WEBVTT - Welcome Home, Joe! 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, happy our listeners. Guess what, it's just your GRLTAIA.

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<v Speaker 1>This week Becca is out. Okay, but don't you worry,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm here to talk about everything from last night's

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<v Speaker 1>episode and even to answer some of you guys is

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<v Speaker 1>juicy questions that you guys have submitted. But also we

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<v Speaker 1>have mister Basketball himself joining me to talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>one on one that just so happened to take place

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<v Speaker 1>in his hometown of Minnesota, and so much more. There

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<v Speaker 1>were some things that happened this week in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I necessarily just I got secondhand embarrassment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just felt so bad for Chriss. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>s that man. I feel like he was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>spiral out of control, and like we kind of all

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<v Speaker 1>saw it coming. I wonder if he saw it coming

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<v Speaker 1>or if he felt it. His demeanor was off, his

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<v Speaker 1>energy was just off, and sure enough, in true Bachelor fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>when people start to spy a lot of control, well

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<v Speaker 1>that means the end is near, unfortunately, and Chris decided

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<v Speaker 1>to take it into his own hands to quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>show up. Like Michelle has asked, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>she necessarily meant it in this way, especially on a

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<v Speaker 1>one on one when he clearly has no business attending.

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<v Speaker 1>But he showed up all right, and she said audios.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at this point I just really loved that.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle was like, look, I need somebody to have my back,

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<v Speaker 1>but lets me speak. I don't need to be spoken for.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I feel extremely empowered when I when I'm speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just need somebody that actually supports that and

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<v Speaker 1>can just have my back with whatever I say and

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<v Speaker 1>allows me to make my own judgments and decisions on

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<v Speaker 1>my own. And with that said, my judgment is your

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<v Speaker 1>judgment day, sir, and you're gonna go home. So ah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he necessarily saw that one coming,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know what he was thinking was going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, why he was going to save the day.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to stop her date with Nate and go

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<v Speaker 1>back home with him. Just you know, a role of

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<v Speaker 1>advice for everybody out there, if you ever decide to

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<v Speaker 1>make your a little sweet way onto the Bachelor bachelorette,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this. Okay. I know it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>really good idea at the time, Just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another way to go about it and it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>it like that, So that was I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>time for Chris asked to say goodbye. Unfortunately, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he really didn't have fun on the Viking date.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the Viking date, Can we talk about that for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. I may have sent myself home on that

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<v Speaker 1>date because truthfully, the thing that they were eating a

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<v Speaker 1>raw fish, I mean brandan bit into that fish, and

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<v Speaker 1>I swear I saw juice guts spitting out, and literally

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney is so funny. It was like you say it crunchy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I could not stop laughing. Rodney kills me. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So this week's episode was really good. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I really loved Nate's went on. One day. Michelle was

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<v Speaker 1>in her element and she fell up at home, but

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<v Speaker 1>also she felt at home and like really really comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like she really grew in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe, which I cannot wait to have him here

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<v Speaker 1>on the episode today. He's coming any minute now and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just deep dive with that with him. But until then,

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<v Speaker 1>we have some fan questions to answer. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>y'all have submitted, shall we? What is the best part

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<v Speaker 1>of co hosting the bachelort. Well, number one, the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>is not on me, so I just got to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like sit back and kind of giggle and laugh

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<v Speaker 1>and really admire like the love and how much you

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<v Speaker 1>watch all of these individuals grow from Afar, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you really see these people like step out

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<v Speaker 1>of their comfort zones and put themselves out there and

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<v Speaker 1>try to do these romantic gestures. And there's just something

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, sweet and endearing about it that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to watch from Afar, but also like watching

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the lead kind of fall in love and

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<v Speaker 1>really seeing that from night one to like the finish,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like the waves of emotions and and and

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<v Speaker 1>just like the people that you filter through. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>like how your gut instinct is always correct and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just been really fun. Also, I mean, come on, Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a freaking ball of a time. We

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<v Speaker 1>cannot stop laughing. In fact, I feel like we need

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show ourselves and just like to just show

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<v Speaker 1>you guys how crazy we are behind the scenes. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy my co host and I really have

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<v Speaker 1>fun doing what I do. Um. Next question, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest difference between your hosting role now versus actually

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<v Speaker 1>being the bachelorette U. So I get asked us a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but for a lot of the obvious reasons, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of touched on that with the last question. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in the vulnerable, I'm not in the volnable position,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know I've done. It's it's an amazing experience,

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<v Speaker 1>but also at the same time, it's extremely draining and

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<v Speaker 1>it can be really tough, but it also could be

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<v Speaker 1>extremely rewarding. So right now, as hosting, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of being on the sidelines, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like watching over what's kind of happening. You don't really

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<v Speaker 1>get to intervene too much and get to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of like what's going on, which I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>find special because we look forward to those conversations with Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of like fills us in. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>everything at times, so it's nice to kind of hear

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<v Speaker 1>her experience from you know, how she's experienced it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say the late night, in the long hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching Michelle do it, like I would like

