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<v Speaker 1>Hello, social sleuths, Internet detectives, crime heads, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Real Time Crime. I'm one of your hosts, Leo Lamar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have with me my wonderful co host. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try not to pause this Timelly cow and We've

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<v Speaker 1>got Sometimes Dmitri with us. Today we're gonna be discussing

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<v Speaker 1>the new crime wave of in l A. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>revisiting Jesse Smallot, Elizabeth Holmes and getting down to business

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<v Speaker 1>discussing the case no one seems to want to touch

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<v Speaker 1>Glaine Maxwell with our first ever social sleuth slash celebrity detective,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Anderson. So excited to have him on because he

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<v Speaker 1>is amped up on his Instagram right now. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect guest. I'm super stoked because it appears that

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<v Speaker 1>so media is the only place that people are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Galaine Maxwell because I have not seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. Have has anyone else? I haven't seen it

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<v Speaker 1>in the news. Is why we can, Colonel Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why we can cover the hot topics first. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we're changing it up because we gotta wait for Justin

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<v Speaker 1>to cover that because he's going to give us every

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<v Speaker 1>little detailed plus you know, and more and more. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go like run through the hot

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<v Speaker 1>topics and then you know for me? And sometimes Dmitri

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<v Speaker 1>will comment, I just wanted to first check in with everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Florida, the great state of Florida. I did

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<v Speaker 1>make a Brian laundry joke in Boca at a comedy festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't go over well. The good people of Florida stand

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<v Speaker 1>by their own. Um, what was the joke? It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be repeated. Well, if you can't repeat it here,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe means it shouldn't have Well, well, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was in the middle of a crowd work interaction. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who has a wife asked me out during

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<v Speaker 1>my set. It was a whole thing. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're uncovering a crime right here and now, like now

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know everything about that. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>happy to bump a hot topic for this one. This

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<v Speaker 1>is hotter than anything here. Wait, I'm going to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy that I like that I met this week

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami's calling me right now. I'm not going to answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Should answer life? All? I answer understood. We'll do that

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<v Speaker 1>thing where we kind of like vet him for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I do it right now, you guys, yes or no,

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta make your choice. You're gonna have to brush

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<v Speaker 1>them off the phone though, so then it'll be awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>So just wait. Well, well, you don't want to seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a big deal like, oh, I'm doing my podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do my podcast, blah blah blah. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be too much, especially when we have x U c

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<v Speaker 1>l A star Kade McNown wife busted for grand theft.

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<v Speaker 1>To go over, Well, Teddy is really good it at

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<v Speaker 1>the segways and you're right. She allegedly lifted some handbags

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<v Speaker 1>and jewelry from her boss. So former U c l

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<v Speaker 1>A and NFL quarterback Kate mcnown's wife, she's in super

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<v Speaker 1>hot water after cops say she hatched and carried out

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<v Speaker 1>a plan to steal hundreds of thousands of dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>designer goods from philanthropists Sydney Holland. So Christina McNown is

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad way at the moment. She lifted Holland's purses, clothing, jewelry.

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<v Speaker 1>After a lengthy investigation, this has all been revealed, and

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<v Speaker 1>sources connected to the investigation tell us that McNown has

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<v Speaker 1>been a trusted assistant and stylist for Holland for the

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<v Speaker 1>last twelve years and had easy access to her personal belongings.

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<v Speaker 1>And she even saw some of the stolen items pop

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<v Speaker 1>up on sale online. But does she know she's in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad way, because my understanding is that she's going

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<v Speaker 1>about businesses. These are just posting happy things on on

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<v Speaker 1>her social media and whatnot. Well, she's got four accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of felony grand theft and is set to be rained

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<v Speaker 1>in February, so I'm pretty sure she knows things aren't

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<v Speaker 1>all hunky dory. I've never said hunky dory before. And

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<v Speaker 1>is it because did you watch The Real Housewives or something?

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<v Speaker 1>That is you gna say hunky Dorry? No, that is

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy Hilton said hunky Dorry. And and you know somebody

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<v Speaker 1>said hunky dorry and Kathy Hilton didn't know what it meant.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's become this meme all these things. But guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Sidney Holland, you do, Yes, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at our rundown and that's why my mouth was

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<v Speaker 1>a gap because I know her. Is I mean, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that is it a copy? I'm just saying you got

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<v Speaker 1>on her for hunky dor and you're like, my mouth

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<v Speaker 1>was a gate well using fun words today to metri

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<v Speaker 1>okay and try taking the s a t all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we can't help that. I elevated myself to

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh grade and then barely made it through twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, how do you think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get away with this? No? I just I also heard

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<v Speaker 1>that she noticed little things missing here and there throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the years. That's how you think you're gonna get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it a little by little, but didn't but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really think to connect the dots until bom bom boom

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Now, can I remind you this is not

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<v Speaker 1>as big but Cade McNown is the one that had

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<v Speaker 1>a little scandal of his own when he was at

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<v Speaker 1>U C. L A. And they were the football team

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<v Speaker 1>was parking in handicapped spots because they thought there were

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<v Speaker 1>above everything else. Um, not that it's the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like maybe in that family, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little we'll just do what we want. Maybe they have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of entitlement issues allegedly were their grades handicapped?

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<v Speaker 1>That that goes straight to the lawyers. Um, Because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to be worried about here in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>You're lucky to be at home with your fam right

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<v Speaker 1>now in Florida. In Florida, well maybe you're not that lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>But I heard there's an alligator in the swamp and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to interview it to see if it's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that got Brian. I don't think it's him. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see his teeth in there. But there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>violent l a crime wave going on. M hm. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard through the media and seen in socials how

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<v Speaker 1>the crime wave is taking over Los Angeles. People are

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<v Speaker 1>getting held at gunpoint on Melrose in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the day while they're outside shopping or having dinner. Most recently,

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<v Speaker 1>a career criminal was arrested in a fatal shooting of

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<v Speaker 1>philanthropist Jacqueline Avant at the Lavish brev Bebara heard home,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening to me? Lavish? Lavish, lawish? And I also

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<v Speaker 1>hit my head. So it's are we going to get

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<v Speaker 1>through this? Not with that attitude, okay? Lavish Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 1>home she shared with her husband, Clarence, who's a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>year old music producer inducted into the Rock and Roll

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Rock and roll is there's something am I not? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to work on this. I might have

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<v Speaker 1>to check over the reading. This is a very serious

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<v Speaker 1>crime and I'm not doing it justice. And it's so

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting because Jacqueline was so beloved and everyone is blaming

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<v Speaker 1>the new laws that were put in place by District

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney Gusson. Left wing lawmakers and activists pushed a litanyum

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<v Speaker 1>progressive reforms that helped violent criminals spend less time behind bars,

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<v Speaker 1>and some say that justice is not only fleeting, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's twisted. The l a p D Is quoted saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's a ship show over here. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>the l a p d Is saying it, it's probably true.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, bad guys are released quicker than we finished

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<v Speaker 1>the paperwork. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the tip. I mean, there's a tyson on

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<v Speaker 1>the way. I was scared you were going different guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, I was like, this is a family show. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. We're talking. We're thinking that could have happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. I think everybody gets like there's an

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<v Speaker 1>overall feeling in the country. I think starting from Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it's not where people think no one's really

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<v Speaker 1>being held accountable for anything. So I feel like crime

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<v Speaker 1>is going up because if no one is being held accountable,

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<v Speaker 1>then why not just do it broad daylight? On Melrose.

