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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Guess what, it's just your GRLTAIA.

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Speaker 1: This week Becca is out. Okay, but don't you worry,

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Speaker 1: because I'm here to talk about everything from last night's

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Speaker 1: episode and even to answer some of you guys is

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Speaker 1: juicy questions that you guys have submitted. But also we

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Speaker 1: have mister Basketball himself joining me to talk about his

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Speaker 1: one on one that just so happened to take place

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Speaker 1: in his hometown of Minnesota, and so much more. There

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Speaker 1: were some things that happened this week in the episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily just I got secondhand embarrassment,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just felt so bad for Chriss. Chris

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Speaker 1: s that man. I feel like he was starting to

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Speaker 1: spiral out of control, and like we kind of all

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Speaker 1: saw it coming. I wonder if he saw it coming

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Speaker 1: or if he felt it. His demeanor was off, his

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Speaker 1: energy was just off, and sure enough, in true Bachelor fashion,

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Speaker 1: when people start to spy a lot of control, well

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Speaker 1: that means the end is near, unfortunately, and Chris decided

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Speaker 1: to take it into his own hands to quote unquote

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Speaker 1: show up. Like Michelle has asked, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: she necessarily meant it in this way, especially on a

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Speaker 1: But he showed up all right, and she said audios.

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Speaker 1: I think at this point I just really loved that.

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Speaker 1: Michelle was like, look, I need somebody to have my back,

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Speaker 1: but lets me speak. I don't need to be spoken for.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I feel extremely empowered when I when I'm speaking,

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Speaker 1: can just have my back with whatever I say and

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Speaker 1: allows me to make my own judgments and decisions on

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Speaker 1: my own. And with that said, my judgment is your

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Speaker 1: judgment day, sir, and you're gonna go home. So ah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he necessarily saw that one coming,

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Speaker 1: or I don't know what he was thinking was going

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Speaker 1: to happen, why he was going to save the day.

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Speaker 1: She's going to stop her date with Nate and go

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Speaker 1: back home with him. Just you know, a role of

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Speaker 1: advice for everybody out there, if you ever decide to

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Speaker 1: make your a little sweet way onto the Bachelor bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: don't do this. Okay. I know it sounds like a

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Speaker 1: There's another way to go about it and it ain't

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Speaker 1: it like that, So that was I think it was

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Speaker 1: time for Chris asked to say goodbye. Unfortunately, I feel

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Speaker 1: like he really didn't have fun on the Viking date.

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Speaker 1: Which the Viking date, Can we talk about that for

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Speaker 1: a second. I may have sent myself home on that

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Speaker 1: date because truthfully, the thing that they were eating a

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Speaker 1: raw fish, I mean brandan bit into that fish, and

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Speaker 1: I swear I saw juice guts spitting out, and literally

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Speaker 1: Rodney is so funny. It was like you say it crunchy.

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Speaker 1: It was I could not stop laughing. Rodney kills me. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So this week's episode was really good. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I really loved Nate's went on. One day. Michelle was

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Speaker 1: and I feel like she really grew in a relationship

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Speaker 1: with Joe, which I cannot wait to have him here

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Speaker 1: on the episode today. He's coming any minute now and

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Speaker 1: we'll just deep dive with that with him. But until then,

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Speaker 1: we have some fan questions to answer. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: y'all have submitted, shall we? What is the best part

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Speaker 1: of co hosting the bachelort. Well, number one, the pressure

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Speaker 1: is not on me, so I just got to kind

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Speaker 1: and really admire like the love and how much you

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Speaker 1: watch all of these individuals grow from Afar, Like, I

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Speaker 1: really seeing that from night one to like the finish,

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Speaker 1: it's just like the waves of emotions and and and

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Speaker 1: I would have smoked yell, just kidding. Humble, humble, stay humble. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I would love to do this with Becca Um pretty

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Speaker 1: was fun. But without further ado, it is time to

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Speaker 1: bring on our guest Joe mister basketball himself. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour. Hi Joe, good, how are you Minnesota?

