Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Guess what, it's just your GRLTAIA.
Speaker 1: This week Becca is out. Okay, but don't you worry,
Speaker 1: because I'm here to talk about everything from last night's
Speaker 1: episode and even to answer some of you guys is
Speaker 1: juicy questions that you guys have submitted. But also we
Speaker 1: have mister Basketball himself joining me to talk about his
Speaker 1: one on one that just so happened to take place
Speaker 1: in his hometown of Minnesota, and so much more. There
Speaker 1: were some things that happened this week in the episode.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily just I got secondhand embarrassment,
Speaker 1: you know, I just felt so bad for Chriss. Chris
Speaker 1: s that man. I feel like he was starting to
Speaker 1: spiral out of control, and like we kind of all
Speaker 1: saw it coming. I wonder if he saw it coming
Speaker 1: or if he felt it. His demeanor was off, his
Speaker 1: energy was just off, and sure enough, in true Bachelor fashion,
Speaker 1: when people start to spy a lot of control, well
Speaker 1: that means the end is near, unfortunately, and Chris decided
Speaker 1: to take it into his own hands to quote unquote
Speaker 1: show up. Like Michelle has asked, I don't know if
Speaker 1: she necessarily meant it in this way, especially on a
Speaker 1: one on one when he clearly has no business attending.
Speaker 1: But he showed up all right, and she said audios.
Speaker 1: I think at this point I just really loved that.
Speaker 1: Michelle was like, look, I need somebody to have my back,
Speaker 1: but lets me speak. I don't need to be spoken for.
Speaker 1: In fact, I feel extremely empowered when I when I'm speaking,
Speaker 1: and I just need somebody that actually supports that and
Speaker 1: can just have my back with whatever I say and
Speaker 1: allows me to make my own judgments and decisions on
Speaker 1: my own. And with that said, my judgment is your
Speaker 1: judgment day, sir, and you're gonna go home. So ah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he necessarily saw that one coming,
Speaker 1: or I don't know what he was thinking was going
Speaker 1: to happen, why he was going to save the day.
Speaker 1: She's going to stop her date with Nate and go
Speaker 1: back home with him. Just you know, a role of
Speaker 1: advice for everybody out there, if you ever decide to
Speaker 1: make your a little sweet way onto the Bachelor bachelorette,
Speaker 1: don't do this. Okay. I know it sounds like a
Speaker 1: really good idea at the time, Just don't do it.
Speaker 1: There's another way to go about it and it ain't
Speaker 1: it like that, So that was I think it was
Speaker 1: time for Chris asked to say goodbye. Unfortunately, I feel
Speaker 1: like he really didn't have fun on the Viking date.
Speaker 1: Which the Viking date, Can we talk about that for
Speaker 1: a second. I may have sent myself home on that
Speaker 1: date because truthfully, the thing that they were eating a
Speaker 1: raw fish, I mean brandan bit into that fish, and
Speaker 1: I swear I saw juice guts spitting out, and literally
Speaker 1: Rodney is so funny. It was like you say it crunchy.
Speaker 1: It was I could not stop laughing. Rodney kills me. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So this week's episode was really good. I feel like
Speaker 1: I really loved Nate's went on. One day. Michelle was
Speaker 1: in her element and she fell up at home, but
Speaker 1: also she felt at home and like really really comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I feel like she really grew in a relationship
Speaker 1: with Joe, which I cannot wait to have him here
Speaker 1: on the episode today. He's coming any minute now and
Speaker 1: we'll just deep dive with that with him. But until then,
Speaker 1: we have some fan questions to answer. Let's see what
Speaker 1: y'all have submitted, shall we? What is the best part
Speaker 1: of co hosting the bachelort. Well, number one, the pressure
Speaker 1: is not on me, so I just got to kind
Speaker 1: of like sit back and kind of giggle and laugh
Speaker 1: and really admire like the love and how much you
Speaker 1: watch all of these individuals grow from Afar, Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like you really see these people like step out
Speaker 1: of their comfort zones and put themselves out there and
Speaker 1: try to do these romantic gestures. And there's just something
Speaker 1: so I don't know, sweet and endearing about it that, Um,
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch from Afar, but also like watching
Speaker 1: you know, the lead kind of fall in love and
Speaker 1: really seeing that from night one to like the finish,
Speaker 1: it's just like the waves of emotions and and and
Speaker 1: just like the people that you filter through. It's funny
Speaker 1: like how your gut instinct is always correct and that's
Speaker 1: just been really fun. Also, I mean, come on, Caitlin
Speaker 1: and I have a freaking ball of a time. We
Speaker 1: cannot stop laughing. In fact, I feel like we need
Speaker 1: a TV show ourselves and just like to just show
Speaker 1: you guys how crazy we are behind the scenes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I really enjoy my co host and I really have
Speaker 1: fun doing what I do. Um. Next question, what is
Speaker 1: the biggest difference between your hosting role now versus actually
Speaker 1: being the bachelorette U. So I get asked us a lot,
Speaker 1: but for a lot of the obvious reasons, and I
Speaker 1: kind of touched on that with the last question. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not in the vulnerable, I'm not in the volnable position,
Speaker 1: which you know I've done. It's it's an amazing experience,
Speaker 1: but also at the same time, it's extremely draining and
Speaker 1: it can be really tough, but it also could be
Speaker 1: extremely rewarding. So right now, as hosting, it's kind of
Speaker 1: just kind of being on the sidelines, just kind of
Speaker 1: like watching over what's kind of happening. You don't really
Speaker 1: get to intervene too much and get to be a
Speaker 1: part of like what's going on, which I kind of
Speaker 1: find special because we look forward to those conversations with Michelle.
