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Speaker 2: I rejected my childhood friend because I didn't want his

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Speaker 3: It's not your mom, Yeah, not the mama.

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Speaker 2: Don't marry your friend. I twenty female, have grown up

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Speaker 2: with my childhood friend twenty two male who will call John.

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Speaker 2: John left for the army when he was eighteen, but

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Speaker 2: despite that, we stayed in touch and I even visited

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Speaker 2: him once or twice where he was boasted by the way.

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Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay Storytime subredit. I used to

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Speaker 2: love John's mother who will call Amy, when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: but when I was fifteen, I overheard her say some

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Speaker 2: mean things about me and my siblings behind our backs

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Speaker 2: to John, who she knew I liked at the time.

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Speaker 2: She said some nasty things like I might become a

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Speaker 2: gardening tool because my birth mother was one, and for context,

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Speaker 2: me and my siblings are all adopted, as well as

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Speaker 2: all of Amy's kids. Or my father told her I

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Speaker 2: don't clean myself, which I know isn't true because my

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Speaker 2: father often complained to her that I showered too often.

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Speaker 2: I like feeling clean and always have, so I might

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Speaker 2: have STDs. Since overhearing these things, I couldn't really bring

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Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, John came for a visit and

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Speaker 2: his mother, Amy, invited my family, as well as a

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Speaker 2: so I stepped outside to get some fresh air and

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Speaker 2: so close. John seemed very disappointed, but he just said

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Speaker 2: calling me and ahole for refusing to court John because

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Speaker 2: so on and so forth. I haven't responded to any

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Speaker 2: I didn't wish to upset anyone, but I do feel

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Speaker 2: my reasons are valid. So am I the a hole

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Speaker 2: and we do have an update. But Angie, what do

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Speaker 2: At least that's how I see it. Who is Miss Mary?

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Speaker 2: She also put John to work too while we were there,

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Speaker 2: so it wasn't just me. John used to help Miss

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Speaker 2: so here's the actual update. Miss Mary sat in a

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Speaker 2: She was saying things like I never said anything mean,

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Speaker 2: understand why you're bringing that up now, and didn't I

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Speaker 2: scolding Amy for her behavior. Miss Mary wasn't yelling, she

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Speaker 2: it was scary how calm but angry she was. Have

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Speaker 2: I have not, but that I feel like that's accurate. That.

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Speaker 2: Amy did try and make excuses for her behavior to

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Speaker 2: at her, and that had just slipped out. He apologized

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Speaker 2: again for that. And by the way, you don't have

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Speaker 2: to apologize to us for listening to full episodes with

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio or Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you listen

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Speaker 2: to your podcast and search, okay, storytime, and there you

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Speaker 2: will find the complete archive of our discography, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Do it, And so we have a little bit of

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Speaker 2: story left. But let's chat for a second on miss Mary.

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Speaker 3: This is so much information. Okay.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I'm imagining everyone in like old peasant clothes,

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Speaker 5: like I'm fully imagining, like there's courtship involved.

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Speaker 3: There's miss Mary.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who she is, Miss Mary.

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Speaker 3: She sounds like like the town's governess.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, she's clearly an authority over Amy. Right.

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Speaker 5: I'm imagining just an old lady that everyone in the town,

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Speaker 5: in this small town of forty people, yes, respect.

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Speaker 2: It's like the town matriarch.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly, that's who I think Marry is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so much has happened.

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Speaker 5: So John didn't mean to tell this stuff to Amy, right,

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Speaker 5: John was just upset on his own and.

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Speaker 2: Then because Amy's being like, well what'd she say?

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Speaker 3: What'd you say?

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Speaker 2: And John's like, I don't want to talk, just just

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Speaker 2: then He's like, she said that she doesn't like you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she said that you're the problem.

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Speaker 5: I really wonder how John feels about this. Is John Madden?

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Speaker 5: Is John just sad.

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Speaker 2: About the whole. I'm sure John's mad at some extent.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like, so this was gonna work

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Speaker 2: if it wasn't for you being like a mean, rude lady,

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Speaker 2: which now Miss Mary knows all about exactly. I also

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Speaker 2: Miss Mary did say that I needed to think long

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Speaker 2: my life partner, and to never settle for anything less,

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Speaker 2: had such a great marriage with her late husband. She

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Speaker 2: also invited me to visit her if I needed a vacation.

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Speaker 2: She lives six hours away on a beautiful lake?

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Speaker 3: Who is this woman? Who is he?

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Speaker 2: Who is Miss Mary? Who is she? That's pretty much

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Speaker 2: everything that happened. And I will be going no contact

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Speaker 2: with Amy, and my father has decided to do the same.

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Speaker 2: I will, however, still be continuing my relationship with John

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Speaker 2: as friends and see how it goes from there. Thank

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Speaker 2: you all so much for all the advice. And that

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Speaker 2: is the end of that story.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that was very interesting, my story.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, Yeah, my money is on miss Mary. Grandma.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems to me the most sense.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to I'm about to do a little search

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Speaker 2: right now just to see. I'm going back to the link. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's part one, but there is there is nothing in

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Speaker 2: the first part of this story about Miss Mary. It's

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Speaker 2: got to be in the comments. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: we can assume Grandma. It's got to be Grandma.

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Speaker 5: Because my wife can't be away from our kid for

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Speaker 3: She would tell my kids she.

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Speaker 5: I felt crazy attack because I wasn't sure if I

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Speaker 3: Less about her divorce.

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Speaker 5: She also didn't have to announce it to my wife

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Speaker 5: Yeah you think, you think, you think, but you know

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Speaker 5: what I know is that you can find full episodes

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Speaker 5: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whatever your favorite podcast app is.

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Speaker 3: Search up. Okay, short time, we'll be read there for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there is a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: This woman is still in love with ople absolutely, like

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Speaker 2: she got divorced at your wedding to one to try

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Speaker 2: to ruin your wedding. Yeah, and also be like, yes,

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Speaker 2: who's single?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I need to know what Opie's wife thinks

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Speaker 5: about this, regardless of what you need to cut her off, yes,

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Speaker 5: cut her out.

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Speaker 2: Yes she is not. She's going to actively try to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, she's already started. Day one, Day one, she's begun.

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Speaker 5: I feel like a terrible friend and an even worse

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Speaker 3: I finally gave up and stopped all contact.

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Speaker 2: Wait, brother, good, she's the bad friend. You are not

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Speaker 5: We still do a daily snap, but that's mainly because

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I'm the a hole in this.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I don't invite her over, talk to

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Speaker 3: So am I the a hole here? We do have

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Speaker 2: Okay, but before we do that. Yeah, and my brain

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Speaker 3: Whoa we're seeing it happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it's like, sure, you block you right, It's

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Speaker 2: but I feel like that that single communication through snapchat

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Speaker 5: So comment number one divorce announcement at weddings. That's a

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Speaker 5: bold strategy. Con Let's see if it pays off for

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Speaker 3: Common.

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Speaker 5: Number two says, she told you that she loved you

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Speaker 5: Why if you want to keep her options open? You

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Speaker 5: are not a bad friend, but you are a moron.

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Speaker 5: Screw the ten years of friendship. No friend acts like that.

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Speaker 5: You should have cut her off a long time ago.

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Speaker 5: How I Number three says, I see people here that

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Speaker 3: This isn't a troll.

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Speaker 5: Why in the world you didn't tell her to stop

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Speaker 5: that she is being a horrible friend, neglecting her promise

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Speaker 5: her to f off when she was making your wedding

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Speaker 3: Grow a spy? Okay, we still snap daily, have some

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Speaker 2: Maybe facts maybe facts there, Maybe he's honest side, maybe

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Speaker 2: a little bit of fact there. But and he can't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so usually if that's the case, it is also

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But but also come on, dude, both yeah, come on.

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Speaker 3: Also those facts.

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Speaker 5: I was waving the red flag earlier, not because of

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Speaker 2: The refusal to cut off. Yeah, the friend.

