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Speaker 2: It is the Draft Show here at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 2: Brian brought us manning the mic one more time? How

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Speaker 2: about that? Can't get rid of me. I'm like, gum

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Speaker 2: on your shoe.

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Speaker 3: It brought you back, It brought me back.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like the the movie The Godfather.

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Speaker 3: Right, I haven't seen him, seen The Godfather, The Godfather.

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Speaker 4: It's Godfather three everything.

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Speaker 2: Every time I'm trying and get out, they pull me back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly. That's the that's the nineteen nine and one.

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Speaker 5: That's the one that's not very good.

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Speaker 2: You need to see the guys.

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Speaker 6: I've been on like a big mob movie kick recently. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and I've had like three conversations about The Godfather in

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Speaker 6: the last week.

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Speaker 3: So I do need to watch.

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Speaker 2: I need to watch.

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Speaker 3: So the Three's not worth it, though, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, it's just it's stupid. It came around like sixteen

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Speaker 5: years later. Yeah, I don't know, Like Mario Puzzo needed

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Speaker 5: a buck or something, and so they made a third

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Speaker 5: movie and it was a waste of time and it

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Speaker 5: had Sophia Copela in it and she couldn't act.

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Speaker 2: No, here's here's here's not a waste of time for you.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk some draft today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Talk some draft. We're inside a week well it's actually

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Speaker 2: draft week, So I'll introduce my scouts here. Nick Harris,

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Speaker 2: Bobby belt, i Issham Morrison, Chris Biemer in the back.

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Speaker 2: I want to go around the room, and here we

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Speaker 2: are really days away. We're starting to count down the hours.

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Speaker 2: I want to go around the room and just give

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Speaker 2: me one thought about It didn't have to be about

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Speaker 2: a player, doesn't have to Maybe it's something you're hearing,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's something that you know you're feeling about this draft.

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Speaker 2: Give me one thought, Nick Harris, that you're kind of

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Speaker 2: right now feeling about as we get this started this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering when the trades will start firing off.

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Speaker 6: You know, away from the Cowboys pick, there's a certain

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Speaker 6: level of expectation that I think we could all have

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Speaker 6: for the Cowboys trading back in the first round. I

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Speaker 6: think if a certain crop of guys are not on

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Speaker 6: the board at twenty four, then they start getting on

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Speaker 6: the phones. But aside from that, when do the trades

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Speaker 6: start firing off for whoever's going to hop into the

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Speaker 6: top five to get J. J.

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Speaker 3: McCarthy, Who's going to be that.

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Speaker 6: Team that kind of slides back to be able to

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Speaker 6: get a better position with a defensive player, but also

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Speaker 6: pick up draft capital in that top ten. So it's Monday,

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Speaker 6: you would have to think those those things start firing

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Speaker 6: off here in the next forty eight hours, but it

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Speaker 6: also could be on draft nights. That's kind of the

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Speaker 6: thought that I have coming into today. But as far

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Speaker 6: as the Cowboys pick goes specific offensive line, obviously, I

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Speaker 6: think for me, this is kind of where I'm leaning

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Speaker 6: right now. If there are three guys that are not

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Speaker 6: And I think those three guys are Troy Faltanu, J. C.

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Speaker 6: Latham and Graham Barton. I think if those three guys

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Speaker 6: kind of my thought right now.

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Speaker 2: Aisha got a thought for me? Your second draft. You've

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Speaker 2: been a part of, done a hell of a job

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Speaker 2: to get it to this point right now. Probably a

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Speaker 2: little tired, We're all a little tired, probably a little irritable.

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Speaker 2: You get a thought for son, where you feel like

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Speaker 7: I think we talked about it on the draft one

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Speaker 2: I think everyone, by the way, hell of a job

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Speaker 2: by all you guys too, And yeah, thanks to Brian,

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Speaker 2: thanks to the fans out there.

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Speaker 7: Cam Lord.

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Speaker 2: I just I just think I've learned to deal with

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Bobby, Bobby's Bobby's good.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 9: So I think that I they feel like a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if it's just me because I like chaos,

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Speaker 7: Like you know, we.

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Speaker 9: Talked about obviously offensive line is in need. They've had

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Speaker 9: all those things. But I just I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 7: This is this is important, man.

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Speaker 9: Like they haven't touched free agency, really, they haven't done

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Speaker 9: really anything in the off season too, in my opinion,

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Speaker 9: get better this draft. They have to have some urgency

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Speaker 9: And so I'm wondering if Nick brings up trade backs

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Speaker 9: some things that we don't expect on day one.

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Speaker 5: Robert Belt, Yeah, I'm gonna be sweating all the way

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Speaker 5: up to twenty four trying to see if Graham Barton's

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Speaker 5: gonna come down or not.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's like I honestly, that's all I

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Speaker 5: consider it because I've just I know there's a good

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Speaker 5: possibility he's not there, and yet I'm sitting here just

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Speaker 5: really tough to then figure out where they go from

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Speaker 4: And so for me, it's even.

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Speaker 5: Though I know there are other guys there that that

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Speaker 5: makes some sense, like you just mentioned Troy Fatano, Jac

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Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, and even if you like those guys

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Speaker 5: it's still just as when that pick happens, if it's

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Speaker 5: somebody having the Barton, I'm gonna be sitting there on

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Speaker 5: like in my head, I'm thinking, what the hell are

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Speaker 5: But even taking him, I'd be sitting there thinking, I

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Speaker 5: don't know what's gonna happen at Center next year. I

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Speaker 5: don't know how that's gonna look. And that that, to

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be just watching the board

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Speaker 2: For you at twenty four, if you guys were sitting

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Speaker 2: do you feel like that they have a handle on

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Speaker 2: your issues right now? The things that you guys are

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Speaker 2: thinking about, do you think they have a handle on

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Speaker 2: this for the first time in a long time, there's

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Speaker 2: that chaos that we don't know is there? Do you

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Speaker 2: feel like that they? I mean, I feel like they're

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Speaker 2: right now, I wonder if they do have that.

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Speaker 4: Outlet light, Like how predictable they think the first twenty

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Speaker 2: Sure, I think I think.

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Speaker 5: Teams usually have a better beat on how things are

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Speaker 5: going to fall ahead of them than than we realize.

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Speaker 5: But I mean it certainly happened for the Cowboys openly

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Speaker 5: acknowledged when they picked Seed Lamb, Like we had every

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Speaker 4: He didn't get down there and so and so.

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Speaker 5: Like I mean, thinks things can happen in front of

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Speaker 4: If we like this guy, we got to watch out here.

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Speaker 5: And I think they know what's probable and what they're

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Speaker 5: looking at. Yeah, I think that they've got to handle

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Speaker 6: I agree with all those points, but with that being said,

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Speaker 6: kind of hearing all the smoke from the insiders and

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Speaker 6: people that know a lot more sure, like the Daniel Jeremiah's.

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Speaker 2: Of the world. I don't know if they know more

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Speaker 3: I would I would.

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Speaker 6: I would say that just kind of hearing from what

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Speaker 6: are fearing how wild.

