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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for day Edith state?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 2: And no, Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, Welcome back to the soliverbal money is Ty

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Speaker 1: Hildon Brandt. Welcome back for ballerhood. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for downloading, for listening, for supporting. We are now through

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Speaker 1: officially six weeks of the college football season. We thought

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Speaker 1: last week would be kind of quiet, didn't end up

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Speaker 1: being quiet at all. On today's episode, we're going to

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Speaker 1: start looking ahead into week seven, which Dan I did

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Speaker 1: the advanced look ahead. It looks like a friggin' banger,

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Speaker 1: So get your affairs in order. Sure, sure you're ready

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Speaker 1: to go? Week seven was pretty damn good. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great. I'm very excited for week seven. I'm very

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Speaker 2: excited for every single week. This is the particular part

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Speaker 2: of it. I say this is the particular part of

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Speaker 2: the season. It's the entire season really where you really

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Speaker 2: get the chirping of fans who say, why is this

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Speaker 2: team number five? Why is this team number eleven? Why

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Speaker 2: is this team number seventeen. Who is this team beaten?

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Speaker 2: What has this team done? And there's no pleasing anybody,

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Speaker 2: which is great.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 2: Once you realize that you're not going to make anybody

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Speaker 2: happy if no matter who you are, then you're free

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Speaker 2: to really just go for it when talking about college football.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's good, nobody's beaten anybody, nobody's bad, nobody's done anything.

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Speaker 2: It's great tie and I really am feeling it for

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Speaker 2: whatever particular reason. As we enter into week seven, let's.

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Speaker 1: Roll, I would be curious to know, among other people

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Speaker 1: who do what we do or something similar if they

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Speaker 1: have also noticed that the tenor of the comments has

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Speaker 1: changed very quickly, like overnight, once we got into week five,

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Speaker 1: and certainly now after week six, a lot more fire

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Speaker 1: in some of these comments, Dan, as people are starting

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Speaker 1: to look ahead, starting to really be in their feels

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Speaker 1: with what's going on with their respective teams. We will

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Speaker 1: get into that to some extent here over the next

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes to an hour or so.

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Speaker 2: The one thing they can agree upon, to be clear,

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Speaker 2: is that it is Odu's time.

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Speaker 1: The monarchs.

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Speaker 2: Fear the monarchs, is that it is all monarchs, all

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Speaker 2: the time Ricky Ronnie's dudes are rolling and ready to explode.

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Speaker 2: That's I think we can all agree. It's ODU, it's Harvard,

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Speaker 2: It's possibly San Diego State and Ohio State will win

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Speaker 2: it all. Beyond that, everybody's on the same page with

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Speaker 2: those things. But beyond that, you know, it's get what

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Speaker 1: the college football season. So on today's episode, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk through the latest in ap poles in Verboler

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Speaker 1: Top twelve poles. We're also going to go through three

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Speaker 1: big previews in advance of week seven, as we've called

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Speaker 1: them here the Early Bird Specials. We're going to have

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Speaker 1: this episode, mister Rubinstein, before we dive into all of that, though,

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Speaker 1: this is sort of our quiet moment of reflection. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: impressed with Texas Tech's defense. And that's all to say.

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Speaker 2: very much. So that was something I came away impressed with.

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Speaker 2: Colorado games are crazy entertaining. Colorado turned Georgia Tech over

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Speaker 2: So there was essentially a twenty one point potential swing

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Speaker 2: And then Kansas State had the ball near the end

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Speaker 2: a field goal. The manner in which Kansas State blew

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Speaker 2: this game was atrocious. It was really really bad. Some

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Speaker 2: But the Big Twelve is playing incredibly entertaining football this year,

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Speaker 2: and we knew it was going to be chaos. We

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Speaker 2: was thrilled with that entertainment factor. I went back and

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Speaker 2: by Mississippi State. They don't have the depth to play

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Speaker 2: I say that in the wake of them taking Tennessee

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Speaker 2: I kind of think you need to have that, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: You absolutely need to feel like you are the dude.

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Speaker 2: He has not ascended to what he will be yet,

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Speaker 2: Washington on the road right now. After watching them against Maryland,

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. But that was a bummer to see if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, Washington, the questions are not

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Speaker 1: unfounded Washington on the road, but the way they came

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Speaker 2: It does seem like they made some adjustments on offense.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like they need to build more of

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Speaker 2: the plan out of Jonah Coleman. It does seem like

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Speaker 2: they need to figure out how they want to use

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Speaker 2: great long term plan for Washington's goals. So I want

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Speaker 2: to see what they're able to do in how Jedfish

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Speaker 2: because his talent is unquestionable. He's very very good. He's

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Speaker 2: how creative they can get because they have skill position guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there anything right now beyond like an

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Speaker 2: As to many many teams, that was very encouraging because

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Speaker 2: you could argue that Washington was one of the three

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Speaker 2: best clunkers one situation at Maryland this past weekend. Otherwise, no,

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Speaker 2: we can talk about teams under the radar in a moment.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there was anything lingering for you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I mentioned it a little bit on

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Speaker 1: the episode that we did on Saturday night, and I

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Speaker 1: have been marinating this thought for a while. But I

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Speaker 1: really think Michigan is flying under the radar. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: really truly feel like Michigan is flying under the radar.

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Speaker 1: They are not a perfect product by any stretch. Bright

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Speaker 1: Underwood is still young. We still see some of those

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Speaker 1: growing pains that you have with any true freshman quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Certainly they're running the hell out of the ball. I

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Speaker 1: of course, right in solid Verbo at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I'm happy to uh if

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of movement. What's interesting about this poll?

