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Speaker 1: Ty Hildenbrandton, joining me as always over there in beautiful Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 1: You know miss Dan Rubinstein. He said he had some
Speaker 1: raisin bread and a diet coke before hitting the record
Speaker 1: button today, Sir, how are you feeling good?
Speaker 2: I had some centrum silver. I put on a mess
Speaker 2: card again, you know all my pre show rituals that
Speaker 2: really keep the juice flowing. Tie, I'm pretty good. I
Speaker 2: hit a wall. I sort of had the uh you
Speaker 2: know that the high school highlight the players say, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. They had us in the first half,
Speaker 2: right right. I was feeling off in the beginning of
Speaker 2: the afternoon. It's one of those times when you go
Speaker 2: to WebM and you're like my jaw kind of hurts
Speaker 2: and like, oh, you might be having a heart attack.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, it doesn't sound right. So
Speaker 2: I decided to take a shower in a twenty minute
Speaker 2: nap and do some work. And here we are. I'm
Speaker 2: all right. I have bounced back thanks to the good
Speaker 2: people at diet Coke and Raisin Bread. I think it
Speaker 2: was what is it, the sun made sun Made raisin Bread.
Speaker 2: There's not a corporate, not a sponsor. But it also
Speaker 2: got me to thinking, Ty, we have to start, especially
Speaker 2: with as we know it right now, because we don't
Speaker 2: know what the Big ten or Pac twelve's plan is.
Speaker 2: A time of recording as we know it. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a slightly condensed season right correct, which means
Speaker 2: we probably need to start coming up with Saturday nicknames now,
Speaker 2: if not soon.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a really good point, Dan.
Speaker 2: And yesterday I went from my very first run in
Speaker 2: a long long time, and I'm right here with sore
Speaker 2: but soaring Saturday. I don't know if that's too long.
Speaker 2: I know, we love the alliteration. I am, I'm sore,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I feel like the circulation's
Speaker 2: coming back, and there's something about that. With week I
Speaker 2: suppose three of the college football season, even though we're
Speaker 2: a little sore coming off of two very strange weeks,
Speaker 2: and we saw certain things that we weren't expecting. But still,
Speaker 2: it's college football.
Speaker 1: See I think still, I think you've got some games
Speaker 1: bearing the lead here. It's sore because frankly, it sucks.
Speaker 1: There's one good game this weekend, one good high profile
Speaker 1: game this weekend. Miami.
Speaker 2: I guess now that Arkansas State Central Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Exactly Miami at Louisville is the big one, but potentially
Speaker 1: soaring because of the news that the big ten in
Speaker 1: PAC twelve maybe on the verge of announcing a comeback,
Speaker 1: surprisingly soaring, surprisingly soaring. I like that. I think Stephen
Speaker 1: F sowing Steve F. Sorry, no, why don't we get
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Speaker 2: How about that we.
Speaker 1: Had a very acute gentleman and write in and say
Speaker 1: that we should use the word undulating for one of
Speaker 1: our hues. And I say, well, now that the Patriot
Speaker 1: League drum and fife is is off limits for the
Speaker 1: word undulating. It's looking for work.
Speaker 2: Hmm, such a good word.
Speaker 1: Get you to continue. Now we have breaking news or
Speaker 1: perhaps breaking news soon before the end of the show. Dan,
Speaker 1: please monitor.
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep monitoring. Just promise me this. If
Speaker 2: something happens and we need to suddenly start researching and reading,
Speaker 2: will you drop in like a like elevator music, as like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we've took a pause to sort of study up, and
Speaker 2: we're back. I would love a little just like a
Speaker 2: dot weather channel. That's all I want.
Speaker 1: So here's where we're at, folks. We are recording this
Speaker 1: about five PM on Tuesday evening. There has been a
Speaker 1: ton of smoke over the last I would say three
Speaker 1: to four days that the Big ten is on the
Speaker 1: verge of announcing a comeback, that some testing protocols were
Speaker 1: being implemented, perhaps that member institutions were getting to a
Speaker 1: place where they were a lot more comfortable with the
Speaker 1: state of affairs. Purportedly, at time of recording, a vote
Speaker 1: has been cast and the Big Ten is on the
Speaker 1: verge of announcing some sort of comeback for mid to
Speaker 1: late October. There was a group of meetings this weekend
Speaker 1: among the Big Ten's council of Presidents and chancellors. They
Speaker 1: were supposedly moving forward toward this decision. They would let
Speaker 1: schools have the possibility of eight games, which would potentially
Speaker 1: qualify them for the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: A lot of work there with that word yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, the college Football Playoff already has been somewhat push back,
Speaker 1: So it's like there's a whole bunch of nuance there.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of ifs doing heavy lifting. But
Speaker 1: the I think central theme here is that the Big
Speaker 1: Ten is probably on the verge of announcing some sort
Speaker 1: of abbreviated fall college football season. Now, with that being said,
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, what are they doing? Well? Mid to
Speaker 1: late November is the quote most aggressive return date for
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. According to a source, schools in the
Speaker 1: state of California and Oregon have not yet been cleared
Speaker 1: by public health officials to resume contact practices, let alone games.
Speaker 1: The league's presidents and chancellors wouldn't consider a vote to
Speaker 1: return until that status changes. Ideally, the PAC twelve would
Speaker 1: like its teams to have six weeks to practice and
Speaker 1: physically prepare for the season. That again, according to a source.
Speaker 1: I believe I pulled that from ESPN dot com, So
Speaker 1: lot of smoke here. It's hard for me to believe
Speaker 1: at this point that there is no fire. I do
Speaker 1: believe we're going to see both of those conferences back
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form before the end of
Speaker 1: before the middle of let's say November at the latest,
Speaker 1: and that obviously is going to make things very interesting
Speaker 1: from a podcasting and just from a college football fans perspective, like,
Speaker 1: how the hell do we compare teams that aren't playing
Speaker 1: the same number of games that are probably land locked
Speaker 1: into playing their own conferences at this point, Dan a
Speaker 1: lot for us to consider here moving forward, but agreed disagree.