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<v Speaker 1>look out my window and they were still out there

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<v Speaker 1>at like three am. I'm like, there's no way y'all

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<v Speaker 1>can get me to do that again. Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted just thinking about it. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. But then again, it's like a crazy high

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing it. So yeah, So the biggest difference, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not me in the hot scene and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of like help somebody on their journey

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<v Speaker 1>has been really fun rewarding. M What did you do

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<v Speaker 1>to train for the NY Marathon? Well, it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of difficult because I had made the commitment to do

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<v Speaker 1>the marathon back at the end of May, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I had decided that I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>the marathon at the end of May, and I signed

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<v Speaker 1>up in June, and truthfully, like to two weeks later

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<v Speaker 1>or three weeks later, I was leaving to go film

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle season, so actually two weeks later yea. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was really tough and not ideal my training regiment, just

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't get back into the city until mid September,

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<v Speaker 1>which is actually crazy to me, Like I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the road for that long and truthfully training on a treadmill.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm sure some of you guys know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are runners, but training on a treadmill is not

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<v Speaker 1>nearly the same as running outside and trying to pace

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and figuring out the distance you can go and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did it as much as I possibly could.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's tough being stuck in a hotel and

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<v Speaker 1>having that beer only outlet, and sometimes you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be like in an inside hotel gym. You

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of want to be outside in kind of rome.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of the beauty of running, is

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<v Speaker 1>exploring and kind of having that, I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 1>free spirit, if you will. So it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>difficult until I got here back to New York City

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<v Speaker 1>and I was able to run around the city. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in a completely different light than I normally had,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is like the most exciting thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was I would be on runs and I

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<v Speaker 1>would completely stop and just be in all of like

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<v Speaker 1>the skyline and be like I actually live here, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I made this happen. It's been a dream for me

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. It's been a dream of mine for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and it was just very surreal. And to

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<v Speaker 1>do that with Zach and some of our friends have

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know. It's just been really magical. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was really just doing at least like two short

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<v Speaker 1>runs during the week and then doing a long run

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekend when I could fit it in. Ideally,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to train a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know, if I would have trained a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, I would have gone a better time.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have smoked yell, just kidding. Humble, humble, stay humble. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>next year, it's freaking on. That's all I have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Next year it's on. I have like sub four goal

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<v Speaker 1>and I will hit that. So I'm really excited. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question, of all the men who've gone home so far,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you most excited to talk to at the

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<v Speaker 1>mental all and why? I mean, I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty easy. It's gonna probably be Chriss because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear his final thoughts. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>think that he thought his journey was going to end

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<v Speaker 1>the way it did. Again, I would love to know

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<v Speaker 1>what he thought was going to happen. Yeah, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a ratic, like I just feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>just so much do unpack there. So he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit fat. Let's let's talk to Chris ass honey. And lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>can you and Caitlin please do more TikTok dances? They

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<v Speaker 1>are so fun? Yes, yes, more. Yes, it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>like when we're in the moment and we're like all

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up and we're doing our thing, it's probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the last things on our mind, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>like look back and we're like, why don't we do

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<v Speaker 1>a TikTok or like why didn't we do this or that?

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<v Speaker 1>But when the moment you kind of forget. But TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>dances Her and I just love them, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's something that we both like bond on and

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of pick up pretty easily. So yes, to

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<v Speaker 1>answer your question, yes, we will work on some more.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think she'll be here in New York

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<v Speaker 1>in a few weeks, so maybe we'll do one. Then

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<v Speaker 1>all right, guys, well that was fun. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>submitting some questions. Go ahead and continue to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to do this with Becca Um pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon here so that we can both kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>play around. But other than that, thank you and that

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. But without further ado, it is time to

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<v Speaker 1>bring on our guest Joe mister basketball himself. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor Happy Hour. Hi Joe, good, how are you Minnesota?

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<v Speaker 1>But is it cold? How cold is it? Let's have

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<v Speaker 1>a competition, Let's see who's colder. It's funny. Six Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going to get my phone out because

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<v Speaker 1>it's way colder over there than it is. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about, okay for sure. But first off,

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<v Speaker 1>mister basketball, Minnesota, how are you? How are you doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Been really good? Um? Yeah, this has been a really

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<v Speaker 1>cool experience, and you know, just watching things back has

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<v Speaker 1>been really fun for me. So it's been It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a good experience from me, myself and also my family. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been fun. Has it been fun watching yourself back? Oh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've never really liked listening to my own voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it's fun watching It's fun watching the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we weren't able to see while on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been absolutely I have to say, watching myself

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<v Speaker 1>back when I was on The Bachelor, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I would necessarily call it fun. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>running from one side of the room to the other,

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<v Speaker 1>like the second I'm going to come on. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable watching with my family. The fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, kudos to you. It is uncomfortable. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the other part. It's the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see or hear about before that's really interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good. Um, I need to know. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you end up on the Bachelorette? Yeah, so I was nominated. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I had some people from Minnesota that thoughts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and the show would be a good couple, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they're like, you should really just they asked me