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Speaker 1: But is it cold? How cold is it? Let's have

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, okay for sure. But first off,

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Speaker 1: mister basketball, Minnesota, how are you? How are you doing good?

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Speaker 1: Been really good? Um? Yeah, this has been a really

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Speaker 1: it's been fun. Has it been fun watching yourself back? Oh? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've never really liked listening to my own voice,

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Speaker 1: and like it's fun watching It's fun watching the things

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Speaker 1: So that's been absolutely I have to say, watching myself

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Speaker 1: cool areas or historically like famous about this spot and

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00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: like just things like that. And once they got there,

427
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: they're really impressed with the city and kind of just

428
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: helped me build form of a connection with some of

429
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: the guys and you know, had them see the place

430
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: that I call home. So I was about to come

431
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: back for sure. Yeah, it's really rare, you know, for

432
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: like the lead and I can tested to be from

433
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: the same hometown, and I feel like that's really an

434
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: advantage for you, Like you know everything around Minneapolis, and

435
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: so I feel like you kind of have the one

436
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: up on everyone. And the fact that well you got

437
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: a one on one with Michelle as soon as you

438
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: got to Minneapolis, so you were like having the time

439
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: of your life. Actually you got to go home, then

440
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: you got to have a one on one. First of all,

441
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: how did it feel for her to call your name

442
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: in front of all the guys the second that you

443
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: saw her. Yeah, that was pretty interesting because we were

444
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 1: just kind of walking around the city, just stone arch

445
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: and stuff. But they didn't warn us about CM Michelle

446
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: or anything like that. So like come in sweatpants, a

447
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: white tea like super caradual and then like we were

448
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: just walk up and Michelle's there, Um, not really knowing

449
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And then yeah, she surprises the

450
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: one on one day so that was really cool. Yeah. Um, okay,

451
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: so let's see, I've ever been on the field of

452
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: the Twins games before. No, no, I've never been on

453
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: the field of the Twins game. I thrown out the

454
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: first church, so um, that was a really cool stride

455
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: as well. So, um, like the one one day just

456
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: got betting better and better. Really, I mean, did you

457
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: expect to get a one on one when you were

458
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: there really hanging o we're back in Minnesota. I figured

459
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: i'd probably get a one on one date at some point,

460
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: especially since I hadn't gotten one yet, But I didn't

461
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: think it was going to be right then and there

462
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: in that moment. Yeah. I mean, let me ask you

463
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: at this point, what we're like a couple weeks in. Um,

464
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: you obviously have a connection with Michelle and you guys

465
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: have I've been having like decent conversations and you've gone

466
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: like a group date rows and things like that. Did

467
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: you feel like you needed that one on one time

468
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: soon in order to really make a breakthrough in your relationship? Yeah,

469
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I would want to get it soon,

470
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: sooner than I that's for sure. You know. Like on

471
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: group dates, there's only so much you can really build

472
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: on in that setting with so many other guys with you,

473
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: So just being able to have that one on one

474
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: day it's something that I was really looking forward to.

475
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: M Yeah, you know the fact that we got I

476
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: got that, you know, the first day, and then you know,

477
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: having being something that's like kind of a really cool

478
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: thing to do with. People go to Twins games, they're

479
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: like going to supporting events. So being able to do

480
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: that with her it was really dope. Yeah. Have you

481
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: ever been on a kiss camp before? No, I've never

482
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: been on the kids first time. Yeah, that's pretty epic.

483
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie being was on the field, Michelle

484
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: just threw a pitch and you're on the Kiss Camp.

