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Speaker 1: Y'all, welcome to the Crime Roundup with Nancy Grace and

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum. Nancy Grace, we have got to talk about

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Speaker 1: the importance of visiting a crime scene. And I just

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Speaker 1: have to say, way back in the day when we

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Speaker 1: first started, nobody ever left the Golden Tower, as we

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Speaker 1: called it. Nobody. There was never a prosecutor own a

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Speaker 1: crime scene and then enter you. Oh my gosh, you

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Speaker 1: would come out. You would walk it, you would ask questions,

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Speaker 1: you would help, you would be able to just absorb

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Speaker 1: everything about it so that eventually you could paint the

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Speaker 1: picture for the jury.

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Speaker 2: You know, Cheryl, here's a great example of how that works.

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Speaker 2: I recall a murder. It was over a drug debt.

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Speaker 2: But before you think, oh, the victims just a doper.

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Speaker 2: The victim was a nineteen year old boy who bought

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Speaker 2: one hit of crack one hit five dollars bag in

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Speaker 2: front of his mother's home, and according to the defense,

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Speaker 2: an eyewitness could see that it wasn't the defendant. I

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Speaker 2: went to the scene, of course, to meet the mom,

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Speaker 2: who became a lifelong friend of mine. Oh, Cheryl, I

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Speaker 2: just got to tell you I love her so much.

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Speaker 2: She's passed away now, but I've walked into her living room.

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Speaker 2: It was, oh gosh, maybe five or six o'clock and

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Speaker 2: she was getting ready for supper. She let me in

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Speaker 2: and her whole living room was white, like this beautiful

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Speaker 2: white sofa and chairs and a white rug and she

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Speaker 2: had everything covered in that clear plastic so it won't

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Speaker 2: ruin your first for people like me.

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Speaker 3: And I remember I sat down on a wick can.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I didn't move again. I just wrote

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Speaker 3: really fast. But oh, I just loved her so much.

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Speaker 3: But the point was, she was the one that came

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Speaker 3: and sat on the front road during the murder trial

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Speaker 3: through all the autopsy evidence and knitted. She knitted, and

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 2: Say, do you want to leave, because you know, I

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Speaker 2: know this is going to be very hard for you. No,

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Speaker 2: she sat there and looked at the jury the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I loved her so much.

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Speaker 4: Anyway of her at the scene, I went and I

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Speaker 4: saw a huge hedge and where the witness for the

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Speaker 4: defense was standing.

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Speaker 2: There's no way they could have seen what happened. And

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Speaker 2: the doper murdered this boy over a twenty dollar drug debt.

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Speaker 2: A twenty dollar drug debt. My point is if you

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Speaker 2: don't go to the scene and do your homework, it

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Speaker 2: comes back to fight you in the neck. That witness

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Speaker 2: could have destroyed my case.

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Speaker 1: And you wouldn't have known it you had gone there.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly, Okay, now I know you're working your way

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Speaker 2: up to something, probably using my own words against me,

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Speaker 2: But go ahead. I'm prepared. I know your way. No,

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Speaker 2: you're sneaking way.

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Speaker 1: I just remember walking a scene with you and you

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Speaker 1: pointed out like I was uber concentrating on the scene,

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Speaker 1: and you were like, what's through those woods?

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, what scene was that?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the case, but you'll remember this part

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Speaker 1: because I was so concentrating on the scene, but you

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Speaker 1: said what through those woods? And I hesitated. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at you like I'm not sure what she's asking,

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Speaker 1: and you went, look, is it a church on the

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Speaker 1: other side? Is it a liquor store? It matters because

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Speaker 1: if the killer came from there, he might have been

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Speaker 1: doing something prior that we can connect, we can locate him.

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Speaker 2: You know, for a moment, I thought you were talking

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Speaker 2: about a silver Comet trail where you know, the perp

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Speaker 2: had been hiding and attacking women when they would come

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Speaker 2: biking and jogging. You know, you really have to want

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Speaker 2: to hurt somebody to yank them off of to chase

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Speaker 2: them down on a bicycle and yank them off. I

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Speaker 2: guess you remember him, but he did.

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Speaker 1: The importance of visiting the scene. You see time after

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Speaker 1: time after time. You don't see prosecutors at a scene.

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Speaker 1: You don't see people visit and then revisit and then

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Speaker 1: broaden their scope, which is so important. Like even Delphi

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Speaker 1: when you sent me out there. It's not just the bridge, y'all.

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Speaker 1: The important is on the other side of where the

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Speaker 1: bodies were found. Where do you come out? Is it

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Speaker 1: a cemetery, Is it a road? Is it a liquor store?

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Speaker 1: You need to know the killer knows, so you need

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Speaker 1: to know every pathway. Well, this past weekend, you know,

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Speaker 1: I went down to Belusia County, as you know, because

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Speaker 1: you were one of the ones that said, yeah, get

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Speaker 1: down there. We need to have eyes, boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: And it's the case of Laura Lee's spear.