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Speaker 5: Well just because I mean, if you are dating someone,

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Speaker 3: Like fault, you know what I mean? Yeah, And so

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Speaker 3: if well, I mean, I guess depending you know, I

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Speaker 5: Your partner is actually involved in their best friend of

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Speaker 5: issue to me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

441
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

442
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Speaker 2: That does that does feel feel like a bit of

443
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Speaker 2: an issue, doesn't it. And little man so, I don't know,

444
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Speaker 2: hopefully their marriage, which is still going strong. Yeah, because

445
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: that's all we got. Because that's the end of that story.

446
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 3: That's it. That's its. Please tell us in the comments

447
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Speaker 3: when you think that was a that's a controversial one.

448
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I think I'm you know, I know.

449
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Speaker 2: I asked like, what would you do? I think it's

450
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Speaker 2: very I don't know that last comment made it pretty

451
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: clear to me. Or it's like okay, yeah, I know

452
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: you definitely cut this person off. That's absurd.

453
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I need I need the wife of op

454
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Speaker 3: to comment on this. That's the end of that. Sorry.

455
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 7: I defended my wife against the rude coworker. He quit

456
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Speaker 7: right after.

457
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Speaker 2: Oh that's good defense.

458
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Speaker 7: Alpha Mill. This situation happened in the summer, but it

459
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Speaker 7: got brought back up recently, so I wanted to get

460
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Speaker 7: an unbiased opinion to see if I cross the line

461
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Speaker 7: by the way this comes from you has meegzeki and

462
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Speaker 7: if you want to swing your own stories, go to

463
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Speaker 7: our social Okay story times. Right, there are three important

464
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Speaker 7: points I want to stay for background purposes before I continue.

465
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Speaker 7: I thirty mail have my own business. I've also been

466
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Speaker 7: very fortunate that it's doing amazing and I'm very thankful

467
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Speaker 7: and blessed that it's growing. My wife, twenty eight female,

468
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Speaker 7: works in a corporate job at a well known company,

469
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Speaker 7: which is also her first job out of college. She

470
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Speaker 7: was recently promoted to director. She has people who report

471
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Speaker 7: to her and she reports directly to the senior director.

472
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Speaker 7: My wife and I bought land and had a custom

473
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Speaker 7: made Forever home built in the summer of twenty twenty three.

474
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Speaker 7: We were involved in the whole process, from designing the

475
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Speaker 7: house and choosing what furniture we would get. The entire

476
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Speaker 7: process from house being built to.

477
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Speaker 2: Having it fully furnished took a little over a year.

478
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Speaker 7: We're extremely proud of how it turned out. We loved

479
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Speaker 7: a host gathering, so once the house was done, we

480
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 7: threw multiple parties throughout the year. My wife wanted to

481
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Speaker 7: have a barbecue slash pool party in the summer and

482
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Speaker 7: wanted to invite her coworkers. Because she was inviting a

483
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Speaker 7: lot of them around fifty. We decided to cater food

484
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Speaker 7: and set up out directivities like a bouncy castle, since

485
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Speaker 7: some of them were bringing all their families. Overall, a

486
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Speaker 7: lot of planning and thought went into this, but my

487
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Speaker 7: wife was happy doing it. A couple of days before

488
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Speaker 7: the party, she gave me some background on coworkers I

489
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Speaker 7: had never met. She got to a person named Johnson

490
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Speaker 7: bake but suitable, and also told me he was her

491
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Speaker 7: old boss, a director of a different department, that he

492
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 7: had always treated her like crap. My wife was moving

493
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Speaker 7: up the corporate ladder pretty quickly, and for some reason,

494
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Speaker 7: he wasn't a big fan of it. She started out

495
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Speaker 7: in his department but eventually became a director and his

496
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Speaker 7: equal in terms of position. Asked her why she was

497
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Speaker 7: inviting someone like that, and she said she didn't want

498
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Speaker 7: him to feel left out and made their work relationship

499
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Speaker 7: even worse. I guess she wanted to try and work

500
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Speaker 7: things out outside of company hours to see if anything changed,

501
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Speaker 7: But regardless, she asked me to be on my best

502
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Speaker 7: behavior around him and if he made any snide remarks

503
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Speaker 7: and assured me people to handle it. I'm already over

504
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 7: protective of my wife because she's extremely nice and can

505
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 7: be a little the one towing bag for people, and

506
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Speaker 7: I told her I'd try my best. On the day

507
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Speaker 7: of the party, everything was going smooth. Everyone was having

508
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Speaker 7: a good time by the playing backyard games and using

509
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 7: the bouncy counts. Johnson arrived thirty minutes length, and I

510
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 7: greeted him at the door while my wife was busy

511
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Speaker 7: with the guests. I introduced myself and ushered him to

512
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Speaker 7: where everyone was. Who's actually nice to talk to? At first,

513
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 7: all demeanor change when my wife walked over. It was

514
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 7: like lip switched. I ignored it, but my wife offered

515
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 7: a tour of the house for the guests to arrive late.

516
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Speaker 7: As we went through the house, Johnson kept making negative

517
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Speaker 7: comments about every room, for example, and we showed him

518
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Speaker 7: the living room.

519
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Speaker 3: He said, the.

520
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Speaker 7: Ceilings are too high? Did you guys do that kind

521
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Speaker 7: of pointless to have? No, it's not what if someone

522
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Speaker 7: wants to put a basketball goal up there and they

523
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Speaker 7: want to shoot their phone ball with it. I wish

524
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Speaker 7: I had Tyler ceilings, so I.

525
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Speaker 2: Could do that. Literally, I've never heard anyone go, oh,

526
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Speaker 2: your ceilings are too high. Vaulted ceilings are like a luxury.

527
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Speaker 2: Oh did you ever think about, like maybe working on

528
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Speaker 2: your vertical so you could touch them? Or is that

529
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Speaker 2: a skill issue? Man? Oh, Johnson's got a tiny little

530
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Speaker 2: micro vertical. Confirmed. He jumps like half an inch off

531
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Speaker 2: the ground. He's like Nikola Jokic, that's right.

532
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Speaker 7: When we showed the guest slash poolhouse in the backyard,

533
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Speaker 7: he said, why did you guys build a guest house.

534
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Speaker 3: Your house is big enough.

535
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Speaker 7: It's like you want to show off. He kept making

536
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 7: comments like that, making other guests feel uncomfortable. I count

537
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Speaker 7: my mouse shut at my wife's request, and she awkwardly

538
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 7: laughed to move the tour along. After the tour, we

539
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 7: led everyone to the backyard where the rest of the

540
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Speaker 7: guests were. Everyone except Johnson stayed and he started talking

541
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Speaker 7: to us. He began asking invasive questions like how much

542
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 7: was the house and who paid for most of it?

543
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Speaker 7: I told him that was information I wasn't comfortable sharing,

544
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Speaker 7: so we moved on a little after. While we were

545
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Speaker 7: eating and talking with other guests, the topic of the

546
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 7: house came back up.

547
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Speaker 2: Just can't leave it alone. Kenya Johnson.

548
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Speaker 7: Someone mentioned they loved the backyard layout and asked her

549
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 7: designed it. My wife answered that we designed it ourselves.

550
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Speaker 7: While she was talking, guess who in the world interrupted.

551
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Speaker 2: Her long long john Johnson.

552
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Speaker 8: Johnson interrupted in a very sartastic tutang WHOA be careful

553
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 8: not to ask them how much it was barely it's

554
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 8: private information that only the elite share with each other.

555
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 7: There was an awkward silence.

556
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: At this point. I had enough.

557
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 7: He was clearly trying to embarrass her for no reason.

