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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Star in friscot No. Your hosts Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Danny Serek, and Kyle Yeomans. It is a chilly Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys as we continue to sift through

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys offseason and get you ready for a

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Speaker 1: couple of the monumental milestones of that off season coming up,

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft less than ten days away, and we're

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's alongside heck My Harrison, the great Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and we're now joined by a little bit of football lore.

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Speaker 1: It's it's about time that we get a former player

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Speaker 1: back in college at the University of Washington, a fourth

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Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back. Welcome to Talking Cowboys. Isaiah Man. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you having me doing it. It's going good, doing great,

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Speaker 1: and of course we're we're happy to have you and

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Speaker 1: most recently you were with the Dallas Renegades and a

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Speaker 1: community outreach manager over there, but we're happy to have

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Speaker 1: you here on the NFL side of things and getting

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Speaker 1: a breakdown really what this offseason has meant for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and as a former player yourself, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot early. If that's okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go straight after it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: what we're here for. We're not here to us around.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to get your opinion on this Dallas

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Speaker 1: as a former player, is this something that is pushing

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Speaker 1: them to being a better team than they were in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen? Yeah, I think so. I think that. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people with tend to focus on the

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Speaker 1: talent that's been added, right, A lot of people always

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Speaker 1: focus on the players and the veterans and the big

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Speaker 1: and you can get the big contracts for and you know,

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Speaker 1: as a former player, I recognize that that that's important obviously,

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Speaker 1: recognize that also the development of players is just as important,

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Speaker 1: if not more important. So honestly, I mean personally, I

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Speaker 1: coaching change. Obviously Garrett was there for a number of years,

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Speaker 1: but now you brought in McCarthy and you know his

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Speaker 1: the Marcus Pollard's, the you know, the Ryans. All these

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Speaker 1: been to Super Bowls or have been connected to Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl organizations as some form of fashion. So I'm really

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Speaker 1: excited about the support sism that they put around these

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Speaker 1: players because you know, as mentioned before in the show,

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Speaker 1: And of course with such an experienced coaching staff, it's

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Speaker 1: going to add to what has been a wild offseason

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Speaker 1: and kind of the craziness that not only COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: here in just a moment. And Rob, I know you,

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Speaker 1: being a part of Dallas Cowboys dot com, you've heard

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Speaker 1: in general. But there are some of those dates that

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Speaker 1: I know teams with new coaches can start as soon

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Speaker 1: just because to what Isaiah said, it's a new coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back my mom, man, Okay, I just gotta

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Rob, if it doesn't work for one team,

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Speaker 1: I got an email this week I told HECMA about this,

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to be a special guest on one

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Speaker 1: that'll be a ton of fun with our friends over

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Speaker 1: at Main Event. So looking forward to that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: also looking forward to this. So this is a new

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Speaker 1: segment here on Talking that we're gonna kind of try

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Speaker 1: and put together and kind of piece together a name

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Speaker 1: for it. Like I said, it's a working work in

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Speaker 1: progress name right now. It's called Talking Percentages. And ultimately

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Speaker 1: the rules go kind of like buy your cell, you see,

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Speaker 1: buy your sell in really every form of media sports

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Speaker 1: media out there, I give a statement and each of

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Speaker 1: us are going to give our percentage zero to one

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Speaker 1: hundred and one hundred being you're one hundred percent certain

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Speaker 1: that this is going to happen in twenty twenty or

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Speaker 1: whatever the scenario may be. So there's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the premise of the rules. I've got three statements that

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Speaker 1: we're going to roll through them pretty quickly here, but

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Speaker 1: the first one, and we're gonna start with Rob just

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Speaker 1: because Rob is our insider Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: I just want to hear is Blake jarwin opinion here

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Speaker 1: because I know you're a big Blake Jarwin fan down there,

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Speaker 1: mister Rob Phillips. Absolutely so I'm gonna go how this

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Speaker 1: first statement is Blake Jarwin will be a one thousand

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Speaker 1: yard receiver in twenty twenty. Just a reminder he's had

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Speaker 1: no more than three hundred and six five yards in

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Speaker 1: a season. Well, for such a fan that I am

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Speaker 1: of his game, I don't sound like it when I

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Speaker 1: put forty percent on that, I go under fifty percent

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Speaker 1: because of what you just said. I mean, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: had that type of production. Now, a lot of it

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Speaker 1: comes down to just simple playing time. He got I believe,

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Speaker 1: close to forty percent of the offensive snaps last year

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Speaker 1: playing behind Jason Witten. Now he's got a clear path

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Speaker 1: as it stands right now before the draft being the

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Speaker 1: starter at tied end. So let's just say he doubles

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Speaker 1: his playing time and he gets eighty percent of the

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Speaker 1: snaps this coming season, then okay, if he doubles his production,

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Speaker 1: then he's still you know, he's in the seven hundred

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Speaker 1: yard range something like that. There's just so many weapons

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Speaker 1: on this Cowboys offense, and they could add more if

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Speaker 1: they add a wide receiver in the draft. And it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to see that, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: got a chance with more playing time to definitely be

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Speaker 1: a more productive player. All right, Ezaiah, I'm gonna come

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Speaker 1: underneath the forty. I'm gonna go to thirty percent. I

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Speaker 1: just don't see it happening. I think, especially he's still young.