485
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't only know how else you can

486
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: top a situation like that at a Twins game. But

487
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: I think you made a statement. Okay, kid, you made

488
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: a statement. I feel like what was really cool was

489
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: that you guys went to dinner out of RuSHA that

490
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: you had already been too, is that right? The Fairies? Well,

491
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: and she had never ate that restaurant before. What did

492
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: it feel like to be in your hometown with Michelle,

493
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: did it kind of feel like this is what life

494
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: could be like? Was it pretty surreal for you? Yeah,

495
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: it's definitely sue surreal. Um, you know, having the Frands

496
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: game something that you know people love to do for

497
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: dates or just like um, weekend things, but like going

498
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: on a day to Betty Dangers, it's pretty close to

499
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: where I lived even, and so just doing that just

500
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: felt like real realistic. I mean, this whole experience is

501
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Um, it's not necessarily always something that you

502
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: could envision continuing, but like being in Minneapolis, going to

503
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: restaurants that we've both been to before, crazy just made

504
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: it feel so much more real. So crazy to me,

505
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: I honestly wish like I had more hometown dates, like

506
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: in my hometown that would have been Yeah. I mean,

507
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: like I don't know, there's just like another level of it,

508
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: like you just feel so comfortable, and um, did you

509
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: want to show her around? Do you kind of wish

510
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: that you were able to like show her, like let

511
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: me show you like were like I stomped around for sure.

512
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: For sure, there's a lot of spots that I wanted

513
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: to show her. And then some of the guys too.

514
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll her, A lot of people talked out

515
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis and Minnesota, so they didn't really think much

516
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: what's going on over here, you guys think, So, why

517
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: do you think people talked out about it? Because I

518
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: think I don't know, maybe it was Rodney or something,

519
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, I really just thought Minnesota

520
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: just farmland and stuff like that. I was like so

521
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: much more so, I just think like people in the

522
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: West Coast just don't really have a sense of what's

523
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: going on in the Midwest. On a more serious note, though,

524
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: I will I want to talk about you know you

525
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: guys is one on one in the conversation you guys

526
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: had that evening, um, which I feel like was so

527
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: special and um, I don't know, it just meant a

528
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: lot to like watch you walk through that experience and

529
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: share it with everybody. Have you I mean, I know

530
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: you said you really don't tell with many people about

531
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, your injuries with basketball, and like how it

532
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: affected your life. Did you kind of feel apprehensive to

533
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: sharing that story and how do you feel now that

534
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: you did it? Um? Yeah, I mean anything that I

535
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: don't do, like on a consistent basis, UM kind of

536
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous or it's not something I

537
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: usually do. UM, not always comfortable doing that. But you know,

538
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: given Michelle, like we were already um kind of build

539
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: a connection around basketball, and I wanted to make sure

540
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: that she, um just kind of knew more about me

541
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: and where I you know, kind of kind of been

542
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: through and you know, how it was affected my life

543
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: and how I kind of fought through those injuries and

544
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: how you know, it's tough mentally on somebody who's worked

545
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: so long and so hard on a specific goal and

546
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: then you know it's not necessarily something that they've reached,

547
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: especially after you know, something that was out of their control,

548
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: um and just part of you know, the process of sports.

549
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: So um, that was tough. But I definitely wanted her

550
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: to know that, um, what I was going through and

551
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: that so she could paying a picture of who I

552
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: am as a person too. So I'm happy that I

553
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: was able to open up to her, and because I

554
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: think it was good. Yeah, it must have felt really

555
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: good and really safe to be able to talk to

556
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: someone that can possibly understand what that actually feels like

557
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: when basketball is your life and you know you put

558
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: in so much hard work and effort day in and

559
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: day out, and Michelle's obviously has done that too. So

560
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: did that make it easier for you to feel like

561
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: you can open up to her and talk to her

562
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: about it? Yeah? For sure. I mean if you just

563
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: speak to like a regular person. I never really wanted

564
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: anybody to like feel sorry for me, So just like

565
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: explaining that to somebody who hasn't been through that process

566
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: and that grind, I don't think would really fully understand.