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<v Speaker 1>if I would want to apply, and I was I

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<v Speaker 1>told him like, no, there's no way I'm ever doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Some emojis, um, And then like an hour later or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a screenshot and it was like your submission

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<v Speaker 1>or like your application has been submitted, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you really did it. You really did it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just sent prying emojis, not thinking anything. I would really

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<v Speaker 1>come a bit and I think I reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>like that night, you reached out to you that night

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<v Speaker 1>that night. Yeah, oh my god, that's so quick. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so quick, So like, no way, So at least

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't trying to like get onto a show for

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<v Speaker 1>years now. It was really just because like you thought

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<v Speaker 1>or your friend thought that you would have a connection

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<v Speaker 1>with Michelle. Well that's kind of cool. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's supposed to happen, it's supposed to happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>we had a lot to impact with your journey because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot has happened. But let's take it back to

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<v Speaker 1>night one. Obviously this is not something you were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of expecting. But how nervous were you coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>that limo seeing Michelle on that podium? I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know everything, you know, how it is. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of lead up going into that moment, just how long

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<v Speaker 1>the process is, just making sure that you're ready before

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<v Speaker 1>you get in the limit, and once you're there, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sitting waiting for some of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>to go, and it's just like I wish I would

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<v Speaker 1>have them first, and I ended up being the last

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<v Speaker 1>out of the limo. So it's just like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of nerves going into that. Like I could easily say

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<v Speaker 1>that I was like the most nervous I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Been in a lot of games where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>games are on the line. I'm at the free line

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<v Speaker 1>and I think compared to like that opening night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can well I've never been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mister basketball or like even a basketball player or know

0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:09.280
<v Speaker 1>what that feeling feels like. Um, but yeah, the anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of like the stress of coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>that limo is wild. But for you, yours was even

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more different or a little bit more special,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, because you actually knew Michelle. Did you

0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.440
<v Speaker 1>think that she would recognize you? No, I didn't. I didn't.

0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:37.360
<v Speaker 1>You didn't I did, Okay, So I don't understand you

0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 1>knew that she saw your instagrament. Okay, So you just

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.600
<v Speaker 1>thought it was so long ago, she's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>know I've never met her in person, because clearly, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can clarify for everybody. You guys had

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<v Speaker 1>just DMed a couple of times. It was nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. So you guys have never met in person before.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just thought you would kind of get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Yeah, well, not necessarily get away with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought, you know, I'd be a topic of

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<v Speaker 1>convers station later on, not necessarily right in and there

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, did your heart job? Because I remember this.

0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember because we were watching you guys, and you

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<v Speaker 1>left the podium and she's like, hold on a second,

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<v Speaker 1>did I dm you? Like? And you turned around. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you said what you said something like we'll talk

0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.680
<v Speaker 1>about it or something. I said, we'll see I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something like that, and she's like, wait, you goosit

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<v Speaker 1>me and then just called me out. So were you

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out at that point? I was already freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was just like more more on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad we had that conversation. It was we

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<v Speaker 1>just nipped it in the boot right there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. Well, okay, so you had an interesting night,

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<v Speaker 1>one one that not a lot of people can relate

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<v Speaker 1>to because that was you ghosted our lead by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, probably not the best boot to start on,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it's all good. No, probably not. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the dates that you know, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of saw you step into your element was when we

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<v Speaker 1>were in Palms bringing me on the basketball group date.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, I wanted to say, I'm so sorry for

0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.480
<v Speaker 1>your loss of your coach. Um. I know that was

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<v Speaker 1>really tough for you, Um, but I almost feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy you saw Michelle that day. Because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's something that you could help probably lift your spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, I appreciate that. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy timing because you know, you're not able to really

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the outside world, and the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that day, um, and then got a call about

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<v Speaker 1>my coach passing, you know, on the day that we're

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<v Speaker 1>having a group basketball date. Um. Was it was like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of special, you know, just to like have that

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<v Speaker 1>happened and then um, you know, be able to not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily put it beside me, but then you know, go

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<v Speaker 1>to a place where you should would go to, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have fun and like kind of forgot about

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<v Speaker 1>the outs I think, clear my head exactly. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just being able to have that it was great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it fun to be on that court with all

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<v Speaker 1>the other guys and like kind of being your element. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was super fun. A lot of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of talked about them being hoovers and that

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 1>they're decent and things like that, so I was like, okay, cool, yeah. Fun.

