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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, November second, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty two. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. Nick, this has become like this thing has
Speaker 1: taken on a whole life of its own. I swear
Speaker 1: this weekend I probably ran into two or three people
Speaker 1: in the hotel alone that asked me what numbers show
Speaker 1: are we on? Uh So, I think fans are kind
Speaker 1: of digging this thing. I love how it took seventeen
Speaker 1: years for you to figure out a gimmick to get
Speaker 1: anyone but you to care about this, and now we're
Speaker 1: there and people care, and Nick cared so much. You
Speaker 1: didn't do it yesterday, Well you gave us one at
Speaker 1: the end Alsherman Singleton, which is awesome. People on their toes,
Speaker 1: make them wait, make them way through the whole show.
Speaker 1: You got fifty two? Yeah, you know. Usually it's like
Speaker 1: there's a there's a right answer, and then there's my answer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's the same. I think Dexter Cole there,
Speaker 1: Dexter Cokeley. He was a good player, man. I think
Speaker 1: Connor's the only fifty two I've ever covered. Oh my guy,
Speaker 1: actually I forgot. I'm sorry. Justin. I loved Justin Durant.
Speaker 1: He he's big into music. I think he DJ's and
Speaker 1: is just as a side hobby. The one player I
Speaker 1: know that actually took time to go down on his
Speaker 1: own and and go and just to ten south by Southwest,
Speaker 1: which is a big conference out in Austin. It's like
Speaker 1: tech and geek kind of stuff I used to like
Speaker 1: on especially like Wow. Way back in the ancient days,
Speaker 1: they used to even do available. They did player availability
Speaker 1: on Mondays right after the game, which was like the
Speaker 1: biggest waste of time, especially if they lost. Oh, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna find anybody in there, and even if they're
Speaker 1: in there, they're not gonna want to talk. But me
Speaker 1: and Durant used to I would ask him for music
Speaker 1: recommendations on Mondays just be like, what are you listening
Speaker 1: to right now? And it was always good. You know
Speaker 1: what I wish he would have done, But when Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers was rolling out on that third and sixteen in
Speaker 1: the in the playoff game, I wish he kind of
Speaker 1: would have, you know, just beat him to the punch
Speaker 1: instead of just kind of waited to see if he
Speaker 1: was going to run, because you got to bring up
Speaker 1: all stuff. Yeah, saying that's what I remembered here, fond
Speaker 1: memories bringing that out. You know what, Dexter quickly did
Speaker 1: a full circle his uh not his rookie year, but
Speaker 1: his like third year. He made big plays in the
Speaker 1: games where people were watching like Thanksgiving, wasn't that Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, we go picksport two picks, one for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: ends up going to the Pro Bowl. So when you
Speaker 1: do it on the big stage, guys like Mica Parsons
Speaker 1: having his best game on big stage like that, you
Speaker 1: know it could help Al Singleton or excuse me, Al
Speaker 1: Johnson is my Johnson Johnson center right center, Wisconsin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just so his like relatives don't email me. I mean,
Speaker 1: Davi Dwards was a really good linebacker back in the oil.
Speaker 1: He really was sounds like you've gotten having emails in
Speaker 1: the past from that family, you know. Um, But going
Speaker 1: back to what I was saying about that with Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl and stuff, like this team could have ten Pro Bowlers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they had zero last year. That way quite the reversal.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. Actually literally I'm not even playing
Speaker 1: the game, but to have ten, that's amazing. See, it's
Speaker 1: a day or tomorrow that I got a conference call
Speaker 1: with the NFL talking about Pro Bowl like they're starting
Speaker 1: it up, so voting should be starting here soon. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it sounds cocky or whatever. Like it's
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. They're the most visible team in the league.
Speaker 1: If they're good, they're gonna have Oh yeah, they're they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna have more than they deserve, if we're being honest.
Speaker 1: Every time it's happened like that, every time they had
Speaker 1: a really good team. They have a ton of people
Speaker 1: at the pro bile. But but I count nine that
Speaker 1: are probably deserving right now, And that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: looking dak zeke Um Dalton Schultz. I can just look
Speaker 1: at the question comes who else yeah, who Zach Tiring.
Speaker 1: That's we'll talk about that. If you're an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: once you've been to like two, it's just a snowball. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then um, I think Gregory yeah, Micah, yep, maybe Diggs.
Speaker 1: Diggs is already I thought I had a good nine. Oh.
Speaker 1: Receivers are tough because there's so many receivers that are
Speaker 1: getting catches and all that. Those those rams receivers like
Speaker 1: just they're gonna sit there with almost one of them
Speaker 1: is getting there. I think I think one of them
Speaker 1: ends up there. Almost all just said both of his names. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry sorry, Yeah, Cooper Cooper, Yeah, I think Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper deserves deserves it. Yeah, he's yeah, So that
Speaker 1: gives you nine, gives you Yeah, and then Amari's on.
Speaker 1: We'll see what a safety does something you do say
Speaker 1: Dak right, yeah, you know for his as good as
Speaker 1: he's been across his entire career, Like Amari Cooper has
Speaker 1: never been a touchdown guy. Like his career highs eight
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, He's not like he's never had more
Speaker 1: than that. He's he's pretty reliable for like five six.
Speaker 1: He's already on five five Yeah, he's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the Pro Bowl. As long as
Speaker 1: that's nine, that's a that's a healthy number right there.
Speaker 1: I mean that that means you guys probably send somebody
Speaker 1: to cover Pro Bowl this year. So maybe I don't
Speaker 1: say that we're not gonna play in the game. You
Speaker 1: and Amber touching that twice? Now, um, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: the defense, another defensive guy I could get into the mix.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just want I just want to be
Speaker 1: able to I would laugh Layton, mate, No, not not
Speaker 1: with Mike good. You say, Laton, he's playing pretty good.
Speaker 1: Then yesterday you say play very well? Yes, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: you thought, Josie, I thought he played well. Okay, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's been bad. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's think he's been pro played like a pro bowler.
Speaker 1: And Randy may may not make it to his numbers.
Speaker 1: Aren't aren't looking at I'm looking at five sacks at
Speaker 1: the less than halfway point, and certainly if you look
Speaker 1: at pressures and stuff like that right up there. And
Speaker 1: I would say it like this once again, if you're
Speaker 1: talking about fan voting, fans are gonna be like, man,
Speaker 1: he's bawling, you know, so I don't I think gets in.
Speaker 1: I need we need, we need to have a shot there.
Speaker 1: I need Tony to get into the end zone a
Speaker 1: couple more times. I would laugh my ass off if
Speaker 1: the backup running back made a Pro Bowl case, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen, but it would be funny,
Speaker 1: all right. I did want to talk about some injuries.
Speaker 1: It's usually wait and talk about injuries on Wednesday, but
Speaker 1: there's so many right now, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: about um kind of where they are, and I want
Speaker 1: to talk about like what how the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: manage these these different injuries. Let's start first with obviously
Speaker 1: the injury that lingered from last week, Dak and his calf.
