WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 74: Reasons For Optimism

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to figure out who his coaches and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where the practice field is and my locker is where.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's still in that phase of becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panther. So trying to say that you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>know what the roles are for all these guys is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy to think about. Right now, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for the Happy half Hour with your friends Kristen Balboni,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Brian and Darren Ghant. That's right, it's that time

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. Kristo Balboni here with Augusta Stone and

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Gant. Guys, what's up? Happy end of preseason? Happy

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<v Speaker 1>almost regular season. It's great to see you both. Good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you. We're so close at September December one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is September one. Somebody asked me this morning in

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<v Speaker 1>the office if I knew what today was, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? Do I know what today is? Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, no, what it's the anniversary of And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, mm hmmm. And he's like apple Chian State

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<v Speaker 1>beat Michigan on September one. And my response was today's

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<v Speaker 1>September one. I'm impressed that you know it was Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest, I'm still not My days are

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<v Speaker 1>still not right from the preseason. Yeah, it's when you

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<v Speaker 1>go through that schedule and you get on football coach

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<v Speaker 1>time and Monday's a Wednesday, and you know, and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>that it gets a little confusing. But we're here. We

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<v Speaker 1>made it. We have we've made it. And not only

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<v Speaker 1>are we on football coach time, we were on front

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<v Speaker 1>office time. And Scott Fitter has been busier than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's saying something because we know this man likes

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<v Speaker 1>to wheel and deal. He has done plenty of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had some trades happen. We've had the roster cut

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<v Speaker 1>down to what some might say is the final fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know it here at the Panthers is the

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<v Speaker 1>initial fifty three because we know that it will change

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<v Speaker 1>much more over the coming weeks. But I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to get just your initial thoughts on the roster cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with you, Darren Well. One of the most amazing

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<v Speaker 1>things to me to consider from where they've been and

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<v Speaker 1>where they are now is the sentence the Panthers traded

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<v Speaker 1>an extra offensive lineman because they had too many. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you roll that around in your head for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the what is the time point that that

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<v Speaker 1>would have sounded ridiculous six months ago, eight months ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was insane. Last year. We were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about fourteen lineups in seventeen weeks, bringing guys in off

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<v Speaker 1>the street who were playing on Sundays. It was just alarming.

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<v Speaker 1>And to have a surplus that you could send Dennis

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<v Speaker 1>Daily to Tennessee for basically a fifth round pick. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis in a seven for a five um and he

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted in the sixth round three years ago, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically a free three year rental on Dennis,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a serviceable player. I mean, Dennis was, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he had done some things. I mean, he has value

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody in the NFL, but he just got caught

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<v Speaker 1>in a numbers game here where he probably wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to make the roster, at least in its current incarnation,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going along at a couple of position. So

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<v Speaker 1>nine was the number of offensive linemen they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep. If they'd have kept in it had probably

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<v Speaker 1>been Dennis. But um, Yeah, it's just alarming to me

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<v Speaker 1>to think that they are at the stage after bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in Ichy, after drafting Cade Mays, after Um going out

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<v Speaker 1>and signing Corbett and Bozeman that all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they have too many offensive linemen. Yeah, not a bad

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<v Speaker 1>position to be in Augusta doesn't even know those days.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the before Augusta time. They were dark times.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they were Yeah, it was a mess every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. But yeah, that to me was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the move, even though it wasn't the biggest move of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. It's like the thing that signals how far

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<v Speaker 1>they've come as a roster and putting this thing together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, last year that offensive line was a liability.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair to say that, and that's probably charitable,

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<v Speaker 1>and now all of a sudden, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go so far as to say the strength of the roster,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not a place where you're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, they've got to do something about the Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are so many other blanks that they're still

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<v Speaker 1>working on. So, Darren, you said that was not maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest move of the week, So I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know in you guys mind, what was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>move of the week. The biggest move of the week, Augustin.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's Levisco Chanel. I think it's a he's

