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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong

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Speaker 2: Pressure for cease far and an end to the suffering

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Speaker 2: in Gaza Grove, the images shocking the world, the children

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Speaker 2: of Gaza skin and bone, those scenes fueling the growing

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Speaker 3: I wish I had a better handle on what is

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Speaker 3: actually going on there. As I mentioned the other day,

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Speaker 3: even NPR, for the first time I've ever heard them,

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Speaker 3: gave some air to the Israeli side, saying that look,

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Speaker 3: we're trying to hand out food.

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Speaker 4: We're not.

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Speaker 1: It's not us.

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Speaker 3: There's not actually an attempt by us to keep people

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Speaker 3: from eating. NPR said this cannot be validated or what

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Speaker 3: is the word they always use verified by NPR, But

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Speaker 3: it is the first time they ever gave that any air,

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Speaker 3: which to me meant they're not solid on what's actually

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Speaker 3: happening either. Well, given the fact that you could use

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Speaker 3: that phrase for every statement Hamas makes and their health authority,

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Speaker 3: it's unbelievable hypocrisy that they use it there.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, that does show something somebody.

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Speaker 1: Did headline Wall Street Journal Gaza starvation photos tell a

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Speaker 1: thousand lies.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I want to hear more than that. Because somebody

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Speaker 3: texted the other day and I thought this was an

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Speaker 3: interesting question. Then there might be an answer. You have

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Speaker 3: seen a lot of really skinny kids that look like

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Speaker 3: they're really really hungry, but not adults.

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously kids are more heart tugging pictures, but

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Speaker 3: they're hungry.

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Speaker 1: Adults also are. Yeah, I've seen some skinny adults, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know and where was that video taken and

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Speaker 4: And did they choose the people in it? And just

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's an information war at this point, clearly, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's notable click baity dishonesty in a lot of cases.

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Speaker 1: I think that most news outlets don't recognize that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can arrive at whatever conclusion you want, maybe you're

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Speaker 1: like waiving the flag in the streets and wearing a kafia,

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Speaker 1: but you have to admit the information war is as important,

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Speaker 1: or maybe more important than the guns and guys shooting

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Speaker 1: the war.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's more important in terms of well, first of all,

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Speaker 3: pushing Trump one direction or another on how much he's

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Speaker 3: gonna stand by Israel and what they want to do,

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Speaker 3: or I guess bb Net and Yahoo and what he

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Speaker 3: wants to do, or not. If Trump is swayed by

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Speaker 3: the stuff he sees on TV, which this week it

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Speaker 3: The problem I haven't I already said this earlier this week,

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Speaker 3: so I'll make it short. But if your information is

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Speaker 3: coming from Hamas, the conversation ends for me, do you

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Speaker 3: have any other source? Do you have any source other

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Speaker 3: than Hamas for what is happening?

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Speaker 4: That's great question, great follow up.

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Speaker 1: That's the sort of question that an editor would ask

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Speaker 1: as automatically as a reflex test. I mean, okay, you've

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Speaker 1: lot more work to do. Let me know when you

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Speaker 1: have something verifiable, they would say automatically. For like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the last century of quote unquote journalism in America.

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Speaker 3: So we have some analysis from a smart geopolitical thinker.

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Speaker 3: But what is the Wall Street journals? How did they

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Speaker 3: come to the conclusion that the pictures of starving people

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a it's.

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Speaker 1: An editorial by app person, but he points out the

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Speaker 1: infamous story of little Mohammed, the skin and bonesy guy

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Speaker 1: learned new information, updated or story to ad context about

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Speaker 1: Mohammed's pre existing health problems. The poor little ad has

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Speaker 1: Israel is intentionally starving gods and children. There was another

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Speaker 1: that there are tons and tons and tons and tons

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Speaker 1: of food sitting there that the United Nations is refusing

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Speaker 4: But these facts rarely break through the noise.

