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Speaker 1: T mac.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned to Casey that you called him the guru

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks back. I think it was, and

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Speaker 2: it really meant something to him. I mean, what about

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Speaker 2: that that group? You know they go over looked until

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Speaker 2: something goes wrong basically, So is that part of him

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Speaker 2: essentially saying to me, wow, that that was really nice

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Speaker 2: of him to say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean his job is a thankless job, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's it's nobody ever mentions a long snapper to something

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Speaker 1: wrong happens most of the time. So you know, being

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Speaker 1: in that position, doing that job and doing it as

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Speaker 1: long as he's been doing it, and for somebody to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge it, you know, it's like anything else, everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to be acknowledged, right, Everybody wants to be encouraged. So

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Speaker 1: when you when you give somebody that type of acknowledgment

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Speaker 1: and you show your appreciation towards me what they do

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Speaker 1: in a thankless type of job, you know, I understand

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Speaker 1: it because I was one of them.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was a long snapper before.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's one of those jobs nobody really talked

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Speaker 1: about until something goes wrong.

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Speaker 2: So is that top of mind for you with your

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Speaker 2: whole special teams group, knowing we don't say much unless

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Speaker 2: something goes wrong, someone missus the kick doesn't make the kick,

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's just that's our job, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, that's that's what we sign up for.

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Speaker 3: So we understand that. We know what it is. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a coach, you know, you make decisions.

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Speaker 1: I decided I want to coach specialty, so I know

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Speaker 1: what comes along with that, right, I decided to coach

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Speaker 1: offensive defense.

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Speaker 3: And they understand that too. You know. In the seventh grade,

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Speaker 3: Graham Gno wanted to be a kicker and.

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Speaker 1: He chose he chose that path, right, So the casey

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Speaker 1: so uh in case he was a linebacker and a

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Speaker 1: long snapper. So that we understand it, that's what it is,

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Speaker 1: and that's the job.

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Speaker 3: Four kickers. Four kickers in the season is what feeling

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Speaker 3: looks like. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: But I told y'all, I told you this early in

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Speaker 1: this season. I say, you don't want to get on

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Speaker 1: the kicker train, you know, because that's the destination is

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Speaker 1: unknown because you don't know once so once that train

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Speaker 1: gets rolling, you never know where it's going to end.

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Speaker 1: So Uh, but you know it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: We make the adjustments, We will make excuses, just keep

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Speaker 1: it moving. He's case good, like, he's fine. You know,

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Speaker 1: well he's gonna be an option for so we'll find

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Speaker 1: out what we're gonna do on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: But he's doing he's doing well. Yeah, Jamie could kick

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Speaker 3: he could So we'll see. Where's you talk about kid?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Like technique stuff that you guys are working on when

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Speaker 3: he first came. Where is he stand on that? He's

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Speaker 3: getting better? You know, he's working at it.

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Speaker 1: Uh And and you know young specialists are always a

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Speaker 1: work in progress, you know, so those guys are always

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Speaker 1: trying to find a routine, trying to tweak certain things

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Speaker 1: and you know, just work on a little small details

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Speaker 1: of what he what he's doing. You know, being around

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Speaker 1: Randy and and Graham has been huge for him. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost unheard of, you know, even during

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Speaker 1: the off season. This rarely happens, you know, so but

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Speaker 1: he's he's been taking advantage of it.

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Speaker 3: And I told him, you know.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a God said for you, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be able to be around two veteran kickers have

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Speaker 1: had double digit years that have both started over one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty games, you know, playing one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty games in the same building as you at the

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Speaker 1: same time as you know, it's big for him.

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Speaker 3: You guys probably practice one hundred things a year that

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Speaker 3: you never actually use.

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Speaker 1: So what kind of point of pride is it for

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Speaker 1: a coach when it goes well, when Gunner is the

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Speaker 1: holder and Gillen's kicking the field goal.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's it's something that we do practice.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we it's not practiced a lot, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like anything else, every so often it

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Speaker 1: comes up, you know, so and we were ready for it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Jamie did all three in college, so

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Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. And then Gunner was a

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Speaker 1: holder in college for three years, so I mean his

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Speaker 1: whole time in college, so it's.

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Speaker 3: Not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And he's a great athlete, you know, so the hand

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Speaker 1: eye coordination is there with him, and Jamie's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best ball strikers I've ever coached.

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Speaker 1: So you feel comfortable with him outdoors, and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of kicking longfield, yeah, if.

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Speaker 3: You have to.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Jamie drop kick a sixty yard field goal, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: out of his hand. Yeah, I've seen him do it,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I have no issue with Jamie kicking

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Speaker 1: anything long. That's probably the best thing he can do

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Speaker 1: is kick a long field goal.

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Speaker 3: So Jamie's very, very talented.

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Speaker 2: Did Jamie get that lot kick?

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Speaker 3: No? No, that that was not that. That had nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with block kick. I mean you know when

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Speaker 3: they ran into him.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, he I mean he hit him, but

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Speaker 1: that's that's not when he heard himself.

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Speaker 3: Were bringing someone kick it from outside? Still be on

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Speaker 3: the table because you said options. I'm just curious, like

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Speaker 3: what's on the table? We'll see did you get a kick?

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Speaker 3: If you know, I know you lost the game, but

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Speaker 3: you know, Jamie kicking a field goal in an NFL game,

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Speaker 3: you know, I know he got a kick at it.

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Speaker 3: Did you get a kick out of it? Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's that's significant.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, we're trying to go check

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Speaker 1: track down the ball and they but it was it

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Speaker 1: was big for him just to be able to kick

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Speaker 1: a field goal, being a punter in this league and

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Speaker 1: make it, you know, and that I ronment, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: How much did gunner coming in solving this shield.

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Speaker 3: It definitely helped. It definitely helped.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, he gives you a guy back there

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Speaker 1: with experience that's been in different situations. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: played in New England, he's played in Pittsburgh and difficult

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Speaker 1: environments and wind and conditions, and you know, when you

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Speaker 1: get into January, December, you know that's those are the

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Speaker 1: types of guys you want back there that's been in

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Speaker 1: those situations.

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Speaker 3: And he played at Bemnji State, so