Speaker 1: She kind of like fills us in. I don't know
Speaker 1: everything at times, so it's nice to kind of hear
Speaker 1: her experience from you know, how she's experienced it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to say the late night, in the long hours,
Speaker 1: I was watching Michelle do it, like I would like
Speaker 1: look out my window and they were still out there
Speaker 1: at like three am. I'm like, there's no way y'all
Speaker 1: can get me to do that again. Like I was
Speaker 1: exhausted just thinking about it. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: did it. But then again, it's like a crazy high
Speaker 1: when you're doing it. So yeah, So the biggest difference, well,
Speaker 1: it's just not me in the hot scene and being
Speaker 1: able to kind of like help somebody on their journey
Speaker 1: has been really fun rewarding. M What did you do
Speaker 1: to train for the NY Marathon? Well, it was kind
Speaker 1: of difficult because I had made the commitment to do
Speaker 1: the marathon back at the end of May, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I had. I had decided that I want to do
Speaker 1: the marathon at the end of May, and I signed
Speaker 1: up in June, and truthfully, like to two weeks later
Speaker 1: or three weeks later, I was leaving to go film
Speaker 1: Michelle season, so actually two weeks later yea. So it
Speaker 1: was really tough and not ideal my training regiment, just
Speaker 1: because I didn't get back into the city until mid September,
Speaker 1: which is actually crazy to me, Like I was on
Speaker 1: the road for that long and truthfully training on a treadmill.
Speaker 1: If I'm sure some of you guys know, if you
Speaker 1: guys are runners, but training on a treadmill is not
Speaker 1: nearly the same as running outside and trying to pace
Speaker 1: yourself and figuring out the distance you can go and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So I did it as much as I possibly could.
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough being stuck in a hotel and
Speaker 1: having that beer only outlet, and sometimes you just don't
Speaker 1: want to be like in an inside hotel gym. You
Speaker 1: just kind of want to be outside in kind of rome.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the beauty of running, is
Speaker 1: exploring and kind of having that, I don't know, a
Speaker 1: free spirit, if you will. So it was a little
Speaker 1: difficult until I got here back to New York City
Speaker 1: and I was able to run around the city. I
Speaker 1: saw it in a completely different light than I normally had,
Speaker 1: which I think is like the most exciting thing for me.
Speaker 1: Like it was I would be on runs and I
Speaker 1: would completely stop and just be in all of like
Speaker 1: the skyline and be like I actually live here, Like
Speaker 1: I made this happen. It's been a dream for me
Speaker 1: for a while. It's been a dream of mine for
Speaker 1: a while, and it was just very surreal. And to
Speaker 1: do that with Zach and some of our friends have
Speaker 1: just I don't know. It's just been really magical. So
Speaker 1: it was really just doing at least like two short
Speaker 1: runs during the week and then doing a long run
Speaker 1: on the weekend when I could fit it in. Ideally,
Speaker 1: I would have loved to train a little bit more,
Speaker 1: just so you know, if I would have trained a
Speaker 1: little bit more, I would have gone a better time.
Speaker 1: I would have smoked yell, just kidding. Humble, humble, stay humble. Anyway,
Speaker 1: next year, it's freaking on. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 1: Next year it's on. I have like sub four goal
Speaker 1: and I will hit that. So I'm really excited. Um.
Speaker 1: Next question, of all the men who've gone home so far,
Speaker 1: who are you most excited to talk to at the
Speaker 1: mental all and why? I mean, I have to say
Speaker 1: this is pretty easy. It's gonna probably be Chriss because
Speaker 1: I want to hear his final thoughts. I don't really
Speaker 1: think that he thought his journey was going to end
Speaker 1: the way it did. Again, I would love to know
Speaker 1: what he thought was going to happen. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: kind of a ratic, like I just feel like there's
Speaker 1: just so much do unpack there. So he's a little
Speaker 1: bit fat. Let's let's talk to Chris ass honey. And lastly,
Speaker 1: can you and Caitlin please do more TikTok dances? They
Speaker 1: are so fun? Yes, yes, more. Yes, it's funny because
Speaker 1: like when we're in the moment and we're like all
Speaker 1: dressed up and we're doing our thing, it's probably one
Speaker 1: of the last things on our mind, and then we
Speaker 1: like look back and we're like, why don't we do
Speaker 1: a TikTok or like why didn't we do this or that?
Speaker 1: But when the moment you kind of forget. But TikTok
Speaker 1: dances Her and I just love them, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's something that we both like bond on and
Speaker 1: we kind of pick up pretty easily. So yes, to
Speaker 1: answer your question, yes, we will work on some more.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think she'll be here in New York
Speaker 1: in a few weeks, so maybe we'll do one. Then
Speaker 1: all right, guys, well that was fun. Thank you for
Speaker 1: submitting some questions. Go ahead and continue to do that.
Speaker 1: I would love to do this with Becca Um pretty
Speaker 1: soon here so that we can both kind of like
Speaker 1: play around. But other than that, thank you and that
Speaker 1: was fun. But without further ado, it is time to
Speaker 1: bring on our guest Joe mister basketball himself. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour. Hi Joe, good, how are you Minnesota?
Speaker 1: But is it cold? How cold is it? Let's have
Speaker 1: a competition, Let's see who's colder. It's funny. Six Oh
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to get my phone out because
Speaker 1: it's way colder over there than it is. We have
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, okay for sure. But first off,
Speaker 1: mister basketball, Minnesota, how are you? How are you doing good?
Speaker 1: Been really good? Um? Yeah, this has been a really
Speaker 1: cool experience, and you know, just watching things back has
Speaker 1: been really fun for me. So it's been It's been
Speaker 1: a good experience from me, myself and also my family. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's been fun. Has it been fun watching yourself back? Oh? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I've never really liked listening to my own voice,
Speaker 1: and like it's fun watching It's fun watching the things
Speaker 1: that we weren't able to see while on the show.