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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, just wait. That just gets me so distraught.

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Speaker 2: Laura Lee and Cheryl. I can't say it enough. I've

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Speaker 2: worked with Mark Klass a really long time. And as

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Speaker 2: you know, his daughter Polly was abducted and murdered, and

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Speaker 2: she was having a sleepover at her home where she

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Speaker 2: lived with her mother Mark. They were split. Mark lived

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Speaker 2: a short distance away, and this horrible guy I hat

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Speaker 2: didn't say his name, comes in, sneaks into the home

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Speaker 2: and takes Polly, sex assault and murders her. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: the story. Mark class has devoted his life to helping

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Speaker 2: find missing people and solve and solved thomisides. And he

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Speaker 2: told me, and I verified it that over thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of all abductions, especially stranger abductions, is what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 2: Over thirty percent of those occur as it relates to

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Speaker 2: the school bus stop, getting to school, walking to school,

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Speaker 2: the pickup line, something about school, coming home on the bus.

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Speaker 2: I mean you remember being ombie who was miraculously found

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Speaker 2: after a decade having been taken off the school bus.

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Speaker 2: It just it goes on and on and on. You know,

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Speaker 2: you've got Douger, you just I can name them all

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Speaker 2: off the top of my head. J C. Duger. So

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Speaker 2: this goes on and on, and that's what happened here Laarlie,

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Speaker 2: just fifteen. She gets off the bus, April twenty five,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, and she is kidnapped, shot and killed

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Speaker 2: in DeLand, Florida. Her murder has never been sought. Now,

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Speaker 2: how can that be? Who is in that area of DeLand,

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Speaker 2: Florida near the school.

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Speaker 1: Bus and Nansie Her mama said she could set a

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Speaker 1: clock by this child. If she said she's going to

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Speaker 1: be home at one o'clock, she's hitting that door at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock. Well, from the school bus stop where they

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Speaker 1: would drop her off was a straight shot to her house.

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Speaker 1: The road is straight as an era. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: got some trees and some coverage. But she didn't have

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Speaker 1: to get off that main road, you know, Deerfoot.

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Speaker 2: Well, did you walk home from school? Because I did?

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely I did.

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Speaker 2: I did too. We would catch the bus to school

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Speaker 2: and then walk home. Was a little over a mile

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Speaker 2: and I'd usually be with a group of everybody else

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Speaker 2: walking home. But sometimes, no, boy, have things changed.

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Speaker 1: Huh, things have so changed. We didn't even take the bus.

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Speaker 1: We walked the whole way, and of course, to save time,

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Speaker 1: cut through the woods. But the interesting thing about where

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Speaker 1: Laura Lee was in her family, she had an older

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Speaker 1: sister that wasn't on the bus anymore, she had graduated,

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Speaker 1: and then a younger sister that took another bus because

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Speaker 1: she was still in middle school that day. Laura Lee

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Speaker 1: was the only kid on her street that was in

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Speaker 1: high school that was on that bus. So she got

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Speaker 1: off by herself. Several people saw her. The bus driver

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Speaker 1: saw her start walking. There was a couple that was

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Speaker 1: selling plants kind of at the intersection. They saw her

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Speaker 1: and then nothing. Now, when I got to the scene,

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Speaker 1: I started where the bus dropped her off, drove to

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Speaker 1: her family home, then kept going to the crime scene.

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Speaker 1: To the crime scene is really unusual. It's way off

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Speaker 1: the road.

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Speaker 2: And let me just guess you were doing a selfie

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Speaker 2: video the entire time that you want me to put

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Speaker 2: on TV? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 2: Please and call me the video. Go ahead and call.

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Speaker 1: It exclusive footage.

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Speaker 3: So Cheryl McCollum videos herself again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds perfect. The video files of Cheryl McCollum.

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Speaker 2: I want to circle back to something you said. You

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Speaker 2: said something super important. You said a lot of things important,

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Speaker 2: but the fact that you said her mother knew immediately

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Speaker 2: she gets off that bus at three point fifteen, as

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Speaker 2: I recall South Spring Garden Avenue. Is that right, South Spring.

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Speaker 1: Garden are cool?

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Speaker 2: Bus? Okay? Within thirty minutes. Thirty minutes, her mom, Barbara

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Speaker 2: knows something is wrong and reports her missing to police.

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Speaker 2: That's like my daughter. If I told you she has

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Speaker 2: a little job this summer, she and John David at

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Speaker 2: a local hospital. Now I know for a fact that

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Speaker 2: she will come straight home. My son. If I look

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Speaker 2: on Life three sixty, he's at Chick fil A getting

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Speaker 2: a lemonade. He's driving through the school to seek anybody's

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Speaker 2: playing basketball. I'm just watching him go round and around,

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Speaker 2: and finally he washes up at home. But Lucy come, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she comes straight home. And that was like our household.