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Speaker 3: This is going to get on Thursday night.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you know that there's there's an element of unknown

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Speaker 6: that has been kind of more prevalent this year than

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Speaker 6: in any other draft, and that the trades kind of

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Speaker 6: play into that. That's that was kind of part of

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Speaker 6: the my first answer as well, you know, when does

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Speaker 2: Why do you embrace the chaos?

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Speaker 9: I don't know if I embrace it, because y'all know

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Speaker 9: I got anxiety, But at the same time, I just

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Speaker 9: think Nick brings up a good point of just how

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Speaker 9: top heavy this draft is in some positions, and then

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Speaker 9: obviously a lot of the teams that need quarterback and

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Speaker 9: just how that's gonna fall. I mean, I was surprised

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Speaker 9: that you answered the way that you answered, though, Bobby.

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Speaker 9: As far as like Brian asking is do you think

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Speaker 9: that they have a good beat on things? I interpreted

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Speaker 9: that as do you think that they feel the same

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Speaker 9: So you're talking about Graham Barton early. I thought that

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Speaker 9: was how I thought that was where because I think

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Speaker 9: I don't know all the info, but I do think

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Speaker 7: Confidence in brock Hoffman.

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Speaker 9: So I wonder I don't think it's enough personally, like

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Speaker 9: we don't think it's enough to be like, oh no,

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Speaker 9: we can grab a center later. But what if they

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Speaker 9: really do feel like that from the inside.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think I think that they absolutely

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Speaker 5: would operate with brock Coffin at center because they need

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Speaker 5: contingencies in place. I don't think that's anywhere near their

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Speaker 5: their optimal plan. If you gave them a number of

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Speaker 5: Here's how your your lineup can look. I don't think

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Speaker 5: It's just a matter of, you know, what are their

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Speaker 9: And for me, it falls back into kind of the

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Speaker 7: How season long these seasons are getting.

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Speaker 9: There is so much value in having backup offensive linemen

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Speaker 9: So brock Hoffman falls into that category to me, with

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Speaker 5: I do think that they believe TJ. Bass could start,

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Speaker 6: We just got to see it. We haven't really seen it.

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Speaker 6: The only times we've seen it as in practice reps.

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Speaker 6: But you've got to see it that that's that's it.

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Speaker 2: I kind of felt that way about Barton playing center

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Speaker 3: You know, I seen what he did freshman year though.

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Speaker 3: I think with TJ. Bass, I mean, he's the guard

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Speaker 2: I think he's the guard.

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Speaker 6: I think he's the guard of the future, and he's

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Speaker 6: probably gonna be Zach Martin's eventual replacement if he doesn't

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Speaker 6: me to be able to buy in completely. But I

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Speaker 6: lined up at center between brock Hoffman, TJ. Bass and

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Speaker 7: I'm so excited for a center competition, aren't you. Guys

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Speaker 9: I mean, it was just it was time to be honest,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, I got a question for you. Quarterback, offensive line, wide, receiver,

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Are we going like outside the top five here? I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, so like outside those top three quarterbacks and

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick to this.

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Speaker 6: I would probably lean more towards I've just been feeling

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 6: I got conon Mitchell coming off at twelve, Cherry and

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Speaker 2: Did you have Mitchell above or did you just do

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Speaker 3: I have Mitchell above as well.

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Speaker 4: Okay, as well.

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Speaker 6: I have Mitchell as my number one corner. I love

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Speaker 6: Toledo those four interceptions in a game. I'm going to

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Speaker 6: But uh, I think I think I'm leaning towards the

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Speaker 3: Could the receivers happen? Absolutely? Could the offensive line happen?

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Speaker 3: I think so absolutely as well.

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Speaker 6: You got Joe Alton tell the essay, Fuaga and my

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Speaker 6: think teams start looking up at pick twelve, and Denver's

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Speaker 11: Probably.

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Speaker 6: I think if they don't go up and get McCarthy

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Speaker 6: and it starts to run.

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Speaker 2: Bobby listening to go ahead, I show try to ask.

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Speaker 7: Why do you know your host?

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Speaker 2: No go ahead?

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Speaker 9: I was gonna ask, why do you think there's gonna

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Speaker 7: Again? With how deep corner.

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Speaker 9: Is, because yeah, these guys are the top guys, but

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Speaker 9: So why do you think that they will go get corner.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you look at those names at the top and

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Speaker 6: This is just a guess here. Complete guests this board

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Speaker 6: and fall a million different ways. But I think when

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Speaker 2: Bobby Nick thinks the draft is going to start at twelve.

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Speaker 4: You there with him, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look the way the uh right about that, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's probably I've heard it twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard it twice.

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Speaker 5: Look, I mean the the way, the way all these

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Speaker 5: wrench into things. Obviously, who comes up and gets either

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Speaker 5: we assume. It may not happen, but if you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you where you think the using.

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Speaker 5: Offensive line like to me, because it's just it's so

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Speaker 4: Quality pretty quickly.

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Speaker 5: So I think like teams are going to just be like,

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Speaker 4: To be gone.

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Speaker 2: Aisha though offensive line run bad for cowboys.

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Speaker 9: Right, I mean, yeah, But the way that we've talked

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Speaker 9: I think that there somebody's going to be there, that.

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Speaker 7: They're interested, that you have some interest.

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Speaker 9: In if it falls correctly, especially if it doesn't start

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Speaker 7: So I mean, I think I think it could be harmful.

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Speaker 9: But then also too, you brought up, and you brought

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Speaker 7: Be a defensive play.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, at that point If that happens and people just

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Speaker 2: Nick, will everybody go nuts if they pick an off

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Speaker 6: I don't think everybody would go super nuts, but there'd

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Speaker 2: If you back up to thirty, Bobby linebacker or maybe

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Speaker 2: would like. But Bobby, if you were to trade back,

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Speaker 5: I mean, man, if you pick up the extra draft capital,

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Speaker 5: and say we're going to take Cooper here at Texas

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 5: So you depending on how much capital you pick up,

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Speaker 5: these centers that you might like that could get to

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Speaker 5: you in the second or third round. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if Fraser gets there in the second round, maybe I

447
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Speaker 5: don't know, but I mean like that you are going

448
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Speaker 5: to have other options there, like Norzad and Van Prant

449
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Speaker 5: and guys like that that I think with the extra pick, yeah,

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Speaker 5: with the extra pick, but then like you're still addressing

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Speaker 5: some of the other things that you need to do. So

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Speaker 5: I don't have a problem that they if they take

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Speaker 5: Cooper back there, I would I would feel like going

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Speaker 5: back to thirty two making Fraser at least just for me,

455
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Speaker 5: would be a little bit of a reach compared to

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Speaker 5: where I have other centers like he would be the

457
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Speaker 5: third one, but there's enough clustered around it, whereas with Cooper,

458
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Speaker 5: like right behind him, you're talking about like Peyton Wilson,

459
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Speaker 5: who's a really good player, but there's obviously a ton

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Speaker 5: of questions medically, and then after that there's a significant drop.