558
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 7: I responded, it's a problem her ever since you came here,

559
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 7: you've been rude. He just scoffed, said he just wanted

560
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Speaker 7: to know, and then kept silence. I pressed to him

561
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 7: and asked why he didn't even know. He didn't say anything,

562
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 7: just stared. I told him, next time, when people are talking,

563
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 7: you don't need to involve yourself. When I said that,

564
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 7: he suddenly went on a rent. I don't know who

565
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 7: you think you're talking to you like that, but I

566
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 7: thought it was odd and wanted to know how wife

567
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 7: was able to affoid this house on her salary. There's

568
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 7: no way she makes enough for this house. Let me,

569
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Speaker 7: guess you pay for most of it. Cut him off,

570
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 7: min Rent and said, I can talk to you however

571
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Speaker 7: I want. I don't work for you, and neither does

572
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Speaker 7: my wife. This is also our house and if you

573
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 7: don't get to disrespect us here. I don't know what

574
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 7: issues you have with my wife, but they end here

575
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 7: at this point. I'm not proud of this. I just

576
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 7: started in his face and continued, just because you're jealous

577
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 7: of my wife and how she's progressed in her career

578
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 7: while you've stayed in the same position forever long doesn't

579
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 7: give you the right to be the a hole. You

580
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 7: can get the f off my property before I have

581
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Speaker 7: to force you to whoa Yeah, I would say, ley, alright,

582
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 7: sorry I was some character.

583
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good character. I can't scene.

584
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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like the right move was like

585
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: to remain calm, but like the calm anger, because calm

586
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: anger is the scariest kind of anger, the silent anger,

587
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: right where it's like just right behind the eyeballs anger.

588
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: And you tell this guy you're like, you're leaving my

589
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: house and it's like, no, you don't get to talk

590
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: like that. You're leaving my house, and he goes blah

591
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. He says, you're leaving my house in

592
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Speaker 2: the next thirty seconds, or the police are going to

593
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: be involved and they're going to drag you out of

594
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Speaker 2: my house.

595
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Speaker 7: I don't know if he's gonna involve the police, That's

596
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 7: what I would say. He looked dumbfounded because he didn't

597
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 7: expect me to get this close. Then he responded by

598
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 7: saying something along the lines off, your wife slept her

599
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 7: way to her position, into an easy life where she

600
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Speaker 7: doesn't have to pay for anything, and you're just flaunting

601
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 7: your own money in people's faces. That was my breaking point,

602
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 7: and I grabbed him by the collar and started dragging him.

603
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: So I was pushing him out of the house.

604
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 7: When I came back, my wife's close co workers were

605
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 7: consoling her. The other decided it was time to go.

606
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 7: After everyone left, my wife told me I didn't have

607
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 7: to defend her like that. She's more than capable of

608
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 7: taking care of herself. She said that because of my outburst,

609
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 7: it's going to make things awkward at work for her. Now, okay,

610
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 7: now I kind of feel bad.

611
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: I told her.

612
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 7: I knew I shouldn't have done what I did, but

613
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 7: he was crossing the line. There's only so much I

614
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 7: can take. She was upset that I didn't listen to

615
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 7: her one request and I let the one person ruin

616
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 7: the party, and that now she's worried there will be

617
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 7: issues at work. She also mentioned that she's concerned I

618
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 7: could get arrested for it. I told her there's nothing

619
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 7: to worry about because she did nothing wrong. She just

620
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 7: got up and walked away, saying, I don't understand corporate culture.

621
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Speaker 7: Am I the a hole in this situation? You're my hero,

622
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 7: but you are the corporate a hole?

623
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

624
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 2: I don't think my hero a hole. I'm pretty sure

625
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: if she went to HR right now, HR would take

626
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: her side. I like it in terms of like Johnson's

627
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: the a hole and she's like right next to him

628
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: now she's the director and he's a senior director, and

629
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: saying that she slept all the way to the top.

630
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 7: I understand, but like it's just gonna ruffle some feathers,

631
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 7: like in the corporate world, so she's gonna have to

632
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 7: like go through and we have, we're like halfway done.

633
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 7: So I just think corporately, it's gonna be a lot

634
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 7: if you have the witnesses, though Kimberly says, because got

635
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 7: a point. Thank you feel like having other coworkers there

636
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 7: who can corroborate everything is gonna really help you out.

637
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: There's no way it can't. Not sure how to.

638
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 7: Properly update, So sorry for the rambling on my post,

639
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 7: although I did add some useless info. I'm a better

640
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 7: speaker than writing dude, you're fine. I mean you spoke

641
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 7: really well to Johnson.

642
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: Update.

643
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 7: My wife and I read all the comments and we

644
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 7: actually enjoyed reading them, even though some were kind of mean.

645
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 7: She came to the realization that she needed to be

646
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 7: more assertive and not to be spineless, as some people

647
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 7: so generously call her. As I mentioned before, this happened

648
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 7: in the summer. The day after everything happened, we both

649
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: apologized to each other and asked her to give me

650
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 7: a full rundown of Johnson from when she used to

651
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 7: be in his department, because there's no way someone has

652
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 7: that much hatred for someone else without reason. So he

653
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 7: did try and make advances on her when she first

654
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 7: joined Johnson, but not only her, but a bunch of

655
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 7: other female coworkers, some who were at the party. Oh,

656
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 7: she shot him down multiple times and went to HR

657
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 7: with her coworkers to final complaints, and Johnson's behavior DIDs not. However,

658
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 7: he was now having her manage, giving a ton of

659
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 7: work to do. She was working long hours, but it

660
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 7: ended up working in her favor because the other department's

661
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 7: manager noticed her workload and her ability to finish it

662
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 7: without mistakes and pretty much post her to join her team.

663
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 7: So from then till she got promoted to direct her

664
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Speaker 7: about six years ago, she had very few interactions with him.

665
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 7: It's only when she got promoted to director she was

666
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 7: forced to interact. My wife, Johnson and the senior director.

667
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 7: Tim would have meetings every morning.

668
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Speaker 3: She said.

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Speaker 7: She never really acted badly towards her, but he would

670
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 7: always downplay any suggestions she had or outright ignore it.

671
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 7: She thought if she invited him to the party, maybe

672
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 7: that would change his behavior and bury the hatchert. She

673
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 7: realizes that it was really stupid to assume that that

674
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Speaker 7: would happen, you.

675
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Speaker 2: Know, like, shame on this company for keeping this guy around.

676
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: This guy's a known problem. He was harassing women in

677
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Speaker 2: the office. He's leveraging his power and his ability to

678
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: make decisions to target employees who have spoken up against him,

679
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: and he's still up there in the senior director position

680
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: being outright disrespectful to one of his other directors and

681
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: also not being held accountable for that behavior. Shame on you.

682
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 7: So my wife did tell me that when she saw

683
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 7: everyone at work, they told her not to worry, and

684
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 7: a bunch of them were happy someone finally did something

685
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 7: to him. Ah right, ah rash. Some were hoping for more,

686
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 7: but happy regardless. She said that made her feel better

687
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 7: because she thought they would see her in a bad light,

688
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 7: which I don't know why, but my wife is an overthinker.

689
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 7: She wrote a complaint to HR for harassment against Johnson,

690
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 7: and he did the same thing, but against me. HR

691
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 7: didn't do anything for either of them. She got an

692
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 7: EMO saying, because this happened off company property and this

693
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 7: was not a company sponsored event, no action needs to

694
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 7: be taken by the company, and he disputes that happened

695
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 7: needs to be taken care by the individual. She was

696
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 7: worried that Johnson would sue her or call the cops,

697
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 7: but nothing happened in a month, so we assume he

698
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 7: just gave up on it. During meetings, Johnson would just

699
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 7: stay quiet After my wife spoke as opposed to giving

700
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 7: condescending remarks like he usually did. Bro he's got his

701
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 7: tail tarp with betweenty the legs.

702
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's better than being actively one

703
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: of the most annoying kind of people you can be.

704
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: You're just going okay, anyway, the adults are talking now,

705
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: It's like, ugh.

706
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: I haven't seen or spoken to Johnson since the party,

707
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 7: but my wife asked me to come to the company

708
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 7: Christmas party where I saw Johnson, but he ignored us.