Speaker 1: Abstain from offering comment on whether or not you think
Speaker 1: it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: It has been interesting watching the dynamic of the various
Speaker 2: conferences and some of the talking points, And it'd be
Speaker 2: impossible for us to corral everything that's been said regarding
Speaker 2: the Big ten's return and why and how and precautions
Speaker 2: and steps being taken in terms of rapid testing and
Speaker 2: the thresholds whatever. It's impossible to sort of corral all
Speaker 2: of that information. But it is interesting to watch the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve in a very different mode at the same time,
Speaker 2: where the Big ten is furiously trying to get an
Speaker 2: extension on their dissertation to be able to graduate. Magnekum
Speaker 2: loud in the PAC twelves like sez get degrees. Brother,
Speaker 2: let's just get to that. Let's just walk and that's
Speaker 2: good by us. Yeah, it's fascinating. We'll see what kind
Speaker 2: of vote happens or has already happened, and what the
Speaker 2: threshold is. I know there've been numbers thrown out about
Speaker 2: how many they need to go, and that they're sort
Speaker 2: of targeting and all for one because there were some
Speaker 2: stories about well, you know, the teams that want to play,
Speaker 2: we're going to figure it out. The teams that don't,
Speaker 2: that's cool too. It seems like they're trying to rally
Speaker 2: everybody on one platform, right, that's what you've seen.
Speaker 1: Yes, and answering the questions around, well, if this vote happened,
Speaker 1: and why haven't they come out and announced it yet.
Speaker 1: My hunch is that the Big ten flubbed its first
Speaker 1: announcement so badly, yeah, that they want to make sure
Speaker 1: they've got everything buttoned up this time around, So totally,
Speaker 1: I would expect that if and when they do announce,
Speaker 1: they're going to have a working schedule, They're going to
Speaker 1: have timelines, they're going to have everything that anyone could
Speaker 1: possibly ask about ironed out and ready to send off
Speaker 1: in like a tidy little packet. Because the first announcement
Speaker 1: was no boinno Dan. That did not work out well
Speaker 1: from the conference, What is.
Speaker 2: Your ideal game total at this point, knowing that the
Speaker 2: other power conferences that have already begun player are already
Speaker 2: planned with a date to begin the SEC Big twelve
Speaker 2: and ACC have that ten game situation nine obviously for
Speaker 2: the Big twelve plus one, But what would qualify as
Speaker 2: a base number to get Ohio State into the playoff,
Speaker 2: Because that's not all of this bootooed. Some of it
Speaker 2: what's that base number TI seven seven to seven, qualify
Speaker 2: Ohio State seven and zero or whatever it is, six
Speaker 2: and one, but winning the Big Ten championship, whatever that
Speaker 2: looks like, is that good enough to make an argument
Speaker 2: that they deserve a birth But say, I don't know
Speaker 2: undefeated UCF or one loss Alabama. You know what is
Speaker 2: if we're going to start inventing arguments, which I guess
Speaker 2: we're going to have to do this year, what qualifies
Speaker 2: as a suitable enough season that they've played enough games?
Speaker 2: And this is under the assumption that there have been
Speaker 2: a minimum number of bangers on the schedule, I e.
Speaker 2: You know Michigan Penn State Law six. Six is a minimum.
Speaker 1: I don't know six.
Speaker 2: I would say this is there's no wrong answer, because
Speaker 2: this is literally your opinion.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a definite royal rumble quality to this
Speaker 1: where we're just going to have teams coming in at
Speaker 1: different points in time. I guess six. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many they can get in. And that's part of
Speaker 1: the problem, right, Like if they start, let's say October seventeenth,
Speaker 1: one of the dates I've seen, can they realistically fit
Speaker 1: eight games in before a playoff? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: know that conferences like the Big Twelve, the ACC. I
Speaker 1: think the SEC to some degree have built in bye
Speaker 1: weeks cushions that they could use to flex and move
Speaker 1: games to if need be. Baylors already had to deal
Speaker 1: with that, right, So, like, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: think you could run eight consecutive weeks and expect it
Speaker 1: to work in this current climate. I'm comfortable with six
Speaker 1: as a qualifier for Ohio State. Frankly, you could probably
Speaker 1: get away with three for them, given how loaded they are.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't fly.
Speaker 2: Do you imagine if Ohio State lost twice and just
Speaker 2: weren't in the playoff conversation basically at all? After the
Speaker 2: Big Ten restarted partially to have a team there because
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like Michigan's of that quality, doesn't fully
Speaker 2: seem like Penn State is. But maybe, you know, I
Speaker 2: could definitely be wrong. There's a lot of talent and
Speaker 2: Happy Valley. But wouldn't that be something after all of
Speaker 2: these like Ryan Day quotes saying, well, Alabama's playing, Clemson's playing,
Speaker 2: and then Ohio State goes and loses a couple of games.
Speaker 2: That'd be wild.
Speaker 1: It will be wild more to come on this front.
Speaker 1: I'm my number seven, by the way, my number seven,
Speaker 1: lucky seven. Yeah, we already we already take six to
Speaker 1: be half a season. Seven at least gets me over
Speaker 1: that line, more of a more of a mental block
Speaker 1: for you. There for sure, one hundred percent. It also
Speaker 1: says a lot. And then I promise I'll move on
Speaker 1: about the state of the PAC twelve. Given the fact
Speaker 1: that virtually nobody's talked about the PAC twelve. It's all
Speaker 1: been about the Big ten getting those schools back. And
Speaker 1: you know, whether there's a financial or a political or
Speaker 1: whatever component to it, who knows. No one's been talking
Speaker 1: about the PAC twelve. It came up on ESPN, it
Speaker 1: it almost didn't even register.
Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough because there's not a national interesting
Speaker 2: thing that we have been bemoaning of, you know, sort
Speaker 2: of losing with the conference not playing, you know, you
Speaker 2: lose Big twelve football. There's like the Oklahoma's been in
Speaker 2: the playoff recently and has been you know, Lincoln Riley
Speaker 2: has been a big name and outspoken in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: and you know Heisman finalists and winners recently, and you know,
Speaker 2: the AEC obviously has Clemson and Trevor Lawrence. The SEC
Speaker 2: has their wall to wall pr machine, and the Big
Speaker 2: Ten has you know, Jim Harbaugh and Justin Fields, and
Speaker 2: there isn't that shining star, like, oh man, it's going
Speaker 2: to be strange not have football without Keaton Slovas, Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Lake, Davis Mills, Chase Garber's, like I mean, Herm
Speaker 2: Edwards and all of these things. Though I know you're
Speaker 2: google for Garber's, but there is not that thing that's
Speaker 2: that's going to move the needle right now, like you know,
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly or Pete Carroll, like in recent years even
Speaker 2: Chris Peterson to a lesser extent for somebody in Nashville
Speaker 2: or Louisville or Cleveland, you know what. So it's I
Speaker 2: understand why people are looking at the pack'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: that's fun to watch late, I guess, but you know,
Speaker 2: we got plenty early.