Speaker 1: So that's been absolutely I have to say, watching myself
Speaker 1: back when I was on The Bachelor, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I would necessarily call it fun. I was like
Speaker 1: running from one side of the room to the other,
Speaker 1: like the second I'm going to come on. I was like,
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable watching with my family. The fact that you
Speaker 1: do that, kudos to you. It is uncomfortable. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the other part. It's the stuff that
Speaker 1: I didn't see or hear about before that's really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all good. Um, I need to know. How did
Speaker 1: you end up on the Bachelorette? Yeah, so I was nominated. Okay.
Speaker 1: I had some people from Minnesota that thoughts, you know,
Speaker 1: me and the show would be a good couple, and
Speaker 1: so they're like, you should really just they asked me
Speaker 1: if I would want to apply, and I was I
Speaker 1: told him like, no, there's no way I'm ever doing that.
Speaker 1: Some emojis, um, And then like an hour later or something,
Speaker 1: I got a screenshot and it was like your submission
Speaker 1: or like your application has been submitted, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you really did it. You really did it. And I
Speaker 1: just sent prying emojis, not thinking anything. I would really
Speaker 1: come a bit and I think I reached out to
Speaker 1: like that night, you reached out to you that night
Speaker 1: that night. Yeah, oh my god, that's so quick. It
Speaker 1: was so quick, So like, no way, So at least
Speaker 1: you weren't trying to like get onto a show for
Speaker 1: years now. It was really just because like you thought
Speaker 1: or your friend thought that you would have a connection
Speaker 1: with Michelle. Well that's kind of cool. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: when it's supposed to happen, it's supposed to happen. But
Speaker 1: we had a lot to impact with your journey because
Speaker 1: a lot has happened. But let's take it back to
Speaker 1: night one. Obviously this is not something you were kind
Speaker 1: of expecting. But how nervous were you coming out of
Speaker 1: that limo seeing Michelle on that podium? I need to
Speaker 1: know everything, you know, how it is. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of lead up going into that moment, just how long
Speaker 1: the process is, just making sure that you're ready before
Speaker 1: you get in the limit, and once you're there, you're
Speaker 1: kind of sitting waiting for some of the other guys
Speaker 1: to go, and it's just like I wish I would
Speaker 1: have them first, and I ended up being the last
Speaker 1: out of the limo. So it's just like a lot
Speaker 1: of nerves going into that. Like I could easily say
Speaker 1: that I was like the most nervous I've been in
Speaker 1: my life. Been in a lot of games where you know,
Speaker 1: games are on the line. I'm at the free line
Speaker 1: and I think compared to like that opening night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I can well I've never been you know,
Speaker 1: mister basketball or like even a basketball player or know
Speaker 1: what that feeling feels like. Um, but yeah, the anxiety
Speaker 1: and kind of like the stress of coming out of
Speaker 1: that limo is wild. But for you, yours was even
Speaker 1: a little bit more different or a little bit more special,
Speaker 1: if you will, because you actually knew Michelle. Did you
Speaker 1: think that she would recognize you? No, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't I did, Okay, So I don't understand you
Speaker 1: knew that she saw your instagrament. Okay, So you just
Speaker 1: thought it was so long ago, she's not going to
Speaker 1: know I've never met her in person, because clearly, you guys,
Speaker 1: I mean you can clarify for everybody. You guys had
Speaker 1: just DMed a couple of times. It was nothing more
Speaker 1: than that. So you guys have never met in person before.
Speaker 1: So you just thought you would kind of get away
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, well, not necessarily get away with it,
Speaker 1: but I thought, you know, I'd be a topic of
Speaker 1: convers station later on, not necessarily right in and there
Speaker 1: in that moment, did your heart job? Because I remember this.
Speaker 1: I remember because we were watching you guys, and you
Speaker 1: left the podium and she's like, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: did I dm you? Like? And you turned around. I
Speaker 1: think you said what you said something like we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it or something. I said, we'll see I think
Speaker 1: maybe something like that, and she's like, wait, you goosit
Speaker 1: me and then just called me out. So were you
Speaker 1: freaking out at that point? I was already freaking out.
Speaker 1: So that was just like more more on top of it.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad we had that conversation. It was we
Speaker 1: just nipped it in the boot right there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. Well, okay, so you had an interesting night,
Speaker 1: one one that not a lot of people can relate
Speaker 1: to because that was you ghosted our lead by the way,
Speaker 1: not you know, probably not the best boot to start on,
Speaker 1: but like it's all good. No, probably not. But I
Speaker 1: think one of the dates that you know, we kind
Speaker 1: of saw you step into your element was when we
Speaker 1: were in Palms bringing me on the basketball group date.
Speaker 1: First off, I wanted to say, I'm so sorry for
Speaker 1: your loss of your coach. Um. I know that was
Speaker 1: really tough for you, Um, but I almost feel like
Speaker 1: I'm happy you saw Michelle that day. Because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's something that you could help probably lift your spirits.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I appreciate that. It was it was
Speaker 1: crazy timing because you know, you're not able to really
Speaker 1: talk to the outside world, and the fact that you
Speaker 1: know that day, um, and then got a call about
Speaker 1: my coach passing, you know, on the day that we're
Speaker 1: having a group basketball date. Um. Was it was like
Speaker 1: kind of special, you know, just to like have that
Speaker 1: happened and then um, you know, be able to not
Speaker 1: necessarily put it beside me, but then you know, go
Speaker 1: to a place where you should would go to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, have fun and like kind of forgot about
Speaker 1: the outs I think, clear my head exactly. So yeah,
Speaker 1: just being able to have that it was great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was it fun to be on that court with all
Speaker 1: the other guys and like kind of being your element. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was super fun. A lot of the other guys
Speaker 1: that kind of talked about them being hoovers and that
Speaker 1: they're decent and things like that, so I was like, okay, cool, yeah. Fun.
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't think anybody knew that you like,
Speaker 1: you know, had done pretty well your in your basketball career.
