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Speaker 1: Monday rob Ge.

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Speaker 2: Bad news in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is not going to be lost for the season,

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Speaker 1: but three months busy not I mean, I'm saying three months.

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Speaker 1: It's not the season is for plus months. But my god,

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Speaker 1: he's hurt again.

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Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, the three month timeline is actually conservative. There

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned it.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow undergo toe surgery after suffering what is being

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Speaker 4: called third degree turf toe. Now, turf tow doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: that bad, but anybody who's actually had turf toe said

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Speaker 4: because it is one of the worst injuries you.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, as you guys touched on earlier in the show,

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Speaker 4: This is just the latest and a long line of

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow injuries going back to college. Here's a quick

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Speaker 2: We don't have all day.

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Speaker 4: What do you think this is the real quick broken

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, injuries in all, I'm with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: Injuries and all that. And Joe Burrow showed himself really quickly.

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Speaker 1: First year he got hurt, only played like what he

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Speaker 1: They had lost like seven straight playoff games, could never

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Speaker 2: They're good for the next ten fifteen years. One.

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Speaker 5: Listen, he had one of the best college years I've

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Speaker 5: was played by Joe Burrow into your credit. He has

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Speaker 5: his health going back to college. He's always got something

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Speaker 2: Is the difference between. It ain't no denying.

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Speaker 5: That's why the the story of describing Kawhi is gonna

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Speaker 5: Because if you're listen, answer, I'm RELI if Kawhi was healthy,

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Speaker 5: But because he wasn't and because he will miss out

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Speaker 1: He's won two championships, one finals, MVPs.

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Speaker 5: Know, that's all I'm saying. This makes it weird because

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Speaker 5: And if you saw it and you kind of get it,

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Speaker 5: back to Joe Burrow a couple of things. The tough

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Speaker 5: part for the Bengals is all of their existence is

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Speaker 5: you're supposed to a quarterback that talent. I'm not even

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Speaker 2: You know what you are.

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Speaker 5: We really don't want to pay him, we've been stringing

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Speaker 5: got the offense set up for you. Here we go.

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Speaker 5: Be happy. Let's go on this run. We paid the

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: So they have it all riding on him. That's what

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Speaker 2: You mentioned J. J. McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: All right, well he's out right now, but they have

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Speaker 5: he comes back. The Bengals are built for that offense

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Speaker 5: to be great. That's it. Also, it makes some interesting

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Speaker 5: how many times can somebody win Comeback Player of the Year.

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Speaker 5: He's been Comeback Player of the Year twice. Guess what

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Speaker 5: he's about to be next year, Robs both the He's

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Speaker 1: That's how great he is three times. Tell it tells

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Speaker 5: The award after him, Rob the Joe Burrow Comeback Player

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Speaker 1: When he's healthy, he's as good as anybody. Last year,

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Speaker 5: My last point is the only concern I have is

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Speaker 5: We all know the talent incredible and you go, man,

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, he'll get back.

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Speaker 2: But between injuries and that dad on conference.

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Speaker 5: He's in where he's got a battle with Lamar, who

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Speaker 5: justin Herbert. If you ask him, he's gonna get My

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Speaker 1: But the only difference is he's the only one out

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, not Patrick.

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Speaker 5: I'm that what I'm saying that meaning he got there

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Speaker 5: and it's and he may never get back between health

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Speaker 2: That ain't crazy, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced of that because i just don't know

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Speaker 1: how many years he plays. You know, you go through stretches.

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Speaker 1: He might have his team he might have built for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he might. But even when they went, they weren't

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Speaker 8: I need to call him the trash Talk of Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, appreciate you.

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Speaker 8: I was just curious, Rob, why you think I don't

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Speaker 1: Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports, right,

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Speaker 1: That's the only Mulligan they're gonna gets theirs.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Hey doing happy Monday. Thanks for taking the car.

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Speaker 6: I don't see Joe Burrow breaking through again and making

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Speaker 2: Well, they got to the spot. But Drey, here's the

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Speaker 1: He actually went to a Super Bowl coming off an

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Speaker 6: No to your point, Ron even with a healthy Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows they have uh, they have a papers in defense,

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Speaker 6: so he's gonna have to Yeah, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna be forever.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Dre, what do you think They're not gonna

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Speaker 1: make some changes or add some players. They might draft

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Speaker 1: a player who turns it in to be a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the same defense the entire time.