Speaker 1: It's bad in Kansas, it is better.
Speaker 2: I miss it. Ty Oregon has lost its best player
Speaker 2: on offense, both of its starting corners, and they haven't
Speaker 2: even practiced in the fall. It's great, Well, maybe come back.
Speaker 2: You know, there's like a whole open enrollment quality to this.
Speaker 2: We've got right schools and conferences. Opting out now, there
Speaker 2: may be opting back in. I saw Neil Farrell from LSU.
Speaker 1: He opted out now he's expected to opt back in
Speaker 1: Texas A and M had a big time receiver in
Speaker 1: Jamon Osbon decide that he's gonna opt out for the season.
Speaker 1: Sean Wade for Ohio State, potential top ten pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one draft, he has opted out of
Speaker 1: his senior season. May look, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: These are weird times here twenty two.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let I'm gonna let you in on a
Speaker 2: little bit of a secret. Sometimes they take cash advances
Speaker 2: from agents once they declare for the league, and coming
Speaker 2: back becomes less of an option.
Speaker 1: Well, good for them if they should get it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: oh totally, if not, whatever whatever, whatever makes you happy, Dan,
Speaker 1: So okay, I think that's the news. The news is
Speaker 1: that we're going to have two conferences, if not by
Speaker 1: the time you listen to this show, most likely by
Speaker 1: the time we record our next show. Opting back right,
Speaker 1: and we'll do our best cover. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else to say.
Speaker 2: It was very strange. I will say on Sunday morning,
Speaker 2: when I'm usually prepping for our recap show by watching
Speaker 2: what I missed and reading up and seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: if there's any any developing things we should know about
Speaker 2: that happened overnight, stuff like that. There wasn't much, full on,
Speaker 2: wasn't much. It was I usually prep on Sunday mornings
Speaker 2: for what three three and a half hours, and it
Speaker 2: was like a it was a two hour ish prep.
Speaker 2: Very texted.
Speaker 1: We texted each other, this is a much lighter lift
Speaker 1: than usual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, way lighter. I'm ready to preview games though, Ty,
Speaker 2: for sure, let's preview games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's dive in again time the week.
Speaker 1: It's week three. I've not been titling the show like
Speaker 1: week three or week whatever preview because I don't really
Speaker 1: know what the concept, what the construct of a week
Speaker 1: is anymore. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: We took a full twenty seconds to try and figure
Speaker 2: out what today's date was before the show started, speaking
Speaker 2: of washed, that's that's where we are now as a show.
Speaker 2: So I'm totally with you. So what do we call
Speaker 2: in this?
Speaker 1: Suddenly? I keep wanting to say, suddenly, Susan, it's suddenly soar,
Speaker 1: surprisingly soaring.
Speaker 2: Surprisingly surprisingly soaring Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me ask you an important question, then
Speaker 1: put your money where your mouth is. Outside of that
Speaker 1: Miami Louisville game, what game are you most excited about?
Speaker 1: Other than the arkansass that got postponed?
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how Georgia Tech follows up their
Speaker 2: win against Florida State hosting UCF because it appears Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech kind of has a feisty defense at the moment.
Speaker 2: So that's an interesting matchup. BC Duke could be your guy,
Speaker 2: Filled Jrkovich.
Speaker 1: Don't steal my face. Do not steal my thunder, you said, Duke.
Speaker 2: Team ty you liked, You seem to like and respect
Speaker 2: Chase Bryce and the Duke defense, right correct. So that
Speaker 2: that's sort of interesting. I mean there's I think there's
Speaker 2: individual stories more than there is. There are individual matchups,
Speaker 2: like what does Baylor's offense look like against not a
Speaker 2: great defense in Houston? We don't think, but a team
Speaker 2: with some talent is how does Navy bounce back after
Speaker 2: just getting demolished and they were just completely run over
Speaker 2: by BYU. There are they're individual things, and you know what,
Speaker 2: even without primetime matchups that we're getting Power five versus
Speaker 2: Power five for a second consecutive week, where we have
Speaker 2: wake NC State, we've got BC Duke just in the
Speaker 2: acc Syracuse Pitt that that registers to me as a thing,
Speaker 2: and I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal, folks. The action picks up next weekend.
Speaker 2: All right, that's fine.
Speaker 1: If you were to decide, Hey, I'm gonna do some
Speaker 1: home projects or I'm gonna spend the day outside and
Speaker 1: I just won't be able to watch. I think you
Speaker 1: make that trade.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think you make that trade for the old time.
Speaker 1: I know, for the overwhelming majority of our fans, it
Speaker 1: will be good enough to enjoy your Saturday, to listen
Speaker 1: to the recap episode, and to preemptively knowing that all
Speaker 1: of this stuff is coming up. We got crazy. The
Speaker 1: royal rumble of college football is happening this year. Make
Speaker 1: this week, the whole week, your window of opportunity, so
Speaker 1: the whole week. Just do it, band Aid, right off,
Speaker 1: make it happen. You get two weeks of football and
Speaker 1: Ty says that's enough. No, I'm saying that's enough. I am.
Speaker 1: I am showing some foresight here, mister Rubinstein.
Speaker 2: Okay, I disagree. Why there is a chance, a non
Speaker 2: zero chance that things turn right. We're hoping they don't.
Speaker 2: It could be a seven week season, it could be
Speaker 2: a four week season, it could be a nine week season.
Speaker 2: So knowing that things are up in the air, I
Speaker 2: am I am going to recommend you watch Syracuse Pitt
Speaker 2: like it's the super Bowl week of the world.
Speaker 1: Move your week around so you can watch Austin p
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. No, Dan, come on.
Speaker 2: I mean you're the one in love with desmon rit
Speaker 2: or not. I do, So that's something that you can
Speaker 2: hold between you and Austin p I suppose.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean they're just in interesting things to me that even
Speaker 2: if you're watching it in the background while doing other things,
Speaker 2: keep your eyes on college football because like we saw
Speaker 2: last week, there are weird games that are going to
Speaker 2: be happening that we're not anticipating. The Texas State UTSA
Speaker 2: game going to double ot and just going out of
Speaker 2: its mind bonkers. It's worth being in the vicinity of
Speaker 2: a TV if you find out something like that is happening.
Speaker 2: So that's a full on disagree from the Dan man.
Speaker 2: How about that disagree from the dan Man. Okay, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: just we'll roll with that, Daniel.
Speaker 1: Why don't we well, in terms of this week in
Speaker 1: the sleep, why don't we say this, the biggest game
Speaker 1: is definitely Miami Lousville. I think we agree on that.
