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<v Speaker 1>turn into this podcast and I looked like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatles. It's because I've been wearing a baseball hat

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<v Speaker 1>all day at Bears practice. So I apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still have that smooth, silky, rich professional broadcaster

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<v Speaker 1>of voice, which you know I always lean in. Not

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<v Speaker 1>as nice as Danny Parkins, who was I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with one of the pr people for the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>today about Danny Parkins and I do in the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Boy. So I went to the practice. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a massive storm, so they moved it indoors. And the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I was looking for is everybody said Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>Williams lost fifteen pounds. So I talked to him after practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He said thirteen. But there was a breakdown on one

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<v Speaker 1>play and he moved left. And I am not joking.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like a wide receiver. He was always a

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<v Speaker 1>good runner, he is. He looked so fast and he

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<v Speaker 1>was out like the corners had angles and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't, they couldn't catch up on the angle. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, and you know why I lost weight.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be faster, right, he wants to everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>faster in the sport. The second thing that jumped out

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<v Speaker 1>Danny is and it was noticeable. And I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Johnson after practice. He's much tighter like post practice

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<v Speaker 1>during practice, accuracy it's different. He's always been a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a streaky accuracy guy, like he'll be great

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth struggling in the second, but his speed

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<v Speaker 1>was noticeable. He's much tighter with his accuracy. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of blown away. The offense dominated practice as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>So first, I mean, it's rare for offenses to dominate

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<v Speaker 2>defenses early in training camp, right, Normally, like offense is

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<v Speaker 2>more timing, defense is more just like pure reaction and athleticism.

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<v Speaker 2>So normally defenses are ahead of offenses early. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears offense needs to dominate because their defense is not

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<v Speaker 2>very good and they've invested a ton on the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>side of the ball with draft capital, with head coaching,

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<v Speaker 2>HighRes et cetera. So like it's good that the offense

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<v Speaker 2>is beating the Bears defense, Like the if the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>are going to win, they're going to be doing it

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<v Speaker 2>with the top ten, maybe top five offense in the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>So like that that's that to me, It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a prerequisite, like they need to be beating the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>defense in camp slimmed down Caleb like faster Caleb is

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<v Speaker 2>a scary thought for the league. Oh because it looked

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<v Speaker 2>so he looked like a wide receiver. Great, bring it

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<v Speaker 2>on and listen. I people have been like like the

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<v Speaker 2>producers on the show, and like, let's do the like

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<v Speaker 2>are the Bears a regression candidate? Topic? Like, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>offend me to suggest that the Bears could regress. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be good in order to be a regression candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Rams are a regression candidate, The Patriots are

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<v Speaker 2>a regression candidate. The Broncos are a regression candidate. The

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line will not be as healthy, they will not

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<v Speaker 2>lead the league in takeaways, they will not have seven

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter comebacks. I agreed, agreed, agreed, point conceded, Point conceded,

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<v Speaker 2>point conceited. But if you have one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>talented quarterbacks on Earth with one of the best offensive

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<v Speaker 2>coaches on Earth, and it's year two of them together,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when the jump happens. Like, that's when the leap happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know how you can cover up for areas

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<v Speaker 2>of obvious regression by Caleb being awesome and the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>offense being awesome, which is fully what I expect to

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<v Speaker 2>happen for the Bears this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we all know it's a quarterback coach league, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was Albert Breer was standing next to me during

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<v Speaker 1>the practice and we were talking about this. We're like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not that many combinations where you have a coach

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone agrees that's an elite coach and a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>everybody goes that's an elite quarterback talent. You have Vrabel,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh McDaniel who runs the offense, and Drake May Harbor,

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert McVeigh and an older Stafford. I think Dan Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>and golf qualify is very respected both sides. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Johnson and Caleb and then you start saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Shanahan, I don't think Brock Purdy is I think

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<v Speaker 1>Brock Purty is efficient. I don't think he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert class. Now I would have said Demko Ryan c J. Stroud,

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<v Speaker 1>but c J. Stroud regressed badly last year. So the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is now now there's an argument, Matt Stafford, Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Love they've had bad Septembers that they probably in that class. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Leafleur, Jordan Love. But there's about eight of them,

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<v Speaker 1>nine of them in the league. In Chicago's one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, I think that. Like, so I covered the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs when Andy Reid got to Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to read Mahomes right exactly and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things, but I was there before Mahomes got there.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things, like when I really dug

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<v Speaker 2>into Andy Reid that was so impressive was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>look at all of these different guys who had their

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<v Speaker 2>best season with Andy Reid. Sure, Donovan McNabb, Alex Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>but also Jeff Garcia, Kevin Cobb, Mike Vick. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever level of quarterback talent you had, when you got

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<v Speaker 2>with that coach, you had your best season or seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he got the homes and it was five thousand yards,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty touchdowns, MVP's super Bowls, like the great offensive minds.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, brock Perty is an elite processor. He's very accurate,

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<v Speaker 2>but he doesn't have the biggest arm. He's not the biggest,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the fastest, he's not the strongest. When you

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<v Speaker 2>but like when you have Kyle Shanahan, your floor is

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<v Speaker 2>really high. But like I have no doubt Kyle Shanahan

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<v Speaker 2>traded three first round picks to try to go get

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<v Speaker 2>Trey Lance, like he he wanted the elite, super talented

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<v Speaker 2>player because if you can blend, if you can blend

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<v Speaker 2>the ninety nine percent talent with the ninety nine percent coach,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you get MVPs and Super Bowls. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what Stafford and McVeigh have shown, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>Reid and Mahomes have shown, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Johnson and Caleb are going to show. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Ben Johnson is in that McVeigh Shanahan some level

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<v Speaker 2>of coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little closer to that one. I have somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>of a relationship with Ben Johnson, not much, but like

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<v Speaker 2>he's been on the show, we text a little bit whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think, if you're a Jaguars fan, you're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that Liam Cohen is also in that group. He helped

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<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield, He got you, you know, Trevor Lawrence to

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<v Speaker 2>have one of his best season ever and be a

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<v Speaker 2>top seven MVP guy. Like I'm not saying there's only

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<v Speaker 2>three or four of them, but if you have top

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<v Speaker 2>flight offensive coaching mind who is a play caller, and

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<v Speaker 2>that gives you stability of system and all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you inject them with top flight talent. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think your floor is so damn high as an

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<v Speaker 2>offense in a football team that I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>many outcomes where it can be a disaster or the

