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<v Speaker 2>to three DP Show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter handle a TP show Hall of Famer John Elway

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<v Speaker 2>back on the program. John, How you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And how you doing? I'm doing great?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the Is that a portrait or a jersey behind

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<v Speaker 2>you there in your office?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all you have?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was trying.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it adds color, so yeah, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>you would have Montana behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, that's it's very nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah they did.

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<v Speaker 2>You did you collect jerseys from those guys? I did not.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not that that that that bad came after me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we never never really did that, even though I do

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<v Speaker 4>have a I have a marina in a Montana. I

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<v Speaker 4>do have some, but it wasn't something we did all

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<v Speaker 4>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you care where you're ranked all time? When rankings

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<v Speaker 2>come out that greatest quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 5>How?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't. You can't do anything about it now.

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<v Speaker 2>But how competitive are you?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that you know everybody, you know, everybody has

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<v Speaker 4>different opinions on different players.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously we're all in different situations.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you just like to be in the common conversation, right,

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<v Speaker 4>That's the key thing is if you're in the conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>then you did all right during your career. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that you know, you look at all the great

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<v Speaker 4>quarterbacks that I played against that you know during our

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<v Speaker 4>time that you know, I have so much respect for.

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<v Speaker 4>And sure we were competitive when we were playing, and

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<v Speaker 4>UH want to be the best, but you know, ultimately

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<v Speaker 4>to win football games and try to win world championships

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<v Speaker 4>and so yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were all competitive.

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<v Speaker 4>But what's funny is I think you know, once we

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<v Speaker 4>get away from the game, where you know, we were

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<v Speaker 4>good friends during while we were playing, but probably better

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<v Speaker 4>after we got done.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think you're better than Joe Montana or

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<v Speaker 2>Tom like? Do you have to have that mindset to

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<v Speaker 2>play the position that you're you're the best at doing this?

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<v Speaker 4>I think yeah, I think so. I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's when you're going through it. Obviously, certain guys do

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<v Speaker 4>some things better than you do. They say, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I could do that a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 4>do it as good as Danny. Danny obviously had a

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<v Speaker 4>tremend this release and got rid of the football quicker

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<v Speaker 4>than anybody. But you know, I think ultimately you have

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<v Speaker 4>to believe that you're the best and that nobody can.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, nobody can do it better than you can.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that is a mindset you have to

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<v Speaker 4>have to even have a chance to get into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Marino was so ahead of his time with that

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<v Speaker 2>five wide Noro running back. I mean they were running

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<v Speaker 2>what you're running now. Did you ever think, hey, let

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<v Speaker 2>me talk to coach and see if we can run

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing in Denver?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think yeah, I think that we were all kind

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<v Speaker 4>of jealous what Danny was doing down there, because, like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, I mean nineteen eighty four, I think you

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<v Speaker 4>threw for five thousand yards, right, and that was in

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<v Speaker 4>a sixteen game schedule, and that had you know, back then,

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<v Speaker 4>you just wanted to hopefully get to you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>was really three thousand was a good number, and then

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<v Speaker 4>if if you got to four thousand, that was like

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<v Speaker 4>over the top. And so and then Danny in his

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<v Speaker 4>second year, you know, he got well, you have forty

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<v Speaker 4>eight touchdowns and over five thousand yards, and so he

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<v Speaker 4>got there in a hurry. And yeah, from that point

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<v Speaker 4>and point on, I think, you know, statistically, we're all

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<v Speaker 4>chasing Dandy because he was, you know, setting the world

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<v Speaker 4>on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to assess these rookie quarterbacks, I mean, even drafting,

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<v Speaker 2>how difficult is it. You played the position at the

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<v Speaker 2>highest of levels, but you're trying to find a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>when you're with the Broncos. What is it that you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for? And maybe what is it that you missed

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<v Speaker 2>with these quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Dan, I think it is. I think it

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<v Speaker 4>is such a combination you have to have. Not only

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<v Speaker 4>do you have to have the quarterback. But I really

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<v Speaker 4>believe even more important because all these kids coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of the coming out of college or high draft picks,

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<v Speaker 4>they are all great athletes. Can throw it, can make

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<v Speaker 4>all the throws, can move around, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think the key thing is to get them in the

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<v Speaker 4>right situation with the right coach offensive coordinator, quarterback coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Or head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I think is so important because how these kids are

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<v Speaker 4>brought into the league and how they are brought along

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<v Speaker 4>because as you know, there is no patience anywhere in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL when it comes down to waiting on a