Speaker 1: It's at seven thirty. My plan of attack, I've got
Speaker 1: a socially distanced birthday party earlier in the day, So
Speaker 1: my plan not close. My plan of attack is going
Speaker 1: to be to be home for that seven thirty game.
Speaker 1: If you're in a similar spot and you got to
Speaker 1: go out and do stuff, try to be back for
Speaker 1: seven thirty.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's talk about games.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about games. You mentioned Baylor. Baylor is squaring
Speaker 1: off against Houston at high noon on Fox. Is it
Speaker 1: the big noonon I guess it would be the big noon,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Houston at Baylor. I'm seeing the line all the
Speaker 1: way down to four and a half now touchdown before Yeah,
Speaker 1: of the Baylor Bears. This game came about because both
Speaker 1: Houston and Baylor had postponements and they were just looking
Speaker 1: for warm bodies on September the nineteenth, so lo and behold,
Speaker 1: here we are. We've got the Koog's We've got the Bears.
Speaker 1: I would never bet this game in a million years.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen anything from either team. Baylor's whole staff,
Speaker 1: their entire defense, it's new. I love Chas Brewer, always have.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching that old line, though there were
Speaker 1: too many moving pieces. Last year. They gave up the
Speaker 1: most sacks in the Big Twelve. They got to keep
Speaker 1: Chaz healthier. The whole thing's going to collapse like a
Speaker 1: house cards. I'm taking points here, whether it's seven, whether
Speaker 1: it's four and a half, I don't care. Give me
Speaker 1: the points Houston plus the points.
Speaker 2: Houston had a defense last year only because they put
Speaker 2: eleven guys on the field on defense. That was the
Speaker 2: extent of it. They were truly awful, especially with how
Speaker 2: they finished out the year. I think they lost four
Speaker 2: or five. They gave up forty five to Memphis, fifty
Speaker 2: six to Navy. They gave up a ton of points.
Speaker 2: I think it was UCF. They gave up a bunch.
Speaker 2: The Houston defense is not good, and even if it
Speaker 2: improves this year, it's going to improve to not horrible,
Speaker 2: but still pretty rough. So I'm inclined. Even though the
Speaker 2: spread came down to what you said about four four
Speaker 2: and a half points.
Speaker 1: I see it on fandle of three and a half.
Speaker 2: Now, maybe somebody knows something that we don't in terms
Speaker 2: of Baylor players not playing. That's always the weird, awkward
Speaker 2: element of the spreads this year, I don't know when
Speaker 2: it comes down by half. So well, I'm going to
Speaker 2: roll with Baylor just because the Houston defense appears to
Speaker 2: be the worst thing in this game. But we have
Speaker 2: no concept for Baylor right now after a cancelation, and
Speaker 2: we have no concept for Houston at all. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to take the team playing at home
Speaker 2: with even and not starting a ton of transfers like
Speaker 2: Houston is. So yeah, give me Baylor.
Speaker 1: Also at high noon, this one on ESPN, not the
Speaker 1: Big Noon but high noon ESPN Tulsa at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's about twenty one and a half twenty two
Speaker 1: point favorite here at home. I don't really have further
Speaker 1: analysis on this game, Dan, I'd say go back listen
Speaker 1: to the Big twelve preview for the deep dive of
Speaker 1: the Pokes. They should be really good this year. They
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys back. As we said then,
Speaker 1: I think it truly does come down to Spencer Sanders
Speaker 1: because the weapons are there in offense. The defense might
Speaker 1: be one of the best that Mike Gundy's had in
Speaker 1: his time in Stillwater. So it is going to be
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's game here. They're going to win this game.
Speaker 1: It is a question of by how much. And even
Speaker 1: if you don't watch this game, you should watch other
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State games because they should be pretty dog gone good.
Speaker 2: They played last year in Tulsa and it was actually
Speaker 2: pretty competitive for a while. And Tulsa finishes last in
Speaker 2: their division in the American, but they played some really
Speaker 2: good teams tightly SMU and Memphis. Namely, Tulsa was one
Speaker 2: of those teams, not fully as bad as their record.
Speaker 2: I think they were two and six in the American
Speaker 2: last year. As bad as the record indicates, still a
Speaker 2: number of issues Oklahoma State, you know, we have not
Speaker 2: seen in any sort of important way. So I think, man,
Speaker 2: I had a pick for this, now I'm going back
Speaker 2: on it. I think I'm gonna go with Tulsa actually
Speaker 2: really to cover, not to win. Their defense was actually
Speaker 2: fine last year and I do like the offensive minds there.
Speaker 2: They had a really rough schedule in the middle of
Speaker 2: last year, but they were still They scored forty one
Speaker 2: against Memphis. They scored thirty seven against SMU. These aren't
Speaker 2: great def fences. They beat UCF score thirty four in
Speaker 2: the process. They beat ECU in their bowl game, so
Speaker 2: you know what, not in their bowl game. Excuse me
Speaker 2: just to end the year, I just I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with Tulsa to Hang. I think that their competence floor
Speaker 2: is pretty high. So with the weird start of the
Speaker 2: Big twelve season, yeah, let's go Tulsa to Hang and
Speaker 2: lose by thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 1: Some other noon games, we'll move quickly through these. We'll
Speaker 1: list them all, but just talk about the ones, as
Speaker 1: we did last week that we think are intriguing. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Syracuse and Pit on ACC Network. Pits about a
Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty two point favorite. They are coming
Speaker 1: off a game in which they won so badly that
Speaker 1: they shortened the whole thing by ten minutes played ten
Speaker 1: minute quarters in the second half against Austin p Cues.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, they were in that ugly game
Speaker 1: kicking in a gouge and dan in the mud and
Speaker 1: the blood and the beer against North Carolina. I like
Speaker 1: pitt to win. Very good defense, one of the best
Speaker 1: defenses in all the ACC I'm still uncomfortable laying three
Speaker 1: touchdowns though with the pit Panthers, Like there's a pat
Speaker 1: nar Dows equality that I can't quite put my finger
Speaker 1: on where they could end up winning this game thirteen
Speaker 1: to ten, Right, So I gotta go Syracuse plus whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Syracuse as well. This is
Speaker 2: a friendly reminder that for a lot of these teams,
Speaker 2: this is especially the Power five ones, this is their
Speaker 2: second game of the year. What do I always like
Speaker 2: to say going into the second game of the year
Speaker 2: at this is where major major improvement from a week
Speaker 2: to week basis will occur the worst. If you have
Speaker 2: a truly almost uncharacteristic level of incompetence in week one. Generally,
Speaker 2: it's not that you are just a fully incompetent team,
Speaker 2: it's just that fall camp didn't go your way and
Speaker 2: you weren't ready for live action. You had a bunch
Speaker 2: of new coaches or new players, in the case of Syracuse,
Speaker 2: new coordinators on both sides. There's gonna be a jump
Speaker 2: between week two and week one, just in figuring out
Speaker 2: what to diagnose and what to adjust. And so I
Speaker 2: don't think Syracuse is better than Pitt. They were a
Speaker 2: touchdown worse last year. Do I think Pitt is suddenly
Speaker 2: fourteen points better at home? And because it's twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: I don't think necessarily no. So I think that's too
Speaker 2: many points. The fact that we're looking at Pitt as
Speaker 2: a three touchdown favorite in the ACC just doesn't feel
Speaker 2: based in reality. So give me Syracuse with at times
Speaker 2: of promising defense, to keep it a little closer than that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it'll end up being something like
Speaker 2: twenty eight to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Pitt also at hihnuon this one on ESPN three. You
Speaker 1: teased it earlier. It is Boston College at Duke, the
Speaker 1: Blue Devilty six and a half point home favorite. Bc
Speaker 1: DAN one of four ACC teams along with I guess
Speaker 1: NC State and the two Virginia schools that did not
Speaker 1: play last week this week, it is not a moment
Speaker 1: too soon. We've been struggling through the pandemic DAN and
Speaker 1: wildfires emotionally and mentally not physically, let's be clear, and
Speaker 1: social and political unrest correct and amid all that filled
Speaker 1: Yourkovi's herky jerky delivery could be the one thing that
Speaker 1: unites humanity.