Speaker 1: What did Mike McCarthy have to say yesterday about where
Speaker 1: Dak is at this point? He said that Wednesday's gonna
Speaker 1: be a little different practice, so he may he may
Speaker 1: be limited some Wednesday. They're hoping by Thursday he'll be
Speaker 1: full go. And and then Jerry said this morning on
Speaker 1: the radio that he wouldn't can't really What did he
Speaker 1: say exactly? He expects him to play? He says he
Speaker 1: can't see a scenario. Maybe he said, like every expectation
Speaker 1: that he'll go on Thursday, and they're very optimistic. Now
Speaker 1: he's Here's where I need you guys to give me
Speaker 1: your expert opinion on covering this team. Two weeks ago
Speaker 1: at the bye, there was also that kind of talk
Speaker 1: where all, I can't see a reason why he wouldn't
Speaker 1: be all good by the time we get back from
Speaker 1: the bye. Thank god we got the buy. We have
Speaker 1: that week to rest. He should be good. After that,
Speaker 1: even Dak was kind of like, yeah, we're good, we're
Speaker 1: good here. Do you think it's some of that or
Speaker 1: do you think it legitimately is that he's going to
Speaker 1: be back this week. I don't I don't really remember
Speaker 1: it that way. Honestly, I don't remember it being like
Speaker 1: we're good. They were very dismissive, like before the bottle
Speaker 1: Da Dak was a lot of that, and I don't
Speaker 1: trust him at all. He's I mean, like the way
Speaker 1: he could he had to he had to hop into
Speaker 1: the locker room in New England on Zeke's shoulder, and
Speaker 1: then he kind of stumped his way out to the
Speaker 1: podium and was like I needed to give you all
Speaker 1: something to talk about him, just like you're just you're
Speaker 1: just being dak, You're just putting a confident face on
Speaker 1: whatever's bothering you. Like those That's not the same to
Speaker 1: me as what the organization might be saying. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I feel like this this is different. I mean this week,
Speaker 1: UM just just really by what he's able to do.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, just what he's they're putting him out there,
Speaker 1: and as far as like working out and jogging a
Speaker 1: little bit, I just feel like if he was that
Speaker 1: far away, they probably wouldn't even mess with it. Right now,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was that close to playing.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, with Xavier Wood saying, you know, man,
Speaker 1: we thought he was going to play. Mike McCarthy won
Speaker 1: the week. I mean, I mean, we'd say all this
Speaker 1: stuff about managing the game and stuff, which I thought
Speaker 1: he did a pretty good job in managing that game
Speaker 1: in a couple of ways. But they managed the week.
Speaker 1: The whole Cowboys manage that and it worked, you know
Speaker 1: pretty well. You know, It's interesting. I've always thought this too,
Speaker 1: and people, a lot of people outside the organization talk
Speaker 1: about how having an owner that's as visible and talks
Speaker 1: as much as Jerry does can be a detriment. I
Speaker 1: actually think in a lot of instances it creates so
Speaker 1: much confusion on what really is happening outside of the building,
Speaker 1: Like the media is like, well, Jerry saying this, and
Speaker 1: the coach is saying this, and the player is saying this.
Speaker 1: I actually think it creates clouds of man who knows
Speaker 1: what's going on? And the only people that really know
Speaker 1: are the people that's on the football side of this building.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was always true, though, Like
Speaker 1: I do feel like there was always this tone of like,
Speaker 1: and Jerry did it earlier this year. I think it
Speaker 1: was about I think it was about Terrence Steele starting
Speaker 1: maybe or something, but like he kind of he gave Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gave away. He gave it away on Tuesday, everybody
Speaker 1: was all upset about it. But I just during the
Speaker 1: Garrett era it felt like Gary Jerry kind of gave
Speaker 1: it away a lot more often, whereas like Jerry came
Speaker 1: out on Friday and was like, we're feeling great about Dak,
Speaker 1: We're feeling super optimistic, and everybody was like okay, But
Speaker 1: like that didn't really change the narrative. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And it is You're right, Like, I talk
Speaker 1: to people who don't live in this and I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about like Cowboy fans or anything like. You know,
Speaker 1: I've got writer friends and stuff like that. People, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got friends to cover the Vikings and other teams.
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, I saw where Jerry said this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, but there's like eighteen other layers
Speaker 1: to this that I don't blame you for not noticing.
Speaker 1: But that ain't that's not the whole story. It can
Speaker 1: get really convoluted. What you're asking is are they trying
Speaker 1: this again? Are we going down this road again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All we're gonna try to do the Broncos to thinking
Speaker 1: that I will tell you tell you this, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys heard Jerry this morning on
Speaker 1: the way he talked about this and they asked him like,
Speaker 1: is there something to being able to hide what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? And Jerry said absolutely. He was like, that's
Speaker 1: probably he said, it's probably one of the most important
Speaker 1: things you can do, just because as as we've all
Speaker 1: heard kind of being around this, every guy in that
Speaker 1: locker room is watching tape on whoever he's going against,
Speaker 1: his matchup, his guy he has to be aware of.
Speaker 1: And so if you can keep that hidden from him
Speaker 1: all week, then he's having to do one or two things.
Speaker 1: Either he's having to make a guess and he focuses
Speaker 1: on one person that might be right, might not. Or
Speaker 1: he's having to split his time, which means he can't
Speaker 1: devote all his time to one guy and preparing to
Speaker 1: go against one guy. Yeah, that's I mean, that's gamesmanship
Speaker 1: one on one, right, which I mean I I kind
Speaker 1: of chuckle it. Xavier Woods like, really like, you're prepared
Speaker 1: all week for Dac And then Scooper Rush threw Scooper
Speaker 1: Rush guy threw me for a loop that Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: who had never played until Sunday. Yeah, um, as though
Speaker 1: you had film to watch on him anyway. And also yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Xavier Woods like had the game of his life.
Speaker 1: By the way, I just was shaking my head the
Speaker 1: whole time. I'm just like, well, it's not happening for you.
Speaker 1: I really thought, well, if he's getting interceptions and making
Speaker 1: plays for his team, then it's not gonna be a year.