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<v Speaker 1>a very well put together receiver. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how many wide receivers they kept, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's something we've talked about. But it's depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>where do they see Andre Roberts, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's more of a return guy. He's being counted

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<v Speaker 1>in the numbers at least in our articles, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven wide receivers. But in theory, you know, you bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Chanel and then you think, at least I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people thought, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's going to happen here, like attrition wise to

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver room, And there wasn't a ton you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was like the people we thought, but

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<v Speaker 1>they kept Shy Smith and or Schard Higgins both. They

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<v Speaker 1>kept Andre Roberts and Chanel at least on the initial

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. Yeah, and once now that they're down to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three, the next thing that's going to come up

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<v Speaker 1>is who's on that game day forty six and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out inactives that receiver room is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. Tune in the Panthers dot com at eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty am on September eleventh, because at first in active

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<v Speaker 1>list of the year will be curious because they can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep all six of I mean Andre will be up

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<v Speaker 1>to return. I mean you almost have to consider him.

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<v Speaker 1>It says wide receiver on the roster, but he's down

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<v Speaker 1>here with j J and Hecker uh and the specialist

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<v Speaker 1>in their little category. But on on game day, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>between shy terrorists, Higgins, Um, Robbie, Leviska DJ you can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep all six of those guys up on game day.

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<v Speaker 1>And where it becomes a little complicated is with a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Brandon Silstra no longer here. None of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are really known as special teams players or people

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<v Speaker 1>we even think would contribute a lot on special teams

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<v Speaker 1>at least for right now. For the past two years,

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<v Speaker 1>has been that person you are describing. Yeah, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. And there's no more Brandon on this roster.

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<v Speaker 1>And and we'll miss Brandon. He was a great human

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<v Speaker 1>being in addition to a very good special teams player

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<v Speaker 1>and the best backup kicker in the NFL. Um But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, trying to figure out how all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys fit is going to be an evolving thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they talked about that yesterday with channel coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they see all these different roles for him

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<v Speaker 1>and he could do a little of this and a

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<v Speaker 1>little of that and a little of this. He's walking

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<v Speaker 1>around meeting people, He's trying to figure out who his

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and where the practice field is and my locker

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<v Speaker 1>is where? And how do I get there? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>need a key? You know, he's still in that phase

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<v Speaker 1>of becoming a Carolina panther. So trying to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they know what the roles are for all

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<v Speaker 1>these guys is kind of crazy to think about right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a good problem to have that you have

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<v Speaker 1>all these different configurations that unfortunately you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to leave at least somebody out on game day or

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<v Speaker 1>do you wish you had it more set, more guys

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<v Speaker 1>that can do more things, Darren? You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it does. There is a question to be asked about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they show up in this personnel all

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<v Speaker 1>the time and do this, is that a sign? But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a couple of those guys, I mean right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a couple of those guys, especially DJ

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<v Speaker 1>and Chenault, because they can do so many different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robbie can play multiple positions. People People see Robbie

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<v Speaker 1>is just a straight lane speed guy. But Robbie caught

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of balls across the middle two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm in a lot of different situations. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to go across the middle. He's got some toughness

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<v Speaker 1>about him in that regard. And now I say little

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<v Speaker 1>and in the Chanuld experience is just when you see

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<v Speaker 1>him out there next to Robbie, it's like, whoa, those

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<v Speaker 1>two are different. Um, because Robbie's legs are about as

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<v Speaker 1>big around as my pin and channel. It's got these

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<v Speaker 1>big tree trunk leg But um, anyway, I mean having

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys who can do different things. At

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<v Speaker 1>least at the top of that, I think Shy is

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to figure out where he fits in tears,

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to figure out and and they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>those guys being able to learn how to do multiple things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think any of them are are there

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<v Speaker 1>quite yet? Still young guys yea, yeah, still with plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to learn and improve on, no doubt about it, although

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<v Speaker 1>they have great potential. I also want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is incredibly significant move, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers have their kicker, Eddie Piniero. At least it

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<v Speaker 1>seems that way right they have they have signed a kicker. Um. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>just awful, awful news about Zane Gonzalis and his groin injury.

