1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: And welcome to No Dunks, the original basketball podcast. I'm 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: your host for today, Trey Kirby and joining me here 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: in the yard. It's tas Mellis. 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: What's going on, Trey? 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh, we got some stuff to talk about. Teams are 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: getting back to their cities. They're showing up at their arenas, 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: they're putting on jerseys, they're putting on shorts, they're talking 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: to the press. They're saying some interesting stuff. And we're 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the most interesting things we've heard from 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: what I don't know six teams. Maybe ye had their 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: media day or something like that. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: M m. They're talking. 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna hit We're gonna hit the updown Report 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: and talk about our favorite stuff that has come out 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: this week. And yeah, chime in on the stream team, 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: let us know if you're up or down on all 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: these things. Definitely the buzziest story from media day thus far, 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. He's looking he is looking skinny. 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, got that photo. We got that photo. We've got 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: to show with you if you're here on YouTube. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a this is a good Zion photo 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: in the red T shirt looking cut. There was also 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: the one that the Pelicans put out just like a 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: like a glamour shot basically of Zion looked great and 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: that one as well. Zion said he's been boxing, he's 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: been doing some working out on a football field and 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: just different random workouts. Said he hasn't felt like this 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: since college. So tess up or down on skinny Zion Williamson. 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this. I am up. I'm 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: buying it because this isn't just about him losing weight 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: in the off season. Try. This is about a couple 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: of things. This is about him getting right during last season. 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Those comments he was making about those workouts were about 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: when he came back from that hamstring injury, talking to 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: his trainer, getting his trainer working out differently, like you said, 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: on the football field and all that, and he it 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: felt good to feel good, as he said. 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: I like that. 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't just about the offseason. This was last year. 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: He played six games, he came back and was getting 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: right with his trainer, and then at the end of 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: the year he's kind of on and off. The Pelicans 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: were just dead. So I think this is about him 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: getting into different mindset, and it's also about a new 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: leadership in the front office that is going to hold 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: him accountable. That he was. I watched every single minute 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: of this press conference tray, so none of you had to. 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: I would say Zion Williamson smiled more than he's ever smiled, 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: and a lot of it was because he was talking 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: about Joe Dumars leading that front office and him holding 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: Zion accountable. His first comment about Joe Dumars was I 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 2: like Joe, and he kept saying he's going to hold 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: me accountable. Slip up, He'll be right there to make 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: sure I get right back on the path. And you 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: might say, come on, Zion has done this before. But 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: I do think it is a change here, and why 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: can't it happen here when he's twenty five years old. 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: This is going to be his seventh year in the NBA, 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: although his only his sixth year playing. Can he not change? 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean? 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: Going on in that press conference, he was asked about 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: c J. McCollum and how he left, and he gave 63 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: the CJ McCollum a lot of love and he said, quote, 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, he helped me where I am and all that, 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: and then he said, quote making this transition easier. Who says, 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: making this transition, I mean I found that going to 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: be corporate speak. It is corporate speak. And I do 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: think though that finally, at some point he's learned to 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: get skinny. And again, I don't think it was July 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: and here he is, oh yeah, same thing. I think 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: this was a whole year process. He played six games, 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: he came back after a while after months in that year. 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: Here he is injured. So I don't see him getting 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: injured like that. Again, Am I doing this a little 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: too early? 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Tray? 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: What do you think? 78 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Well? I'm with Andrew Williams here in the stream team 79 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: who says people are always falling for the Zion stuff 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: and then follows it up by saying, I am people. 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Guess what we're people too. I'll take the Fell FOURD 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: Award for skinny Zion. He looks great. Uh. I don't 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 1: know if the Pelicans are gonna be good this season. 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: They got a really weird mix of players. They obviously 85 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: did the Derek Queen trade. They drafted Jeremiah Fears in 86 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: the first round as well, traded for Jordan Poole. A 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: lot has been happening, so I don't know if they're 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a good team, but I'm bullish on Zion. 89 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play a lot. It kind of 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: tends to go play very few games, then play sixty games, 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: then play very few games, then play sixty games. I 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: don't know if this is gonna happen, but Zion has 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: played more than thirty games in a season twice in 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: those six seasons he's played. Obviously, he missed an entire 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: season as well. Well, I'll go out on a limb. 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be the third season 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: of Zion Williamson's career that he plays at least sixty games. 98 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: So if I'm looking like a fool when he goes 99 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: down with a hamstring injury in the middle of December, 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: so be it. I'm rooting for the guy. When he's 101 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: on the court. He's an awesome player to watch, and 102 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: he looks the most fit he ever has. If you're 103 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna compare to his media media day look last year, 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: it's like the guy grew cheekbones. Oh, it does sound 105 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: like he's been working for quite some time. And then, 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 1: like I said, I did love that quote. It feels 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: good to feel good. That's so right. So hopefully he's 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Ion is a real thing. He is easy to talk 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: yourself into this guy. 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. And that Pals trainer gave him 111 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: some workouts where it's not just ol come in and lift, 112 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: man come in and run, and it's not just being 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: on a football field. He called them sort of these 114 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: these different workouts, like it's just making working out more interesting. 115 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: And we all know how it is. I mean, it's 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 2: just a little more fun. And I don't know how 117 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: how it is to work out for Zion. I know 118 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: there's guys like Jeff tu great podcast, he'll go who 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: he went out and said, come on, man, you're trying 120 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: now and he he said, like, I'm just not a 121 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: fan of the guy anymore. See, I do think I 122 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: do think Zion just developed a different way of working 123 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: out again last season. I think that's that's important. That 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: that was literally in November October or November December, January February. 125 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: So this isn't just like the standard summer thing. This 126 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: isn't hashtag NBA off season. I do think this is 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: a thing that's developed over some time. And again, he 128 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: is twenty five, it's not like he's super old, and 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: I just this is just me being naive, But I 130 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: just don't think he'll get injured again. As you said, 131 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: those numbers there of how many games he's played, I'm 132 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: buying it. And I mean he used the Joe Dumars quote. 133 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: Talent is natural, greatness is every day. Now, Okay, it's 134 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: just a quote. But is at some point Zion Williamson 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: going to be a different guy to lead this team? 136 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he is saying. Joe Dumars 137 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: is asking of him, and he's gonna do it, and 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: we shall see. It is an interesting roster. You're totally 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: right about that. He did say stuff like this is 140 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: going to be a big year for Trey Murphy. So 141 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: there are like, there are guys that are just getting 142 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: into their prime, and so it feels like if those 143 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: guys are all decent. Even when it was two years 144 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: ago when Zion played seventy games, the team was freaking good. 145 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Why can't they get back there again? Wasn't that long 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: ago when Zion played seventy games? I mean, yeah, you 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: just had that one crappy year last year when he 148 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: learned workouts are fun. So here we are one more time. 149 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess he's been rehabbing injuries so often that 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: he knows all the different ways you can do it. 151 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: A little distressing though they didn't mention playing basketball at all. 