Speaker 1: You're night now, you know, he didn't he didn't have
Speaker 1: the best game though, too, Like he had you look
Speaker 1: at the stat line, that's good, but I mean he
Speaker 1: was doing was really good Chase in there. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean he had some plays in the secondary too,
Speaker 1: where he's that's kind of well, that's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for his game. Yeah, that was a really good game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be like he's not Smith. I mean
Speaker 1: he didn't have that great of a game. I mean
Speaker 1: I let him in tackles, but yeah, he gets a
Speaker 1: nice submission whole night. Yeah, I mean that's good. I
Speaker 1: mean he's the UFC champion there. I didn't honestly, I
Speaker 1: didn't even see that until That's what I said later
Speaker 1: when when that mail back question came up. Then I
Speaker 1: went and started looking for it. I didn't see it
Speaker 1: to zeke moms put Zeke's mom put it out on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's the ultimate irony is that fans know way more
Speaker 1: about what's going on than anybody that's in the building,
Speaker 1: include like definitely in US and even the coaches to
Speaker 1: those nuanced things that they show on TV. Because absolutely
Speaker 1: Collinsworth is like, now look at the way Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: has his Adam's Apple and a chokehold here and he's
Speaker 1: like he's circling it on the tallestrator, like I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing that. You can't see that. I'm surprised CD just
Speaker 1: went straight for the tap out, like like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can get off me, bro. I bet that's and
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, I know people are up in
Speaker 1: arms about that. I bet, I bet he gets he
Speaker 1: gets an envelope from the league this CD will get
Speaker 1: a fine for tapping out earlier. You can't tap out
Speaker 1: in the first five seconds of a chokehold. To answer
Speaker 1: to go way back to your initial question, I really like,
Speaker 1: I know it's boring, but like, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can answer the DA question until like Thursday, probably, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I do think they feel very optimistic.
Speaker 1: I do think he's got a good chance to play.
Speaker 1: But player feedback and the way you respond to that
Speaker 1: stuff is part of that. Do you think they should
Speaker 1: consider holding him out if he's not one hundred percent?
Speaker 1: Obviously you're playing a team that's not great, You're playing
Speaker 1: a team that's in the AFC, so the loss, if
Speaker 1: you got a loss, wouldn't hurt you dramatically. And what
Speaker 1: you saw this last week may give you a little
Speaker 1: more confidence that you can actually win a game without
Speaker 1: having Dak Prescott in the lineup. And let's throw in
Speaker 1: one other caveat we don't know about Thomas Smith. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about him next. Let's assume that he might
Speaker 1: have to miss the game. Now you're a little bit
Speaker 1: more compromised on the offensive line as well. All that
Speaker 1: being said, would you consider holding him out if he's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'm not getting cute and holding him
Speaker 1: out for all of the reasons that you just said. Okay,
Speaker 1: if he meets the threshot and I don't know what
Speaker 1: their threshold is, I don't know if it's a percentage
Speaker 1: or like can you do this, that and the other.
Speaker 1: If he meets that, he plays. It's the NFL. You
Speaker 1: want your starter in there. If he meets the threshold
Speaker 1: where Britt Brown and everybody down the line is like, yes,
Speaker 1: he's fine, then he should play. If he doesn't, then
Speaker 1: he shouldn't. I know that's boring, but I'm not weighing
Speaker 1: it differently because the Broncos are in the AFC. You
Speaker 1: want your starter to play if everybody feels confident that
Speaker 1: he can do so. Safely he should play. Could be
Speaker 1: honest here. Sure, keep bothering me when you keep saying
Speaker 1: that about the Broncos loss, like like losing to an
Speaker 1: AFC team doesn't matter. No, I didn't say it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt you in the same
Speaker 1: way as if you lost to an NFCA team, and
Speaker 1: certainly if you lost an NFC East team. That's the
Speaker 1: way it's designed, that's the way I mean, that's true,
Speaker 1: not necessarily, I mean, it's got to work out perfectly
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, it's got to work out in
Speaker 1: the tiebreak. But if we're sitting but I mean if
Speaker 1: they're thirteen and four and they finished thirteen and four
Speaker 1: and Green Bay's fourteen and three, and they're like they
Speaker 1: got the number one seed and they got the two
Speaker 1: seed because you lost the Yeah, but says it's less
Speaker 1: It is less than if you lost to an NFC team,
Speaker 1: and that is less than if you lost an NFC
Speaker 1: East team. I get what you're saying. Yes, the overall
Speaker 1: record matters, absolutely right. This happened as recently as twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: Like they went twelve and four and and didn't get
Speaker 1: a bye because of who they lost to in the
Speaker 1: regular seas. And I guarantee you this year, you look
Speaker 1: at those top five teams, tiebreakers will matter. They absolutely
Speaker 1: will matter. I can't imagine. Yeah this is this won't
Speaker 1: matter if you don't tie with them. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: but none of these teams are gonna go None of
Speaker 1: these teams are gonna go without a loss the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. There's gonna be some wins and losses.
Speaker 1: But all I'm saying is what I'm saying is it's
Speaker 1: less of a challenge. It's less of a challenge to
Speaker 1: lose that game than it is to lose even next
Speaker 1: week when you play Atlanta because they're in the NFC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. Got it still bothers me? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll bet you five dollars right now, two of the
Speaker 1: division winners are going to have the same record. Like
Speaker 1: I don't know who it'll be, but like the like
Speaker 1: you know, the three and four seat will have the
Speaker 1: same record, or the two and three seat will have
Speaker 1: the same record. That seems very likely to me, or
Speaker 1: or the wild cards, which Cowboys seem to not be
Speaker 1: part of that race. But I don't know. You never know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's even more interesting. I started looking at
Speaker 1: these teams, those top five teams, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be an interesting staff that Dallas only
Speaker 1: has three more games. If it's ten games left, Guess
Speaker 1: how many of those teams have winning records ten games?
Speaker 1: Guessing three because I see, okay, three and I thought, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: Cowboys must have an advantage. Started looking at some of
Speaker 1: the other teams. Green Bay has two, Arizona has two.
Speaker 1: Like this is a top heavy division right now, I
Speaker 1: mean a conference, I should say, And basically all those
Speaker 1: teams only have a couple of games against each other.
Speaker 1: All the rest of their games against teams that are
Speaker 1: not they have a feeling like the Arizona game at
Speaker 1: the end of the season. How's this feeling? It's gonna
Speaker 1: mean like nothing, I really do, Like like why, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, I mean, the NFL is looking at
Speaker 1: that game already thinks that you just put that up
Speaker 1: at night. You know that's gonna be a night game.
Speaker 1: But but well, I mean it'll matter, but it'll be
Speaker 1: one of those things like Okay, this is just a preview.
Speaker 1: You know they're probably gonna play again. I mean, there
Speaker 1: could be some some seating, you know, issues there for
Speaker 1: three to two or one to two and all that.
Speaker 1: If if it goes down to like the number one, see,
Speaker 1: of course that will be the biggest game ever. But
Speaker 1: but I just feel like it's gonna be the thing.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, this is the end of the year,
Speaker 1: Like you could win this one, but who's gonna win
Speaker 1: the one and next month? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I get it. But I think that's the best
Speaker 1: part about this whole seventh team in each conference in
Speaker 1: the playoffs is that now with only one team getting
Speaker 1: a buy, those teams are really going to be jockeying
Speaker 1: for position at the end of the league. At the
Speaker 1: end of the season. I'm talking about those teams at
Speaker 1: the top. I think either Dallas or Arizona or both
Speaker 1: will be playing in that game to help secure their
Speaker 1: their ability to get the top seat. That game's gonna
Speaker 1: matter a ton to one or both of those teams.