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing very close when it happened. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>something you just never ever want to see. Zane just

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<v Speaker 1>incredible guy. Really provided stability for the Panthers at that position,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, it's not the Panthers have also you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the offensive line struggles over the last two years

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<v Speaker 1>until Panthers were able to find Zane Gonzalez. Um, that

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<v Speaker 1>position was one where there wasn't a lot of stabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Augusta is also not able to remember the

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<v Speaker 1>dark times at kicker. You know, the Joey Slag experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ryan Santo so era which gave us a great

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<v Speaker 1>name if nothing else. Mustache, fantastic mustache. Um, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure what I was more impressed with his mustache or

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<v Speaker 1>discussion alts three trunk legs. Um at any rate, I

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<v Speaker 1>digress Um, that's what we're here for. Yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 1>they had finally sorted that thing out and saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not just provided stability he was hitting all his kicks.

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<v Speaker 1>He had made seven team straight field goals prior to

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<v Speaker 1>that Buffalo game. Last year, NFC Special Teams Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Week several times. And when you when you find

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<v Speaker 1>that stability and somebody's playing really well, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have to get back into the revolving door and bringing

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<v Speaker 1>guys in. And you know, even even though Panero is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy for right now, I would be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't continue to work out kickers and just keep

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<v Speaker 1>the list up and and see what's out there in

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<v Speaker 1>case he's not the answer to that position. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. He's at least got some background with Chris Taber.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to talking to him a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about that when we catch him later on. But he's um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're looking for kickers in the first

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<v Speaker 1>week of September, that's kind of the spot you're in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this has been your first time where you come from,

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<v Speaker 1>you come from the college world. This has been your

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<v Speaker 1>first time when it comes to um cuts, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional process for a lot of guys. It's um

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<v Speaker 1>your head spinning around a little bit. So what have

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<v Speaker 1>you made of this whole process in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>the roster down to the initial fifty three. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, like, even though you know you're prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for like the emotions of everything and everyone tells you

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is, there is a mood. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the biggest thing, you know, And even in

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<v Speaker 1>the days leading up to it, there's like almost attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the jan mood is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that's very different again from covering college where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that level of intensity. It's where I've heard it's so

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<v Speaker 1>many times this week and it's so true. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you realized this this is a business, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, And that's it's you know, it's football and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun and it's passionate and everyone loves it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even talking with the coaches and the players,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you see, you know, hey, that was my

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<v Speaker 1>buddy and now you know he's heading to Seattle or

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<v Speaker 1>you know this this this Channault story, you know, whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he came up, Darren wrote it so well, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he drove up with his mom five hours

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<v Speaker 1>from Jacksonville in his electric car, and it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>think about five hours, but turned into what eight We

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<v Speaker 1>had to charge the electric car, which was incredible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently no superchargers along the corridor through South Carolina. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just, I don't know, you just realized, like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>these are these are people's lives. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing. And it's in their lives are being uprooted

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<v Speaker 1>and changed, changed and shifted and all these different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and you know, you know that you read it

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<v Speaker 1>on paper, but to see it play out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been fascinating. And I try not to get,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my heart into it too much. I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the way it is. It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh, learning from Darren a little bit. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding. Darn darn portrays himself as a tough guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a softy inside. I know it. Don't let

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<v Speaker 1>him tell you different. Don't tell anybody got imaged uphold,

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it is. It is bizarre. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you are in the building, when you're around these

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<v Speaker 1>people on cut day and you see somebody getting on

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<v Speaker 1>an elevator or you see somebody going downstairs to grab somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you cringe because you know, what's coming, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just you know, you try to keep your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>down sort of avoid eye contact a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>on a day like that because it's awful. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean for every even the undrafted rookies. These guys always

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<v Speaker 1>dream to get into the NFL. And if it's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who no one imagined ever had a shot to make it,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought they had a shot to make it. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always a tough day. And that's we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty three, but eight d sixty four dudes became