0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.080
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I don't think anybody knew that you like,

0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, had done pretty well your in your basketball career.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at home, so you kind of were just like

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<v Speaker 1>remaining humble at this point, right, Yeah, I just was

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<v Speaker 1>remarrying humble, just staying quiet. I mean, some other guys

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about how they had bounce taking dug and

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<v Speaker 1>all this and that I was just kind of staying Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my play, talked for it. So yes, and you

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<v Speaker 1>did pretty good that day, if I remember. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a little shaky for everyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I think you kind of you took it home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's no segor that Michelle also can ball, and

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<v Speaker 1>she definitely gave you a run for your money. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>is that your first time you ever got you know,

0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you're asked by a girl. Yeah, I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time she killed me. We got a

0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>good game of tig. She got me for sure, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>she did. Is that a turn on for you? With

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<v Speaker 1>watching her play basketball and kind of be able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of school you and kind of match your skill,

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big turn on question. Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. I've never seen her play before, so just

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<v Speaker 1>the end, let's see her in person and seeing her

0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>show was pretty nice. So good. Yeah, well, look, you

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<v Speaker 1>did amazing that day, and I think, um, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of got the group Date Award, if you will,

0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and got to continue on with that, and so you

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.719
<v Speaker 1>guys's connection there continue to grow. But um, what also

0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.880
<v Speaker 1>continued to grow was the drama with Jamie. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna touch on this for a quick little second

0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.639
<v Speaker 1>because really it was you that he was talking about.

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>What went through your mind when you found that that

0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.479
<v Speaker 1>some of the guys aka Jesse Jamie had been questioning

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you and Michelle had any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>relationship before going on the show. Well, I've had some

0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.040
<v Speaker 1>guys I kind of asked, just like you know, night

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<v Speaker 1>one or even this days after there's no one else

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.200
<v Speaker 1>from Minnesota. They were like, do you know her every better?

0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So they were like asking U, but they asked me.

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>They didn't like necessarily like gossip to other guys and say, like, god,

0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it not include me in the conversation at least, so

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.040
<v Speaker 1>they were asking me, I just have a real with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing is, yeah, Jamie never never spoke

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to me, so really, yeah, you never took the time

0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation with me. So um, yeah, that

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was interesting that you know, it ended up just being him.

0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.879
<v Speaker 1>So guys asked you and it just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>you just put it to bad right then and there,

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't really kind of question that, and um

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 1>dive any deeper. Oh yeah, they asked, Yeah, they asked her.

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I know her, if I knew her, I met her

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's never met her. But I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I could elaborate it a little more, but oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like that would have just been not good

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.119
<v Speaker 1>for the situation, something about messages. So it was just

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<v Speaker 1>just kept it at that, like I've never met before,

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's pretty much where it was. Oh God, well,

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's what happens when someone kinds of like

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>makes up this story and just kind of I don't know,

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 1>alludes to something, Well, it ends up budding in the ass.

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And that kind of what happened to Jamie. So at

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<v Speaker 1>least the truth came out and you were truthful. Michelle

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was truthful, and that's all you know. Um, how excited

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 1>were you when you found out that you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Minnesota and no palm strings? Was fun?

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the heat was great. I think you're like, yeah, No,

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that that great? Did the heat get to you?

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 1>It got to me for sure, Okay, would you rather

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>have that kind of heat or what is it? Twenty

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>six there? See, you can always put layers on, but

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you can't take layers. I mean, I guess that's true.

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>It was so hot. I mean, like even during the day,

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.959
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be outside. Yeah, and at night

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 1>it was super hot too. It was super hot. Yeah.

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But see, like I love that. I don't know, I

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>guess I like me too, but like I feel like

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that was just a little aggressed. Yeah, just a little Hey,

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>look at least you guys got to leave and go

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.679
<v Speaker 1>to Minnesota. On my season, we stayed in that one

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty degree the entire time. The entire time. Yeah, yeah,

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it was I mean the men, they really put up

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a fight. So um, but then you gotta go to Minnesota,

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>so you gotta go home. How did how did you

0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>feel when she was like, so we're not staying here,

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.400
<v Speaker 1>We're going to Minnesota, but all the places in the world,

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel? I was geek. I was deek. Minneapolis, Minnesota,

0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it's been my home for twenty six plus years,

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 1>So just being able to come back home, I thought

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it'd be really cool, especially with me and Michelle both

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.359
<v Speaker 1>being there from me here, I thought it would just

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.200
<v Speaker 1>be a really good experience for us both, So I

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 1>was really excited. Yeah, well, I mean I feel like

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 1>number one, that kind of has to feel good because

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you're on this like crazy experience that, like we talked

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.639
<v Speaker 1>about earlier, you don't really get to being cocked and

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like touch with anybody's in the outside world, and like

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 1>at least you're going to go home to where you

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of feel like some sense of like normalcy and

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's also you're stomping ground. So like did you

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.159
<v Speaker 1>think that that was going to kind of allow you

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>to well, I don't know, do you feel like you

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>were being yourself and able to open up and or

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>were you kind of having some walls up still when

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you're I think I think it helped bring some walls down.

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 1>For sure. Felt a lot more comfortable when I was there. Yeah,

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially just with some of the guys too,

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm pretty quiet if I don't really know you.