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<v Speaker 4>young guy, especially at the quarterback position, to get used

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<v Speaker 4>to playing in the NFL, because it's a huge, huge jump,

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<v Speaker 4>and so not only is it tough to find, it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard to see what's inside. You can see it on tape,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's hard to see what's inside. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>the most important thing is is that combination of a

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<v Speaker 4>head coach or as I said, an offensive coordinator that

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<v Speaker 4>brings that quarterback along slowly, doesn't get them put them

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<v Speaker 4>in situations where they're over their head. And because as

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the criticism in the NFL can be a

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<v Speaker 4>lot and I think and I always say this too,

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<v Speaker 4>especially those high picks. They they've been great in high school. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>they were great in college. They've always been great athletes,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've never experienced a lot of negative press, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that a lot of times the world can

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<v Speaker 4>start caving in on them when they don't have success early,

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<v Speaker 4>especially if they're putting situations that they can't handle, because

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<v Speaker 4>not only is the complication of the offenses in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>but also what they're doing defensively, and that takes a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of time, and obviously you got to be patient

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do that, which I think. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Sean Payton's doing a great job with bo Nix and

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<v Speaker 4>Denver while you're seeing him have the success that he's

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<v Speaker 4>having because of the way that he's bringing them along. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>Vans Joseph's got the defense going. They're playing great defense

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<v Speaker 4>to where they're not loading everything up onto that quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>and expecting him to win football games week in a

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<v Speaker 4>week out. And so I think that's the progression, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's why, you know, we you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>success rate is not as good as it should be

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<v Speaker 4>because of the fact of the combination of the player

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<v Speaker 4>but also the combination of the situation is getting put in.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to John Elway, the Hall of Famer, Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 2>once said, if he was drafted in the first round,

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't have survived. You started, Peyton. You guys were

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<v Speaker 2>probably in over your heads those rookie years. And here's Brady,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the greatest quarterback or certainly the most decorated. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to sit and watch. You didn't get that luxury.

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<v Speaker 2>How over your head were you that first year, first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Dan, I was, you know I was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was fortunate and not looking back on it at

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<v Speaker 4>the time because my rookie year, I started the first

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<v Speaker 4>four games. The first two games I played, I got

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<v Speaker 4>benched at halftime Steve de Berg with her backup and

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<v Speaker 4>actually I got benched at halftime in Pittsburgh, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we went to Baltimore, I got benched. Fortunately Steve came in.

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<v Speaker 4>We won both those football games. I started the next

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<v Speaker 4>two games, and then Dan said, hey, listen, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna make a chance. So Steve de Berg ended

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<v Speaker 4>up I ended up getting benched after my fourth game,

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<v Speaker 4>and which actually was the best thing that could ever

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<v Speaker 4>ever happened to me because Steve de Berg came in

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<v Speaker 4>played the next four games, and I had a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>To stand on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this is where I agree with Tom and

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that the perspective of not being in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the heat and having a chance to be

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<v Speaker 4>the backup watch from the sideline was a big, big

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<v Speaker 4>plus for me. And then Steve ended up getting hurt

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<v Speaker 4>and in the fifth game, and then I was back

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<v Speaker 4>in and he separated his shoulder. So I played the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the year, but that four week period that

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<v Speaker 4>I saw on the bench helped me tremendously for the

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<v Speaker 4>next time when I ended up starting the last half

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<v Speaker 4>of the season. So I think it's always good too,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not to be in that fire right away,

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<v Speaker 4>to get a real good feel of exactly what's going on,

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<v Speaker 4>because nobody knows what a big jumping is coming from

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<v Speaker 4>college football at the NFL, especially at the quarterback position,

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<v Speaker 4>and and so, like I said, that four week time

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<v Speaker 4>that I got banch was probably helped me the most

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<v Speaker 4>of any any time in my career.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Young has said on numerous occasions on this show

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<v Speaker 2>he wishes he was playing now because they protect the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>They're begging you to run. They protect you when you run,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said that it's too easy. Now, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about you in today's game, given your skills?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously the rules have changed and you know, they're making

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<v Speaker 4>the game a safer game, which is a good thing,

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<v Speaker 4>taking some of those unnecessary big hits out of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, obviously the quarterbacks have get protected a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, My biggest fear was, you know, defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 4>falling off guys and hit me in the legs when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm you know, throwing a twenty five yard to come back,

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<v Speaker 4>all my weights on that front leg and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they can't hit there. And the other thing I always

