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: I had met this friend in the Bay when I 771 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: was like eighteen, and I moved back to the Bay 772 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: and we started hanging out. She was working at Zinga, 773 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, let me give you a whole 774 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: tour of Zinga. Like her office it's like a remember 775 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: like Farmville on Facebook These damn kids, It's like a 776 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: Facebook game. Basically, Zinga was like Facebook Games. That was like, 777 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: there's like a gaming company for sure, and Riley will 778 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: Riley will give what else did they do? 779 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 780 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go, yeahs and bells. So she was 781 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: working there. She gave me hold to her. Yeah was friends. 782 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: I love Yeah, I love words with friends. 783 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: Maybe. Oh yeah, that's that was a classic. 784 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: Besides the point, besides the point, you were staying with 785 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: a friend. 786 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: I I was. 787 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco. She showed me her office, 788 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: and we had been friends, you know, at this point 789 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: rekindling our friendship. 790 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 2: Sure. 791 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: I was like, she seems cool and cute and interested. 792 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: And she invited me to your office. 793 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: Let me do you do your office? 794 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: Let me invite her to dinner. And I asked my 795 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: my bestie at work, Lindsay. I was like, girl, give 796 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: me the best locations for this day. And she said, oh, 797 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: Lola's rooftop Argentinian steakhouse where you see the whole view 798 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: of San Francis go. Yeah, it was on. So took 799 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: her to Lola's. It was going great. We were chatting 800 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: up all this stuff and I was like, hey, waiter, 801 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: you know I'm ready. We got some crazy like I 802 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: got some some sizzling Chliso pork shoulder and just immaculate. 803 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean eleven out of ten vibes. I called the 804 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: way to get the bill with full intentions of paying 805 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: for the bill, and then she's like, oh, you know, 806 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: what's something I forgot to tell you? She was doing 807 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: this like rotation, Like oh, she like rotates her position 808 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: every like a few months. She's like, in this next rotation, 809 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Paris on Valentine's Day with 810 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. How cool is that? And that's the day 811 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: I learned that if I I shouldn't say do you 812 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: want to go to dinner? I should say you want 813 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: to go on a date? Here's this great be very intentional. Yeah, which, 814 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: to be fair, I've also had plenty of times where 815 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: I would be going out with the fee email friend 816 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: and we get coffee or whatever and it was not 817 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: a date. We were just hanging out as friends. So 818 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: that was the day I learned to be direct. In 819 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: the day that Paris made. 820 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: Me sad, Yeah, that is sad. 821 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 822 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: I feel like she might have known though, Like I 823 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 2: feel like you know when people ask you out right. 824 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: I feel like that was like, oh I have a boyfriend. 825 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like like like if I had asked someone 826 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: out and like she's like, oh, I have a boyfriend, 827 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: let me tell him. Yeah, and like either like, oh, hey, 828 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable going to dinner, which is well with it? 829 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: Your right, or if you're like, oh, I'm still down, 830 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: but just so you know i'm dating someone, like I'm not, 831 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, not trying to date. Yeah. 832 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sad though. 833 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: He's Oh but then I can't remember if I said 834 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: this part. I then in this split second after she 835 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: told me that, decided to split the bill in my mail. Oh, 836 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: because I always say is always pay on the first date. Yeah, 837 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: but if if I'm hanging out with the friend, I 838 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: usually unless it's like whatever, I already of the time, 839 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: fifty percent plus split the bill. Okay, we'll just pay 840 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: for whatever we both got. 841 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's like necessarily, it's like it 842 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: like if you go out with a friend and you 843 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: pay for the bill. I don't like it doesn't always 844 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: mean date. Yeah, but I get the she's just told 845 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: you of the implication the Yeah. 846 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, because I'm not trying to come back and 847 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're in a parasol, let me pay 848 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: for your bill? How about that? Yeah? Like a nice guy. 849 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like in that scenario. 850 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: I'll let you off, Big Protein. Dude. 851 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 3: If you would have paid for it, you would have 852 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: definitely been a simp knowing that's a simp move. If 853 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: you know she has a boyfriend and then you also 854 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: paid for it, that's a sip move and you didn't. 855 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: Simp, double simp. I would have double simped, but instead 856 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: I double pipped. By the way, Riley's nickname is Big Protein. 857 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I've I've heard the story. I was briefed. 858 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: It's a whole It's a whole thing, the whole thing. Guys, 859 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: do another Big Protein comment threat, because it just makes 860 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: me happy when you comment Big Protein one hundred times. 861 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 2: For Riley did give me a protein shake this morning. 862 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: Big Protein lives on, lives up to his name, and 863 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: I think that that might be a rapid doodle. 864 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 2: Doo, a rapid doodle do with this episode. 865 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: If you love us, make sure to subscribe. 866 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.