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Speaker 2: I think Ohio State is a better team than Miami

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Speaker 2: in this moment, but I don't have the resume that

435
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Speaker 2: you know, can can fully back it up where it

436
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Speaker 2: seems that Miami with wins against a Florida team that's

437
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Speaker 2: up and down, a Florida State team that now we

438
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Speaker 2: consider up and down a USF team that we think

439
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Speaker 2: is a good for that conference type team like Miami

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Speaker 2: has proven at weekend and week out two. So it's

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Speaker 2: just a personal preference, and I think I would take

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Speaker 2: the team that has that combination of offense and defense

443
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Speaker 2: on a slightly higher level in my opinion, in Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: So I'm okay with that distinction there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had voted Miami one, I think mostly because

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Speaker 1: of that resume. But clearly I understand the case for

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Speaker 1: all of these teams, and it seems as though overballers

448
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Speaker 1: were out there making their case as well. Where we

449
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Speaker 1: do have a little bit of disparity, as you might expect,

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Speaker 1: is with the AP Top twenty five. The AP Top

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Speaker 1: twenty five saw some pretty big drops, as you might expect,

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Speaker 1: both Texas and Penn State drop from the top ten

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Speaker 1: fully out. Yes, there are now two and three.

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Speaker 2: In which fine, Yes, are you okay with that?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Yeah, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: be Certainly on the Penn State side, you lose the UCLA.

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Speaker 1: You deserve that. Yeah, you know, there's no two ways

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Speaker 1: about it. The Texas thing is probably a little bit

459
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Speaker 1: of a different story, but Florida was unranked as well,

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Speaker 1: so I understand it on that front. Vandy dropped four

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Speaker 1: down to number twenty. Iowa stated a pretty big drop,

462
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Speaker 1: eight all the way down to number twenty two. Florida

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Speaker 1: State drops seven by virtue of their loss to Miami.

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Speaker 1: They are still in the top twenty five, but they

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Speaker 1: are currently at number twenty five. There are a couple

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Speaker 1: teams that are in the teams that slit up a

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Speaker 1: couple slots. Okay, this is what tends to happen this

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Speaker 1: time of year, Right, teams in front of you lose

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Speaker 1: very gradually.

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Speaker 2: You gotta rank twenty five, right, you gotta get twenty

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Speaker 2: five teams in there, which means teams that you might

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Speaker 2: think are like the nineteenth or twenty second best team

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden like thirteen eleven. Okay, just somebody's

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Speaker 2: got to be there. Just slide in these teams around

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Speaker 2: on the board. Georgia Tech, Miszoo, the Aforemstion, aforementioned, Michigan Wolverines,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame Illinois byu UVA. These are teams that all

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Speaker 2: benefited from those in front of them dropping. All of

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Speaker 2: them went up about four or five slots, noted Ames

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Speaker 2: up to like number sixteen. Again, it's like nothing ever happened.

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Speaker 1: Right, So there's a lot of football that's yet to

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Speaker 1: be played. After this week, I guess technically we will

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Speaker 1: be halfway through the regular season. As we get a

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Speaker 1: little bit deeper into this thing, more conference games are

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Speaker 1: going to go down a bunch of these teams in

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Speaker 1: front of that grouping that I just mentioned of six

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Speaker 1: or seven teams. There will be losses, there will be

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Speaker 1: opportunities for them to gradually improve their standing as well.

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Speaker 1: But I don't have any harsh reactions to the AP pole.

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Speaker 1: What I am feeling, though, is that there is a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a merging taking place between what

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Speaker 1: we see on the AP side and what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: on the verballer side. Just because teams are playing more games,

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Speaker 1: it seemingly is getting a little bit clearer. Who deserves

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Speaker 1: to beware.

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Speaker 2: I think there is a steep drop off after three

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Speaker 2: between Oregon and Ole Miss. I think there's another steep

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Speaker 2: drop off likely between Alabama and Texas Tech, Georgia LSU

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Speaker 2: in there. Just what Alabama looks like now going to

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Speaker 2: Georgia and winning and finishing strong against Vanderbilt. You're right though,

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Speaker 2: about you know, the team slipping into the teams. You're

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Speaker 2: just like, LSU's the eleventh best team in the country

502
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Speaker 2: right now, and you're like, yes, they've beaten Florida and Clemson,

503
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Speaker 2: and the offense hasn't looked all that great. They didn't

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Speaker 2: look amazing obviously offensively against Ole Miss. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: their health is on offense. There's a bunch of questions there.

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Speaker 2: So I don't feel great about associating LSU as one

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Speaker 2: of the twelve best teams in the country right now,

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Speaker 2: but they certainly have a defense that would, you know,

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Speaker 2: withstand any argument otherwise, Illinois I don't think would hang

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Speaker 2: within ten, fourteen to seventeen points of Notre Dame, who

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Speaker 2: they're ranked right next to right now. I just have

512
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Speaker 2: questions about Illinois's consistency on either side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: And we're not handed the USC game, but that was

514
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Speaker 2: an extremely losable game. And also you lose by seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight points to Indiana, I think you

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Speaker 2: should probably fall a little bit lower than what your

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Speaker 2: resume might say.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: With Virginia and Vandy where they are, I'm not positive

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Speaker 2: why Iowa State is where they are and Cincinnati's not ranked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cincinnati question is interesting.

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Speaker 2: If they're both one lost teams and Cincinnati just did

523
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Speaker 2: whatever they wanted and scored I think near forty points

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Speaker 2: against the Iowa State defense. I'm not sure the thinking there,

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Speaker 2: especially as the Kansas State win hasn't aged especially well

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Speaker 2: and they've played close against some other teams. I just

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not sure why we have Iowa State

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Speaker 2: ranked in this moment. Great with Memphis being there, South

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Speaker 2: Florida fine.

