WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: How Confident Are You? 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:18.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.919 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:33.839 Star in friscot No. Your hosts Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:42.640 Danny Serek, and Kyle Yeomans. It is a chilly Tuesday 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.360 edition of Talking Cowboys as we continue to sift through 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.519 the Dallas Cowboys offseason and get you ready for a 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.800 couple of the monumental milestones of that off season coming up, 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.560 the NFL Draft less than ten days away, and we're 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.320 gonna do our best to get you set up for it. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.720 Kyle Yeoman's alongside heck My Harrison, the great Rob Phillips, 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:10.240 and we're now joined by a little bit of football lore. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.319 It's it's about time that we get a former player 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.280 on Talking Cowboys again, and we've got a former quarterback 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.240 back in college at the University of Washington, a fourth 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.920 round draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys, played professional wide receiver, 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.280 Isaiah stand Back. Welcome to Talking Cowboys. Isaiah Man. I 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.839 appreciate you having me doing it. It's going good, doing great, 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.040 and of course we're we're happy to have you and 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.120 most recently you were with the Dallas Renegades and a 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.000 community outreach manager over there, but we're happy to have 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.000 you here on the NFL side of things and getting 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.720 a breakdown really what this offseason has meant for the 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.800 Dallas Cowboys and as a former player yourself, I'm gonna 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.000 I'm gonna put you on the spot early. If that's okay, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.120 I'm gonna I'm gonna go straight after it. I'm gonna 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.040 I'm gonna make sure right off the bat. That's that's 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.520 what we're here for. We're not here to us around. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.760 But I wanted to get your opinion on this Dallas 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.160 Cowboys offseason and kind of the moves that they've made 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.320 with some of the veterans that they've brought in. And 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.280 as a former player, is this something that is pushing 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.960 them to being a better team than they were in 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:18.280 twenty nineteen? Yeah, I think so. I think that. You know, obviously, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.000 a lot of people with tend to focus on the 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.200 talent that's been added, right, A lot of people always 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.679 focus on the players and the veterans and the big 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.760 name recruits that you can that you can pull in 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.560 and you can get the big contracts for and you know, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.639 as a former player, I recognize that that that's important obviously, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.640 you know, getting those big time guys in, but I 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.280 recognize that also the development of players is just as important, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.440 if not more important. So honestly, I mean personally, I 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.920 like the coaches that have come in. I liked that 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.880 coaching change. Obviously Garrett was there for a number of years, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.360 but now you brought in McCarthy and you know his 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.680 excellence that he brings in and obviously the guys that 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.360 he has underneath him, you know, the Fieldings, the you know, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.639 the Marcus Pollard's, the you know, the Ryans. All these 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.240 guys are that are coming in. You know, either have 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.560 been to Super Bowls or have been connected to Super 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.000 Bowl organizations as some form of fashion. So I'm really 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.399 excited about the support sism that they put around these 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.959 players because you know, as mentioned before in the show, 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.560 know the cast phases is they're gonna allow for them 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.600 to get all the depth that they really want. So 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.360 they need to be able to develop some young talents. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.960 And of course with such an experienced coaching staff, it's 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.440 going to add to what has been a wild offseason 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.560 and kind of the craziness that not only COVID nineteen 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.880 it's kind of put around really the last couple of months, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.720 but also moving forward and some of the uncertainty, and 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.080 we're going to get into a little bit of that 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.480 here in just a moment. And Rob, I know you, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.760 being a part of Dallas Cowboys dot com, you've heard 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.240 about this as well. And there was a piece written 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.520 last night by Johnny on our website who kind of 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.240 broke down some of these dates that have kind of 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.800 been at least ironed out a little bit whenever it 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.720 comes to the Dallas Cowboys and really the NFL offseason 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.440 in general. But there are some of those dates that 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.480 kind of stick out. What are some things that you've 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.960 seen that kind of intrigue you a little bit? Because 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.120 I know teams with new coaches can start as soon 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:09.760 as tomorrow, correct, Yeah, and I think all teams, I believe, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:15.120 can