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<v Speaker 2>team could be bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was interesting. They drafted this kid out of Stanford,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Rouch, who was viewed as a blocking tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's just he he looks like an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL eight year tight end. He is a big, strong

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, he'll play.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to move, they want they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>the leaders in the trend right of two and three

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<v Speaker 2>tight end sets. And you know, if you put small

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the field, we will run at you. If

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<v Speaker 2>you put big guys on the field, we will pass

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<v Speaker 2>at you. Like they they want to be among the

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<v Speaker 2>leaders in that evolution of football. So here's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole Sophie Cunningham story is really interesting. I know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well we can right right turn.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of times and in my morning meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big discussion. What's a topic and what's

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<v Speaker 1>just a hot topic on the internet. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've said before, I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things our show does well, we talk about what the

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<v Speaker 1>country's talking about. But you can get fooled very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what the internet is talking about. So when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to like trans athletes, you know, listen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's captivating on certain platforms, but on mainstream cable television,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on broadcast TV, how many trans athletes are

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the WNBA zero. So it's like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>it as a topic. Then Sophie Cunningham, who works at

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<v Speaker 1>the Volume, you know, says, you know, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was that explosive, but it's a topic that is

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<v Speaker 1>just explosive, and she brings it up. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I asked my wife about it yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, I have no idea what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, right, like, so, I'm like, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>my wife doesn't love sports, but she no If I

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<v Speaker 1>said to her, oh, you know, if somebody got traded,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, I know, it's all over. Plus her

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<v Speaker 1>sons are at you know, sports lovers, and I'm her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's got some sense of it. But what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>I mean about the whole thing is I texted somebody

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. I said, in my life, good leaders

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<v Speaker 1>who I've worked with or for have one thing in common.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they go to Ivy League schools. Sometimes they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to Jayc's. It's not an education thing. They're really

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<v Speaker 1>good leaders. Take little campfires and don't allow them to

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<v Speaker 1>be infernos, like they're always a step ahead. George Bodenheim

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<v Speaker 1>or ESPN. I've talked about he just ESPN every day

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<v Speaker 1>you had something right, like you have to put fires

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<v Speaker 1>out and on this trans topic for the WNBA, like

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<v Speaker 1>you could see it coming down the road, and like

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<v Speaker 1>players talking about it, and I feel like Kathy Engelbert,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like now they're reeling now. I mean, Sophie Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>basically gets closed line that looked like Bill Lambier going

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<v Speaker 1>after Kurt Rambus. So now you've got You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this stuff like player on player owners screaming

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<v Speaker 1>at fans for the Seattle storm. And my big takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>on this is, Jesus, could you guys get ahead of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just constantly playing catchup. And I do wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>it were just reached a point where listen, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to get a new commissioner in here. Adam Stilber's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to get a new commissioner. The league's exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just not built for it. But I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>that Seattle Storm owner the Clothesline hit on Sophie Cunningham'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just you're in reaction mode every third day.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time we talked about the WNBA on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I said the thing as a not daily, weekly, monthly

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<v Speaker 2>WNBA viewer, but just a viewer of sport who likes

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<v Speaker 2>big same into big events, in big games, and like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was swept up in Caitlin Clark and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not claiming to be a WNBA expert, but

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<v Speaker 2>just as a I would say, an expert of media

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<v Speaker 2>and sport. It's very clear that they have outgrown their leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what I said to you the last time

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<v Speaker 2>we were on, which was six news cycles ago, probably

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it. I agree with you, they've outgrown their leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>This story, though, it really does make me mad because

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are pretending to care about it are

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<v Speaker 2>doing so just so transparently out of self interest slash

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<v Speaker 2>motivation for like to cash in on the commerce of rage.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, it is not one of the ten

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty to fifty biggest issues facing mainstream people in America, right, inflation, wars, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>There's a million things going on. And then you have

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<v Speaker 2>these people that were so adamant that athletes needed to

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<v Speaker 2>stick to sports when they were talking about topics that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't like, But now when they see a topic

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<v Speaker 2>that they feel like benefits politically their side of the aisle, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why isn't Caitlin Clark speaking out for Sophie Cunningham And

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<v Speaker 2>why is't Kathy Ingelber doing this in the WNBA should

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<v Speaker 2>do this? And they did it. You don't care, You

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually care. And so it's just it's so transparently

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<v Speaker 2>transactional that it really does to me bring out like

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<v Speaker 2>the worst in all of us and in common terry,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just it bums me out, like on like

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<v Speaker 2>a like a human level, because like, again I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge WNBA fan or consumer, but objectively it's going well,

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<v Speaker 2>record attendance, record ratings, record, Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The quality of play is better than a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The quality of plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Much like a franchise valuation, expansion investors, superstar talent across

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<v Speaker 2>the league in number of places, like it's objectively going, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a basketball league with great basketball that is gaining

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<v Speaker 2>in popularity and money. And then they so then these

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<v Speaker 2>just like people just try to siphon out the joy

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<v Speaker 2>to feed into culture war stuff that it just it

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<v Speaker 2>makes it it makes it so that the basketball is

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<v Speaker 2>so secondary or tertiary that it it bums me off

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<v Speaker 2>for people who are actual legitimate WNBA fans, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do wonder like maybe they have to walk past a

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<v Speaker 2>protest walk into an arena, but then they go to

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<v Speaker 2>an arena and they watch great basketball and they leave happy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, are we just we're just bringing the

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<v Speaker 2>worst of the internet front and center and it just

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like the league and its fans deserve so

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<v Speaker 2>much better.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, also, just because Caitlin Clark and I did an

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<v Speaker 1>essay this week, I saw this just because Caitlin. Just

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<v Speaker 1>because Caitlin Clark did not want to talk about an

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<v Speaker 1>issue that Sophie brought up, it doesn't mean they're not

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<v Speaker 1>close or great teammates. I mean, like Michael Jordan was

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<v Speaker 1>a political Tiger Woods a political Lebron James Moore political,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you can be best for I have friends

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<v Speaker 1>that are hyper political. I'm not. I'm kind of agnostic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a social liberal, fiscal moderate to conservative. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it that much. I do think there was

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, I'll say you an interesting moment. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a month before the Trump Kamala Harris, Uh yeah. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at a club called the nine hundred Club in Manhattan Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nine hundred member club, very much hoodies and

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<v Speaker 1>tennis shoes. But it's like where you go if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a local during the summer. It gets packed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very terurist that you go inside and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a watering hole, real nice, like a lot of sports.