Speaker 1: Back at home, so you kind of were just like
Speaker 1: remaining humble at this point, right, Yeah, I just was
Speaker 1: remarrying humble, just staying quiet. I mean, some other guys
Speaker 1: are talking about how they had bounce taking dug and
Speaker 1: all this and that I was just kind of staying Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my play, talked for it. So yes, and you
Speaker 1: did pretty good that day, if I remember. At first,
Speaker 1: I think it was a little shaky for everyone, but
Speaker 1: then I think you kind of you took it home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's no segor that Michelle also can ball, and
Speaker 1: she definitely gave you a run for your money. Um,
Speaker 1: is that your first time you ever got you know,
Speaker 1: you're asked by a girl. Yeah, I would say that
Speaker 1: is the first time she killed me. We got a
Speaker 1: good game of tig. She got me for sure, Yeah
Speaker 1: she did. Is that a turn on for you? With
Speaker 1: watching her play basketball and kind of be able to
Speaker 1: kind of school you and kind of match your skill,
Speaker 1: It was a big turn on question. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure. I've never seen her play before, so just
Speaker 1: the end, let's see her in person and seeing her
Speaker 1: show was pretty nice. So good. Yeah, well, look, you
Speaker 1: did amazing that day, and I think, um, yeah, you
Speaker 1: also kind of got the group Date Award, if you will,
Speaker 1: and got to continue on with that, and so you
Speaker 1: guys's connection there continue to grow. But um, what also
Speaker 1: continued to grow was the drama with Jamie. And we're
Speaker 1: just gonna touch on this for a quick little second
Speaker 1: because really it was you that he was talking about.
Speaker 1: What went through your mind when you found that that
Speaker 1: some of the guys aka Jesse Jamie had been questioning
Speaker 1: whether or not you and Michelle had any sort of
Speaker 1: relationship before going on the show. Well, I've had some
Speaker 1: guys I kind of asked, just like you know, night
Speaker 1: one or even this days after there's no one else
Speaker 1: from Minnesota. They were like, do you know her every better?
Speaker 1: So they were like asking U, but they asked me.
Speaker 1: They didn't like necessarily like gossip to other guys and say, like, god,
Speaker 1: it not include me in the conversation at least, so
Speaker 1: they were asking me, I just have a real with them.
Speaker 1: But the funny thing is, yeah, Jamie never never spoke
Speaker 1: to me, so really, yeah, you never took the time
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with me. So um, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was interesting that you know, it ended up just being him.
Speaker 1: So guys asked you and it just kind of like
Speaker 1: you just put it to bad right then and there,
Speaker 1: and they didn't really kind of question that, and um
Speaker 1: dive any deeper. Oh yeah, they asked, Yeah, they asked her.
Speaker 1: I know her, if I knew her, I met her
Speaker 1: and that's never met her. But I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I could elaborate it a little more, but oh, I
Speaker 1: just felt like that would have just been not good
Speaker 1: for the situation, something about messages. So it was just
Speaker 1: just kept it at that, like I've never met before,
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much where it was. Oh God, well,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what happens when someone kinds of like
Speaker 1: makes up this story and just kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: alludes to something, Well, it ends up budding in the ass.
Speaker 1: And that kind of what happened to Jamie. So at
Speaker 1: least the truth came out and you were truthful. Michelle
Speaker 1: was truthful, and that's all you know. Um, how excited
Speaker 1: were you when you found out that you guys were
Speaker 1: to go to Minnesota and no palm strings? Was fun?
Speaker 1: Obviously the heat was great. I think you're like, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: wasn't that that great? Did the heat get to you?
Speaker 1: It got to me for sure, Okay, would you rather
Speaker 1: have that kind of heat or what is it? Twenty
Speaker 1: six there? See, you can always put layers on, but
Speaker 1: you can't take layers. I mean, I guess that's true.
Speaker 1: It was so hot. I mean, like even during the day,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be outside. Yeah, and at night
Speaker 1: it was super hot too. It was super hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But see, like I love that. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: guess I like me too, but like I feel like
Speaker 1: that was just a little aggressed. Yeah, just a little Hey,
Speaker 1: look at least you guys got to leave and go
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. On my season, we stayed in that one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty degree the entire time. The entire time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was I mean the men, they really put up
Speaker 1: a fight. So um, but then you gotta go to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: so you gotta go home. How did how did you
Speaker 1: feel when she was like, so we're not staying here,
Speaker 1: We're going to Minnesota, but all the places in the world,
Speaker 1: how do you feel? I was geek. I was deek. Minneapolis, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Like it's been my home for twenty six plus years,
Speaker 1: So just being able to come back home, I thought
Speaker 1: it'd be really cool, especially with me and Michelle both
Speaker 1: being there from me here, I thought it would just
Speaker 1: be a really good experience for us both, So I
Speaker 1: was really excited. Yeah, well, I mean I feel like
Speaker 1: number one, that kind of has to feel good because
Speaker 1: you're on this like crazy experience that, like we talked
Speaker 1: about earlier, you don't really get to being cocked and
Speaker 1: like touch with anybody's in the outside world, and like
Speaker 1: at least you're going to go home to where you
Speaker 1: kind of feel like some sense of like normalcy and
Speaker 1: like it's also you're stomping ground. So like did you
Speaker 1: think that that was going to kind of allow you
Speaker 1: to well, I don't know, do you feel like you
Speaker 1: were being yourself and able to open up and or
Speaker 1: were you kind of having some walls up still when
Speaker 1: you're I think I think it helped bring some walls down.
Speaker 1: For sure. Felt a lot more comfortable when I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, especially just with some of the guys too,
Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty quiet if I don't really know you.