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Speaker 1: Some of the teams that you're referencing here. We've got

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Speaker 1: Illinois at seventeen in the AP pole, We've got South

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Speaker 1: Florida at twenty four in the AP pole, just a

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Speaker 1: notch behind Memphis, who's at twenty three. Iowa State, as

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Speaker 1: you said, still in the top twenty five at number

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Of the teams that we see in this

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Speaker 1: AP top twenty five, which team is the most fools

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Speaker 1: gold right now?

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Speaker 2: There are just there are teams on here where you're like,

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen what Byu has done against a quality team.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen what like Miszoo has done against a

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Speaker 2: legit team. We will see this weekend and we'll get there.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's full fools gold, but I'd love

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Speaker 2: to see Florida State play well after Week one. I'd

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Speaker 2: love to see that. Yeah, I guess I guess those

545
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Speaker 2: are my teams just based on lack of opponent. So

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Speaker 2: I have Illinois, Illinois BYU Miszoo and who else? Did

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Speaker 2: I say, Well, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Throw on another one in there, and I think LSU LSU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, LSU at eleven. I mean just they have a

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Speaker 2: top twelve defense.

551
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Speaker 1: But they have a better defense. I'm still not sure

552
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: we fully understand how good it is or isn't. But

553
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Speaker 1: the offense has definitely been problematic.

554
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Speaker 2: When I say top twelve, I don't mean the defense

555
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Speaker 2: is top twelve in the country. I mean they have

556
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Speaker 2: a defense that can boost them into a top twelve conversation.

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Speaker 1: LSU is a team that jumps out to me. I

558
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Speaker 1: like Texas Tech. I'm still not fully sold on Texas

559
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: Tech top ten.

560
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: They've taken care of business, taken care of business.

561
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Speaker 1: I want to see them play against better competition. Yeah,

562
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech is a bit of a question for me.

563
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Speaker 1: And I am still coming to grips with the whole

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Speaker 1: Virginia thing. Okay, I think Virginia is a really really

565
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Speaker 1: good story and by any measure, what they have done

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Speaker 1: right now is a huge coove for Tony Elliott, right,

567
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Speaker 1: I mean, just is it is already a wildly successful

568
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Speaker 1: season for the Who's. They're going to go to a

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Speaker 1: bowl game, They're going to probably get pretty close to

570
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Speaker 1: nine wins. Eight nine wins I think is realistic where

571
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Speaker 1: this team is at. The question though, once you get

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Speaker 1: into the top twenties, can you sustain it? And that

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Speaker 1: is where I am not fully committed to the Who's.

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Speaker 2: At their best. They're good, but I don't think there

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Speaker 2: is any one part of their team that you can

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Speaker 2: point to as like this is what's going to keep

577
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Speaker 2: them in the top twenty, Like it's just going to

578
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: be a roll. Like some weeks are gonna win in overtime,

579
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Speaker 2: some weeks you're gonna lose. They closed, They've closed well

580
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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, obviously winning those games in overtime.

581
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Speaker 2: But the sustainability for Virginia in this conversation I think

582
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Speaker 2: is not great.

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Speaker 1: you some games, Dan Badly Bird Special. It is a

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Speaker 1: look at the schedule, we pick out two or three

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Speaker 1: triple header. Onto the episode today, we've got three games

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Speaker 1: to discuss. We've got Ohio State Illinois. We've also got

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Speaker 1: Alabama on the road at Missoo. We've got Indiana on

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Speaker 1: top though, high noon on Fox. It's the big noon game.

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Speaker 1: It is an interesting rivalry. Did you know that this

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Speaker 1: is a rivalry between Alaba and Illinois. Yes, the Illa

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Speaker 1: Buck rivalry. The winner of this game receives a carved

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Speaker 1: wooden turtle named Dilabuck. Originally it was a live turtle

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Speaker 1: that they picked to dignify the expected long life of

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Speaker 1: the rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate that the turtle died. Oh well, circle

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Speaker 2: of life, and.

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Speaker 1: So now we've got this wooden figuringe go look it up,

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Speaker 1: pleasant enough, like a good turtle. You pro turtle.

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Speaker 2: Pro turtle absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that I would add as part

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Speaker 1: of this rivalry, at least in the early years, is

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Speaker 1: that at halftime, the junior honorary societies from both schools

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Speaker 1: used to go out there and smoke a peace pipe. WHOA, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they no longer do that. My guess is the tradition

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Speaker 1: is alive and well somewhere in the parking lot if

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Speaker 1: you're interested in peace pipe.

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Speaker 2: But alas of course.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State on the road minus fourteen and one half

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Speaker 1: points against the Illinois Fighting Allion. I Dan, I have

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Speaker 1: a couple mine bending stats from the Office of the

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Speaker 1: Solid Verbal Research, oh Please. Through five games, Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: defense is allowing an average of five points per game.

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Speaker 1: They have not allowed a touch down since Week three,

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Speaker 1: which is crazy crazy. I need your help. We need

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Speaker 1: to come up with a nickname for Caden Curry and

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Speaker 1: Caden McDonald, the two defensive tackles for Ohio State who

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Speaker 1: have been awesome. They had like eighteen tackles, eight for lows,

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Speaker 1: five sacks, A crazy double Caden situation. It's a double

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Speaker 1: Caden situation. I am not creative enough to come up

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Speaker 1: with the nickname. The best I could do was Caden Crush,

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Speaker 1: and I don't like that.

651
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: And wouldn't they be tackling Caden Vegan.

652
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: There's a three Caden situation going on here.

653
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tricade. Yeah, the tricaid, the arcade. I

654
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: don't know.

655
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: The God's not bad.

656
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: Arkad's not back because you also have rfl Reese.

657
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: The Arkid.

658
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: It's the arcade, the trifecta, the triumvirant. Yeah.

659
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Their defense is putting up arcade numbers.

660
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: True.