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<v Speaker 1>You go watch a UFC fight or a college football

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<v Speaker 1>game on Saturday. It's my favorite place in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was about a month before the election. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I go there, you know, everybody's asking we talk sports, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you talk. Maybe your kid's doing something, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really instructive. I was sitting there a month

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<v Speaker 1>for the election and it's like eight guys and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about ready to go. Two beers get in my car,

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<v Speaker 1>drive a mile, go home, and somebody brings up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of young like eighth grade basketball, eighth ninth

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<v Speaker 1>grade basketball in Orange County, which is the southern county

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<v Speaker 1>south of La County, Orange County, like kind of legendary

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of TV shows, reality shows right La Counties,

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood and stuff, Dodgers Stadium, usc All, that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>somebody brings up their friend had a daughter that played

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<v Speaker 1>against a team that had some trans athletes and that

0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the biological boys just dominated. And I sat there for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes and I didn't say a word because I

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, you and I observe a lot for

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<v Speaker 1>a living, Like we talk a lot on the air,

0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but off the air, we observe two talk. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was so visceral and so intense. I remember getting in

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<v Speaker 1>my car going home that night and telling Anne, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Trump's gonna win. I've never seen guys get

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<v Speaker 1>so worked up. Here's like forty five year old, fifty

0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:51.080
<v Speaker 1>year old guys. We just don't talk politics in that place.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked sports, family, Hey, where'd you go on vacation?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just a beer games are on and

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<v Speaker 1>so I do think if you have daughters who play

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<v Speaker 1>in sports, I think it becomes much more personal. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't my stepdaughters are like, they'll ski, you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that kind of stuff. They're not team sports kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think if I had four daughters and

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<v Speaker 1>I was living in it, i'd probably have I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have a more emotional response. My kids aren't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they golf, they ski, they don't do team sports. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's like I asked my wife, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>told you, I asked my wife about it this week.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I don't know what you're talking about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just done a topic in our house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, man, I don't know. I just maybe I'm naive.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think that what is happening is that

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people are transitioning to get a leg

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<v Speaker 2>up in sports. Like I just I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that is like a the motivation or the

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<v Speaker 2>end goal or anything like that. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>this is, like I said, I think it is a

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<v Speaker 2>win politically for one side to amplify it, to make

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<v Speaker 2>it seem like a much, much, much bigger issue than

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Not saying that there are not incidents where

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<v Speaker 2>it is an issue. Not saying that it is not

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<v Speaker 2>something that should be addressed with common sense, just I

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<v Speaker 2>think that empathy and common sense should carry the day.

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea that this is some sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, national crisis, I just I just reject

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<v Speaker 2>it on its merits. Like again, I would say to

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<v Speaker 2>people who really like, I think that a bigger issue

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<v Speaker 2>in the trans world of again issues, I'm saying that awkwardly,

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize, would be like Google's suicide rate among trans

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<v Speaker 2>people feels like a bigger deal to me than the

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<v Speaker 2>high school sports team feels like a bigger deal. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just we don't get anywhere near that amount of

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<v Speaker 2>coverage because it's that's not a political winner. So and again,

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<v Speaker 2>the most obvious point to make is the people who

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<v Speaker 2>wanted athletes to stick to sports now when it's an

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<v Speaker 2>issue that the AC is a win for their side,

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<v Speaker 2>don't want them to stick to sports at all, which

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<v Speaker 2>just makes the whole thing so transparently pathetic. It's just bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just utter and complete bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL preseason because he stopped playing any of his

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<v Speaker 1>starters and everybody said, huh, they will be soft and

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<v Speaker 1>going to start week one, so I don't care. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have found myself And maybe it's because I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers are reeling, encircling the drain. But I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I have found myself the last two to three years

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<v Speaker 1>in August being much more engaged with baseball races. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is I think this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>baseball maybe incidentally, maybe it's just been a matter of luck.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cub's good, Yankees interesting, Dodger's reeling, Brave's excellent, Here

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<v Speaker 1>come the Astros. It's like all these brands, Red Sox

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest team in like eight years, Like they can't

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<v Speaker 1>lose games. And I've got to tell you the trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I didn't know half the pitchers going

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<v Speaker 1>to these teams outside of like, you know, the Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>got somebody from the Jays i'd heard of. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>found myself one of the rare instances, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>choosing in August. I'm choosing some baseball on TV instead

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<v Speaker 1>of like looking at mock drafts and caring about football

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL preseason. Do you share that sentiment or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm real into the Cubs right now. I'll tell you that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am, we want to do a whole PCA

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<v Speaker 2>for MVP conversation, like, am I am your huckleber.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Crawl Armstrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy is so cool and such a great athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been able to work with him a little

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>bit just I don't want to overstate it, but like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things for the big charity event that

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I do in Chicago and partnership with the Cubs. He

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<v Speaker 2>just gets it. He's awesome. I'm so happy for him

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<v Speaker 2>because he is the best defensive center fielder in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the fastest players of the game. Had a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of power last year, but he swung and missed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, a lot, a lot of strikeouts, and early

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>on in this season he was really struggling. And it

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't even like take the All Star break. It was

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 2>like he just decided I'm gonna have a good eye now,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>which is just like not something that's supposed to happen

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>in baseball. Like that's like you can maybe develop it

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:18.719
<v Speaker 2>over years. You're not supposed to be able to just

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>like snap your fingers and like you know what, I'm

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>going to lay off the two to two cutter out

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 2>of the zone so that I can get a better

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 2>pitch on three to two, and his walk rate is up,

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<v Speaker 2>his on base percentage is way up, and he's the

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<v Speaker 2>MVP of the league because show Hay hasn't pitched enough

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<v Speaker 2>and has been a good offensive player but not the

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>best offensive player. And show has won four of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So if PCA keeps this up for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the next five weeks and doesn't win MVP, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a problem. He deserves it well.

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<v Speaker 1>I also I went to I watched all three of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cub Dodger games, the first two especially the other

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>one was in the afternoon when I was on so

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<v Speaker 1>I went and youtubed it and read about it and

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<v Speaker 1>watch the highlight of it. But there was no question

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 1>if you watched the series that the Cubs had more juice.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, the lost in this Trek Scooball acquisition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dodgers is they're old Mookie beps looks shot,

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<v Speaker 1>Freeman's dinged up. Otani had a two home run game

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<v Speaker 1>in the last game of the series. But the truth

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<v Speaker 1>with the Dodgers is Blake Snell, Tyler Glasnow, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a hey, let's add a helipad to the yacht. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a somebody throw us a life preserver. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have watched the Dodgers play against the Red Sox and Cubs,

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<v Speaker 1>they looked like a team that had two really long

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<v Speaker 1>playoff runs and they look old, beat up and tired.