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<v Speaker 4>say too was, you know, I get asked many times

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<v Speaker 4>as well, who hit you the hardest? And it was

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<v Speaker 4>usually the ground when they were on top of you

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<v Speaker 4>and they landed on top of you. The ground is

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<v Speaker 4>what hurt the most, right, So they can't they can't

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<v Speaker 4>land on you anymore either, So but I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's the transition of the game. I still

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<v Speaker 4>you know, obviously what they do with the game and

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<v Speaker 4>the past game, how important it is now that you

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<v Speaker 4>know it would be you don't get hit as much,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's still a physical game. And I still say

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't trade when I played, you know, back in

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<v Speaker 4>the eighties and nineties to now, just because the game's changed,

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<v Speaker 4>the camaraderies changed. The locker room to me was a

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<v Speaker 4>place that was almost home for me and so and

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<v Speaker 4>I think all that stuff's changed with the amount of

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<v Speaker 4>money that's out there, that's that's all changed. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, even though I wouldn't change it, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to say it wouldn't be fun to play today's game.

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<v Speaker 2>When Fritzie said that we could get you on and

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<v Speaker 2>he said that you've been suffering dupatrin and people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand I have it. I have it in both hands, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And so when Fritzie said that you have this, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're working with a pharmaceutical company, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had surgery on my right hand and I haven't and

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't really clear it up. So give me, help

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<v Speaker 2>me understand what I can do explain the condition to

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<v Speaker 2>the audience, because there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>have it and may not realize what they have.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're right, it's amazing you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>five percent of the population has du Patron's contraction. It's

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<v Speaker 4>really kind of a constriction of your hand, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>your fingers and your hands and the cords in your hands.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a college and build up in your hands to

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<v Speaker 4>where you know, your hand starts restricting. You can't put

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<v Speaker 4>your hand flat on a table.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot of pain with but it

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<v Speaker 3>was more of annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that it's and it's a condition that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>get it doesn't go away, and it doesn't you can

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<v Speaker 4>make it better, but it doesn't go away. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>a progressive condition. And so I just went to break

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<v Speaker 4>our trainer and say, you know, what's going on with

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<v Speaker 4>my hand, and and so I didn't. To me, it

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<v Speaker 4>was the annoyance, and so I ended up with the

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<v Speaker 4>non surgical side of it, and so it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was much better that way. I know, surgically, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>six to eight weeks recovery, whereas the one the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I did was the non surgical was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>probably about a week to two weeks, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually it worked in both my hands, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to I'm now able to, you know, put

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<v Speaker 4>my hands back on a table flat and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>have that constriction.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so how do how do you help me? John?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what you're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go find your hand specialists and ask them about the

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<v Speaker 4>non surgical way to go about this and be able

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<v Speaker 4>to release the collagen and the cords in your hands

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<v Speaker 4>so you can stop the constriction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to have surgery again. It's go

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<v Speaker 2>to facts on hand dot com for more information before

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<v Speaker 2>I let you go. If I gave you two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>to get ready, how far could you throw the football?

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, that is a good question. If he gave me

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<v Speaker 4>two weeks, I think I could probably eventually get it

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<v Speaker 4>to fifty yards I think, but not pausitive.

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<v Speaker 3>But then the recovery time might be longer than the.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you talked to bo Nix?

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<v Speaker 4>I have not had a chance to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 4>I went out to OTA's and obviously it just got

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<v Speaker 4>to town and so there was a lot of different

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<v Speaker 4>things going on in his world and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people pulling at him. But you had a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>watch him, and I think DEM's in great shape. They're

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<v Speaker 4>excited about what he's doing and I think Sean and

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<v Speaker 4>Davis Webb are doing a tremendous job and hand and

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<v Speaker 4>breaking them.

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<v Speaker 3>In the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you, John, Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure, Dan, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>John Elway Hall of Famer. And yeah, I have that

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<v Speaker 2>same condition both of my hands. I had surgery. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many years ago. But you can't put

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<v Speaker 2>your hands flat on a table because your your fingers

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<v Speaker 2>are they call them trigger fingers. So if you have that,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go to facts on hand dot com. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take a break. We'll talk to the raining, the

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<v Speaker 2>freshly minted rookie of the Year, Paul Schemes from the Pirates.