661
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: On offense, we've got some arcade numbers as well. Julian

662
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: Sayan has completed over eighty percent of his passes so

663
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: far this season. And despite all the talk about Jeremiah

664
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Smith Carnell Tait averaging over eighteen yards per catching no

665
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: drops on the season, he leads the team with eighteen

666
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: point one yards per reception. This is a very very

667
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: good Ohio State team, both on offense and on defense.

668
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Let me say this, I am definitely prone to overthinking

669
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: matchups like this. I don't often ride on the underthink express.

670
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: That's part of my problem. It is very difficult to

671
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: build a case for Illinois here.

672
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: I agree.

673
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty good chance they end up

674
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: getting drilled. Agree to their credit, they're five and one

675
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: against the spread this year. Okay, so there you know

676
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Vegas is still trying to figure out Illinois. Can you

677
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: build a realistic case for Illinois in this game.

678
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: If we're talking about straight up and without injury, not really,

679
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: how many players in Illinois starting twenty two would start

680
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: for Ohio State? Gay acis maybe no, not many. There's

681
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: not a ton, especially with some of the injuries on

682
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: Illinois's front that we haven't able to see what they

683
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: could be fully realized on defense. But like I like

684
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: Illinois players on both sides of the ball.

685
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: I think Illinois solid. I like Illinois as a team.

686
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: But what I keep getting hung up on is the

687
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: best case I can make for them in this game

688
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: is winning the turnover margin, getting short fields, playing at

689
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: a slower pace to keep Ohio State off the field.

690
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: And that's a formula that requires about eighty percent good luck, right,

691
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna sit here on this show and

692
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: try to be logical with who we're predicting and why,

693
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: I can't base the whole thing around luck, I just

694
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: can't do it.

695
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: The best of Texas's defense in Week one held Ohio

696
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: State to fourteen points. Texas has a number of all

697
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: American caliber guys on that defense, especially linebacker edge. You know,

698
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: they look terrific at their best, sure, and they held

699
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: Ohio State to fourteen points. Illinois is not near there

700
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: in terms of talent games of Illinois, which is nice.

701
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna need to just bleed so much of Ohio

702
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: State clock, right, You're gonna need to sort of convert

703
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: every third and short, fourth and short. You're gonna have

704
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: to go for it on fourth and short like kind

705
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: of deep ish in your own territory. You're gonna have

706
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: to take those kinds of chances to keep the Ohio

707
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: State defense on the field. And even then, it's not

708
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: a formula like to drive down the field and take

709
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: fifteen seventeen nineteen plays against Ohio State's defense. That's not

710
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: allowing anything. And the best thing you do if your

711
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: Illinois is throw the ball. You're gonna Hank Bety your

712
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: way to beating Ohio State. All due respect to Hank Beaty,

713
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: who is good, but it's it just doesn't feel like

714
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: a competitive formula right now. And so better that this

715
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: game is at home than away, as we saw what

716
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Illinois did or didn't really do in Bloomington. No, I mean,

717
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: it's short of an injury, right if Julian Saying goes

718
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: down or something like that. Even that, we never want

719
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: to happen. But uh no, I mean it's at noon.

720
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: You could get to sleep at Ohio State for a

721
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: quarter and a half something like that. You could have

722
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: like a reasonable looking halftime score. You could have a

723
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: halftime score of seventeen to seven and be like, oh, interesting, Okay,

724
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: there's something there. It's not going to be interesting. I

725
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: don't think. I just this has thirty five to ten

726
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: written all over it.

727
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: I've got thirty seven to fourteen. Maybe we've been doing

728
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: this too long and we finish you to finish each

729
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: other's sentences, But I'm with you. Like the offense runs

730
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: through Luke Altmeyer. On the Illinois side, they're not particularly

731
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: efficient on the ground. Almost all their pop comes through

732
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: the air. I like the Altmeyer to Hank Baty connection.

733
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: I do. He had a great game a week ago.

734
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: You just need more options if you're going to beat

735
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: Ohio State, if you want to mount the serious charge

736
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: against the Buckeyes, you need more I think they can

737
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: move the ball to some extent between the twenties, but

738
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: if they get into the red zone. One of the

739
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: issues we've seen with Illinois this year too many field goals,

740
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: not enough touchdowns, and especially on the Ohio State side,

741
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: they're not allowing any touchdowns right, So that's a trend

742
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: that Illinois would need to reverse pretty quickly if they

743
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: want to have a fighting chance here against Ohio State,

744
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: because field goals aren't going to beat the buck guys.

745
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm just not seeing that. The Ohio State defense has

746
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: been nails and then like the other side of this

747
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: is not to be overshadowed. The Ohio State offense. We

748
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: talk a lot about the playmakers on offense. We know

749
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: how good they are, we know how efficient they've been.

750
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: The quiet engine for this offense has been an offensive

751
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: line that has been really good this year. They've been

752
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: really good at protecting Julian saying in general, they have

753
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: done a really good job of keeping the offense on

754
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: the field. The game plan early against Washington was probably

755
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: a tell for what we're going to see early in

756
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: this game because they just kept running it. They ran

757
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: it five of their six opening plays. They wanted to

758
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: get going on the ground, they wanted to take some

759
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: pressure off of the young quarterback. They did get stopped

760
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: on that drive at Washington by the way down at

761
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: like the five yard line, But I think if they

762
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: can establish themselves out of the gate as the more

763
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: physical team in the trenches, it's going to be a

764
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: problem because eventually you're going to have to commit resources

765
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: to that, and that's when they get you over the

766
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: top of the passing game, and we know they have

767
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: options out wide. I just think the margins here for

768
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Illinois are so slim it is really tough for me

769
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: to find the path, not necessarily to cover. I mean,

770
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: anybody can cover, right, I think it's unthing like thirty

771
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: seven to fourteen Ohio State. I think they wouldn't going away.