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Speaker 1: Instead, the world sees a photo of a suffering child,

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Speaker 1: it without asking questions the context. The context is stripped away,

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Speaker 1: is real suffering in Gaza. But when that suffering is

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Speaker 1: exploited for propaganda, and when humanitarian systems are paralyzed by

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Speaker 3: But man pictures can move opinions. Is the very famous

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Speaker 3: we were doing any good over there? Remember the picture

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, I was entirely justified.

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Speaker 1: And then you combine that though with the poor little

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Speaker 3: And so this photo was going to be maybe was

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Speaker 3: He saw that picture on the front page and was

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Speaker 3: horrified by it, right, yeah, Yeah. This guy's name is

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Speaker 3: Richard Hass. He used to run one of your super

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Speaker 3: smart think tanks about international stuff. Pretty smart guy. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: I agree with him, sometimes I don't. But he had

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Speaker 5: Beginning to see is the change an international public position

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Speaker 5: in the United states. You do not want this issue

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Speaker 5: And second, or more broadly, Israel doesn't want to make

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Speaker 4: And I think there's a warning here.

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Speaker 5: And the real question is will this reverberate in Israeli

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Speaker 4: But I think it should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's so far domestically in Israel, this hasn't become that.

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Speaker 3: They're not a their current government's strategy. There are rumbles

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Speaker 3: more on that to come, but they're holding on so far.

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Speaker 5: Got to have a uni Palestinian state. No, that's not

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, a Palestinian state cannot be

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Speaker 5: imposed from the outside. So again, this is all science

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Speaker 5: that the world has grown weary with what Israel is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Macrone and Starmer in Great Britain and

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Speaker 1: We are signing on to the idea of a Palestinian state.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a gesture that we're done with supporting Israel,

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Speaker 3: you know, giving them a blank, a blank chech support

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Speaker 1: You could argue that's because they're getting too much heat

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Speaker 1: because the pictures and videos we were just talking about.

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Speaker 1: Or they might just think, as one of my favorite writers,

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Speaker 1: does that look. Plan A for Israel is not going

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Speaker 3: And then finally, this on Trump's role in the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: But the president has political standing in Israel, they even

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Speaker 5: He can put pressure on Israel, not by declaring a

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Speaker 5: support for Palestinian state unconditionally, but by pushing the Israelis

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of things this president can do if

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Speaker 5: So far he's been reluctant to do it. But the opportunity,

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Speaker 3: What could the possible day after Plan B. I understand

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Speaker 3: the whole next day problem, which is often the problem. Okay,

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Speaker 1: To do then? But in this case, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, we got to kill Hamas because they just, you know,

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Speaker 3: And they're still worrying about that later, I guess. But

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite writers sort of addressed that question,

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Speaker 1: and I've got a bit of a yin and yang

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Speaker 1: for you. I suggest humbly that we take a break

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Speaker 1: may be the ultimate. This whole situation is the ultimate.

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Speaker 1: Both are true situation. People argue as if all right,

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Speaker 1: October seventh, happened. Therefore Israel can do anything, well, not really,

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Speaker 1: as Richard Haas was talking about. Or or people say

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Speaker 1: that people in uh Gaza are suffering, look at the

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Speaker 1: bay and they need food. Therefore Israel should not do anything.

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Speaker 1: That's not true either. So little yin and yang for you,

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Speaker 1: a little perspective coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Sounds a little deep for me. I want to argue

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Speaker 3: about that blue jeans commercial. That's what we're going to

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Speaker 3: do that too.

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Speaker 4: Later.

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Speaker 1: Oh we are take care of with your big boobies

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Speaker 1: into blue jeans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do that.

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Speaker 3: There's more on that story, Oh so much more. God,

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Speaker 3: all right, stay here. This will be a good lead

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Speaker 3: into Joe's dilemma about the problem in Gaza. This is

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Speaker 3: the twenty ninth, which is two days ago. The UN

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Speaker 3: itself says that eighty seven percent of the over two

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Speaker 3: groups Hamas.

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Speaker 3: It's horrifying to me that Joe says there is another

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Speaker 3: Jack, that's correct, the eugenics commercial for Eagles Outfitters.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe there's more to that story. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining

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Speaker 1: What I was thinking white supremacism.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's exactly what I first first thing I thought

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Speaker 4: It's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Is anyway Number one story on the Globe for young

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Speaker 1: So this idiotic, fake controversy, which is great fun because

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Speaker 4: Honestly. Oh, that's one of the reasons I enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: I good comment on that. I'm glad you reminded me.