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<v Speaker 2>Your phone calls as well. We're back after this Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Since we just had John Elway on, I have the

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<v Speaker 2>odds to make the NFL Playoffs DraftKings the Broncos. Broncos

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<v Speaker 2>have better odds than the Niners do to make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>better than the Bengal and certainly better than the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the National League Rookie of the Year. He's

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Skins, the Pirates pitcher back on the program. Last

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<v Speaker 2>time I saw you when you got the honor, you

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<v Speaker 2>had a fireplace scene behind you look really nice and cozy.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you make the fire.

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<v Speaker 6>I did not, and I think it looked all right,

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<v Speaker 6>but not quite as good as the fireplace scene You've

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<v Speaker 6>got behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>So similar, but I'm not winning any awards. How did

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<v Speaker 2>you celebrate when you got the honor?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean we had a number of my teammates

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<v Speaker 6>and coaches and you know, some people that have just

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<v Speaker 6>kind of affected my career in the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 6>So they were all there. Got to celebrate with them,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, just it was nice to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to to experience it with them, because it takes a

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<v Speaker 6>village to have any sort of success.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like in April when you're in the

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<v Speaker 2>minor leagues wanting to be called up but not getting

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<v Speaker 2>that call?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean that was the thing that that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>people have been telling me, my parents, my coaches that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of thing since this time last year was just

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<v Speaker 6>be patient because we don't know what the plan is. Necessarily,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't know, like I mean, truthfully, we didn't know how, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, how how I was going to be because

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<v Speaker 6>I you know, had a feeling that I was going

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<v Speaker 6>to do, you know, have success and I believe to

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<v Speaker 6>myself and that kind of thing. But you don't really

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<v Speaker 6>know how you're going to do until you're in it.

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<v Speaker 6>So just be patient and put in the work and

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<v Speaker 6>and uh go compete and then it'll all take care

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<v Speaker 6>of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>How does your personality help you benefit you because you

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<v Speaker 2>seem pretty even keel.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think, I mean, it's just how I am,

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<v Speaker 6>and I've I've I think I've realized it a lot

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<v Speaker 6>more over this year, this past year, this past season.

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<v Speaker 6>It definitely doesn't hurt. I think just being able to

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<v Speaker 6>stay consistent in this game because it is because you

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<v Speaker 6>can really ride the roller coaster, the ups and the

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<v Speaker 6>downs through through one hundred and sixty two. So just

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<v Speaker 6>being able to stay consistent, and I think it helps

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<v Speaker 6>me do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but when you give up a home run, you

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<v Speaker 2>get mad internally, you don't show it, but when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>hits a bomb off of you. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Sometimes I get mad sometimes, I mean there's I

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<v Speaker 6>think there's pictures of me this year, like smiling after

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<v Speaker 6>I give it a home run. Sometimes frankly, sometimes I

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<v Speaker 6>think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So why why is it funny?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it's just you know, kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 6>their approach, whether they executed it or not. Like there

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<v Speaker 6>were there were a couple of times where, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>guys just jumped me this year and I was just like, well, whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't. You can't. You can't really avoid that to

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<v Speaker 6>some extent, so who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like? Facing Otani?

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<v Speaker 6>It was cool. It was cool obviously the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the first a B and then the second AB he

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<v Speaker 6>got me. But that that is cool because we you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we went back to his uh you know, back to

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<v Speaker 6>their place, and just having the opportunity to face him

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what, five or six times this year

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<v Speaker 6>and knowing that it's going to be five or six

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<v Speaker 6>times next year and in the year after that like that,

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<v Speaker 6>that that's pretty cool to to look forward to where

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<v Speaker 6>it's not just you know, reading a scouting report and

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<v Speaker 6>throwing to a certain uh certain location, like you got

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<v Speaker 6>to play baseball and and actually get the guy out.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's a cool, cool experience.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the rookie of the year. Pirates pitcher Paul Schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a pitcher do in the off season?

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<v Speaker 6>So what I Yeah, what I did was took three

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<v Speaker 6>weeks completely off and really just on my body and

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<v Speaker 6>my mind, settle, relax for a little bit, and then

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<v Speaker 6>got right back into it throwing and lifting. This is

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<v Speaker 6>the kind of the point in the off season where

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<v Speaker 6>you're really just getting your butt kicked probably five times

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<v Speaker 6>a week by the workouts, just because that's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>that's where we're at in the off season, and got

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<v Speaker 6>to build strength, build work workload, work capacity, all that

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<v Speaker 6>and and ramping up. So it's not it's not fun necessarily,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, hopefully get to enjoy it a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit too, take some trips and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're not a surprise, so the rest, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody gets a book on whether it's a hit or