Speaker 2: Like in favor of, or in recognition of, or in
Speaker 2: warship of, in what way.
Speaker 1: Well for me, in worship of, but in recognition of,
Speaker 1: to say the very least, he transferred over former four star.
Speaker 2: We do love herky jerky deliveries, especially when the name
Speaker 2: has jerk in it. But yeah, all hailed. Taylor Martinez
Speaker 2: is shot putting for sure.
Speaker 1: Filled your kovic. Former four star kid from PA was
Speaker 1: behind Ian book. I used to be really high on him,
Speaker 1: transferred over from Notre Dame because it didn't work out,
Speaker 1: which happens.
Speaker 2: Who is your favorite former Notre Dame quarterback transfer that
Speaker 2: you were unusually high on because you were I was
Speaker 2: getting messages from you about Malik Zayr's junior high school tape.
Speaker 1: You's got to be Malik Zayer Okay from Zionsville, Ohio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on him when he was a sophomore.
Speaker 2: You love Brandon brand, Brandon Wimbush's arm. There was something.
Speaker 2: There's something about you and fully overrating quarterbacks who don't
Speaker 2: know not only don't cut it at Notre Dame, but
Speaker 2: transfer out because they got to cut it somewhere.
Speaker 1: Runner Keel, What up, Gunner Keel? Yeah, Yeah, I've got
Speaker 1: a storied history of this. Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like the George Whitfield of not evaluating quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Okay, continue, So Drkovic.
Speaker 1: His mechanics are a little wonky, and the announcers are
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. They are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't been named the starter yet, right. I
Speaker 2: think it's like a game time. It's him and Dennis Grossel.
Speaker 2: Grossel who's going to start a quarterback?
Speaker 1: I think so, But you got to give it to field.
Speaker 1: Dr Coovic. Man, if you're forced to watch this game,
Speaker 1: I have as a center space my filed your Covic
Speaker 1: awkward mechanics, bing go card, the word unorthodox. Drink every
Speaker 1: time they say the word unorthodox to talk about filed
Speaker 1: your Kovic's throwing motion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two teams did not play last year. Duke,
Speaker 2: what did you say about five and a half six
Speaker 2: point favorite in this Yeah?
Speaker 1: I see it about six six and a half now, Okay.
Speaker 1: I like Duke a good amount for a couple different reasons. Mostly,
Speaker 1: they've already played, so they know where the rust is,
Speaker 1: they know where the grease is. I don't know where
Speaker 1: I'm going with this analogy. But also BC hasn't played
Speaker 1: an ACC team. BC doesn't know what to expect out
Speaker 1: of two new coordinators and a new head coach and
Speaker 1: possibly a new starting quarterback and traveling on the road
Speaker 1: during these uncertain times. So yeah, I'm gonna take Duke
Speaker 1: just more sure of itself right now to win by
Speaker 1: seven or eight points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the Blue Devil here.
Speaker 1: Actually thought Duke looked pretty good last week.
Speaker 2: But totally I don't have a lean.
Speaker 1: I'm going BC plus six and a half, give me
Speaker 1: the Jerky Boys plus the plus the number Dan.
Speaker 2: What if he doesn't even play Ty.
Speaker 1: He'll play Dan. He's filling for Codec.
Speaker 2: Just making sure. That's all I got.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, next we disagree, I guess let's rifle
Speaker 1: through these other ones pretty quickly. At high noon on ABC,
Speaker 1: Navy at Tulane seven and a half is your point spread?
Speaker 1: We had the come from behind victory for Tulane last week.
Speaker 1: They're at home. Meanwhile, Navy got demolished by BYU. I
Speaker 1: am gonna go points here as well. I thought about
Speaker 1: locking up Navy. I still might because same come from
Speaker 1: behind you want to go double barrel? Should we do it?
Speaker 2: I'm why not?
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm not held accountable.
Speaker 1: Look of the week. I believe that the game against
Speaker 1: BYU was an aberration. It helps to have that one
Speaker 1: game under their belt. They still run a tight ship
Speaker 1: with a quirky offense to triumph oh.
Speaker 2: Put a Navy pun unintentional but well done, well.
Speaker 1: Struck, and Tulane coming off that come from behind win.
Speaker 1: Now coming back home, this seems like a really good
Speaker 1: opportunity for Navy to, if not win, certainly take the
Speaker 1: air out of the ball, keep it closed. Tou Lane's
Speaker 1: a defensive minded team to begin with. I just I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like a three point four point game
Speaker 1: one way or the other.