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Speaker 1: He still has a lot of learning to do. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: in this system, I think he'll get the ball a

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Speaker 1: lot more than he has. But in this conference is

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Speaker 1: pretty physical, so I don't think that they're gonna allow

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Speaker 1: somebody to come off the line and run around for

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards throughout the season. Wow. Man, So look,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go lower than thirty percent. I

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Speaker 1: have When you start talking about, you know, a thousand

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Speaker 1: yards tight end, that's putting him in the Shannon Sharp,

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Speaker 1: Jason Witten, you know, Tony Gonzalez, stratosphere, the Rob Grunkowski's

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Speaker 1: of the league. And look you when you go the

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Speaker 1: history of McCarthy's offenses, he hasn't had a tight end

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Speaker 1: that is eclipse to a thousand yards in his system.

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Speaker 1: And so even with guys like you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: Michael Finley in that offense, who really had some really

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Speaker 1: from some really pretty good years. And you got to know,

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Speaker 1: also with Mike McCarthy's offense, you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: the smartest guys, two of the smartest guys on the

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Speaker 1: field for him as his quarterbacks in his tight ends

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Speaker 1: because of the variations of formation, I think with Cooper

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Speaker 1: and Gallop, that's gonna bring a lot for Blake Jarwin.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that that is going to accumulate

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards for him. Now, if you ask that

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Speaker 1: question a thousand yards for the tight end group, then

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Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, one hundred percent, because Jarwin, Bell

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Speaker 1: and whomever else they bring in, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: collectively as a you know, as a room, these guys

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Speaker 1: have a thousand yards together. But I just you know,

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Speaker 1: if drawing and I hope I'm wrong, I hope we

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Speaker 1: come back to this five months or six months from

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Speaker 1: now and he's, you know, there, we come back to

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Speaker 1: the end of the season and he's at a thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: Because if he does it, if if Jarwin has a

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Speaker 1: thousand yards, Cooper has a thousand yards, Ezekiel Ellen has

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards super Bowl, you know, I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: all stoppable, and so I mean, I just think that

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Speaker 1: that's a stretch to say that he'll be that one

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Speaker 1: guy that you know, he'll have a thousand yards. Hey

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Speaker 1: thing comes out in May, the schedule comes out in May.

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Speaker 1: If they get the giant sixteen times on Blake Jarlin

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Speaker 1: get a thousand yards because every time he balls out

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Speaker 1: against them. But that's not gonna happen. So that's a

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Speaker 1: very good point. Now I'm gonna agree, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: disagree with Hackman at the same time because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: kind of put my I'm gonna put thirty five percent

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Speaker 1: on this. I think that's where my pointer, my overall

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Speaker 1: is going to be with his percentage. But I also

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Speaker 1: you said I hope to see Blake Jarwin get a

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. Now, I don't think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: in that kind of category just because I think he splits.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna split a little bit more time than we

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Speaker 1: even see with Blake Bell kind of being in the

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Speaker 1: mix as well. And then also you could see a

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Speaker 1: tight end drafted by this squad next week as well,

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Speaker 1: So I think you might have two other guys kind

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Speaker 1: of in that mix at the tight end position. So

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Speaker 1: I think if we see Blake Jarwin get to a

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Speaker 1: thousand yards, he would have to be absolutely dominant no

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Speaker 1: matter what. And I don't want it to take away

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Speaker 1: from this offense overall, because we should see maybe another

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Speaker 1: receiver being added through the draft. So you're Michael Gallup

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Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper. So I'm just saying, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I want Blake Jarwin to be a thousand yard

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Speaker 1: tight end. There were only three last year now to

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Speaker 1: your credit. Heck, but two of those did end up

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Speaker 1: making the Super Bowl, Travis Kelsey and George Kittle. The

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Speaker 1: dumbly one was Darren Waller. So I mean, those are

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Speaker 1: three tight ends that are legitimate guys, but I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see Blake Jarwin kind of being in

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Speaker 1: that realm. I agree. I mean, like I said, if

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Speaker 1: he does, I said collectively as a group, but Jarwin,

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Speaker 1: think about it, Man and Rob you know, I know

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Speaker 1: you're a big fan of him, and you've you know,

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Speaker 1: written countless articles articles about his potential. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's that has been eating off of that

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Speaker 1: potential plate for a long time. And as an organization,

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Speaker 1: beat writers and everyone close to the Cowboys have always

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Speaker 1: said the kind of player that he is and the

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Speaker 1: kind of leadership that he potentially embodied. And so this

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Speaker 1: is a I wouldn't say all make a break year,

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Speaker 1: but I look for this year to be a breakout

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Speaker 1: year for him because you gotta know that defenses are

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Speaker 1: still going to roll coverages towards Cooper. You know, Gallup

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Speaker 1: can also be that guy. Both Cooper and Gallup are

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Speaker 1: gonna take the top off of defenses. And then look

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Speaker 1: you go back and you look at everything that's happening

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Speaker 1: underneath Blake. Jarwin is that tight end that gets that yack,

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Speaker 1: you know, after catch. So look, I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: him in this offense to having a significant production, but

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it will be a thousand yards

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Speaker 1: and I think yards after the catch is probably a

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Speaker 1: better statistic for Blake Jarwin than total yards whenever the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty season comes to an incause right now. I