709
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 7: I met Tim and when my wife introduced me, he

710
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 7: said something along the lines of thanks for coming, Please

711
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 7: don't drag me across the room. I'm very nice to

712
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 7: your wife. Who hilarious. My wife and I burst out laughing,

713
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 7: and I realized Johnson had become the butt of the jokes.

714
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 7: Apparently people at work started doing a collar grabbing motion

715
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 7: behind Johnson's back.

716
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Dude, nice, emasculated by the whole company. Let's go.

717
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 7: The reason I got brought up again recently was because

718
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 7: my wife told me a couple of days ago that

719
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 7: he put in his two weeks nice okay, sick. By

720
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 7: the way, you can never put in your two weeks ever.

721
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 7: At all because we want you to go to your

722
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 7: favorite podcast platform. Search up Okay Story Tom, Apple, Spotify,

723
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Speaker 7: iHeart who knows What? You listen to search us up

724
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 7: Okay Story Tom and listen to us. Please go do that.

725
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 7: You can never quit. You can never quit on us.

726
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 7: Don't you quit on us? Please? Don't you ever quit

727
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 7: on us again? Okay thumbs up really badly. Yeah, I

728
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 7: just want to say that sentence for some reason.

729
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: You just want to be able to say, somebody, do

730
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: you know I just got on the phone with you

731
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Speaker 2: know what?

732
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 7: You know what I just heard and from who?

733
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: You know what I just heard about? Should you should know? Wow?

734
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm probably get a dog and say that to him.

735
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: You know what. I just got a phone with you

736
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: know what has heard about the president of dogs and

737
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: he said, you're the best dog ever.

738
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 7: I joked we should throw a party. But she felt

739
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 7: bad because she feels like he quit because of her.

740
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 7: I told her that she didn't do anything wrong, and

741
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: that happened to Johnson after the party was on him.

742
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: That was on him.

743
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 7: Nothing would have happened if he just kept his mouth shut.

744
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 7: She understands, but she still feels bad. My wife is

745
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 7: a very empathetic person, even to people who don't deserve it.

746
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 7: So it might not be the ending some of you

747
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 7: were hoping for, but it worked for us. We still

748
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 7: joke around being dragged across the room here and there,

749
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 7: but overall everything ended in the best way for us.

750
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Speaker 3: Wow.

751
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: And they kept the house, and they kept the house,

752
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: kept the house that Johnson never got his grubby little

753
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: mits on the price of and he got fired instead.

754
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: That's right, what a little just a little chef's kiss

755
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: of his story right there, hey, John og host, We

756
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: don't get back to the stories, but a quick free

757
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: minute break of ads from our sponsors.

758
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Speaker 4: I invited my brother to stay at our house for

759
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: his vacation. My wife got furious.

760
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: Is the brother's family.

761
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: So I thirty four male, my wife thirty nine female,

762
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: and her daughter thirteen female, all live in a house.

763
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: That I rent.

764
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Speaker 4: My wife and I recently traveled to Florida for vacation,

765
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: and while we were there, my brother drove ten hours

766
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: straight to see me and meet my wife, as I

767
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: had not seen him in a little over five years. Unfortunately,

768
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 4: my wife ended up catching livid while we were in Florida,

769
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: so she never got to meet my brother. By the way,

770
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Speaker 4: this comes from over Librarian seventy three sixty seven, and

771
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Speaker 4: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

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Speaker 4: our slash joke storytime sub rend it. Oh, here is

773
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Speaker 4: the issue.

774
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Speaker 3: My brother and I are close.

775
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 4: We have always called each other once a week and

776
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: text almost daily. A few days ago, he told me

777
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: that he would be coming through Hawaii for vacation in

778
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: about a month and asked if he could stay with

779
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: me for five days. Of course, I said yes, as

780
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 4: it's not a problem. I rent a five bedroom house

781
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: and the spare bedrooms are on the first floor. I

782
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: came home on Thursday and told my wife and she

783
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: was incredibly mad. She told me that my brother is

784
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: a garden tool and that she can't trust him around

785
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: her daughter because he's always posting photos of different girls

786
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: on his social media. She then doubled down, saying that

787
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: she and her daughter would get a hotel for the

788
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: entire time my brother is here because she thinks he

789
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: would do something to her daughter.

790
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

791
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: She has never met anyone on my side of the family. However,

792
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: I asked her as calmly as I could why she

793
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: would think that about my brother, whom she has never

794
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: met before. All she could say was it's Pikatis that

795
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: garden tool. All wow, I would be really angry. I

796
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: would be really angry about this.

797
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

798
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: After she said that, she stormed away to the master bedroom. Currently,

799
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: my wife and I aren't talking or sleeping in the

800
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: same room. So am I the a hole for saying

801
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: my brother could stay with me? And there is an

802
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: update now. Literally, the only thing that I was gonna

803
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: say that she was mad at is that you didn't

804
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: like run it by her.

805
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but clearly that's not the issue here, not at all.

806
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 6: She's just like from what I can see, from what

807
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 6: I've gathered well I know and their Instagram pages, I

808
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: can tell that this is gonna be a dangerous man Beze.

809
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: A garden tool through and through.

810
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting for this to blow up like it

811
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 4: did in the past hour. As this is my first

812
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: time writing, I will try and address some of the

813
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: questions that are coming up. My wife has never met

814
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: any of my family. My older brother, the one coming

815
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: to visit, is forty two, and he does have a

816
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: lot of girlfriends, but as far as I have seen

817
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 4: on social media, they all look as old or older

818
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 4: than me. My younger brother I haven't seen or heard

819
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 4: from in tennish years. Last I checked, he was in

820
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 4: the Midwest hitchhiking, and my sister is a traveling nurse.

821
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: Both my parents are deceased. They passed away when I

822
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: was fourteen. Yes, I pay the rent, However that is

823
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 4: not to say my wife doesn't contribute to bills at all.

824
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: We try and split the bills fifty to fifty whatever possible. However,

825
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: I do mainly cover the rent and Wi Fi, while

826
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: she covers utilities and groceries. I didn't mean to type

827
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: it in a condescending tone or manner, but that's how

828
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Speaker 4: it is.

829
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 3: I guess.

830
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: My wife and I normally don't communicate whenever we have

831
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: guests over. Just last week, I hosted her father and

832
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: mother at our house without an invitation. That is actually

833
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 4: like really relevant information because that was the only thing. Yeah,

834
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: that was the only thing that I was like, Oh,

835
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 4: that was kind of weird, right, But apparently that's just standard.

836
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 5: So yeah, Kat commented his wife had him or wants

837
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: him or has had him before. That's well, according to Ope,

838
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: she's never met him before, but maybe she's like she

839
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 5: saw his Instagram and she.

840
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: Was like, oh my god, I know that man.

841
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

842
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: To me, family should never need it unless they have

843
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: done something crazy like I'm alive, or they are a

844
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: pedia file, in which case I wouldn't talk to them.

845
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: Ever.

846
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: Currently, the wife is sleeping and I plan on having

847
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: a heart to heart with her later. I do understand

848
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: why some of you feel like there's a lot being

849
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: left out, but this is everything. Also to everyone saying

850
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 4: I should have defended my brother's honor, I understand where

851
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 4: you're coming from, but I didn't want to make the

852
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: situation worse by throwing gas into the fire. And there

853
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: are some comments comment one with this the matter is clothed,

854
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 4: not the a hole and your wife is batcrap crazy

855
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: and a disrespectful witch, accusing your brother of being a

856
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: pediaphile and being mad because you invited family without her

857
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: consent when she would have done the same thing. Send

858
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: her to f herself, grow a parent.

859
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Speaker 3: Stop with that. I don't want to throw gas in

860
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Speaker 3: the fire.

861
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: She is your partner and she must show you the

862
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 4: same respect and consideration you give her. If she invites

863
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: her parents to your house without telling you, why do

864
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: you have to ask her when doing the same and

865
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: there is a second update. But man, oh man, that

866
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: was an aggressive comment. God would say, I don't care

867
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: about throwing cash in the fire. Dump the whole thing

868
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: on there. Do it make that fire ginormous?