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Speaker 2: Were you the wanderer or did you? Or you the

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Speaker 2: predictable one?

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Speaker 1: Girl? You already know that, Sheila. You could set a

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Speaker 1: watch by Shelley. I mean, Shelley, it could be Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You just don't never know

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Speaker 1: when she's gonna come back. But you and I talk

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Speaker 1: all the time. Patterns, patterns, patterns. This child was a

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Speaker 1: to b. That bus dropped her off. She was in

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Speaker 1: her house within ten minutes the only time that was

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Speaker 1: not the case, she stopped at a neighbor's that she

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Speaker 1: her mama called that neighbor and said, Hey, it's Laura

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Speaker 1: Lee down there. She said, yeah, ain't say here, she's

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Speaker 1: petting the horses. And then she got home. So literally,

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Speaker 1: within ten minutes, mama was already calling neighbors to Belusia

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Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department. Credit when Mama calls, they send deputies immediately.

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Speaker 1: When they can't find her in a reasonable amount of time,

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Speaker 1: they put a helicopter in the air. The helicopter is

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Speaker 1: the one that saw her. Now, when I was there,

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Speaker 1: this is the part that just punched me in the gut.

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Speaker 1: I drive from the bus stop to the crime scene.

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Speaker 1: In order to get to the crime scene A to

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Speaker 1: B you have to pass her house. So literally, this

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Speaker 1: killer grabs her and drives her past her house.

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Speaker 2: What if he went the other way, Well, in.

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Speaker 1: Order to do that, he would have had to do

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Speaker 2: Because he's so concerned about the traffic walls.

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Speaker 1: No, but what I'm saying is I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would have taken that time. I think he was a

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Speaker 1: to b I think this was over very quickly. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would have turned around, gone on the

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Speaker 1: main drag and then had to do a couple lefts

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Speaker 1: to come back in. Now where it was, there was

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Speaker 1: a home burned to the ground a year prior, and

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Speaker 1: nobody rebuilt. They just kept it that way. So it

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Speaker 1: was known to some of the local kids, and they

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Speaker 1: would go there and drink and smoke and carry on.

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Speaker 1: So it was known to a group of young people.

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Speaker 2: And the railroad, remember and the railroad, and who knows

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Speaker 2: who hangs out around a railroad trestle, right.

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Speaker 1: And the railroad trestle is actually a little bit just

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Speaker 1: across the street, but at dead end from where the

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Speaker 1: crime scene was. So from the house to the railroad trestle,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could hit a golf ball easy. It's

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And it's interesting you brought that up because we

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Speaker 2: Gosh, you're giving me a flashback to Tara Grinstead. Tarah

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Speaker 1: Know, And here's the power of you. You are going

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Speaker 1: By racking that gun, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: Everybody calls it cycling through, But what it is is

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Speaker 2: One last thing. What about her being a cheerleader? Who

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Speaker 2: Were just about to say that, right, you know, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: And you owe so much of your career to me.

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Speaker 2: he could Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know I am a pible, so I do

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Speaker 1: think there's some things the sheriff could be doing I'd

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Speaker 1: like to instruct him about. But you know, for people

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Speaker 1: that don't know me, you make me sound so. But listen,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. This is the important thing to me,

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Speaker 1: and I just I want to thank you because you

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Speaker 1: always use your platform for such good And you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not a case that's high profile. This is

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Speaker 1: not a case that everybody's aware of. But this is

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Speaker 1: a case we can dog go and do something about

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Speaker 1: and I just appreciate you and the sheriff teaming up.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Cheryl, just this morning, before I hooked

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Speaker 2: up with you on the air, I was praying and said,

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Speaker 2: asked for the Lord to just show me. What do

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Speaker 2: you want me to do? Here? I am? And you know,

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Speaker 2: even people like us, like me can do something good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are other people clearly more talented, more powerful,

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Speaker 2: just with so many advantages. But even think about it,

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Speaker 2: even a donkey was used for good. Amen, So if

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Speaker 2: a donkey can be used for good, I guess I

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Speaker 2: can be too.

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Speaker 1: You talking, maybe think may that be a good shirt?

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Speaker 1: Use your ass for good?

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Speaker 2: Cheryl, all of our joking aside, I want to thank

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Speaker 2: you for lass owing the sheriff and bringing him in.

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Speaker 2: Anything we can do to ease the suffering of this family,

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Speaker 2: I want to do it. Let's go trying to solve.

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Speaker 1: The mater, Cheryl, Let's go solve a murder.

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Speaker 2: Good Bye, buddy, bye, honey.

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Speaker 1: I'm Cheryl McCollum. And this is the crime Roundup with

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Speaker 1: Zones Heaven