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Speaker 1: mean in twenty nineteen he had eleven point eight yards

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Speaker 1: per catch, eleven point four and twenty eighteen. So if

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Speaker 1: he gets up to twelve and he's still giving that

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Speaker 1: kind of production with more STAPs than all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about him is one of the at least

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Speaker 1: top half of the tight ends in the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: moving on to our second question, Isaiah is going to

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Speaker 1: start things off on this one. All right, So defense,

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Speaker 1: I know you weren't a defensive guy, but will or

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Speaker 1: the defense will have ten plus interceptions in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I get a one hundred percent. Wow, yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: that one hundred percent. I think that the move that

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Speaker 1: they made UM this this offseason. Obviously they have Xavier

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Speaker 1: Woods and obviously they have UM. They brought in Haha,

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Speaker 1: Clinton Dix, and I think that, you know, with their

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach, right with the secondary coach, Al Harris. Think

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Speaker 1: about it, the way that he played right when he

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Speaker 1: was with Green Bay. He was like in your face,

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Speaker 1: put your hands on you, You're not letting you off

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Speaker 1: the line type of guy, I think that along with

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Speaker 1: front seven that the Cowboy is going to be bringing

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Speaker 1: this year. Obviously, with the additions of bow Uh Poe

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Speaker 1: and McCoy and plugging it up and being able to

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Speaker 1: really force close in on the pocket, I think that

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some problems for receiving corps and and

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Speaker 1: tight ends in this and with this defense. So I

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Speaker 1: believe that the Cowboys definitely will have ten interceptions. I

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Speaker 1: think just purely off of pressure in cover sex. I

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Speaker 1: like that kind of adding to the front side of

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Speaker 1: your defense to make the backside of the defense a

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Speaker 1: little bit better. And just for a reference, the last

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Speaker 1: time the Cowboys did have double digit interceptions twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: and they had ten exactly, and that was tied for

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth they had nine, and twenty eighteen they had seven.

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Speaker 1: Last year. We've talked about that seven number quite a bit,

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Speaker 1: But Rob, what do you kind of think in terms

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Speaker 1: of this. So we've got Isaiah saying one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: are you as confident? I'm confident. I'm not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I would say seventy five percent. That's where I'm at

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Speaker 1: right now. If Mike Nolan heard this question right now

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Speaker 1: he'd be like, seriously, we can only get ten interceptions.

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Speaker 1: That's all I can get my defense and year one,

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Speaker 1: because if you look at the NFL stats year after year,

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Speaker 1: if you're only getting ten interceptions, you're in the near

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Speaker 1: the very bottom of the league. I mean, most teams

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Speaker 1: are at double digits, if not twenty seven twenty eight

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Speaker 1: of thirty two teams Cowboys. I went a little further back, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: and they've they've gotten ten plus picks twelve out of

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years, so most of the time they

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Speaker 1: get them. And even last year. I know we've talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about the lack of takeaways from this Cowboys defense,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, they have not ranked near the top

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Speaker 1: of the league in years and taking the ball away,

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Speaker 1: but they still got nine last year. And I think,

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Speaker 1: I think what what Isaiah said spot on being a

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Speaker 1: little bit more multiple with your defense, maybe being a

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Speaker 1: little less straight up with things could create some more turnovers,

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Speaker 1: some more takeaways, and I think they'll get there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm right there at one hundred percent as well.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Rob, that was my point. Also, just

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Speaker 1: looking over the league and looking at the teams that

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Speaker 1: you know that have had more success with less talent

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Speaker 1: than we had, you know, with their with their takeaways.

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Speaker 1: And again you bring up a really great point as

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Speaker 1: far as what they've incorporated into their front front four

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Speaker 1: with mc and Poe being able to apply pressure to

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Speaker 1: those offenses. So look, I there's no way that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys do worse than they did last year. At least again,

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Speaker 1: I'm hopeful and definitely optimistic that they don't. And just

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Speaker 1: knowing that again, with the additions of guys like Al Harris,

643
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna see those little nuances be incorporated into the

644
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: defensive backfield. Not to say that the dB coach last

645
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: year didn't have that same thing in his wheelhouse. I

646
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: just think that it's going to be a different style

647
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: of play that we that we incorporate this year. I

648
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will amongst the league at the bottom

649
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: of the league as far as blitzes, and just again,

650
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: when you apply that pressure, it forces the hand of

651
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to make quick decisions and that's how those interceptions happen.

652
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: And when you get bigger upfront with guys like McCoy

653
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: and Pole, you know their tip passes. Things that happened

654
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: in that passing game for offenses that allow for guys

655
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: to get those easy picks. And with Clinton Dix again,

656
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the addition that you know that he's a guy that's

657
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna gamble and take those chances and not play safe.

658
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: And I think Al Harris as a coach is going

659
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: to get that. I mean, and another thing I want

660
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: to point out is that when you know McCarthy won

661
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: a championship in Green Bay, I mean he had free

662
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: agent guys. I mean you Sam Shields, Tremont Williams, guys

663
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: like that that played a really big role in those championship.

664
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson you know as well. So hopefully we have

665
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: that same kind of combination of our chemistry between these

666
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: guys that can far exceed you know, ten twenty. I'm

667
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: looking for twenty twenty interceptions this year from that group.