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: I think that map might be something he would want 153 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: to be doing, mixing in with his training regimen, but 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: maybe that one is just a given. The other question 155 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: I had was what do you think of the goatee 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: the guy was rocking? 157 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that I feel like received the most ridicule 158 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: of anything, right, Like. 159 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: You, well, you look like an evil twin. 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess not. We'll get into how old 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: an NBA player has to be to be called unk. Okay, yeah, 162 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: we'll get into that layer that is. That's what an 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: uncle would have on. 164 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: His face, right, Yeah, that's that's a young guy to 165 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: have a go tee like that. When's the last time 166 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: you had a goate just a straight up goatee, not 167 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: a beard? 168 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: Since when? Actually? When I was Zion Williamson's age, like 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: twenty five. 170 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you want to do it. I kind 171 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: of feel like they're, uh, they're having a bit of 172 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: a media day moment. You know, Devin Booker's rocking a 173 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: go tea right now. Franz Wagner has a goatee, look 174 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: as well, you're you gonna pull it back? No, No, 175 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean I look old enough with all the gray 176 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: hairs on my face. I need to keep the side 177 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: parts of my beard because that's like the only part 178 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: that's actually dark. Still, if I went for a go tea, 179 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: I would just look like I don't know, one of 180 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: the three Musketeers or something like that. 181 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, I hear you. Yeah, yeah, the 182 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: too many grace I'm with you. 183 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to jump into the go tee pool yet, 184 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: but I'm glad to see some guys are bringing it back. 185 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Moving on, Jason Tatum went on First Take this week 186 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: when he was asked by Steven A about all the 187 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: different changes for the Celtics this season. He responded, first 188 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: of all, I haven't said I'm not playing this season. 189 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Tatum also said he's not rushing back, but also that 190 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't rehab six days a week for nothing. So 191 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: task are you up or down on Jason Tatum coming 192 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: back to the Celtics this season. 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: I gotta say it, I'm down. I want him to 194 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: take his time. I don't know how long he's going 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: to take, but just a value from here. It's an achilles. 196 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: It's super duper serious when it comes to NBA injuries. 197 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: It was in May, and there's a big range for 198 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: when guys come back. Are you going to be like 199 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: a Kobe comeback after eight months, which would put you 200 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 2: in January, or you're gonna be more like a Durant, 201 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: which was eighteen months, And I think the smartest thing 202 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: to do. Again, not a doctor don't know how he's recovering. 203 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: He says he's recovering very well. Brad Steven said in 204 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: July he's way ahead of schedule. I would say, you know, 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: in comparison, you'd want to sit out as much of 206 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: the season as he can. Ten months will put you 207 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: at March, and you're not gonna come back and be 208 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: incredible March, April and into the playoffs. These are all numbers, 209 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: But I would say, like looking at those guys that 210 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: I mentioned, Kobe and Kevin Durant, I think we saw 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: what happened with Kevin Durant, like leading into that injury. 212 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: He came back from his injury, it was early before 213 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: he tore his achilles, then he tears the achilles. With Kobe, 214 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: he wasn't the same after he came back, even after 215 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: those eight months, because he's he was tough as hell 216 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: and he was able to recover, but he just wasn't 217 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: the same afterwards. So to me, it feels like with 218 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: this roster dropping, Drew dropping, Kristaps Porzingis, doesn't seem like 219 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: they are going to be even with Jason Tatum back, 220 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: a favorite in the Eastern Conference, it doesn't all add 221 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: up for me. I think he should. I think you 222 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: should set up the entire year. Really yeah. 223 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I think the big question is like how good are 224 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: the Celtics going to be because they won't have three 225 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: of their starters from the beginning of last season. Horford 226 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: is likely moving on, still hasn't signed a deal, but 227 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: by all accounts, he's going to end up on the 228 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. So to me, then the question becomes, 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: like what does the Celtics season need to look like 230 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: for Jason Tatum to want to return, Like does it 231 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: make sense for him to come back in March when 232 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: they're like a five hundred team trying to scrape into 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: the top six or at least secure a play in spot. 234 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he also probably doesn't want to 235 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: be out for an entire year. Maybe it's similar to 236 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: when Paul George was coming back from a broken leg 237 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: with the Pacers. I think it was twenty fourteen to fifteen. 238 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: He only played like the last six games of the 239 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: season for Indiana. They didn't make the playoffs, but he 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: came back just to be like, Okay, I've got some 241 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: NBA basketball underneath my belt. Now I'll be ready for 242 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: the next season. I wonder if that happens. The Kobe 243 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: piece is interesting, though, tests Jason Tatum is like a 244 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant acolyte. So if he was able to come 245 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: back in eight months, you know that that's got to 246 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: be something on Tatum's calendar saying, Hey, if Kobe could 247 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: do it, maybe I could do it. I've heard Simmons 248 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: talking on his podcast quite a bit about how quickly 249 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Tatum had his surgery, and I think we heard the 250 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: doctor say he's got the strongest calf in the history 251 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: of Achilles injuries. Simmons mentioned that perhaps Tatum would be 252 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: looking to return around his birthday, which is March third. 253 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: The Celtics do have a home game against the Charlotte 254 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Hornet on March fourth. It's a pretty nice landing spot 255 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: if you're coming back from an injury. So when it happened, 256 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: I thought, for sure, this guy's going to be out 257 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: for the entirety of the twenty five to twenty sixth season. 258 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: But it feels like there's a chance he comes back 259 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: at some point this year. I don't necessarily think it's 260 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: the smartest move long term, but these guys, if they 261 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: feel like they're healthy enough, they're going to want to play. 262 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I hope he does take his research 263 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: of Kobe into serious consideration, because Kobe came back at 264 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: eight months and he toughed it out, and then he 265 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: played six games and he got injured again. I think 266 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: he broke a fibula, and he was up for the 267 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: rest of the season with the Lakers and he just 268 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: wasn't quite the same. So here we are. I think 269 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: Tatum's he's young enough. The Celtics aren't going to be 270 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: good enough. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe medicine is advanced 271 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: enough that he comes back super duper early. But this 272 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: is literally, you know, it's an achilles things. It's gonna 273 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: be Jalen Brown's team to carry here, and we'll see 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: what him and Pritchard and Derek White can do because 275 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: those are the guys that it's going to be on 276 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: for month after month after month in an Eastern Conference 277 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: where they have the ability to win plenty of games 278 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: because those those are really good players. But it is 279 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: going to be a different team. 280 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely going to be a different team. And you know, 281 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what's happening at the trade deadline. Like Derek 282 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: White is a guy who's been mentioned as a possible 283 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: trade candidate for the Houston Rockets. Jalen Brown, you know, 284 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: he's got a gigantic contract. I think he's a Celtic's mainstay, 285 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: but who knows. We'll see how the first half of 286 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: the season goes. They will make their determination on what 287 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: they feel like their ceiling is for this season around 288 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, and surely that will influence the Tatum 289 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: return as well. But I'm sure whenever he comes back, 290 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: he's going to want to be as healthy as possible 291 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: because the Kobe factor eight months is quick to come back. 292 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: But then getting hurt again, then it's like you're missing 293 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: two bummer stuff. Kenny Atkinson, you got the Evan Mobley 294 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: hype train rolling this week, saying he's noticed how much 295 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: stronger Evan Mobley has gotten and that you can sense 296 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna make another jump. Atkinson continued to say, I 297 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: think he's ready to take the next step. So tass 298 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: the up or down on Evan Mobley taking the next 299 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: step and what is that step? 300 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: I am up on that, because if the Calves want 301 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: to make the NBA Finals, it's gonna take two things. 302 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: It's gonna take Evan Mobley evolving and it's gonna take 303 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson using him more. Because Atkinson didn't use him 304 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: enough in fourth quarter, close game situations. Which is fine. 305 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: In the regular season we saw with the Cavs they 306 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: destroyed everybody, but they were not ready in the playoffs 307 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: in close game situations and teams could plan for them. 308 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: It is wild looking back in clutch situations in the 309 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: regular season, the usage percentages for the Cavs main players 310 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: were Donovan Mitchell thirty seven point seven percent he got 311 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: used a lot, Darius Scarland twenty eight percent, extremely high, 312 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: and then Evan Mobley eleven point nine percent, uh, super low. 313 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: He just wasn't utilized. This team could be easily planned 314 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: for in the playoffs. I will say positive here Kenny 315 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: Atkinson last year on media Day said we're gonna get 316 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: him more involved, and he did get Mobley more involved. 317 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Last year he said media Day said we're gonna have 318 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: him bring the ball up off the board. In transition, 319 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a ball handler in five out situations. 320 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna have running pick and rolls. He's a modern 321 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: day player, and they used him way more. His usees 322 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: percentage was twenty two point six percent during the regular season. 323 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Very solid stuff. That's why he received Most Improved Player 324 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: vot votes last year. Now it was a big jump 325 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: from twenty three twenty four to twenty four to twenty five. 326 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,239 Speaker 2: He was used more, but they became more too predictable, 327 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: and Kenny Atkinson can see if we're gonna win in 328 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs, if we're going to take that next step, 329 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: it's got to be using MOBILEI more. You mentioned the 330 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: things about his offseason workouts looking stronger. He's running the 331 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: team camp type things. Apparently he was the guy who 332 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: who's organizing them. So it's positive. It's positive that Kenny 333 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: has learned to do things differently with the team and 334 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: Evan Mobley is ready to grow. 335 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I think you hit on it perfectly. The self creation 336 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: is kind of the next step for Evan Mobley. The 337 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: reason he doesn't get the touches in the clutch is 338 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: because we know Donovan Mitchell Klingo get his own shot, 339 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: create a shot for his teammates Darius Garland. Maybe he 340 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: creates for teammates more so than he goes looking for 341 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: his own shot. But they're both good with the ball 342 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: in their hands. Give them the basketball and let's see 343 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: what they can do. Mobley hasn't necessarily been that kind 344 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: of a player. He was the biggest post up player 345 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: on the Cavs. He did add some bully ball to 346 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: his game, but not super efficient, so I think he 347 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: kind of needs like a go to thing on the 348 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: offensive end. It was awesome that he added the three 349 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: point shot to his game for this last season. I 350 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: think the next thing will be putting the ball in 351 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: his hands and letting him be an efficient isolation scorer, 352 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: efficient second side scorer as well. And I think he's 353 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: definitely got that in his game. He's still super young, 354 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: and it's just the next evolution for him is figuring 355 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: out a way to score with the ball in his hands. 356 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: And look, everybody can get better at rebounding as well. 357 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see what Evan Mobley looks like 358 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: because I think the higher and higher he raises or 359 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: rises in the pecking order for the Calves, the better 360 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: and better it is for them in the short term 361 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: and in the long term. But man, if this guy's 362 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: able to take another step, that's pretty scary. The guy 363 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: was Defensive Player of the Year, second Team All NBA 364 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: All Star, and first Team All Defense last year. So 365 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: there's not a lot more levels to go for Evan Mobley. 366 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: But if he's able to go to another level, awesome stuff. 367 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta unleash. He just has to have the 368 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: ball in his hands a little bit more. I don't 369 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: think that really happens or is dependent on Jared Allen moving. 370 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case at all. Alan can 371 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: be on the bench and having mobilely the five, especially 372 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: in clutch time situations. I think it's literally just getting 373 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: him the ball and also making sure he uses it 374 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: to score. I mean, he's just super duper talented. And 375 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: you know I mentioned those usage percentages. Like last year 376 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: he was one hundred and fifth in the league. The 377 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: year before he was one hundred and sixty fifth in 378 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: the league in terms of usage percentage for guys that 379 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: played fifteen minutes or more. So there was a big jump. 380 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: But one hundred and fifth player in the league is 381 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: not enough for this guy. This guy's just pretty low. 382 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: He's too talented. So yes, he needs to be given 383 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: the keys, because the team just becomes too predictable when 384 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: you know Donovan's doing it or Garland's doing it. And 385 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: obviously the loss of the Pacers in the second round 386 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: definitely was factored by injuries. There's no doubt. You know, 387 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Mobiley sat out a game and Garland said out a 388 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: couple of games. That was a part of it. But 389 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: also they just became too predictable and that hurt combined 390 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: with those injuries. 391 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Yep, another score would definitely make the Cavs even scarier. 392 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: This one's still unofficial, so just kind of quickly. Mitchell 393 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: Robinson was spotted wearing a starter's jersey at Nick's practice. 394 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: Josh Hart was wearing the white jersey that's the second teamers. 395 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: He also said, if they asked me to come off 396 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: the bench, I'm requesting a trade. He was joking. But 397 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: you think the Knicks should start Mitchell Robinson over Josh Hart. 398 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: No, I think the Knicks should start gershin Yabusele over 399 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson and Josh Hart. At times. I think that 400 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: guy is going to be the guy who plays a lot. 401 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: Seventy games last year, played for the Sixers. Well, Mitchell 402 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: Robinson was hurt. These guys are talking about replacing each 403 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: other in the starting lineup. Come on, you're not You're 404 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: not up to date with your gershon Yebucele news. I 405 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: do want to add just one thing that Kenny Atkinson 406 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: said about his players. He said DeAndre Hunter is arguably 407 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: the best calve from this past offseason because he thinks 408 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson was getting getting into himself, getting into his 409 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: own feelings and basically said, we didn't use DeAndre Hunter enough, 410 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: or I didn't communicate with him enough. We didn't have 411 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: sit downs enough after we traded for him at the 412 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: trade deadline. So there's that to evolve for the Cleveland 413 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: Cavaliers too. That guy's going to start, He's going to 414 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: play a time, I think over Andre Hunters. Yeah, over 415 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: Max Strus is hurt right now, right, yeah, yeah, but 416 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: he made him seem like DeAndre Hunter. Obviously they got 417 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: him for the defense. He's bigger than Max Shrew's but 418 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: they just didn't they didn't unlock enough of his offensive game, 419 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: so that that would be something to watch there with 420 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: that team, I mean, the team that went sixty four 421 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: and eighteen last year, that'll be a'll be a fun 422 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: team to watch. 