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Speaker 1: Even the Lions went to the playoffs and won a

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Speaker 1: playoff game officially, finally after fifty years or whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: I think that windows closed.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: That conference is too much quarterbacks appreciated Drake. I think

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Speaker 5: it's just he's great, no doubt he's great.

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Speaker 1: As long as I'm saying that conference, that's great quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he's great.

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Speaker 2: He's in that mix talent, not that team though. TJ.

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Speaker 5: Whos was out on the way. We can ask him

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Speaker 5: about it. He knows a little something about the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: He was a former Pro Bowl receiver when he was there,

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Speaker 5: also coached up on game. We'll get there at the minute.

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Speaker 5: Right now, Steven Seger is gonna tell us what's trending, Hasty.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of the odd Couple

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,

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Speaker 3: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: All right, Steve, thank you.

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Speaker 5: It is the odd cover Rock Parker Kelvin Washington on

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Speaker 5: The Magic City Monday.

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Speaker 2: The WNBA got playoffs going on.

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Speaker 5: Why don't you know, Rob, because you would. I never

468
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Speaker 5: missed a WNBA playoffs. They were going ahead it. Breonna

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Speaker 5: Stewart was bawling. Yeah, Alex, don't play that. I don't don't.

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Speaker 5: I'm not missing a good accent over the weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the Liberty was getting busy all right. Last we mentally

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Speaker 5: had nothing to do. The girls wanted you to see it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on, your daughters didn't even want to say.

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Speaker 2: I bet you know I love who I peaked in.

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Speaker 2: You didn't peak in.

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Speaker 5: VISal Collier was balling. I just told you the Liberty

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Speaker 5: was a good one, all right. TJ who's Isa a

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Speaker 5: former Pro Bowl robe receiver, co host A why would

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Speaker 5: you do this?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: Jeez was in Detroit last week and I missed it.

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Speaker 5: Co hosts of Up on Game on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We got a themes that got music now, all right,

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Speaker 2: who's eighty four X? Who's I love it? What's up? Man?

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Speaker 7: To what's going on on Sallas?

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Speaker 5: We're going, good Man? Where you want to start? Roberts

487
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Speaker 5: so much? We could we could jump into Chiefs. I

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Speaker 5: got the Chiefs. I'm not surprised TJ. I've been on

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Speaker 5: this bandwagon for.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of years, just the way that they played,

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Speaker 1: how lucky they've been.

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Speaker 2: Even last year, a lot of games went their way.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, they're owing to in games

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Speaker 1: that they usually win, uh, you know, one score games

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Speaker 1: and now owing to what's your four asked for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: They've been lucky the last two years. You know what

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Speaker 7: they say we lucky is when preparation is J. Can

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Speaker 7: you stop kicker?

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Speaker 1: The Raiders mishandled a snap that ain't preparation. The kicker

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers missed the easy field goal that ain't preparation.

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Speaker 7: Luck. Luck favors Luck favors the guys that are prepared.

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Speaker 7: Now listen, I picked the Chargers to win the division

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Speaker 7: this year.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs not making the playoffs, That's where I'm at.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I would go that far, but

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Speaker 7: they've been on a downward spiral offensively for the last

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Speaker 7: couple of years, and the defense has just picked them up.

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Speaker 7: And now that the defense cannot pick them up as

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Speaker 7: much as they need, it's even worse. Like they can't

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Speaker 7: they can't move the ball effectively. People are playing the

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Speaker 7: Chiefs like the way they play the Chiefs defensively, you

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Speaker 7: wouldn't think they were not what pack Mahomes was a quarterback,

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Speaker 7: but they wanted division nine years in a row. John Harball,

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Speaker 7: John Jim Harball is a great coach in his second year?

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Speaker 7: What are you to do with the Niners? So right

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Speaker 7: now I have the Chargers and the Green Bay Packers

517
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Speaker 7: going to the Super Bowl. I said this before the

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Speaker 7: season started. Let's see if that holds truth.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I'm on. I believe they can still make it.

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Speaker 5: Ten and seven. Got the Bucks and also got the

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Speaker 5: Broncos in there. I think the Chiefs can do that.

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Speaker 5: I just think that once they get their receivers back,

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Speaker 5: as you know.

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Speaker 1: Maybelline in a row, and it'll be great for NFL America.

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Speaker 2: In Rowe.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's go to a team. You know you're

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Speaker 5: familiar with the Bengals. We were just talking about them

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Speaker 5: before we got on with you. The bad news with

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow could be out minimum three months, could be longer.