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<v Speaker 1>People following people up to their doors, like when they're

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<v Speaker 1>out walking with their kids and stuff. It's insane. What

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<v Speaker 1>about how they're going into homes. I just read about

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<v Speaker 1>the arm robbers who came into somebody's house where they

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<v Speaker 1>were having a party and stole all their watches, their handbags, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is happening? I also sell the video

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys see it of the woman going into

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<v Speaker 1>her house and with her baby and a stroller and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys coming in after her and taking her bag,

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<v Speaker 1>and like she's like having to grab her baby and

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<v Speaker 1>like protect it. Just it needs to stop. So the

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<v Speaker 1>gates open to her house, she walks in with her baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Then these two guys walk in because the gates are

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<v Speaker 1>still closing, you know, gates take a second to close.

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<v Speaker 1>They come in. They literally just take her backpack off

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<v Speaker 1>of her. She complies, and then it almost looks Teddy

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<v Speaker 1>stop me if I'm wrong, but it almost looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're going for the baby, and she si. I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping it was that they were taking like her watch

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<v Speaker 1>off or something. It did look like that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping that's what that was, because then he took

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<v Speaker 1>something and then turned. But also the comments of the

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<v Speaker 1>video or like to badge and have a gun. This

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<v Speaker 1>could have been over. It's like, oh my god, why

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<v Speaker 1>is everyone going there? How about people need to stop

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<v Speaker 1>committing crimes in Los Angeles and getting away with them

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<v Speaker 1>or committing crimes period. And where it's all stemming from

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<v Speaker 1>is from l A District Attorney George Gasson, who people

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<v Speaker 1>are heavily trying to recall right now. They tried to

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<v Speaker 1>recall him previously a few months ago, it did not work,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're trying again following the fatal shooting of

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<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline Avant, and support is of the effort announced on

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<v Speaker 1>the steps of the Hall of Justice on Monday that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to serve him with a notice of intent

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<v Speaker 1>to move him from the office, and organizers have a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty days to collect more than thousand signatures

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<v Speaker 1>of registered voters to do so to begin the process

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<v Speaker 1>and have another vote for a recall. So The issue

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<v Speaker 1>is that he created reform on bail, one of many issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and so people are blaming this because he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring um equality into bail, because they were saying that

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<v Speaker 1>some people weren't able to afford bail and rich people

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<v Speaker 1>were just getting off because they could afford the bail.

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<v Speaker 1>So by eliminating bail, essentially it would bring equality to

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<v Speaker 1>the jail in prison and crime system. But instead, what

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing is encouraging criminals to continue to commit crime

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<v Speaker 1>because there are no punishments. They essentially are let go

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing to hold them in jail, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they commit crimes again. And I started reaching out to

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of my friends, you know, whether they are

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<v Speaker 1>left or right, or red or blue, or however you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it, everybody kind of agrees this guy

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<v Speaker 1>should be gone. How was he voted in the first place?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we spent so much time recalling people that never

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<v Speaker 1>should be in office to begin with, I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my guess is I mean, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>can say this, but I think with everything that was

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<v Speaker 1>happening with Trump, everybody was just so wanting somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>had progressive thinking and whatnot that they just hoped that

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<v Speaker 1>this guy would be able to create change, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>created the wrong kind of change. And now robberies are

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<v Speaker 1>up three point two percent this year from last year

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<v Speaker 1>it was too far the other direction, and homicides are

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<v Speaker 1>up almost that's it. It's outrageous, and I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the place now where and in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>you're worried to go even into Beverly Hill to eat

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<v Speaker 1>or shop or do whatever it may be, because people

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<v Speaker 1>are just taking matters into their own hands. They want it,

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<v Speaker 1>they just take it. And we've got to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to a place where if you create, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you commit a crime, you get in trouble for it,

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<v Speaker 1>you do the time. Well, so apparently what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>these criminals, a lot of them are career criminals, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are following wealthy people and watching them shop and

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<v Speaker 1>then following back to their homes. Yeah, so they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>they're s talking people essentially, and because nobody's working right now,

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<v Speaker 1>they have all this time to do this. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just frightening. I mean, it's insane. So what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, So, like the other day, someone asked my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter to go hang out somewhere like an outdoor area,

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<v Speaker 1>like outdoor mall, and I was like, it's I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sad to say, but I don't feel comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much ship that can go wrong and does

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong nowadays that I really, you know, I narrow

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I'm like, is that worth it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>to think that going to like an outdoor shopping area

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<v Speaker 1>is now a gamble? Going to the school is now

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<v Speaker 1>a gamble. I mean, even think about what the Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>school shooting. She does it again, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but effortlessly. We'll talk about it in a second. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say one more thing. I remember in

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of the pandemic, when everyone is afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to leave their houses because we didn't understand the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>quite yet, and everyone thought if he stepped outside, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably die. Crime was down because no one was leaving

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<v Speaker 1>their houses. But then once people started to understand how

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<v Speaker 1>the virus worked, or they had already gotten COVID and

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<v Speaker 1>gotten over it, people started committing crimes again. And the

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<v Speaker 1>air bag was stolen off my steering wheel. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>desperate people started to get. And then on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the new reforms. It need it impossible for them to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to not committing crimes. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't have jobs. They just continually commit crimes. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with a loose air bag? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe this? Apparently it's super valuable. So he

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<v Speaker 1>stole the horn and my airbag. It's so expensive. It

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<v Speaker 1>almost totally look for the guy walking around beeping. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, totaled my car. That's hilarious. Demitri Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was such a bummer, except for the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I did get a convertible for a month and that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a bummer. So thank you who to whoever