423 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, DeAndre Hunter. Man, I've been going through these rosters 424 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out who I think is going 425 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: to be the best teams in the league, looking at 426 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: their players all this kind of stuff, and DeAndre Hunter 427 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: is a guy that I'm like, oh, yeah, he's on 428 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: the Caps, totally forgettable. They made the big move for 429 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: him at the trade deadline, and he had some good moments. 430 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: For sure, was more of a bench guy for him 431 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: last year. But uh, the more you ask from DeAndre Hunter, 432 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: the more chances you are getting being disappointed. But I 433 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: think he's a good player and there's definitely an opportunity 434 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: for him now with Strus out. I do think the 435 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: three point shooting with the Cavs last year was a 436 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: huge part of their success, So maybe Struce is able 437 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: to win that spot back whenever he's healthy. But ye, 438 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how Kenny gets the most 439 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: out of DeAndre Hunter going forward. I can't believe you're 440 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: saying Yabu is going to be starting for the Knicks though. 441 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 442 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: I think it was a weird team in that they 443 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: weren't a good defensive team the entire season, really, and 444 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: moving Cat to the four would help. Oh with a 445 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: guy who's gritty. Now, Mitchell Robinson can be that guy. 446 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: He came along in the second half the season, didn't 447 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: play the first half, so yeah, it could be Mitch. 448 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: But I don't know. He's got these new legs happening 449 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: because he gets injured every year. 450 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: That's a worry for sure. The more he's playing, the 451 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: better chance of injury. Though. The Knick's worth their best 452 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: when it was him as the five and Towns as 453 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: the four. Then they become like a huge lineup, and 454 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: they still have enough shooting because Towns is such a 455 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: good outside shooter. Let's stick in New York have some 456 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: fun here. Michael Porter Junior was asked about New York 457 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: City traffic by the Yes Network. He said he shipped 458 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: a car out to Brooklyn, but the traffic has been 459 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: so bad that instead he's spending two hundred to two 460 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars a day on ubers so that 461 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do the driving himself test. Are 462 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: you up or down on spending two hundred and fifty 463 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: dollars a day on an uber? 464 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: Big down? I understand parking in New York sounds horrendous, 465 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: but first of all, they're practicing in Brooklyn. It ain't 466 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: the same as Manhattan, very very different. Second, you got 467 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 2: a car, they're going to give you a parking spot. 468 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: Why do you need to take it an uber? I 469 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: don't I really truly understand it. I know parking ain't fun, 470 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: but when it comes to being an NBA player, they're 471 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: going to give you a spot. Dude, it ain't that bad. 472 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Like you're going to go from getting dropped off at 473 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: the front door and an uber to yeah, you got 474 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: to go in your parking deck and walk in. I 475 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: don't get it. It's Brooklyn. It's it's not that bad. 476 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: It's it's totally fine. It's in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. It's 477 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: time to get live. 478 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: It's time to represent. 479 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is time to get live. It's time to represent. 480 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: Michael Porter, drive your car. I think that's I. 481 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: Guess that's the question. It's like, you're gonna be sitting 482 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: in traffic regardless, right. I think Frank I Soola was 483 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: backing him up on this point. He's like, Yeah, it's 484 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: bad having a car in Brooklyn. He didn't like it. 485 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, you say New York, I don't. It 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: doesn't really. 487 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't doubt him. But if you're riding, you 488 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: can do stuff. If you're riding, if you're driving, you 489 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: got to be locked in. How's Michael Porter Junior gonna 490 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: get his tweets off, gonna watch his Instagram videos? If 491 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: he's in the front seat. It's so much more chill 492 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: riding in the backseat. You do the math as well. 493 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Two two hundred and fifty dollars a day on an 494 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: uber if he does it every single day for a year, 495 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: that's ninety one thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars. Michael 496 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: Porter Junior is making thirty eight million this year. That's 497 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: zero point two percent of his salary, which means if 498 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: you were the equivalent of somebody making one hundred thousand dollars, 499 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: that's two hundred and forty dollars a year on ubers. 500 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: According to literally one Reddit post that I read, private 501 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: drivers in New York City make between eighty and one 502 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand dollars. So maybe Michael Porter Juniors 503 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: being smart here by taking more and more ubers. 504 00:25:54,560 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was with that at first, but it ain't Manhattan. 505 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: It ain't the same. I think what happened is he 506 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: got his car, he drove into Manhattan. Parking in Manhattan 507 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: is horrendous. It is absolutely the worst thing. You're going 508 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: underground into these tight little spots. It's tough. You're bumping 509 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: some car. I'm sure Michael Porter Jr. Would be Maybe 510 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: he's already had an accident since he got to Brooklyn. 511 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: But I also I was confused. I thought, does he 512 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: even have his car yet? Because he said he got 513 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: his car towed. But to me, I was like, oh, 514 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, this is a guy who just doesn't plan 515 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: all that much. His car is probably just not there. 516 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: He didn't do it early enough. He doesn't even have 517 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: his car, so that's why he's taken ubers. But dude, 518 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that tough. This is not Manhattan. 519 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: This is friggin Brooklyn. You get to drive in and 520 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: it's fun. I think he had one bad experience when 521 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: he went into Manhattan one day and now it's forever 522 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 2: an Uber guy. 523 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: Forever an Uber guy. I just got to agree with 524 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Gustavo here in the stream team that says MPG being 525 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: a franchise best player is pure comedy. It honestly feels 526 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: to me like early twenty ten's Washington Wizards when they're 527 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: like star players were Nick Young and JaVale McGee, and 528 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: it just felt like everything they did was extra funny 529 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: because you know, your workout the math for this Michael 530 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Porter Junior thing, and maybe it makes sense for him. 531 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: He's not really worried about the money of it. We 532 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: see two hundred and fifty dollars per day on Uber 533 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like only Michael Porter Junior would 534 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: do that. Then they dropped the little video of him 535 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: like putting on his nets jersey, getting his photo taken 536 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: for the first time. The guy's just like cheese into 537 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: the Max Wall dribbling. It looks hilarious. We will see 538 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: how the rest of the season goes for the Brooklyn 539 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Nets and YMPJ. 540 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to see him as a number 541 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: one guy. We talked about it on our last show, 542 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: Who is the Best Player On the Brooklyn Nets. Now, 543 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: he talked a lot in that press conference. Man, I 544 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: watched every freaking press conference. 545 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: What else is there to do? You know? 546 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we got to see if those Toronto Blue 547 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: Jays can win that division this weekend. Oh it's like 548 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: they're back dut Dalton var Show getting on top of 549 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: that high heat yesterday. Uh, they got to win that division. 550 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: Lots of w NBA games. Will the Lynks bounce back tonight? 551 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: TVD The Michael Port Junior thing, he was basically basically 552 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: he kind of implied that his injury and how poorly 553 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: he played because of that injury got him traded in 554 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: part because like he just kind of implied, like, Okay, 555 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't playing to my capabilities. They saw that, They're like, okay, 556 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: we gotta get rid of this guy. So I was like, 557 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: it's probably the whole season. Man, it's probably your ability 558 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: to defend or lack of ability to defend and put 559 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: it on the floor like Cam Johnson can. But anyway, 560 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: him as the best player in Brooklyn is full of questions. 