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>They don't have a lot of juice.

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I wonder if that is just because it's

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.719
<v Speaker 2>so clearly everything about them is defined by do they

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 2>win a World Series or not? Because when they got

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 2>scuball and they put up the five man rotation and

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 2>they just like do those graphics like what like we do?

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Like when the Sixers acquire Lebron and you put up

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 2>the Sixers rotation and it's you know, show Hay and

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Schooable and glass now and now it's just like it's

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 2>outrageous the number of name brand talent that they have everywhere.

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>They are the most talented team. But the Cubs, you know,

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>they dug themselves a hole, and you know they're still

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to chase down the Brewers and like that division

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>is just a rock fight all the time. But Wriggly

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Summer comes alive with a great Cubs team,

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>like it's impossible for them not to have juice. And

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I know Dodger stadium crowds are big, and I know

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>they have great attendance also, but you've now lived in

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 2>both places. You've been to Dodger Stadium, You've been to Wrigly.

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 2>It's different. Like the the energy and the juice at

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Wrigley is just something.

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's almost a college football game.

0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Crowds, it's just excellent. And so you know, there's good

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Cubs teams always have a lot of juice in July

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and August because kids are out of school, kids are

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>back from college. It's beautiful every day. It's packed every

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>single day. Bear season hasn't started yet, so they're front

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>and center. They're leading all of the shows. So yeah,

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>tons of juice around that team. And to your point

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>about preseason, like, yeah, preseason, the things that matter right

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>now are just it's all bad news. It's like Trent

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Williams torn triceps, Luther Burden, Oh, how bad is this

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 2>groin injury going to be? Like, it's just you just

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't want your team to have a news alert

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 2>right now because you just want to get to the

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>games that actually matter. And so, you know, I think

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>turning attention back to baseball is great because there's so

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>much damn talent in the sport right now that it's

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>as good a time as any to kind of sink

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>your teeth in before the playoffs get going.

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's one of the things that's always fascinated me

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>about sports. I like the cultural changes. Like I think

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny how we went from small ball and

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>then Jokic win to title and everybody's like, Okay, you

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>got to have two bigs to defend him, and then

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden Wemby arrives and Oklahoma City is like, no,

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we need three bigs. We're going to draft a die

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Mara with Hart and Stein with chet Holmgren. No, we

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>need three bigs. And I think it's fascinating in the NBA,

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>like the second Apron. Now it's all about God, you

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>can't have. I mean, your bench starts mattering now you

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean like Oklahoma City looked inevitable and then all

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you're like, you know, they're kind of

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>expensive on the bench. I think we've got to make

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>some moves. And I mean the Celtics basically just said

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>we want to get out of the Jalen Brown contract,

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and if we take in Paul George and we can

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>get out of that much easier in a year. We'll

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>just do that. You're like, well, Brown's better than Paul George.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>He plays a lot of games. And I think one

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>of the things that baseball when you're when you're efficient

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and smartly run, which I don't think baseball was ten

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.479
<v Speaker 1>years ago or five years I think they are now.

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I've made this argument is that rich guys, when

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the money's coming in, don't impede the money. Is that

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>what if milwalk because the Dodgers are not a lock,

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and by the way their cubs have right and the

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Cubs pitching, they made moves at the trade deadline, they

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>may be a little light. If Milwaukee gets to the

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>World Series, do you think all the billionaires are going

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to say, oh God, the books are in What a season?

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Because that's my take. The Rays right now are second

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>in batting average, The Rays are number one hitting team,

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>runners in scoring position. They're built for the playoffs. They're

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>just they don't they don't need a ton of power.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It is station station baseball. What if the Rais and

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Brewers get to the series, it won't be captivating nationally.

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't believe that the lockout is inevitable. Like,

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>let's just eight till the playoffs happen. Okay, So I

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>mean there's a lot there. Like I I do think,

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I think you're we're probably saying the same thing. I

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>do think baseball is going to lock out.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Now, they're not gonna they're not guaranteed to miss games,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 2>but there will be a like a lockout will happen

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>when this CBA expires. Now, whether or not it impacts

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a single thing of spring training or not, I don't know.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>But I've been basically assured that the lockout is coming.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just a question of if it goes into to

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>next season. You know some of these teams, and you

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 2>mentioned the two that are probably the poster child of

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>each league, the Brewers and the Rays. They're just excellently

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>run teams. Like the Brewers have a better run differential

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>than the Dodgers. Now that it's by one run, I

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>just checked it to be it be updated. But like

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the Brewers are amazing. They can lose. They can lose

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>their ace, they can lose their closer, they can lose

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>their manager, which they have over the last three years,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>they've lost all of them. Hater and counsel, et cetera.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>And they just keep doing it. It's amazing. Same thing

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>with the Rays. The Rays are just a great organization

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and they compete in the Al East with the biggest

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>spenders and the biggest teams, and they just keep doing it.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean they're going to win, doesn't mean they have one,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 2>but they give themselves a shot each and every year.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So and that's what people point to of saying you

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>can't buy a World Series. You can't. And it's like,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>but you can buy yourself margin for error, Like that's

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>that's to me, like what the Dodgers have built in now,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Like the Dodgers have built in a tremendous amount of

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>margin for error that one or two or three or

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>four guys can get hurt and they can still go

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 2>on and win the whole thing. That's not what the

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Brewers have going for them. Even the Cubs, dude, Like

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the Cubs you mentioned their pitching is a little light.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>There was a time earlier this year where thirteen pitchers

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>who had pitched in the big leagues were on the

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>injured list, like and it was like it's just they

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>kept getting hurt time and time and time again. But

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 2>The Cubs have a great organization, They're very deep, they

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>spend a ton of money, so they were able to

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>withstand it in a way that a team like the Brewers,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>if they had that amount of pitching injuries, would not

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>be able to. But baseball's in an interesting spot because

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I think the talent is as good as it's ever been.