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Speaker 5: At some point, you wonder if they'll just pull the

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Speaker 5: plug on the whole season between his health, the defense

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Speaker 5: being just called the defense because it ain't no d

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Speaker 5: What do you make of this Bengals team right now?

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Speaker 5: And is the next year next year? Because all the

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Speaker 5: money is on the offensive side. I worry that this

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Speaker 5: could be a situation where Joe Burrow got to the

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Speaker 5: super Bowl early and may never get to And I'll

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Speaker 5: tell you why, because of a team like the charge

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Speaker 5: you picked, you picked justin Herbert. You still got my homes,

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Speaker 5: you got Lamar Jackson, you got Josh Allen, you got CJ.

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Speaker 2: Shroud. That conference is crazy with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: It's disappointing, man like it's our root for the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: And to start the season two and oh when the

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Speaker 7: last few years we can't even get the first two

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Speaker 7: weeks of the season, we don't even know how to win.

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Speaker 7: Feels like right so to be to ande ooh, and

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Speaker 7: offense didn't play well Week one, Defense held us down.

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Speaker 7: Defense couldn't really get a stop against the jag If

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Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence Hunn and throw the ball to us at

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Speaker 7: the end zone and Domie Brown drops a touchdown that's

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Speaker 7: right in his hands. It's a different story, but Trey

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Speaker 7: Hendrickson made a play when it mattered at the end

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Speaker 7: of the game to sell that for us. But having

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Speaker 7: Joe pretty much he's out for the season. Man, it's

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Speaker 7: a heartbreaker. This is Joe burrow sixth season, and this

556
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Speaker 7: is the third season he's pretty much gonna miss the

557
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Speaker 7: entirety of the season, more than half of the games.

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Speaker 7: Tear your knee, he had a risk injury and now this,

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Speaker 7: and so it's really nothing you can do. Joe's one

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Speaker 7: of the best quarterbacks in the league, but at some

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Speaker 7: point you gotta wonder can he stay healthy consistently, consistently

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Speaker 7: enough to lead us where we need.

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Speaker 2: To go, no doubt. I want to ask you about

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan said on ESPN that he was finished, he

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Speaker 1: couldn't play anymore. He only had like four hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty years. He still throws the deep ball. What did

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Speaker 1: you make of Russ? Russ's performance and despite all that,

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Speaker 1: the Giants still couldn't win the game. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: just a bad that's a bad loss to me, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: He's scored a touchdown right for them, TJ, with twenty

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Speaker 1: five seconds ago.

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Speaker 2: You got to win that game, don't you.

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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson played a fantastic football game. He made a

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Speaker 7: bone head decision at the hand pointy to that pick,

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Speaker 7: but I felt like he was just throwing the ball

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Speaker 7: down the field and he was like, Hey, one of

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Speaker 7: these guys gonna make a play. For all the people

581
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Speaker 7: that say receivers don't matter the boy, they better go

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Speaker 7: watch that game and look at what Elak Neighbors was

583
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Speaker 7: doing and the type of plays with naked. But the

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Speaker 7: play that really bothered me was after they take the

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Speaker 7: lead in the fourth quarter and they played a soft

586
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Speaker 7: Tampa two defense and they let Dak completed to the

587
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Speaker 7: tight end and that put him in field goal range.

588
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Speaker 7: Because of Brandon Aubrey. Anything within sixty is a field

589
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Speaker 7: goal range.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, TJ. You got to help me out.

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Speaker 1: This happens every week with no time like it happens

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Speaker 1: like ten seconds, fifteen twenty. It doesn't matter what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know what team allowed teams to get a field

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Speaker 1: goal range.

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Speaker 7: That reminded me of when the Buffalo Bills that would

596
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Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill against to Kansas City Heat. See without Tyreek Hill,

597
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Speaker 7: they don't play that way. And so but that's what

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Speaker 7: that reminded me of. It's like, you guys game plan

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Speaker 7: and Dave was an old school coach man, them jihants

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Speaker 7: coaches and they in office today. They getting out of the

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Speaker 7: office at one am. Y'all game planning all damn day.

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Speaker 7: Y'all in the office till eleven twelve, one o'clock in

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Speaker 7: the morning. And this is what y'all doing the game

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Speaker 7: and thank you what you like? What is going on?