Speaker 2: So Navy's been doing this thing even it wasn't new
Speaker 2: to this year, but the degree to which they do
Speaker 2: it was because of the circumstances around the world. But
Speaker 2: maybe didn't tackle in fall camp like essentially at all right,
Speaker 2: and Ken Neomodalolo after the loss of BYU said, all right,
Speaker 2: touch football's over. We are going to go practice tackling
Speaker 2: because that is apparent that after the BYU game, it's
Speaker 2: something that we need to work on maybe tackled in
Speaker 2: practice and has been tackling in practice. Tulane with the
Speaker 2: potential letdown spot after their tit win last week. Like
Speaker 2: you mentioned, Navy, you're not as bad as you are
Speaker 2: on your worst day when you lose by fifty two
Speaker 2: to BYU, and you're an FBS team and you have
Speaker 2: a history of competence. If not good football, that's your
Speaker 2: worst day. Navy's not going to repeat that sort of performance.
Speaker 2: So even though it could be a bad matchup, if
Speaker 2: Navy truly can't stop the run and we know Tulane
Speaker 2: should be able to run it all year long, I'm
Speaker 2: still going to go with the midshipman to at least
Speaker 2: keep it closer than what it's seven and seven and
Speaker 2: a half something in that range. Give me the give
Speaker 2: me those Navy points. I'm happy to take them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, double barrel lock. Let's go Navy and give me
Speaker 1: the bid shipman. All right, Okay, two other games at
Speaker 1: high noon, not going to go through these. We've got
Speaker 1: Austin p at Cincinnati. Cincinnati's about a thirty five point favorite,
Speaker 1: and then we've got a Liberty on the road at
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. That line is up to fourteen and one half.
Speaker 2: Though, yeah, I'm gonna take the toppers, you know how
Speaker 2: I feel about them.
Speaker 1: At three point thirty on ABC. I think the headlining
Speaker 1: game in this mid afternoon slot would probably be UCF
Speaker 1: at Georgia. Tech line is about seven and a half
Speaker 1: in favorite UCFTER on the road. At one point, I
Speaker 1: haven't looked lately, it looked to me like it was
Speaker 1: probably going to come down to seven. I am taking
Speaker 1: UCF here. Tech's off the really big win over Florida State, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a letdown effect here against UCF.
Speaker 2: I mean, there has to be right.
Speaker 1: I would think there would have to be right. UCF
Speaker 1: is fresh, the down, a bunch of guys, and you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what it's going to look like coming out
Speaker 1: of the shoot for them in game number one. But
Speaker 1: I do think it's too much offense for Tech. Even
Speaker 1: if UCF is rusty, they've got enough back on offense.
Speaker 1: They play good enough on offense. There's a number of
Speaker 1: players though, I know, but I just I still think
Speaker 1: they're too good. It's something like thirty eight to twenty four.
Speaker 1: Give me UCF minus in number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with UCF here as well, and
Speaker 2: it does. It doesn't go against my rule of oh
Speaker 2: a team of a good defense at home as an underdog.
Speaker 2: We don't know if Georgia Tech has a good defense.
Speaker 2: We know Florida State has offensive issues and that Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech put themselves in a really good position defensively to
Speaker 2: take advantage. UCF should win this game by a couple touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of an overreaction to Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech's win against Florida State. So this would in a
Speaker 2: normal like if this were Week five this year and
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech largely looks similar to how they looked against
Speaker 2: Florida State, but we had more data. It feels like
Speaker 2: eleven or twelve point spread for UCF, even on the road. Agreed,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take the Knights here.
Speaker 1: A bunch of other games here that you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think are of much consequence, So I'll just rattle
Speaker 1: through them here and feel free to interject if anything
Speaker 1: jumps out at you. Dan Charlotte at North Carolina. North
Speaker 1: Carolina a twenty eight point favorite. This one's at three
Speaker 1: thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 2: Three nice ending to their year last season, not a
Speaker 2: great start to their twenty twenty for Charlotte, so I
Speaker 2: think this is going to be a nice jump from
Speaker 2: North Carolina week one to week two. So I feel
Speaker 2: comfortable in the heels giving four touchdowns for sure.
Speaker 1: On the Notre Dame side of the ACC, we've got
Speaker 1: a matchup against USF. This is a game that they
Speaker 1: added to the slate a little bit later on after
Speaker 1: they knew they had an open date. They are a
Speaker 1: twenty six point home favorite here, mister Rubinstein. I you know,
Speaker 1: I always take points against Notre Dame. It's just sort
Speaker 1: of my shtick. But I would say that I am
Speaker 1: looking to see if they can improve upon what they
Speaker 1: did in the passing game. What we saw out of
Speaker 1: Kien Williams on the ground was really impressive. I think
Speaker 1: this is another opportunity for Iaan Book to build some
Speaker 1: rapport with his wide receivers, to throw down the field
Speaker 1: a little bit more, make some more chances. Looking at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame schedule, they've got this game this week against USF.
Speaker 1: They're on the road at Wake the following week before
Speaker 1: a bye, and that's when they start getting into the
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of the schedule. That's when they get to
Speaker 1: a game against Florida State, maybe not quite as gritty
Speaker 1: as we thought at the start of the year. But
Speaker 1: there's a game against Louisville as you get to October seventeenth.
Speaker 1: After that, a road tilt against pitt which is not
Speaker 1: going to be an easy game for Notre Dame. It
Speaker 1: never is. Then there's a road tilt against Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: before coming back home first weekend of November to square
Speaker 1: off against Clemson. So it gets tougher in a hurry.
Speaker 1: Here for the Irish, I would like to see some
Speaker 1: progress on offense to start feeling a little bit more
Speaker 1: confident about where this season is headed.
Speaker 2: There is an emotional component to this game tie that
Speaker 2: you have conveniently skipped over.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about USF. Don't make me
Speaker 1: talk about the USF game.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about twenty ten. I promise you
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that was Brian Kelly's first season,
Speaker 2: right twenty ten. I was not a great moment for
Speaker 2: Notre Dame football. No, an emotional component as it relates
Speaker 2: to something just before then. USF's offensive coordinator is Charlie
Speaker 2: Weist Junior and there's a major revenge play here, tie
Speaker 2: major other than the fact that USFS offense was pretty
Speaker 2: terrible last year without him, and I don't think they're
Speaker 2: going to improve to really good. USF started out twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen losing by fifty in a shutout forty nine. I
Speaker 2: guess to Wisconsin. They finished the year terribly. They exclusively
Speaker 2: beat up on truly awful teams, and I guess BYU
Speaker 2: last year, and with so many new faces on the sideline,
Speaker 2: on the coaching staff, and so much work to do
Speaker 2: on offense, I just don't see them hanging with Notre
Speaker 2: Dame anywhere near what Notre Dame should be capable of,
Speaker 2: even with a decent USF defense. So yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins is by thirty five.