772
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. The saving grace I guess if you are hoping

773
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: for a close Illinois game or an upset, is like,

774
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: this is the biggest game of the season in champ Right,

775
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: this is the de facto Super Bowl, all due respect

776
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: to USC, but that's not on the same level in

777
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: the Midwest as Ohio State coming to town. And so

778
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: you are going to have people from all you know,

779
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: Illinois alums coming in from all over for this game,

780
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a frenzied atmosphere. But it's also

781
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: at noon, where it's actually really at eleven Local, right,

782
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: it's at eleven Central. So you're just not going to

783
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: get the crowd whipped up in the same way that

784
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: they would if it were you know, two thirty local

785
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: or six thirty local something like that. So that takes

786
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: a little bit of the air out of things. It's

787
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: a huge game, right that there is that element of

788
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: like Ohio State isn't a finished product. You know, there's

789
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: a lot new on both sides of the ball full

790
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: time starter wise, but man, they went to Seattle and

791
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: they just silenced them. Like, I don't think Minnesota is amazing,

792
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: but Minnesota did nothing. PJ Flex said, like that was

793
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: the best defense he had seen in thirteen years in

794
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. And then you couple that with Illinois

795
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: against the better defenses that they've played against the past

796
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: couple of years, Oregon, Penn State obviously earlier this year, Indiana,

797
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: and they are silent SA Bowl and so it's hard

798
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: to see them coming through for four quarters. Yeah, thirty

799
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: five to ten.

800
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Speaking of games being played at eleven am local time,

801
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: we get Alabama, a three and a half point road

802
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: favorite on the road at Missoo, Yes twelve Eastern eleventh

803
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: Central Miszoo has a rest advantage. They're coming off of

804
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: a bye. Obviously, the early kickoff. I question whether there's

805
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a look ahead here for Bama

806
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: with the Tennessee rivalry on deck. We know that's a

807
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: big deal.

808
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't think there's a look ahead situation.

809
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a marketplace of ideas, Dan Rubertstein.

810
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: Market place of ideas, Okay, carolling some stuff out there.

811
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: I want to see how it how it clicks.

812
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm allowed to disagree with you. Yes, Missoo the top

813
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: fifteen team. I think they will have their absolutely on

814
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: the road.

815
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: The more important thing in this matchup is a very

816
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: specific tendency. That is Miszoo running the football, which is

817
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: a clear and obvious strength, and Alabama stopping the run,

818
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: which they have not consistently been great at.

819
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: I agree.

820
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: We saw Vandy have a little bit of early success

821
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: on the ground that dried up. Alabama did get its

822
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: act together. They weren't able to be as successful moving forward,

823
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: but in the early part of that game we saw it.

824
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: I think Missoo will be better at it.

825
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: And Missoo is on a rest advantage, right I said

826
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: off playing at home? Yeah, as I said there, so,

827
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm just like as as it relates to the run

828
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: and the fresh legs.

829
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Miszoo has been lurking. They have been lurking.

830
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: They got the win a few weeks ago at home

831
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: against South Carolina. We haven't really talked a whole lot

832
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: about them otherwise because they haven't really played that difficult

833
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: of a sleep.

834
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: Right.

835
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: It's a physical team. They're very good at running with

836
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: a mott hardy. Mott Hardy, by the way, the transfer

837
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: leads the nation in rushing yards. I think he leads

838
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: the nation or leads the sec excuse me, in rushing

839
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns with nine.

840
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: He's over seven hundred yards of the year, I've seven thirty. Yeah.

841
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: They lead the nation as a team in time of possession.

842
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: They lead the nation in terms of third down offense.

843
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

844
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: They convert about sixty one percent of the time. So

845
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like here on the Missou side. Plus,

846
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: then you layer in future Penn State quarterback Bo Prabulah. Yeah,

847
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: you wish dude, who's been really solid. They haven't fully

848
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: unleashed him on the ground yet, maybe because of you know,

849
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: some questions about quarterback depth after Sam Horn went down. Yeah,

850
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: I think it's a very very compelling choice to go

851
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Miszoo here at home against Alabama because of that matchup.

852
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I really like that matchup.

853
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: You like the matchup of Missoo being able to control

854
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: the game on the ground against the Alabama run defense.

855
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: I do.

856
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: I think that number is characterized. I mean like it's

857
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of Thomas Castelanos obviously the long run

858
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: Cedric Alexander. But they you're at to your point, you

859
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: did say this, they tightened up very clearly significantly after

860
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: some early struggles against Bandy on the ground. They ran

861
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: the ball better obviously against Bandy than they had been

862
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: running earlier in this season. So hopefully that's a continued

863
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: step in that direction. If you're an Alabama fan. The question,

864
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: so this Miszoo checks off a lot of the boxes

865
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: of like they're playing at home, they're an underdog, the

866
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: defense is performed. I think they're leading the nation in

867
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: three and outs forced. Yeah, the percentage of drives that

868
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: end in a three and out when Missoo's defense is

869
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: on the field leads the nation. It's also just a

870
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: question of to what level do we believe in this

871
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: year's Miszoo team based on essentially Kansas and South Carolina.

872
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: Well and that's the thing, that's the important caveat.

873
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: I think quality teams, we don't know what that brings

874
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: out of Missoo specifically, Bama's going to.

875
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Be able to test Miszoo through the air, especially in

876
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: a much different way. And no disrespect to what Missoo

877
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: has done so far, they've been very very good. But

878
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: like you and me and Ari Wasserman, we could stop

879
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: the passing attack of UMass and u Elmanroe.

880
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was just disrespectcause they played Lafayette. They

881
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: just played Louisiana.