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Speaker 5: I don't love the linebacker class. So if you can

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Speaker 5: get Cooper, I think you can get away with center

463
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Speaker 5: third round something like that.

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Speaker 2: I issue you want to follow up with anything on that?

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Speaker 7: All right, I'm sorry, no, no, I was just listening.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, one thing about my mark about going back

467
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Speaker 6: to the runs, I just kind of counted before pick

468
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Speaker 6: twenty four, six offensive lineman coming off the board and

469
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Speaker 6: three corners. But I just have those three corners coming

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Speaker 6: off a little bit quicker. But I still expect there

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Speaker 6: to be a run on offensive lineman. I still do

472
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Speaker 6: before twenty four. And that's man, We're gonna be sitting

473
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Speaker 6: around pick eighteen, pick nineteen on Thursday night just praying

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Speaker 6: that there's not another tackle that comes off the board

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Speaker 6: or another center that comes off the board.

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Speaker 2: All right, With that being said, though, on the potential run,

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Speaker 2: how willing are you all before we go to break,

478
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Speaker 2: How willing are you you guys to just sit there

479
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Speaker 2: and let it happen and not trade up and not

480
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Speaker 2: trade up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's where it gets interesting. Because you don't

482
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Speaker 6: have a ton of draft capital this year. You probably

483
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Speaker 6: don't want to sacrifice some next year, even though you

484
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Speaker 6: are expecting comp picks next year. It just depends what

485
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Speaker 6: kind of assets you're willing to give up.

486
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Speaker 4: I don't think you can do it.

487
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Speaker 3: I don't think you can.

488
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Speaker 4: Like I mean, they're just there.

489
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Speaker 5: They've made a conscious decision to Barton address the depth

490
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Speaker 5: through the even Barton at nineteen. It sucks. It's a

491
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Speaker 5: reality of the draft that sucks. But I mean to me,

492
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Speaker 5: it's like you, you've made a conscious decision to replence

493
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Speaker 5: your depth through this draft, and that's the how to

494
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Speaker 5: fourth round pick.

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Speaker 4: You can't give up anymore.

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Speaker 7: H Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I just think they don't have Like I

498
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Speaker 9: said before, they haven't done anything. This is their money

499
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Speaker 9: maker right now, so they need to go in and

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Speaker 9: go in there with the mindset that they have to

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Speaker 9: get better. So however they decide to do that, you're

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Speaker 9: saying you don't think that they should ransom ani picks

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Speaker 9: for next year or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: No, Like I mean, I think like the the the

505
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Speaker 5: extra capital that they have being in the like fifth round,

506
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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's gonna be enough that somebody

507
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Speaker 5: will be like, yeah, I'll take a fifth round or

508
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Speaker 5: next year, I'll let you move up five spots in

509
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Speaker 5: the first round. So you don't have the cap and

510
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Speaker 5: the capitol it would take to move up using next

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Speaker 5: to your stuff, like you you're gonna start depleting again

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Speaker 5: the top. It's a little bit of your chasing your

513
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Speaker 5: tail after that. To me, it's I'd much rather either

514
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Speaker 5: stand in and pick or move back and try to

515
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Speaker 5: pick up something else. To me, like it really doesn't

516
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Speaker 5: matter who it is, Trading up is not something I

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Speaker 5: would want to do.

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Speaker 2: So we're a team now of like we're interested if

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Speaker 2: we don't have our guy below the hatches and go

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Speaker 2: and die for the bottom, right yep? Okay man, Yeah

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Speaker 2: that's tough. Yeah, that's tough. You know, that's tough because

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Speaker 2: to me, I just think there's so much I think

523
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknown there, you know, and then

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Speaker 2: if you're not willing, like you say, you seem like

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Speaker 2: we're I don't know, kind of willing. Oh we won't

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Speaker 2: take Frasier might be a reach. I don't look at

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Speaker 2: it really that way myself.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's just like, yeah, this is on my they

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Speaker 4: may not view it that way.

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Speaker 5: And if they look if they evaluated Zach Frasier's being

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Speaker 5: somebody that they felt comfortable with taking at thirty, yeah,

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Speaker 5: like I'm gonna assume they've got him more right than

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Speaker 5: I do, because they've got a track record of having

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Speaker 2: And you're right, No, you're right. And I just like

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Speaker 2: I said, I know he doesn't get to you at

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Speaker 2: fifty six. I know that for a fact. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: says say, your team is definitely picking one of either

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson or Jonathan Brooks in the second round. Which

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Speaker 2: one do you want and why?

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Speaker 4: Nick?

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Speaker 2: I'll go to you first on that one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So on my board, I'm going to stick to it.

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Speaker 6: I would take Peyton Wilson just based on what he

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Speaker 6: brings to the table like this. I think he the

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Speaker 6: medical concerns are there, yes, and from what we've heard,

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Speaker 6: it's not you know, there's not anything that makes you

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Speaker 6: feel great about where he is medically. But you can

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Speaker 6: look at the past two seasons, him staying healthy these

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Speaker 6: last two seasons for the wolf Pack, what he was

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Speaker 6: able to do on the field, what he was able

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Speaker 6: to test at the combine. You see all that athleticism,

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Speaker 6: what he can do. I want him in that second level,

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Speaker 6: flying around the field. I think you could still get

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Speaker 6: a really good running back in the third round that

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Speaker 6: you can throw in into the RB one conversation next year.

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Speaker 6: Whereas if you're looking at the linebacker position after Drian Cooper,

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Speaker 6: Peyton Wilson, there's a little bit of a drop off there,

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Speaker 6: in my opinion, after Junior Colson as well, there's a

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Speaker 6: little bit of a drop off there, and you'd have

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Speaker 6: to be comfortable taking a guy there in the third

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Speaker 6: round or on Day three that you feel like a compete.

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Speaker 6: I feel like Peyton Wilson would be more of an

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Speaker 6: immediate contributor in that sense, but I think you can

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Speaker 6: get a running back there in the third round as well.

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Speaker 6: It'd be tough for me to pass on Jonathan Brooks.

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Speaker 6: So I love Jay Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Aisha Oh, I was like, I was looking for Bobby.

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Speaker 7: I want to bounce off Bobby. Bobby, what'd you got?

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Speaker 13: Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know it, Brooks.

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Speaker 5: And it's nothing to do with Texas. It's got everything

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Speaker 5: to do with it. It's no, no, no, it has

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Speaker 5: nothing to it has nothing to do with the Texas stuff.

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Speaker 5: It has everything to do with Uh. You know, we

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Speaker 5: we have Dame Brugler on here, Dame Brugler from straight

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Speaker 5: from his draft guy talking about you're talking about double

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Speaker 5: digit surgery since senior year of high school. And it's

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Speaker 5: not just well, it's this one knig and probably no,

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Speaker 5: it's both knees, it's a shoulder, it's this, it's that,

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Speaker 5: it's he's already twenty four years old.

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Speaker 4: He's a really good player.

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Speaker 5: To me, again, we're talking about the the margins are

662
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 5: so thin in terms of making sure your depth is

663
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: set for this next year and what you have moving forward.