869
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: Why not?

870
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: Rag ming Ming says the wife is scared, she can't

871
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: control herself and jump the brother's bone.

872
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: She's like he is too hot, hot hot. Interesting.

873
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 4: So, after reading most if not all, of the comments,

874
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: I had a list of the things the wife and

875
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: I had to talk about. Yesterday, when everyone's heads had

876
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: cooled off, the wife and I had to sit down.

877
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: I did oologize for not telling her that I had

878
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 4: one sidedly told my brother he could stay at her house. However,

879
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: I also told her that going forward, her family and

880
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: friends are not to be invited to our house unless

881
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm told in advance. She was fine with that decision. Secondly,

882
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: I also showed her this post that I made. Secondly,

883
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: I also showed her this post that I made. She

884
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 4: was very apologetic for immediately exploding and calling my brother

885
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: a possible peto without any evidence or backing. She has

886
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: also opened up about her past and the reason she

887
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: was so uncomfortable. According to my wife, her ex husband,

888
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: who I have never met or even seen a picture of,

889
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: was very controlling, and she also said that her ex

890
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: husband and my older brother look alike. Whoa oh, which

891
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: was the biggest reason why she exploded.

892
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: Whoa.

893
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: The wife finally showed me a picture of her ex husband,

894
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: and he definitely looks like my brother if my brother

895
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: grew out his beard. For those of you thinking, then

896
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: shouldn't I also look like her ex Well? Thankfully I

897
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 4: got most of my mom's genetics and skin color. Most

898
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 4: people think my brother and I aren't even related due

899
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: to him being quite a few shades darker than me.

900
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: Her ex husband is currently in prison for a while,

901
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: so I assured her that he and my brother are

902
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: completely different people. I'm glad she opened up about her

903
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: past relationship, which I knew nothing about, which is kind

904
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: of shocking. It is pretty surprised because I think they've

905
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: been together.

906
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: For a while and they're married. Is their daughter his

907
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: or is this the ex husband's daughter? Do we know that?

908
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: I assumed it's theirs.

909
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: That's what I assume, So they've at least been married

910
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: or like together for thirteen years. Yeah, so it's shocking

911
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: that he didn't know any of this. Yeah, it's a

912
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: long time, but I mean maybe it's just just never

913
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 4: come up before.

914
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: I understand why.

915
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: A lot of you may think it's weird to not

916
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 4: know about your wife's past, especially if you're raising someone

917
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: else's child. But to me, it didn't really bother me. Okay,

918
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: so it's not his kit. Also, her ex husband is

919
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 4: not in prison for domestic for violence, but for something

920
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: totally unrelated, wasted driving. It happened last year, according to

921
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: police reports, when my wife left her ex. They were

922
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: living in Colorado at the time, her father came and

923
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: pretty much snuck the wife and daughter out of the

924
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: house while her ex was away.

925
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: The wife was too.

926
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: Scared to even call the cops, as she was told

927
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: she would have to fly back and possibly meet her

928
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: ex again. I don't know what to think of that,

929
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 4: but I'm glad my wife is in a better place

930
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: right now, as you couldn't even tell that happened to

931
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: her in the past. For some of the most asked questions.

932
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: When the wife and I went to Florida, the daughter

933
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: was not with us. It was our anniversary and vacation.

934
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: We asked daughter if she wanted to come, but she

935
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: flat out said no and that she would stay with

936
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: her grandparents. I checked my wife's phone just to make

937
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 4: sure that there weren't any private messages between her and

938
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: my brother. Okay, wait with her permission, did you just

939
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: like snoop in her phone? Oh that's not good.

940
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: That's bad.

941
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: There wasn't anything I could find, including in her pictures

942
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: and all messaging apps. The only people she talks to

943
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: are her two friends and family. A lot of you

944
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: asked how my wife could have never met my brother

945
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 4: or anyone in my family before we got married. Like

946
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: I have posted before, my parents have already passed away.

947
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: My youngest brother is actively being a bum. According to

948
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: my oldest brother, who emailed him last year, he was

949
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: somewhere in Alabama, so he is probably still in the

950
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: southeast United States. My sister is currently living in New York.

951
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: The last time I talked to her was back in November.

952
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: My oldest brother is always traveling and working. My wife

953
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: has been included in facetimes with my older brother and

954
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: younger sister, so she knows what they look like. It's

955
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: just that none of them have ever met in person. Lastly,

956
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: the wife and I came to the conclusion that my

957
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 4: brother would get a hotel room while he is here

958
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: visiting us next month. I have informed my older brother

959
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: and he is perfectly fine with that, as he doesn't

960
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: want my family to feel uncomfortable in their own house.

961
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: And by the way, we wouldn't want you to feel uncomfortable.

962
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: And the best way to feel comfortable is to listen

963
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: to full episodes with stories just like this. Just got

964
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: a Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app and

965
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 4: search a bookay story Time, and you'll feel so comfortable.

966
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: But there is a little bit left of the story.

967
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: What thoughts do you have?

968
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: Bob said something interesting about like bobla daughter might be

969
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 5: afraid of the uncle too.

970
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: That's true, I mean if that was her dad, Yeah,

971
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 4: there could be something there. Yeah, and so her mom's

972
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: trying to make her feel comfortable, like they might just

973
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: feel uncomfortable around other men too. Yeah, seems like they're

974
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: kind of figuring out like I've been around and trying

975
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: to like, you know, talk about it around these issues.

976
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

977
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's important that they have this conversation

978
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: that seems like it, you know, hasn't happened for years, right, But.

979
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: There is a little bit left to the story.

980
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: The wife and I are going to start attending couples

981
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: counseling sessions next Wednesday, and if the wife thinks the

982
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 4: daughter should join us, then we will move to family counseling.

983
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: The wife and daughter are excited about meeting my brother,

984
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 4: as I talk about him a lot. Of course, I

985
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: will introduce him slowly so it's to not add.

986
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: Pressure to everyone involved. And that is the end of

987
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: that story.

988
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 5: Wow.

989
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: Wow, it sounds like everything's working. Yeah, that's very interesting,

990
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: just that that is something that he didn't know. I'm

991
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: sure that this is how it came out. Yeah, yeah,

992
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 3: it's pretty wild.

993
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: I mean perhaps for like being able to handle herself

994
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: and not like, you know, being healed enough for it

995
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: to not come up.

996
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also I do think that's like a pretty

997
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: important thing to happen. I don't know, I think it

998
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: should have maybe brought up.

999
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm shocks that it didn't come up ever, But but

1000
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: now it is.

1001
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: I married a man child with baby mama drama and

1002
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 5: dragged my sister into it. Well, drag yourself at there.

1003
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 5: Please please strap in, folks, scrap a beverage and a

1004
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 5: snack and hold on to you butts.

1005
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: It's a long one and a doozy. This is me

1006
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: holding on to your butts. I'm holding on but of mine.

1007
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: A little backstory for you.

1008
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: I forty five female, got married to someone I shouldn't

1009
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 5: have my mad and I literally chastised myself every day

1010
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 5: for it. By the way, this comes from Simone's Treasures,

1011
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 5: and if you want isn't in your own stores, go

1012
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: to our slash Okay storytime step credit. We will call

1013
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: him Aaron, forty four male. We were friends in college

1014
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: and reconnected years later. He was charming, handsome, had a

1015
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 5: good job, and I thought had a good head on

1016
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 5: his shoulder. Unfortunately, Aaron came with a lot of baggage.

1017
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 5: To be fair, at his age, we all do as

1018
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: we have both been married before and have children. I

1019
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: have a fifteen year old female and his his four

1020
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: year old female, so please know that I'm not knocking that.

1021
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: But the problem right away was his baby mama.

1022
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: We'll call her Connie, and she is bad, crap crazy,

1023
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 5: and I'm not talking about someone who has good and

1024
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: bad days.

1025
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm talking about someone who should be locked in a

1026
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: padded row.

1027
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: I flat out told Aaron that if she brought me

1028
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 5: into it, I wouldn't back down like he had basically

1029
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 5: the whole time they had been apart.

1030
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: That was red flag number one.

1031
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: OO.

1032
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: They were never married. She told him she couldn't get

1033
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: pregnant like she.

1034
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 5: Told the father of her other two children before this

1035
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 5: one PSA wrap your tool. So I started asking myself self,

1036
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: do I really want to deal with this for another

1037
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: fourteen years? I had previously told myself I was not

1038
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: going to get involved with anyone who had small children

1039
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 5: my own red flag.

1040
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: Oh well, but.

1041
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 5: Because of who I thought he was and how he

1042
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 5: assured me everything would be just fine, I decide I

1043
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 5: could deal with it. We got engaged in February twenty

1044
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: twenty four, and he wanted us to get married pretty

1045
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: quickly reach lag number two. I actually wanted to wait

1046
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: until at least the fall.

1047
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: He wanted June.

1048
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 5: He said that way we could work on selling my house.

1049
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 5: Since he lived in the neighboring state thirty miles away.

1050
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 5: He said it would be better for me to sell

1051
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: and use the money I made on the house to

1052
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: pay off debt, et cetera, which sounded good to me

1053
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 5: since I was struggling financially and he knew that he

1054
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 5: knows I'm hyper independent and won't ask for help. However,

1055
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: I did bring up the fact that my house is

1056
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 5: almost twice as big, and with our animals, I have

1057
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 5: a dog and two cats, while he has two dogs.

1058
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 5: I would have to uproot my daughter while his child

1059
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 5: wasn't even in school yet. Keep in mind, there aren't

1060
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: any stipulations about distance in their court agreement, so.

1061
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: He could easily move, as could I.

1062
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 5: But of course he had an excuse for that red

1063
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: flag number three. Oh No, after going rounds about it,

1064
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 5: I gave in dang it again. I pushed aside the

1065
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: flag because of who I thought Aaron was.

1066
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: So we set the date. My family, including my sister

1067
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 3: forty one female daft.

1068
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 5: He thought it was a bit quick, but they had

1069
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 5: grown to like him and supported us as we crept

1070
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 5: closer to the date, and Connie found out via his

1071
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 5: oldest daughter, twenty one from a previous relationship.

1072
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: Seriously, dude, wrapyard, who you hear that? Everyone? We got

1073
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: two warnings. Now that's two warnings. If we get to

1074
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 3: a third one, you're going to prison.

1075
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: WHOA.

1076
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: Things started to seem a little off. Connie started making

1077
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 5: absurd accusations against Aaron, and thus began a heated custody battle.

1078
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: While that was starting, our wedding came and went in June.

1079
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: Everything was fine. My house wasn't selling, and we were

1080
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 5: still living separately because I didn't want to pay for

1081
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: something I wasn't living in, as well as drive twice

1082
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 5: as far to get to work appointments. Like I said,

1083
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 5: I was struggling financially, which he knew, and he knew

1084
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't outright ask for help, and he makes almost

1085
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: three times what I do.

1086
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: Not once did he offer to help me financially.

1087
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: He did, however, give me eight hundred dollars of the

1088
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 5: fourteen hundred dollars we received from our wedding to pay

1089
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 5: for tires for my vehicle, not his money though red

1090
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 5: flag number four. Of course, some would argue that I

1091
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 5: should have just moved and left my house empty, but

1092
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: my gut told me not to.

1093
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: Now Here comes August.

1094
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 5: Aaron tried to keep me out of the custody stuff

1095
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: as much as possible, until Connie tried to bring me

1096
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 5: into it by having her equally psycho guardian ad litem

1097
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 5: order a psych evaluation for me at ten thousand dollars.

1098
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 5: What Aaron had to get one as well as Connie,

1099
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: but for some reason, I was named a party in

1100
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: funny considering Connie always said that she had no idea

1101
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: who I was, yet she named me in a document

1102
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: as well as blocked me on social media. Aaron so

1103
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 5: that he would pay for it, and this and that,

1104
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: again not standing up to Connie. Wait, I'm cond flat

1105
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: number five. Is Connie paying the ten thousand dollars or

1106
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 5: is she making them pay the ten thousand dollars to

1107
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 5: get a psych evaluation? It sounds like OP would have

1108
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 5: to pay the ten thousand makes zero sense. Yeah, I

1109
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 5: could just like be like that.

1110
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: Person needs a psyche val and they have to pay

1111
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: for it, right, So that's red flag number five. I said, nope.

1112
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: I told him I am not the little one's mother

1113
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 5: or guardian and should not be pulled into this. Keep

1114
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 5: in mind I was actually out of state of this

1115
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 5: time on a mini vacation with my daughter. Because I

1116
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 5: was so stressed out. I told him he'd better fix

1117
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: it and tell them no or I'm out. So he did,

1118
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 5: which was good, and I think.

1119
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: It was the first time he had ever pushed back

1120
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: on her in almost four years.

1121
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: A couple of months go by and my house still

1122
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 5: hasn't sold. The custody battle was getting uglier by the day,

1123
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 5: and I was at the point where I couldn't handle

1124
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 5: the drama anymore or the red flags I had pushed aside.

1125
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 5: I decided to express my feelings to Aaron and he

1126
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: basically told me to get up and be a good

1127
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 5: wife and mother. Ooh ooh boy, oh boy, stop not

1128
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: looking at the red flags. He followed up by asking

1129
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 5: what I could do to make my husband happy? Literally

1130
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 5: the words he said to me.

1131
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: Wait, Aaron was like, well, maybe you should be asking

1132
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: what you can do to make your husband happy, or

1133
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: with someone else saying that, I think.

1134
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: That might be what it is.

1135
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: Or he's saying like, what could you do to make

1136
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 5: your husband happier? Yeah, or just maybe he's just like,

1137
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: ask yourself what you could do to make your husband?

1138
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: Ask yourself how you can go look at the heir

1139
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 4: and say self, so, well, can I do what can

1140
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: I do to help my hands?

1141
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 5: That's absolutely crazy. Aaron would always say I could come

1142
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 5: to him and lean on him for anything. That day

1143
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 5: he proved that that was not the case. He was

1144
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 5: not a safe place for me. And he never would

1145
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: final red flak, so I decided this was not going

1146
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: to be something we could work through like others urged

1147
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 5: me to do. The drama would never stop, and I

1148
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 5: am too old to wait around to see if it

1149
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 5: got better, both with the Baby Mama drama and with Aaron.

1150
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 5: Aaron had the nerve to suggest that I give it

1151
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: a couple of months and get into therapy to see.

1152
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: If it would change my mind what. Apparently he didn't

1153
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 3: like that. I stood up for myself, so I said,

1154
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: heck no, leave him.

1155
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 5: Then he reached out to my brother in law and sister,

1156
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 5: telling them I was texting all these guys that he

1157
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 5: spent so much money on me and that he had

1158
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 5: fixed up my entire house all lies. For one, he

1159
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: didn't help me when I needed it. Two I paid

1160
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 5: for about eighty percent of the wedding and the honeymoon.

1161
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 5: And three he helped me paint three rooms in my

1162
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 5: two thousand, eight hundred square foot house.

1163
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: I had previously painted everything a year before I reconnected him.

1164
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: Final Nail in the Coffee.

1165
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 5: I later heard from his first ex wife that he

1166
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: had tried to do a similar thing to her and

1167
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: her family, labeling her as crazy and greedy.

1168
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 3: Will he try to do this to Connie or someone else?

1169
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: Connie's one exist right, yes, okay, okay, okay, but.

1170
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: He has one first ex wife. I think Connie's the

1171
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 3: most recent one. How many xpyses? Okay, that was another

1172
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: red flag. If you've got like three ex wives. Yeah,

1173
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: that's too many ex wives. That's kind of hard.