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Speaker 1: All that is is you know what like a badge

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Speaker 1: of honor? Oh he slept in the coaches room. We

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Speaker 1: did get.

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Speaker 2: No, but that's what they brag.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what they brag about, is about how many

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Speaker 1: hours we get. Two hours, I'm sleeping in my office

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Speaker 1: and all that.

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Speaker 2: And you still turning that stuff right?

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Speaker 7: Good, hey, good hey. Getting an argument with your wife

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Speaker 7: and she brings out up, you're sleeping in neither calls

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Speaker 7: you're making exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would say as well. TJ. Whos was

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Speaker 2: out of our guest former Pro Bowl wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Of course, co Hose up on game on Fox Sports

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Speaker 5: Radio as well. I want to go to this one.

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Speaker 5: He and I talk a little further about it as well.

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Speaker 5: But the Lions bounce back in the critical You know,

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Speaker 5: you don't want to start a season one two, especially

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Speaker 5: losing two in the division. They don't they win. They

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Speaker 5: put up a fifty piece what'd you make of that performance?

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Speaker 7: Man? The Lions. They was ready for Ben Johnson to

626
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Speaker 7: come on on back to Detroit. They were ready for that.

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Speaker 7: It's just really crazy that Caleb Williams like at the

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Speaker 7: start of the game first two games, he lked out,

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Speaker 7: like Ben Johnson and him can really script some plays

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Speaker 7: to start a game, and then they just completely crumble.

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Speaker 7: I don't the Detroit Lions to me needed that, because

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Speaker 7: after week one I was like, whoa they really meant?

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn like what are they going

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Speaker 7: to do? And they answered the bell. Now I don't

635
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Speaker 7: know what. Like Defensively last year, the Chicago Bears were

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Speaker 7: pretty good on defense last year. They're atrocious defensively this

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Speaker 7: year thus far. Fifty one point, that's what I get.

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Speaker 7: And the Detroit Lions team that struggled mightily in Week

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Speaker 7: one and Dennis Allen's defense gives up fifty one points.

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Speaker 7: You're a man, the man defensive coordinator. When Jalen Johnson

641
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Speaker 7: is hurt, he's not playing, you can't play your scheme.

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Speaker 7: You gotta do what your players do best, not with

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Speaker 7: what you want to do. And so I thought the

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Speaker 7: Lions played well. Way to show up. I'm and raw

645
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Speaker 7: did this thing, Jamison Williams. Way before the draft, they

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Speaker 7: asked me to name a sleeper receiver. I said, I'm

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Speaker 7: not gonna name somebody I train. I'm gonna name Isaac

648
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Speaker 7: kes Law. And he out there ball and making one hand.

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Speaker 7: Nobody had never heard of him, and I shoted he

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Speaker 7: own and look at him now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those catchers are with those sticky glaves.

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Speaker 7: Heyjjay, how many guys are wearing them?

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Speaker 2: GLO, I don't care. I don't care. TJ came.

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Speaker 1: Those are all fraudulent catches, you hear me. I don't

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Speaker 1: count any of them, DJ zero. They don't do anything

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Speaker 1: for me. They don't even obj.

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Speaker 7: I know everybody's everybody's wearing them. Everybody ain't making weight.

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00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: Case there's sticky gloves. It's like eating sticky wings. In

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Speaker 2: Times Square.

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Speaker 5: I keep telling them everybody doing it, everybody spectacular is

661
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: not gonna let J.

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Speaker 1: You know that you play football, they didn't let you

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Speaker 1: use sticky gloves. Sticks know he didn't and TJ, you remember,

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Speaker 1: go look at the Sports Illustrated. They went out and

665
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: played with with high school kids and they had them

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00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: try to catch the football with no gloves. They gave

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00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: them no sticky gloves, and those high school kids caught

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Speaker 1: every single ball that went their way.

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Speaker 2: TJ. You know what makes a difference, doesn't.

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Speaker 7: It when you have gloves that have a little stickiness

671
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 7: to them. It makes a difference. Okay, but this is

672
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 7: the thing, though we're not seeing one hand catches by

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Speaker 7: everybody and makes that play. You gotta get that player,

674
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Speaker 7: at least I do. I'm giving him the credit because

675
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 7: we're not seeing that every week like the d hops.

676
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 7: When he does it, that's expected, that.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's what he made a career.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not that. I'm not that worked up and feel

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00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: that good about it time I see it. And teaching receivers.