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<v Speaker 2>a pitcher. Uh, do you work on anything? You add

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<v Speaker 2>anything in your second season? Are you working on anything?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I think I will. I don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 6>it is going to be yet because where I'm at

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<v Speaker 6>right now, like I just can't work on any any

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<v Speaker 6>other pitches right now, I'm only throwing fastball. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>something that I'm a little bit more present with it

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<v Speaker 6>this off season rather than thinking about because last off

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<v Speaker 6>season I was kind of like, oh, want me to

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<v Speaker 6>do this and this and this, and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 6>about all that in September, But you can't really start

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<v Speaker 6>doing that until December January. So I'm now I'm kind

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<v Speaker 6>of at the point where I'm like, all right, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>I'll figure it out a little bit in uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>November December. So I don't know exactly what the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>what the character that's going to look like, but I

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<v Speaker 6>think there's going to be something that I'll figure out

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<v Speaker 6>because there are ways for me to get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a baseball nearby?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is that possible? Should you have a baseball nearby?

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<v Speaker 2>Driving in your car holding the bit? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing? It's a cowboy without a hat on.

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<v Speaker 6>I know if I were in the car, I would

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<v Speaker 6>have it, because I do drive with one in the car,

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<v Speaker 6>but I don't have one right here. I got Christmas decorations,

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<v Speaker 6>but nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we we have to work on the background here, Paul, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to be this good for a long

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<v Speaker 2>period of time, we have to have a better backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>when we when we have you on TV.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm figuring that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the fireplace was great, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean that looks like a college dorm that

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<v Speaker 2>you got going on there. You get your girlfriend to

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<v Speaker 2>spice it up a little bit, you know, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>do some decorating in there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we'll do, we'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Congratulations and well deserved and thanks for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>as always.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I appreciate you having me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Paul Schemes, Irons Venture nationally Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 7>Does he realize how unintentionally funny he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but you can't, you know. It's just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>he won Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm liking him more and more each time.

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<v Speaker 2>The delivery is great because it's deadpan and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking you gave up a home run and you're smiling. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not your normal reaction when you're giving up a

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<v Speaker 2>home run, but great appreciation for what he did. I mean,

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>there was stuff that you're what now, he was tuned

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<v Speaker 2>in factor. He was There's a few pitchers who have

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 2>been tuned in factor and he certainly was, and heirt's

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 2>got something there. But you know, they kept him in

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the minor leagues, and you know, I think that was

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 2>there was some headlines that were written about why are

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 2>the pirates keeping him there? And it has to do

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 2>with service time and how many years? And you know,

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I think there was there were some people who were

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<v Speaker 2>pushing back on why why is our best pitcher maybe

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<v Speaker 2>our best player in the minor leagues in the month

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of April. But certainly got his chance and proved that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was with he was at Air Force, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he goes to LSU and then all of a sudden,

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>you're on display at the College World Series and things

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>changed quickly. I had a couple of phone calls here,

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<v Speaker 2>let me see Curtis in Illinois. Curtis, thanks for holding

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 8>One DP Brian Babel might be some harder than we

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 8>think he is. I think last Monday he thought he

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 8>could be fired. So he went into John Mayer's office

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 8>and just said, you know, I know we're not good,

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 8>but what if I could possibly save you twenty three

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 8>million by benching Daniel Jones And mar agrees to it

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 8>and wants to see what Drew Locke can do, and

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 8>then Dave All replies with, actually, he could earn up

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:21.919
<v Speaker 8>to about three million incentives, So how about we just

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.120
<v Speaker 8>go with fan favorite Tommy DeVito.

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to give Brian Dabel the credit on this.

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 2>This feels like this was upper management and a financial

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 2>decision because they didn't want to pay Drew Locke with

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the incentives he has in his contract. You don't want

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 2>to pay Danny dimes Danny millions, and you got Tommy DeVito.

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So it just made sense that you put Tommy DeVito

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>in there and then you ride this out. Yes, Seaton, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Kind of agree with that. For some reason, I feel

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<v Speaker 9>like if the Giants were to fire Brian Dable, they'd

0:24:54.080 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 9>be making a big mistake. Okay, I know, I feel

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 9>like he might be a better coach than what the

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 9>Giants are showing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you start with the quarterbacking situation, so

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>you get that, you inherit that, and then you have

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to make good on that. I mean, it's not his

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>fault that they let Saquon go. It's not his fault

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>that they kept Danny Dimes. But you know, you could

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 2>be right with that with his role there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's weird when you have these seasons, somebody

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>has to pay the price, and maybe it's coordinated. Whatever

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>it is, fans are like, Okay, finally we're doing something.