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>The business is clearly very very very healthy, but the

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>owners seem to be convinced they need a salary cap,

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and the players seem to be convinced that they'll never

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>give it, will never give in on it. So I

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>do think I think there is at least a chance

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that we miss games for a work stoppage for the

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 2>first time since nineteen ninety four in baseball, which would

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>be devastating because there's nothing less relatable in a time

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>of inflation and high gas prices and all of it

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>than millionaires and billionaires fighting. And it would just be

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 2>a shame because baseball has a lot of momentum going

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>for You mentioned the leadership, the rules changes, the big market,

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 2>all of them have been done.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>They've had a home run on like eight changes, eight

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>for eight.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>And the big markets are good, and there's young stars

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>in the game, Like there's a million things that baseball

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>has going for it. So I really really hope, and

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess can be cautiously optimistic that the two sides

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>will realize like is this situation perfect? No, but we

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.959
<v Speaker 2>we should not kill the golden goose here in miss games?

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it a lockout if you don't miss a spring

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>training game? That's almost like saying.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>That's true, that's true, Like I think that's definition. It

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>is a lockout. But to your point, like if nothing

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>actually is mess do the fans care? But like the

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>CBA is going to expire without a deal, which I

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 2>think makes it a lockout. You know, so.

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like I only worry if I go to

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Fox and my key card doesn't sure that's a lock out.

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Everything else is they're mad at me during negotiations for

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a month. I'm like, it's not really a lot lockout?

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Is you put that card up?

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, I'm I'm I am a hundred that

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>is one hundred percent true. I just know that if

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Passon says there's going to be a lockout, there's

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lockout. That's that's what I know. He

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>is my uh he is my north star on this

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. So there will be a lockout, will

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>they miss games? I think that is still very much

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 2>up in the air. And yeah, man, like it's the

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>baseball playoffs. They're great. Like, you want to go to

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 2>a Cubs playoff game this year?

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, well, I'm going to them. I'm first of all,

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been to two Cup games this year. I'm going

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to the Bears game Saturday night, sitting in a pretty

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>swanky box. I don't want to give it away, And

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I am going to a You know, my wife's so funny.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you know, I don't talk about sports around

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>her because she doesn't really care. You know, she likes

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>dog videos and culinary stuff on TikTok, but she you know,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>she reads the news every day, but she doesn't want

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to get into it. And Dan, I say, I was

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>talking to a friend about the Cubs. She's say, oh,

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to the gates. I'm like, well,

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>come on, you can't just jump on you can't jump

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>on the that's kind of a bandwagon fan.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. And I say this as a card

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>carrying member of Cubs Nation. We're familiar with Bandwagon jumpers.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>It's Wriggly is littered with him. It is a reputation

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>that is well earned. It's a national landmark. It's why

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>we sell out the stadium when the team wins seventy

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>two games because Wriggly is awesome. So Anne is more

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 2>than a welcome to bandwagon jump for a summer at Wrigley.

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Just get her an old style and a hot dog.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 2>She'll fit right in.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I bought her a Wriggly cub shirt. She's Irish with

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>an Irish green clasher with a with a clover. And

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>when you go to Wrigley Field, and I've said this before,

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>if it was in Belgium, if it was in you know, Florence,

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Italy or something, you'd literally say, oh, it's a bucket list.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like going It's like going to watch Manchester United

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Wrigley Field. For those who have never done it, and

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>in the Midwest, everybody's done it, diehard baseball fans have

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>done it. It is like nothing else. It is a

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>college football game eighty one times a year in this

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>really cool part of the city. And you go to

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Mers and you go to the game and afterwards and

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>then you can go on Sheffield or Waveland Avenue, which

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I did the other day. It's nothing like it in

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the country. There's nothing like.

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I completely agree, obviously I'm insanely biased, and like when

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 2>the Cubs were when when theo Epstein was there, and I,

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>by the way, congratulations on the success of the pod

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and the live event. It was. I loved every Oh god,

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I listen to every episode. I ate it up. It was.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 2>It was spectacular content. But like they all also knew

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 2>how special it was. The private room and the upstairs

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 2>at Murphy's which is basically just an apartment, but like

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>that's where like theo is throwing parties when they would

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>win playoff series, and like because it's just like everyone

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>like Cubs players walk to the games. They live in

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood, they bike to the games because it's such

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>a cool part of the city. And so yeah, whether

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>you whether you're a Cubby Bear guy, a Murphy's guy,

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>a Slugger's guy, people say like that the neighborhood has

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 2>changed so much, and it's like it it there is

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 2>definitely turnover because post COVID and bars and restaurants, it's

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a tough business, like, but the institutions are all still

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 2>there like Murphy's Sluggers, Cobby Bear, They're all still there.

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just a it's a it's a great thing. And

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean rig has been transformed. Man. Like we talk

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 2>about these news teams and new stadiums, like the Bills

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 2>are going to be debuting a new stadium this year.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been to the one for the Rams yet.

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I have been to the Cowboys State Like sometimes they

0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 2>all feel little sterile and corporate and cookie cutter, and

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, all just as many suites as possible with

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>as big of a video board as possible. It is

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 2>an amazing thing what they've done with Wrigly to like

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 2>add in a video board, improve the suites, add in

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the club seating, like to like generate more money and income,

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 2>build the hotel across the way, do Gallagher Way, which

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>is like an outdoor area where you can come in

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>and out of the stadium during the gameplay with your kids,

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the games on, have beers whatever. And it's still the

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 2>brick wall, the manual scoreboard, the ivy, the narrow seats,

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>like it is still Wriggly Field. And so it's a

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 2>it is a really incredible job of like modernizing a

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>landmark without changing it. And it's just it's a perfect

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 2>sports venue. It really is.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Listen, there's a lot of things talking about controversial topics that.

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>There are certain journalistic principles I follow. If I break

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a story, I have to have two sources. That's just

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the general rule. If I get a really hard quote

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>on somebody, a real harsh quote, I want it double sourced.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And so.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>But there are stories that I'm not going to let

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 1>myself be guilted in. I just don't care. And one

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of them is the Rabel Russini story, which I talked

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>about once on my podcast. When it happened, I said, Okay,

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a moral issue for him because she's a journalist.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>There's an ethical standard on sourcing. It's an ethical and

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>moral in story for her. That's her career. When I

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>see people continuing to probe on it, my take is

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>like if I cover the Patriots, I don't care. Like

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 1>it happened for Rabel, he's not getting fired. Coaches don't

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>get fired for that. It's a moral family story. I

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>don't really care. There's a lot of stuff I don't

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>know about that happens. Right for Russini, I do think

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a story in the journalism club New York Times Athletic.