664
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 5: We saw just what an unexpected injury and to Marvin

665
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 5: Overshown did last year at linebacker for the Cowboys, and

666
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: there's a little bit.

667
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: Of an expectation.

668
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: I would think with Peyton Wilson, like he's going to

669
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: get hurt at some point, and even if he stayed

670
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 5: healthy for two years, something will happen at some point,

671
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 5: and I just I don't know that they can have

672
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 5: their depth challenged on that. With Brooks, there's nothing long

673
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 5: term about Brooks's health. Everything you hear is that he

674
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: is salt of the earth, high character, high football character

675
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: kind of guy. And to me, he's the best running

676
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 5: back in the draft. So to me, it's not very

677
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: difficult because I think as you're trying to minimize risk

678
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: and you know, build the best possible team. Again, to me,

679
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: Brooks is higher on my stack to begin with, and

680
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: then the risk is so much less with Brooks compared

681
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: to Wilson.

682
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean for me, as far as Brooks goes, Yeah,

683
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 9: he's the safer pig. Yeah, sure, he's a safer pick

684
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 9: as far as you know. You talk about the injury

685
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 9: history and all that stuff.

686
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 7: But I struggle.

687
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 9: But I'm telling I'm I I can't wait to be

688
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 9: able to hear some of these conversations in these war

689
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 9: rooms after saw said and done with the conversations of

690
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 9: Peyton Wilson. And I think for this team in particular,

691
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 9: you need a mic like you need a mic, even

692
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 9: if it's of the future. And this is to me

693
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 9: the best mic in this draft, maybe one of the

694
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 9: best mics we've seen in a minute. And how he communicates,

695
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 9: how he processes, and I think Nick brings up a

696
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 9: good point of what he showed at the Senior Bowl.

697
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 9: What he's been this last couple of years, I can't imagine.

698
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 9: I wonder has anybody asked him what he puts into

699
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 9: his body, how much work he's put into his body

700
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 9: to even be able to stay healthy last couple of years.

701
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, Peyton Wilson is a star, I think,

702
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 9: and so it is hard in that regard. But I

703
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 9: think Jonathan Brooks is a safe pick as we as

704
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 9: we sit here right now in chefty.

705
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 7: Post that Brooks is connected to the team. You know,

706
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 7: we know that right now.

707
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: Watch the draft show, right, I'm standing at that table

708
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: with those dice in my hand, Nick, I'm standing there. Yeah,

709
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

710
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson.

711
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 7: Yes, it's a serious to me. It's hard.

712
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm standing there and I'm looking at you guys,

713
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: putting your chips where they need to be because we're

714
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: about that, We're about to flip these dice.

715
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: I wut a tier.

716
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 6: I will be shutting a tier while those dice are

717
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 6: flying because I love Jay Brooks.

718
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm with you.

719
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 7: Who do you have ahead of fame Wilson.

720
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: No, I'm said Brooks. I have Brooks as as.

721
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: Great asby Bobby's betting on me, snake.

722
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: Here's the thing I think, I think again, when you

723
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: watch that, they've made certain Now, look, they've got a

724
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: long history of taking red flag players, medically red flagged

725
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: players in the second round. They've got a long history

726
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 5: of taking medical flagged linebackers Bruce Carter, Shanlee, Jaylen Smith,

727
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 5: DeMont Clark, most recently Layton vander sh like they've they've

728
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 5: done it consistently, so they're not afraid to do it.

729
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: But I do think that, like we got to put

730
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: into the context.

731
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: Here as well, that they said we need more reliability,

732
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 5: So we are willing to walk away from Hall of

733
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: Fame left tackle and put ourselves in a position to

734
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 5: where we're kind of in need walking into the draft.

735
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: So if they were that concerned about reliability on that

736
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: front and affordability, I don't know why they would want

737
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 5: to put themselves in that position at linebacker again after

738
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: they've clearly made some stuff like hey, we need we

739
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: need more availability. We need to know who's going to

740
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 5: be consistently available, and that's just never been Peyton Wilson

741
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: in his entire college career. But he's really good. He's

742
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 5: a fun player. If you told me he'll be healthy

743
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 5: for ten years, Brian, I'll sure go.

744
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: Run it up there.

745
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm channeling my I'm channeling it. Yes, And there's some

746
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: fate here with his son in the draft. There's some

747
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: there's some Yeah, I'm feeling it.

748
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 9: Do you think some of that confidence though, comes from

749
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 9: like I wouldn't, I don't want to, I don't want to.

750
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 7: Say the wrong thing, but to your welcome to the draft.

751
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 9: But Bobby brings up the fact that they might be

752
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 9: more hesitant because of the recent history. And then also too,

753
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 9: you know, they've they've they've done, they've seen what it's

754
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 9: like to get a second round player, have do their surgery,

755
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 9: do all their medical and all this stuff, and then

756
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 9: and then they're not on this team or they're injured often.

757
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 9: So I wonder though, if there is some I mean

758
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 9: some arrogance there about what they're capable of doing in

759
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 9: this building from them, especially from a medical standpoint, and

760
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 9: their team doctors being as good as they are and

761
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 9: all that stuff.

762
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it's arrogance.

763
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 14: I don't.

764
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, no, I know, I know.

765
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's uh where they're comfortable

766
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: taking calculated risk, and they typically have said like will

767
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 5: bank on talent versus the risk, like if we're there

768
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 5: in the second round. A lot of times in the

769
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: first round they're banking on projections raw talent, whatever else.

770
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: But I mean, there haven't been like a whole lot

771
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: of you know, medical concern or you know, character flag

772
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 5: players that they've taken in the first round. They generally

773
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: are are more just making evaluation, picking the player and

774
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: going with it. They're vander Esh was obviously a first

775
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: round pick, and they requires there. But I think that

776
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 5: what they've shown is they believe that the second round

777
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: in is area where they're willing to roll the dice

778
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: and take some risks on the opportunity to potentially have

779
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: two players that they think are first round worthy, like okay, cool,

780
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: we'll do that in the second round.

781
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: We'll take that risk.

782
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 8: There.

783
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 5: They're less willing to make the risk when there's probably

784
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: a lot of other first round players around their pick

785
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: and so let's go something a little safer, Whereas in

786
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 5: the second round it may be, well, that's the last

787
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: guy who's a first round type of talent, and nobody

788
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 5: wants touching because the medicals, we'll chance it, we're gonna

789
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: roll the dice on. I don't think it's necessarily that

790
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 5: they think they're more equipped than everybody else to handle it.

791
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Good conversations, all right, Josh Weaver wants to know, and Nick,

792
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: I'll start with you on this one. It's good we're

793
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: speaking of linebackers. Can you give them some Can you

794
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: give them some Day three linebackers Day three Day three

795
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: significant playing time this year that are drafted by the.

796
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: Cowboys significant playing time.