Speaker 1: Let me rattle off five other games that kick off
Speaker 1: between one thirty and four o'clock in that mid afternoon slate.
Speaker 1: App State minus four and a half at Marshall. We've
Speaker 1: got Stephen F. Austin at UTSA, Florida Atlantic at Georgia Southern.
Speaker 1: We've got Troy three point road favorite against Middle Tennessee
Speaker 1: State looked awful, just awful in their first game, and
Speaker 1: finally the Citadel a forty four and a half point
Speaker 1: dog on the road at Clemson at four o'clock on
Speaker 1: the ACC Network. Any thoughts on any of those games?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think app State should be a touchdown favorite.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to actually double up double lock this week,
Speaker 2: keeping the Mountaineers here on the road.
Speaker 1: Of the week.
Speaker 2: Mars offense. I like that play, Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: So Marshall had a postpone. Their their rhythm I think
Speaker 2: is gonna be a little off. They had a postpone
Speaker 2: matchup against I think it was East Carolina. Last week
Speaker 2: they laid waste to Eastern Kentucky and week whatever that
Speaker 2: was zero one and a half. I don't know. But
Speaker 2: with the weird a rhythmic season that Marshall's having, and
Speaker 2: I still really do like app State in the experience
Speaker 2: that they have On offense, they generate a lot of big,
Speaker 2: exciting run plays. And I don't fully think I trust
Speaker 2: Marshall's defense. I mean, it's a pretty good defense for sure,
Speaker 2: but I think you need better to hang with app
Speaker 2: State and app State got a nice little scare last week.
Speaker 2: Give me app State by ten or thirteen points here, not.
Speaker 1: Gonna lock it. Up, but I agree. Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: to the headliner. Dan seven point thirty ABC, Miami the
Speaker 1: swagger is.
Speaker 2: Back touchdown rings. Did you see those? The touchdown rings?
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Miami on the road at Louisville. Louisville two, two
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite is a night cap, Dan,
Speaker 1: I know you've got a thing. I've got a thing
Speaker 1: for Louisville and her boy McHale Cunningham. Okay, now they're
Speaker 1: going to score points. How do you feel about this game?
Speaker 2: Well, I watched this game last year, and I watched
Speaker 2: Miami beat them by twenty five unexpectedly in the midst
Speaker 2: of a very strange season. I think I like Miami here.
Speaker 2: I think I like Miami because their defense should travel
Speaker 2: well enough. And I didn't love what I saw from
Speaker 2: the Louisville offensive line at times, and what Michaal Cunningham
Speaker 2: looked under pressure, if I'm nitpicking, and the combination combination
Speaker 2: of Quincy Roche the Temple transfer and Jalen Phillips the
Speaker 2: UCLA transfer, and what their corners look like. And granted
Speaker 2: it was against UAB, I actually like Miami here. I
Speaker 2: think what we saw out of the Louisville defense against
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky was an indication of some improvement, but it's
Speaker 2: still mostly the same players who gave up a ton
Speaker 2: on the ground all of last year, and that's where
Speaker 2: Miami is thriving right now. And Miami gave up big
Speaker 2: plays through the air last year to a lot of teams.
Speaker 2: But still a good defense. I think Miami's combination of
Speaker 2: controlling the ball, they should be able to control the
Speaker 2: ball somewhat on the ground and get after Michael Cunningham,
Speaker 2: who we obviously both are crushing on mall. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I'm giving the edge right now to that combination
Speaker 2: over Louisville and a still large question mark in their defense.
Speaker 2: So yep, I'm taking the Canes.
Speaker 1: We are once again very like minded here, Dan, Yes
Speaker 1: or no, no, no, I don't want you don't want that.
Speaker 1: I know my hesitation is the same as yours. The
Speaker 1: defense was really bad for Louisville a year ago, and
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, first year everything right, That's sort.
Speaker 2: Of good against Western though they did a good job
Speaker 2: against PIGGYT on the ground and that that rushing attack
Speaker 2: they did. They were very good against the run.
Speaker 1: Last week for sure, absolutely, and they're going to be
Speaker 1: better this year. There's enough backs out going to be better.
Speaker 1: They're going to take a stride forward. But Miami's offense
Speaker 1: showed something a week ago, especially on the ground. They
Speaker 1: looked really solid. You know, say what you want about
Speaker 1: a win over UA B, but UAB should have a
Speaker 1: pretty good defense they did a year ago. So this
Speaker 1: whole like renaissance now that we're seeing in Miami is
Speaker 1: intriguing to me, especially if they can really develop that
Speaker 1: rushing attack, and due to Louisville what we saw them
Speaker 1: do to UAB, I'm with you. I'm doing the unthinkable here.
Speaker 1: I'm going Miami outright. I think Miami is bringing the
Speaker 1: swagger back and up to Louisville. Here. I'm gonna go Canes.
Speaker 1: Let's say thirty one to twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Weirdly enough, yeah, I'm good with that. Weirdly enough, if
Speaker 2: you look at Miami's last season, which put as much
Speaker 2: stock as you'd like in twenty nineteen results, but Miami
Speaker 2: a little bit more impressive I think on the road.
Speaker 2: So it was Yeah, they won against pitt they beat
Speaker 2: Florida State. They're embarrassments. I guess they lost at Duke,
Speaker 2: but they lost FIU at home. It was a bowl
Speaker 2: game against Louisiana Attack, but the Georgia Tack loss came
Speaker 2: at home, and they did beat Virginia at home, but
Speaker 2: they lost to Virginia Tack at home, giving up forty
Speaker 2: two in the process. So I think there may be
Speaker 2: something about this many Diaz squad on the road. They
Speaker 2: just might be coming together a little bit more, might
Speaker 2: be able to block out. I don't know who knows,
Speaker 2: but give me, give me the canes here.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Manny Diaz's father was once the
Speaker 1: mayor of Miami?
Speaker 2: Hold on, tell me more, Please tell me more.
Speaker 1: All right? Also in the nightcap eight pm ACC Network,
Speaker 1: We've got Wake, We've got NC State. We haven't seen
Speaker 1: NC State yet. We will get our first look at
Speaker 1: them here. I was not high on the wolf Pack
Speaker 1: at all after the preview. They're only a two and
Speaker 1: a half point favorite here against a Wake team that
Speaker 1: got destroyed against Clemson. I'm gonna wait to reserve judgment.
Speaker 1: Just don't know enough about this NC State squad yet.