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>That's her career, of course, and it's also a moral story.

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>But I have found myself. I've had people from time

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to time go, how can you don't talk about it? No?

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I did for about ten minutes, and I'm no longer interested,

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and that probably means I'm not a journalist. Is it

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a story going forward? I don't care.

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that Mike Tomlin said, like, if they lose,

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.959
<v Speaker 2>it's like early, it's going to become the noise around

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 2>it is going to become very loud, Like what is

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>going to be the criticism that an affair was allegedly

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>uncovered four months before the season started, So that's why

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 2>they're losing games in September. Like, that's like a pretty

0:40:55.760 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 2>huge leap to make. So I think that listen if

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>it if the Patriots were interested in doing an investigation

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>into him, Like was he using his closeness with a

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>journalist to campaign for a Coach of the Year vote?

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Was he using his relationship with a journalist to try

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to get intel on an opponent ahead of a game plan?

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Was he using his relationship with a journalist to try

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to muddy the waters with Philly and aj Brown so

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 2>that the price tag would go down so they could

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 2>trade for him. Like I could see there being an

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 2>argument for there being some sort of ethical quandary ish,

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>but he was in the Super Bowl last year, so

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>they don't care, well, you know what I mean. Like,

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I think that that is that Also, it's like, if

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 2>your employer is happy with the job you are doing

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and the misdeed that you commit is not directly related

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>to your job, which in his case is winning football games,

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to dig too deep into it. Whereas

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 2>if to your point about her, this is it is obvious,

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 2>like if you are using a romantic relationship to further

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>yourself with a source, that is obviously something that needs

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 2>to they have bylaws of the New York Times, these

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 2>types of thing relationship personal relationships with the sources need

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>to be disclosed. But clearly it is more ethically black

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and white in the newspaper online newspaper business of black

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 2>and white journalism than it is being a football coach

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of the AFC champions I think.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>It's the kind of thing and I believe this with

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a Tony Romo situation that is the compresson league. Okay,

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>So with Mike Vrabel, if Mike Rabel was in year

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>four and was on the fence, employer goes, you know

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>your leadership has been in question. You just you just

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>booted it. Tony Romo, if he was as good as

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>many of the other guys, his company would support him greatly.

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Al Michael's got a DUI. There was no talk about

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>losing his job. Romo is highly compensated. Kind of feels

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes as a quarterback in a broadcaster, he's kind

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of ad libbing, you know, when you have one game

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 1>a week to do and Jim Nantz does a majority

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>of the talking. I don't think I'm out of bound

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that there are situations. They can be moral, they

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>can be ethical. Obviously, let's not minimize you know, drinking

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and having a cocktail in a car. That's bad. Nobody's

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>saying it's not. But I do think there is something

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>about those situations where when you're vulnerable. Vrabel wasn't Romo

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>is it does change outcomes potentially, of course.

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Right. Let's like I don't have to treat everybody equally.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I just have to treat everybody fairly. Like, yeah, like

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.479
<v Speaker 2>if if they if they weren't happy with the job

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 2>that Mike Rabel was doing, they could have said they

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 2>could have been like morality clause, embarrassment to the franchise,

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 2>you had to miss day three of the draft, dereliction

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>of responsibilities, you're fired. But he but they were in

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:24.439
<v Speaker 2>the super Bowl, and he's a patriot guy and they

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>love him, so they're like, dad, do what you need

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to do. Like, not everybody has to play by the

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>same set of rules in life. Tony Romo was the

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 2>greatest thing in broadcasting, now perceived to not be very

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.240
<v Speaker 2>highly paid. Like I feel a little badly like putting

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>another current person's name into it, Like so I don't

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Charles Barkley. Everybody agrees best basketball analyst, highly paid, incredibly valuable.

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 2>They want him to work for as long as he

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>wants to work. If the exact same thing happened to Charles,

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 2>does anybody think he's in danger of losing his job?

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you're right. So it's interesting with Romo too,

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>because media critics have had the knives out for him

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>for years and they can be a little little jaded.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.479
<v Speaker 1>But it was funny because about them. Yeah, two weeks ago.

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was at an event and his name came up

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was kind of front and center that the

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin open container, right, which we found out about three

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>or four days after the story came out. He had

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>an open container and it was funny. Whereas the critics

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>crush him. The guys in the room I was with

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>or like, I like Romo. I think he's funny on

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the air, and again when I watch him, I don't

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>think he's as meticulous as Greg Olsen right or as

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>or right like, I don't think he is. But is

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>he as bad as the sense Like My take is

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the average fan out there thinks Romo's kind of fun

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and goofy andly easy to listen. Yeah, probably true and

0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like listen, But executives don't like the negative publicity from

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the credit exactly exactly.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 2>It's one thing that I like. I've toyed with the

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>idea of quitting Twitter because I just I don't it's

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a cesspool and it's before you tab is rage bait,

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and I genuinely think it's divisiveness by design, and so

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's great. But like our bosses are

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 2>all on Twitter, like there's a there is a Our

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 2>industry is all on Twitter, and so there is like

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a self perpetuating thing. It's like, oh,

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Twitter doesn't like Tony Romo, or Twitter knows that criticizing

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Tony Romo gets views and gets played into the algorithm

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and gets aggregated and makes it onto the websites and

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 2>all that. And I have criticisms of a ton of broadcasters, right,

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not I do think that it is a

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 2>fair thing to say that. Like when he first started,

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the energy and the predicting of plays was a novelty

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and I was transfixed by it. And then as he's

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>gotten further from being in the game, and they also

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 2>clearly told him like, don't tell us what's gonna happen beforehand.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>It spoils the surprise, Like his magic trick has been

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of neutered. And the thing that bothers me the

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 2>most about Romo as an analyst is he says, I

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know way too much. I'm like, you're the analyst,

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Like what Jim will be like fourth and four here, Tony,

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 2>what do you think is a field goal or a

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>go for it spot? And He's like, I don't know,

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Jim it's a tough call. I'm like, no, man, that's

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 2>your job, like you have to you say, I don't

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>know too much for my personal liking, and so like that.

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 2>That is my criticism of It's not his energy. It's

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 2>not as joke with me like that's fine. It's he says,

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know too much for my from my liking.

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>As an analyst, I always think that you become the

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 1>broadcaster you were as a quarterback. So the story of

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Brady the football player is legendary, where Belichick's like, well,

0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't very good initially, and then all of a

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>sudden becomes the goat and every year there's these massive jumps.