797
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 6: I'm gonna start with that part of the question first,

798
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: just because you would have to, you would have to

799
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 6: figure out how they get around to Marvey and over

800
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 6: shown Damon Clark and Bark Kendricks. Yeah, but let's let's

801
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 6: let's let's bite for a second some Day three guys

802
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 6: that they have been interested in throughout the process. You

803
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 6: can look at Jordan McGee out of Temple. You can

804
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 6: look at John Trey Hunter out of Georgia State. You

805
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 6: could look at Curtis Jacobs out of Penn State, and

806
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 6: Nathaniel Watson out Mississippi State. I know there's are four names,

807
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: really quick. Let me dive into those each individually really quick.

808
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 6: Jordan McGee more of a narrow guy that you could

809
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 6: you would like to see play in space. He's good

810
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 6: in coverage, but might need to bulk up a bit.

811
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: Even though he is about two twenty five to twenty seven.

812
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 6: He could add probably ten fifteen pounds to be able

813
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 6: to be a run stopper if he wanted to, or

814
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 6: you could stay at that weight in kind of Roaman

815
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: coverage there on on third down. John Trey Hunter actually

816
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 6: very much of the same kind of skill set. I

817
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: like McGhee a little bit better than Hunter. Nathaniel Watson.

818
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 6: That's the guy who's gonna, you know, come downhill and

819
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 6: then be able to make those tackles in the run game.

820
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 6: He almost did that exclusively for the Bulldogs last year.

821
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 6: He was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year last year.

822
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: Curtis Jacobs.

823
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 6: I think this is one of the more fun Day

824
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 6: three backer options just because he's versatile. He can do

825
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 6: both of these things. I think he's still got a

826
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 6: ton of upside that you can add to his game.

827
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 6: This is a guy that I think a couple of

828
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 6: years from now, if you have to move on from

829
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 6: Kendricks after this season, I think this is a guy

830
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 6: who could be ready to step in on Day two.

831
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 6: A couple of other names I want to throw out there,

832
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 6: ty Reese Knight out of UTEP.

833
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: I really love his athletics.

834
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: That's what I was hoping you would mention.

835
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 6: Man his athleticism is awesome and to be able to

836
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 6: bring a minor over from lpass so that'd be super

837
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 6: cool to have once again in the building. And then

838
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: a last name, I'll throw out that he was really

839
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 6: productive for Washington last year and was huge in their

840
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 6: playoff run at Afuano Lafochio. I think he's he's a

841
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 6: guy that can be more well rounded as well. Ceiling

842
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 6: probably not as high as Curtis Jacobs is, but I

843
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 6: still like his upside.

844
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I wanted to comment on Curtis Jacobs. We

845
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 9: got to we had the pleasure of meeting him at

846
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 9: the Shrine Bowl. But I want to say, though you're

847
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 9: talking about like he hasn't really had a lot of

848
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 9: injury issues or whatever, but this this, this is this

849
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 9: is old man a little bit like he's he's he's

850
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 9: played a lot of football, which is a good thing.

851
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 9: It's it's a good thing. But I also understand that

852
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 9: there's tread on those tires. As far as how much

853
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 9: he's played in his gleat career was like fifth year,

854
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 9: six year. I think he played five six years if

855
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 9: I'm not mistaken from what he told us. But I

856
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 9: think I agree with Nick that I do think that

857
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 9: he would be a cool Day one guy to be

858
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 9: able to Day three guy to pick up and bring

859
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 9: in here that can really develop into someone that can

860
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 9: really be the quarterback right up there on a second level.

861
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 9: But then also too, he does come with some experience

862
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 9: because he's played so much football.

863
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: Right right, hey, forty five games for a four year guy.

864
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: Forty five games good insight right there.

865
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I do like the name John Trey Hunter.

866
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: I think that that's a good one. I think that

867
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 5: that's somebody who can you know, he can play inside

868
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 5: or outside. He's more well built, I think than a

869
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: lot of the linebackers that we've seen this one. He's

870
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 5: a break I think that when you watch the tape

871
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: against LSU, like you see him against big competition, you

872
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 5: see him making a difference, and those are the kind

873
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 5: of games that you really need to zero in on

874
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 5: and feel like you're you're getting NFL level competition or

875
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: high level competition prepared for the NFL. But the other

876
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: elementared here is Steel Chambers at Ohio State, who's a

877
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: converted running back, and I think he's somebody who consistently

878
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: feels like we've talked about you know, with linebackers here

879
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: over the last couple of years that you know, okay,

880
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 5: what are their abilities to you know, read and react?

881
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: How good are their instincts things like that. That that

882
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 5: is the one area where he's really good. And I

883
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: don't know if that comes from being a converted running back,

884
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: but I mean he really does seem to see it

885
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 5: quickly and attack it and plays discipely.

886
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: The biggest problem with him is he's light. He's like

887
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: two twenty five.

888
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: I deal with a lot of these guys in Day

889
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: three like that, aren't we. Yeah, some lighter type players.

890
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's light. He's he's gonna and it shows up.

891
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: There are times he has struggle getting off of blocks.

892
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: He doesn't play with a lot of power. But I think,

893
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: you know, if you get him here and you feel like, hey,

894
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 5: we can fill out that frame a little bit, I

895
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 5: think the instincts are fantastic. It's gonna be really hard,

896
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 5: I think, to find anybody who can come in and

897
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 5: start for you at linebacker this year on Day three.

898
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: But I do think that Stell Chambers is somebody that

899
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 5: interests me as a project.

900
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 9: It's crazy that you bring him up because I've talked

901
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 9: about him on Girls Talk, Boys Talk a couple.

902
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: Times, and.

903
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 9: I think to your point, with the instincts and being

904
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 9: able to I if still doesn't it's still Chambers doesn't

905
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 9: do anything. He to me, because he is a little lighter,

906
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 9: he can be your special team's ace. I think he's

907
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 9: a guy that can come onto your team, your special teams,

908
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 9: and make a difference immediately as well because of the instincts,

909
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 9: because of the way he's been able to He's able

910
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 9: to read and react, and I do think he can

911
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 9: develop and maybe put on a little bit more sized,

912
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 9: a little bit more weight because he is a little

913
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 9: lighting as sometimes. But I do think he does show

914
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 9: some of that decisiveness that you are looking for from

915
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 9: a linebacker.

916
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 7: But I personally think if a team gets a hold

917
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 7: of him, he.

918
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 9: Can really really really make your special teams better immediately

919
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 9: with how he plays.

920
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: If I can mention, I don't know if you guys

921
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: have seen this guy. I mean, there's a lot of

922
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: linebackers that look at real quick and but JD. Bertrand

923
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame. Okay, I'm just going to say a

924
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: couple of things about him. He's six tenties two thirty five.

925
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: He is one of the quickest readers of scheme that

926
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: I've seen. Of these linebackers, There's been some good ones,

927
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: but I think this guy his ability to process information

928
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: quickly and react to the play. He's got a quick

929
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: trigger to way he plays. He's downhill, he's a good tackler,

930
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: he can fill, he plays in space. The instincts. This

931
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: might be a Day three guy that I don't know

932
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: if the Cowboys particularly like him, but I know watching

933
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: him play pre snap, letting his teammates know what's about

934
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: to happen the fundamentals. Maybe he doesn't have the greatest

935
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: athletic ability and the lack of length might hurt him

936
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: some in the NFL, but man, he made it work

937
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: for this Irish defense and the way he played. So

938
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: keep an eye on a guy J D. Bertrand from

939
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: a Notre Dame.