567
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: And so having someone to talk to about that who

568
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: has been through that process, has gone through those hard

569
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: days and those hard nights of practice and conditioning and

570
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: just the whole process of at all made it made

571
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: it really good just to build that deeper connection that

572
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: you know we had together. So yeah, can you talk

573
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more about you know, because I know

574
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: you talked about like how it was kind of like

575
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: a really dark place in your life and how hard

576
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: that was mentally, Like how how was that journey for you,

577
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: like getting from how you felt then to like now,

578
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not something that happens overnight obviously, Um,

579
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: And you were like how you said you had high

580
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: standards for yourself and when you're doing essentially the same

581
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: exact thing that you were doing a couple of weeks ago,

582
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: and it's just not the same. I'm sure that was

583
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: really really really hard on you. Yeah, yeah, it was.

584
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: It was It was you know, being so I was

585
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: at the university and I transferred all the way to

586
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Saint Mary, so I had never been away from home before.

587
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: That in itself was pretty difficult for me, being such

588
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: a home body and being so close to my friends

589
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: and family. So that was hard on its own, but

590
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: then kind of having basketball taking away from me at

591
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: that same time, it was what really made it hard

592
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I didn't have anyone to really

593
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: support me in those moments in person, you know, I

594
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: think Skype was still kind of picking up and like

595
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: we had a little bit of FaceTime, but it's nothing

596
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: like it is now. So I didn't really have that

597
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: many people to reach out to or speak with, and

598
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I really just felt alone, and so that was difficult,

599
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: and so I knew I was going through a dark

600
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: situation and I wanted to put myself in a better

601
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: position after that. So that's why I ended up transferring

602
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: and just coming back home so we could have that

603
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: support system back around me, which is so so important.

604
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: Especially yeah, when you feel like you're alone, and you

605
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: even said that you questioned, like who am I if

606
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't have this, and like what is my identity?

607
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: And I feel like that is a thing that obviously

608
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: in different forms, but that we all can probably relate

609
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: to and have felt at some point in life when

610
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: something you know as big as an injury or you

611
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: know someone our family passes away, something that kind of

612
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: just like really makes you question that question who am I?

613
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Is a really scary place to be. And I'm really

614
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: happy that you were able to go back home and

615
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of be surrounded by your family. But injuries are

616
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: so common, like high level athletes. What advice do you

617
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: have for men and women out there who have experienced

618
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: a life changing injury? I would say, you know, trust

619
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: the process. Um, you know it can be really dark,

620
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: tough time. Um, you know injuries can be eight, twelve,

621
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks. But doing what you have to do every

622
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: single day, knowing that if you would do trust that

623
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: and keep going through that process, you know things will

624
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: work out. But it's it's tough. It's tough. You know,

625
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: you climb up that hill to get back in shape

626
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: or to get your injured leg, foot or whatever it

627
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: may be back and then get injured again and fall

628
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: back down there. Um is tough mentally, so I would

629
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: say just try to trust the process, but also make

630
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: sure your mental is as good as it can be. Yeah,

631
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: it's tough. M. Do you feel as though being surrounded

632
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: by like your friends from back home that kind of

633
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: sped up that process of like kind of feeling like

634
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: alone and getting out of that dark hole? M? Yeah,

635
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Yeah, my friends and family are

636
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: a big part of my life. I keep a small

637
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: circle still, but those people that are around me are

638
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: the ones that you know, got me to where I

639
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: am today, and so without them, I wouldn't be the

640
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: person that I am. So M just having those like

641
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: good support systems around you is what, you know, really

642
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: helped me, and you know, I'm really grateful for it.