561 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: I think he mostly got traded because of his gigantic contract. 562 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: That's the main reason that happened. But that's why he's 563 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: able to afford these ubers. I actually kind of think 564 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior has become underrated as a player. I 565 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: don't think he should be a number one guy, but 566 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: like the dude six three point shooter, and you don't 567 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: see that all that often, but he is the number 568 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: one guy, and he's apparently the number one Uber customer 569 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: in the New York City area. New Old unis alert. 570 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: The Sixers unveiled their classic edition throwbacks in honor of 571 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: the twenty five year anniversary of the two thousand and 572 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: one Finals team led by Alan Iverson. These are the 573 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: black Sixers jerseys with the swooshing basketball across the front. 574 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: They look great. They got the court to match tasks. 575 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: You up or down on these Sixers throwbacks? Oh? 576 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: Big time down? I can't do it. I can't do it, 577 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: Trey this. 578 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: You're down. 579 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: I am totally totally down on these. Give me nightmares. Yeah, 580 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: this is personal. Here they were wearing. 581 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 582 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, when it looked like Vince Carter 583 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: was just ascending, it seemed like everything was great. He 584 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: met Alvin Alan Iverson in round two. They're both dropping 585 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: fifties and yeah, Alan Iverson eliminated the Toronto Raptors, which 586 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: was fine, and that was understandable. Yeah, Vince went and 587 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: graduated before Game seven. All that was cool, that was 588 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: totally acceptable. At that point, me and my homie Dave 589 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: Setton and all our friends, we decided, Wow, I mean, 590 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: this is just the beginning. There was the offer going 591 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: on for season seats for the following season. That's when 592 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: we jumped in. But literally, that was the only playoff 593 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: series that Vince Carter won with the Toronto Raptors going 594 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: into that second round against Allen Iverson, and I just 595 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: haven't recovered. I mean I saw these a few weeks 596 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: ago and I still haven't recovered. I just don't like 597 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: seeing them. I mean, was this was Peke Iverson? Oh yeah, 598 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: this was the MVP season and so they're cool. But 599 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 2: to me, they just they just bring me back too 600 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: many flashbacks. Don't like them. 601 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: That's something I'd never really considered with throwback jerseys, is ya. 602 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: The classic moments for one team have to be like 603 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: the worst moments for another fan base. So understandable the 604 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: Raptors fans will be like, oh no, I hate to 605 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: see these. For everybody else though they look awesome, I 606 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: do wish they had the wider sleeves that they had 607 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: back in the two thousands when the NBA was trying 608 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: for like a more street ball look. These were also 609 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: very shiny. I remember the Sixers having like the shiniest 610 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: jerseys ever during the Iverson era. I do hope that 611 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: their players. It doesn't look like it from all the 612 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: different photos they're released, but I think of that team 613 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: wearing some of the baggiest jersey in NBA history. Like 614 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Iverson probably wore a medium jersey and in these it 615 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: looked like he was wearing a triple X. They were 616 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: just gigantic. The shorts were so long. These are a 617 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: lot more fitted for the current Sixers team, but they 618 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: look sweet. 619 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: It looks like it's snug on Joel Embiid in the 620 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: photo show and you hear you're you're right, and yeah, 621 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: you can see Paul George making his little snarl while 622 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: pulling out his jersey a little bit. Yeah, you're right, 623 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: they're right. They aren't as baggy. I mean, everybody's doing 624 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: it though, you got to bring it back. 625 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, everybody is doing it right now. There's quite 626 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: a few, uh classic conditions that we will be seeing. 627 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk about another one in a second, but these 628 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: did get Sixers fans very excited. I think even the 629 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: photos of Joel Embiid kind of got Sixers fans excited 630 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: because you know, if it weren't weren't for Zion and Luca, 631 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: we'd be saying, hey, look at skinny Joel Embiid. I 632 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: know people are excited. He has been wearing a knee 633 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: brace when he practiced. But the day after these Sixers 634 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: jerseys were finally unveiled, Sham's reported that second year guard 635 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Jared McCain had a torn ligament in his right thumb. 636 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna miss the start of the season. These UCLAs 637 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: or you see l surgeries, the timeframe is usually like 638 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: four to six weeks for a return. So when you 639 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: think about Jared McCain going down with an injury before 640 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: the season even starts. 641 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, did you see the photos of Jared McCain in 642 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: the throwbacks? 643 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, hitting the weights. 644 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: He was literally sitting on a weight bench with a 645 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: huge barbell behind him that had two and a half 646 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: pounders on there. Maybe they're five pounders. They're a little 647 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 2: tiny ones. So people were making fun of me. Tiny, Yeah, 648 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: and then he jumped on I guess it was his 649 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: TikTok lifting tiny weights as a joke, making fun of 650 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: himself lifting eight pounders. You know, those colorful plastic exterior 651 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: eight pounders, So he was making fun of that. Then the 652 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: next day like he jumped on it. 653 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Man. 654 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 2: I think those were videos were up the same day. 655 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: Then the next day he tears that UCL so horrible, 656 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: horrible for them. For Yeah, you mentioned Joelle Embiid. We'll 657 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: see how he comes back. Paul George had off season surgery. 658 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: He's supposed to be back. This seems to be the 659 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 2: start of something negative. But you know, you can sort 660 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: of be positive for Embiid, Like you said, they've got 661 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: young guys, but then one goes and gets hurt, so 662 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 2: obviously it's it's terrible to start with here. 663 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Embiid and Paul George's both supposed to 664 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: speak at media day for the Sixers today. They haven't 665 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: really made any sort of appearances since having surgery. They're 666 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: both coming off in these surgeries, which you don't like 667 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: that if you're a Sixers fan, and if you're a 668 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: Sixers fan, you're like, there's no way we have another 669 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: great player getting injured before the start of season. Once again. 670 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: I wonder how many straight years that's happened where there's 671 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: been some sort of disruption during media day during training camp. 672 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: You know, it was Harden a few years back with 673 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: his contract disputes, the EMBID stuff last year. I'm sure 674 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: we can go and look time after time and see 675 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: these problems with the Sixers. I guess on the good side, 676 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: they have guard depth. They got Tyrese Maxi, good player 677 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: drafted VJ. Edgecomb looks sweet wearing number seventy seven on 678 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: these jerseys. They haven't yet signed Quentin Grimes, but it 679 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: feels like he's still going to be on the team, 680 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: So I don't think this necessarily changes the prospects for 681 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: the Sixers to be losing Jared McCain for the first 682 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: fifteen games of the season or something like that. The 683 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: problem will be as if Embiid isn't ready for the 684 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: start of the season, same with Paul George, and if 685 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: these things continue to pile up like they did for 686 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia last season. Did you see the news that Kyle 687 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: Lowry is going to be joining Amazon as an analyst 688 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: for the NBA season this season? 