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>If you stand pat with this, it feels like the

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>fan base is going to be like, what are we doing?

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, at least the Jets are cleaning house here,

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 2>but the Giants aren't, then they're probably you know, equally bad.

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Pauline, I'm leaning with Seaton on this one, and

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 7>it's not gonna be popular because, like you said, fans

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:00.120
<v Speaker 7>want action, not sticking. But this guy was with the Bill,

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 7>he was with Alabama, he was with the Patriots. He's

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 7>been with a lot of winning franchises. His management team

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 7>kept his quarterback. I'm sure he had input, but the

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 7>management team kept the quarterback. I would let it play

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<v Speaker 7>out a little bit because this guy has a history

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 7>of being a very good coach with very good franchises,

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 7>and that's why you brought him in and trying again,

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 7>You've already got a good coach there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let it play out a little well, okay, and I

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<v Speaker 2>agree I wouldn't let him go, But I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>know what the philosophy is in the building. What if

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick says, hey, they reach out to him and

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:35.239
<v Speaker 2>he wants to coach the Giants. He wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>full circle back where he was an assistant coach. Now

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, Brian Dable is not as attractive.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're only as attractive as the other candidates who

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 2>are or could replace you. And I think that's you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have the Belichick factor with all of this

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>with Jacksonville, can you get him as he an upgrade

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<v Speaker 2>over Doug Peterson? Obviously the Jets are not possibility. I

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Cowboys are a possibility. How many places

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 2>will be open to Belichick? And would the Giants be

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 2>one of those teams? Will the Bears be one of

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 2>those teams? And I think that's where you have to

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 2>factor in the Bears have a quarterback. The Giants don't

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>have a quarterback. The Jets don't have a quarterback. Cowboys

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>do have a quarterback. Jacksonville, you're paying your quarterback to

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>be a franchise quarterback. Yes, Paul Bill Belichick will be

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>seventy three when next season starts. That would make him

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 2>seven years older than the oldest head coach in Andy Reid.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that will hurt his chances because they

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not a seven year higher, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>four year higher.

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<v Speaker 7>If all goes well, five year higher. And it's not age,

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 7>it's reality.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, like you said, what his age is.

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I actually thought he was older. It hasn't come up yet.

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think if he does come back in, they're

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 2>going to say, hey, you know, when the season starts,

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be seventy four years of age. That

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>might factor in, But I think fan base is certainly

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, the older, more experienced, knowledgeable, you're all

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>in on that instead of hey, this guy did wonders

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>in college. Let's bring in Lincoln Riley. That makes me

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 2>more apprehensive, more nervous. Belichick, Now, can he be set

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>in his ways? That's an issue. Does he want to

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>be GM? That could be an issue. Is the old

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>school that could be an issue as well, But somebody's

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 2>going to hire him, and probably Jacksonville at least it

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>certainly feels that way. Dan in South Bend, Hey Dan, Hey.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Dann, thanks for taking my call. I think we need

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 5>to look at the.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 6>Draft a little bit and let it play out.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 5>You always say let it play out two or three years.

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 5>They got Neighbors, he's good. They got Charny ct Junior,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 5>that running back, he's good. They got a quarterback that's

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.479
<v Speaker 5>probably top four five in the draft this year. And

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 5>they knew we saw on the show. They knew that

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 5>they hadn't out with Danny Dimes after this year. That

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 5>was no secret. So I mean, I think we need

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 5>to let it play out at least another year before

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 5>we start calling for anybody's heads or anything like that.

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, let's let it play out. A Giants feel

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 5>to me anyways, way more positive than the Jets.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean Brian Dable, as Pauli and Seton pointed out,

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got a proven track record here, but

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you have a bad roster and it starts with your quarterback.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Neighbors is good, really good. The question is, now, are

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>you going to draft a quarterback, You're going to try

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to trade, You're going to try to bring somebody in

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 2>free agency? What is going to happen and is it

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a band aid or can you find your franchise quarterback?