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 1>So just having the whole group via in Minneapolis, I

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 1>was able to kind of just talk to them about

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>cool areas or historically like famous about this spot and

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.439
<v Speaker 1>like just things like that. And once they got there,

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>they're really impressed with the city and kind of just

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>helped me build form of a connection with some of

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the guys and you know, had them see the place

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that I call home. So I was about to come

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>back for sure. Yeah, it's really rare, you know, for

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like the lead and I can tested to be from

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>the same hometown, and I feel like that's really an

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>advantage for you, Like you know everything around Minneapolis, and

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>so I feel like you kind of have the one

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.680
<v Speaker 1>up on everyone. And the fact that well you got

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a one on one with Michelle as soon as you

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>got to Minneapolis, so you were like having the time

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 1>of your life. Actually you got to go home, then

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you got to have a one on one. First of all,

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:43.640
<v Speaker 1>how did it feel for her to call your name

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>in front of all the guys the second that you

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>saw her. Yeah, that was pretty interesting because we were

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.239
<v Speaker 1>just kind of walking around the city, just stone arch

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But they didn't warn us about CM Michelle

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. So like come in sweatpants, a

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>white tea like super caradual and then like we were

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>just walk up and Michelle's there, Um, not really knowing

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen. And then yeah, she surprises the

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>one on one day so that was really cool. Yeah. Um, okay,

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>so let's see, I've ever been on the field of

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the Twins games before. No, no, I've never been on

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the field of the Twins game. I thrown out the

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>first church, so um, that was a really cool stride

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>as well. So, um, like the one one day just

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>got betting better and better. Really, I mean, did you

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>expect to get a one on one when you were

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>there really hanging o we're back in Minnesota. I figured

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>i'd probably get a one on one date at some point,

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>especially since I hadn't gotten one yet, But I didn't

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>think it was going to be right then and there

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>in that moment. Yeah. I mean, let me ask you

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 1>at this point, what we're like a couple weeks in. Um,

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you obviously have a connection with Michelle and you guys

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>have I've been having like decent conversations and you've gone

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>like a group date rows and things like that. Did

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you needed that one on one time

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>soon in order to really make a breakthrough in your relationship? Yeah,

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I would want to get it soon,

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>sooner than I that's for sure. You know. Like on

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>group dates, there's only so much you can really build

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>on in that setting with so many other guys with you,

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>So just being able to have that one on one

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>day it's something that I was really looking forward to.

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, you know the fact that we got I

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>got that, you know, the first day, and then you know,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>having being something that's like kind of a really cool

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>thing to do with. People go to Twins games, they're

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>like going to supporting events. So being able to do

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that with her it was really dope. Yeah. Have you

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>ever been on a kiss camp before? No, I've never

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>been on the kids first time. Yeah, that's pretty epic.

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie being was on the field, Michelle

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>just threw a pitch and you're on the Kiss Camp.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't only know how else you can

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>top a situation like that at a Twins game. But

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I think you made a statement. Okay, kid, you made

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>a statement. I feel like what was really cool was

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that you guys went to dinner out of RuSHA that

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you had already been too, is that right? The Fairies? Well,

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and she had never ate that restaurant before. What did

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it feel like to be in your hometown with Michelle,

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 1>did it kind of feel like this is what life

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>could be like? Was it pretty surreal for you? Yeah,

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely sue surreal. Um, you know, having the Frands

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>game something that you know people love to do for

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>dates or just like um, weekend things, but like going

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>on a day to Betty Dangers, it's pretty close to

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>where I lived even, and so just doing that just

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>felt like real realistic. I mean, this whole experience is

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy. Um, it's not necessarily always something that you

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>could envision continuing, but like being in Minneapolis, going to

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 1>restaurants that we've both been to before, crazy just made

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it feel so much more real. So crazy to me,

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I honestly wish like I had more hometown dates, like

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in my hometown that would have been Yeah. I mean,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, there's just like another level of it,

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>like you just feel so comfortable, and um, did you

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>want to show her around? Do you kind of wish

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that you were able to like show her, like let

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>me show you like were like I stomped around for sure.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>For sure, there's a lot of spots that I wanted

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to show her. And then some of the guys too.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll her, A lot of people talked out

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis and Minnesota, so they didn't really think much

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>what's going on over here, you guys think, So, why

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think people talked out about it? Because I

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>think I don't know, maybe it was Rodney or something,

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, man, I really just thought Minnesota

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>just farmland and stuff like that. I was like so

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>much more so, I just think like people in the

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>West Coast just don't really have a sense of what's

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>going on in the Midwest. On a more serious note, though,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I will I want to talk about you know you

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>guys is one on one in the conversation you guys

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>had that evening, um, which I feel like was so

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>special and um, I don't know, it just meant a

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>lot to like watch you walk through that experience and

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>share it with everybody. Have you I mean, I know

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you said you really don't tell with many people about

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, your injuries with basketball, and like how it

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>affected your life. Did you kind of feel apprehensive to

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>sharing that story and how do you feel now that

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you did it? Um? Yeah, I mean anything that I

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>don't do, like on a consistent basis, UM kind of

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>makes me a little nervous or it's not something I

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>usually do. UM, not always comfortable doing that. But you know,

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>given Michelle, like we were already um kind of build

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a connection around basketball, and I wanted to make sure

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that she, um just kind of knew more about me

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 1>and where I you know, kind of kind of been

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>through and you know, how it was affected my life

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and how I kind of fought through those injuries and

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>how you know, it's tough mentally on somebody who's worked

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>so long and so hard on a specific goal and

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>then you know it's not necessarily something that they've reached,

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>especially after you know, something that was out of their control,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>um and just part of you know, the process of sports.

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>So um, that was tough. But I definitely wanted her

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to know that, um, what I was going through and

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that so she could paying a picture of who I

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>am as a person too. So I'm happy that I

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>was able to open up to her, and because I

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>think it was good. Yeah, it must have felt really

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>good and really safe to be able to talk to

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>someone that can possibly understand what that actually feels like

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>when basketball is your life and you know you put

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>in so much hard work and effort day in and

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>day out, and Michelle's obviously has done that too. So

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>did that make it easier for you to feel like

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you can open up to her and talk to her

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>about it? Yeah? For sure. I mean if you just

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>speak to like a regular person. I never really wanted

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>anybody to like feel sorry for me, So just like

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>explaining that to somebody who hasn't been through that process

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and that grind, I don't think would really fully understand.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And so having someone to talk to about that who

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>has been through that process, has gone through those hard

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>days and those hard nights of practice and conditioning and

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>just the whole process of at all made it made

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it really good just to build that deeper connection that

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>you know we had together. So yeah, can you talk

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about you know, because I know

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you talked about like how it was kind of like

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a really dark place in your life and how hard

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that was mentally, Like how how was that journey for you,

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like getting from how you felt then to like now,

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's not something that happens overnight obviously, Um,

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>And you were like how you said you had high

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>standards for yourself and when you're doing essentially the same

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>exact thing that you were doing a couple of weeks ago,

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's just not the same. I'm sure that was

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>really really really hard on you. Yeah, yeah, it was.

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It was It was you know, being so I was

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>at the university and I transferred all the way to

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Saint Mary, so I had never been away from home before.

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>That in itself was pretty difficult for me, being such

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a home body and being so close to my friends

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and family. So that was hard on its own, but

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>then kind of having basketball taking away from me at

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that same time, it was what really made it hard

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, I didn't have anyone to really

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>support me in those moments in person, you know, I

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>think Skype was still kind of picking up and like

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we had a little bit of FaceTime, but it's nothing

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>like it is now. So I didn't really have that

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>many people to reach out to or speak with, and

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I really just felt alone, and so that was difficult,

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I knew I was going through a dark

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>situation and I wanted to put myself in a better

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>position after that. So that's why I ended up transferring

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and just coming back home so we could have that

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>support system back around me, which is so so important.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Especially yeah, when you feel like you're alone, and you

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>even said that you questioned, like who am I if

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have this, and like what is my identity?

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that is a thing that obviously

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>in different forms, but that we all can probably relate

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to and have felt at some point in life when

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>something you know as big as an injury or you

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>know someone our family passes away, something that kind of

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>just like really makes you question that question who am I?

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Is a really scary place to be. And I'm really

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>happy that you were able to go back home and

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of be surrounded by your family. But injuries are

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>so common, like high level athletes. What advice do you

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>have for men and women out there who have experienced

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a life changing injury? I would say, you know, trust

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the process. Um, you know it can be really dark,

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>tough time. Um, you know injuries can be eight, twelve,

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>sixteen weeks. But doing what you have to do every

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>single day, knowing that if you would do trust that

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and keep going through that process, you know things will

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>work out. But it's it's tough. It's tough. You know,

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you climb up that hill to get back in shape

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>or to get your injured leg, foot or whatever it

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>may be back and then get injured again and fall

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>back down there. Um is tough mentally, so I would

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>say just try to trust the process, but also make

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>sure your mental is as good as it can be. Yeah,

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:24.719
<v Speaker 1>it's tough. M. Do you feel as though being surrounded

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>by like your friends from back home that kind of

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>sped up that process of like kind of feeling like

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>alone and getting out of that dark hole? M? Yeah,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for sure, for sure. Yeah, my friends and family are

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a big part of my life. I keep a small

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>circle still, but those people that are around me are

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the ones that you know, got me to where I

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>am today, and so without them, I wouldn't be the

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>person that I am. So M just having those like

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>good support systems around you is what, you know, really

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>helped me, and you know, I'm really grateful for it.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like my injury doesn't necessarily compare because running

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't something that like I was like striving to be

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>an Olympian or anything like that. But I ran in

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>high school and I was planning on running in college,

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and as a freshman in college, I actually was on

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>my first week as a freshman in college, I was

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>actually ran over by a truck and it completely fractured

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>my pelvis, and like it was the craziest feeling. So

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like I know what you kind of mean and when

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you're saying like something just gets taken away kind of

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>in an instant and trying to rebuild that especially for me,

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even walk, so I had to really

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>learn how to walk. So it's like something like that.

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>It's tough to I don't know, just not how everybody

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like sorry for me, Like I'm already going through

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>enough right now. I'm like trying to, like you know,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>find your new groove with everything. Like it's a very

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a very tough place to be. And I remember

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>like I had to like stay home. I couldn't even

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I had months of schooling that was like taken away

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and that was like behind everybody. It was just like

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a mess. But UM, I know exactly what

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you mean by um just need to be surrounded by

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>your your loved ones. And UM, I'm sorry, were you

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in like a body cast? Like how was the recovery? Um? Truthfully,

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:25.479
<v Speaker 1>there's no surgery for a fractured pelvis, so like it's

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I had very attractive I actually had a walker. Um,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and I that's it. I just kind of had to

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>like do physical therapy every single day. I had to

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>relearn how to walk like I like I said, back

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital, and um, I had to move dorm

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>rooms all of stuff, so I couldn't walk upstairs anymore.

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I couldn't walk far, so I couldn't walk to

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>classrooms and things like that. It was just it was tough.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was kind of just having um, what's

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it called crutches and a walker and it's kind of

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like limping around and being at a school for about

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:03.959
<v Speaker 1>three and a half four months. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah,

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>so I get what that kind of like pain can

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>do to your mental state. Um, but again not to

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>the level of, like you know, I don't know, having

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that be like your full identity. You know, that's toff.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Um let's see. Um, I don't know, I don't even

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>know where to go from that because it's so heavy.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>But I just want to say like thank you for

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>being able to like open up because they feel like

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have gone through injuries like this,

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>like in college. It's very very common. And um, I

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>think your story on you know, the bachelor is something

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people can resonate with. And now

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.240
<v Speaker 1>seeing you now being able to still be like playing

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>basketball and um being as happy as you are, like,

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really it's really sweet and I'm happy you

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>did it, so thank you. Um, if you could have

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>planned the perfect one on one day in Minneapolis, what

0:36:56.400 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>would have been curse one on one day? Let's see?

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Um for sure m h, I guess I probably would

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>do like probably wouldn't be TV acceptable with like a movie.

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean for us to go see a movie, a

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>movie dinner, but like um, like maybe a dinner on

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>like Saint Anthony Maine or on the stone arch during

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like the sunset or something like that. Okay, here, let

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>me romanticize it for you. How about we like do

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>like a projector Yeah, how about a projector projector outside

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>come on now and then you got popcorn beach with

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a popcorn with some plush little like couches lanterns everywhere

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on underneath the stars, overlooking city exact. Probably go to

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a boom island. I know the perfect spot. See see

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:58.240
<v Speaker 1>so yeah you have I can help you with this stuff,

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Okay, Well that would have

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>been really really cool. Um, okay, so movies. So you're

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a simple guy. I like that. I like that at

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>least it's something like crazy. Um, you know crazy. It

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like something that Chris s would do,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>like showing up at a one on one day. Yeah,

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty crazy. I'd love to know your thoughts about

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the drama with Chris as. Where do we start? You

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>literally just picked up your wattle bottle and taking a

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>swig because you okay, gather yourself, gather your thoughts. Tell

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>me about your thoughts. I just want to know. I

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>think with Chris As, he what he was trying to

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>do was coming from a good place. But I think

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>how you did it and what you said was not

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the right thing to say. Are you talking about the

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>outbursts at the cocktail party, the kind of about the

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>whole Nate thing. Yeah, I like saying that guys had

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it in the bag because no one has ever said

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>that in the house. Yeah, but I think just the

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>way he said it, and you know, how I came

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>across was definitely not the way he should have. Um,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And I told him I've been in there. In that

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>moment I got up, I was like, what are you doing?

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Why would you say that? Because

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no one's ever said that. Um, but

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean he must have heard some things that I

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear. So um but as far as as that, yeah,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't I told him that wasn't a good. Look.

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts about him crashing Nates one on one? Yeah,

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that's why that's pretty crazy. I don't know. That was

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a really bad idea. I don't know, like you can't

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>really twist that any other way. That should not have

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>been done. I would have been really upset if it

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>was my Well, look, I was saying this at the earlier,

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 1>like earlier on the episode. Um, there's just a way

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>to go about making your voice be heard and kind

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, warning if you are quote unquote

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 1>warning the lead about people. But it's definitely not crashing

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a one on one day. Um, And I'm not quite sure.

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like really that Okay, let me ask you,

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 1>because you're a guy, maybe you can try to like

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>enlighten me what was going through his head? What did

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Chris asked, really think was going to happen? Liked, did

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.959
<v Speaker 1>he really think that like Michelle would have been like Chris,

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you are right, I'm gonna leave Nate and like leave

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the one on one and then like go back with

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>him back to the hotel. There's there's no situation, right.

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that like would go smoothly for Chris doing that.

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what you think. Con

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm really trying to give him the benefit

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt here, But I just don't know what

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he was thinking. And then instead he got himself sent home. Yeah,

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think did you see that coming. I

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like he might have been like, all right, this

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>is just the last straw. He might have been in

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a different mental space where he was like, if I

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>get sent on at home. So did you have any

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>idea that he was going to do that, because you

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>guys were all back up the hub, you know. Yeah, No,

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean we had talked like a group chat setting.

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Um we're like he had mentioned or some of the

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.240
<v Speaker 1>guys that said that, like she called him out about

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>not practicing what he preaches or something like that. I

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>think he got a little frustrated about that. I don't know.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what they led into crash in the days.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I don't know. It was a shock.

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it was a shock to me

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that Michelle sent him home as soon as she did,

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>just because well, I guess the whole thing was a

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>shock to me. But did you think he was going

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to go home that night? Well, I just knew he

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.720
<v Speaker 1>wasn't around, so I like, see what it was happening.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>But I figured like something wasn't nothing good was going

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>to happen. So I had a feeling like this that

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>might be the last time I saw christas Oh god,

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. Well look that's as much as you know,

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:58.439
<v Speaker 1>that might be the end of the road for Chris ass.

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's still lots to come, um here

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in the next few episodes. Um, could you be able

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to give us a one sentence teaser of what's to

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:23.399
<v Speaker 1>come in the season? One sentenced teaser? Uh, something that's

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>never happened before. You think, oh, that's a teaser. Okay,

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>something it's never happened before is going to happen soon.

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>M I think that's pretty good. Okay, Well, I don't

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>know if I don't know if that's you with you

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>or if that if that's what somebody else. But I'm

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>very no, No, you're vot almostly. I mean I was

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm still I'm I'm interested, I'm excited. Um okay, Well,

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the other thing that we usually ask our guests, um

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that are on the episode is what is your rose

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and your thorn? So what was your rose and thorn

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of your journey thus far? Rose? Yeah, finally meeting Michelle

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>for sure, okay, um and the thorn probably the late nights,

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>so very long late nights that I was not ready for,

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>especially with like the time difference, so like when we're

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in Palm Springs, it's really like two hours later for

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>me because what I was used to in the center

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 1>right right right, you know, Joe, I have to say,

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you've realized you may not have ever had to do

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:51.359
<v Speaker 1>all of this, Um, had you have DMed the girl back?

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Just putting it out there? Um, well, it's just because

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys, little one date was really really cute, and

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there is you know, a lot of

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>chemistry there and I don't know, I saw like something

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>special there. So just saying maybe y'all, should you know

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>DM people back when they reach out? True? Or maybe

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>this was just how it was meant to be. Oh,

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>that's true too. That's true too. Okay, So I want

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 1>to play a little game with you. It's just gonna

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>be like a rapid fire game. We're going to give

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you a most likely too, and you'll finish this sentence

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>with the name of someone from Michelle's group of guys. Okay,

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>are you ready right? Okay? Most likely to get the

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>party started, mate, Oh, okay. Most likely to start the

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>drama Peter and jameson. Most likely to be there when

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you needed them ran Oh. Most likely to forget their

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>wallet at home. Oh that's me. We ain't going out

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>on today. Okay, you're not allowed to take anybody out.

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Most likely to get the guys laughing all Rodney for sure. Yeah.

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Most likely to be last picked for a game of

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>basketball party. Wow. Wow, come on, I'm sorry. He made

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 1>an incredible shot. You have to adva he did. He did,

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>he did, and it was his first shot, his one

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and only, but it was a glory shot. Okay, uh,

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that was savage. Okay. Most likely to cheat to win

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 1>a group date. See so during the Teddy Bear fight,

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>we had rules that were set no like like no hitting,

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and Clayton caught me with a fist a fist of

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the face, and so I'm just gonna say that. I

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>feel like Counts is cheating for that game, so I'm

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with Clayton. Wow, all right, let's see. Most

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>likely to be a groomsman in your wedding. See. Oh see,

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>me and Leroy got a really good connection when we

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>were here in Minneapolis. Yeah, and he's super fresh, so

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>i'd like Leroy. He's made it in. Okay. Most likely

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>to steal Michelle first at a cocktail party h Martin. Oh, okay,

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.959
<v Speaker 1>that's good. Most likely to skinny dip in a pool.

0:46:54.840 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, thank well. Really everyone's been saying you for

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>this one. It's a skinny dip. Yeah, I'm kidding. I

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>was about to say, idea, Okay, that's so funny. Most

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>likely to go to bed first that probably. Yeah, I

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>think everyone's been saying you for this. I was sleeping

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot, for sure. We are you. Okay, it is

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the late night I just got it, got it, okay.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Most likely to actually beat you in a game of

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>one on one to beat me, yeah, you know one, okay,

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>except for Michelle, except for Michelle. Okay, yeah, all right, well, Joe,

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 1>it was so fun to talk to you. Thank you

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>so much for stopping by, and I'm sure this will

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>not be the last time we speak. Thank you so

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>much for having me. I really appreciate it absolutely all right, guys, Well,

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that was fun having Joe on, and thank you so

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>much for submitting some fan questions earlier today. That is

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>all we have for you, so thank you so much

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to our Happy Hour listeners, as well as thank you

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.160
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0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.600
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0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:44.560
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