689 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: Is that only the second NBA player in history who've 690 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: been part of an NBA partner in another NBA media 691 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: source while they play, like Draymond Green with Turner last year, 692 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 2: it feels like there hasn't been anybody else active and 693 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: having a job. 694 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like Kyle Lowry. We saw Kyle Lowry 695 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: modeling the Sixers jerseys and then we saw Kyle Lowery 696 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: modeling a suit for Amazon. Pretty unusual. Definitely, Draymond is 697 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: the first guy I thought of. I thought maybe the 698 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: OG Charles Barkley started working with Turner inside the NBA 699 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: while he was still playing. I think he made some appearances, 700 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: but his first full time season was definitely the very 701 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: first season after he retired. But you know, we had 702 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: Lowry on the starters on NBA TV in the middle 703 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: of the season or towards the end of the season 704 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: way back in the day. So guys do do media 705 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: appearances quite regularly, but it was weird to see it 706 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: come across as this guy's like a full time member 707 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: of our crew. Going forward. Makes you realize how elderly 708 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry is in the grand scheme. 709 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: Of things, ReSpectacle he's already playing in his post career life. Yeah, 710 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 2: he'll be. He'll be sitting on that chair, no doubt. 711 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: The first question I'm going to have for him is 712 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: when he did an interview in the NBA Finals, he 713 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: walked into the arena and walked up the stairs without showering. 714 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: He had a towel around his his butt. He was 715 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: wearing like okay, he was wearing it waist down. It 716 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: was one of those that had like an elastic waistband 717 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: on it, so it wasn't gonna fall off. But I 718 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: just wonder, like, as he walked into the arena, he 719 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 2: walked up the stairs after sweating, what's he wearing underneath there? 720 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: Like he is? I'm just I'm just curious. So like 721 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 2: he's got a tanked up on top, he didn't shower. Yeah, 722 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: that's all. That's all I gotta say. I was just curious. 723 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're hoping spandex but quite likely the answer is 724 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: nothing exactly exactly. 725 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: I literally I was standing behind him and it's one 726 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: of those towels that, like, you know, you could see 727 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 2: it separate a little bit obviously, and so like you said, 728 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: who knows how far it separates what I was going 729 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 2: to see there? That's my first question for this guy 730 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: who will be asking questions. 731 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: I think he'll be pretty good on the broadcast because 732 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: Lowry A has had a super long career and he's 733 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: also been kind of like a different player in a 734 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: lot of spots, right like when he was a young 735 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: guy with the Grizzlies and the Rockets, he was stuck 736 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: behind other point guards, kind of had a reputation as 737 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: a guy who beats with coaches. He comes to the Raptors, 738 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: turns the team around, wins a championship, becomes an All 739 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: Star All NBA player, builds his whole of Fame case, 740 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: and now with the Sixers at the end of his career, 741 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: he's the vet who's helping out. So he's got a 742 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: lot of experience and just different perspectives. So I think 743 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: that'll be pretty interesting. I like the team the Amazon 744 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: has put around him and look pretty good. Point here 745 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: by rap Stallion. CJ McCollum has been with ESPN for years. 746 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: That's a forget a guy I forget who is doing 747 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: quite a bit of media and he's he was like 748 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: lining up a media career when he was still in college. 749 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: It felt like CJ. McCollums, So it does happen. 750 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is forgettable? How that? Heck? Did I 751 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: forget that? I mean, is what was he doing for ESPN? 752 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: Is he on the games? Or is he in studio? 753 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: Why can't I I think he's a studio guy, an 754 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: occasional studio guy. 755 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, So I got another quick question 756 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: for Kyle Lowry because I heard this on a podcast. 757 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: This is the off season taking all this sort of 758 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: stuff in. I heard Terrence Ross on his podcast talking 759 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 2: about a season when he was with the Toronto Raptors 760 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: and Andrea Barniani did an interview in Italian, and then 761 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: after he left the locker room, you know, nobody knew 762 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: what he was saying during the press conference obviously, or 763 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: the interview obviously he left the locker room. Then all 764 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: these publications start releasing what he said, and Barnianni apparently 765 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: said like, I'm not happy here. We got to get 766 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: some better players. Lowry was there that year when apparently 767 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: the next day Aaron Gray, of all people you know, 768 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: deep on the roster, went up to Andrea Barniani and said, hey, man, 769 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: would you say to that Italian team what the he 770 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: or the Italian reporter, what's going on here, and Barnie 771 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 2: it's like, I tell you, it's taking out of contact. 772 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. And Terrence Ross was like 773 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 2: looking left, looking right. He's a rookie, He's left looking right. 774 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 2: What is going on here? So I want to I 775 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: want some more deats on that story that Aaron Gray 776 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 2: versus Andrea Barniani in the locker room. Would love to 777 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: hear about them. 778 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: That what you got versus Andrea Barnianni. I think you. 779 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: I hope we get a full uh one on one 780 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: interview task Melis and Kyle Lowry because the first two 781 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: questions are going to ask them are hilarious. Number one, 782 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: what was underneath your towel? Number two, what was happening 783 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: between Andrea Barnianni and Aaron Gray. Nobody else is going 784 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: to ask him those questions. 785 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: What you're wearing under that towel? What you got under 786 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 2: that towel? Let us know, Kyle, Yeah. 787 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: Let's hear what's underneath Kyle Lowry's towel. Actually, don't let 788 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: us know that. 789 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: No, no need to know that. 790 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: Back to the uniform department, the Timberwolves are also bringing 791 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: back some early two thousands looked going with the black 792 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: trees jersey from the KG era. They got a match 793 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: in court as well. Task you up and down on 794 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves throwbacks. 795 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking at him here in front of me. How 796 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: could I not be excited about this? Look at that thing? 797 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: What that thing? Just guess just far less painful moments 798 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: for me with these jerseys. These are just just nice classics, 799 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: simple as that. The KG ones, as you said, they 800 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: go way back to their way back to their nineties. 801 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, loving them. 802 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was Young or Om Young Masook 803 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: who said who wrote that the Timberwolves last war these 804 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. They bring him back from time to time, 805 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: but this is always the one that people want to 806 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: see from Minnesota. I think mL hit it on the head. 807 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: This is the best Wolves jersey by far. Vice res agrees. 808 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: I do like the blue and green original look that 809 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota had when they had like Tom Googliata as their 810 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: best player, but these are pretty sweet as well. I 811 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: was laughing when I was reading Ohm's piece over at ESPN. 812 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: There's a line in it that says Minnesota first introduced 813 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: the popular uniform with tree trim and a Timberwolve's font 814 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: that looks similar to the Count Chocula one back in 815 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six ninety seven. I've never really thought of 816 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: these as chalk yellow uniforms, but it's kind of true. 817 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: No, I've never thought of that at all. I totally 818 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: thought that they'd be just kge Jersey's period. I guess. 819 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 2: I guess they weren't there for his rookie year in 820 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 2: ninety five ninety six, which, yeah. 821 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: He wore those blues back in the day as well. 822 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are those are when you say blue man, 823 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 2: that was a blue. It was one of those Brady 824 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: Those are bright blues. Listen, here's another weird idea we had. 825 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: We had Sam Mitchell where these when he was a player. 826 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 2: He I assume still lives in the Georgia area close 827 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: to us. There was that weird thing that happened when 828 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 2: he was on NBA TV. Do you remember he had 829 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: that bit of a yeah, a little brew haha on 830 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 2: camera while they're you know, doing standard stuff, They're going 831 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 2: to a game, they get into this little fight and 832 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 2: then Chris Miles goes to sam Mitchell's house and they 833 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: film him in front of sam Mitchell's house. And saying, 834 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: look where buddies and sam Mitchell opens the door and 835 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 2: they're like they're shaking hands and stuff. I just want 836 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: to go to his house. Never want to see his house. 