Speaker 1: But as I'm looking across the slate of other games
Speaker 1: that are going to be played after dark, outside of
Speaker 1: what SMU or maybe La Tech. There isn't a whole
Speaker 1: lot of meat on that nightcap. You really got slim
Speaker 1: pickets for which game you want to watch?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're correct. I like Wake here. I like Wake
Speaker 2: because they've played a game. I know they're beat up
Speaker 2: at quarterback. N C State hasn't, and so there is
Speaker 2: that the lack of rust grease factor. Is that what
Speaker 2: we're gonna call it for Wake Forest? I like Wake here.
Speaker 2: N C State was the most overrated team against the
Speaker 2: spread last season among Power five schools, like we mentioned
Speaker 2: on our ACC preview two and ten against the spread
Speaker 2: last season. It's a new team, there are new coaches,
Speaker 2: for sure. The game is in Raleigh. But I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with Wake here. I think Wake is a little
Speaker 2: more solid, a little bit more proven, and everybody's going
Speaker 2: to look like what Wake did against Clemson this year
Speaker 2: in the ACC. If you are not, I don't know, Louisville, Miami,
Speaker 2: whoever they end up playing, I'm gonna I'm gonna happily
Speaker 2: take way care against n C State. Give me, give
Speaker 2: me the.
Speaker 1: Decks, some other action. In the latter half of your Saturday.
Speaker 1: We've got to you a fourteen point Favorite at North Texas.
Speaker 1: That one's at six pm. We've got games Texas State
Speaker 1: at Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Tech at Southern Miss. We've got
Speaker 1: Abilene Christian at You Tip Dan, and then there was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a game Central Arkansas against Arkansas State
Speaker 1: that's been subsequently postponed because they weren't sure they could
Speaker 1: feel the team due to you guessed it, ongoing coronavirus
Speaker 1: type scenarios. So, like I said, not a lot there
Speaker 1: any of those games jump out at you.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see SMU separate from North Texas after
Speaker 2: I think Texas State might have some fight in them
Speaker 2: this year. But I'd like to see the Stangs. Do
Speaker 2: they call themselves the Stangs? I don't know. I'd like
Speaker 2: to see some separation there. Southern Miss curious to see
Speaker 2: what they look like with the new coach after firing
Speaker 2: Jay Hopson and Louisiana tack having. I think they were
Speaker 2: the reason why the Baylor game got canceled, So maybe
Speaker 2: Southern Miss has some new life with a new coach. Otherwise, no,
Speaker 2: but I do tie have some Colonial League action coming
Speaker 2: up in.
Speaker 1: You won't do it a full week in advance. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just it's our preview. Oh, our preview.
Speaker 2: You were talking about the frauds at Catasauqua.
Speaker 1: How do you a bunch of frauds? We have?
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's Northwestern Lehigh at Bangor. Banger was just Banger,
Speaker 2: Banger because it's Bangor, Maine. But it's just Banger, Okay.
Speaker 1: Bangor is where Julie the Kat's from. Banger is in
Speaker 1: the Colonial League.
Speaker 2: Salisbury and Notre Dame. You know, anybody went to either
Speaker 2: one of those.
Speaker 1: It's a Notre Dame Green Pond. Just to make sure
Speaker 1: that everyone is clear. And I do know folks who
Speaker 1: have been to both schools.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Palisades at Northern Lehigh is there's a Northern and
Speaker 2: Northwestern Lehigh here.
Speaker 1: There's also a Southern Lehigh. Bunch of Lehighs in this
Speaker 1: area's Lehigh Valley. After all, Do.
Speaker 2: You have a do you have a team in the
Speaker 2: Colonial League? Do you want to drop the drum and
Speaker 2: fife for Are you looking for the sound as we speak?
Speaker 2: You know? But I'm going to go Northwestern Lehigh. Northwestern
Speaker 2: lived not far away from Northwestern University, and I went
Speaker 2: to college in the northwest of the United States. So
Speaker 2: the Northwestern Lehigh whatever panthers, I don't know what they are.
Speaker 2: That's my squad. I'm rolling deep with them.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Southern Lehigh. Why not? Okay, I
Speaker 1: played against a kid who had a hell of a
Speaker 1: curve ball from Lee Heighten and he just made fools
Speaker 1: of the entire Northampton varsity baseball team back in the day.
Speaker 1: So it's certainly not them. But let's go south.
Speaker 2: What is what is your plan? You mentioned you're going
Speaker 2: to a party. What is your plan food wise? What
Speaker 2: is your plan? Watch wise? Have you set up the
Speaker 2: outside situation for Saturday game watching? What is Saturday going
Speaker 2: to look like football wise for you? Knowing that I
Speaker 2: guess you're only watching Louisville Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's a good question because I am
Speaker 1: not hosting the party, so I don't have much control
Speaker 1: over the watch party, the watch setting, or the food
Speaker 1: or anything for that matter. So short of suiting up
Speaker 1: with your mask and trying to keep your distance and
Speaker 1: launchairs and hopefully it's a nice day, I guess maybe
Speaker 1: bring the extra battery pack for the phone and stream
Speaker 1: whatever I can. But I'll keep you posted. I don't
Speaker 1: know I honestly don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing new for me. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be eating. I know where I'll be watching it
Speaker 2: in my living room. And I'm damn excited. Ty, I
Speaker 2: am damn excited. And I'm also excited to do the
Speaker 2: UFO Show on Friday.
Speaker 1: I am as well.
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Speaker 2: and the UFO shows go into a new place this week. Ty,
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I am as well.
Speaker 2: All right, fun show, don't for Western Lehigh as one.
Speaker 2: And oh shout out to the Tigers and head coach
Speaker 2: Josh Snyder. They took down palisades in Kindersville, PA thirty
Speaker 2: six to twenty eight September eleventh. Oh man, Ty's the
Speaker 2: mark here. It was a great sug I am hitched
Speaker 2: to the right wagon here, so we can do that now,
Speaker 2: I promise.
Speaker 1: I'm all new.
Speaker 2: Triple EPA neutripoli, nutripolic.
Speaker 1: How do you guys pronounce.
Speaker 2: Anything out there?
Speaker 1: Triply? That's in Libya?
Speaker 2: Dan, Come on, you see t R I p O
Speaker 2: l I. That's how you pronounce it.
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Speaker 1: Rubinstein all the way over there in Chicago, Illinois. For myself,
Speaker 1: Ty Hildenbrandt here in East turn Pennsylvania, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for downloading, for listening. We'll catch you all on Friday.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Stay solid.
Speaker 2: Peace you think your squad's taken down. Justin Holmes and
Speaker 2: Nick Henry, the Pride of Northwestern Lehigh and the Tigers
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