disperse virtual playbooks and things of that nature to 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.760 try to get a jump start on some of the 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:22.359 learning part. But there's a virtual period right now that 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.360 the league in the NFLPA have agreed upon for basically 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.839 the next three weeks starting April twentieth, for all teams 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.039 through May fifteenth, where it allows teams to basically do 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.200 a virtual program starting with some offseason work and some 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.520 online instruction, and after that, assuming you can get back 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.520 into your building, which is obviously far from a certainty, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.520 May fifteenth, that's when you would hope an in person 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.840 offseason program can start for every team and every team 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.839 can hit the ground running. Obviously, we don't know with 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.200 COVID nineteen what's gonna be allowed there. And the other 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.360 caveat with that, Kyle, is that all team teams, no 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.120 matter where they are in the United States, they've got 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:04.880 to be in a situation where they can open their 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.720 facilities and if they can't, if one team can't, then 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.360 none can. So it's you know, the Cowboys are yet 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.080 with the new coaching staff, can get a little bit 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.080 of a headstart, but you know, there's really no question 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.200 that it's a disappointment. It's a disadvantage for every team 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.240 right now, and I would say the Cowboys in particular, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.400 just because to what Isaiah said, it's a new coaching staff, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.120 it's a new group that's trying to lay the foundation 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.200 for their program, and to not have that in person 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.599 contact just to not be able to be in the 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.880 building and get around the guys. It's a difficult situation 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.840 and it kind of seems like there's a lot going 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.240 on whenever it kind of as a player, you're you're 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.720 supposed to be working out, You're supposed to be kind 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.880 of getting into game shape or at least getting into 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.440 offseason shape and building up toward twenty twenty. It's kind 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:52.920 of tough to do that kind of thing. In Heck, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.960 Mino you as a former player as well, I've kind 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.160 of had to deal with that and kind of, at 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.839 least not necessarily this kind of scenario where you're forced 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.799 to stay inside. But what are some of the ways 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.039 that some of these players can at least get out 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.840 and get some training done. Well, Kyle, listen, I don't 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.120 want to gloss over the fact that I'm on with 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.400 Isaiah stand back my mom, man, Okay, I just gotta 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.800 say that right out. I'm a big Huskies fan, man, 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.640 so I'm really I don't want to take this show 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.880 off the rails, but I gotta say how excited I 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.920 am to be on with you, man. But you know, look, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.200 nothing beats football like football. And when you talk about 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.520 what we're doing and I read Johnny's article. It was 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.000 a great article, by the way, just talking about some 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.719 of the hurdles that the Cowboys are gonna have to 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.760 jump in climb in order to get this season going. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.159 And you're right, Rob, if it doesn't work for one team, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.839 it's not gonna work for any team, and that handicaps 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.000 the Cowboys the most. I mean, one of the guys 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.279 that really is not enjoying this social distancing is coach 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.120 Mike McCarthy. He has got to be really upset about 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.320 what's going on because he doesn't, you know, for a 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.080 guy like him that already comes in with an enormous 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.520 amount of pressure on him to have a success season. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.760 He wants to get this playbook going, wants to get everything, 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.160 you know, get these guys acclimated with his rules, his 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.080 playbook and all of that. But again, as far as 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.320 you know, the virtual the virtual workouts and things like that, 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.560 I mean, it just like a bunch of guys gonna 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.080 be doing P ninety x you know the next couple 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.240 of months, if that's what. And that's why I say 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.800 nothing beats football like football. And Isaiah, you know it, man, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.000 when you come in from the all season, you know, 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.720 most coaches, Man, they give you that coach's handshake. When 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.600 they shake your hand, they put the hand on your trap. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.480 Then they grab your shoulder, then they grab your try 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.560 sale they feel you up to make sure you've been 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.960 working out. So it's gonna be it's gonna be a 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.720 lot of that going on. And I just think that 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:43.280 the condition coach, he man, that guy has his work 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.920 cut out for him trying to monitor these guys and 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.760 get them ready. You know, they're not a lot of 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.920 guys out here that you know, are the terrell Owens 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.120 of the league that slept in Barrick chambers and stuff 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.480 like that. So you're gonna really have to monitor guys 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.400 and make sure that they come into camp OTAs two 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.880 days when they that get started in shape. And to 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:04.720 you and to your point, man, to be honest with you, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.680 the staff that they had in the place right now 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.400 for the strength conditioning program is Martin Nunts. It's the 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.880 second and Nne. I mean, yeah, Marcus probably Marcus Paul 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.120 who was actually one of my my assistant strength coach 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.160 when I wanted some bowl with the Giants. And then 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.680 you have Harold Nash, who was my assistant strength coach 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.560 when I was with the New England Patriots. So you 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.680 have guys that have been with two great organizations, guys 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.240 who were very experienced, guys who've been around success one 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.720 super Bowls, who knew exactly what they're doing. So if 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.000 there's anybody who's who can handle this situation as those 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.240 two gentlemen right there, that's interesting and sat down is 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.040 that because Marcus Paul's there around Mike Woisick for years 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.800 different Spots one championships, and he was kind of groomed 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.080 for this opportunity. So I think that is an advantage, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.000 and that's he's a hire that maybe didn't get as 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.560 much attention to some of the other hires on Mike 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.920 McCarthy's staff. But you brought up a good point earlier. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.760 And by the way we were talking off air, I 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.240 was around you briefly when you were in with the 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.760 Cowboys in the mid two thousands, and it's amazing out 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.959 of time flies where Tony Tony Romos get his big 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.600 contract a dozen years ago and his elite and all that, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.959 and now das in the same situation trying to get 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.920 paid too. M But you brought up a good point 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.640 in terms of once this thing does get rolling with 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.800 a new coaching staff, with a new voice, sometimes that 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.000 can lead to extra wins. I mean, we saw it 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.880 when Bill Parcels came in fifteen years ago, and when 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.480 you came in to Dallas, it was the way Philips 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.160 show and I players set players that you were a rookie. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.120 I believe that season, but players that came in or 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.480 that were already there would would tell you we kind 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.120 of needed a new voice, and at least for a 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.400 year or two. Yeah, I think I think it made 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.240 a difference, and maybe maybe that'll be a you know, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.520 a good thing for this team here. Yeah, I believe so. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.640 I think it's a totally different voice. Obviously, I haven't 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.840 had Mike mccraty as as a coach personally, but I'm 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.000 very familiar with his a tenure as as a coach, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.720 and I did experience Garrett, so I understand how guys 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.520 are going to feel coming off of that regime. So 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.960 I believe that it will be a relief. I do 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.160 believe that with this staff that they have in place, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.440 with the coaches they have, like Skip Pete, he was 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.680 a random at coach and I was here in Dallas, 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.120 you know, coach of Marian Barbera and Julius Joneses and 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.520 all these guys, and you know, he's all about having fun. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.680 I think that this coaching staff is going to be 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.880 a lot more lenient in regards to having a personality, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.520 but strict in regards to expectations and a performance on 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.160 the field. Well. And I think also whenever you talk 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.480 about the coaching staff this year compared to last year, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.880 I think if any if you ask any or poll 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.720 any Cowboys fan or anybody who covers the Cowboys, I 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.080 think you're going to look at a potential victory for 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.640 this coaching staff over last year's coaching staff on who 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.320 you would rather be dealing with this sort of pandemic 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.120 situation where you are kind of limited in what you're 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.080 able to do. Even though it is a new voice, 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.200 which is a pro and a con at the same time, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.880 I think you would still rather have this coaching staff 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.640 deal with this type of issue, in this type of 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.600 situation with our world right now, rather than maybe even 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.320 the coaching staff from last year. Yeah, it's a it's 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.240 a crazy it's crazy circumstances for everyone. And that's why 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.920 I think that all NFL teams are having this pandemic 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.000 is going to have an adverse effect on the product 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:18.920 that's on the field in the fall. And so we 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.400 look at this kind of maybe shortsided right now, but 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.480 just think about the time that's put in in the offseason, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.560 with quarterback camps and things like that. A lot of 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.280 teams are having to struggle. And again, I think that 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.560 the most important note h there is the fact that 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.959 if there's one facility or one team that isn't ready 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.360 to get started because of the pandemic, that no one 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.120 is going to be able to get started. So there 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.839 aren't going to be any advantages to this at all. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.120 But you know, look, you bring up a really great, 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.720 you know point that having a new voice in Dallas 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.719 and what Mike McCarthy's effect going to be, Isaiah, when 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.800 you allude to just that championship experience, I think that 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.200 alone is going to set the player's mind at ease 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.160 because these guys have been there, done that, and especially 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.240 I mean you bring up absolutely wonderful point with Skip 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.720 Pete and his experience with running backs, Tyrone Wheatley, marrying 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.960 Barbara Murray, all of that is going to have an 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.640 effect on this team. And maybe again get these guys 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:18.160 are playing at a high level and having fun again. Yeah, absolutely, man, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.360 I yeah, I just you know, as being a former player, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.080 having those coaches that have been there. You know, when 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.559 you're actually, I think anybody right, any profession, right, when 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:26.839 you have to when you're sitting and you're listening to 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.000 advice from somebody, from somebody as a coach or somebody 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.560 as a leader regarded as a leader, if you want 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.040 to know that they've been there. You want to know 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.400 that they've been through. You want to know that they've 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.400 been through the trials. You don't want somebody who's coaching 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.559 coaching you through something that they just read, right, not 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.520 to say that that you can't do that. There's plenty 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.199 of people who have been very successful doing that. But 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.480 as a mentor, as a mentor and as a you 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.719 know obviously that in this particular profession, you want to 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.640 you want to look at your coach and respect them 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.800 in regards and just know that, hey, they've been there. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.880 What they're telling me is not something that they heard 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.280 from you know, from two uncles ago, and this is 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.880 something that they've lived. There's something and that they experience 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.200 and that they can really hand down true knowledge too, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.800 and that they're gonna be calm and confident in the 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.319 stance that they know that, hey, this is where we're 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.160 at right now. I'm telling you where we're gonna go. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.040 We will get there, but there's gonna be steps to 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.719 get there. Absolutely well, now our fans help go for it. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.760 Rob Well that it's Isaiah's point. That was the first 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.079 thing out of Dak Prescott's mouth when he was interviewed 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.439 at the Super Bowl about Mike McCarthy coming in. He said, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.880 he's got a ring and I want one of those. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.160 And that wasn't a knock on Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.920 won titles, was on Super Bowl teams in the nineties, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.600 but with a coaching change. You know, he's coach Aaron Rodgers. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.520 He's coached Brett Farve, He's coached Joe Montana twenty five 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.520 thirty years ago. However long it was a long time ago. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.640 But he's been around guys that quarterbacks that have won 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.319 big and he's one big himself, and I think that, yeah, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.120 that definitely does carry some weight. I think he carries 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:55.040 some weight. And the fact that now collectively, as talking Cowboys, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.319 we all have a combined one super Bowl ring. Just 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.160 with Isaiah being on the show, nobody has to nobody 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.800 has to worry about where they're getting an information from 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.160 because we've been there before. Right as a show. I 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:12.760 mean it's it's automatic though champions, but just by by association. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.880 But kind of going back to Dak Prescott there a 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.079 little bit, and I'm intrigued to hear both Hack and 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.440 Isaiah's kind of because Rob and I have talked about 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.640 this before, but their mindset around kind of his situation 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.760 right now. Of course, with all of the meetings in 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.160 the virtual kind of offseason that the NFL is having 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.320 right now, where does the leverage live for Dak Prescott 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.200 in terms of trying to get a long term deal 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:43.720 done before July fifteenth? Isaiah, I'll let you take that man. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.960 In terms of leverage, that's a intriguing question. It's hard, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.240 you know, obviously, in the position that he's in right now. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.000 We know that he's going to get a deal, no 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.520 question about it. You know, you don't you don't franchise 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.960 tag your franchise quarterback. You just you just don't do 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.760 it right. And they're doing it to buy time obviously, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.640 and he will get his deal. So I don't think 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.520 there's any question there. I don't think there's any stress 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.240 on his part in terms of getting the numbers that 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.960 he wants. He will get that. If things were different 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.200 right now and there was no pandemic going on and 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.960 things were normal, I really don't think. I think if anything, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.920 it might have happened quicker, right, I think they would have. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.960 They would have eyes on him, They would be able 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.160 to see exactly what he's doing. There's no secret as 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.480 to why he's posting some workouts and things of that nature, 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.480 and he wants people to see, right. He wants he 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.280 wants some leverage in that regard. So I think that 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.400 the deal probably would have been done by now had 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.040 this not been going on. But it doesn't. It doesn't 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.320 prevent the fact that it's going It's going to happen. Yeah, 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.160 I want. I want Rob to tell me about Dak's party, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.440 because I know that Rob Phillips was there. Send him 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.480 to get pampers, his wife, send him to get pampers, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.680 any skinny head to swing by Dax's house to get 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.960 to the party. But I was not there. I would 0:15:55.000 --> 0:16:04.800 should place good baby your wife much. I'm poking you, man, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.720 I'm poking you when you're I mean, look the leverage. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.400 I think a lot of that. You know, again, if 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.800 if you know, all things been being considered that there 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.680 isn't a pandemic, and if there was any type of 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.520 holdout for Dak in the offseason where he didn't come in, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.520 I think the sense of urgency to get the deal 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.040 done would be would have been heightened. I think because 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.880 of that. I mean not just saying I don't want 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.680 to you know, kind of frame this as him losing leverage. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.280 I just think that leverage kind of changes in a 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.440 way because of these unique circumstances. But you know, I 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.280 think from Dak, even with what he's been showcasing through 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.600 social media and just saying that, look, man, I'm training 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.480 and I got this arm, this gun ready to go 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.080 for you guys as soon as you're ready for me. Um. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.000 He's got to be excited about McCarthy. He's he's going 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.200 over the film. He knows exactly what he does with quarterbacks. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.120 That's who he is. He's a quarterback guru. And when 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.840 you start talking about the Montanas of you know, the 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.800 Aaron Rodgers, that's you know, enough set And so I 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.440 know that Dak is excited. I know this contract part 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.240 of it. It's just a part of the business and 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.159 so and you're right, I said, no one franchises their 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.959 franchise quarterback this way. And so, you know, the waters 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.600 were muddy probably weeks ago when everybody was talking about 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.800 the Dak countdown and all that. Some of that has 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.359 subsided through the media, but it's still got to be 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.200 foremost on the Cowboys mind to get this done because 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.480 we need Dak with McCarthy having the same brain so 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.520 that that can be translated to on field production. And 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.240 so you look at this point, you know, again we 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.359 see this. In my opinion, I think it's just a 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.040 matter of time before we see this deal get done. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.880 I think that's a great point because you also don't 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.720 know with the ever changing dates and kind of the 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.840 landscape of how this off season is being handled throughout 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.159 the COVID nineteen pandemic, it's kind of uncertain on when 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.600 you should get a deal done. Now July fifteenth seems 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.960 like a pretty set in stone, concrete date, but you 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.200 never know that could be pushed back and kind of 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.520 certain things could play into that. So I think if 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.040 I'm in the front office, I want to get things 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.120 done a little bit sooner rather than later. But we're 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.399 going to talk about Dak Prescott and really this overall 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.800 draft coming up in the later parts of this show. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.760 But we're gonna step aside here for just a moment. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.920 Our first break here on Talking Cowboys. When we come back, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.200 I got a debut of a brand new segment. It's 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.440 a working title, So if you have a title for it, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.040 go ahead and tweet at us, because I don't know 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.520 what it is and I have come up with nothing good. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.960 It's called Talking Percentages at the moment. 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