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Those are the tricky things with all of this. I mean,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the Jets, they did really well

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>drafting and then they drafted Zach will Well, everything they

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>did with their draft was negated because they had a

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>quarterback who wasn't ready to play. So then they trade

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>a first round pick and they bring in Aaron Rodgers. Well,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers gets hurt. Who knows what he could have

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>been that year, and then you have this season and

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it feels like they're getting rid of everybody that he wants.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, Joe Douglas has now gone the GM. Aaron

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>has said he'll come back, but he wants the interim

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>coach back as well. He got everything that he wanted

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and it went south quickly. I just think this is

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>a team that's going to have to move on take

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>a cap hit with Aaron Rodgers. Does DeVante Adams want

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>to stay if Rodgers isn't there, Like, there's a lot

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>of decisions that are made there, but it's not an

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 2>attractive job to me because of the owner. It's not

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>an attractive job because if Aaron Rodgers wants to come back.

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can have an owner say let's

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>bench Aaron four games in that Aaron would want to

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 2>come back, or you would want him back. Yeah, poem.

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<v Speaker 7>Going back to the Giants quarterback situation, they'll probably have

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 7>a top five draft pick. But if they were going

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 7>to go with the free agent route, you know how

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 7>the most interesting free agent quarterback is for twenty twenty five.

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 7>I want to play that game after the Burt Joe

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 7>Flacco one more. Guess this guy is fascinating to me

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 7>right now. He's having a very good season. He's back

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 7>in the NFL radar, and he's about to lose his

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 7>job to a rookie Sam Donald of the Vikings. They're

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 7>gonna go with JJ McCarthy next year. Sam Donald is

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 7>at the end of the year, is not under contract.

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 7>He is twenty seven years old and has a top

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 7>ten quarterback rating and it's probably gonna get a mid

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 7>level contract. Not that he'll get the Baker Mayfield, not

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 7>the big That's a fascinating offseason quarterback play for a

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 7>team that's good and doesn't want to rebuild a quarterback.

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>But do you think you could do that to Sam

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 2>having come back to this into the crime where he

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was there with the Jets, and now all of a sudden.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 7>I think he may want to sign with the Giants.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, JJ McCarthy's probably going to be the starting quarterback.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>You're right, but yeah, all right, came back. Donald.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 7>If I told you two years ago we'd be doing

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 7>a show where there's a bidding war for Sam Donald.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if there's a bidding war yet.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm saying in the off season.

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Not yet.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 7>I think we have to have another team that would

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 7>be interesting. I'm in on the Sam Darnald. I'm calling it.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 7>He's going to be a hot property. What in April?

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 7>Scalding hot?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we come back. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to play in or Out. We're back after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to play in or Out? Paulie, would you give

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the audience and us a refresher on the guidelines the

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>rules are playing in or out?

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 7>Glad to DP. A lot of people are still struggling

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 7>with the rules. It's if I'm going to present a

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 7>topic or a thesis, or a theory or a statement,

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 7>and you say I'm in, which means you're in, get correct,

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 7>and out, which means you're out. You got this down,

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 7>But the rest of America we'll pick up.

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 7>The Jets situation currently is the worst situation in the NFL.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 7>In or out, And if you're out, tell me who

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 7>is the.

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Worst tod I'll start with you.

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 10>I'm going to say in. They are in the worst spot.

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<v Speaker 9>Con um See, I'm sort of of the thought that

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 9>not having a coach, at GM, a quarterback, any of

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 9>those things puts you in a better spot than other people.

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 9>Oh so I'm I'm out on that. That being said,

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 9>I'm not sure who's in worst shape right now, but

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 9>I'm maybe the Browns. They seem to perpetually be in

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 9>terrible shape. That might just be my own bias to

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 9>I don't think that the Jets are in terrible shape.

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Marvin in or out on the Jets being the worst

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>in the worst position of all NFL teams, I'm out, you.

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 10>Know, I think they can start fresh, start a new

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 10>The worst situation probably the Titans.

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>They're bad in irrelevant, you're over too well, Cleveland Panthers, Titans.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>There's there's a couple of teams in there. What I'm about. Yeah,

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm out on the Jets being the worst in the

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 2>worst shape. Here we go.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.280
<v Speaker 7>The Denver Broncos are set at quarterback.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 10>In I don't know if I was supposed to go

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 10>first Todd.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 11>I really like what I see, and just in his

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 11>rookie year, he's already breaking all kinds of team records.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>He looks very no doubts, right, no doubts, no doubts.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 10>I feel very good that he could be a long

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 10>term answer for the Broncos a quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Does anybody out on bow Nicks being the guy the

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<v Speaker 2>man in Denver? No? Wow, Yeah, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 7>That's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Here we go.