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<v Speaker 1>stole I don't invite crime. Please ustume my air bag now,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. It's it's happened once and that shan't happened again.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't, it will not. The Michigan High school shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>A gunman opened fired Oxford High School in Michigan on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday I room, shooting eleven people. Four students were killed

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<v Speaker 1>and several others were critically and seriously entered. Ethan Crumbly,

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen year old student, was later arrested in connection

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<v Speaker 1>with the shooting. The authority said he was charged on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday with one count of terrorism causing death and four

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<v Speaker 1>counts of first degree murder, which could lead to a

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<v Speaker 1>life stiff sentence if he's convicted. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so so many victims involved, so much trauma involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But the part that gets me even to the next

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<v Speaker 1>level is what his mom said to him in response, Leah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you yeah, I already know where you're going with this,

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<v Speaker 1>And she was saying, Law, I'm not mad at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to learn to not get caught like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't understand. I mean as a parent, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>can't grasp this. I one, I didn't know that it

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<v Speaker 1>was LAWL. I thought it was l O L. But

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<v Speaker 1>it also, um, it's not the same thing. No, she said, Law,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, shoot, is that what has spent

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<v Speaker 1>this whole time? I've been spelling it out. I am old,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a parent. But the fact that this terrible

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<v Speaker 1>thing happened and he did like created all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>like murder and that's the response from your parents. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course this is going to happen, Teddy. It's a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a parent. I just wanted to let that sink

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<v Speaker 1>in for a second, but also to play on words.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you everyone. I was disturbed that his parents bought

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<v Speaker 1>the semiotic semi automatic handgun as a Christmas gift. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually not surprised that she said that. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>she also when she heard about the the live shooter

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever active shooter, she texted him and said, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it or whatever the exact words were. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not Also like that means it was already on her

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<v Speaker 1>radar that he that that he might do that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then he does it, and that's how she reacts. But

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<v Speaker 1>also if he if she's responding that to what he

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<v Speaker 1>just did, what has she done? I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't speculate that, but like, if this is the

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<v Speaker 1>way that you're raising your kids, if this is the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you're saying, I'm worried to know you know

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of place you're even growing up. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is that you know connecting this to Brian Laundre,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit who also drew disturbing images and was obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with blood and and and in dark images. Right, this

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<v Speaker 1>boy was apparently um drawing scrawled images of a gun. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He there was a person who had been shot at

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<v Speaker 1>and he put a laughing emoji and the words blood

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere and the thoughts won't stop. Help me. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty clear to say, and I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>this in a funny way, but this is connected to

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness. Yeah, I mean, but it it makes you

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<v Speaker 1>really think about in the schools when you start to

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<v Speaker 1>see these red flags, what actions are being taken in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. What are they doing to help these kids

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<v Speaker 1>that are obviously being raised in a setting where you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting guns as presents. And apparently, on the morning of

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<v Speaker 1>November the shooting, the suspect's parents were called into the

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<v Speaker 1>high school after one of his teachers found the alarming

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<v Speaker 1>notes and drawings. So there was preemptive behavior that was

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<v Speaker 1>obviously showing that he was deranged, and he was he

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<v Speaker 1>he was with them in that meeting and they said

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<v Speaker 1>this has to be taken care of, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>got sent back to class, and I mean he planned

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<v Speaker 1>it well before the incident. I mean, I still think

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<v Speaker 1>the parents need to be charged. I think they will be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they will be. I think they are possibly

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<v Speaker 1>going to be charged for involuntary manslaughter. Wow, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they weren't. The charges were brought up and then

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<v Speaker 1>they disappeared for a while, not the charges, the parents,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the lawyer was like, oh, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn themselves in, but then they found them hiding in

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse, so clearly they weren't. But then they said

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<v Speaker 1>they caught him and brought him in and they're all

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<v Speaker 1>being held separately with no communication that the husband, the wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and the son are all being held in different areas.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so sad. It's sad that we are at

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<v Speaker 1>that place where you have to worry to send your

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<v Speaker 1>kids that are older to outdoor place or to school

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<v Speaker 1>or because guns are readily available to people who are

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<v Speaker 1>already suffering. Yeah, and also, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times people say guns don't kill people. People kill people,

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<v Speaker 1>but but that's no. That's the thing is though. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems though that he was already on a path to

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<v Speaker 1>hurting other people and hurting himself potentially to himself potentially sure,

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<v Speaker 1>And it just seems like this person should not be

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<v Speaker 1>around any type of weapon, whether it's a knife or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is available. It seems like this person was genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>out for blood and it's so disturbing. I mean, children

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have guns, Adults maybe we can't even get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't, we can't get into this right day. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should get into CNN. That seems like a person

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<v Speaker 1>easy to pick a fight with. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for us to go straight into CNN. CNN

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<v Speaker 1>fires Chris Cuomo. What are y'all thoughts on this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I missed the beginning of the pandemic where everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>calling Cuomo Zaddy, I loved him. I do I miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Chris Cuomo is super hot, would bang and look,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have any allegations against him for sexual assault?

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<v Speaker 1>He does now there's an allegation. Yeah, so no, I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought he was terminated for helping his brother will

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<v Speaker 1>possibly cover up this. That was important. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there was something sixteen years ago allegedly that he I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what the charges are, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say something incorrect. It's going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>be cut out of this episode, but there's some rumblings

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<v Speaker 1>of that going on. However, I did read that he

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<v Speaker 1>had apologized to the person the person had forgiven him,

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<v Speaker 1>that this was all cleared up sixteen years ago. M hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>So do we think this person is coming forward now

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<v Speaker 1>because he's in the spotlight around it. I don't it's

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<v Speaker 1>this is very I think this is what CNN must

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten wind of, and that's why we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>much information as slews and we can't really get the

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<v Speaker 1>full info. But you know, I just I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>also hard. I mean, and I know he got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of heat for helping his brother get a lawyer. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And then it draws the question, you know, like when

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<v Speaker 1>is helping your family member too much? In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I think obviously the loundry is doing what they allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>did with Brian, that to me, that's crossing the boundary.

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<v Speaker 1>But a brother helping somebody secure a lawyer, to me, isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like he was helping him escape. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, it's you're damned if you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're damned if you don't. Now it's like whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>say you're going to be, you know, really getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of heat for. But it's this one's a hard

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<v Speaker 1>one for me to swallow. All he wants for Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>is the charges dropped. Speaking of dropping charges, we are sorry, Teddy,

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<v Speaker 1>just so much better when you do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I can't be the Segway girl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really that was nice. That was nice. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Alec Baldwin is trying to evade any sort of charges

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<v Speaker 1>or responsibility for what happened on his set of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Rust, where he allegedly did not shoot the gun

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<v Speaker 1>that killed the DP, and so Alec is saying he

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<v Speaker 1>did not shoot the gun that killed his DP and

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<v Speaker 1>wounded the director. He's saying that he would never point

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<v Speaker 1>a gun at someone or intentionally try to shoot someone.

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<v Speaker 1>It would never actually fire the weapon. And he's also

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<v Speaker 1>saying it was never brought to his attention that there

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<v Speaker 1>was unrest from the crew and that anyone else thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was unsafe and that they had been cutting corners.

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<v Speaker 1>But earlier that day, I think over six people left

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<v Speaker 1>the set because they thought it was unsafe. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing I can see from a high profile actor,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, producer, maybe they were hiding what was really

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<v Speaker 1>going on on set from him as to not upset him,

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<v Speaker 1>which happens in business sometimes you you protect it from

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<v Speaker 1>the boss so that the boss doesn't get upset that

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<v Speaker 1>things aren't running well. So I mean, you can suspend

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<v Speaker 1>your belief that that could be the case. They also

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<v Speaker 1>as a specialist that watched him do his interview and

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<v Speaker 1>believes him to be telling the truth by his hand

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<v Speaker 1>movements and those types of things. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a terrible tragedy. I want to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Alec had absolutely no idea. I can't what there would

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<v Speaker 1>be no reason for him to do such a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He never alluded to wanting to do it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I it's his movie. It's supposed to be something that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to promote, and that to turn into this

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 1>can't be something that anybody would ever want. Well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>calling to find out who put a bullet in the gun,

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<v Speaker 1>because again this is about gun violence, although this is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously accidental not intentional, And you know they're saying there

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>are two ways to fire a gun. You either pull

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger or pulled the hammer back and drop it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know. It's so it's so so

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<v Speaker 1>so upsetting, and obviously, obviously I think everyone can agree

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Alec did not intentionally mean to harm anyone. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's something we can all agree on. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a Yeah, it's a horrible situation, and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>only have time for one more recap before we bring

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<v Speaker 1>on our our guest. All right, So Jesse is testifying

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<v Speaker 1>he and the accuser shared drug fueled nights at a

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<v Speaker 1>gay bath house. And look, I think the moral of

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the story is that this is obviously a setup, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have the two brothers that were hired by Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>to fake the crime, and they both thought that this

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<v Speaker 1>would amplify their careers. And obviously neither of them were

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<v Speaker 1>Trump supporters. They were carrying out fake hate crimes pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to be Trump supporters, saying, you know, horrible racial and

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>homophobic slers. So these two brothers took testimony on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>and Thursday in the criminal trial on charges that he

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<v Speaker 1>staged the attack and falsely reported to the police, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the brothers was saying that Jesse had a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy idea of having two MAGA supporters attack him because

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to put it on his social media. The

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<v Speaker 1>part that I just still resonates with me is when

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<v Speaker 1>the cops arrived and he still had the news around

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<v Speaker 1>his neck. Well, apparently he also wanted them to pour

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>gasoline on him, but he was they were so uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with doing that, and they ended up changing it to

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>bleach because the brothers were uncomfortable using gasolene. I think too, Yeah,

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>it's a no for me. And so you know, I

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>think that they are trying to the defenses is requesting

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>a mistrial, of course, and there have been exchanges between

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the judge and the defense that have escalated and become

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>stupe emotional, and you know, at one point sobbing and

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>pacing around his table. This like the defense is upset

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>with the judge. And I think that there's a lot

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>of emotion coming into play. So I'm excited to see

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>when they come back on Monday to hear closing arguments

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and begin deliberating what will actually happen. Me too, which

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess we can get into next week because we've

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>got to take a little break because we've got Justin

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in the waiting room. I'm so excited for Justin. Me too,

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Me too, all right, So you guys in sick all right.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>So I have been obsessed with the Jeffrey Epstein case,

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>all of this from the beginning, and I we just

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>let's start, which is Justin. What got you so interested

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in this case? In this trial? I think, just like

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>all of us we've kind of been watching it for

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a while, and then there was this period where it

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>went quiet and then all of a sudden it's coming back.

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like, get lost, um, not excitement, because

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>excitement is the wrong word to use about this, Like

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't be excited about this, but it lost like steam,

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like people weren't talking about it as much. And now

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like the actual time when um, she's going in

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and justice could be served and like people are going

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to be named and what whatnot, and all of a sudden,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I honestly I felt like it's just gone quiet in

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media, you know. So I was just very

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>casually and Teddy. We follow each other on Instagram and

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I love to talk to people, like I really enjoy

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>social media because I like to connect and engage. And

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I've always had a rule for myself, like I'll never

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about things that are divisive or super political. I'll

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>never throw my beliefs at people because I don't really

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>know who all is following me, so I don't want

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to offend people whatever. So when I um this Gillian

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>trial came back up, I was like, I want to

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about this because no one's talking about what's going on,

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't even thinking about it being a divisive issue,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden it turned into this left

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>right fight, and I was like, what the heck is

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>going on here? And I didn't realize that at some

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>point people lumped trild child such sex trafficking in with

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the extreme right and they started saying it's a conspiracy

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>thing to talk about sex traffick and I was like,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>holy sh it, this is a problem then, you know.

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And then that's when I really start paying attention to it. Yeah.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when I started posting just little things

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>about it today, just saying like I'm bringing justin on

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about this, people started messaging me and saying, hey, listen,

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>this is all over mainstream news. What are you talking

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>about your And it's something that shows shocking to me,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>because like, really, I've seen us talk about it. I

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>saw House and have It talk about it. I see

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Perez Hilton talk about it. But it's it's as you

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>posted on your stories today. It's not on the Wall

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, it's not on where New York Times, Washington Post,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times. And here's the thing. When people say,

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>what are you saying it's all over. You can Google

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>anything and find anything. You can also go into the

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>dark weab and find really crazy stuff. So you can

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>find anything when you Google, if you go to CNN,

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>if you go to the Washington Post, if you go

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to the New York Times, and you just start to

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>scroll the page, it's not in the top headlines. Now,

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not some weird conspiracy there. You literally go do it,

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just stroll through. It's not in the top So it's

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely being hidden a little bit. So my thing is like,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>why are people so quick to like fight back and

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, no, it's absolutely there, it's not you know,

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I watched the View every single day. The show on

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Keep You never gets some other you can't watch that garbage.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just women with one view fighting with each other

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time or whatever. And I'm like, no, I

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like to watch CNN, I like to watch Fox, I

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>like to watch the News. I want to see all

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>perspectives because I really want to take it all in.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And um, they don't mention it ever on the View.