940
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: I haven't seen him yet, but looking at his combin

941
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 5: photo here, he's got a first round grade of jaw line.

942
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: He looks like a superhero.

943
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: He's a square built guy for sure. Okay, our final

944
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: question for you guys on Twitter on the twenty would

945
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: any of you guys be surprised if Johnny Newton, the

946
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: defensive tackle from Illinois, would be the pick at twenty

947
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: four that's coming from Raoul.

948
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would surprise me. It would be fun.

949
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong, but yeah, it would surprise me

950
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 6: a It's kind of the same reason we talked about

951
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 6: why Byron Murphy would be a little bit of a surprise.

952
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 6: I feel like Johnny Newton would be even more of

953
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 6: a surprise, only because you know, he was a guy

954
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 6: that they really haven't done a ton of homework on

955
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 6: over the course of the draft process, didn't have a

956
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 6: formal with him at the combine, didn't bring him in

957
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 6: for a thirty. So I think to pull the trigger

958
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 6: on him at twenty four would be would be definitely

959
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 6: it would definitely be interesting. I kind of I think

960
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 6: I have him going twenty seven in my mad twenty

961
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 6: six to the Buccaneers, so he could be right in

962
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 6: that range. But man, he is fun. He'd be violent

963
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 6: pass rusher. He's a guy that I think he can

964
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 6: line up inside outside. He moves like he's two, but

965
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 6: he's not. He's He's fun.

966
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 9: Be funny because I literally, as soon as you said

967
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 9: the Bucks, I pictured him in a Bucks Jersey and

968
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 9: it looks right.

969
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, him going back home to Florida, that'd be fun.

970
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 7: No, it looks right in my mind. Uh yeah, I agree.

971
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 9: I guess I would be surprised, But correct me if

972
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 9: I'm wrong. Did we have him from any type of

973
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 9: Did the Cowboys have a thirty visit with what was

974
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 9: the offensive lineman that they were going back and forth

975
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 9: with Mazia about run?

976
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 7: Did they have a thirty visit with him?

977
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: I'd have to look that up real quick here.

978
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 9: I don't believe that. I don't believe if I'm remembering correctly.

979
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 9: We didn't start. I think we didn't think about him

980
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 9: until the week of right like we had talked about it.

981
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 7: We had talked about him as a player, but they

982
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 7: hadn't really.

983
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: All of a sudden he's showing up.

984
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 9: He wouldn't publicly like did he have a thirty visit?

985
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 4: I know that I don't remember. I know they met

986
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: with him at the combine and stuff, But.

987
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 7: That's just what came to my mind.

988
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 14: Yeah.

989
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: The bigger thing with that is just.

990
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: The on bergeron like that that filled something that they needed.

991
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 5: And this year it feels like you've got even more

992
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 5: challenging depth issues, and that's one area where it's like, well,

993
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: your starter's in place, like you've got a three technique.

994
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: So I would be surprised if it was any three

995
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 5: technique with that first. But if it was Byron Murphy,

996
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 5: if it was Johnny Newton, I would be really surprised

997
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: if they picked a three technique defensive tackle in the

998
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: first two days.

999
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well, appreciate all the questions there on Twitter

1000
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: on the twenty. Thanks to you guys out there for

1001
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Speaker 2: making the time for that. Okay, when we come back,

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Speaker 2: it'll be the final segment of the day for the

1003
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1004
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Speaker 2: segment of the day, Bobby, I want to ask you

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Speaker 2: this question. Your second round graded player who you wouldn't

1076
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Speaker 2: be surprised ends up getting taken in the first or

1077
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Speaker 2: maybe higher. If you look at your board, who's the

1078
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Speaker 2: one second round player?

1079
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: I just know somebody I have great in the third

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Speaker 4: round will go second overall. So there's that. So I'm

1081
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Speaker 4: gonna adjust a little bit.

1082
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Speaker 2: Do you hate does is it there? Does he hate

1083
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Speaker 2: the LSU quarterback that much?

1084
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Speaker 3: Shrike May?

1085
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Speaker 4: I think?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, Daniels, Yeah, okay, yeah.

1088
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: It's yeah, poor Man's Lamar Jackson. I'll pass.

1089
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Speaker 8: No.

1090
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know the guy that you know studied, We talked,

1092
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Speaker 3: we talked about it.

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1094
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Brooks over the really good linebacker.

1095
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: All right, all right, well look I look at it.

1096
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Second round guy.

1097
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Eddrian Cooper. I think Edrin Cooper is a guy

1098
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 5: who very easily could end up back into the first round.

1099
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: And obviously I mean like we've.

1100
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Maybe even higher than the back of the second round or.

1101
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: Or sorry, back into the first round.

1102
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 5: Like he's he's the guy that I have in the

1103
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: second that I think could because I think there's teams

1104
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 5: that probably have him as the top linebacker and are

1105
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 5: willing to say, hey, if we have a need here,

1106
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: we're need to say if you look at like the

1107
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 5: when we get to the conference championship games. One of

1108
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: the things that's funny because we're sitting here talking about

1109
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: potentially these could be the Cowboys first two picks. If

1110
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 5: you look at the center position and you look at

1111
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 5: the linebackers on the four teams that finished in the

1112
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 5: conference finals this year, it's they they all were really,

1113
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 5: really good.

1114
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: And they've all invested there.

1115
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: San Francisco, Kansas City, Baltimore, Detroit, they've all invested in

1116
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 5: those positions. They've all had quality players there. And I

1117
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 5: think that Cooper is a guy who it became a

1118
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: little bit like linebacker was it felt like was the

1119
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 5: running back of defense for a little bit in terms

1120
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: of how people were valuing it. It feels like people

1121
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: are kind of coming back around and saying, no, there's

1122
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 5: some value here. You can't just throw anybody out there.

1123
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 5: And so I think Cooper because of need, you know,

1124
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 5: lack of talent at the position at the top end,

1125
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: I think Cooper could get you know, somebody could grab

1126
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 5: him back into the first.

1127
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 9: For me, you know, Nick talks about the run on

1128
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 9: cornerback happening. I look at all these cornerbacks out side

1129
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 9: of outside of Keon Mitchell, and I look at Terry

1130
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 9: and Arnold and I like the player, but there are

1131
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 9: some things I didn't like Wiggins. You talk about the side,

1132
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 9: I think that Cooper Degene from Iowa could.

1133
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: Definitely be someone that someone takes in the first round.

1134
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 9: This guy, when I watched him, and again I think

1135
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 9: key On Mitchell was fantastic. I really don't think he's

1136
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 9: that far away from being that complete corner that can

1137
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 9: do it all.

1138
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 7: He can play in zone, he can play in man.