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<v Speaker 1>unemployed all at once the other day, like yikes. But

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<v Speaker 1>the flip side of that that is because the business

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<v Speaker 1>does go on. There's also an excitement among the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>and the personnel staff because it's like, okay, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>your fifty three. This is what we were building towards.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know what it looks like. Now it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more tangible. Now it's real, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at the way that things put together now

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<v Speaker 1>and it is far from a finished product because, like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, seven wide receivers, six defensive tackles at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's probably not the way they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the leveland game. Uh, we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're short onlinebackers, only five linebackers, and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, going back to zel Strick kind of

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<v Speaker 1>leaves you a little thin on the punt team because

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon was such a core special team are on all

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<v Speaker 1>four of them, and now you've got to figure out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do with that? Because Frankie Luvu's regular

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<v Speaker 1>on the punt team, Frankie Luver is probably not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be running down every punt while starting at linebacker and

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<v Speaker 1>playing a bigger role this year. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of moving parts and it's gonna be curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>how those things shakes out in the next couple of days. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Baker during the preseason game, I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you most looking forward to in the next two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and he said, you know, as hard as it is,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that some of the guys here at the time

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to be with us having that initial

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three and just being able to start putting the

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<v Speaker 1>plan together, being able to start really getting comfortable, um

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<v Speaker 1>with who my guys are on that offense, is it

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<v Speaker 1>a really really exciting time, right This is it's now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're now, we're preparing for the things that matter. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I cannot wait to see that. So I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to know Darren from you and you know, Augusta, this

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<v Speaker 1>will be your first time going through it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell everybody what is what's the coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it gonna be doing the next couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what starts now that you have your initial fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three and then also front office besides linebackers, what are

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<v Speaker 1>they focused in on? Yeah, I think for the coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Matt used the phrase it's a weird week

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not completely getting into Cleveland game plan. They're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a little bit of that stuff. The coaches are

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<v Speaker 1>working on a lot of game plan stuff behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the practice field they're using Wednesday Thursday is

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of teaching tools. It's a day to polish

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<v Speaker 1>up their own stuff. They did some extended team periods yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of work on two minutes and situational stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and I think they tried to use it as

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<v Speaker 1>almost bonus practices because when they finish up Thursday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>or this afternoon, Yes it's Thursday, Um, I already forgotten.

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<v Speaker 1>You said it very clearly earlier today, this Thursday, September,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely Thursday, and it will be all day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>When you said Wednesday and Thursday practice, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, today's Tuesday, right to practice. But

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<v Speaker 1>they they've tried to hold off on installing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of game plan and stuff like that. They'll get that

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<v Speaker 1>next week after the players get a weekend off because Friday, Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday off days for the guys and for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>and really the last until week thirteen, when the bye

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<v Speaker 1>hits it. You know, that's gonna be our next three

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<v Speaker 1>day weekend. We don't have to be in this building

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<v Speaker 1>and look at football and deal with football, although it

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<v Speaker 1>will still be dealing the way Darren is holding his

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<v Speaker 1>temples right now thinking about that, Joe, how many weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to thirteen minutes? Zero is thirteen? That's right? Um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, it's um that's the coaching staff personnel is

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<v Speaker 1>going to still be polishing this thing. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to uh, some folks down near this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still moving and and they're still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to get this guy, this guy, this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what do you do here here here at

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<v Speaker 1>this position. You know, there's a lot of stuff happening

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<v Speaker 1>and and it will continue to They've got to practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you want to talk about uh Laviska's travels,

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<v Speaker 1>jacobieson the new quarterback who's coming in on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>H I Gustin knows a little something about him. He

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<v Speaker 1>went to Georgia for like two minutes. He's probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bleary eyed because he just got

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<v Speaker 1>cut by Seattle and I think he was in on

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<v Speaker 1>a red eye. Aren't we all bleary eyed? So no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to take away from Jacobson's trouble. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a that is a long flight. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>long flight. So he's gonna probably catch a nap somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the stadium before practice today. We're gonna walk past