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Speaker 4: Nazism is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure that some twenty five year old in

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Speaker 4: The heart wants with the heart wants and all that.

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Speaker 3: I've never understood these things just in general. Like the

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Speaker 4: Not oh Nazi germanity.

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Speaker 4: Even if I'm true? Right right? I know, I know?

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Speaker 4: And then CJ.

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Speaker 1: Pearson I appreciate appreciated this writing too in Fox News.

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Speaker 1: University linking the good genes thing to to the eugenics thing.

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Speaker 1: Let's cut the nonsense. Progressive women aren't mad at Sydney

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Speaker 4: To give her a glad Award.

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Speaker 1: But because Sidney Sweeney simply exists, confident, traditionally feminine, and

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Speaker 3: That was pretty good, so perfect, Michael. I came across

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Speaker 4: Where was the outrage?

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Speaker 4: All right now, I'm done? Maybe probably so.

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Speaker 3: When I first read this, it kind of swayed me.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Part of it, though, you should blame that professor we

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Speaker 4: Was from Good Morning America.

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Speaker 3: That's a mainstream, dominant media, Democrat news outlet.

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Speaker 4: Lay down your arms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you first, because you've been doing it for

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Speaker 1: the fifty years. Yeah, PABs, Huh, Sorry, I got a

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Speaker 1: little fired up there. I used some really unhappy word

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Speaker 1: the letters there. I am.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna we got some Ebstein stuff, some actually

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Speaker 3: new Ebstein stuff that we'll do an hour three. But

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Speaker 3: that scandal and this one, which I don't think ranks

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Speaker 3: to be called a scandal. But nah, I just I

451
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Speaker 3: can't figure out what's real anymore. I feel like my

452
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Speaker 3: sense of figuring out is this a real thing or

453
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Speaker 3: not has been completely broken, like in just the last month.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that I can't figure out what

455
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Speaker 3: actually is impacting people are not like I thought.

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Speaker 1: So you've become unmoored from reality.

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Speaker 4: Is that fair? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Ever since I became untethered from reality, doctor, my rabbit.

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Speaker 4: Friend told me, Jack, you need to get more rest.

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Speaker 3: I used to, uh, feel like I had a good

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Speaker 3: sense of that. But like I thought, when I first

462
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Speaker 3: heard this blue Jeen thing, I thought, well, this is

463
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Speaker 3: completely made up. It's probably even being pushed by Eagle Outfitters.

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Speaker 3: Is that the name of the gene company American Eagle?

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Speaker 3: American Eagle. Okay, When I first heard this, I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: this is one of those it's it's it's It's like

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Speaker 3: Abercrome and Fitch used to do. They would purposefully start

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Speaker 3: a controversy and everybody would find about doing the product.

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was just one of those, and

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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, ho hum. But then it was

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Speaker 3: and I thought, okay, I'm untethered from reality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only I think you're right. First of all,

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Speaker 1: so tired of and pissed off by the woke agenda

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Speaker 1: because you and me, you and I, Katie, most of us,

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Speaker 1: we only felt the humiliation and the anger of being

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Speaker 1: forced to sit through the woke training sessions by proxy

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Speaker 1: through our listeners. And but we you know, I read dozens,

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Speaker 1: maybe hundreds of emails from people who had to sit

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Speaker 1: there jaw clenched because their kids need their college money

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Speaker 1: and they couldn't argue. They couldn't even ask questions about

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Speaker 1: at these sessions lest they be you know, railroaded out

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Speaker 1: of their jobs. And there is deep, deep not to

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Speaker 1: mention you saw your city burn during the George Floyd protests,

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Speaker 1: which were mostly peace and the only gatherings allowed during COVID.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you couldn't go to your blank in church,

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Speaker 1: but you could burn down your local target store in

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Speaker 1: the name of George Floyd or something.