Speaker 1: So just having the whole group via in Minneapolis, I
Speaker 1: was able to kind of just talk to them about
Speaker 1: cool areas or historically like famous about this spot and
Speaker 1: like just things like that. And once they got there,
Speaker 1: they're really impressed with the city and kind of just
Speaker 1: helped me build form of a connection with some of
Speaker 1: the guys and you know, had them see the place
Speaker 1: that I call home. So I was about to come
Speaker 1: back for sure. Yeah, it's really rare, you know, for
Speaker 1: like the lead and I can tested to be from
Speaker 1: the same hometown, and I feel like that's really an
Speaker 1: advantage for you, Like you know everything around Minneapolis, and
Speaker 1: so I feel like you kind of have the one
Speaker 1: up on everyone. And the fact that well you got
Speaker 1: a one on one with Michelle as soon as you
Speaker 1: got to Minneapolis, so you were like having the time
Speaker 1: of your life. Actually you got to go home, then
Speaker 1: you got to have a one on one. First of all,
Speaker 1: how did it feel for her to call your name
Speaker 1: in front of all the guys the second that you
Speaker 1: saw her. Yeah, that was pretty interesting because we were
Speaker 1: just kind of walking around the city, just stone arch
Speaker 1: and stuff. But they didn't warn us about CM Michelle
Speaker 1: or anything like that. So like come in sweatpants, a
Speaker 1: white tea like super caradual and then like we were
Speaker 1: just walk up and Michelle's there, Um, not really knowing
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And then yeah, she surprises the
Speaker 1: one on one day so that was really cool. Yeah. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's see, I've ever been on the field of
Speaker 1: the Twins games before. No, no, I've never been on
Speaker 1: the field of the Twins game. I thrown out the
Speaker 1: first church, so um, that was a really cool stride
Speaker 1: as well. So, um, like the one one day just
Speaker 1: got betting better and better. Really, I mean, did you
Speaker 1: expect to get a one on one when you were
Speaker 1: there really hanging o we're back in Minnesota. I figured
Speaker 1: i'd probably get a one on one date at some point,
Speaker 1: especially since I hadn't gotten one yet, But I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was going to be right then and there
Speaker 1: in that moment. Yeah. I mean, let me ask you
Speaker 1: at this point, what we're like a couple weeks in. Um,
Speaker 1: you obviously have a connection with Michelle and you guys
Speaker 1: have I've been having like decent conversations and you've gone
Speaker 1: like a group date rows and things like that. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like you needed that one on one time
Speaker 1: soon in order to really make a breakthrough in your relationship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I would want to get it soon,
Speaker 1: sooner than I that's for sure. You know. Like on
Speaker 1: group dates, there's only so much you can really build
Speaker 1: on in that setting with so many other guys with you,
Speaker 1: So just being able to have that one on one
Speaker 1: day it's something that I was really looking forward to.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, you know the fact that we got I
Speaker 1: got that, you know, the first day, and then you know,
Speaker 1: having being something that's like kind of a really cool
Speaker 1: thing to do with. People go to Twins games, they're
Speaker 1: like going to supporting events. So being able to do
Speaker 1: that with her it was really dope. Yeah. Have you
Speaker 1: ever been on a kiss camp before? No, I've never
Speaker 1: been on the kids first time. Yeah, that's pretty epic.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie being was on the field, Michelle
Speaker 1: just threw a pitch and you're on the Kiss Camp.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't only know how else you can
Speaker 1: top a situation like that at a Twins game. But
Speaker 1: I think you made a statement. Okay, kid, you made
Speaker 1: a statement. I feel like what was really cool was
Speaker 1: that you guys went to dinner out of RuSHA that
Speaker 1: you had already been too, is that right? The Fairies? Well,
Speaker 1: and she had never ate that restaurant before. What did
Speaker 1: it feel like to be in your hometown with Michelle,
Speaker 1: did it kind of feel like this is what life
Speaker 1: could be like? Was it pretty surreal for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely sue surreal. Um, you know, having the Frands
Speaker 1: game something that you know people love to do for
Speaker 1: dates or just like um, weekend things, but like going
Speaker 1: on a day to Betty Dangers, it's pretty close to
Speaker 1: where I lived even, and so just doing that just
Speaker 1: felt like real realistic. I mean, this whole experience is
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Um, it's not necessarily always something that you
Speaker 1: could envision continuing, but like being in Minneapolis, going to
Speaker 1: restaurants that we've both been to before, crazy just made
Speaker 1: it feel so much more real. So crazy to me,
Speaker 1: I honestly wish like I had more hometown dates, like
Speaker 1: in my hometown that would have been Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, there's just like another level of it,
Speaker 1: like you just feel so comfortable, and um, did you
Speaker 1: want to show her around? Do you kind of wish
Speaker 1: that you were able to like show her, like let
Speaker 1: me show you like were like I stomped around for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure, there's a lot of spots that I wanted
Speaker 1: to show her. And then some of the guys too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll her, A lot of people talked out
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis and Minnesota, so they didn't really think much
Speaker 1: what's going on over here, you guys think, So, why
Speaker 1: do you think people talked out about it? Because I
Speaker 1: think I don't know, maybe it was Rodney or something,
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, I really just thought Minnesota
Speaker 1: just farmland and stuff like that. I was like so
Speaker 1: much more so, I just think like people in the
Speaker 1: West Coast just don't really have a sense of what's
Speaker 1: going on in the Midwest. On a more serious note, though,
Speaker 1: I will I want to talk about you know you
Speaker 1: guys is one on one in the conversation you guys
Speaker 1: had that evening, um, which I feel like was so
Speaker 1: special and um, I don't know, it just meant a
Speaker 1: lot to like watch you walk through that experience and
Speaker 1: share it with everybody. Have you I mean, I know
Speaker 1: you said you really don't tell with many people about
Speaker 1: you know, your injuries with basketball, and like how it
Speaker 1: affected your life. Did you kind of feel apprehensive to
Speaker 1: sharing that story and how do you feel now that
Speaker 1: you did it? Um? Yeah, I mean anything that I
Speaker 1: don't do, like on a consistent basis, UM kind of
Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous or it's not something I
Speaker 1: usually do. UM, not always comfortable doing that. But you know,
Speaker 1: given Michelle, like we were already um kind of build
Speaker 1: a connection around basketball, and I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that she, um just kind of knew more about me
Speaker 1: and where I you know, kind of kind of been
Speaker 1: through and you know, how it was affected my life
Speaker 1: and how I kind of fought through those injuries and
Speaker 1: how you know, it's tough mentally on somebody who's worked
Speaker 1: so long and so hard on a specific goal and
Speaker 1: then you know it's not necessarily something that they've reached,
Speaker 1: especially after you know, something that was out of their control,
Speaker 1: um and just part of you know, the process of sports.