668
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's settle down a little bit, because

669
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: I have it at thirty percent. I'm taking a page

670
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: out of Mickey Spagnola's notebook, and the fact that you

671
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know exactly what this team has right now

672
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: at this very moment, as we speak on April fourteenth,

673
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we don't know who is gonna be the

674
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: star of the defense. I know you, yeah, I mean,

675
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: I guess other than Tank, you can you can write

676
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence in there. You don't have a right defensive

677
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: end at the moment. You still got to get Randy

678
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: Gregory and Alden Smith reinstated by the NFL. You've got

679
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: two aging veterans up front. Could they be really good

680
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: and could they be better than last year? Probably? I

681
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: would probably put them in that category, But until we

682
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: see what this draft class is, because right now, with

683
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: the draft class, it's not necessarily shaping up in the

684
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: fact that you're gonna get a top ten player in

685
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: the or a top twenty player in the draft. You

686
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: may have to reach a little bit on a corner,

687
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: you may have to reach a little bit on a safety,

688
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: depending on what happens in the first sixteen picks before

689
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: you get to pick seventeen. I don't I'm not confident

690
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: in this defense right now. You add Haha, Clinton Dix

691
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: at the safety position. Sure, that's a little bit of

692
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: an upgrade from Jeff He maybe. I mean, that's the

693
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: fact that that's a maybe is kind of scary to

694
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: me as well. Whenever it's moving forward. The one thing

695
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: that gives me hope is Mike Nolan. I mean the

696
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: fact that the coaching staff is different from Rob Marionelli's staff,

697
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: and I think overall, I think that's something that could

698
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: push us to double digits. I'm just not super certain

699
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: about it yet. Now ask me in two weeks, let me,

700
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: let me look at what this draft class is, and

701
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: I think maybe then I might be willing to raise

702
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: it up a little bit more. But I'm on the

703
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: opposite end of the one hundred percent. Maybe not the

704
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: full opposite end, but I'm just not one hundred percent

705
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: or as high as you guys are in that category,

706
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: at least at the moment. That's fun. Rob he hit

707
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: us with the Mickey heat. He hit us with that,

708
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so brought it back. And you know what,

709
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: if you're going off of Mickey's philosophy, he always says, well,

710
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: why are guys available in free agency? He wasn't that good? Right?

711
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: I don't agree that they're gonna they're gonna miss bid

712
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: me Jones, but but yeah, good. I mean, you're right,

713
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: there are question marks, but there's a ton of question marks.

714
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't think tends tends too much to ask we'll see. Yeah, see,

715
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: it'll be fun to look at. Okay, final question before

716
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: we head to our second break, and this one kind

717
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: of goes back to the first question, but I think

718
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: this one might be I don't know, maybe more likely

719
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: we'll see in just a second. But Tony Pollard, our

720
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: backup running back slash connoisseur of things out of the backfield.

721
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Mister Tony Pollard has one thousand total yards in twenty twenty. Now,

722
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: that's receiving, that's rushing. Last year he had four hundred

723
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: and fifty five yards rushing on eighty six carries. He

724
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: had fifteen receptions for one hundred and seven yards, so

725
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: just under six hundred yards. Can he get to that

726
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: thousand yard plateau come twenty twenty? Yeah, I'm I'm gonna

727
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: start this off. I'm gonna say I'm eighty percent sure

728
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: that Tony Pollard can get that done. Coming out of Memphis,

729
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: he was touted as a guy that definitely did more

730
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: in the passing game for the Memphis Tigers. I know

731
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot has been made of Cobb going to Houston

732
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: and how we're going to go into the draft and

733
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: find a young, talented guy, which I'm sure we will,

734
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: but we may have the answer to that already on

735
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: our team. And Tony Pollard. I think that when you

736
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: look at the evolution of the running back position with

737
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, with Christian McCaffrey, and you see that there

738
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: are a lot of demands on the running backs to

739
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: do a lot in the passing game. I think that

740
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: you'll see that with Tony Pollard this year. And then look,

741
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: this is not a new phenomenon. Guys like Marshall Faulk,

742
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: Roger Craig you know that played the position and they

743
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: did a lot in the plast and games when especially

744
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: when their teams went to those empty sets. I think

745
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is going to present a challenge. Anytime you

746
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: have an off ball linebacker on a guy like Tony Pollard,

747
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: he's going to present a problem. And especially and not

748
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: to diminish our make light of what he is in

749
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: the running game as well. He's very explosive. So I

750
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: think he can do a thousand yards easy this year.

751
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: All right, Rob, I'm my question is is he going

752
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: to play enough? And because I think he was at

753
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: less than twenty percent of the offensive snaps last year

754
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: and with a new coaching staff, maybe that changes, But

755
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen that, I'm I'm less bullish on that. Heck,

756
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm at like thirty percent. And I think he's got

757
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: the capability to do it, because, like you said, even

758
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: though he didn't he wasn't that high of a playing

759
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: time last year. I think he's still almost got six

760
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: hundred total all purpose yards. But with Zeke there, and

761
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: if Zeke indeed is going to be this huge still

762
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: focus of the running game, like like McCarthy says he

763
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: will be, and I have no reason to believe he

764
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be, I think it's still gonna cap Pollard's role

765
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. In addition, kind of like what we

766
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: said about Jarwin, just so many other weapons on offense.