643
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like my injury doesn't necessarily compare because running

644
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: wasn't something that like I was like striving to be

645
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: an Olympian or anything like that. But I ran in

646
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: high school and I was planning on running in college,

647
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: and as a freshman in college, I actually was on

648
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: my first week as a freshman in college, I was

649
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: actually ran over by a truck and it completely fractured

650
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: my pelvis, and like it was the craziest feeling. So

651
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: like I know what you kind of mean and when

652
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: you're saying like something just gets taken away kind of

653
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: in an instant and trying to rebuild that especially for me,

654
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't even walk, so I had to really

655
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: learn how to walk. So it's like something like that.

656
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: It's tough to I don't know, just not how everybody

657
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: feel like sorry for me, Like I'm already going through

658
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: enough right now. I'm like trying to, like you know,

659
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: find your new groove with everything. Like it's a very

660
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: it's a very tough place to be. And I remember

661
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: like I had to like stay home. I couldn't even

662
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: I had months of schooling that was like taken away

663
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: and that was like behind everybody. It was just like

664
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: it was a mess. But UM, I know exactly what

665
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: you mean by um just need to be surrounded by

666
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: your your loved ones. And UM, I'm sorry, were you

667
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: in like a body cast? Like how was the recovery? Um? Truthfully,

668
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 1: there's no surgery for a fractured pelvis, so like it's

669
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: I had very attractive I actually had a walker. Um,

670
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: and I that's it. I just kind of had to

671
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: like do physical therapy every single day. I had to

672
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: relearn how to walk like I like I said, back

673
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: in the hospital, and um, I had to move dorm

674
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: rooms all of stuff, so I couldn't walk upstairs anymore.

675
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't walk far, so I couldn't walk to

676
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: classrooms and things like that. It was just it was tough.

677
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was kind of just having um, what's

678
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: it called crutches and a walker and it's kind of

679
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: like limping around and being at a school for about

680
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: three and a half four months. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah,

681
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: so I get what that kind of like pain can

682
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: do to your mental state. Um, but again not to

683
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: the level of, like you know, I don't know, having

684
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: that be like your full identity. You know, that's toff.

685
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Um let's see. Um, I don't know, I don't even

686
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: know where to go from that because it's so heavy.

687
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: But I just want to say like thank you for

688
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: being able to like open up because they feel like

689
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people have gone through injuries like this,

690
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: like in college. It's very very common. And um, I

691
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: think your story on you know, the bachelor is something

692
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: that a lot of people can resonate with. And now

693
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: seeing you now being able to still be like playing

694
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: basketball and um being as happy as you are, like,

695
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: it's it's really it's really sweet and I'm happy you

696
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: did it, so thank you. Um, if you could have

697
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: planned the perfect one on one day in Minneapolis, what

698
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: would have been curse one on one day? Let's see?

699
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: Um for sure m h, I guess I probably would

700
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: do like probably wouldn't be TV acceptable with like a movie.

701
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean for us to go see a movie, a

702
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: movie dinner, but like um, like maybe a dinner on

703
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: like Saint Anthony Maine or on the stone arch during

704
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: like the sunset or something like that. Okay, here, let

705
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: me romanticize it for you. How about we like do

706
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: like a projector Yeah, how about a projector projector outside

707
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: come on now and then you got popcorn beach with

708
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: a popcorn with some plush little like couches lanterns everywhere

709
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: on underneath the stars, overlooking city exact. Probably go to

710
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: a boom island. I know the perfect spot. See see

711
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: so yeah you have I can help you with this stuff,

712
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, Well that would have

713
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: been really really cool. Um, okay, so movies. So you're

714
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: a simple guy. I like that. I like that at

715
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: least it's something like crazy. Um, you know crazy. It

716
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: is kind of like something that Chris s would do,

717
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: like showing up at a one on one day. Yeah,

718
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. I'd love to know your thoughts about

719
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: the drama with Chris as. Where do we start? You

720
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: literally just picked up your wattle bottle and taking a

721
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: swig because you okay, gather yourself, gather your thoughts. Tell

722
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: me about your thoughts. I just want to know. I

723
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: think with Chris As, he what he was trying to

724
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: do was coming from a good place. But I think

725
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: how you did it and what you said was not

726
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: the right thing to say. Are you talking about the

727
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: outbursts at the cocktail party, the kind of about the

728
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: whole Nate thing. Yeah, I like saying that guys had

729
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: it in the bag because no one has ever said

730
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: that in the house. Yeah, but I think just the

731
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: way he said it, and you know, how I came

732
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: across was definitely not the way he should have. Um,

733
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: And I told him I've been in there. In that

734
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: moment I got up, I was like, what are you doing?