882
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is obviously a very different animal, yeah, on

883
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: the Alabama side, And the same could be said for

884
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: this defense as a whole. I don't know if they've

885
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: really been tested against an offense like this, So might

886
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: there be a little bit of culture shock? Might there be,

887
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, a sudden jump up in competition that the

888
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: Missouri defense is not prepared for. I think that's very

889
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: realistic and possibility here. Yeah, I just like that matchup

890
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: on offense.

891
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So if we can agree that Alabama is likely

892
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: a much better throwing team this season than where they

893
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: were last season, yes, yes, for sure. What Ty Simpson

894
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: looks like right now is pretty pinpoint and for as

895
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: fun as the Alabama offense could be at times last year,

896
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't think we could count on this being a

897
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe dominating things through the air offense. Alabama beat

898
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: Miszoo thirty four to nothing. Last year. That was a

899
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Brady Cook injured Drew Pines step in situation, Noah mad Hardy.

900
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: It's different teams, different years. It's also thirty four to

901
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: nothing in Tuscaloosa. I think Alabama wins this game. I

902
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: really do. I'm a Bama believer after last week, you know,

903
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: to do what they did last week in a letdown

904
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 2: spot against Georgia. Now, this is three in a row,

905
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: three tough games in a row Forbama. But I think

906
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: I just believe in the talent right now. And as

907
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: much as I like a Mad Hardy and Kevin Coleman's

908
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: having a really nice year for Miszoo, Bo Brabula throwing

909
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: into the teeth of the Alabama defense, I just need

910
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: to believe it, you know, I need to see it

911
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: to believe it. And so I'm not there yet. I've

912
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: been fooled by Missoo before I'm gonna say Maszoo is

913
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: a good team this year that will challenge to win

914
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: double digit game. I'm taking Bama here. I'm going twenty

915
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: seven to seventeen tied.

916
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm going twenty six twenty one, Misszoo outright, wow? Okay,

917
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: And I do think Alabama is going to have success

918
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: through the air, and it's not like they're going to

919
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: get shut down and not move the football. I think

920
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: this is going to be a really good football game.

921
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: But I just think the play style benefits Mszoo. I

922
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: really do. I think they'll be able to run it.

923
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to control the clock. I

924
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: love what they do on third downs. It will be

925
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 1: a test for the defense. It is not the same

926
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: as playing these other teams that they've beaten thus far.

927
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: There is no question about that. You mean, Miszoo man, Okay, disagree,

928
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: We do disagree. One more game, okay, three point thirty

929
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: on CBS. College Game Day is going to be in town.

930
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Friend of the show Jenny Dell and CBS will be

931
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: in town.

932
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

933
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: It is a matchup of two top ten teams that

934
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: statistic Glee DAN are very similar, very similar so far.

935
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: Great.

936
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: We also have two lunatic coaches, which is probably my

937
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: favorite part. Of this matchup as a whole.

938
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Google, may, Google.

939
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: May, We've got Indiana on the road at your Oregon

940
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: Ducks Oregon favored by seven and a half at home.

941
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah so look, I posted a screen grab out on

942
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: Twitter of this week's games, and somebody responded by saying

943
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: that this was a fake top ten matchup. I'm assuming

944
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: that's more of a dig at Indiana than Oregon. Okay,

945
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: I think so too, But a last let me let

946
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: me ask it to you this way. Okay, tough overtime

947
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: win for Oregon two weeks ago. Now on the road

948
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: and Happy Valley, we were there. Since then Penn State

949
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: falls on its face, loses at UCLA a week ago.

950
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: Now they've dropped out of the top twenty five. We

951
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: talked about that a couple of minutes ago because of

952
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: what we saw go down with Penn State last week.

953
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: Does that make you any less confident in the Oregon

954
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: Ducks being.

955
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: Out of the top twenty five? Yeah?

956
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: No, no, no, being so that Oregon's signature win may have

957
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: come against a team that in reality may not be

958
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: that good.

959
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Or you can add about seventy five IQ points

960
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: and say Oregon bet Penn State twice. It's it's your choice.

961
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: It's anybody's choice. If you want to think I'm again

962
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: marketplace of ideas, No, it's okay, So Mark, everybody has

963
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: that opportunity to ask you the question.

964
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: I know how I feel. I'm asking how you feel,

965
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: as an Oregon along.

966
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: How do I feel. I don't discount that win at all.

967
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: I was there. The environment was crazy. We're going to

968
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: see a lot of those dudes on that Penn State

969
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: defense get drafted. We're going to see Drew Aller start

970
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: a stellar podcast in a few years. I just am

971
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: of the mind that Oregon is really, really good, and

972
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: they're playing at home with a week off. And I

973
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't go as far as to say that this is

974
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: a fake top ten matchup, because I think the best

975
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: of Indiana can beat a lot of teams and win

976
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: a lot of games. But I just I think Oregon

977
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: is more solidified. I think this sport, more than basically

978
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: many other sports, is such a talent thing. And I

979
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: don't know which players, Like Indiana's got a very good

980
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: quarter in ponds, but who's starting for this Oregon team,

981
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: Like who is legitimately starting? Like I think their linebackers

982
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: are good, but I just think Oregon is better at

983
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: like twenty of twenty two positions.

984
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Did I see that Dante More has been sacked only

985
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: once this year?

986
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: Dante Moore, I believe, has only been sacked once, and

987
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: it was like a free rusher coming like the right

988
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: tackle was. I don't know if it was a miscommunication thing,

989
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: but yes, it was a free rush against maybe Oklahoma

990
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: State something early. So I think Indiana is good. I

991
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: just think Oregon's ext and I think Austin's a big deal.