767
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a tough task. Although you know, if

768
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: you factor in what he could do in the return

769
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: game as well, maybe that bumps that total up a

770
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: little bit. Even though he hasn't been a punt returner

771
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: and the people you know, when I've talked to people

772
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: in the organization, it's not something you just throw somebody

773
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: out there to return punts. It's not something he's done.

774
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: But even with the kickoff returns, maybe he could he

775
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: could check that total up a little bit, but I

776
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that this one made me make

777
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: the most. Kyle, this is a good one. But I'm

778
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: thirty percent or so, all right as am. I'm gonna

779
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: go right down the middle. I'm gonna go at fifty percent.

780
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: And the reason, man is, you don't know how coach

781
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: McCarthy plans on utilizing how how are your plans on

782
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: utilizing his weapons? Right? And if you're in the NFL, right,

783
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: And I think this kind of gets overlooked in terms

784
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: because you have so many big names, you have so

785
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: many superstars that kind of kind of take the take

786
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: the rein. But if you're in the NFL, you're you.

787
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: You deserve to be there, and you have a huge

788
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: skill set. And obviously there's no question you've ever heard

789
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: everybody's opinion already, Paula. He there's no question whether or

790
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: not he can run the ball. There's no question run

791
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: that he can take the ball and receive return. He

792
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: has all those skills. But if we don't know how

793
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: McCarthy plans on utilizing him, we don't know how he

794
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: plans on splitting time with Zeke. We don't know if

795
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna go do a lot more two back in

796
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: terms of utilizing the full back like he's done in

797
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: the past. So just from the standpoint if we don't

798
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: know how they're going to utilize their personnel, I can't

799
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: go either way on it. I'm gonn going right down

800
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: the middle, because if they utilize them, well, he'll get

801
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: a thousand. You know, If they don't utilize them in

802
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: the way in which we know he can be used

803
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: and how a lot of coaches choose not to use

804
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: their talent that they have on the rosters, then then

805
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: he won't get there. So it's really all in the

806
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: hands of the coaches. I think as a player, I

807
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: think he'll he'll take care of business whatever opportunities are

808
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: presented to him. And I think some of the reasons

809
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: that you have in terms of keeping it fifty fifty

810
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: or some of the reasons why I have it a

811
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: little bit higher, I think I like the fact that

812
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: you have a new coaching staff, a new set of

813
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: eyes that come in and kind of evaluate that talent. Now,

814
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: they haven't had a chance to really evaluate that talent yet.

815
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: So of course, with the situation that we're in, it's

816
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: going to have to kind of rely on maybe training

817
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: camp and some of the other workouts that are going

818
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: to happen throughout the course of the off season before

819
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: they really get a feel for who Tony Pollard is.

820
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: But you talked about the six hundred total yards last

821
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: year all purposes, You've got four hundred and fifty for

822
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: fifty five yards rushing. I don't see that really taking

823
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: a huge jump. I mean, you can maybe get to

824
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: five hundred, six hundred, but he had eighty six total carries.

825
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: If he gets one hundred, you're knocking on the door

826
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: of six hundred. But I think he could double or

827
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: get even more than double of his receptions. He had

828
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: only fifteen receptions last year. This is a guy who

829
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people when he was being drafted out

830
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: of Memphis had listed as a wide receiver. I think

831
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be utilized in the passing game a

832
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: little bit more. So I'm gonna say seventy percent. I

833
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: think he's going to add some more receiving yards. He

834
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: only had one hundred and seven last year. I think

835
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: he could bump that up close to three hundred and then.

836
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: I also think, depending on if he can get fifteen

837
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: twenty more carries, he could maybe start to find a

838
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: little bit of a rhythm as a backup running back

839
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: and be utilized in that offense and maybe a dual backfield.

840
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: We were kind of clamoring for that last year as well.

841
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: So at least at the moment, Rob believes that it's

842
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: more likely that Blake Jarlin gets one hundred yards or

843
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: a thousand yards in the season, then we've got Tony

844
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: Pollard getting a thousand yards. I didn't expect that one, Rob. Well,

845
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: to your point, Kyle, Well, Kellen Moore is still the OC,

846
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: so there is some carry over to last season. But

847
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore may very well looked back and say we

848
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: didn't use him enough, and maybe Jason Garrett had had

849
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: a hand in that as well and how he was used.

850
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: But you go back and look at his usage, his

851
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: touches game to game is kind of puzzling at times.

852
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he would have a big game and then

853
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: he might have two or three touches the following week.

854
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: It was like he was in a lot of times.

855
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Speaker 1: to get you ready for that as well. So with

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933
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Speaker 1: of the best Cowboys draft classes that you've seen in

935
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Speaker 1: recent memory. With kind of the holes that there are

936
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Speaker 1: kind of that teeter totter back and forth between unique

938
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Speaker 1: who has more pressure at this moment? Guys, whenever you're

943
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Speaker 1: talking about the NFL Draft, Mike McCarthy and his coaching staff,

944
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Speaker 1: the scouting department, or the front office or the three

945
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Speaker 1: that I've kind of want to talked about or talk

946
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Speaker 1: about here in the next twelve minutes or so. But

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Speaker 1: let's start with Mike McCarthy. This is a guy who

948
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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily involved in the Green Bay's draft process, but

949
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Speaker 1: now he comes and he's now the coach of the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, one of the most polarizing figures in sports.