1174
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 5: I think also too, if you're dating someone and they're

1175
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 5: just like, oh my god, like my ex was just crazy.

1176
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: I think it's more so like when you say all

1177
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 3: of your exes were crazy.

1178
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1179
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: Now the texting all these guys thing is most definitely

1180
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 5: not true. But this is where my sister goes off

1181
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 5: on me. I have kept in contact with a male friend,

1182
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 5: Guess for the last few years. Long story short. We

1183
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 5: were friends and I wanted more, but he wasn't in

1184
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 5: a position to do so. Cool, but we remain friends

1185
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 5: as he trusts me with his life. I've always had

1186
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 5: male friends, just like Aaron has always had female friends.

1187
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: When he was in the military, he served with several

1188
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 5: females and still talks to them occasionally, even the one

1189
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 5: he said he may have knocked up.

1190
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: Cool.

1191
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 5: Now, Daphnie doesn't think that's okay, as does some other people,

1192
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: I'm sure, but she's a very insecure person and it

1193
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 5: isn't her life. She doesn't even want her husband to

1194
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 5: watch movies that have hot girls in them.

1195
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: Serious, Okay, that that's crazy. That is pretty crazy.

1196
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1197
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: That's wild.

1198
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: That's where I draw the lie.

1199
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: What am I supposed to watch?

1200
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: I can't watch my anime anymore.

1201
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: I can't watch anything.

1202
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: You tell me, I can't watch Arcade? You watch your kne.

1203
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: Get out of here, you stick up?

1204
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 7: Tell me I can't watch the Golden Girls?

1205
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: What the heck?

1206
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: Daphne confronted me about it and said I was deceiving everyone,

1207
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 5: especially Aarin, for talking to this person. I said, I

1208
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 5: will not ever give up a friend who trust me

1209
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 5: with their life journey, because Aaron would be furious if

1210
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: I did that to him, and quite frankly, I'm not

1211
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 5: deceiving anyone he knew about, and I'm pretty sure it's

1212
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 5: none of anyone else's business. I don't sit and pester

1213
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: Aaron about who he's texting because I'm pretty secure with thing.

1214
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: Daphne says she loves me and only wants the best

1215
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: for me, but she's keeping me at arm's length because

1216
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 5: she thinks that.

1217
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: My friend was the reason I wanted a divorce.

1218
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 5: Remember that Aaron got into their heads and they took

1219
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: his side before they knew I was in contact with

1220
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 5: the friends and not mine. They tend to drink made

1221
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 5: whenever anyone says anything. I even went so far as

1222
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: to send her screenshots of conversations I've had with Aaron,

1223
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 5: showing him belittling me and ordering me around. I kept

1224
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 5: telling Daphne me deciding to divorce was truly because we

1225
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 5: weren't right for each other.

1226
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: And he wasn't the man he painted for me in

1227
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: the beginning. Also, like, why does it matter what Daphne thinks?

1228
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: You know?

1229
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who is also? Who is Daphne?

1230
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 5: So?

1231
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: Meaning that she.

1232
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: Literally has no relevance to your decision making. Yeah, just

1233
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 4: because I forgot. Yeah, she doesn't exist too exactly, and.

1234
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 5: She should be happy for me figuring that out now

1235
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 5: instead of years down the road after my house is gone,

1236
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 5: my mental health is failing and I have to start over.

1237
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 5: She has continued to keep me at arm's length because

1238
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 5: I did the best thing for my and my daughter,

1239
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 5: and all she can fixate on is I was still

1240
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 5: friends with someone. Again, none of her business. My mom

1241
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 5: wants us to sit down and hash it out. I said,

1242
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that because Daphnie already has

1243
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: a preconceived idea of me in her head instead of

1244
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: listening to the truth, and it would be like talking

1245
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 5: to a brick wall. Now, am I the a hole

1246
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 5: for doing what is best for me and for my

1247
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 5: own reasons and not giving a hooked about what my

1248
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: sister thinks because it's none of our business and we

1249
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 5: have to shut your.

1250
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: Mouths sister, Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to

1251
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: the stories. But here's three minutes bads from her sponsors.

1252
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: My friend went too far. She harassed my mom in

1253
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: the hospital.

1254
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: Boil boy. That's crazy.

1255
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: But before I get into the thick of it, here's

1256
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: some background. I'll call this ex friend Carol. We are

1257
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: both in our mid thirties. She has a child of

1258
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: whom I was the godmother. She is a cancer patient

1259
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 2: slash survivor. By the way, this comes from user dig

1260
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: a freak, And if you want to submit your own stories,

1261
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit and submit

1262
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: them there. I am undiagnosed but I'm almost certain I

1263
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: have a touch of the tism. I do have major

1264
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: anxiety depression and was diagnosed as borderline fourteen years ago.

1265
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: So basically I am not a people person, but not

1266
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: by choice. It's extremely hard for me to maintain friendships

1267
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: when I'm in a constant state of panic or in

1268
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: a large amount of pain. This bit of information will

1269
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: be more important when I get to the why I'm here.

1270
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: I want to reiterate that this woman has known me

1271
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: longer than anyone else aside from my parents. So I

1272
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: trusted her with my life. I trusted her with all

1273
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: of my problems, and she definitely trusted me, or I

1274
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: guess used me to cover for her more time than

1275
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: I can count. She knew I'd have her back no

1276
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: matter what happened in her life. I would be there

1277
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: if she needed me. This is also important later now

1278
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: the reason I'm here. My life since about mid July

1279
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: has been a absolute crap slide through a cactus field

1280
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: on fire while being thrown through the air repeatedly from

1281
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: the invisible land mines of crap that just keeps happening.

1282
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: I was involved in a car accident three days ago.

1283
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: Six days ago today, is the twenty first My mother

1284
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: was put into the er. In February slash January, my

1285
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: house's furnace gave up the ghost and it was going

1286
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: to cost upwards of fifteen thousand dollars to have it replaced. Thankfully,

1287
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: we found a cheaper company two weeks prior. On the

1288
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: third week of January, we had to borrow money to

1289
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: replace our washer that gave up a week before that.

1290
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: The second week of January, I had to have two

1291
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of work done on my car's engine.

1292
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: I still have to get one thing done, but I

1293
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: can't because finances. Two days before Christmas, my aunt passed

1294
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: away unexpectedly from a blood clot. Three days before Thanksgiving,

1295
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: my wife's grandmother was found passed away from internal bleeding

1296
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: and an unrelated lung illness. Oh my god, this is

1297
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: just the six months of hell.

1298
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1299
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: In the second week of October, I had to borrow

1300
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: money to replace the control arms on all four of

1301
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: my tires. Unexpectedly, in September, I was officially diagnosed with

1302
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: eelers dan lows. I could keep listing stuff, but I

1303
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: think you all get the idea. Because my mother is

1304
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: in the hospital. And I can't speak to the parent

1305
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: of mine, who has always been the one to take

1306
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: care of these types of things. My panic was at

1307
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: a level I have never experienced before. So I reached

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: out to Carol and confided in her that I think

1309
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm not being told everything. Basically, I will add that

1310
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: she and I have been distanced since before her son

1311
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: was born, about eight or nine years. He got cancer

1312
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: when he was I think four or five, so it's

1313
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: been a couple of years. I have proof that I

1314
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: was always the one reaching out and that I would

1315
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: always get one word responses. Typically, this isn't an issue,

1316
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: as I don't pick up on social cues like at all. Carol,

1317
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: I thought was aware of everything I was going through,

1318
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: considering we had been friends for so long. Now, I

1319
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: reach out to her and let her know my mother

1320
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: was in the hospital. She gives very short answers, but

1321
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: I believe is showing concern for my mom. I admit

1322
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't ask her how she is, but I am

1323
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: obviously overstimulated, and I even say as much, which is

1324
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: completely different from how I typically am. As the days progress,

1325
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: I keep her updated as she asks. Then the possibility

1326
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: of surgery was mentioned so I update her, tell her

1327
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm headed to my parents to grab stuff for mom,

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00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: and that i'd let her know when I got to

1329
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: the hospital. Well, I never made it to the hospital.