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<v Speaker 7>College football needs Dion Sanders more than the NFL does.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna go first, hard in. They need characters at coaches,

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<v Speaker 7>and we've lost college football lostfile doesn't need anything, right exactly, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need anything. College football's lost college football, college basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>they've lost big time coaches. NFL does not need anything. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I still I'm uh. I'm in on that, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in on that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that it's probably more likely still that Dion's

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<v Speaker 9>next destination would still be Florida State over the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did bypass him the last time they did.

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<v Speaker 2>But now he can back up the truck this time though,

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<v Speaker 2>if he wants.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody's in on this right in in in, Okay, a

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<v Speaker 7>couple more. Indiana is going to beat Ohio State on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd, I want them to, but I'm saying out Seaton,

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<v Speaker 2>I so want that to happen. I'm all in one, Okay, Marvin,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 10>Let's go, Antoine, Randa Lel, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm out. If it was at Indiana, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be in. I would be in Indiana. Oh, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out because it's out of Indiana.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm Indiana on this one. Can you imagine a world

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<v Speaker 7>where Indiana beats Michigan and Ohio State in the same year,

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<v Speaker 7>much less the same day in football? In football, wild man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>Army Football can play with any college football playoff team.

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<v Speaker 7>This was based on a few different people in sports

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<v Speaker 7>media saying Army doesn't belong in no matter what their

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<v Speaker 7>record is because they can't beat heavyweights.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in a a you're either one or done. They can. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that that style is very tricky. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>do I think it's sustainable If they're going against great teams?

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>If they were in the SEC or the Big ten, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't be having this conversation. But they're not. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like Boise State. You got a chance, you

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of it, and maybe you knock somebody off.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say I'm in in a one and

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<v Speaker 2>done situation. There you got all right?

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<v Speaker 7>Two more Lakers guard Dalton connect will win Rookie of

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<v Speaker 7>the Year. Recency bias.

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<v Speaker 2>Little recency bias has recent as last night. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>I do it. I'm gonna do it out on it. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I don't know what kind of numbers he

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<v Speaker 2>can put up on a consistent basis. Will he get

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<v Speaker 2>that opportunity? A lot of times with rookies of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to take more shots, you get to be

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<v Speaker 2>more prominently displayed, featured. I don't know if that will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll have these moments where he'll get twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five and then go back to getting seven. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven last night, hitting the threes. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's impressive. I just don't know if he'll get those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody in on Dalton connect as the rookie, Oh, Paully

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<v Speaker 2>is all, Todd is all.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm all about recency bias.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's a bunch of randos above him, like Jared McCain.

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<v Speaker 7>He's doing okay for Philly, Zachary Reschasse from Atlanta, but

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<v Speaker 7>they're not lighting things up and they're on non not

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<v Speaker 7>very relevant teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not going to be you know, displayed. The

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers are always on so you get to see him.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he's good, he will turn out to be

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<v Speaker 2>really good in a lot of people's eyes, they'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to see him.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, last one, this just hit the in or out page.

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<v Speaker 7>But based off last segment, the Sam Darnald free agent

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<v Speaker 7>market is going to be scalding.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot, scalding. I'm gonna be out on all. I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>regret it. Anybody, and besides Paulie on the Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 2>Fan Club, anybody.

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<v Speaker 9>Believe the word frenzy is being frenzy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sweet Steaks, I think he oversold it a little.

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<v Speaker 10>Bites Scalding made me feel like I got you out

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<v Speaker 10>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm going out.

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<v Speaker 7>I strongly disagree with your disagreements because Sam is twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 7>stumbled into a really good season and by default will

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<v Speaker 7>be the only high end free agent quarterback in the

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<v Speaker 7>off season. It's a timing play.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're all in duly noted in March duly No,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we come up with duly noted? Checking that

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<v Speaker 2>expression duly noted? Yes, Marv, what about the expression further

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<v Speaker 2>ado that sounds French that without a yeah? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>your dog? That is nothing my dog? This is your

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<v Speaker 2>dog bite, That is not my dog.

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<v Speaker 7>Duly noted is an academic term used over one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>years ago for it was put down in notes for

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<v Speaker 7>your official file, so duly noted.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>It was put on some type of file or report.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was the duly Report, and it was duly noted, and.

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<v Speaker 11>People listening to previous adeo were like, can we speed

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<v Speaker 11>this up? Let's tell how about we have no further ado.

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<v Speaker 11>We got things to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well without further ado. We'll take a break coming up

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<v Speaker 2>the mess that is the Jets, and we'll look at

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<v Speaker 2>the college football rank. King says, well, final hour in

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<v Speaker 2>this Wednesday straight Ahead