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Speaker 1: What kind of pressure is he dealing with heading into

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Speaker 1: next Thursday. Personally, I can take that woman. I personally

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Speaker 1: think that he's gonna be good. I think that he's prepared.

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably more prepared than any other coach

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Speaker 1: in the league, honestly. I mean, you think about what

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Speaker 1: he's been doing over the past year. He's been sitting

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Speaker 1: in preparing. He's literally less all he's been into it.

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Speaker 1: He's preparing. You know, he's been sitting in there. He

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Speaker 1: has been well documented that he's been sitting and with

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Speaker 1: his staff and you know, just just taking notes man

961
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Speaker 1: watching film a lot more watching film on the future

962
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Speaker 1: versus watching film on the current. Um. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: he's had that luxury over the past year. So I

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Speaker 1: think that he's probably more prepared than any other coach

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Speaker 1: in this league to go out and have a great draft.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say my other points for your for your

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Speaker 1: other questions. All right, that's a great point, Isaiah, because

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Speaker 1: not only has he been I mean, he's spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time looking at the NFL and trends and

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Speaker 1: analytics and things of that nature, but he probably could

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Speaker 1: could have gotten a peek at the college game too,

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Speaker 1: more so than a coaching staff that's having to spend

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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty hours a day coaching a week to week

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So yeah, I don't worry about that

975
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Speaker 1: so much. And he did say when he got hired

976
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Speaker 1: that you know, there's a there's a knock on Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones from people that really aren't even know that he's

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Speaker 1: he's too involved. He doesn't he doesn't involve as many

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Speaker 1: people in in draft decisions. But that's really not the case.

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Speaker 1: And he said, from what he's seen already, it's more

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Speaker 1: of a voice that he's going to have than he

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Speaker 1: had in Green Bay. To what you said, Kyle earlier

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Speaker 1: about about how that structure was with the Packers. Yeah,

984
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Speaker 1: so we're shopping for players online this year. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And you know the thing is is that what you

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Speaker 1: know Mike McCarthy in the whole you know, the specials

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Speaker 1: that they did on him conduct conducting the largest Fantasy

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Speaker 1: league draft last year in Green Bay with his think

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Speaker 1: tank and going over analytics there in his barn in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. He has a lot uh invested in this

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Speaker 1: and he knows well better than anyone that's who's available

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Speaker 1: and what's going to be there for the Cowboys. And

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Speaker 1: and you make a great point, Kyle about you know,

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Speaker 1: his past drafts with Ted Thompson, and it's you know,

995
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Speaker 1: these things have been you know, everyone knows about how

996
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Speaker 1: private Ted Thompson was, and anytime there was you know,

997
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Speaker 1: any part of that that happened where guys failed or

998
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Speaker 1: in the draft, McCarthy was the guy that was always

999
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Speaker 1: out front taking the pressure for those things. But here

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Speaker 1: in Dallas he won't have to deal with that. And

1001
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Speaker 1: so it kind of you can't have one without the other.

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Speaker 1: But the pressure is definitely on for Mike McCarthy because

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Speaker 1: he has to hit the ground running with this team,

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Speaker 1: and it's this draft is more pivotal for him than

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Speaker 1: any coach really because with what he already has and

1006
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Speaker 1: with the pressure that he's going to have with this

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Speaker 1: polarizing team in the Dallas Cowboys, you know that he's

1008
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Speaker 1: again he's going to have to have some success early.

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Speaker 1: I think that success could potentially come, but it's not

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Speaker 1: just him. That's the thing is a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are looking at this as Mike McCarthy led draft, but

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Speaker 1: there's so many different parties that are involved. And we

1013
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: talked about kind of the virtuality of the NFL Draft

1014
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Speaker 1: and kind of the way things are gonna work, and

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Speaker 1: there are some updates. Whenever it comes to the all

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Speaker 1: virtual draft, every coach, every GM will have a camera

1017
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Speaker 1: inside of the room. That's kind of what we expected,

1018
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Speaker 1: not only for fairness concerns, but also just for media

1019
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Speaker 1: and kind of keeping up with the draft, and apparently

1020
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Speaker 1: those have already been set up by it professionals around

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00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: the league. We talked last week about some of the

1022
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Speaker 1: problems that could arise. Some of the issues in terms

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Speaker 1: of hackers or just malfunctions and communication without communications apparently

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Speaker 1: been solved because there's a dedicated draft line where you

1025
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Speaker 1: could get multiple parties from the same team. So you've

1026
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: got the GM, you've got the coaching staff on the

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Speaker 1: line with other gms and coaching staffs on a secure

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Speaker 1: network that you can kind of draft and have those

1029
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: trades back and forth. So maybe it's going to be

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00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: just as easy as ever to be able to find

1031
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Speaker 1: a way to make a trade happen. But also there's

1032
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Speaker 1: a mock draft expected this upcoming week, which is kind

1033
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: of interesting to me, and I want to talk about

1034
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: that here in just a couple of moments. But with

1035
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: all of these moving parts, I feel like the pressure

1036
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Speaker 1: is on also the coaching staff, or as well as

1037
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff, but it's also on the scouting department,

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Speaker 1: because that scouting department is kind of the only part

1039
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Speaker 1: of this whole thing that has really gotten a chance

1040
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Speaker 1: to look at all of these prospects at a next

1041
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Speaker 1: level or even in person type of meeting. Right that's

1042
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Speaker 1: I just want to say, guys that for Mike McCarthy,

1043
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: he's got to be really confident in the infrastructure that's

1044
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Speaker 1: already there for him with Will McClay and Stephen Jones,

1045
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: and that's the one thing that has to give him,

1046
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Speaker 1: you know, help him sleep at night. I mean, when

1047
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Speaker 1: you talk about the difference between Green Bay, where he

1048
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Speaker 1: had player development guys like Reggie mackenzie, he walks right

1049
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: into a similar situation here in Dallas with Will McClay,

1050
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Speaker 1: and so I just think that if you look over

1051
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Speaker 1: the draft, the quality draft picks that we've had, and

1052
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Speaker 1: you know that going into this draft, we're gonna have

1053
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Speaker 1: to get the most of you have to squeeze that

1054
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Speaker 1: vine and get all the juice out of it that

1055
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Speaker 1: we can because we're gonna need for our fifth and

1056
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Speaker 1: six round draft picks to actually make the fifty three. Yeah,

1057
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Speaker 1: I agree. I'm curious. I'm curious what Isaiah. I'm curious

1058
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Speaker 1: what Isaiah thinks about it. Because we've talked at length

1059
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Speaker 1: about this roster, and while they've done some good job,

1060
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: a good job plugging holes, there's I still think you

1061
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: can look at pretty much any position or most positions

1062
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Speaker 1: and say, well, they could still use an impact player here,

1063
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Speaker 1: especially maybe a corner or a pass rusher and to

1064
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Speaker 1: actmos point. They didn't you know, without a first round pick.

1065
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Speaker 1: They didn't have an impact guy really last year consistently,

1066
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Speaker 1: and they need at least a couple of those. I

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Speaker 1: think this year possible, Isaiah, which isn't always easy to

1068
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: do in the draft. Par Yeah, it's definitely not easy

1069
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: to do, and it's not easy to do with the

1070
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: picks that the Cowboys have a lot of to them

1071
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: right now, unless they plan on doing some trading in

1072
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: the future. But you know, one thing I want to

1073
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: continue to drive home is the strength of the coaching staff,

1074
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: And the strength of the coaching staff is gonna put

1075
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Steven Jones, Jerry, Everybody's gonna put them at

1076
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: ease simply from the effect that they don't have to

1077
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: knock something out the park. They don't have to have

1078
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: a knockout draft pick every single time. So this is

1079
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: gonna allow for them to relax. It's gonna allow you know,

1080
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: you know that the the staff there, the Scoutons department,

1081
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: to do what they do. You know, they've been working

1082
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: on this for the past year. They've been keeping eyes

1083
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: on guys for the last few years, you know, and

1084
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: they've been so They know these guys very well. They

1085
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: know their Upsy knows that, they know their downs, they

1086
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: know their their mental toughness, Right, that's gonna be another

1087
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: thing that's gonna be um that's gonna be attributed to

1088
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: to this roster that that are going to really identify

1089
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: as a guy who's mentally tough, who's going to be

1090
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: able to come into the Dallas Cowboys. First of all,

1091
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: you know the hightened media coverage, the scrutiny that they're

1092
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: going to be under underneath the pressures of a new coach. Right,

1093
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: So the mental toughness is more important than just a

1094
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: physical talent to me at this point, because you can

1095
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: develop physical talent, mental toughness takes substantially more time. Absolutely, Yeah,

1096
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Kyle, oh No,

1097
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: I was just going to kind of go off of

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: what you were saying. Also, you talk about with the

1099
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: trades that are going to potentially have to happen in

1100
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: order to try and kind of maneuver your draft capital

1101
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: to fit those holes and to kind of find maybe

1102
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: some of those impact players that Rob was just talking about,

1103
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: And I think that does add pressure to really anything

1104
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: that all three of you guys said, I think it

1105
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: adds pressure to the front office because even Heckmo a

1106
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: moment ago you said that you kind of have to

1107
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: rely if you're the scouting department and Mike McCarthy, you

1108
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: got to rely on the foundation and kind of the

1109
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: infrastructure that's been set for this Cowboys front office, and

1110
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: they're the ones that ultimately end up making the picks.

1111
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the ones that are on that that

1112
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: draft line potentially trading with other teams. What kind of

1113
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: pressure is this some of the most pressure that we've

1114
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: seen on Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones moving into draft weekend,

1115
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: just with the scenarios that are kind of at Hyand

1116
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really think so, Kyle, just because

1117
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: I think it's it's the it's the hand dealt to

1118
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams. It's it's okay. It's not an

1119
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: ideal situation for anybody. And well, we talked about with

1120
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, and Isaiah makes some great points about

1121
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: the confidence in that group. They're a little bit at

1122
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: a disadvantage because of this seasons uncertainty in terms of

1123
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: getting players on the field, But from the front office, standpoint.

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00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: You mentioned scouts in front office separately. I put them

1125
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: in lockstep because Will McClay is in lockstep with Jerry

1126
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: Jones and Steven Jones. They know what they're each other's

1127
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: looking for. And I think that's an advantage over other

1128
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: teams who have changed front office personnel in the off season.

1129
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: They've they've got the bulk of their their core front

1130
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: office in place, and I think for a situation like this,

1131
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: they're in pretty good shape. Absolutely, And that's that's exactly

1132
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: the point, you know, having that that solid foundation of

1133
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, scouting department that's not gonna reach on a

1134
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: draft pick. And so you look at seventeen and we've

1135
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: talked about this as far as the draft, that those

1136
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: players that they've had earmarked are are gone. You know

1137
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: what do they do as seventeen? Do they trade back

1138
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: and do they you know go to the you know,

1139
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: BPA philosophy and if the best player available is a

1140
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: center from you know, LSU or from Michigan, they go there.

1141
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that, like you said, Isaiah,

1142
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: they don't have to knock it out of the park

1143
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: with each draft pick. What they do is they have

1144
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: to have guys that are mentally tough and ready to

1145
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: come in and contribute immediately. Absolutely, and to that point.

1146
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: You know, I always think about whenever I hear everybody's

1147
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: speaking about the draft and all, we gotta get these

1148
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: big name players and we gotta get these guys gonna

1149
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: come in and have a big impact. I think about

1150
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: back to Seattle. You know, think about what Seattle did

1151
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: back in the day. You know, they're they're starting to

1152
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: get back to the roots and there in regards to

1153
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: the draft. But Seattle, they never felt the pressure to

1154
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: have to have a big name guy. They just didn't.

1155
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the biggest name guy they

1156
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: having their roster right now. They didn't have to do

1157
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: anything crazy to attain him, right They trusted in their system.

1158
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: They knew exactly what it is that they weren't they

1159
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: were looking for where their day to identify the mental toughness,

1160
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: They identify the personality, and they identify the work ethic

1161
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: of the person and then they waited for them at

1162
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: their at their proper positioning, and then they grab them.

1163
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: So I think that the only position that the Cowboys

1164
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: necessarily have to grab in terms of talent wise, is

1165
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: that corner. I think they have to go out and

1166
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: get a corner. I think you can't miss on that

1167
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: because you just it's hard to develop corners. It just

1168
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: is just too many, too many intangible as that are required,

1169
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: and it takes too much time for a corner to

1170
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: go from good to great. So I think if you

1171
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: have somebody that you can go out and grab, that's

1172
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: awesome already. I think you have to go out and

1173
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: grab that person. But in terms of everything else, every

1174
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: other position, you have people in place already. You think

1175
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: about the old line, old line has been good for

1176
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: a while. D line, You got a lot of talent

1177
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: on a D line. Linebackers, you have great leadership there

1178
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: and some young talent that's already been coming up. At safety,

1179
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: you have a veteran in there, you have a young

1180
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: talent in there, you have great coaching there. Right, So

1181
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: you start looking at all these different positions. All the

1182
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: positions are set for corner really have a superstar in regards,

1183
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: so you don't have to go out and get anything

1184
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: a set for. You have to mandate mandatory. You have

1185
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: to get a corner. You hear that Cowboys Nation, you

1186
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: can't be mad if aj Terrell from Clemson or Trayvon

1187
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: Digs from Alabama as your first overall pick at seventeen.

1188
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: You can't be mad about it because you got to

1189
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: trust the system, right Isaiah and spitting the fire immediately.

1190
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: I love it now really quickly, just before we get

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00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: out of here. We got about a minute and a

1192
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: half left. I mentioned the mock draft a little bit earlier,

1193
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: and I just think this could be the I wish

1194
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: I was a fly on the wall. Let's just say that,

1195
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: because with a mock draft the week before an actual draft,

1196
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: it's not like your fantasy draft where you do mock

1197
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: drafts with other people. These are gonna be the same

1198
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: people that you're drafting with and then you're gonna turn around.

1199
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a mock draft. And this is all

1200
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: for technicalities and trying to figure out the it what

1201
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: kind of bluffing is going gonna be made in this

1202
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: mock draft, and then also what picks are going to

1203
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: be made there that are not made whenever actually next

1204
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: Thursday comes around. Because I think that's one of the

1205
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: most intriguing things out of this whole testing process of

1206
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: trying to get the virtual draft ready. A lot of

1207
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: bluffing a mock draft is gonna be a lot of bluffing, man. Yeah,

1208
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think it gonna make can make actual

1209
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: pick mock picks. Are they just gonna say, hey, pick X,

1210
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, or something like that. I hope they would.

1211
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: I'd bluff the hell out of it if I'm just see,

1212
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: I think that'd be so funny just to bluff everything up. Oh,

1213
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: the Bengals are taking two a first and then the

1214
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: second pick the Redskins are gonna take Joe Burrow, and

1215
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's all thrown off and

1216
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: it's all crazy and kind of crazy from then on out.

1217
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: But I just was wondering if they were actually gonna

1218
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: make picks. But Rob, you make a good point. I

1219
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: bet they're just gonna go with X and Y and

1220
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: just different values here and there. But that is gonna

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: do it here for Talking Cowboys special thanks to Isaiah

1222
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: stand Back joining the crew for the first time today.

1223
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: Glad to have you, man, and can't wait to talk

1224
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: to you again soon down the line. I appreciate it, man,

1225
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be a partner crew. Absolutely so for

1226
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back. For Rob Phillips four. Heck my Harrison.

1227
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long here for talking Cowboys.

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01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. This has been a pretty

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.