1139
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 9: He's disciplined, he has good size, he's a strong tackler,

1140
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 9: multi sport athlete. The guy's done it all, very productive

1141
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 9: in his time in Iowa. We know how the rest

1142
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 9: of the league view some of these Iowa players, but

1143
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 9: this guy is just a dog and he's he's just

1144
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 9: he's consistent, and we talk about we talk about Jackson,

1145
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 9: Parish Bowers, Johnson and just the consistency. I feel like

1146
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 9: Cooper Degene has kind of suffered a little bit from

1147
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 9: that is that he's so consistent that you almost forget

1148
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 9: about him. And I'm not gonna let people forget about him.

1149
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 9: I think the rest of the I think there are

1150
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 9: people that might be okay with taking him in the

1151
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 9: first round even over like a Wiggins, just because of

1152
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 9: the size and some of those things. So that's just me,

1153
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 9: that's how I feel. Because if there's a run, it's

1154
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 9: gonna have to be more than two guys. You can't

1155
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 9: have like three guys. It can't just be two guys

1156
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 9: in that first round.

1157
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 6: So I'm very interested to see if whoever takes Cooper

1158
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 6: Degini throws him in special team situations because he was so.

1159
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 7: Funny and then sprinkling that too.

1160
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean this is this is an exciting, multifaceted player,

1161
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 9: and I think teams value that. But you also get

1162
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 9: a corner that you know is gonna come in right away,

1163
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 9: and you talk about the confidence, you talk about how

1164
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 9: intelligent he is. I think he could come in and

1165
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 9: hold it down.

1166
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: So that's my guy, Yeah, my safety one.

1167
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 9: That's that's my safety you So, Patty, I think I think,

1168
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 9: I think I think people might look at Tirian Arnold

1169
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 9: as a safety.

1170
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: I want to get into that.

1171
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 9: No, I'm not gonna get into it like that because

1172
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 9: we've talked about it before. I just think the length

1173
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 9: and some of the stuff he does, I think that

1174
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 9: some people might look at him as a safety guy.

1175
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: Detroit went from being what a kind of a corner

1176
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: or some branch branch boy. He played well for them,

1177
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: played in the slot too, and stuff like that. Who

1178
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: do you got, man?

1179
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 5: What you got?

1180
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 6: You got the second So I only have nineteen first

1181
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 6: round grades. So there's a lot, honestly that I that

1182
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 6: will be picked in the second round obviously. So I'm

1183
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 6: gonna kind of the outside of the box here a

1184
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 6: little bit, and not even too far outside the box.

1185
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 6: Ladd McConkey out of Georgia, Yeah, I know, that's it's

1186
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 6: a it's a name that's been very hot.

1187
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: I guess I'll get to my next question.

1188
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, for late in the first round.

1189
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 6: Teams like him. Teams really like when he shuts to

1190
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 6: the table. As far as lining up inside, lining up outside.

1191
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 6: You see his athleticism. All of the concerns that I

1192
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 6: think he had coming into the draft process from an

1193
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 6: athletic perspective, he has answered so for teams at least,

1194
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 6: and I think he's a guy that'll probably end up

1195
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 6: late first round potentially. And then Darius Robinson out of

1196
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 6: Missouri Edge, he's just picking up so much steam to

1197
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 6: be a late first round pick. And I had heard

1198
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 6: that in Mobile. That was the first time I had

1199
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 6: heard that. Hey, Derys Trump is it's going to be

1200
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 6: a first round pick. And I'm still standing on that.

1201
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 6: I think I'm going to stick to who told me that,

1202
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 6: So give me those two guys.

1203
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 7: I believe that.

1204
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1205
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 7: What about the test? What happened with him?

1206
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 8: Was it?

1207
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 3: Was it the Darius Robinson?

1208
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 9: But yeah, I felt like I felt like people stopped

1209
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 9: talking up the media folks.

1210
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, us folks. I think we stopped talking.

1211
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 9: About him after the combine because it wasn't super special,

1212
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, Like he didn't stand out

1213
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 9: like that, But when you watch the tape, he's just

1214
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 9: this freaking book.

1215
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're a two hundred and eighty pound edge,

1216
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 6: I don't think a combine is necessarily your your your

1217
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: best friend necessarily from like a testing perspective. But as

1218
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 6: far as him being able to line up anywhere from

1219
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 6: three tech outside to seven, I think I think there's

1220
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 6: a lot of things he can bring to a defensive line.

1221
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 3: He's versatile.

1222
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 6: That's that's where that's where you get the value in

1223
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: Darius Robinson's versatility.

1224
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: Bobby is Hicks got a shot from Washington state.

1225
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't.

1226
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't think so, but I mean it's definitely possible,

1227
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 5: I guess. I mean, Hicks I think is going to

1228
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 5: be the first safety for a lot of teams. So

1229
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: I mean, if somebody wants to, you know, address that

1230
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 5: position back into the first I don't don't think it's

1231
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 5: like a terrible reach either. Like I really like Jadan Hicks.

1232
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: I just I don't know that the demand is going

1233
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 5: to be there. I don't know how many people are

1234
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 5: going to have Nuban over him. And I actually think

1235
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 5: the trendy thing that's that's one of the areas where

1236
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: I think we, you know, in the media talking about it,

1237
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 5: we've been behind the NFL.

1238
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 4: I think most of the NFL has Hicks above Nuban.

1239
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so that's one where, like I think the draft,

1240
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 5: Twitter social media sphere has not been in lockstep with

1241
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 5: them on that. So I think there's a good chance

1242
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 5: Hicks goes before Nuban. I just don't know if it's

1243
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 5: back into the first Yeah.

1244
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 9: I mean I think a lot of that has to

1245
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 9: do with affected and I think Nuben's fantastic and he

1246
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 9: can play some free safety, some strong safety, but it's

1247
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 9: also too with Jayden Hicks, And again it's not that

1248
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 9: Nuban doesn't do it.

1249
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 7: But it's just how he feels in the run game too, and.

1250
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 9: With just how many how many teams are doing things

1251
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 9: trying to get guys out in space and stuff, having

1252
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 9: a safety that can.

1253
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 7: Cover ground like that. But I also like how you

1254
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 7: operated in dime.

1255
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 9: I was surprised by just how comfortable he is, uh

1256
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 9: covering all that ground and and and in carrying defenders.

1257
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 7: So yeah, with Jayden Hicks's I agree with you.

1258
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 9: It's it's kind of like how we look at Adrian

1259
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 9: Cooper and Peyton Wilson is like one A, one B

1260
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 9: in that situation.

1261
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: To me as well, any chance that Coraley gets picked

1262
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: in the first round, I.

1263
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: Don't I don't think so. I would love that, but

1264
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1265
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 7: I just thought a fire.

1266
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 6: I haven't heard a lot of smoke around around that.

1267
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 6: I think when you're talking about those receivers who could

1268
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 6: go first round, it's kind of limited to Xavier Worthy,

1269
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: Lad McConkey out of Night Mitchell. Yeah, probably those three guys,

1270
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 6: And I think if you go beyond that, then you're

1271
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 6: still talking Keyon Coleman and then maybe you start talking

1272
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 6: about Coraley and Legett, But I think those are comfortably

1273
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 6: second round guys.