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00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: All you need to know is we watched what was it,

682
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: one weekend of college football, and they had four of

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Speaker 1: the greatest catchers we ever saw in the same weekend.

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Speaker 2: What does that tell you, GJ.

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Speaker 7: Rob. I came in, I came into the league, man

686
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 7: Tim browned it out, just tape on the fingers, man,

687
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 7: and then I went to playing Pittsburgh. It was got

688
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 7: it got real cold. I put them gloves on. I

689
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 7: never went back to the tape on the fingers.

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Speaker 2: I bet you didn't. Hey, last thing I want to

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00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: ask you about.

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: The Ravens are averaging what forty and a half points

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00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: a game, and they like they could take the foot

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00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: off the gas whenever they want. What do you make

695
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: of their offense? And it looks like they don't They're

696
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: not even trying really hard.

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00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 7: I don't I tried what I what I tell you

698
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 7: last week you was on John Harbaugh's head. I told

699
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 7: you I said at Paul's they gonna be all right.

700
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 7: And you know, Grant dlle Pitt got him a little

701
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 7: excited talking about they just the Ravens and he gonna

702
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 7: do this, and he gonna do that, and they put

703
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Speaker 7: him in his place. It's a big game coming up.

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00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 7: I believe they played the Detroit Lions this Sunday and

705
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 7: the Baltimore Ravens and John Harball normally destroy the NFD

706
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 7: and so I'm eager to see now. Defensively, can they

707
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 7: shut a Detroit offense down that just went the work

708
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 7: that we just spoke about against the Chicago Bears. And

709
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 7: offensively are they gonna be able to go up and

710
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 7: down the field. But Lamar Jackson, Man, he the best

711
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 7: quarterback in.

712
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: The league, no doubt, he the best.

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Speaker 7: He can run him and Josh Allen, you take who

714
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 7: you want. You can't go wrong with either one. But man, Lamar,

715
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 7: this dude, the last two seasons, Man, his development as

716
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 7: a passer. You got to get that young man so

717
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 7: much credit because all he did was going to lab

718
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 7: work and get better and better and better and do this.

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Speaker 7: Dude is playing football the quarterback position, probably better than

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Speaker 7: we've ever seen a quarterback do it, at least in

721
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 7: my eyes.

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Speaker 1: What throwing we He just passed Aaron Rodgers for the

723
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: best passer rating for a quarterback in the history of

724
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: the National Football He just passed Aaron Rodgers.

725
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 7: And guess what, he's an all time leading rusher for quarterbacks. Also,

726
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 7: so when have we win? A running quarterback really can't

727
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 7: throw the ball. That's what they say. He's doing both

728
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 7: at a high, high level.

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Speaker 5: Yes, TJ, we gotta go, but yeah, appreciate you as always.

730
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: He's the best player the NFL the last two three years.

731
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Speaker 5: I've been saying and Rob has been saying it as well.

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Speaker 5: It is the Odd Couple. Thank you, TJ. Appreciate it man.

733
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Speaker 5: We'll do it again next week.

734
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Speaker 7: All right, keep up the great works.

735
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Speaker 5: No doubt there was a great boxing match that everybody enjoyed.

736
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: Good fight over the weekend. But maybe putting too much

737
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Speaker 5: sauce on the winner. Is that true? We'll tell you next.

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Speaker 5: It's the Eye Couple, Rod Parker, Kevin Washington, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 5: Pro of the Week goes to boxer Terrence Budd Crawford.

752
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 5: He jumped up two weight classes and beat Canelo Alvarez

753
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: to become the first undisputed champ and three weight classes

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Speaker 5: during the four belt era. So again, congrat to Terrence

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Speaker 5: Crawford for being our Express Pro Pro of the Week.

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Speaker 5: Rob got to enjoy the fight, really really good fight.

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Speaker 5: I won't say it was great, It was really really good.

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00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: What made it not great to you?

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00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 5: Maybe you want a little bit more action. You could

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00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: argue that I could, you know a little more, maybe

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 5: even a more compelling storyline to make it like something

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00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 5: great and iconic, you know. But it was really good,

763
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 5: high class, high quality boxers using their brains.

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Speaker 2: What's working for me now. So it was. I really

765
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Speaker 2: enjoyed it.

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Speaker 5: You got enough action that make you know, that got

767
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: you kind of wet your whistle, if you will.