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what he was as a broadcaster. You know, he'd

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>never done it. He was rough around the edges, and

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the last year, you're like, Jesus, he's good, like really

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>knows what's happening. Romo always caught people's attention because of

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>his athletic ability. But I had it pretty well sourced,

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 1>well meticulously, so somebody in the locker room was like,

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>but he kind of skimped on the details. He was

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit of an ad liver. He wasn't the hardest worker,

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but he was naturally really athletic, funny, guys liked him.

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>There was some leadership stuff there. So that's kind of

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>what he's been in a broadcaster. One starts rough, gets

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>very good quickly, one starts surprisingly good, and then over

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the course of time, you're like, is he really putting

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the time in wait? And I think your personality becomes

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>your quarterback personality becomes your broadcasting person.

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think you and I forget about it.

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 2>We watch all the games and every day and all that.

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>My father has passed away. But like I remember when

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>got hired, it was like like my dad knew who

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Tony Romo was quarterback of the Cowboys, you know, like

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>there is a Q factor to those jobs. Sure that

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like fame is a huge piece of it. Like

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you get Tom Brady to be your broadcasters like these

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady and he does work really hard at it

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and he has gotten a lot better. But like Chris

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 2>collins Worth has to do a little bit more, you know,

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 2>just because he's Chris collins Worth. He's not Tony Romo

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>or Troy Yeikman or Tom Brady. Right, Greg Olson has

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to do a little bit more. I'm really interested I

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>thought that Luke Keikley hire was really interesting. Like everyone

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 2>says he's one of the smartest players ever, and people

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 2>said he he aced the audition, and like, I can't

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 2>wait to watch it because like, yeah, a linebacker is

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that's a unique person to have as a solo analyst

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:53.919
<v Speaker 2>and a football broadcast. Like I'm excited to watch Noah

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Eagle and Luke Keickley this year.

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Luke Keithley greg Olsen tied end jj Watt, Like

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 1>there is I mean, you kind of forget like jj

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Watt was always a really thoughtful guy, so you knew

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he'd be pretty good at it. Yeah. I met Luke

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>at a wedding not long ago. He one of the

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 1>most walks up to you, makes eye contact impossible not

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>to like.

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>So likability is the is the secret sauce to this

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 2>thing that we do. And I'm not saying that I

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 2>have it in spades, like so like I have to

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 2>make up for it with great takes, but like, uh,

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, like if you are just like charming and

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 2>likable and easy to listen to to watch, it's a

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a superpower. I say it about my buddy Adam

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 2>lefgo All the time. At now he's he's gotten his

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 2>due and he's the face of Turner Sports. You know,

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 2>air a parent to Ernie Johnson who all that. Like,

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 2>he's unbelievably versatile. He's doing boxing and the French Open

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and the NCAA tournament and college football. He's an amazing

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 2>broadcast baseball playoffs. He does it all for Turner. But

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like left Go in college was popular in a

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 2>frat in some student media, but like he was like

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>he did it more like socially and casually, and I

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 2>remember being like, he's going to be successful. I've never

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 2>met anyone more liked like. Athletes liked him, sorority girls

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>like him, frat guys liked him, Journalism dorks liked him.

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Everyone liked him. Likability is the secret sauce, and so

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 2>he's one of the greatest to do it. And so

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 2>if Luke Keigley has that thing, it'll that charisma, it'll

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it'll come through. It's so valuable.

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>So how do you prepare for a football season? So

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I like him afternoon drinking in the summer, I do

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>not like it in the winter, in the fall, in

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the summer, it's almost a problem. I really enjoy an

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>afternoon cocktail and turning on a sporting event. So over

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the last I got about three or four weeks. Now

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I've got to ramp up. I've got to be in.

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I've got to like, you know, the sauce. It just

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>can't be sauce day every Tuesday. Do you prepare differently? So?

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean I wasn't thinking about the drinking component so much. No,

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 2>like I I obviously footballs are bread and butter. They

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>want us to take some vacations ahead of football season,

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 2>some of us on this call more than others. I

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 2>think I'm filling in for you.

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 1>A few whoa, Hey, that's standing. I'm filling it right,

0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 1>You've earned it.

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm filling in for you on a couple

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 2>of days coming up, of which they still haven't told

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>me which ones not better? Which city am I going

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to be in? No, but like I what I try

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:47.280
<v Speaker 2>to do, even though, like when I did local radio

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, it felt like we were sometimes, you know,

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 2>three feet wide and a mile deep, like all fifty

0:52:55.880 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 2>three guys on the Bears, every position battle, the solar

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 2>reposition coach, the whole thing. Right now, this job at

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 2>FS one, it's more a mile wide and three feet deep.

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I try very hard to be a mile wide and

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred feet deep because I think that that's

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 2>like what I bring to the table. Right I didn't

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 2>play in the NFL. I'm more I'm the smart guy.

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm the guy who watches the game and knows the numbers.

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And I know people will be like, you're dumb, but whatever,

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Like that's like my lane, right, and so I try

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 2>right now to be consuming the stuff that I'm not

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 2>going to actually need. Like I just got back from

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 2>a week in San franc the San Jose, San Francisco

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>area with my sister and brother in law and their

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 2>kids and my kids, getting the cousins together for a

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 2>week of vacation. So it's six hour flight. I consumed

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of like NFL podcasts of different markets of

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>teams that we're going to talk about, like Eagles pod,

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 2>gast Chargers podcast, Cowboys podcast, like things like like like

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 2>with like beat writers, things like that, whether they were

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 2>going on national shows, division preview shows, whatever the case

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 2>may be. To try to like have a deeper understanding

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 2>of what the things are for the team because then

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:19.280
<v Speaker 2>when we do it, it's you know, Joe Burrow against

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson. But hopefully I can bring a little bit

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 2>more context into it. So I try to because I

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 2>know I'm not going to be able to do that

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>once the season starts and we're doing all the topics

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and all of the games and all the teams. But

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 2>so I try to have a really deep knowledge base

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 2>going into the season, and then during the season, I

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 2>just watch every game and go from there. What about you,

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 2>what do you like? I mean, how do you prep

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 2>it out? Is that what you were asking? Or were

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 2>you literally saying, Danny, do you drink less in football season?

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Was that your question? No?