1274
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 9: I don't think nobody's gonna get googly at and take

1275
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 9: Exavier Worthy just because he's super Definitely.

1276
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 6: Could oh yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like they would

1277
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 6: be jumping on a guy before a guy.

1278
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: Like me all right in the h in the last

1279
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: five minutes we have here. This is kind of been

1280
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: a touchy subject for a lot of folks, But I'll

1281
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: ask this question.

1282
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: Let's put some people off.

1283
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 8: Brian.

1284
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you guys stand on all these potential

1285
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: medicals that we're dealing with. We got all these medical

1286
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: things that have come up about these players since the combine.

1287
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: We've you know, whether it's the center, the linebacker, the

1288
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: running back. Where where are you guys? Are you numb

1289
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: by it? Are you do?

1290
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 10: You?

1291
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: Are you saying? Listen? I trust my team is going

1292
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: to do the right thing, you know if they take

1293
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: my guy obviously cleared. I mean, I just feel like

1294
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good players. I think there's probably more.

1295
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: There's players on our board that we haven't even talked

1296
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: about that have medical things that that probably that all

1297
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're gonna be like, Okay, Nick, who's

1298
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: your who's your best player? And then all of sid

1299
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: it's three guys that you're like, I don't understand why

1300
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: they're falling. Yeah, how how are you guys taking all

1301
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: this medical information in now? And how is it affecting

1302
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: how you think about your board in your players.

1303
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 6: I'm trying to keep it very circumstantial and put each

1304
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 6: guy in kind of a vacuum of what they're dealing with,

1305
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 6: But you do have to kind of factor in a

1306
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 6: guy like Graham Barton, who's deal. He's been dealing with

1307
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 6: the torn laborum throughout the draft process, and that's something

1308
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 6: you just we just haven't talked about because we've been

1309
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 6: talking about Jackson powers, Johnson and his medicals. We've been

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Speaker 6: talking about Peyton Wilson or Jonathan Brooks, et cetera, et

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00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 6: cetera exactly. So there's a lot of guys I think,

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00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 6: is is there a little bit of numbness? I think

1313
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 6: there is maybe four for media scouts, But you can

1314
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 6: you can best believe that if there's a pick made

1315
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 6: by any of these thirty two teams, they're doing a

1316
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 6: lot of research as to what they are getting medically

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00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 6: from the from that player, I think, uh, I think

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 6: there definitely will be two or three guys we look

1319
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 6: at around like pick thirty, We're like, why are these

1320
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 6: guys falling? So yeah, which could help the Cowboys very well.

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Speaker 4: Good.

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Speaker 2: So well, sure, Bobby, how do you feeling about all

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00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: the medical information you're starting to get?

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00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the stuff that I can that that's

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00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: just out there publicly on display for everybody to see.

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00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 5: You know, a lot too was medically retired for his neck.

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00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 5: You know, Peyton Wilson has had a bunch of surgeries

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 5: since high school. Like those sorts of things there that

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00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 5: I can see and I can discern, It's like that's

1330
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 5: right there on the table for me. I don't know

1331
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 5: how comfortable I feel going after that. So so those

1332
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 5: are those ones. The other ones that are murkier, you know,

1333
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: Jackson Powers Johnson, where you hear rumblings of stuff and

1334
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 5: hear things like that. I don't know how to feel

1335
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 5: about it. If the team says we're willing to take them,

1336
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna trust that it is because I have no clue.

1337
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: But like, there's nothing that I can know about those

1338
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 5: medicals and know if they're okay or not. I didn't know,

1339
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 5: Like you hear rumblings about, oh, there may be something

1340
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 5: Layton vander Ash's neck when he's coming out of school,

1341
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 5: but like you didn't know how it was going to

1342
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 5: play out because there wasn't anything really on the record

1343
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 5: about it or anything that was out in public about it.

1344
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 5: And ultimately that one didn't go the way they wanted.

1345
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 5: You talked about the Jeremiah Trotter one where he ended

1346
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 5: up playing ten years, and so to me, I'm I'm

1347
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 5: kind of neutral when I hear something about Jackson Powers

1348
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 5: Johnson or Jonathan Brooks or one of these guys where Okay,

1349
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 5: I can't know specifics about it. If the team says

1350
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 5: they're comfortable that, I'm going to be comfortable with it.

1351
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 5: But the ones where it's like it's publicly out there,

1352
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: I already know a medical staff, retired law too. I

1353
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 5: already know there's been a million surgeris to Wilson all

1354
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 5: over his body, not in just one particular part. Those

1355
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 5: are the ones where I go, I don't think I'm

1356
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 5: very comfortable taking those guys.

1357
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 14: Wow.

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Speaker 9: I mean, and when you talk about Center, I know

1359
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 9: how Center crazy you are. Yeah, Brian, your top three

1360
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 9: centers all have all dealt with injuries at this point,

1361
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 9: because Fraser dealt with the knee as well, right, So.

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00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 7: It's it's it's I think it also it.

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00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 9: Depends, Like like Nick said, he doesn't he tries to

1364
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 9: put them in a vacuum and kind of sort out, Okay,

1365
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 9: what is their position, what do they do, how much

1366
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 9: depth do you need there, whatever the case may be.

1367
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 9: I think that for me is what plays into it.

1368
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 9: Because even when we were talking about Brooks earlier, I mean, yeah,

1369
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 9: like I don't like the fact that he's had an

1370
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 9: ACL but he can recover from that.

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 9: If this was like five six years ago, maybe I

1373
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 9: would be more concerned because the committee aspect was not

1374
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 9: what people were doing. Like that you had like a

1375
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 9: guy that ran the ball a whole bunch and couple

1376
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 9: maybe a couple of gentlemen just fill in here and

1377
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 9: there with short yardst situations.

1378
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 7: That's not what football is right now.

1379
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 9: These running backs are being asked to do more wide

1380
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 9: receiver things as well, and they're lining up outside and stuff.

1381
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 9: It's not This game isn't as punishing to me from

1382
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 9: the running back position.

1383
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 7: So I might be a little bit more open.

1384
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 9: So I think it also just depends on the position

1385
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 9: what you and also to the specific depth on this

1386
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 9: team and what you need from that player right away.

1387
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 9: But these are the top three centers are all coming

1388
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 9: off injuries or they have issues.

1389
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Speaker 2: That's all the time we have today. Thanks my scout buddies,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Aisha Morrison, Thank you guys

1391
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Speaker 2: out there for taking us in today. Another We got

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Speaker 2: draft shows all week, yes, sir, so we got Yeah,

1393
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Speaker 2: we got a draft show tomorrow, same time, eleven am Central.

1394
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Speaker 2: We will chop this up a little bit more as

1395
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: we get closer to the draft on Thursday night, which

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Speaker 2: we will have coverage on not only Dallas Cowboys dot Com,

1397
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: but also the on one, O, five three of the

1398
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Speaker 2: fan as well. So we're working together as a team here.

1399
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Speaker 2: So we've got you completely covered until tomorrow. Keep scouting,

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Speaker 2: keep evalue, waiting, and we'll take we'll check you guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Take care.

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