1330
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: I got in a car accident. I reached out to

1331
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: her to let her know I won't have an update

1332
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: because of the accident, so she wouldn't worry about why

1333
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: I was an answering. The accident happened at six twenty

1334
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: five pm. She asked me to keep her updated again,

1335
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: so I do. I get out of the er and

1336
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: back home at midnight. The message I got from Carol

1337
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: was at twelve forty eight am and nothing was wrong.

1338
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: My wife has to be up at six am to

1339
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: be at work. We finally lay down after my anxiety

1340
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: finally relaxes. I have my phone turned all the way

1341
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: up in case my mom needs me. My phone starts

1342
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: ringing at one forty eight am. We had just gotten

1343
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: to sleep. I freak out, grab my phone and see

1344
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 2: it's Carol. After I put my glasses on, I see

1345
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: she sent me a paragraph basically telling me that she

1346
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: hates me and she wants to give me the old

1347
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: one two combo. I have screenshots for Messenger going back

1348
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: two years to prove I wasn't the one not trying

1349
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: to communicate, just throwing that out there. She threatens to

1350
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: call my mother, who is in the effing hospital prepping

1351
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: for surgery at two forty in the goddang morning. My

1352
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: mom sent me a screenshot of their conversation since she

1353
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: can't talk and it has to be over text. And

1354
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: this woman tattles on me and tells my mother that

1355
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: I think they are hiding something from me while she's

1356
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: in the dang hospital. She's in the hospital because she

1357
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: coughed so hard she cooked a rib, one of the

1358
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: multiple air bubbles in her lungs burst, and then the

1359
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: pain med she was given made her kidney's malfunction, all

1360
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: of which was told to Carol prior to her issue. Carol, however,

1361
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: conveniently leaves out the part where she said she wants

1362
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: to me and that she hates me. The next day,

1363
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: she doesn't call me out by name, but the things

1364
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: she posted were nasty. Unfortunately, I don't have screenshots of

1365
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: the post, as I had blocked her after she called

1366
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: me over sixteen times and called my mother twice. What

1367
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: is going on? Why did she flip like this is

1368
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: so crazy. Why what happened? Did I miss something?

1369
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 5: What happens isn't isn't Carol's daughter like diagnosed with cancer

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 5: or something?

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01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Right?

1372
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 5: So that is crazy, and that is you know, Carol's

1373
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 5: losing it a little bit, which makes sense. However, taking

1374
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 5: out on Op and this family, that's wild because they're going.

1375
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: Through their own things.

1376
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, this is unbelievable.

1377
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: Leave them alone.

1378
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: Before I blocked her, I sent her a voice message

1379
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: that said basically, I'm sorry that my life is a

1380
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: crap show. And her using her cancer as an excuse

1381
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: for talking to me like that is a problem, as

1382
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: she knows cancer is a huge trigger of mine. I

1383
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: have reached out to her and never gotten any response

1384
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: other than okay or thank you. She never, in eight

1385
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: years ever once asked me if I was okay. I

1386
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: also ended the voice message with I love you, but

1387
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: I no longer think of you as my sister, and

1388
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: I am done. I lost my closest cousin fifteen to

1389
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: sixteen years ago do ewing sarcoma. She was sixteen years

1390
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: old when she passed away, and I was twenty at

1391
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: the time. Carol was too high on life, which is

1392
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: substances to give a crap about me when I called

1393
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: her while I watched my cousin get buried and had

1394
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: my second ever mental breakdown. Dude, girl, this is not

1395
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: your friend. Yeah, I don't think this person has ever

1396
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: really been your closest friend.

1397
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: That's what's that's what we're figuring out.

1398
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: I think like there was another there was a line

1399
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: in here about how OP doesn't pick up on social cues. Yeah,

1400
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: I think you've missed the social cue that Carol has

1401
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: never been your bestie.

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01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. Honestly, because you can be someone's friend, you can

1403
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 5: hang out with them for years and years or whatever,

1404
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 5: chill out, be close with the family, whatever, But to

1405
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 5: be really close, you have to be there during your

1406
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 5: hardest times and not like brate them like what's happening

1407
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 5: right now.

1408
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: True, if anyone wants to see the messages, I'll share them.

1409
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: But am I the a hole for cutting ties with

1410
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: a lifelong friend over her saying that she wants so?

1411
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: First of all, no, absolutely not cut this person off.

1412
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: Move on, ye find a new spports system. This person

1413
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: is not your friend, not at all.

1414
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 5: Once your actual I mean so many of these other

1415
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 5: things could be reasons to not be friends with this

1416
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 5: person anymore.

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: But once your.

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01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: Physical safety is in jeopardy, dude, it's over.

1419
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, your physical safety is in jeopardy. She's harassing your mother,

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01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: who's hospitalized. She's calling you fifteen times in the middle

1421
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: of the night to brate you. I don't know. She

1422
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: sounds like she's got her own problems to work through

1423
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: as well. But I want to let you know that

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01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 2: you can be here for us and listen to full

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Speaker 2: episodes with stories like this on iHeartRadio, on Apple podcasts,

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Speaker 2: search Okay story time, and you will find the complete archive,

1428
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: which I think is now like forty nine consecutive days long,

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01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: so there's a whole lot of hours.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, dude, you'll never have a boring airplane fly

1431
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 5: ever again. Yes, or road trip ever.

1432
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: I realized I forgot to mention that she didn't know

1433
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: anything about what I listed regarding what was happening in

1434
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: my life, only that my mother was in the hospital.

1435
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: I never said anything else about what was going on

1436
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: in my life until my mother and then the car accident,

1437
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: and I only reached out to ask for her advice

1438
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: two days after I let her know. My mom was

1439
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: in the hospital, and there are some comments here. Comment one,

1440
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: I feel like I missed something. Carol texts you with

1441
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: so much rage, out of the blue in the wee

1442
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 2: hours of the morning. I feel like there's so much missing.

1443
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: But I think the key issue is BPD. I suggest

1444
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: ongoing therapy to help you navigate your friendships and not

1445
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: be so intense with people. It's above Reddit's pay grade

1446
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: to unpack this, but under the guidance of an experienced therapist,

1447
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: you may be able to develop friendships that don't overwhelm

1448
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: the people you meet. I'm sorry for your losses, your

1449
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: mom's illness and the financial hardships. It's part of life,

1450
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: so if it's a big loss or suffering in your family,

1451
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: your friends will care give you sympathy, but then they

1452
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: need to get back to their own lives. And OP responds, Yes,

1453
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: I agree. I'm currently in the process of getting myself

1454
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: into intensive therapy, so I completely get where you're coming from.

1455
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: But about Carol, yes, it was completely out of the blue.

1456
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: Part of why it was so off putting to me

1457
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: was because of the way things change so quickly. Quite honestly,

1458
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: it scared me and reminded me of our childhood, when

1459
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: she used to use me as the verbal punching bag

1460
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: when she would get mad and I would just let

1461
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: her do it. I'm not trying to trauma dump, so

1462
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: please excuse me if that is being taken that way.

1463
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: I just honestly remembered that as I was typing this.

1464
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: What I can say with absolute certainty is that she

1465
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: is a regular substance user, and she does have a

1466
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: mental illness, if not multiple. And I'm no professional, obviously,

1467
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: but I've been there for her so many different times

1468
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: that as her quote unquote best friend, it scared me

1469
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: beyond emotion. And as for myself, I'm diagnosed with a

1470
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: few different things already. I completely understand that they have

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01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: their own lives, and I truly hope she can live

1472
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: hers happily. I appreciate your input. Thank you. And that

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01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: is the end of that story. And that was a

1474
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: good comment at the and I feel like that gave

1475
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: us a little more clarity. And that's the end of

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: this episode. Wow. If you love us, make sure you

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