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Speaker 2: So I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 5: And I think Bud Crawford for a lot of people

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Speaker 5: who don't know him or kind of knew the name

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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: but never really saw him.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people I know they all were on Crawford, like,

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Speaker 1: they all told me, oh, no Crawford, my guy Sean

774
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: at the Vaughans that I go to, he was just like, no, this.

775
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Speaker 2: Is gonna be his moment, his chance.

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Speaker 5: And that's what it was for him because a lot

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00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: of people knew the name, maybe saw Fighters, but he

778
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: just hasn't been blockbuster. But if you knew, you knew,

779
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 5: you're like, yo, I'm telling you. And I was telling

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Speaker 5: Robber you. I remember watching him fight for the first

781
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: time and I'm like, Yo, this dude is incredible, And

782
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 5: I kept thinking, where's the flaw. He's got power, he's

783
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: got smart, he's got defense, he can tussle with you

784
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: if he can, you know, play the little back out

785
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: and you know, move around if he needed to, and

786
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: he showcased that. I mean, nobody's ever made outside of

787
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: Floyd Canelo. Look, I won't say pedestrian, that's disrespectful, but

788
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: just was kind of running around and handling Canelo. Nobody's

789
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: done that except Floyd, and so it was great to

790
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: see him. He's arguably the most complete boxer I've ever seen,

791
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: where like, I don't know the flaw. Some people, man,

792
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 5: they had really good, but they don't have a good chance.

793
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 5: Some people are man, he's just he's just a hard

794
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 5: hitter fighter, but he didn't have the technical skills man.

795
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 5: Bud Crawford for years has been maybe the most complete

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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 5: boxer we've ever seen. And it was great to see

797
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: and shot to Canelo for taking his fight, because Canelo

798
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: could have he knew what he was getting up against

799
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Speaker 5: and he could have been like, nah, at this point,

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Speaker 5: I've been the money man. I've been the guy for

801
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 5: you know, decade. Now I'm straight this could be. But

802
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: I love that Canelo took this opportunity because he didn't

803
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: lose anything.

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00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Let me go, fool you is this thing go?

805
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 5: So what Canelo lost to a great, great, one of

806
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: the best fighters of all time, and it was a

807
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 5: good fight. It might get another one. That's the sport.

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00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 5: God forbid you getting a good fight. You lose and

809
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: you bounce back.

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: But here here's my issue.

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Speaker 1: I think people are always a prisoner of the moment.

812
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: And now where Crawford wasn't in the greatest fighter of

813
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: all time category, now he is, like you have to

814
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: be in that conversation before you get to the fight

815
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: that now people want to proclaim you as the best.

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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, because it's not

817
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: just about being undefeated or whatever. I mean, Uh, Muhammad

818
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: Ali lost fights and people thought he was the greatest,

819
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, despite having l's on his record,

820
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: So it's not just about being undefeated. But I don't

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Speaker 1: remember this conversation at all with Crawford prior to this.

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00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: Do you look at it like this? Do you look

823
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: at him like that?

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00:37:54,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 5: It was a insiders people thought that the average the

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00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 5: average person. But I think what helps him is the

826
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 5: way he dismantled Arrow Spence. I mean, it was a beating.

827
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 5: I don't know if Arrol's ever gonna be right again.

828
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: I'm not even being funny. And then the way he

829
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 5: goes up to what two three weight classes and he

830
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 5: gets in there with Canelo. He's smiling half the time,

831
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 5: like this is easy work. This the guy y'all thought

832
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: was gonna body me up. And they kept saying, who's

833
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 5: the bigger stronger I'm like, I don't know who the

834
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 5: bigger stronger guy? Because he was taking Canelo's punches normally

835
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 5: put people out, he was taking it like it was nothing.

836
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: So he absolutely put himself in that conversation for the

837
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 5: greatest of his generation will never get a greatest vault,

838
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 5: you know, because if Floyd is it, is it. Muhammad

839
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Speaker 5: Ali is a sugar Ray Robinson some people might like

840
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 5: sugar railer, will never get that. He absolutely made a

841
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: statement case for the best of his generation the last

842
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 5: you know, fifteen twenty, Like when Floyd kind of was

843
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: running down, it was but you gotta running back. Too

844
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 5: much money, too competitor. They're absolutely gonna run this back.

845
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: It makes no sense why they wouldn't running back. Best

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00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: fight we've had in quite some time with two great champs.

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00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: You running back, but putting the fat down down though,