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Speaker 4: And people are pissed.

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Speaker 1: And this is another opportunity to now speak out and

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Speaker 1: say no, that garbage is not true, we don't believe.

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Speaker 4: It, and they're not going to run our country. Amen.

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Speaker 4: End of screen.

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Speaker 3: So Tom Brady just said something interesting. Might have to

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Speaker 3: get to that first. Tell you about this topic.

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Speaker 1: No, Oh, thank goodness, because I thought that was a

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Speaker 3: I'll have to dig up the actual quotes because I

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Speaker 3: just saw them up on the television and just caught

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Speaker 3: them a little bit out of context. But apparently Tom

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Speaker 3: Brady the football player was responding to that golfer.

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Speaker 1: Best golfer in the world. You said, what's his name,

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Speaker 1: Oh Scotti Scheffler.

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Speaker 3: Who the comments A couple of weeks ago we played

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Speaker 3: all about how he just, you know, he doesn't get

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Speaker 3: that mussatisfaction out of winning golf and family and that's

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Speaker 3: Brady was asked about that it was in a bit

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Speaker 3: of a weird situation and that he may have lost

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Speaker 3: And I was just reading this quote up there, and

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Speaker 3: he said, I felt like I was doing I was

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Speaker 3: doing the right thing for my family by prioritizing my

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Speaker 3: profession and becoming a teacher.

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Speaker 1: Okay, increasing our net worth from one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a teacher, that's what you're doing. You were teaching

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Speaker 3: younger quarterbacks how to quarterback, and that was for your

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Speaker 3: family somehow, Okay. But apparently Giselle Bunchin did not feel

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Speaker 3: the same way about it. Of course, who knows.

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Speaker 4: You never know what.

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Speaker 1: The actual problem was.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Couple of things that I want to get to. Media

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Speaker 3: coverage of the Russia hoax back in the day versus

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Speaker 3: media coverage of Tulsi Gabberd's claim that it was all orchestrated.

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Speaker 3: That's quite the stark difference. Also, we got the big

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Speaker 3: anniversary this week's sixty year anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid.

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Speaker 3: Quick look at how well that's worked out, and a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can stay here. What makes you think

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Speaker 1: free Eye ant lists could actually be an alien spacecraft?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's moving on a very special trajectory that lines

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Speaker 7: up with the orbit of the Earth around the Sun.

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Speaker 7: With that plane, it will get closest to the Sun

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Speaker 7: when we won't be able to see it because we

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Speaker 7: will be exactly on the opposite side of the Sun.

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Speaker 7: It gets unusually close to all the inner planets with

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Speaker 7: a likelihood of less than one part in twenty thousand

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Speaker 7: and Moreover, it moves in the opposite direction to the

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Speaker 7: motion of the Earth around the Sun. That basically prevents

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Speaker 7: us from reaching it or intercepting it with any of

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Speaker 7: our rockets.

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Speaker 3: So that's a Harvard professor claiming something is alien spacecraft.

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Speaker 4: It can't be a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: It's it's orbit is designed purely to evade our detection

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Speaker 1: of its actual purpose, and you know what it is.

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Speaker 3: A Harvard professor says it's an alien spacecraft. Seems like

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Speaker 3: that should have been the lead story today is in

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Speaker 3: my mind, in my heart, culmination of the Fermi paradox

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Speaker 3: of well, where is everybody?

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Speaker 1: Then? Three I Atlas is the name of it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we've found something.

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Speaker 4: Fermi was a crank.

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Speaker 3: It was on yesterday, sixty years ago that Lyndon Johnson

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Speaker 3: signed Medicare and Medicaid into law. We're going to have

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Speaker 3: our healthcare expert, Craig Gottwaals on tomorrow to go through

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Speaker 3: like the real stats on the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was all intended to help a tiny slice of

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Speaker 3: humanity in America that really needed help because they were

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Speaker 3: so downtrodden. And now it's like practically everybody. It's one

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Speaker 3: of the great mission creeps in the history of entitlements.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, really on Earth? Yeah, going through some of

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Speaker 3: the stats I've got here from Sony who tweeted about