837 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: That'd be cool. Second to ask him about these jerseys. 838 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 2: Put it on. Let's have an interview with sam Mitchell 839 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 2: in his jersey. Because sam Mitchell is just great on 840 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: camera period. I wonder what's going to happen with him 841 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 2: in NBA TV. Is NBA TV looks to be moving 842 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: off Yeah, yeah, winding down definitely in Atlanta, although they 843 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: should be having new offices and a new studio somewhere 844 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: else to bed very very soon though. So give sam 845 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: Mitchell some some cam time he deserves. 846 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: Get him on, Get Sam on cam. He's got a 847 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: cutting sense of humor. 848 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: Tests he does, yeah, which. 849 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: Is why I think the fig with Chris Miles played 850 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: out way it did. But I agree with Icy here 851 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: who says the Wolves should retire twenty one in this season. 852 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett's number hasn't yet been retired by Minnesota, even 853 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: though he is clearly the greatest player in their franchise history. 854 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: There was a lot of beef between him and their 855 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: former owner Glenn Taylor. So I think now that Mark 856 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: Laurie and a Rod have completed their purchase of the team, 857 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: it would make sense to do that in a season 858 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: when they're bringing back the KG jerseys. 859 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Kevin Garnett can come on our show and 860 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: talk about how he tried to purchase the Minnesota Timberwollives and, 861 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 2: as you said, had that beef with Glenn Taylor because 862 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: he was literally trying to be the guy to lead 863 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 2: a group to own the Minnesota Timberwolves. So I don't 864 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 2: know if he's just bitter in general about not being 865 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 2: able to own the squad that he tried to own, 866 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: because he's just He's just a guy who wears his 867 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 2: heart on his sleeve, obviously, and he wanted it so 868 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: fricking bad. I don't know how painful it is for 869 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 2: him to be still a part of the team, but hopefully, Yeah, 870 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 2: the lori Ara era of this team is definitely different, 871 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: and they should, yes, put a jersey up there for KG, 872 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: no doubt. 873 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 1: Get him back in the fold. Everybody would be excited 874 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 1: to see that. I don't know if you saw this task. 875 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: Memphis also brought back some early two thousands era uniforms 876 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: to celebrate their twenty fifth anniversary of being in Memphis. 877 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 1: Definitely less hype around these ones. 878 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: They're less memorable. 879 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're wearing like they're black ones that like pau 880 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 1: Gasol War early in his career. Jason Williams, White Chocolate, 881 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: Jason Williams. That's a really good video. For their release 882 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: of this, they brought back Hub Brown, who was their 883 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: coach at the time. They filmed in front of the 884 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: Bass Pro Shops pyramid, which is pretty funny. And I 885 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: also noticed that Jaron Jackson Junior seems to be switching 886 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: his number from thirteen to eight. I don't know why. 887 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: Really, as the first the first thing that I googled 888 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 2: and saw was Jaron Jackson in his thirteen throwback jersey. 889 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 2: Of these is that you're talking about, so I guess 890 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: you guess they didn't have an eight printed. Yeah, that 891 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: sounds like a good video though. Yeah, you just made 892 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 2: me get a flashback to pow Gasol when, Yeah, that 893 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 2: guy was playing in a fricking pyramid. They used to 894 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 2: play in that arena that was literally a pyramid, which 895 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: is now a best bro shops. Have you ever been 896 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: there to the bathroom? 897 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: No, I really need to go there. Yeah, I would 898 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: love to go to the pyramid. It's just so funny 899 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: that we've got like one pyramid in the United States 900 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 1: and it's a fishing shop. But it must be good. 901 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: You know, they must have a lot of these bass 902 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: pro shops have a tank that has all kinds of 903 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: different freshwater fish. You know, your bass, your bluegill, your perch. 904 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: If you've got that much floor space to have an 905 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: entire pyramid, they better have some funky fish in there, 906 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: and I would like. 907 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 2: To see them. Just a follow up to fish and 908 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: did you see the monsters that Ben Simmons has caught? 909 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: I think this summer. 910 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's out there still. 911 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 2: Those are big fish. I mean those are giant. 912 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking like sixty seventy pound tunas. Oh, this 913 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: guy's My next career might be deep sea fishermen, because 914 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what team's gonna end up on. Somebody's 915 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a chance on Ben Simmons. 916 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there was a really good team rumor to 917 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: be wanting him now the next. 918 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: Didn't he like turn down to the Knicks or something 919 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: like that? 920 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that? 921 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know, all right, yeah, but we'll see. 922 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't think he is done getting chances. 923 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 2: I don't care. He's too young for that. 924 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: I like this from Rob and the stream team who 925 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: says these are all unis that I remember when I 926 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: was a teenager suddenly feeling very old with the Timberwolves 927 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: and the Sixers. One. That's great because we're talking about unks. 928 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: New Pelican center kavan Looney was asked at Media Day, 929 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: what age do you consider unk? And cavan Looney responded 930 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: in an NBA locker room, thirty to four to thirty 931 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: five is the unk age. So, tass are you up 932 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: or down? I'm thirty four to thirty five being the 933 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: start of when you can call somebody unk. 934 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 2: I think that is absolutely correct. Up on that when 935 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: it comes to NBA rosters, as kevon Looney said. 936 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: How old is? How old is kavan Looney? 937 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: Probably that probably? Now? 938 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: How old do you think he is? 939 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 2: How old do you think thirty four nine? 940 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: Younger? Yeah, he's twenty nine years old? Man. 941 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 2: That is incredible. 942 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: That's literally why they asked him. They're like, you're not old, 943 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: but twenty nine is that old? But uh, they call 944 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: you unk? So how old really is unk? That was 945 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 1: hilarious to me. He's one of the biggest gap between 946 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: how old you think he is because he's been around 947 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: and been a big part of the Warriors, or was 948 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: a big part of the Warriors for basically the entirety 949 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: of his career. It felt like he had a good 950 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: start to his run with the Warriors, then kind of 951 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: fell out of favor, but then came back as like 952 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: a franchise legend. And he's still not even thirty years old. Unbelievable. 953 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he looks old. He does looks old. He 954 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: doesn't look like a young twenty nine. Yeah, because he 955 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 2: came into the league at nineteen, right, he just yeah, 956 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: he was a one year guy, one year of college. 957 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, it feels like he's super old. He also plays, 958 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 2: you know, like an old school basketball. 959 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: Setting screens, hitting the glass. 960 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zion loves him, I will say he does. 961 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: Likeon loves him. He I mean, he's a great teammate 962 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: to have. I saw Jordan Poole was like, I can't 963 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: wait to play with him again. I haven't had a 964 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: good screen in two years. In your face, Marvin Bagley, 965 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: watch out Tristan Vucevich. But yeah, I thought that was 966 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: a pretty funny clip with Looney. 967 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: So he must be angry if anybody calls him an unk. 968 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: I would automatically think that guys would call him unk. 969 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh, definitely. And I think that's what he was saying, 970 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: was like, look where I come from. I was the 971 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: young guy on the team. I'm only twenty nine years old. 972 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: I played with andre Iguidale. He said he was forty 973 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: five when he played with them. I don't think that's true. 974 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: But you know, Steph Curry is an unk to Kevan Looney. 