735
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why would you say that? Because

736
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: I was like, no one's ever said that. Um, but

737
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean he must have heard some things that I

738
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: didn't hear. So um but as far as as that, yeah,

739
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't I told him that wasn't a good. Look.

740
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about him crashing Nates one on one? Yeah,

741
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: that's why that's pretty crazy. I don't know. That was

742
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: a really bad idea. I don't know, like you can't

743
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: really twist that any other way. That should not have

744
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: been done. I would have been really upset if it

745
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: was my Well, look, I was saying this at the earlier,

746
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: like earlier on the episode. Um, there's just a way

747
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: to go about making your voice be heard and kind

748
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: of like, you know, warning if you are quote unquote

749
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: warning the lead about people. But it's definitely not crashing

750
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: a one on one day. Um, And I'm not quite sure.

751
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like really that Okay, let me ask you,

752
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: because you're a guy, maybe you can try to like

753
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: enlighten me what was going through his head? What did

754
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Chris asked, really think was going to happen? Liked, did

755
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: he really think that like Michelle would have been like Chris,

756
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: you are right, I'm gonna leave Nate and like leave

757
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: the one on one and then like go back with

758
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: him back to the hotel. There's there's no situation, right.

759
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: I think that like would go smoothly for Chris doing that.

760
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what you think. Con

761
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really trying to give him the benefit

762
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: of the doubt here, But I just don't know what

763
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: he was thinking. And then instead he got himself sent home. Yeah,

764
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think did you see that coming. I

765
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: feel like he might have been like, all right, this

766
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: is just the last straw. He might have been in

767
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: a different mental space where he was like, if I

768
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: get sent on at home. So did you have any

769
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: idea that he was going to do that, because you

770
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: guys were all back up the hub, you know. Yeah, No,

771
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean we had talked like a group chat setting.

772
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: Um we're like he had mentioned or some of the

773
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: guys that said that, like she called him out about

774
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: not practicing what he preaches or something like that. I

775
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: think he got a little frustrated about that. I don't know.

776
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: I think that's what they led into crash in the days.

777
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. It was a shock.

778
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it was a shock to me

779
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: that Michelle sent him home as soon as she did,

780
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: just because well, I guess the whole thing was a

781
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: shock to me. But did you think he was going

782
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: to go home that night? Well, I just knew he

783
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: wasn't around, so I like, see what it was happening.

784
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: But I figured like something wasn't nothing good was going

785
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: to happen. So I had a feeling like this that

786
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: might be the last time I saw christas Oh god,

787
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: oh my god. Well look that's as much as you know,

788
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: that might be the end of the road for Chris ass.

789
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: I feel like there's still lots to come, um here

790
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: in the next few episodes. Um, could you be able

791
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: to give us a one sentence teaser of what's to

792
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: come in the season? One sentenced teaser? Uh, something that's

793
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: never happened before. You think, oh, that's a teaser. Okay,

794
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: something it's never happened before is going to happen soon.