Speaker 1: Going back to the point about NFC games mattering a
Speaker 1: little bit more than ANFC games, I just I could
Speaker 1: see that being a situation where loser of this game's
Speaker 1: playing the badass team in fifth place and the winners
Speaker 1: getting the not so good team in seventh place or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah it matters not Minnesota. Maybe could
Speaker 1: get talking about in that six seven the different Seattle.
Speaker 1: I think when they get rust back, depend on where
Speaker 1: they are, they might be able to make a little oneattle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hate to you don't want to just assume too
Speaker 1: much this early, but the fifth seed is going to
Speaker 1: be whoever doesn't win the NFC West and they're going
Speaker 1: to have eleven wins, yeah or more. So you don't
Speaker 1: want to be the fourth seed. Yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: to be the fourth seeds. All right, let's take our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we'd have a couple
Speaker 1: more injuries. You want to hit real quick, We'll do
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Speaker 1: Rally Day number four. This is Rally Days. I'm a
Speaker 1: team player, so whatever you're asking me to do, I'm
Speaker 1: all in. I was. I was going to be there
Speaker 1: that Saturday at no if I can be there, but
Speaker 1: we'll try. You be there. You could be there to Sunday,
Speaker 1: November seventh when they take on that will be Broncos
Speaker 1: team they have not beaten since nineteen ninety five. Really,
Speaker 1: I can we retire? Can we? Like? I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care about how when the last time they
Speaker 1: beat an AFC team was? They only play him once
Speaker 1: every four years? So how old were you in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five, zero six or seven? Oh? I'm not that Yeah.
Speaker 1: I grew up in New Orleans. The Saints were garbage
Speaker 1: and my whole life until high school when Breeze got there.
Speaker 1: I loved the Like when when when they got Torell
Speaker 1: Davis and we're doing their thing. I love the Broncos
Speaker 1: just like every other six year old bandwagon fan, not
Speaker 1: Arld Davis killed him in ninety eight, two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: two thousand one Thanksgiving. That was the game. That was
Speaker 1: the That was the game that Dave Campo did not
Speaker 1: go for two and they were down by they had
Speaker 1: cut it to they were down like like sixteen. They're
Speaker 1: down my sixteen and they scored and they made it.
Speaker 1: We talked about that on the Bad Decision Dave and
Speaker 1: this this older, older reporter said why didn't you go
Speaker 1: for two? And he's like, well, because we didn't feel
Speaker 1: like it was the right time to do that and
Speaker 1: all that, and he was like, bad decision Dave was
Speaker 1: a bad decision. He was like yeah, right in the
Speaker 1: press car. And that became kind of a monster of
Speaker 1: the media would say that regulate bad decision Dave his
Speaker 1: entire tenure every time he has. I'm a bad decision,
Speaker 1: But my friends say that to me on weekend nights, right,
Speaker 1: bad decision days. This weekend nights, you a good point.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think. I mean, they haven't
Speaker 1: beaten him. I mean Ron Dane killed him Thanksgiving. I
Speaker 1: mean the best game was the Romoa game was so good.
Speaker 1: People were killing Daniel Jones in the game. They just
Speaker 1: played that. The Cowboys won. He got concussed by Jabril Cox,
Speaker 1: which sucks for him. He's out for the year. I
Speaker 1: feel terrible about that. But Jabril Cox stops him on
Speaker 1: the naked boot and everybody was like, why would you
Speaker 1: do that with your quarterback? You're putting him in danger.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I saw Peyton Manning do that
Speaker 1: here a few years ago and it kicked ass. You're
Speaker 1: the only one that saw it. Yeah, seriously, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboy players. That's when I mean, look, I know, do
Speaker 1: you think that that right there, that game, I mean,
Speaker 1: is just Tony Romo's career in a nutshell, just the
Speaker 1: entire game. Yes, yeah, I mean, I mean, you're you're
Speaker 1: you're battling with like, you're flirting with greatness, with going
Speaker 1: up against the goat greatness, you know, and you're you're
Speaker 1: with them, you know, right then and then then like
Speaker 1: here here it is. Here's your moment. Go down there.
Speaker 1: You're sitting at like five hundred and six passing yards.
Speaker 1: If you get your team and field goal range to win,
Speaker 1: you're gonna probably pass to get there, and by passing
Speaker 1: to get there, you're gonna set the NFL record for
Speaker 1: passing yards in a game. It's like five to sixty
Speaker 1: and you're sitting on the twenty yard line. You gotta
Speaker 1: get down there. You're gonna do it. You're gonna win
Speaker 1: fifty one to forty eight, and this is your moment.
Speaker 1: And then you throw a pick after a phenomenal game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's his career two thousand and six. Not only that,
Speaker 1: all that and then he almost is Now I mean
Speaker 1: like that's ROBO's career. It's like it's like it's so
Speaker 1: close to being great and then it wasn't because of you.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a documentary. Hey, And it's not that line.
Speaker 1: It's the I mean maybe an agree to that I got.
Speaker 1: Tell him you can approach it that way, you let
Speaker 1: him see it with everybody else. What do you think?
Speaker 1: It's the epitome of like those teams too, Like every
Speaker 1: game of those years, Like the narrative could have swung
Speaker 1: so wildly, Like if you beat Denver, you're three and two.
Speaker 1: They won their next two games. So if you get
Speaker 1: that win, now you're what. I can't do math. Now
Speaker 1: you're five and two. You know, those teams never got
Speaker 1: that far out ahead of their record ever, because you
Speaker 1: throw a late game interception and now you're two and
Speaker 1: three in your clawn just to try to get back
Speaker 1: just enough to be interesting, but never could quite get there. Dave.
Speaker 1: Dave knows this answer because of his forearm. Uh do
Speaker 1: you remember who picked off Peyton Manning that day? I
Speaker 1: had one interception I'm the answers sitting there for you.
Speaker 1: He gave it away because it's like one of three
Speaker 1: interceptions of his entire career. No, Claymorn was that, Yeah
Speaker 1: he picked off Yeah, I picked off Peyton that day.
Speaker 1: He only had three in his career. No, it was
Speaker 1: probably more than that with the Jets. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: saw Diggs has more this year than he had any
Speaker 1: he was at He was at Danny's. You know they're
Speaker 1: they're very good, They're very good friend. Yeah, skinny skinny mo.
Speaker 1: Skinny Mo? Is that what he is? Now? Hey, like
Speaker 1: I've said a thousand times, you've heard me say it,
Speaker 1: when players retire, they go one way or the other.
Speaker 1: Good point, and he went the other way. All right,
Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's get back to these injury Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Tuesdays. Yes, know what, Helen, where it's gonna
Speaker 1: go before getting an opportunity to see just kind of
Speaker 1: what happens when we're just kind of sitting around just talking,
Speaker 1: because that's exactly where it goes. It's all over the places.