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<v Speaker 1>him out of the podcast studio just with a pillow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>be laid out in the hall, hiding in the press box. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he's here, new quarterback on the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>should be out on the practice field today. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff going on and just it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like you set that board and then you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and say, yeah, we need one of those, We

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<v Speaker 1>need a little bit more of this, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>just trying and Scott's whole thing throughout was keep the

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<v Speaker 1>best fifty three and there were guys. Again, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>six defensive tackles on the roster. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds weird, but they really like markwa McCall, the undrafted

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<v Speaker 1>rookie from Kentucky. They like what Phil Hoskins has done.

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<v Speaker 1>They have seen the promise of Davey on Nixon and

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<v Speaker 1>and what he can do. And he's another guy who

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<v Speaker 1>can do different things. I mean, he can probably play

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end honestly, um because of his length, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, they've got a bunch of individual guys

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted to keep, and so you keep the

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<v Speaker 1>ones you want and then figure out how to put

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces together. And that's sort of where they are

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<v Speaker 1>this week. I wonder, if you're a fan and you

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<v Speaker 1>are not following this as much as we all are,

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<v Speaker 1>how confident should the fans be feeling about this roster,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing of course that it is going to change before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to Week one with Cleveland, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday, September eleven and then even after that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and Augusta, I know that you can't compare it

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<v Speaker 1>to the last couple of years that that Darren and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been here, but I would say, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you feel pretty confident as a Panthers fan

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<v Speaker 1>from everything that I've seen in the building. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a very different UM team, and it was constructed very differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are opportunities available because of the draft, because

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<v Speaker 1>of certain trades. This feels like a team that is

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<v Speaker 1>way deeper than it's been the last two years. And

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<v Speaker 1>as both Matt ruland Scott Fitter have said, we're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to cut guys, which has not been the case.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been looking around at the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>man cuts UM in the past two years. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a position, like you said, where you can can

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<v Speaker 1>trade at Dennis Daily, where someone like Justin Burris, who

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<v Speaker 1>has been a starter the last couple of years, is

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<v Speaker 1>now on the practice squad. I'm feeling optimistic, Augusta, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the fans should be feeling? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I think you explained it so well, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>like I think the decisions before cut day. You know, trading,

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis daily, getting lebiscussion all here, and then like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, justin Burris to practice squad all that,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he was a starter. I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of optimism in the willingness to make moves

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know what I mean, like to be

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing to Okay, we're gonna try this. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not you know, scorched earth or anything. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they're they're like they're but they're exciting moves,

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<v Speaker 1>and there their reasons to be like okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like like Darren said, you know, they're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the board right now there, they know kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for. They're not settling for things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just because oh we need to do it by now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think there's a level of patients

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<v Speaker 1>and also a level of quick movements with movement, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that together I think is a reason for optimism.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a good start right now, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's like different pieces obviously that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to change, but there's a solid basis here. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic really beautifully.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell you're a writer in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you said that, that was just really, really beautifully eloquent, Darren.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that we haven't actually talked about when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about all the moves and and all the questions

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<v Speaker 1>is quarterbacks. So a couple of weeks ago when we

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<v Speaker 1>did this podcast, we had four quarterbacks in that room.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there are two healthy quarterbacks in that room, Baker

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<v Speaker 1>Mayfield and p J. Walker. Of course Matt corral with

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<v Speaker 1>the list. Frank injury a couple of weeks ago in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason game against the Patriots, and then Sam Donald

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<v Speaker 1>the high unkle sprain in um the third preseason game

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bills. The other nights. Are we worried about that? Is? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's it's not ideal for your backup

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback to be missing the first month of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's better than your starting quarterback. So on the

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<v Speaker 1>scale of things to freak out about, you know, it's bad,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. And and Sam, you know, say

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want about Sam, he's handled this situation well

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<v Speaker 1>and with grace, and he's actually played really well. And