795
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: M I think that's pretty good. Okay, Well, I don't

796
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if that's you with you

797
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: or if that if that's what somebody else. But I'm

798
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: very no, No, you're vot almostly. I mean I was

799
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: there and I'm still I'm I'm interested, I'm excited. Um okay, Well,

800
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: the other thing that we usually ask our guests, um

801
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: that are on the episode is what is your rose

802
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: and your thorn? So what was your rose and thorn

803
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: of your journey thus far? Rose? Yeah, finally meeting Michelle

804
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: for sure, okay, um and the thorn probably the late nights,

805
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: so very long late nights that I was not ready for,

806
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: especially with like the time difference, so like when we're

807
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs, it's really like two hours later for

808
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: me because what I was used to in the center

809
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: right right right, you know, Joe, I have to say,

810
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: you've realized you may not have ever had to do

811
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: all of this, Um, had you have DMed the girl back?

812
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: Just putting it out there? Um, well, it's just because

813
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: you guys, little one date was really really cute, and

814
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: I feel like there is you know, a lot of

815
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: chemistry there and I don't know, I saw like something

816
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: special there. So just saying maybe y'all, should you know

817
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: DM people back when they reach out? True? Or maybe

818
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: this was just how it was meant to be. Oh,

819
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: that's true too. That's true too. Okay, So I want

820
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: to play a little game with you. It's just gonna

821
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: be like a rapid fire game. We're going to give

822
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: you a most likely too, and you'll finish this sentence

823
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: with the name of someone from Michelle's group of guys. Okay,

824
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: are you ready right? Okay? Most likely to get the

825
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: party started, mate, Oh, okay. Most likely to start the

826
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: drama Peter and jameson. Most likely to be there when

827
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: you needed them ran Oh. Most likely to forget their

828
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: wallet at home. Oh that's me. We ain't going out

829
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: on today. Okay, you're not allowed to take anybody out.

830
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: Most likely to get the guys laughing all Rodney for sure. Yeah.

831
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Most likely to be last picked for a game of

832
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: basketball party. Wow. Wow, come on, I'm sorry. He made

833
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: an incredible shot. You have to adva he did. He did,

834
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: he did, and it was his first shot, his one

835
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: and only, but it was a glory shot. Okay, uh,

836
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: that was savage. Okay. Most likely to cheat to win

837
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: a group date. See so during the Teddy Bear fight,

838
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: we had rules that were set no like like no hitting,

839
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: and Clayton caught me with a fist a fist of

840
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: the face, and so I'm just gonna say that. I

841
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: feel like Counts is cheating for that game, so I'm

842
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: gonna go with Clayton. Wow, all right, let's see. Most

843
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: likely to be a groomsman in your wedding. See. Oh see,

844
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: me and Leroy got a really good connection when we

845
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: were here in Minneapolis. Yeah, and he's super fresh, so

846
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: i'd like Leroy. He's made it in. Okay. Most likely

847
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: to steal Michelle first at a cocktail party h Martin. Oh, okay,

848
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 1: that's good. Most likely to skinny dip in a pool.

849
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, thank well. Really everyone's been saying you for

850
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: this one. It's a skinny dip. Yeah, I'm kidding. I

851
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: was about to say, idea, Okay, that's so funny. Most

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Speaker 1: likely to go to bed first that probably. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think everyone's been saying you for this. I was sleeping

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Speaker 1: a lot, for sure. We are you. Okay, it is

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Speaker 1: the late night I just got it, got it, okay.

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Speaker 1: Most likely to actually beat you in a game of

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Speaker 1: one on one to beat me, yeah, you know one, okay,

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Speaker 1: except for Michelle, except for Michelle. Okay, yeah, all right, well, Joe,

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Speaker 1: it was so fun to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for stopping by, and I'm sure this will

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Speaker 1: not be the last time we speak. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me. I really appreciate it absolutely all right, guys, Well,

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Speaker 1: that was fun having Joe on, and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for submitting some fan questions earlier today. That is

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Speaker 1: all we have for you, so thank you so much

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Speaker 1: to our Happy Hour listeners, as well as thank you

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Speaker 1: Joe for being here. We are casting for the upcoming

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Speaker 1: seasons of the Bachelor and The Bachelotte, so head to

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