Speaker 1: It's just a random conversation. But let's talk about Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith this angle ankle injury. Um, I'm I'm getting the impression.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the look on your face. I'm getting the
Speaker 1: impression that this is some thing that's a little more
Speaker 1: than just he banged it and kind of day to
Speaker 1: day type thing. Well, I'm a Mavericks fan, so I
Speaker 1: don't like the word spurs anyway, But um kidding, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of kum yeah now, but a bones
Speaker 1: bur is that's what's what was revealed today. And you
Speaker 1: know that's that's an injury that if it requires surgery.
Speaker 1: If it requires surgery, then obviously that that's going to
Speaker 1: take some time. But it's a pain injury. It's a
Speaker 1: pain injury. And you know, you could tell Dave at
Speaker 1: the game like it was very similar to New England,
Speaker 1: except for the fact that he didn't run back onto
Speaker 1: the field and play. I mean he was It's like
Speaker 1: he's kind of walking around. I thought he'll get back
Speaker 1: in there, and he didn't. I thought it was weird
Speaker 1: because I yeah, you described it perfectly, but in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like the way like he was just walking
Speaker 1: around slowly with this scowl on his face, and I
Speaker 1: was like not holding his helmet when the offense was
Speaker 1: on the field, he'd be down by the defense, just
Speaker 1: kind of pacing around looking pissed off. And when the
Speaker 1: offense was on the bench, he'd be standing there letting
Speaker 1: the starters sit. And I was like, he doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's coming back. But and what I thought made
Speaker 1: that weird was like, why don't you get out of
Speaker 1: the thirty pounds of equipment you have to wear if
Speaker 1: you're not going to come back. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's just a personal decision, like now, I'll deal
Speaker 1: with that later, but it was, Yeah, it was curious
Speaker 1: to me. So you got shocked in that game when
Speaker 1: he was out that the Cowboys didn't decide to use
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins at tackle at one of those tackle positions. No,
Speaker 1: and I talked about this this morning. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it. He I think he could do it.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played. He was an amazing left tackle at LSU.
Speaker 1: That was twenty fourteen. That's I mean, Romo was leading
Speaker 1: them to the playoffs the last time Lyle played left tackle.
Speaker 1: That's a long time. He didn't rep it in practice,
Speaker 1: Tayan sec. He's been repping it since he's gotten back
Speaker 1: from his injury. He played it all through training camp.
Speaker 1: Think that makes sense, like not just throwing a guy
Speaker 1: out there and asking him to do something he hasn't
Speaker 1: done in almost so I'll take that one step further.
Speaker 1: Knowing that this was something that went back to the
Speaker 1: New England game with Tyron. Did the Cowboys waste a
Speaker 1: week last week by having Lyle working at guard and
Speaker 1: firsts having end full Well, that was actually a good idea,
Speaker 1: But instead of having him working at tackle, knowing that
Speaker 1: Tyron may be a little gimpy, I'm I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's just that, I don't know. That feels like
Speaker 1: a level of second guessing where I'm just like you
Speaker 1: have Inseci. You probably want to give a guy who's
Speaker 1: been out for five weeks like a very specific regimen
Speaker 1: and not just will just asking him to do everything
Speaker 1: at once. I think he should practice at left tackle
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, I absolutely think he should. You think
Speaker 1: it left? You don't think but Steal at left. Here's
Speaker 1: my issue with that, And I said this on the
Speaker 1: mail bag. That sounds good to put Terrence Steal on
Speaker 1: the left side. He's a little bit well, he's more Yeah,
Speaker 1: left is typically more you're you're more agile player, and
Speaker 1: he's Okay. Typically what worries me is Connor Williams and
Speaker 1: Terence Steal together side. Because if I'm a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to and I've got a Randy Gregory type,
Speaker 1: that's like just finding a spot where i can rush,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, let's go over here. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna just stay there overloading that side regularly. Not only that,
Speaker 1: I and I think I'm real quick. I think Zach
Speaker 1: Martin helps Terren Steele. We talked about that. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: helps him on that right, exactly right, Terrence. He's such
Speaker 1: a cool success story. The Cowboys deserve credit for believing
Speaker 1: in him when nobody else did all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: He's still a really young player. He played the left
Speaker 1: tackle in training camp, but all of his work since
Speaker 1: the season started has been at right. I just don't
Speaker 1: think he's at the level where you want to be
Speaker 1: flopping him around just like, oh, well you're hurt over
Speaker 1: here and moving like, No, keep him where he's been good,
Speaker 1: Keep him where he's got a Hall of Famer helping him.
Speaker 1: Don't mess with a good thing, and honest, and I
Speaker 1: said this on the radio this morning. Just let if
Speaker 1: tyron camp go, which seems like a reasonable guess. Just
Speaker 1: let Enseci and Lyle battle that thing out all week.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Enseci it gets the nod, whatever,
Speaker 1: just let them wrap it out and see what looks best.
Speaker 1: I like everything you're saying there, except for the part
Speaker 1: about at some point, I don't know how this is
Speaker 1: all gonna shake out, and maybe it never will, maybe
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be like this, but you know, at
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna need Terrence Steel I think, to
Speaker 1: be the swing tackle. So, like you said, don't move
Speaker 1: him back and forth. But if I want I want
Speaker 1: a young guy to be a swing tackle, I mean,
Speaker 1: then he needs to. But that's the work I want
Speaker 1: to give him in training camp in the off season,
Speaker 1: because that's about getting used to the idea that now
Speaker 1: you're you're when you when you're your footwork on the
Speaker 1: right side has to change on the left side. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that in mid season. Like they said,
Speaker 1: he's playing pretty good right now, I don't want to
Speaker 1: mess with that. He kind of did though he was
Speaker 1: at left left tackle. Now he's a right But making
Speaker 1: that change in the middle of the season might be
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think I'm also McCarthy. Like,
Speaker 1: McCarthy's not going to give anything away, but you can
Speaker 1: find his likely answer in the context clusive what he says,
Speaker 1: and he loves him some continuity. He is obsessed. He
Speaker 1: brings it up a lot, the correlation between the combined
Speaker 1: starts of your offensive line. How many starts are you
Speaker 1: getting out of your five? How many times have they
Speaker 1: played together? I haven't done the numbers myself, but he
Speaker 1: insists that the correlation between that and success is remarkable.
Speaker 1: So I think in a best case scenario, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: probably wants to keep as many people as possible where
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, And Jerry said it on the radio
Speaker 1: today too, He said, you don't want to move too,
Speaker 1: you'd rather just move one to move two. So that
Speaker 1: we have an answer on this. Yeah, Yeah, Lyle can
Speaker 1: do it and hasn't done it in a long time.
Speaker 1: Tie and Secky's been doing it. Let him just get it.
Speaker 1: Get out there on Wednesday and Thursday and see what
Speaker 1: looks better. When somebody calls this afternoon from the trade
Speaker 1: deadline and says, looks like you got a few tackles
Speaker 1: over there, you just kind of hang up on them
Speaker 1: or I politely say kick rocks. I wouldn't even say
Speaker 1: it politely. I'd be like, nah, I'm good, We'll give
Speaker 1: you a fifth. No, no, not right now, leave me
Speaker 1: alone fifth and sec. What's more like, we're sitting here
Speaker 1: talking about Tyron Smith not being available again. It sucks.