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>They never talked about something like what is going on?

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.719
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how deep you guys want to go,

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>but I do think there's something to this case is

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>being protected. It just is it's being kept really quiet.

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>If they wanted us to know about this, and they

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>thought that they could get us all to fight about this,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it would be everywhere. Think about every massive trial that's

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>been out in the past few years. It's blasted in

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>our face trial, it's everywhere. Because this is a federal case,

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>we can't have any live streaming footage of it. That's

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>exact they're saying. But any other case that's ever been

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>like this before where you couldn't have cameras inside, it

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>would be even more packed outside the courthouse. So outside

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the courthouse, you shouldn't be able to get close to

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the court to the courthouse. So there's this woman on

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Instagram house in habit and she actually flew herself to

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>New York because she wanted to be there, and she's

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>been showing videos every morning where there is no one

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in front. And what that tells me is every major

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>news source isn't sending their journalists, are sending their reporters

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>there um to cover this, And what the problem with

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that is, Because then people on Instagram will say to me,

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>justin what's the problem, Why do you want it to

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>be mayhem outside of the court, and I'm like, not

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>even mayhem, just people actually being there reporting in real time.

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>But what it says to everyone when they see it

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>empty in front of the courthouse is that it's like, oh,

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>we don't really care about this case or it's being

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>taken care of. It's not. This woman house in Habit

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>is saying. What she's hearing in the courts right now

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is that they're literally discounting these women, the victims voices.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to put them down because what they want

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to do is they want to silent this really quick.

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.239
<v Speaker 1>They don't want the names to come out, you know.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it gets deep to like that's why they

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want the reporters there, because they don't want anyone

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>writing in real time what's happening, because then they're going

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to have to start sharing the truth. And that's why

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that's why people are avoiding it is because it's actually

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>both sides of everything, so you can't This isn't one

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of those things they can just angle and say this

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>is what these people did. Once you start talking about it,

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>whoever you're also on the side with that name is

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>coming up too. So everyone's just like forget about But

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to me, regardless of what your side is, there were

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so there was a ring, there was a pyramid of

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>abused girls. Right, So it doesn't matter which side you're on.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>This is the thing that drives me crazy too, just

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>as like an empathetic like I like to like get

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>along with everyone, like fun, like to whatever. This is

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a yeah in the in the past like two years

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that we've all had, right, we've just been dragged through it. Right,

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>this would actually be of all the cases, none of

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>us want to celebrate anything like this, but this would

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>be the one case where we could all come together

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and be like, we want to watch this trial and

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we want justice. We want names to come up, we

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>want people to go to jail, we want to see

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>justice for these girls, the victims. So why is the

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>one case that could bring us together just being completely silenced?

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>And that goes back to like the media just works

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>really well when we're all fighting with each other. They

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>want to us all screening at each other all the

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>time to be to buy it. This isn't a left

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>or right issue. I was gonna say, So, why do

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you think that the networks are so afraid to send

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>reporters because I honestly believe and I don't know. I mean, frak,

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, I'm not like Sutton on the House.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my lawyer before I do things.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>But I don't you know anything I want to I

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>want to say. I want to say really quick early

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in us talking like I'm not an expert in this.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I freaking have done a hair color for my whole life,

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like I have my own hair colored brand. I'm not

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a journalist. I didn't even go to college. I'm talking

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like a real person, just conversation. I also don't care

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>if somebody explains to me like, oh, you're actually wrong

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>with this, and then I would keep talking about that,

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>going a different direction. What ever. So I'm not trying

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to act like I'm an expert on this. But the

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>funny thing to me was, so about a two years

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>ago I moved to Nashville. My whole career in l

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>A was doing celebrity hair mostly That's what I was

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>known for, doing, really big celebrity names and then tons

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of my favorites, which are reality stars. Um. But so

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I've always been in this Hollywood real celebrity world. So

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.240
<v Speaker 1>about a year ago, my cousin Tim Ballard has a rescue,

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>an organization called Our Rescue and it's all about sex trafficking.

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>And about a year ago I gave him a shout

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>out like, hey, you guys follow my cousin Kim and

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>his organization, and all of a sudden, all these dm

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>started coming and say thank you so much for being

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>someone from Hollywood who's talking about sex trafficking. And I'm like,

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't I talk about sex trafficking? And then I

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>started talking to people and they're like, no, celebrities will

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about um sex trafficking, And all of a sudden,

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like what the hell is going on? To cut to somewhere.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Somebody made it a thing if you talk about sex trafficking,

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you're crazy conservatives exactly. So my thing is is like

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that is to check someone. Why is this conversation being

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>so shut down because there's people that don't want it

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to get out. I mean, meanwhile, this trial started and

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 1>even C suite execs have all stepped down from their

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>positions from various networks jobs. So it lets you know

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people in positions of power are terrified,

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>which kind of lends itself to the next question is

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like Gaalaine is being blamed for Epstein's

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>actions and how involved do you think she really was

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>in all of this? Um, I, you know, it's it's

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.760
<v Speaker 1>a careful It's something that you have to be careful

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>with because you don't want to say, like, yeah, she

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 1>should get all of it. But she's the one who's

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>alive right now, she's the one in trial. But now

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>what I'm hearing, she was just as involved as he was.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 1>She was the one that was going out and finding

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 1>these girls, she was grooming them, she was bringing it back.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>She was in the room when the sex abuse happened.

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, absolutely she should be treated as part

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of this. She she's the only one left there. But

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the real thing that she has, she has the names.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>She has the ability to name off who which that island,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>who actually messed around with kids. They're saying that that

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>island was full of cameras everywhere. I really believe in

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>this is just my opinion or what I think. I

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>think they have videos and photos of tons of high

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>powered people engaging in this that they wanted to use

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>as blackmail, and that's what everyone is so afraid that

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it will get out. So it's like, let's hush Galaine,

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>let's say that we're gonna give her the highest sentence possible.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.760
<v Speaker 1>But really what they're gonna do is just hide her away,

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>keep all of that a big secret. That's fucking scary. No,

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really scary. Especially I watched the documentary on

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>her that was on Hulu, and it really breaks down

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 1>how involved she allegedly is and how they The part

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that really sickens me is like they preyed on the week,

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they preyed on girls that were abused before, and then

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>when those girls would be to their breaking point, way

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that they would keep the girls allegedly was that they

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>would then still pay them to bring on more girls.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So now they're adding all of this hate because now

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they've had brought in forty to fifty of their friends

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>or people they know or they go to school with,

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and now they've done the same thing to them. Is

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>that or there's little sister or whatever it may be.

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So the chain of abuse is so long, and I

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of these women are saying that not

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>only was she in the room, but a lot of

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the time she was allegedly touching them as well, and

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>becoming their friend and becoming someone that they looked up to.

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And I just think that regardless, And and then people

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>will also say because of her father she was you know,

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>this is why she is the way that she is

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to me, regardless, she seems like a very smart woman

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and very calculated. Like she didn't meet Epstein by accident,

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>she didn't get linked into him by accident. She knew

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>what she was doing. She no longer had money, and

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>so I don't I don't have empathy for her in

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>this case millions of dollars. Well, she's upset right now

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>that Epstein's people aren't paying her lawyer. Yeah, she is.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting that you talked about her dad, because

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>her dad was also a very similar type of person

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>to Jeffrey Epstein. They were feared um in intense terrifying

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>people who were the heads of their organizations. And she

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:48.439
<v Speaker 1>always tried to please her father. She was the little

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>list of nine siblings. And when her father died and

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>his yacht was called Lady Gallaine, so you know, he

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>loved her the most. It's so creepy, but I don't

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 1>think you can really love if you're a narcissist. Yeah, yes,

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever that word is. Yeah, what he wanted he I

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know. He wanted him to be pleased the most

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>by her. I don't know. It's so gross. When he died,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>allegedly she was seen shredding documents of his so as

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you do when someone close to you, guys, right, exactly. Um. Yeah,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Teddy, I've got a lot of documents

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>in a drawer just in case anything. How I'm not,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I don't have your back there, I will

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that case will be covered. If I'm sorry, I'm out.

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>But the mold you whatever, Teddy, We're gonna have to

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>have a talk after this. But I think you know,

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>she's not new to crime, but and adjust to play

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>devil's advocate. Do you guys think that she was conditioned

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to this because of the way that she was grown,

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the way she was raised. It was it was made

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>normal to her. I think yeah, absolutely. The relationship with

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>her father, that was the thing. You know, people are like, oh,

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>why is that really? Then it's absolutely relevant, like where

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>did she learn this kind of behavior that you just

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you serve to a man, you know, her father the

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>whole time. Once her father passed away. She absolutely was

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>looking for a certain sort of lifestyle. They say that

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>what Epstein got from Geelame was that she had all

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>these connections with with powerful people. He was actually like

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>an anu, He liked to hide out, he didn't want

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to be super super social. She would go out and

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>do all of that networking for them. So they like

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>they found this thing. They were part they were partners

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and this whole huge crime um and so yeah, that's

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>why she is getting what she's getting, and we all

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>should see it and we should hear anything. The thing

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy too, is like if there is this cyber

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>people like, oh, this is a conspiracy and you're going

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.479
<v Speaker 1>down the rabbit hole. If you really believe that, Okay,

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I get it, But then why wouldn't you want it

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to be uncovered even more than let's get to the

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>bottom of it, and let's prove that people are are

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>being crazy when they're asking for more questions. Why is

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it keep being more hidden and that's just gonna keep

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>us all being like crazy and all this controversy going

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>on and fighting. Then answer the question, put it all

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>out there for all of us to see. Explain to

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>us how people aren't involved. I mean, because for me,

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it's about facts. That's why I it's not political at all.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even well versed politically, but i want to

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>know the facts. And when I see that the chain

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of abuse is now getting escalated to the courtroom because

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>these girls the same way that Epstein and Glene allegedly

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>seek them out to abuse them, is what the lawyers

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>are now doing to them by bringing up the past trauma,

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.240
<v Speaker 1>by bringing up that they may have had an abortion,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>by bringing up, you know, history of drug use. If

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>you're being abused, most likely you are going to medicate

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly these women were abused. Of course, some of them

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>are going to turn to drugs later. They're not going

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to have like a healthy, normal lifestyle after they've been

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 1>abused as a teenager. So pointing that stuff out doesn't

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me anything. Of course, these girls are damaged. No

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>one has taken care of him, no one's listened to him.

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>And now you're in a court and you're gonna tear

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>him down. Say, oh, you were a cocaine user, you

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>che ne did on your first husband. Yeah, it's not shocking.

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't tell us anything. Or you want you said

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>nice things to Epstein, like you thanked him for Like, yes,

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you're They were being manipulated, they were being sent to colleges,

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they were being sent to like paid for. So people

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>get confused, They get confused between love and money. But

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>then there's the other side of abuse, Like most of

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>these women said they had to compartmentalize them in two

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>different spaces because they were taken on trips they never

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>would have done. They were doing things they like there

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>were times where they felt like a family. That's actually

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what grooming is exactly exactly. And the crazy thing about

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this conversation right here, like what we're having right now,

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it's sad that we even have to have this kind

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of conversation because they're not it's not out there. It's

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>not in the media where all these questions can be

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 1>answered because it's so hidden. So it's like all these

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>conspiracies are going to keep going on. Like unfortunately with

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 1>social media, this stuff doesn't just go away. It's gonna

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>be talked about and people are gonna get angry because

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>they want to hear more. So I don't understand how

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>they think they can hide this. I think they're fit

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>figuring out. It's like, holy sh it, like this could

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>get really loud, like it's on the brink, like people

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>are starting to poke into it and stuff. But most

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to talk about kids being abused either.

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not something you talk about at the dinner with

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>your whole family. You don't go to work and talk

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to You kind of have to feel people out, like

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>are you willing to talk about this topic? You know?

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>And that scares me. It's just it'll go as long

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 1>as it's as long as it's happening. It needs I

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, it needs to be talked about more.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise it's just going to be continued to be swept

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>under the rug. Yeah. I also think this is why

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>they're denying her bail requests, even though she's asking for

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight point five million bail, because they know that

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>she's a flight risk and that she'll probably jump ship

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and hide because there are so many secrets and if

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>they keep digging, they're going to get there, and there

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>are so many people that want to keep these secrets hidden.

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Can we also discuss the fact that in between when

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Epstein was arrested and dyeing all these things, she was

0:44:55.400 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>out there doing ted talks. I'm sorry like we already knew,

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>we already knew, and yet you're out doing TED talks

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>empowering women starting these new companies. Like she ends up

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>with another wealthy man that ends up leaving his wife

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>for her, Like there is a pattern here I don't understand.

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a narcissist right there, not taking any

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>accountability at all. Like this woman, if she gets off

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like she does, she's not going to learn a lesson.

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not like all of a sudden she's gonna be

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a better person, you know, But at this point, beyond

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>just trying to put her in jail, she should absolutely

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>put in jail for the maximum amount of time, but

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>beyond that, like we need to know who else was involved.

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Also just for quieting down the rumors. I'm so sick

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.439
<v Speaker 1>of going on the Internet and having people write things

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 1>or right to me the d M s about like

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you know that all of Hollywood is involved in this,

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And because people know that I've been connected to celebrities

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>when I worked in l A, people always say like,

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>justin you know that Hollywood is disgusting. The I'm like,

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>no one in Hollywood is eating babies. The general doesn't

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.240
<v Speaker 1>have like ellenor Jenners, so that have kids in her basement.

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean when I moved, I'll be honest, when I

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>moved to the South was the first time I started

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>hearing celebrity rumors, like people like, oh wait, you're connected

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to Hollywood? Have you heard the blablah? I'm like, are

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys out of your damn mind? Like yours? Like

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Christian is eating babies? And yeah, I mean, yeah, Hollywood

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>is discussing, just not for that reason. They have a

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>whole other slow of reasons. But like that's why I

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.399
<v Speaker 1>guess why I can't wrap my head around is why

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 1>do they have to be the same thing. Why can't

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it just be here's the information, here's what's going on, who,

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.879
<v Speaker 1>here's who's involved in this case, and then if it's shown,

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we can start to educate our families and how to

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>protect themselves. Exactly. I just want to really quickly give

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a rundown of the charges relating to the allegations that

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>she's had over the past ten year period between two

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand four. So, the charges so far are conspiracy to

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>entice miners to travel to engage in a legal sex act,

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>enticement of a minor to travel, to engage in a

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>legal sex acts, conspiracy to transport miners with intent to

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 1>engage in criminal sexual activity, transporting a minor with the

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 1>intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, sex trafficking, conspiracy

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>sex trafficking of a minor, and she's also charged with

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>two counts of perjury. So those are a lot of

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>allegations to get out of. I don't I think if

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 1>she gets off on one, she's not getting off on

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>all of these. I don't think she's getting off. But

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I think the point is why don't we Why aren't

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>we hearing the updates because of I mean, even when

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you watch Prince Andrew stumble through his interview about how

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>he was never in the picture, he never even thinks

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>he went upstairs, Like it's unbelievable, Like, why are we

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about it? And why when we are talking about it?

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we need to get into the

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>world of being shadow banded. Why when you're talking about it,

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, of the algorithms chained on your

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and people can't see your story. Well, if that

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't tell you something right there, it's like, come on,

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 1>like there is absolutely something going on. We know that

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>this is being trying to be hidden. The thing that's

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>funny about Prince Andrew is it's like the fact that

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>he even thinks that, like, because of his position, he

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>can just say that, oh, I wasn't there. It's like, dude,

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>we see the pictures, like you, we're looking at the photo.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>We see the pictures, and we've seen the interview from

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the girl. Yeah. And and Galine is trying to deflect

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>any of the blame on her and saying that if

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Epstein was still alive, no one would care about her.

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>They I still care about her. I'm actually I love

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>that she mad at her because she should be protecting

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>these girls. Yea, exactly, yes. And she was acting like

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a fake sister or mother and showering them in gifts

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:53.240
<v Speaker 1>and wading outside schoolyard gates to groom girls and poach

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>them and find them. And she was saying, you know

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>how he likes them skinny and pretty and young. Yeah,

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm is bad because I would have never been chosen.

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean. The other thing is Glen says that Jeffrey

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>needed to have sex three times a day and it

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was hard for her to keep up. Yeah, It's like, yeah,

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't how else are you supposed to be productive? Um,

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't try having some kids. Kidding, I'm so single,

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm so single. But you can schedule the three times

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.839
<v Speaker 1>a week with me between this hour and this hour.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>But but also, you know, I feel bad for the

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 1>women and the pseudonyms that they're using. Obviously, for one

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like Kate who was trained to massage his feet, so

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Gleyne would massage his feet, then she would massage his feet,

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and then he would call her in to have a

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>different type of massage, and Glen would give her all

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>these compliments about saying, oh, I'm so glad you're here.

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:53.840
<v Speaker 1>You did such a good time last time that he

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to come back. And it just makes one

0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>of vomit in my mouth. I mean, this is so disgusting.

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>And anybody who has I mean, Teddy, you have kids,

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and anybody, I mean all of my best friends or girls,

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like all of us should be just like up in

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>arms about this. We should want this to be taken

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>care of. It needs to be blasted everywhere, like this

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is something that obviously needs to be taken care of

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.879
<v Speaker 1>beyond just Epstein. But he's the biggest case that we've

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>ever seen of this type of type of thing. You know,

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>So when people are saying like, um oh Epstein himself

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 1>today on social media, people were saying, oh, the reason

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>people aren't talking about because Epstein himself isn't that famous,

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Like some people don't care, Like what are you talking about?

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Like this is this, this case should be everywhere. We

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>should all absolutely care, we should all want this to

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 1>be taken care of. Um. I just won't understand these

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>people wanted to fight about it online other than just

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>coming together, because I think that's what's happening right now.

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why. You know, I'm glad we're having

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. But the divide people want. People are so

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>lost right now that they want to do anything to

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>give them that rise and feeling. So fighting with each

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>other is the only way they're getting that like feeling.

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That That's why it's like how some people are in

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>bad relationships because they ultimately like that rush of getting

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in that fight and then making up and having makeup

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>sex or whatever it is. And then imagine when you

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>finally get into a good relationship because I was in

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the really messy with a wonderful one, but how good

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>it is on the other side. So the thing is,

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you guys, imagine how great it's gonna be.

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Like the next chapter of all of our lives after

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the past two years we just had, is should be

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>to come together to bond somehow as Americans. And that's

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.320
<v Speaker 1>not me being like kumbaya and trying to be sweet.

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, aren't we sick of fighting about everything? And

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>now we're even fighting about sex trafficking victims of like

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>sexual abuse children were fighting about that. To be honest,

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually surprised there are no protests outside the trial.

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>You think that after the year we've had with everyone

0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>protesting and being the streets, that that there you and

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to walk towards the trial. But that's the problem. That's

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the problem with the media not being involved too, is

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>that the media wanted there to be riots, and they

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted us to They would set that up, you know.

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, there should absolutely people out front who

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>are demanding justice, like to show that this is a

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:18.480
<v Speaker 1>massive case that we all care about, but they're not

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>out there because do you know how many people even

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 1>write to me on Instagram who are like, um, what

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>trial are you even talking about? What are you talking

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 1>about and I'm like the fact that you don't even know. Well,

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we have to remember that this happened already once the

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:34.720
<v Speaker 1>first time in Florida. Remember when everything just got pushed

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 1>aside at the first time he was arrested. Yeah, that's

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a bigger red flag than my ex boyfriend. I can't

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think, you know. In closing, because I know

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 1>we're running out of time, justin what do you recommend

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that people do right now to get educated on this

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for facts, it's not about political but facts. And then

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 1>how do they spread the word so this becomes something

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that we're all talking about, not fighting about. You know,

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 1>It's funny. There's that account that we keep talking about.

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Her name is house Inhabit. Her name is Jessica, and

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I've actually been following her for like the past year

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half on my fake account. So I've been

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>watching all of her stories because before I before I

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 1>shout something, because even though I act like a total

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>idiot on Instagram, like I am thoughtful. I like I

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>was saying earlier, I don't want to talk about politics,

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not even smart enough to go to debate

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>with people in politics. So I'm really careful about what

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I put out there. But I was following for a

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>year and I was like, wow, this woman is being very,

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 1>very open both She's not making it about a left

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 1>or right issue. She really breaks everything down and lets

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>people be like, here's the fact, you guys think what

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 1>you want. So I've been following her and she just

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 1>gets to be really fired up. So house Inhabit on

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Instagram is fabulous. And then beyond that, it's just, um,

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid to have this conversation or to be

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to it. Like I'm seeing that more some

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 1>people are starting to post about it on Instagram, but um,

0:53:58.200 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just while it's to me that they're not. I mean,

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>there are all the crazy hashtag people who fight for everything,

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 1>but then it's absolute silence with this. Every other issue

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that we've run into in the past few years has

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a hashtag and a movement. Everyone's screaming yes, like yeah,

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>this is just literally crickets. Like that's so weird to

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 1>be you know. It's like, I don't even want to

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 1>do the whole box thing and yelling at each other,

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:24.240
<v Speaker 1>pushing all that kind of stuff, but this has nothing.

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 1>No one's talking about it. So house in habit is great. Wait, Teddy,

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>what's the feel like? Are your friends in l A

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about it? You know? Not really? I mean I

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>think that. I mean, if if somebody brings it up,

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll have the conversation. But I think it's more like

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 1>we we've watched this movie and it's not really happening, right,

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:50.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, oh, when we all watched the documentary

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when it came out on Netflix, Filthy Wrench, everybody kind

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.359
<v Speaker 1>of talked about that, but it was like it was

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>not real life. And I think that's what's because it's

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>so terrible and it's so traumatic. I think people put

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it to the side because you don't want to believe

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it to be true. People are just assuming it will

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 1>get handled because it's so obvious that it all happened. Well,

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing to anyone, to anyone listening, like

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it will be handled in the sense that like she will,

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>she'll be found guilty if she has found guild, like

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>she'll be handled. But there's a whole bigger web that's

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 1>not being opened up. That's what's not going to be

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>handled unless people start demanding, like, who's in the Black Book?

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Talk about that? Where are the tapes that you guys have,

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the videos that you guys have, Like why aren't names

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>being said? They won't be they won't be said. There's

0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>way too much money behind it, so Galanne will be

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:46.879
<v Speaker 1>taken care of. But that's the problem. But I think

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that that's you know, it's not that this is a

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.879
<v Speaker 1>true comparison, but even what happened with Free Brittany, it

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>took people to repeatedly talk about it, open up the

0:55:56.400 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>conversation of conservativeship for people to actually make can you

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>change and go to court and actually want to know her?

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You want to know? It's funny and like, I have

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to share this in case some people end up on

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 1>this podcast who have listened to be talked before I

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 1>got into hot water about a year and a half ago,

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>because when the free Britney stuff was happening, I was

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I don't know, I think Britney spine.

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that Britney wants help, She'll ask and I'll

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>be really honest. There were a lot of people close

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to Brittany who kind of got in my ear about

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half ago. It was like Britney spine,

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, and they grooming sounds so weird, but kind

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of taught me to be like, no Brittney spine because

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 1>before that I was doing hashtag free Brittany or whatever,

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and these people came in there like she's fine or whatever,

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:37.919
<v Speaker 1>and so I was kind of like, she's fine whatever.

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, when all this opened up,

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, holy sh it, like I got silence

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I was. I started saying things like she's fine, it's

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be taking care of whatever. So now looking back

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:48.879
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, there are a lot of things

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that are gonna happen now and moving forward that we

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.959
<v Speaker 1>really do have to pay attention to and get loud about,

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:57.320
<v Speaker 1>asked more questions. So I learned it from Brittany. Everything

0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:59.800
<v Speaker 1>goes back to Brittany for me, I mean everything, everything

0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so much

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 1>for joining us justin Please if there's ever a case

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about, we talk about them all.

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Please come on again. We are such a pleasure. And

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I love following you because I learned from you. I

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 1>hear different conversations. I also love that if you say

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>something and you change your mind, you will always end

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>up You'll say you're like, listen, you prove me wrong

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>or this happened right. I love that because that's growth,

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys, And that's the only way that we started

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to use that word in the sentence. What what I

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:36.439
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what's that? Oh? Growth? Yeah, I mean,

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but that's growth, and it's the only way that we

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>all are out actually going to do it. And so

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for speaking out justin for coming on

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and talking with us, because it's the only way, it's

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the only way out of all of this. I appreciate

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that so much. I really appreciate you pointing that out,

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Teddy like a lot, because I do think that that's

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 1>what's missing right now is everyone's yelling their stuff, but

0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to talk and also take things back and say, wow,

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 1>now I'm seeing it this way, and I think that's

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>what we're all missing as humans. There needs to be

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot more of that, just conversations back and forth. Yeah,

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to hate each other afterwards, you can

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 1>just have a conversation. But yeah, we'll do the best

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 1>that we can. Um, guys, hope we need to come

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 1>up with a hashtag for this. That seems to be

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the only reason that people get excited about something. Let's

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>see what our responses from this, and then maybe we'll

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.439
<v Speaker 1>have to all collectively come together and we get we'll

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>create a hashtag and do all that. We have homework,

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, everybody got to three? Go? All right? Thank

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you guys, Thank you Justin to me, I mean, I'm

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:48.520
<v Speaker 1>all about hashtag. Galaine maxed out. I I guys, I

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>just I can't believe all this, Leah, thank you so

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>much for informing us on so many terrible news updates,

0:58:55.880 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 1>so many things. Thank you so much, Teddy, really do

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 1>our call in number just the way that only you

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 1>can do. Yeah, of course always, and of course thank

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you Justin for coming on and being our celebrity social

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>sleuth of the week. And as always, guys, feel free

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:15.920
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