Speaker 1: So um, that was tough. But I definitely wanted her
Speaker 1: to know that, um, what I was going through and
Speaker 1: that so she could paying a picture of who I
Speaker 1: am as a person too. So I'm happy that I
Speaker 1: was able to open up to her, and because I
Speaker 1: think it was good. Yeah, it must have felt really
Speaker 1: good and really safe to be able to talk to
Speaker 1: someone that can possibly understand what that actually feels like
Speaker 1: when basketball is your life and you know you put
Speaker 1: in so much hard work and effort day in and
Speaker 1: day out, and Michelle's obviously has done that too. So
Speaker 1: did that make it easier for you to feel like
Speaker 1: you can open up to her and talk to her
Speaker 1: about it? Yeah? For sure. I mean if you just
Speaker 1: speak to like a regular person. I never really wanted
Speaker 1: anybody to like feel sorry for me, So just like
Speaker 1: explaining that to somebody who hasn't been through that process
Speaker 1: and that grind, I don't think would really fully understand.
Speaker 1: And so having someone to talk to about that who
Speaker 1: has been through that process, has gone through those hard
Speaker 1: days and those hard nights of practice and conditioning and
Speaker 1: just the whole process of at all made it made
Speaker 1: it really good just to build that deeper connection that
Speaker 1: you know we had together. So yeah, can you talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about you know, because I know
Speaker 1: you talked about like how it was kind of like
Speaker 1: a really dark place in your life and how hard
Speaker 1: that was mentally, Like how how was that journey for you,
Speaker 1: like getting from how you felt then to like now,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not something that happens overnight obviously, Um,
Speaker 1: And you were like how you said you had high
Speaker 1: standards for yourself and when you're doing essentially the same
Speaker 1: exact thing that you were doing a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and it's just not the same. I'm sure that was
Speaker 1: really really really hard on you. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was It was you know, being so I was
Speaker 1: at the university and I transferred all the way to
Speaker 1: Saint Mary, so I had never been away from home before.
Speaker 1: That in itself was pretty difficult for me, being such
Speaker 1: a home body and being so close to my friends
Speaker 1: and family. So that was hard on its own, but
Speaker 1: then kind of having basketball taking away from me at
Speaker 1: that same time, it was what really made it hard
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I didn't have anyone to really
Speaker 1: support me in those moments in person, you know, I
Speaker 1: think Skype was still kind of picking up and like
Speaker 1: we had a little bit of FaceTime, but it's nothing
Speaker 1: like it is now. So I didn't really have that
Speaker 1: many people to reach out to or speak with, and
Speaker 1: I really just felt alone, and so that was difficult,
Speaker 1: and so I knew I was going through a dark
Speaker 1: situation and I wanted to put myself in a better
Speaker 1: position after that. So that's why I ended up transferring
Speaker 1: and just coming back home so we could have that
Speaker 1: support system back around me, which is so so important.
Speaker 1: Especially yeah, when you feel like you're alone, and you
Speaker 1: even said that you questioned, like who am I if
Speaker 1: I don't have this, and like what is my identity?
Speaker 1: And I feel like that is a thing that obviously
Speaker 1: in different forms, but that we all can probably relate
Speaker 1: to and have felt at some point in life when
Speaker 1: something you know as big as an injury or you
Speaker 1: know someone our family passes away, something that kind of
Speaker 1: just like really makes you question that question who am I?
Speaker 1: Is a really scary place to be. And I'm really
Speaker 1: happy that you were able to go back home and
Speaker 1: kind of be surrounded by your family. But injuries are
Speaker 1: so common, like high level athletes. What advice do you
Speaker 1: have for men and women out there who have experienced
Speaker 1: a life changing injury? I would say, you know, trust
Speaker 1: the process. Um, you know it can be really dark,
Speaker 1: tough time. Um, you know injuries can be eight, twelve,
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks. But doing what you have to do every
Speaker 1: single day, knowing that if you would do trust that
Speaker 1: and keep going through that process, you know things will
Speaker 1: work out. But it's it's tough. It's tough. You know,
Speaker 1: you climb up that hill to get back in shape
Speaker 1: or to get your injured leg, foot or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be back and then get injured again and fall
Speaker 1: back down there. Um is tough mentally, so I would
Speaker 1: say just try to trust the process, but also make
Speaker 1: sure your mental is as good as it can be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tough. M. Do you feel as though being surrounded
Speaker 1: by like your friends from back home that kind of
Speaker 1: sped up that process of like kind of feeling like
Speaker 1: alone and getting out of that dark hole? M? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Yeah, my friends and family are
Speaker 1: a big part of my life. I keep a small
Speaker 1: circle still, but those people that are around me are
Speaker 1: the ones that you know, got me to where I
Speaker 1: am today, and so without them, I wouldn't be the
Speaker 1: person that I am. So M just having those like
Speaker 1: good support systems around you is what, you know, really
Speaker 1: helped me, and you know, I'm really grateful for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, like my injury doesn't necessarily compare because running
Speaker 1: wasn't something that like I was like striving to be
Speaker 1: an Olympian or anything like that. But I ran in
Speaker 1: high school and I was planning on running in college,
Speaker 1: and as a freshman in college, I actually was on
Speaker 1: my first week as a freshman in college, I was
Speaker 1: actually ran over by a truck and it completely fractured
Speaker 1: my pelvis, and like it was the craziest feeling. So
Speaker 1: like I know what you kind of mean and when
Speaker 1: you're saying like something just gets taken away kind of
Speaker 1: in an instant and trying to rebuild that especially for me,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even walk, so I had to really
Speaker 1: learn how to walk. So it's like something like that.