975 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler would be unk for Kevon Looney as well. 976 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: Have you ever been called unk? Yeah? 977 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 2: No, uh never unk uncle, always an uncle. 978 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: Uncle task Yeah sure, yeah, I've heard my kids call 979 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: you that. But you know they're not They're not doing 980 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: it as a This is a sage, older man who 981 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some wisdom from. 982 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 2: Unk feels it feels like that's a pretty accurate number, 983 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: maybe because I'm older than thirty four or thirty five. 984 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 2: I said, this is a great term for a locker 985 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 2: room and not for actual life, because I don't want 986 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 2: to feel old. 987 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: But you don't think I feel I don't think he 988 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: feels right, Okay, you don't think Bodovine is right, that 989 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: he's dodging the real answer, which is thirty years old, 990 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: because he's going to be thirty years old. He could 991 00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: be unk. 992 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 2: Nah, thirty is too young, man. 993 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: Thirties young? I agree, thirty is young. I got called 994 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 1: unk for the first time at a No Dunk's Live show, 995 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: the last one we did in Vegas. One of the 996 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: guys that was there, I think I was talking about 997 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: the nineties Bowl, the nineties Bulls, and he's like, oh, 998 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: that's unk, and that is pretty youngk. That was literally 999 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: thirty years ago that the Bulls were doing anything in 1000 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: the NBA. 1001 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 2: But that's just a term for old things. 1002 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: Old head. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, 1003 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess in the NBA podcast game, 1004 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: we're probably yunk tests you you. 1005 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 2: Know, the new unks every yunk. Yeah, no problem. I 1006 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 2: got no problem embracing that for sure. Yeah, here we are. 1007 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: I got two guys on I'm playing on a men's 1008 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: league team. We had some changeover for our roster due 1009 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: to injuries and people living far away to twenty two 1010 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 1: year olds. On my men's league team, I've got an 1011 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: eleven year old. They are much closer in age than 1012 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: they are. 1013 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: To me, well, do you play against twenty two year olds, 1014 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: because that would be the painful part like playing as 1015 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 2: I do. 1016 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely the oldest guy in the entire league. 1017 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: I am for my men's league. I'm probably grandpa for 1018 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: my men's league. 1019 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: So that's that's great. 1020 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: I know, I'm actually kind of proud of it. They 1021 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: call some guy on the other team called me Biggins 1022 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. 1023 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 1024 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: I was like, what, Biggins, I'll. 1025 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: Take Biggins just because you're a big guy. 1026 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm tall. 1027 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 2: Your position. Biggins. That's a good that's Biggins. That's a 1028 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,280 Speaker 2: really good term. Playing with the young guys, that's fun. 1029 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean, in fact, you got two new guys. That's cool. Well, 1030 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 2: it's it's good for you because they're obviously agile and 1031 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 2: will never stop moving. But it's when you have to 1032 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: guard somebody that's twenty two or twenty three and you 1033 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 2: got to be able to hang left to right, right 1034 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 2: to left, front to back with somebody that you know. 1035 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. That's not encouraging. But shout out to 1036 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: be GiMA here in the Scream team, who says Biggins 1037 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: is better than Oldin's I do play in a jersey 1038 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: that on the back it says old Mud. That's what 1039 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: the girls call me as a nickname is Old Mud. 1040 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: So I'm running out there, grayest hair in the entire league, 1041 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: rocking in old Mud jersey and literally just playing like 1042 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: Cavan Looney offensive rebounds, screens, defense and making layups. So 1043 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm unk. Maybe I'll go by unk this. 1044 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: Year on the show. I guess that's who we are. 1045 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 2: We are the NBA unk podcasters used to call this 1046 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 2: the the og podcasters to start the show. I guess 1047 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: we're we can embrace the NBA anks. I think we 1048 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: could the. 1049 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: Unk of the NBA P podcasting world. That is us, 1050 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: the unk of the reality television show. It's No Buff's 1051 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: Survivor season forty nine, forty nine seasons. That's unk when 1052 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: it comes to television. We recap the show JD and 1053 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: I yesterday over on the No Buff Speed Task. I 1054 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: know we've sucked you into the world of Survivor. Would 1055 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: you think of episode one? 1056 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh, not to be all mundane like you guys sort 1057 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 2: of described it like this. The first episode is never 1058 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 2: bank bank Bank. It really gets the end. I will 1059 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: say though, I think they because usually it's just okay, here, 1060 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 2: get to know these people, and there's never really a 1061 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 2: high or low. Uh, it's not all super exciting. I 1062 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 2: will say though, the beginning opening cut of a sharp line, 1063 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 2: like a fun piffy line from everybody like hey, I'm 1064 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm winning this thing, or this is gonna be the 1065 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 2: easiest million dollars in my life, or you know something 1066 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 2: other random like that got me into it. 1067 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: That was on. 1068 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 2: I was a good cut, I thought. 1069 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: For I like that too. I thought was pretty sweet. 1070 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was solid, and I mean the cast is 1071 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 2: it's picked very well. You got Yeah, I'm excited. 1072 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,399 Speaker 1: It takes me literally one two hour episode to be like, okay, 1073 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: we are one hundred percent back. Yeah, exciting times. What 1074 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: else you got going on this weekend? Man? 1075 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 2: You doing anything exciting this weekend? Uh? 1076 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: You know. 1077 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: I will be watching for some sports. I'm sure the 1078 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 2: Bills are going to stay undefeated unless this is their 1079 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 2: bye week. 1080 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, they play somebody, I don't know who 1081 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: it is. 1082 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 2: Next week. Going to the art show in the city, 1083 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: Danielle wants to go to I say in the city 1084 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 2: because I'm outside the city now. It's fun to say 1085 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 2: in the city, like Michael Porter Junior should say the 1086 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 2: city as a city. That's what the that's what they 1087 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,959 Speaker 2: call it in New York. Yeah, the art show should 1088 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 2: be good. I think that's it. 1089 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: What do you got, Ah, I'm gonna go see one 1090 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: battle after another today that new Leonardo DiCaprio movie. People 1091 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: are mentioning w NBA Playoffs return tonight. I think we 1092 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: got game three fever Aces and Mercury Links. That should 1093 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: be exciting. And then look, it's the first day of fall, 1094 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: or that's the first week of fall, and that has 1095 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: been accurate for the leaves on my trees. So I'm 1096 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: getting out the leaf blower. I'm going getting out the 1097 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: leaf blower. But it's that time of year, tasks when 1098 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: you got to start leaf blowing for months straight lest 1099 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: they pile up on you. 1100 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, finally, finally, this is the week where well it's 1101 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: finally because finally it's the week where the leaf blowers 1102 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 2: are actually doing something because here down south we just 1103 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: we're here throughout the summer. Why are you using why 1104 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 2: are you pulling those out to blow? 1105 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: You don't need it yet, but now you do. 1106 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 2: Nah, this is the week Yeah, the change of the colors. 1107 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait to go see them. I'm going to 1108 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 2: Northern Georgia in a couple of weeks. Hey, you get 1109 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: close to you know, West Virginia. 1110 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh man, look at those leaves. 1111 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 2: The colors are are gorgeous. 1112 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: It's time, it is time, and it's time for us 1113 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: to get out of here. So let me introduce you 1114 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: to my nephew, the Clipper. Bro. You heard it here first. 1115 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. 1116 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember No Dunks is the 1117 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: original Unks of NBA podcasts. 1118 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: Embrace the weekend.