Speaker 1: It's not his neck, by I just want to throw
Speaker 1: that out there. It's not his neck. But this is
Speaker 1: just this is it is what it is. Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: is not I don't want to say he's not reliable
Speaker 1: because he's such a tough player, but like you cannot
Speaker 1: count on him to be in the lineup. That that
Speaker 1: that is what it is. So why am I trying
Speaker 1: to get rid of people who can help me weather
Speaker 1: that problem with you? I'm not arguing with you. I'm
Speaker 1: just you're six and one. In my opinion, from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of how you look at at this trade deadline,
Speaker 1: you're six and one. Don't do anything to disrupt what
Speaker 1: you currently have unless you're getting something helps you right now. Now,
Speaker 1: if you were trading, let's say they were saying, okay,
Speaker 1: we will, we will give you some really great center
Speaker 1: for tie and seki. Okay, now let's have a conversation,
Speaker 1: or you look at a position where you actually can
Speaker 1: upgrade your team by getting rid of something that you
Speaker 1: think could be somewhat of a sour plus. Maybe you
Speaker 1: talk about it there. But I'm not willing to give
Speaker 1: up any assets right now for what can be a
Speaker 1: draft pick down the road that doesn't help me right now.
Speaker 1: I'm a sixty one team. I'm trying to win right now, right,
Speaker 1: and not to get cute, but I mean, the goal
Speaker 1: here obviously is to play thirteen more games. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: ten and then you want to play three more. And
Speaker 1: this team looks like somebody that you know, as good
Speaker 1: as any other team in the league, has a chance
Speaker 1: to play thirteen more games. And so I said this
Speaker 1: on the radio too when when they were called, um,
Speaker 1: they're talking about yesterday, would you do you know what?
Speaker 1: Would you give Tony Pollard? Would you trade Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: to somebody? They asked me that today's see. I laughed
Speaker 1: in their face, right all the stupid once again? Would
Speaker 1: you do about it? Would you do a first round
Speaker 1: pick for Tony Pollard? Oh? Come on, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: I said, it's got to be a first round sick now,
Speaker 1: I actually I said it starts at a two, like
Speaker 1: I need. I would probably I said no to the two.
Speaker 1: It's not just I said it starts with a two,
Speaker 1: not just a two, but I need I need the
Speaker 1: two and then maybe another two or a three whatever
Speaker 1: you could make me an offer that I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to say no too. But who's given all that
Speaker 1: up for Tony Pollard R. I mean not even the
Speaker 1: Titans already played their card. They went and signed Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: Why would they give up a first round pick on
Speaker 1: top of I mean, if you if you call it
Speaker 1: and offered me at first, I don't that would be
Speaker 1: hard to say no too. Yeah, unless it's one, especially
Speaker 1: if any guy that's that's a backup type player, that
Speaker 1: You're gonna offer me a one, and I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: listen no matter what. But yeah, that's the point. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. But and it's not feasible that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of it. The thing, the thing
Speaker 1: that pisses me off about Pollard more than any is
Speaker 1: like they play the most physical position in the game,
Speaker 1: and Zeke's been very durable over his career, but like
Speaker 1: he's one horse caller away from being away from being gone,
Speaker 1: and they got nothing behind him. If if Tony Pollard's
Speaker 1: not on this team, like they got the they have
Speaker 1: the best duo in the league right now. But if
Speaker 1: you get rid of that depth, like Rico Dowdle's not here,
Speaker 1: they Clement cool Corey Clement. And as we've seen across
Speaker 1: the league this last week, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: teams whose fortune's changed with one player going down and
Speaker 1: not And I running backs don't matter, And like we
Speaker 1: talk about that in Tennessee, they do in Dallas too,
Speaker 1: Like good running backs still make a difference, like even
Speaker 1: even a good running team, Like everything that Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: does for the Ravens, they are different without Dobbins and Edwards,
Speaker 1: like they like they're making do with replacement level players.
Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like. Like guys with juice
Speaker 1: do matter. Maybe we can get into the whole thing
Speaker 1: about how much money you want to pay them, But
Speaker 1: Zeken Pollard or such an asset to this team, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to mess with either one of them. I
Speaker 1: can't think of a single guy because you start going
Speaker 1: down at Liz people like Gallop and Collins and Steel
Speaker 1: and even Jarwin guys that you're like, they're not starters,
Speaker 1: would you consider I'm like, no, every single one of
Speaker 1: them could play a role for you if you get
Speaker 1: one injury. And that's where I'm like, on a team
Speaker 1: like this, it's not worth it us. You look at
Speaker 1: the safety position, it's a good example. At one point,
Speaker 1: they're sitting there, like a few weeks ago, like we
Speaker 1: got all these guys coming, you know that are banged up,
Speaker 1: and I mean, they got all these guys, but like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do at safety? But they kind
Speaker 1: of just worked themselves out. You know, Donovan Wilson comes
Speaker 1: in and and I mean that he played a pretty
Speaker 1: good game the other day as well. Kazy ironic, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. That's two positions, which why would the
Speaker 1: Cowboys be trying to get rid of players right now? Again,
Speaker 1: they're trying to low, they're trying to go far, but
Speaker 1: safety and defensive end are two positions where I would
Speaker 1: listen to that phone call, Like, I don't know who's
Speaker 1: beaten down your door for Dorian's Armstrong or Malee Cooker,
Speaker 1: but if somebody called about those guys, it's it's so
Speaker 1: weird to say that they have the depth at safety
Speaker 1: where they could do it. But they could. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that they should. I just wouldn't. Yeah, I just wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I and I you're right, you listen, but but I
Speaker 1: just I just feel like we all know the NFL,
Speaker 1: and we know how how dangerous sport it is from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of injuries and playing through injury and that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Do I take the chance when you
Speaker 1: got a team that has actually has depth in the
Speaker 1: free agency error, an NFL team that actually has depth
Speaker 1: at a lot of positions, why mess with that? I
Speaker 1: want to be clear, I would I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they would want to trade away really anybody on this
Speaker 1: team right now. That's what they've got going. I think
Speaker 1: the only move that is made today is if is
Speaker 1: if somebody's looking to get rid of a veteran contract,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's going to be in his
Speaker 1: last year of his deal and so they're probably not
Speaker 1: resigning him, so they see if they can get something
Speaker 1: for him, and he comes in and he can you know,
Speaker 1: like like like a von Miller type of move, which
Speaker 1: type of move like that? I could see that I
Speaker 1: would have been only I would have done the Melvin
Speaker 1: Ingram deal for sure. You saw it. You see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have considered Elvan. Yeah. Yeah. They gave up
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder. The Chiefs gave up a sixth rounder
Speaker 1: to get him from Pittsburgh, which which that's that's the
Speaker 1: on a deal that you talk about all the time.