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<v Speaker 1>and if you saw practice the way we did the

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<v Speaker 1>days after the decision, you you understand why people want

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to have Sam Donald on the roster and want him

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. Sam can make throws and Sam

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<v Speaker 1>can make play, so, um, it's gonna be an adjustment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, p J is a guy who PJ has

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<v Speaker 1>seen some stuff man in his career. He he was

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<v Speaker 1>basically he knew on a tlee that he was probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the outside of looking in of this

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<v Speaker 1>roster because they trade for Baker, they draft Mat Corral

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<v Speaker 1>and he's looking at the numbers saying, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably not gonna keep four. So um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>PJ had some awareness. But PJ was also with the

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<v Speaker 1>Colts when Andrew Luck retired at the end of training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>so weird situations are nothing new for p J Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think when you go out, um,

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about quarterbacks a lot because their quarterbacks. But

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<v Speaker 1>PJ having been around here, he's had the five months

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben McAdoo whatever, So you know, I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you start thinking about who your backup might be, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people would be tempted to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a guy from outside. But then you're training

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<v Speaker 1>someone on the fly, and could you go out and

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<v Speaker 1>find some vet, I guess, but you're not gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>anybody on the street immediately who's going to be more

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<v Speaker 1>helped you today than p. J. Walker is. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great point, great point, and uh, you know we've already

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<v Speaker 1>got to bring leviscussion up to speed. Baker Mayfield did

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<v Speaker 1>just get here two weeks before training camps, so everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is is still learning. But I think that's just such

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<v Speaker 1>a great point, Darren Um And uh, I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully Baker Mayfield stays healthy, with no reason to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he won't. And as as you said, Darren, the

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<v Speaker 1>initial assessment with Sam was sixty eight weeks and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're thinking it's more four to six weeks. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was from after the preseason games, and so the news

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<v Speaker 1>was better than maybe they anticipated. And if you saw

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<v Speaker 1>him go down and be carded off in that game

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<v Speaker 1>against Buffalo, which was just a nightmare third quarter by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Zane and Sam having a bang bang just

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it was reasonable to wonder if it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be longer than that. But fortunately for Sam

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not as bad. Matt said that yesterday. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we were afraid it was gonna be six day,

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<v Speaker 1>we get in there and look around, maybe it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be four to six now, so that's good news. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you're happy for Sam. He's he's still Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>He's walking around in his boot, he's on the by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just being Sam. I mean that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I respect about the guys. How steady he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's in a you know, nobody enjoys being injured.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sam's not showing any visible signs of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>distress or anything like that. He's still good to good

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<v Speaker 1>guy to have around. I was just thinking, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't see the boot, if you just saw

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<v Speaker 1>him from like the torso up, you wouldn't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong. Like he just walks in. He's in a

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<v Speaker 1>great mood. I was. I was just when when Darren

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about quarterbacks, I mean, think about personalities, especially

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<v Speaker 1>you think about Sam and PJ. I mean, these are

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<v Speaker 1>just two guys that are just they're very steady people.

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<v Speaker 1>PJ when we talked with him, I talked to them

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room after the game, just gracious, just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, you know, he I asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you see half the quarterback room get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what are your emotions And he was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it's awful to see, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm here and this is my job, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, just be able. Like like Darren said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he saw the riding on the wall, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with Matt Krow coming in, with Baker Mayfield coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still stayed steady. And now he's back up

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<v Speaker 1>week one probably you know what I mean, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>have you create, you have these personalities in this room,

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<v Speaker 1>creating this atmosphere of like good senses and good vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just it's it's a good vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're good people. I think that's good. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you both said it really well throughout this episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet producer Matt will make it the title

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode, reasons for optimism. It feels like the

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<v Speaker 1>theme of this week, even though we don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>day it is. We don't know if it's Thursday, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's Tuesday, you know, and we're not even on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there are a lot of reasons for optimism.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate both of you guys coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>sharing that with the fans. This has been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun and we'll see everybody next week on the

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Half Hour podcast.