992
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: I think what Indiana hasn't done against basically all of

993
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: the very much legit defenses that they face. You go

994
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: back last year and this year, they needed every second

995
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: to beat Iowa on the road, and they needed Iowa's

996
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: quarterback to get hurt and pick off Iowa's backup quarterback

997
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: to seal things. I just think away from Bloomington, they

998
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: are also like essentially traveling across the country. Yea, Indiana

999
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: in this matchup. It's not like a body clock game

1000
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 2: in the same way that other Big Ten matchups are,

1001
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: but they are traveling, and so I just don't think

1002
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: they have it for four quarters against this Oregon team.

1003
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: I think there's just too much speed. I think Dante

1004
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: More is too good. I did not come all way

1005
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: all that impressed with Fernando Mendoza against Iowa. I think

1006
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: the best of him is excellent, but I just I

1007
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: think he's like third tier national quarterback, not Heisman contender,

1008
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: and ready to eat my words if I'm wrong. Indy

1009
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: has gonna win a ton of games this year. I

1010
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: think Oregon's just clearly better. And so I have this

1011
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: as like thirty eight twenty ducks.

1012
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: I've got thirty eight to twenty four ducks. We tend

1013
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: to agree, and I also agree on the point that

1014
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Indiana's legit and it is very good. It's not a

1015
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: feel good story. They have a top ten offense and

1016
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: defense so far based on statistics. Say whatever you want

1017
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: about Fernanda Mendoza sixteen touchdowns, one interception. He has played

1018
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: very very well. He's also played in aughtsin before he

1019
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: has He played as a true freshman when he was

1020
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: over with Cal. Could that help him here? You know,

1021
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: who knows it's going to be loud. The autsin Zoo

1022
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: is a thing. It's a tough place to play, and

1023
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: I tend to favor Oregon as well, but he's got

1024
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: that experience. I also like their defense or defense has

1025
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: been very opportunistic. They lead the nation forcing interceptions, they

1026
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: rank third and turnover margin. This is a very good team.

1027
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot to like about Indiana. I certainly think

1028
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: they have the talent to hang around for some period

1029
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: of time. I just don't think four quarters. And so

1030
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: the game that I am envisioning here is one that

1031
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: is sort of close for a while, and we are

1032
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: in pins and needles late in the fourth quarter, wondering

1033
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: if a late touchdown is going to come and give

1034
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: them a back door cover.

1035
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: The number has come down, right, It opened double digits,

1036
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 2: and it's come down to seven, eight points.

1037
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: It's come down. So I could see this one as

1038
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: thirty eight twenty four Indiana with the ball laid. If

1039
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: they score, they're going to screw over a lot of betters.

1040
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: We have seen situations like that on a couple occasions

1041
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: so far. In fact, Burnana Mendoza apologized to betters two

1042
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: weeks ago because of what went down in their game

1043
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: against Iowa to safety safety. So yeah, I am with you.

1044
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: I tend to agree that Oregon is just better across

1045
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: the board and I think they will be able to

1046
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: assert their will at home in Autsin against the team

1047
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: in Indiana that is very very good and very very solid.

1048
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: But to the point, nobody in Indiana, almost to a man,

1049
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: is going to make that starting roster for Oregon. Right,

1050
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: So thirty eight twenty four is my final. I'm ready

1051
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: to eat my words if I am wrong on this one.

1052
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: But I did see Oregon go into Penn State, which

1053
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: say whatever you want about the Nitney Lyons, but to

1054
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: win in that setting is mind blowing. You can't imagine

1055
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: how loud it was there.

1056
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the only teams that are truly able to

1057
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: do that in those big games against Penn State are

1058
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: all of them.

1059
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: So I see we've gotten now into our Penn State

1060
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: joke mode, which is fine. They lost hold on that?

1061
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 2: Was that not a fact? I'm sorry? Does James Franklin

1062
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: win that game? Effort?

1063
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: Okay? Dari, how dare you bespurshed the name?

1064
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: I'll go look back and see how many of those,

1065
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: you know, top ten matchups James Franklin and Penn State

1066
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: have won lately.

1067
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: You could send that one off to the Penn State

1068
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: Reese or the Solivrable Research department on Penn State.

1069
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: True the crack staff, Yeah, I think Oregon's better. I

1070
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: think they have the edge at quarterback. I think they

1071
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: have edge at coordinators and coach. I think they're the

1072
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: fact that they're playing at Oddson Stadium and once again

1073
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: to bookend things Indiana against these top playoff caliber teams.

1074
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: Right.

1075
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: They score three points last season until the final two

1076
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: minutes against Notre Dame. Was that what it was?

1077
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: Yep?

1078
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: They score twenty points I think three points in the

1079
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: second half against a Michigan team that had no offense

1080
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: last year. They won that game. Better to win those

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00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: games than to lose. Absolutely couldn't do much on offense,

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00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: if at all, against Ohio State last year and needed

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00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: every second to get to the whatever it was twenty points,

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00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: seventeen points against Iowa this year on the road. I

1085
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: just think there's a ceiling. The ceiling is probably ten

1086
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: and two and super impressive, but losing to teams who

1087
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: are able to match up better than most, and there's

1088
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: always been that big ten team for a long time.

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: That was Wisconsin, maybe it was Penn State, you know,

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00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: taking care of business against the lesser and then just

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00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: not quite being there against the top flight teams. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Oregon has its act together.

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00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: They're playing at home. I think there are too many

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00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: weapons on this offense for Indiana to keep up with.

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00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: And the playmakers on defense I think are gonna give

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00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: Oregon some short fields and some opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Man, if this points break comes down to seven. If

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: it goes down to seven, that's lock of the week

1099
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: territory right there.

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00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

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00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: Okay, it was just bad news for you, I know,

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: very bad news for you. I know, I think they

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00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: win by two scorers. I feel pretty confident in that.

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00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: Let's be clear, Iowa was in position to win that

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: game without a passing game correct two weeks ago. So

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00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: that's all.

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00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: Some other very interesting Week seven games. We're not going

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00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: to preview these, not going to preview them yet. There

1109
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: is hope for all of them on our upcoming Thursday episode. Okay,

1110
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: on Friday night, a banger of a G six game,

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00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: South Florida on the road at North Texas. North Texas

1112
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: actually favored at time of recording. That should be a

1113
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: fun freaking game.

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00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: We've also got at high noon on ESPN on Saturday,

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00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: Pitt on the Road at Florida State. How does Florida

1117
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: State deal after their loss? Three thirty, we've got the

1118
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Red River shootout, Oklahoma at Texas, maybe taking on a

1119
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a different feel, but Texas still favored Dan. Yeah,

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00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: Iowa State at Colorado. Colorado is a four point home dog.

1121
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: It's interesting. At three thirty, Nebraska at Maryland. Maryland with

1122
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: another shot, try and take down a team that's traveling

1123
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: across a good chunk of the country in the Nebraska sinse. Yep,

1124
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: they're a six point home dog. TCUK State another one

1125
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: of these demolition Derby style Big twelve games.

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00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there is zero chance this is boring.

1127
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: There's absolutely zero chance. That's why I burn on the list. No,

1128
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: you're absolutely able within your right and it's the right move.

1129
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: Zero chance it is anything less than crazy entertaining. In

1130
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: the nightcap, we've got Florida at A and M. We've

1131
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: got Kansas at Texas Tech. We've got Michigan at USC,

1132
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: We've got Georgia at Auburn. We've got South Carolina at LSU.

1133
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: We've also got BYU at Arizona. A bunch of really

1134
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: freaking interesting games this week.

1135
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: That's an amazing lineup that is truly excellent.

1136
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: And then at night, if you're really a sicko at

1137
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen Eastern time, it is Arizona State at Utah.

1138
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't think super highly of Utah, but.

1139
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Utah I think you should. I think you should tough.

1140
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: Place to play. I don't think either of these teams

1141
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: are super buttoned up, even though Arizona State feels to

1142
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: me like maybe they're starting to figure it out. But

1143
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: only a five point line in favor of Utah.

1144
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great. I sometimes like to make date

1145
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 2: night plans on Friday night with the misses. This week

1146
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: might be put the kids to bed, just relaxed from

1147
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: a long, difficult week, make some fried rice, and don't

1148
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: move off the couch. I'm very excited for USF North Texas.

1149
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: I am as well. What I was going to say is,

1150
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: I think the strat when it comes to wives significant others.

1151
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: Sit down for TIS marriage advice, TIS marriage advice, Colin.

1152
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's good.

1153
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: I think fried rice is the move. I think some

1154
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: sort of heavy food is the move, because then perhaps

1155
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: you are promoting an early bedtime.

1156
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: Oh, we always promote an early bedtime in this well,

1157
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: so do I we're at this point.

1158
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but my point is early bedtime, get the TV

1159
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: to yourself, could really hunker down and enjoy the second

1160
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: half of USF North Texas, which I think is going

1161
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: to be a banger.

1162
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: You're out of your mind if you think I'm making

1163
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: it to the second half. If I'm needing a giant

1164
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: bowl of kimchi fried rice or something, fair, out of

1165
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: your mind is fair?

1166
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: This is fair. We've got a bunch of these games.

1167
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: You don't have the Friday game on the Run the

1168
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: Board slate because Run the Board is always just for

1169
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: Saturday and beyond. But most of the other games here

1170
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: that I mentioned are going to be on a run

1171
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: the Board slate. Each week you play for fabulous prizes.

1172
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: This week, I think it's going to be even more

1173
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: of a fabulous prize. But stay tuned. Wow, more to

1174
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: come on that front. Yeah, we gotta we got to

1175
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: bring out the big guns for a week like Week

1176
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: seven is a true big freaking week of games, and

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01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: Week eight isn't that much off the pace of Week seven.

1178
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: We Gate looks like a banger too, So just like,

1179
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: do some advance planning. I'm just saying, you know, we're

1180
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: all in this together. Make sure you got your affairs

1181
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: in order. Cuse seven, eight, even nine. These weeks look

1182
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be crazy. Man, it's gonna get crazy.

1183
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Things are gonna start breaking, Chaos is gonna start happening.

1184
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh so a week, Yeah, I'm looking at week right now.

1185
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: USC at Notre Dame. Wee Kate's good too, Okay, yeah,

1186
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: Oregon at Rutgers.

1187
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to come over for that one true

1188
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: drive over?

1189
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: I can't believe Oregon is doing two East coast trips

1190
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: in like three and a half weeks.

1191
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: Okay, ethan calliac manis watch out.

1192
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: It's true? All right, Big news going to Ann Arbor

1193
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: for Washington, Michigan in nineteen ninety one.

1194
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: Banger Yeah yeah, Don James anthology, m hm, all right

1195
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: again for the last time. Soliverbal at gmail dot com

1196
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,440
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ty Scott doggy toys to buy, I do. He's

1207
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Speaker 2: got to keep his two fluffy bitches full of toys showing.

1208
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm showing this one out to the camera. This is

1209
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: a duck with a tennis ball and a rope attached,

1210
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: so we got a lot of swish at the top.

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: We've got a tennis ball in the middle, We've got

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Speaker 1: a rope. All three three of the things that my

1213
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: youngest dog is most obsessed with on one toy.

1214
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: Wow, eating ducks. Go hoosiers. I guess go hoosiers. All right, cool.

1215
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Thank you one and all for your ongoing support of

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Speaker 1: the show. We will be back on Thursday to give

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01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: you a full preview for all that is in store

1218
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: for us here in week seven. In the meantime, you

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1222
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Speaker 1: say that. I won't say it anymore for that guy

1223
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Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie

1224
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Speaker 1: hilding Brand, thank you again for everything. We will talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon as stay solid peace