Speaker 1: It's tough to I don't know, just not how everybody
Speaker 1: feel like sorry for me, Like I'm already going through
Speaker 1: enough right now. I'm like trying to, like you know,
Speaker 1: find your new groove with everything. Like it's a very
Speaker 1: it's a very tough place to be. And I remember
Speaker 1: like I had to like stay home. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: I had months of schooling that was like taken away
Speaker 1: and that was like behind everybody. It was just like
Speaker 1: it was a mess. But UM, I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you mean by um just need to be surrounded by
Speaker 1: your your loved ones. And UM, I'm sorry, were you
Speaker 1: in like a body cast? Like how was the recovery? Um? Truthfully,
Speaker 1: there's no surgery for a fractured pelvis, so like it's
Speaker 1: I had very attractive I actually had a walker. Um,
Speaker 1: and I that's it. I just kind of had to
Speaker 1: like do physical therapy every single day. I had to
Speaker 1: relearn how to walk like I like I said, back
Speaker 1: in the hospital, and um, I had to move dorm
Speaker 1: rooms all of stuff, so I couldn't walk upstairs anymore.
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't walk far, so I couldn't walk to
Speaker 1: classrooms and things like that. It was just it was tough.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was kind of just having um, what's
Speaker 1: it called crutches and a walker and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like limping around and being at a school for about
Speaker 1: three and a half four months. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get what that kind of like pain can
Speaker 1: do to your mental state. Um, but again not to
Speaker 1: the level of, like you know, I don't know, having
Speaker 1: that be like your full identity. You know, that's toff.
Speaker 1: Um let's see. Um, I don't know, I don't even
Speaker 1: know where to go from that because it's so heavy.
Speaker 1: But I just want to say like thank you for
Speaker 1: being able to like open up because they feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of people have gone through injuries like this,
Speaker 1: like in college. It's very very common. And um, I
Speaker 1: think your story on you know, the bachelor is something
Speaker 1: that a lot of people can resonate with. And now
Speaker 1: seeing you now being able to still be like playing
Speaker 1: basketball and um being as happy as you are, like,
Speaker 1: it's it's really it's really sweet and I'm happy you
Speaker 1: did it, so thank you. Um, if you could have
Speaker 1: planned the perfect one on one day in Minneapolis, what
Speaker 1: would have been curse one on one day? Let's see?
Speaker 1: Um for sure m h, I guess I probably would
Speaker 1: do like probably wouldn't be TV acceptable with like a movie.
Speaker 1: I mean for us to go see a movie, a
Speaker 1: movie dinner, but like um, like maybe a dinner on
Speaker 1: like Saint Anthony Maine or on the stone arch during
Speaker 1: like the sunset or something like that. Okay, here, let
Speaker 1: me romanticize it for you. How about we like do
Speaker 1: like a projector Yeah, how about a projector projector outside
Speaker 1: come on now and then you got popcorn beach with
Speaker 1: a popcorn with some plush little like couches lanterns everywhere
Speaker 1: on underneath the stars, overlooking city exact. Probably go to
Speaker 1: a boom island. I know the perfect spot. See see
Speaker 1: so yeah you have I can help you with this stuff,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, Well that would have
Speaker 1: been really really cool. Um, okay, so movies. So you're
Speaker 1: a simple guy. I like that. I like that at
Speaker 1: least it's something like crazy. Um, you know crazy. It
Speaker 1: is kind of like something that Chris s would do,
Speaker 1: like showing up at a one on one day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. I'd love to know your thoughts about
Speaker 1: the drama with Chris as. Where do we start? You
Speaker 1: literally just picked up your wattle bottle and taking a
Speaker 1: swig because you okay, gather yourself, gather your thoughts. Tell
Speaker 1: me about your thoughts. I just want to know. I
Speaker 1: think with Chris As, he what he was trying to
Speaker 1: do was coming from a good place. But I think
Speaker 1: how you did it and what you said was not
Speaker 1: the right thing to say. Are you talking about the
Speaker 1: outbursts at the cocktail party, the kind of about the
Speaker 1: whole Nate thing. Yeah, I like saying that guys had
Speaker 1: it in the bag because no one has ever said
Speaker 1: that in the house. Yeah, but I think just the
Speaker 1: way he said it, and you know, how I came
Speaker 1: across was definitely not the way he should have. Um,
Speaker 1: And I told him I've been in there. In that
Speaker 1: moment I got up, I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why would you say that? Because
Speaker 1: I was like, no one's ever said that. Um, but
Speaker 1: I mean he must have heard some things that I
Speaker 1: didn't hear. So um but as far as as that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I told him that wasn't a good. Look.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about him crashing Nates one on one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why that's pretty crazy. I don't know. That was
Speaker 1: a really bad idea. I don't know, like you can't
Speaker 1: really twist that any other way. That should not have
Speaker 1: been done. I would have been really upset if it
Speaker 1: was my Well, look, I was saying this at the earlier,
Speaker 1: like earlier on the episode. Um, there's just a way
Speaker 1: to go about making your voice be heard and kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, warning if you are quote unquote
Speaker 1: warning the lead about people. But it's definitely not crashing
Speaker 1: a one on one day. Um, And I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, like really that Okay, let me ask you,
Speaker 1: because you're a guy, maybe you can try to like
Speaker 1: enlighten me what was going through his head? What did
Speaker 1: Chris asked, really think was going to happen? Liked, did
Speaker 1: he really think that like Michelle would have been like Chris,
Speaker 1: you are right, I'm gonna leave Nate and like leave
Speaker 1: the one on one and then like go back with
Speaker 1: him back to the hotel. There's there's no situation, right.
Speaker 1: I think that like would go smoothly for Chris doing that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what you think. Con
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really trying to give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt here, But I just don't know what
Speaker 1: he was thinking. And then instead he got himself sent home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think did you see that coming. I
Speaker 1: feel like he might have been like, all right, this
Speaker 1: is just the last straw. He might have been in
Speaker 1: a different mental space where he was like, if I
Speaker 1: get sent on at home. So did you have any
Speaker 1: idea that he was going to do that, because you
Speaker 1: guys were all back up the hub, you know. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean we had talked like a group chat setting.
Speaker 1: Um we're like he had mentioned or some of the
Speaker 1: guys that said that, like she called him out about
Speaker 1: not practicing what he preaches or something like that. I
Speaker 1: think he got a little frustrated about that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they led into crash in the days.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. It was a shock.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it was a shock to me
Speaker 1: that Michelle sent him home as soon as she did,
Speaker 1: just because well, I guess the whole thing was a
Speaker 1: shock to me. But did you think he was going
Speaker 1: to go home that night? Well, I just knew he
Speaker 1: wasn't around, so I like, see what it was happening.
Speaker 1: But I figured like something wasn't nothing good was going
Speaker 1: to happen. So I had a feeling like this that
Speaker 1: might be the last time I saw christas Oh god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Well look that's as much as you know,
Speaker 1: that might be the end of the road for Chris ass.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's still lots to come, um here
Speaker 1: in the next few episodes. Um, could you be able
Speaker 1: to give us a one sentence teaser of what's to
Speaker 1: come in the season? One sentenced teaser? Uh, something that's
Speaker 1: never happened before. You think, oh, that's a teaser. Okay,
Speaker 1: something it's never happened before is going to happen soon.
Speaker 1: M I think that's pretty good. Okay, Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if that's you with you
Speaker 1: or if that if that's what somebody else. But I'm
Speaker 1: very no, No, you're vot almostly. I mean I was
Speaker 1: there and I'm still I'm I'm interested, I'm excited. Um okay, Well,
Speaker 1: the other thing that we usually ask our guests, um
Speaker 1: that are on the episode is what is your rose
Speaker 1: and your thorn? So what was your rose and thorn
Speaker 1: of your journey thus far? Rose? Yeah, finally meeting Michelle
Speaker 1: for sure, okay, um and the thorn probably the late nights,
Speaker 1: so very long late nights that I was not ready for,
Speaker 1: especially with like the time difference, so like when we're
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs, it's really like two hours later for
Speaker 1: me because what I was used to in the center
Speaker 1: right right right, you know, Joe, I have to say,
Speaker 1: you've realized you may not have ever had to do
Speaker 1: all of this, Um, had you have DMed the girl back?
Speaker 1: Just putting it out there? Um, well, it's just because
Speaker 1: you guys, little one date was really really cute, and
Speaker 1: I feel like there is you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: chemistry there and I don't know, I saw like something
Speaker 1: special there. So just saying maybe y'all, should you know
Speaker 1: DM people back when they reach out? True? Or maybe
Speaker 1: this was just how it was meant to be. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's true too. That's true too. Okay, So I want
Speaker 1: to play a little game with you. It's just gonna
Speaker 1: be like a rapid fire game. We're going to give
Speaker 1: you a most likely too, and you'll finish this sentence
Speaker 1: with the name of someone from Michelle's group of guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: are you ready right? Okay? Most likely to get the
Speaker 1: party started, mate, Oh, okay. Most likely to start the
Speaker 1: drama Peter and jameson. Most likely to be there when
Speaker 1: you needed them ran Oh. Most likely to forget their
Speaker 1: wallet at home. Oh that's me. We ain't going out
Speaker 1: on today. Okay, you're not allowed to take anybody out.
Speaker 1: Most likely to get the guys laughing all Rodney for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Most likely to be last picked for a game of
Speaker 1: basketball party. Wow. Wow, come on, I'm sorry. He made
Speaker 1: an incredible shot. You have to adva he did. He did,
Speaker 1: he did, and it was his first shot, his one
Speaker 1: and only, but it was a glory shot. Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: that was savage. Okay. Most likely to cheat to win
Speaker 1: a group date. See so during the Teddy Bear fight,
Speaker 1: we had rules that were set no like like no hitting,
Speaker 1: and Clayton caught me with a fist a fist of
Speaker 1: the face, and so I'm just gonna say that. I
Speaker 1: feel like Counts is cheating for that game, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Clayton. Wow, all right, let's see. Most
Speaker 1: likely to be a groomsman in your wedding. See. Oh see,
Speaker 1: me and Leroy got a really good connection when we
Speaker 1: were here in Minneapolis. Yeah, and he's super fresh, so
Speaker 1: i'd like Leroy. He's made it in. Okay. Most likely
Speaker 1: to steal Michelle first at a cocktail party h Martin. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. Most likely to skinny dip in a pool.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, thank well. Really everyone's been saying you for
Speaker 1: this one. It's a skinny dip. Yeah, I'm kidding. I
Speaker 1: was about to say, idea, Okay, that's so funny. Most
Speaker 1: likely to go to bed first that probably. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think everyone's been saying you for this. I was sleeping
Speaker 1: a lot, for sure. We are you. Okay, it is
Speaker 1: the late night I just got it, got it, okay.
Speaker 1: Most likely to actually beat you in a game of
Speaker 1: one on one to beat me, yeah, you know one, okay,
Speaker 1: except for Michelle, except for Michelle. Okay, yeah, all right, well, Joe,
Speaker 1: it was so fun to talk to you. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for stopping by, and I'm sure this will
Speaker 1: not be the last time we speak. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me. I really appreciate it absolutely all right, guys, Well,
Speaker 1: that was fun having Joe on, and thank you so
Speaker 1: much for submitting some fan questions earlier today. That is
Speaker 1: all we have for you, so thank you so much
Speaker 1: to our Happy Hour listeners, as well as thank you
Speaker 1: Joe for being here. We are casting for the upcoming
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