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I No, it is funny because I in the summer,

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like I golf, I am recreational. I like when I

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>take a two week break in July, the first ten

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 1>days I do not watch TV, Like I give my

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 1>wife ten days of just because then in the last

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>four or five days I go back to watching stuff

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and doing stuff. But no, I I'm like, you know,

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I just what I just constantly do is just watch

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>football stuff. And like I'll watch you know, I'll watch

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the games. I'll watch preseason games, even though I know,

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like I watched every second of Arizona in Carolina every

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>single second, and most of those players, almost all of them,

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>will have no impact. Not a single player there was

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 1>worth half a point in the NFL game. But I

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like the sport, but I would say I go. I

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>would just say it's I did feel like last year

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>because I do think the gap between good and I

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>think what's happened to the NFL because of the importance

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of the quarterback that if you don't have one, it

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>used to be you'd kind of watch everybody until Thanksgiving.

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like there are about six teams

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 1>that by October fifth, it could be sure, Like I

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think Arizona Jets, it could be over like three to

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 1>four games. In Yeah, Miami. I like Malik Willis, but

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he is probably their second best player, and we don't

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>know if he's coming back close two.

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 2>But like they have no talents anyway.

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I would say what's happened to the NFL is a

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>little like college football or the NBA, about thirty percent

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of it I know a lot about in the NFL.

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I always felt it had to be about eighty percent.

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 1>But what I found over the last two to three

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>years is the bottom of the NFL is growing now.

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Next year is a great college quarterback class, so that'll

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 1>be fascinating because even bad teams will have rookie quarterbacks.

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But this year, some of the bad teams are just

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.879
<v Speaker 1>bad teams, uh, and they're not terribly captivating. I don't

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>think the Jets or Arizona. I just don't think those

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>are really interesting teams. But I will say if Minnesota

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>finishes fourth, that's about as good a fourth place team.

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I think the Raiders will finish fourth and it'll be

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:26.000
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. That's one of the things the NFL has.

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>There are bad teams that are good watching. Yes's not

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the case in baseball, hockey or the NBA.

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Like the NBA has it a little bit and like

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to see a great player, like like I

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like if you went to a Mavericks game last

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 2>year and you saw Cooper Flag, you got you got

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 2>your money's worth, even though they were a bad team. Right,

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 2>So like I've I've but like, but that's more like

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 2>you're watching them Wemby's Wemby's first two years exactly like,

0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 2>so I think it actually happens in the NBA. But

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 2>it's different. It's not at all like the team is

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>interesting or an expectation of winning. It's just like I

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 2>want to see how this individual gets through the game,

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 2>how he interacts, how he plays, how he does he

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 2>hang his head, does he whatever? No, Like listen, football

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>is like we don't think Arizona or the Jets or

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins, but like every year there is a surprise

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>team or injuries happen or luck happens. I mean, the

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Broncos won eleven one score games last year. It's an

0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 2>NFL record. Now it's tied with a couple of other teams. Like,

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the Broncos are good. I think it's a

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 2>really talented roster, great coach, great defense, great offensive line.

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's a complete fluke, but they want

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:42.959
<v Speaker 2>eleven one score games like that could go the other

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.360
<v Speaker 2>way that if they go five and six in one

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 2>score games this year, all of a sudden, they are

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a nine win team and we're not talking about them

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 2>very much. So there's a there is a lot of

0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 2>variance in the NFL. You mentioned the vikings, like the

0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Lions finished in the last place week, the Lions ruined,

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the who's the worst? The first team segments that we

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 2>all do in August because every single person would say

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>that the Lions are going to be the worst the

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 2>first team, even if you pick the Bears or the Packers, like,

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>they're clearly the best candidate to go worse to first. So,

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>like the there's a almost every fan base goes into

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 2>an NFL season with hope, maybe not hope of a

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 2>super Bowl, but hope of things could go our way.

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 2>We could win ten games and we could make the playoffs.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I would say, like twenty seven teams go into this.

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jets Arizona, No Jets Arizona, Tennessee, Tennessee. Probably know

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody else, Like I think the Saints are going to

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 1>shock people and win ten to eleven games. Could be wrong,

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think Jets Arizona, Tennessee, you kind of know

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a nine would be.

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Great, great, but it's not going to IM going to

0:59:57.560 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 2>keep throwing Miami and I think I know it's new

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 2>coach Miamis. They have no talent. You're getting so much

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 2>dead money. I think Miami. If I had to pick

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 2>a team right now to get the number one pick,

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I think I'd picked Miami. But like Tennessee is a

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:14.800
<v Speaker 2>good example. Yeah, they don't have much hope, except it's

1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:18.280
<v Speaker 2>year two of a number one pick. Like cam Ward

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 2>could be great. I didn't see it. He didn't have

1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>much around him. He's dealt with coaching turnover and instability

1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:26.720
<v Speaker 2>and all sort, you know what I mean. But like I,

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 2>cam Ward could be great, and so like you you're

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a Titans fan going into this year, I still would

1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 2>imagine there's a decent level of opted. We got Carnell Tate,

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.080
<v Speaker 2>we got him at number one target. We spent money.

1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:42.560
<v Speaker 2>We brought in Franklin Myers, the defensive tackle from the

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 2>from the Broncos, who was awesome on the huge deal

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 2>to put him next to Jeffrey Simms. Like, we've got

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.640
<v Speaker 2>a defensive line, we got a young quarterback, we got

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:52.760
<v Speaker 2>a young wide receiver, Like, let's roll the ball out

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:55.320
<v Speaker 2>there and see. We got a winnable division. Like, let's

1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:57.840
<v Speaker 2>see what we got. You know? So, I think a

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:01.440
<v Speaker 2>lot almost every fan base can at least talk themselves

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:05.120
<v Speaker 2>into hope, which is just an amazing thing that the

1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>NFL has created, which is why it's the best product.

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Danny Parkins, that was good stuff. I appreciate. That was

1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:15.880
<v Speaker 1>over an hour of we even we even got Uh

1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was that controversial.

1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Here's what I'll say. If anything is going to be

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:22.560
<v Speaker 2>aggregated from this podcast, it's clearly gonna be my pc

1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.880
<v Speaker 2>A for MVP take That's what's gonna be. That's what's

1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be aggregated.

1:01:28.520 --> 1:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>That was I gotta be honest, I got I got

1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a little nervous about that time.

1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:35.080
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was scared, it was, it was scared.

1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna learn my agent right now. Hey,

1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:39.480
<v Speaker 2>you might need to do some damage control over the

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 2>next twenty four to forty eight hours for me. Okay,

1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I came for show. Heyo, Tony, this is PCA's league now.

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Colin.