Speaker 1: Give up a late round pick, which you know he's
Speaker 1: he's older. Now he's got one sack. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's the same guy that was so great in
Speaker 1: LA for San Diego where whatever you want to call him. Um,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a sixth round pick. Yeah, probably throw
Speaker 1: that on the table. I don't do the von Miller deal. No,
Speaker 1: I don't give up a two and a three for
Speaker 1: a guy at that age with on the last year
Speaker 1: of his deal. I'm just not willing to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where a guard center, you know like that. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that type of guy, a guy that's
Speaker 1: maybe been to a Pro Bowl or whatever. But the
Speaker 1: thing is is he got You talked about continuity with McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I mean, guy's gonna come in now. If you get
Speaker 1: a veteran like that, obviously he should be able to
Speaker 1: mesh quickly quickly. But I don't. I don't know, and
Speaker 1: then a corner I could see that maybe, but you know,
Speaker 1: just for you for your depth. But I mean like
Speaker 1: it or not. I mean, Anthony Brown's playing pretty well.
Speaker 1: They like what they're gonna get back. They're getting with
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph. That's the fun like every and that I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's what they keep saying, which is why I
Speaker 1: don't expect anything to happen. Is uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: just mentioned Ingram, but it's even it's hard to find
Speaker 1: a place for him. Basham just had his best game.
Speaker 1: Armstrong's back tank is on the horizon. Mirandy's obviously killing it.
Speaker 1: Like it you could make it work if they had
Speaker 1: done that meal but but yeah, they got bodies there.
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph all of a sudden gives you a fourth
Speaker 1: corner that you hope can kind of wrote like mix
Speaker 1: in and maybe get some additional playing time. So even
Speaker 1: the positions of need, they're getting guys back that can
Speaker 1: help them with that not not center up. It would
Speaker 1: have to be a guy, and it wouldn't be like
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper, but it would have to be somebody
Speaker 1: to make a trade. It's somebody like, Okay, they're looking
Speaker 1: they're not going to resign him, but we probably will,
Speaker 1: Like we are going to resign this this guy. We
Speaker 1: we see him in the in the future. And where
Speaker 1: where's a spot where you would do that? I mean,
Speaker 1: they like be honest, I mean, I'm just at center.
Speaker 1: They like him in a guard maybe I'm I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, Connor Williams is probably not coming back, I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: And so that's the position where if you're looking at
Speaker 1: a position, everything lines up to where but if you
Speaker 1: have the right opportunity, maybe it makes it. If I'm
Speaker 1: another team in the league, you know, when he goes
Speaker 1: to free agency, I would probably look at him at
Speaker 1: center or tackle. I just don't think he's the guard.
Speaker 1: I think he's a center or a tackle. Um, he's
Speaker 1: got athleticism, he's just the strength is just that's where
Speaker 1: the problem is is that's where he gets those holds
Speaker 1: because he gets with somebody that's just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think I think he could be a tackle, honestly,
Speaker 1: or maybe even a center. All right, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: our final break and we come back. We got a
Speaker 1: couple more injuries. We want to hit real quick before
Speaker 1: we end the show to that and we come back back.
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Speaker 1: Final segment of The Break left in s WBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios at the Star give me an update on Trey
Speaker 1: von Diggs. He also had an ankle I think it is.
Speaker 1: Where is he as far as the status of his
Speaker 1: ability to play this week? I'm fine, That's what he said.
Speaker 1: That's what he said. I'm fine. He didn't. I did
Speaker 1: notice after he finished interviewing with you after the game.
Speaker 1: Uh Me and Clarence Hill were standing outside a couple
Speaker 1: other media people came out of the press conference and
Speaker 1: and we were watching him, and he turned and he
Speaker 1: walked away. Didn't seem to have a limp, no boot,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. So the assumption was maybe he's all right,
Speaker 1: but obviously you know, actually, when Mac watched the play,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the fans have as well, it was
Speaker 1: it was like the third to last play of the game,
Speaker 1: and he didn't Nice drop him and somebody else got
Speaker 1: not mane a tackle right on the sideline there to
Speaker 1: kept it going um and he got just kicked. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like a cat caught underneath. He was like somebody
Speaker 1: like kicked his ankle. He's a just shooting pain. He
Speaker 1: limped off, but you know that it was more like
Speaker 1: a bruise. It's fun but I will say this is funny.
Speaker 1: I was on the sideline and I looked over and
Speaker 1: it was big play because Mike's are trying to get
Speaker 1: out of bounds and the Cowboys got him right before.
Speaker 1: And I looked back and there's a ton of Cowboy fans.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows he could hear it. Cowboy fans, you could.
Speaker 1: I just wish you could have seen how many people
Speaker 1: in the stands were doing the winded up sign of
Speaker 1: like keep like the refs will do when the clock
Speaker 1: is going. There were a ton of fans doing that.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of funny, like all these referees
Speaker 1: in the stands like knowing that rule and doing it,
Speaker 1: and everyone on the Cowboys sideline was doing it. It
Speaker 1: was it was without a doubt, and this is just
Speaker 1: how great the Cowboys season is, without a doubt. The
Speaker 1: biggest crowd I've ever seen in Minnesota. Yeah, that's one
Speaker 1: of those cities. It's very similar to Kansas City in
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's one of those cities where they do
Speaker 1: a good job of maintaining their home field advantage. With
Speaker 1: regards of their fans, it's not a lot of You
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of extra fans that are not.
Speaker 1: New Orleans is another one. You don't see a lot
Speaker 1: of the other team's fans. Like they have a way
Speaker 1: of kind of maintaining control of their environment for the
Speaker 1: most part. You know, I was, I mean, we're used
Speaker 1: to this Cowboy fans takeover FedEx, Phoenix, Miami, where you
Speaker 1: name it, they do it. But a lot of places
Speaker 1: I was blown away. And it's one like when when
Speaker 1: Cooper makes a catch, it's that's obvious because everybody knows
Speaker 1: to go cool, like that's cool. But when Zeke trucked
Speaker 1: those guys to pick up the third and eleven, I
Speaker 1: looked up from my laptop. I was like, are we
Speaker 1: in Arlington right now? And by the way, in this stadium,
Speaker 1: obviously we have access. There's no glass separating us. We
Speaker 1: can actually hear the crowd. Yeah, and yeah, you could
Speaker 1: tell Cowboys fans were erupting in moments where Cowboys like
Speaker 1: things erupting, like the whole building is like freaking out
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys made a good play. Like I was stunned.
Speaker 1: And that's like I said, I know that this happens,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't ready for it. I put it on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I have that video of Shannon actually took the video
Speaker 1: of Cooper catching the touchdown. Of course, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: standing right there in the corner and knowing that I'm
Speaker 1: the cameras on so I'm trying to like play it
Speaker 1: cool and you know, but really, more of all I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of it is, Okay, there's fifty one seconds left,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of football left. I'm thinking probably
Speaker 1: in my in my head, I'm thinking Dave's probably up
Speaker 1: there going you left too much time, too much time
Speaker 1: on the club. I actually so, but real quick before
Speaker 1: you get to that point. I was just like everybody
Speaker 1: that responded the on Twitter about that is like I
Speaker 1: can't believe that loud it was when he caught the
Speaker 1: game winner for a minute to go. H No, I
Speaker 1: was just I tweeted this when it happened, like, if
Speaker 1: DA's your quarterback, then that was stupid, like I just
Speaker 1: you trust your quarterback. I would play it differently. I
Speaker 1: would try to bleed clock. You trust a guy that's
Speaker 1: playing at an MVP level, Cooper Rush, just scredown. You
Speaker 1: just score the touchdown, take the lead. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the defense have been playing their butts. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: do not put Kirk Cousins in the Brady Rogers class
Speaker 1: where you're like out, yeah, I mean, you're screwed. You
Speaker 1: too much time. When I saw fifty one seconds, I
Speaker 1: was like, kylways won this game because I again, yeah,
Speaker 1: because again, I don't go. I don't put I don't
Speaker 1: put Kirk Cousins in that category. Like now, if it
Speaker 1: was one of those quarterbacks that that just well, but no,
Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. If it would have been
Speaker 1: for a field goal, I would have been like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a problem. It need they needed
Speaker 1: to drive the field and get a touchdown. They hadn't
Speaker 1: done that since the first quarter. But there was trusting.
Speaker 1: There were seven people against them, and I don't't say
Speaker 1: it like that. Yeah, no, I'm not a bit like that.
Speaker 1: But but it's a little bit much. It's a little strong.
Speaker 1: It's not against them, But but I mean it is
Speaker 1: a it was a flag happy crew, and yeah, and
Speaker 1: so all it takes. All I thought about was the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen game against the Raiders when they took a
Speaker 1: lead like that and it was like a sixty five
Speaker 1: yard pass interference penalty to get down there. All it
Speaker 1: takes is something crazy like that. Jefferson's gotta beat, he stops,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown runs into him. Flag. Next thing you know,
Speaker 1: you're on the thirty five and you're throwing. I get that.
Speaker 1: I just didn't trust. I didn't trust him to get
Speaker 1: them down for a touchdown. If it would have been
Speaker 1: a field goal, been completely different. Yea. I didn't expect
Speaker 1: no time that ever again, not that I did this time,
Speaker 1: but I mean, we might see him again in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying into him anymore. And remember they couldn't
Speaker 1: even halftime. They couldn't even manage halftime. They didn't manage
Speaker 1: half time. They certainly blew that. And I think you're right, Chris,
Speaker 1: I think that they thought three points. Cowboys got three points.
Speaker 1: We're up ten three. Wait, what's Scooper Rush gonna do?
Speaker 1: Come out in the third quarter on third By the way,
Speaker 1: he hadn't done anything. He had not done anything up
Speaker 1: until that point. And I really think halftime, I think
Speaker 1: Kellen decided, look, if we're gonna win this game, we
Speaker 1: gotta turn him a loose and whatever happens happens, but
Speaker 1: we gotta turn loose. I had seventeen passes at halftime,
Speaker 1: ended with forty one. Go go back and look or
Speaker 1: go go look at the score by quarters for this season.
Speaker 1: It's you know, Cowboys had pretty much leading just about
Speaker 1: every quarters. Third quarter. They kick people's ass in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. It's a credit to Kellen Moore, It's a
Speaker 1: credit to Dayan Quinn. They I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: think halftime adjustments are over rated or think you've said that. Well,
Speaker 1: I just think you don't have a lot of time.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen at halftime. It's like both bands happen
Speaker 1: in high school. It happen minute constantly throughout the game.
Speaker 1: Like by the time they all get down there and
Speaker 1: get into the locker room, they've probably got three and
Speaker 1: a half minutes before they got to go back out.
Speaker 1: Why why do you think, I mean, why do you
Speaker 1: why do we think the third quarter has been been
Speaker 1: good for I don't know if I agree with that completely, Dave.
Speaker 1: I do think at halftime sometimes again, especially if you're
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators up in the box, I do think there
Speaker 1: is a moment for the coach to talk to his
Speaker 1: coordinators and say, Okay, we're gonna strategically do more of this,
Speaker 1: do less of this. I just think let's try to
Speaker 1: see if we can incorporate this more because this is
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. By the time the third quarter starts,
Speaker 1: I just think you've got a pretty complete data set
Speaker 1: of what they're trying to do and what you think
Speaker 1: true can do. Yes, it matters, of course it matters.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is like, there's not just this grand
Speaker 1: scene from a movie where McCarthy comes onto the whiteboard
Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's like, all right, listen up,
Speaker 1: they've been doing this, and we're gonna do that, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out. We're gonna kicked. Like that doesn't
Speaker 1: have it. See that doesn't happen. They go, they huddle
Speaker 1: in their position groups and they're like, Okay, we're seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of quarters here in this down in this distance.
Speaker 1: We here's how we're gonna These are our beaters for
Speaker 1: this like, that's half time. Those that half it happens
Speaker 1: in the first quarter two. I get that. I get that.
Speaker 1: I do think though, at halftime, that's when everything stops
Speaker 1: for a minute. You're doing that all that stuff during
Speaker 1: the game there are bullets flying everywhere. I think that's
Speaker 1: when it stops for a moment and everybody can say, Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: here's the overall. Here's what we were talking about a
Speaker 1: little bit in the first quarter, second quarter. Here's how
Speaker 1: we're gonna handle this the rest of the scene. I've
Speaker 1: seen it happen in the middle of a game. You
Speaker 1: completely make a change to your defensive scheme in the
Speaker 1: middle of the game. Coach jos brought brought team over.
Speaker 1: I felt so hard for that. Jones was like the
Speaker 1: storytime we give up a great all night. That's right happen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I felt. I felt for that hooklient
Speaker 1: and sinker. No. I was gonna make Oh no, it's
Speaker 1: funny you brought that up. I wound up next to
Speaker 1: a family of Vikings fans. I guess, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they're from up there or whatever, but they were flying
Speaker 1: back here with me. So I was on the airport
Speaker 1: shuttle with them, and this grumpy Vikings fan was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're like the highest scoring offense in
Speaker 1: the NFL in the first quarter and we're thirtieth in
Speaker 1: the second half. I was just like, yikes, I mean
Speaker 1: that that sucks. That played out on Sunday night like that.
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, it sucks to be all
Speaker 1: sorry about it sucks. All right, Well, appreciate you guys, Johns.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna start getting into this
Speaker 1: next game, Cowboys versus Broncos. They will be without Von Miller,
Speaker 1: so that makes it a a little easier. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. We'll talk about the Broncos offense versus the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. Till then. For Dave Hellman, Nicki ben On,
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