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Speaker 3: it yesterday, it was thought it'd be worth pointing out

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Speaker 3: in its first ten years, Medicare had no discernible effect

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Speaker 3: on elderly mortality. Doesn't mean it didn't help, but it

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Speaker 3: doesn't certainly no proof that it did help. Since nineteen

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Speaker 3: sixty five, Medicare and Medicaid have spent how much money

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Speaker 3: without substantial evidence of effectiveness? Like, there's very little way

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Speaker 3: to measure that it's done any good for anybody. Forty

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Speaker 3: five trillion dollars wow, Medicare and Medicaid since nineteen sixty five,

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Speaker 3: sixty years ago yesterday, forty five trillion dollars with little

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Speaker 3: evidence of any effectiveness for helping the situation for people

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Speaker 3: in general.

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Speaker 4: You know, and I don't know this.

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Speaker 1: We're looking forward to talking to Craig, the healthcare guru

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Speaker 1: about this in the next day or two. I'm not

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Speaker 1: an authority, but whenever you have the wrong solution to

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Speaker 1: a problem in place for a very very long time

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Speaker 1: and spend a tremendous amount of money on it, the

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Speaker 1: problem being, you know, people need medical care in some way,

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Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, and it's expensive.

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Speaker 4: What do you do about it?

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Speaker 1: But if you have the wrong solution in place for

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Speaker 1: a very long time, what does that prevent folks or

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Speaker 1: what does that remove the incentive to find? Obviously the

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Speaker 1: right solution, So I would argue it's been worse than

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Speaker 1: just a waste of money.

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Speaker 3: A Wall Street Journal opinion piece. If Medicare and Medicaid

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Speaker 3: were drugs, the US FDA would not approve them and

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Speaker 3: would imprison their salesman for claiming they saved lives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 3: Medicare and Medicaid spend about a trillion dollars a year currently.

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Speaker 3: The best evidence suggests that uh, one third of Medicare

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Speaker 3: spending is pure waste. About a third absolutely unbelievable. And

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Speaker 3: we'll have Craig go on tomorrow to go through some

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Speaker 3: more of the stats of what it was supposed to

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Speaker 3: do and what it hasn't done and everything. But it's

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Speaker 3: the moment, amazing.

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Speaker 1: The moment Republicans suggest, hey, like healthy, working age men

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Speaker 1: who are on Medicaid for no reason, how about we

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Speaker 1: make them like, try to work a little bit. The

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Speaker 1: Democrats immediately go berserk and scream that they're gooda. They're

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Speaker 1: throwing plane children off of Medicaid out of pure wanton cruelty.

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Speaker 1: That's how stupid our politics are. Democracy doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of stupid, there is a stupid essay in The

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Speaker 3: New York Times today about screen time and attention spans

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Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. It's very interesting, though

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Speaker 3: the root conversation. Their conclusion is often the case with

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Speaker 3: progressives is stupid about how it's another the rich taking

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Speaker 3: advantage of the poor, or something that they get to

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Speaker 3: with screen time. But I do want to talk about

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Speaker 3: that next hour, because that's really really good. What was

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Speaker 3: the other thing that I wanted to jam in? I

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Speaker 3: know I had something I don't remember. I'll think about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Kamala Harris has got a book coming out,

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Speaker 3: which is proof positive, proof positive that she's running for president,

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Speaker 3: because that's what you do. You put out a book

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Speaker 3: so you can do the interview circuit and talk about

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Speaker 3: how you're going to fix America and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: So given her intellect, I wonder, is it a coloring book?

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Speaker 3: I know, I really look forward to the fact that,

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Speaker 3: according to The New York Times, also she thinks she

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Speaker 3: didn't do enough interviews when she ran for president last time,

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Speaker 3: so she's going to do a lot more podcasts and

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Speaker 3: mainstream media interviews and bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Can't tell you how much I love that idea, kam La.

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Speaker 4: I know it.

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Speaker 3: That's easy to do it some of the best things

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Speaker 3: I've heard in a long time. Puts a skip in

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Speaker 3: my step. We got a lot more on the way

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty