1 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Hello, social sleuths, Internet detectives, crime heads, Welcome back to 2 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Real Time Crime. I'm one of your hosts, Leo Lamar, 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: and I have with me my wonderful co host. I'm 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna try not to pause this Timelly cow and We've 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: got Sometimes Dmitri with us. Today we're gonna be discussing 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: the new crime wave of in l A. We'll be 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: revisiting Jesse Smallot, Elizabeth Holmes and getting down to business 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: discussing the case no one seems to want to touch 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Glaine Maxwell with our first ever social sleuth slash celebrity detective, 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Justin Anderson. So excited to have him on because he 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: is amped up on his Instagram right now. So it's 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the perfect guest. I'm super stoked because it appears that 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: so media is the only place that people are talking 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: about Galaine Maxwell because I have not seen it in 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: the news. Have has anyone else? I haven't seen it 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: in the news. Is why we can, Colonel Yeah, which 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: is why we can cover the hot topics first. Today 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: we're changing it up because we gotta wait for Justin 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: to cover that because he's going to give us every 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: little detailed plus you know, and more and more. Um, 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: do you want to go like run through the hot 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: topics and then you know for me? And sometimes Dmitri 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: will comment, I just wanted to first check in with everyone. 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm in Florida, the great state of Florida. I did 25 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: make a Brian laundry joke in Boca at a comedy festival. 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Didn't go over well. The good people of Florida stand 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: by their own. Um, what was the joke? It doesn't 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: need to be repeated. Well, if you can't repeat it here, 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: maybe means it shouldn't have Well, well, it was. It 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: was in the middle of a crowd work interaction. Essentially, 31 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: a man who has a wife asked me out during 32 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: my set. It was a whole thing. I feel like 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: we're uncovering a crime right here and now, like now 34 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: I need to know everything about that. I will be 35 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: happy to bump a hot topic for this one. This 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: is hotter than anything here. Wait, I'm going to be honest. 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: A guy that I like that I met this week 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: in Miami's calling me right now. I'm not going to answer. 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Should answer life? All? I answer understood. We'll do that 40 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: thing where we kind of like vet him for you. 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: Should I do it right now, you guys, yes or no, 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: You gotta make your choice. You're gonna have to brush 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: them off the phone though, so then it'll be awkward. 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: So just wait. Well, well, you don't want to seem 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: like a big deal like, oh, I'm doing my podcast, 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my podcast, blah blah blah. It might 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: be too much, especially when we have x U c 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: l A star Kade McNown wife busted for grand theft. 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: To go over, Well, Teddy is really good it at 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: the segways and you're right. She allegedly lifted some handbags 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: and jewelry from her boss. So former U c l 52 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: A and NFL quarterback Kate mcnown's wife, she's in super 53 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: hot water after cops say she hatched and carried out 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: a plan to steal hundreds of thousands of dollars and 55 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: designer goods from philanthropists Sydney Holland. So Christina McNown is 56 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: in a bad way at the moment. She lifted Holland's purses, clothing, jewelry. 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: After a lengthy investigation, this has all been revealed, and 58 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: sources connected to the investigation tell us that McNown has 59 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: been a trusted assistant and stylist for Holland for the 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: last twelve years and had easy access to her personal belongings. 61 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: And she even saw some of the stolen items pop 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: up on sale online. But does she know she's in 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a bad way, because my understanding is that she's going 64 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: about businesses. These are just posting happy things on on 65 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: her social media and whatnot. Well, she's got four accounts 66 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: of felony grand theft and is set to be rained 67 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: in February, so I'm pretty sure she knows things aren't 68 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: all hunky dory. I've never said hunky dory before. And 69 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: is it because did you watch The Real Housewives or something? 70 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: That is you gna say hunky Dorry? No, that is 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton said hunky Dorry. And and you know somebody 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: said hunky dorry and Kathy Hilton didn't know what it meant. 73 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: And now it's become this meme all these things. But guys, 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: I know Sidney Holland, you do, Yes, I was just 75 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: looking at our rundown and that's why my mouth was 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: a gap because I know her. Is I mean, isn't 77 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: that is it a copy? I'm just saying you got 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: on her for hunky dor and you're like, my mouth 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: was a gate well using fun words today to metri 80 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: okay and try taking the s a t all right. 81 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean we can't help that. I elevated myself to 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: the eleventh grade and then barely made it through twelve. 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, how do you think you're going to 84 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: get away with this? No? I just I also heard 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: that she noticed little things missing here and there throughout 86 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: the years. That's how you think you're gonna get away 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: with it a little by little, but didn't but didn't 88 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: really think to connect the dots until bom bom boom 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: one day. Now, can I remind you this is not 90 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: as big but Cade McNown is the one that had 91 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: a little scandal of his own when he was at 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: U C. L A. And they were the football team 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: was parking in handicapped spots because they thought there were 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: above everything else. Um, not that it's the same thing, 95 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: but I feel like maybe in that family, there's a 96 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: little we'll just do what we want. Maybe they have 97 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of entitlement issues allegedly were their grades handicapped? 98 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: That that goes straight to the lawyers. Um, Because yeah, 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be worried about here in Los Angeles. 100 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: You're lucky to be at home with your fam right 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: now in Florida. In Florida, well maybe you're not that lucky. 102 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: But I heard there's an alligator in the swamp and 103 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to interview it to see if it's the 104 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: one that got Brian. I don't think it's him. I 105 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: didn't see his teeth in there. But there's been a 106 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: violent l a crime wave going on. M hm. So 107 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: we've heard through the media and seen in socials how 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: the crime wave is taking over Los Angeles. People are 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: getting held at gunpoint on Melrose in the middle of 110 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: the day while they're outside shopping or having dinner. Most recently, 111 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: a career criminal was arrested in a fatal shooting of 112 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: philanthropist Jacqueline Avant at the Lavish brev Bebara heard home, 113 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: what's happening to me? Lavish? Lavish, lawish? And I also 114 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: hit my head. So it's are we going to get 115 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: through this? Not with that attitude, okay? Lavish Beverly Hills 116 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: home she shared with her husband, Clarence, who's a ninety 117 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: year old music producer inducted into the Rock and Roll 118 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: Hall of Rock and roll is there's something am I not? Okay, 119 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to work on this. I might have 120 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: to check over the reading. This is a very serious 121 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: crime and I'm not doing it justice. And it's so 122 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: upsetting because Jacqueline was so beloved and everyone is blaming 123 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: the new laws that were put in place by District 124 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Attorney Gusson. Left wing lawmakers and activists pushed a litanyum 125 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: progressive reforms that helped violent criminals spend less time behind bars, 126 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: and some say that justice is not only fleeting, but 127 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: it's twisted. The l a p D Is quoted saying 128 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: it's a ship show over here. So you know, if 129 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: the l a p d Is saying it, it's probably true. 130 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: He says, bad guys are released quicker than we finished 131 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: the paperwork. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. 132 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: That's just the tip. I mean, there's a tyson on 133 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: the way. I was scared you were going different guys. 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Come on, I was like, this is a family show. Wait, 135 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: it's not. We're talking. We're thinking that could have happened. Well, 136 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think everybody gets like there's an 137 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: overall feeling in the country. I think starting from Kyle 138 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Right now, it's not where people think no one's really 139 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: being held accountable for anything. So I feel like crime 140 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: is going up because if no one is being held accountable, 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: then why not just do it broad daylight? On Melrose. 142 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: People following people up to their doors, like when they're 143 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: out walking with their kids and stuff. It's insane. What 144 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: about how they're going into homes. I just read about 145 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: the arm robbers who came into somebody's house where they 146 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: were having a party and stole all their watches, their handbags, Like, 147 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what is happening? I also sell the video 148 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: did you guys see it of the woman going into 149 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: her house and with her baby and a stroller and 150 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: the guys coming in after her and taking her bag, 151 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: and like she's like having to grab her baby and 152 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: like protect it. Just it needs to stop. So the 153 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: gates open to her house, she walks in with her baby. 154 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: Then these two guys walk in because the gates are 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: still closing, you know, gates take a second to close. 156 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: They come in. They literally just take her backpack off 157 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: of her. She complies, and then it almost looks Teddy 158 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: stop me if I'm wrong, but it almost looks like 159 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: they're going for the baby, and she si. I was 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: hoping it was that they were taking like her watch 161 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: off or something. It did look like that, but I 162 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: was hoping that's what that was, because then he took 163 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: something and then turned. But also the comments of the 164 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: video or like to badge and have a gun. This 165 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: could have been over. It's like, oh my god, why 166 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: is everyone going there? How about people need to stop 167 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: committing crimes in Los Angeles and getting away with them 168 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: or committing crimes period. And where it's all stemming from 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: is from l A District Attorney George Gasson, who people 170 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: are heavily trying to recall right now. They tried to 171 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: recall him previously a few months ago, it did not work, 172 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: and now they're trying again following the fatal shooting of 173 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Jacqueline Avant, and support is of the effort announced on 174 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the steps of the Hall of Justice on Monday that 175 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: they're going to serve him with a notice of intent 176 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: to move him from the office, and organizers have a 177 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty days to collect more than thousand signatures 178 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: of registered voters to do so to begin the process 179 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: and have another vote for a recall. So The issue 180 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: is that he created reform on bail, one of many issues, 181 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: and so people are blaming this because he wanted to 182 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: bring um equality into bail, because they were saying that 183 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: some people weren't able to afford bail and rich people 184 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: were just getting off because they could afford the bail. 185 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: So by eliminating bail, essentially it would bring equality to 186 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: the jail in prison and crime system. But instead, what 187 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: it's doing is encouraging criminals to continue to commit crime 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: because there are no punishments. They essentially are let go 189 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: because there's nothing to hold them in jail, and then 190 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: they commit crimes again. And I started reaching out to 191 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of my friends, you know, whether they are 192 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: left or right, or red or blue, or however you 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: want to say it, everybody kind of agrees this guy 194 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: should be gone. How was he voted in the first place? 195 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: Like we spent so much time recalling people that never 196 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: should be in office to begin with, I I mean, 197 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: my guess is I mean, I don't know if I 198 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: can say this, but I think with everything that was 199 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: happening with Trump, everybody was just so wanting somebody that 200 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: had progressive thinking and whatnot that they just hoped that 201 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: this guy would be able to create change, but he's 202 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: created the wrong kind of change. And now robberies are 203 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: up three point two percent this year from last year 204 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: it was too far the other direction, and homicides are 205 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: up almost that's it. It's outrageous, and I mean it's 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: getting to the place now where and in Los Angeles 207 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: you're worried to go even into Beverly Hill to eat 208 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: or shop or do whatever it may be, because people 209 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: are just taking matters into their own hands. They want it, 210 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: they just take it. And we've got to get back 211 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: to a place where if you create, if you if 212 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: you commit a crime, you get in trouble for it, 213 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: you do the time. Well, so apparently what they're doing, 214 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: these criminals, a lot of them are career criminals, but 215 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: they are following wealthy people and watching them shop and 216 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: then following back to their homes. Yeah, so they're doing 217 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: they're s talking people essentially, and because nobody's working right now, 218 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: they have all this time to do this. Yeah, and 219 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: it's just frightening. I mean, it's insane. So what you 220 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: just said, So, like the other day, someone asked my 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: daughter to go hang out somewhere like an outdoor area, 222 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: like outdoor mall, and I was like, it's I'm sorry, 223 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm sad to say, but I don't feel comfortable with that. 224 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: There's so much ship that can go wrong and does 225 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: go wrong nowadays that I really, you know, I narrow 226 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: the things that I'm like, is that worth it? Like 227 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: to think that going to like an outdoor shopping area 228 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: is now a gamble? Going to the school is now 229 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: a gamble. I mean, even think about what the Michigan 230 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: school shooting. She does it again, I know, I know, 231 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: but effortlessly. We'll talk about it in a second. I 232 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: just wanted to say one more thing. I remember in 233 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: the very beginning of the pandemic, when everyone is afraid 234 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: to leave their houses because we didn't understand the pandemic 235 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: quite yet, and everyone thought if he stepped outside, you'd 236 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: probably die. Crime was down because no one was leaving 237 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: their houses. But then once people started to understand how 238 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: the virus worked, or they had already gotten COVID and 239 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: gotten over it, people started committing crimes again. And the 240 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: air bag was stolen off my steering wheel. That's how 241 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: desperate people started to get. And then on top of 242 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: the new reforms. It need it impossible for them to 243 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: go back to not committing crimes. So a lot of 244 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: people don't have jobs. They just continually commit crimes. What 245 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: do you do with a loose air bag? Oh my god, 246 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: can you believe this? Apparently it's super valuable. So he 247 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: stole the horn and my airbag. It's so expensive. It 248 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: almost totally look for the guy walking around beeping. You 249 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: know what, totaled my car. That's hilarious. Demitri Um. Yeah, 250 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: it was such a bummer, except for the fact that 251 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I did get a convertible for a month and that 252 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: was not a bummer. So thank you who to whoever 253 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: stole I don't invite crime. Please ustume my air bag now, 254 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: thank you. It's it's happened once and that shan't happened again. 255 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: It can't, it will not. The Michigan High school shooting. 256 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: A gunman opened fired Oxford High School in Michigan on 257 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: Tuesday I room, shooting eleven people. Four students were killed 258 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: and several others were critically and seriously entered. Ethan Crumbly, 259 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old student, was later arrested in connection 260 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: with the shooting. The authority said he was charged on 261 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday with one count of terrorism causing death and four 262 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: counts of first degree murder, which could lead to a 263 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: life stiff sentence if he's convicted. And then you know, 264 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: there's so so many victims involved, so much trauma involved. 265 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: But the part that gets me even to the next 266 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: level is what his mom said to him in response, Leah, 267 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: can you yeah, I already know where you're going with this, 268 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: And she was saying, Law, I'm not mad at you. 269 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: You have to learn to not get caught like I 270 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: can't understand. I mean as a parent, I just I 271 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: can't grasp this. I one, I didn't know that it 272 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: was LAWL. I thought it was l O L. But 273 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: it also, um, it's not the same thing. No, she said, Law, 274 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, shoot, is that what has spent 275 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: this whole time? I've been spelling it out. I am old, 276 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: I am a parent. But the fact that this terrible 277 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: thing happened and he did like created all of this, 278 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: like murder and that's the response from your parents. Of 279 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: course this is going to happen, Teddy. It's a parent, 280 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: You're a parent. I just wanted to let that sink 281 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: in for a second, but also to play on words. 282 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone. I was disturbed that his parents bought 283 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the semiotic semi automatic handgun as a Christmas gift. So 284 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: it's actually not surprised that she said that. Well, and 285 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: she also when she heard about the the live shooter 286 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: or whatever active shooter, she texted him and said, don't 287 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: do it or whatever the exact words were. But that's 288 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: not Also like that means it was already on her 289 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: radar that he that that he might do that. Well, 290 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: then he does it, and that's how she reacts. But 291 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: also if he if she's responding that to what he 292 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: just did, what has she done? I mean, I know 293 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: you can't speculate that, but like, if this is the 294 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: way that you're raising your kids, if this is the 295 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: things that you're saying, I'm worried to know you know 296 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: what kind of place you're even growing up. Well, the 297 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: other thing is that you know connecting this to Brian Laundre, 298 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: a bit who also drew disturbing images and was obsessed 299 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: with blood and and and in dark images. Right, this 300 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: boy was apparently um drawing scrawled images of a gun. Um. 301 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: He there was a person who had been shot at 302 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: and he put a laughing emoji and the words blood 303 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: everywhere and the thoughts won't stop. Help me. So I 304 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear to say, and I don't mean 305 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: this in a funny way, but this is connected to 306 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: mental illness. Yeah, I mean, but it it makes you 307 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: really think about in the schools when you start to 308 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: see these red flags, what actions are being taken in 309 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: that moment. What are they doing to help these kids 310 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: that are obviously being raised in a setting where you're 311 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: getting guns as presents. And apparently, on the morning of 312 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: November the shooting, the suspect's parents were called into the 313 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: high school after one of his teachers found the alarming 314 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: notes and drawings. So there was preemptive behavior that was 315 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: obviously showing that he was deranged, and he was he 316 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: he was with them in that meeting and they said 317 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: this has to be taken care of, and then he 318 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: got sent back to class, and I mean he planned 319 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: it well before the incident. I mean, I still think 320 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: the parents need to be charged. I think they will be. 321 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: I think they will be. I think they are possibly 322 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: going to be charged for involuntary manslaughter. Wow, yeah, I 323 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: think they weren't. The charges were brought up and then 324 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: they disappeared for a while, not the charges, the parents, 325 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: and then the lawyer was like, oh, they're going to 326 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: turn themselves in, but then they found them hiding in 327 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: a warehouse, so clearly they weren't. But then they said 328 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: they caught him and brought him in and they're all 329 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: being held separately with no communication that the husband, the wife, 330 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: and the son are all being held in different areas. 331 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: So it's so sad. It's sad that we are at 332 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: that place where you have to worry to send your 333 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: kids that are older to outdoor place or to school 334 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: or because guns are readily available to people who are 335 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: already suffering. Yeah, and also, you know a lot of 336 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: times people say guns don't kill people. People kill people, 337 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: but but that's no. That's the thing is though. It 338 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: seems though that he was already on a path to 339 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: hurting other people and hurting himself potentially to himself potentially sure, 340 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: And it just seems like this person should not be 341 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: around any type of weapon, whether it's a knife or 342 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: whatever is available. It seems like this person was genuinely 343 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: out for blood and it's so disturbing. I mean, children 344 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: shouldn't have guns, Adults maybe we can't even get into this. 345 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: We can't, we can't get into this right day. Maybe 346 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: we should get into CNN. That seems like a person 347 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: easy to pick a fight with. I think I think 348 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: it's time for us to go straight into CNN. CNN 349 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: fires Chris Cuomo. What are y'all thoughts on this? You know, 350 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: I missed the beginning of the pandemic where everyone was 351 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: calling Cuomo Zaddy, I loved him. I do I miss it. 352 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: I think Chris Cuomo is super hot, would bang and look, 353 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't have any allegations against him for sexual assault? 354 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: He does now there's an allegation. Yeah, so no, I 355 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: just thought he was terminated for helping his brother will 356 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: possibly cover up this. That was important. But I guess 357 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: there was something sixteen years ago allegedly that he I 358 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the charges are, and I don't 359 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: want to say something incorrect. It's going to have to 360 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: be cut out of this episode, but there's some rumblings 361 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: of that going on. However, I did read that he 362 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: had apologized to the person the person had forgiven him, 363 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: that this was all cleared up sixteen years ago. M hmm, 364 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: So do we think this person is coming forward now 365 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: because he's in the spotlight around it. I don't it's 366 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: this is very I think this is what CNN must 367 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: have gotten wind of, and that's why we don't know 368 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: much information as slews and we can't really get the 369 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: full info. But you know, I just I think it's 370 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: also hard. I mean, and I know he got a 371 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of heat for helping his brother get a lawyer. Um, 372 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: And then it draws the question, you know, like when 373 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: is helping your family member too much? In my opinion, 374 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: I think obviously the loundry is doing what they allegedly 375 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: did with Brian, that to me, that's crossing the boundary. 376 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: But a brother helping somebody secure a lawyer, to me, isn't. 377 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: It's not like he was helping him escape. But I 378 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's you're damned if you do. 379 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: You're damned if you don't. Now it's like whatever you 380 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: say you're going to be, you know, really getting a 381 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: lot of heat for. But it's this one's a hard 382 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: one for me to swallow. All he wants for Christmas 383 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: is the charges dropped. Speaking of dropping charges, we are sorry, Teddy, 384 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: just so much better when you do it, you know, 385 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I can't be the Segway girl. 386 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: That's really that was nice. That was nice. Thank you. 387 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin is trying to evade any sort of charges 388 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: or responsibility for what happened on his set of the 389 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: movie Rust, where he allegedly did not shoot the gun 390 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: that killed the DP, and so Alec is saying he 391 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: did not shoot the gun that killed his DP and 392 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: wounded the director. He's saying that he would never point 393 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: a gun at someone or intentionally try to shoot someone. 394 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: It would never actually fire the weapon. And he's also 395 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: saying it was never brought to his attention that there 396 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: was unrest from the crew and that anyone else thought 397 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: it was unsafe and that they had been cutting corners. 398 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: But earlier that day, I think over six people left 399 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: the set because they thought it was unsafe. I mean, 400 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing I can see from a high profile actor, 401 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, producer, maybe they were hiding what was really 402 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: going on on set from him as to not upset him, 403 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: which happens in business sometimes you you protect it from 404 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: the boss so that the boss doesn't get upset that 405 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: things aren't running well. So I mean, you can suspend 406 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: your belief that that could be the case. They also 407 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: as a specialist that watched him do his interview and 408 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: believes him to be telling the truth by his hand 409 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: movements and those types of things. I mean, I think 410 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: this is a terrible tragedy. I want to believe that 411 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: Alec had absolutely no idea. I can't what there would 412 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: be no reason for him to do such a thing. 413 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: He never alluded to wanting to do it. I mean, 414 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: I it's his movie. It's supposed to be something that 415 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: he's going to promote, and that to turn into this 416 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: can't be something that anybody would ever want. Well, he's 417 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: calling to find out who put a bullet in the gun, 418 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: because again this is about gun violence, although this is 419 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: obviously accidental not intentional, And you know they're saying there 420 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: are two ways to fire a gun. You either pull 421 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: the trigger or pulled the hammer back and drop it. Yeah, 422 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know. It's so it's so so 423 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: so upsetting, and obviously, obviously I think everyone can agree 424 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Alec did not intentionally mean to harm anyone. I think 425 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: that's something we can all agree on. Yeah, it's just 426 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: a Yeah, it's a horrible situation, and I think we 427 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: only have time for one more recap before we bring 428 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: on our our guest. All right, So Jesse is testifying 429 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: he and the accuser shared drug fueled nights at a 430 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: gay bath house. And look, I think the moral of 431 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: the story is that this is obviously a setup, and 432 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: they have the two brothers that were hired by Jesse 433 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: to fake the crime, and they both thought that this 434 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: would amplify their careers. And obviously neither of them were 435 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: Trump supporters. They were carrying out fake hate crimes pretending 436 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: to be Trump supporters, saying, you know, horrible racial and 437 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: homophobic slers. So these two brothers took testimony on Wednesday 438 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: and Thursday in the criminal trial on charges that he 439 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: staged the attack and falsely reported to the police, and 440 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: one of the brothers was saying that Jesse had a 441 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: crazy idea of having two MAGA supporters attack him because 442 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: he wanted to put it on his social media. The 443 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: part that I just still resonates with me is when 444 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: the cops arrived and he still had the news around 445 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: his neck. Well, apparently he also wanted them to pour 446 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: gasoline on him, but he was they were so uncomfortable 447 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: with doing that, and they ended up changing it to 448 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: bleach because the brothers were uncomfortable using gasolene. I think too, Yeah, 449 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: it's a no for me. And so you know, I 450 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: think that they are trying to the defenses is requesting 451 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: a mistrial, of course, and there have been exchanges between 452 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: the judge and the defense that have escalated and become 453 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: stupe emotional, and you know, at one point sobbing and 454 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: pacing around his table. This like the defense is upset 455 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: with the judge. And I think that there's a lot 456 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: of emotion coming into play. So I'm excited to see 457 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: when they come back on Monday to hear closing arguments 458 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: and begin deliberating what will actually happen. Me too, which 459 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: I guess we can get into next week because we've 460 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: got to take a little break because we've got Justin 461 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: in the waiting room. I'm so excited for Justin. Me too, 462 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: Me too, all right, So you guys in sick all right. 463 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: So I have been obsessed with the Jeffrey Epstein case, 464 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: all of this from the beginning, and I we just 465 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: let's start, which is Justin. What got you so interested 466 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: in this case? In this trial? I think, just like 467 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: all of us we've kind of been watching it for 468 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: a while, and then there was this period where it 469 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: went quiet and then all of a sudden it's coming back. 470 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like, get lost, um, not excitement, because 471 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: excitement is the wrong word to use about this, Like 472 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be excited about this, but it lost like steam, 473 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: like people weren't talking about it as much. And now 474 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: it's like the actual time when um, she's going in 475 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: and justice could be served and like people are going 476 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: to be named and what whatnot, and all of a sudden, 477 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: I honestly I felt like it's just gone quiet in 478 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: the mainstream media, you know. So I was just very 479 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: casually and Teddy. We follow each other on Instagram and 480 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I love to talk to people, like I really enjoy 481 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: social media because I like to connect and engage. And 482 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I've always had a rule for myself, like I'll never 483 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: talk about things that are divisive or super political. I'll 484 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: never throw my beliefs at people because I don't really 485 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: know who all is following me, so I don't want 486 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: to offend people whatever. So when I um this Gillian 487 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: trial came back up, I was like, I want to 488 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: talk about this because no one's talking about what's going on, 489 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: and I wasn't even thinking about it being a divisive issue, 490 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it turned into this left 491 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: right fight, and I was like, what the heck is 492 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: going on here? And I didn't realize that at some 493 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: point people lumped trild child such sex trafficking in with 494 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: the extreme right and they started saying it's a conspiracy 495 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: thing to talk about sex traffick and I was like, 496 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: holy sh it, this is a problem then, you know. 497 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: And then that's when I really start paying attention to it. Yeah. 498 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, even when I started posting just little things 499 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: about it today, just saying like I'm bringing justin on 500 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about this, people started messaging me and saying, hey, listen, 501 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: this is all over mainstream news. What are you talking 502 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: about your And it's something that shows shocking to me, 503 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: because like, really, I've seen us talk about it. I 504 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: saw House and have It talk about it. I see 505 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Perez Hilton talk about it. But it's it's as you 506 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: posted on your stories today. It's not on the Wall 507 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Street Journal, it's not on where New York Times, Washington Post, 508 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: the New York Times. And here's the thing. When people say, 509 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: what are you saying it's all over. You can Google 510 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: anything and find anything. You can also go into the 511 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: dark weab and find really crazy stuff. So you can 512 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: find anything when you Google, if you go to CNN, 513 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: if you go to the Washington Post, if you go 514 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: to the New York Times, and you just start to 515 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: scroll the page, it's not in the top headlines. Now, 516 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: that's not some weird conspiracy there. You literally go do it, 517 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: just stroll through. It's not in the top So it's 518 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: definitely being hidden a little bit. So my thing is like, 519 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: why are people so quick to like fight back and 520 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: be like, no, it's absolutely there, it's not you know, 521 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: I watched the View every single day. The show on 522 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Keep You never gets some other you can't watch that garbage. 523 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: It's just women with one view fighting with each other 524 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: all the time or whatever. And I'm like, no, I 525 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: like to watch CNN, I like to watch Fox, I 526 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: like to watch the News. I want to see all 527 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: perspectives because I really want to take it all in. 528 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: And um, they don't mention it ever on the View. 529 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: They never talked about something like what is going on? 530 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: And I don't know how deep you guys want to go, 531 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: but I do think there's something to this case is 532 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: being protected. It just is it's being kept really quiet. 533 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: If they wanted us to know about this, and they 534 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: thought that they could get us all to fight about this, 535 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: it would be everywhere. Think about every massive trial that's 536 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: been out in the past few years. It's blasted in 537 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: our face trial, it's everywhere. Because this is a federal case, 538 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: we can't have any live streaming footage of it. That's 539 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: exact they're saying. But any other case that's ever been 540 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: like this before where you couldn't have cameras inside, it 541 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: would be even more packed outside the courthouse. So outside 542 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the courthouse, you shouldn't be able to get close to 543 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: the court to the courthouse. So there's this woman on 544 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: Instagram house in habit and she actually flew herself to 545 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: New York because she wanted to be there, and she's 546 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: been showing videos every morning where there is no one 547 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: in front. And what that tells me is every major 548 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: news source isn't sending their journalists, are sending their reporters 549 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: there um to cover this, And what the problem with 550 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: that is, Because then people on Instagram will say to me, 551 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: justin what's the problem, Why do you want it to 552 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: be mayhem outside of the court, and I'm like, not 553 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: even mayhem, just people actually being there reporting in real time. 554 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: But what it says to everyone when they see it 555 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: empty in front of the courthouse is that it's like, oh, 556 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: we don't really care about this case or it's being 557 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: taken care of. It's not. This woman house in Habit 558 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: is saying. What she's hearing in the courts right now 559 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: is that they're literally discounting these women, the victims voices. 560 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: They're trying to put them down because what they want 561 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: to do is they want to silent this really quick. 562 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: They don't want the names to come out, you know. 563 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean it gets deep to like that's why they 564 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: don't want the reporters there, because they don't want anyone 565 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: writing in real time what's happening, because then they're going 566 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: to have to start sharing the truth. And that's why 567 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: that's why people are avoiding it is because it's actually 568 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: both sides of everything, so you can't This isn't one 569 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: of those things they can just angle and say this 570 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: is what these people did. Once you start talking about it, 571 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: whoever you're also on the side with that name is 572 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: coming up too. So everyone's just like forget about But 573 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: to me, regardless of what your side is, there were 574 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: so there was a ring, there was a pyramid of 575 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: abused girls. Right, So it doesn't matter which side you're on. 576 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: This is the thing that drives me crazy too, just 577 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: as like an empathetic like I like to like get 578 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: along with everyone, like fun, like to whatever. This is 579 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: a yeah in the in the past like two years 580 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: that we've all had, right, we've just been dragged through it. Right, 581 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: this would actually be of all the cases, none of 582 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: us want to celebrate anything like this, but this would 583 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: be the one case where we could all come together 584 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: and be like, we want to watch this trial and 585 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: we want justice. We want names to come up, we 586 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: want people to go to jail, we want to see 587 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: justice for these girls, the victims. So why is the 588 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: one case that could bring us together just being completely silenced? 589 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: And that goes back to like the media just works 590 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: really well when we're all fighting with each other. They 591 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: want to us all screening at each other all the 592 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: time to be to buy it. This isn't a left 593 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: or right issue. I was gonna say, So, why do 594 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: you think that the networks are so afraid to send 595 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: reporters because I honestly believe and I don't know. I mean, frak, 596 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not like Sutton on the House. 597 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I was talking to my lawyer before I do things. 598 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: But I don't you know anything I want to I 599 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: want to say. I want to say really quick early 600 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: in us talking like I'm not an expert in this. 601 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: I freaking have done a hair color for my whole life, 602 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: like I have my own hair colored brand. I'm not 603 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: a journalist. I didn't even go to college. I'm talking 604 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: like a real person, just conversation. I also don't care 605 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: if somebody explains to me like, oh, you're actually wrong 606 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: with this, and then I would keep talking about that, 607 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: going a different direction. What ever. So I'm not trying 608 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: to act like I'm an expert on this. But the 609 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: funny thing to me was, so about a two years 610 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: ago I moved to Nashville. My whole career in l 611 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: A was doing celebrity hair mostly That's what I was 612 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: known for, doing, really big celebrity names and then tons 613 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: of my favorites, which are reality stars. Um. But so 614 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: I've always been in this Hollywood real celebrity world. So 615 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: about a year ago, my cousin Tim Ballard has a rescue, 616 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: an organization called Our Rescue and it's all about sex trafficking. 617 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: And about a year ago I gave him a shout 618 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: out like, hey, you guys follow my cousin Kim and 619 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: his organization, and all of a sudden, all these dm 620 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: started coming and say thank you so much for being 621 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: someone from Hollywood who's talking about sex trafficking. And I'm like, 622 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: why wouldn't I talk about sex trafficking? And then I 623 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: started talking to people and they're like, no, celebrities will 624 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: talk about um sex trafficking, And all of a sudden, 625 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: like what the hell is going on? To cut to somewhere. 626 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: Somebody made it a thing if you talk about sex trafficking, 627 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: you're crazy conservatives exactly. So my thing is is like 628 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: that is to check someone. Why is this conversation being 629 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: so shut down because there's people that don't want it 630 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: to get out. I mean, meanwhile, this trial started and 631 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: even C suite execs have all stepped down from their 632 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: positions from various networks jobs. So it lets you know 633 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of people in positions of power are terrified, 634 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: which kind of lends itself to the next question is 635 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: do you feel like Gaalaine is being blamed for Epstein's 636 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: actions and how involved do you think she really was 637 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: in all of this? Um, I, you know, it's it's 638 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: a careful It's something that you have to be careful 639 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: with because you don't want to say, like, yeah, she 640 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: should get all of it. But she's the one who's 641 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: alive right now, she's the one in trial. But now 642 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, she was just as involved as he was. 643 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: She was the one that was going out and finding 644 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: these girls, she was grooming them, she was bringing it back. 645 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: She was in the room when the sex abuse happened. 646 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: So it's like, absolutely she should be treated as part 647 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: of this. She she's the only one left there. But 648 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: the real thing that she has, she has the names. 649 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: She has the ability to name off who which that island, 650 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: who actually messed around with kids. They're saying that that 651 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: island was full of cameras everywhere. I really believe in 652 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: this is just my opinion or what I think. I 653 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: think they have videos and photos of tons of high 654 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: powered people engaging in this that they wanted to use 655 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: as blackmail, and that's what everyone is so afraid that 656 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: it will get out. So it's like, let's hush Galaine, 657 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: let's say that we're gonna give her the highest sentence possible. 658 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: But really what they're gonna do is just hide her away, 659 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: keep all of that a big secret. That's fucking scary. No, 660 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: it's it's really scary. Especially I watched the documentary on 661 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: her that was on Hulu, and it really breaks down 662 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: how involved she allegedly is and how they The part 663 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: that really sickens me is like they preyed on the week, 664 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: they preyed on girls that were abused before, and then 665 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: when those girls would be to their breaking point, way 666 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: that they would keep the girls allegedly was that they 667 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: would then still pay them to bring on more girls. 668 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: So now they're adding all of this hate because now 669 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: they've had brought in forty to fifty of their friends 670 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: or people they know or they go to school with, 671 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: and now they've done the same thing to them. Is 672 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: that or there's little sister or whatever it may be. 673 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: So the chain of abuse is so long, and I 674 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: mean a lot of these women are saying that not 675 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: only was she in the room, but a lot of 676 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: the time she was allegedly touching them as well, and 677 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: becoming their friend and becoming someone that they looked up to. 678 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: And I just think that regardless, And and then people 679 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: will also say because of her father she was you know, 680 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: this is why she is the way that she is 681 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: to me, regardless, she seems like a very smart woman 682 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: and very calculated. Like she didn't meet Epstein by accident, 683 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: she didn't get linked into him by accident. She knew 684 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: what she was doing. She no longer had money, and 685 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't have empathy for her in 686 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: this case millions of dollars. Well, she's upset right now 687 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: that Epstein's people aren't paying her lawyer. Yeah, she is. 688 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you talked about her dad, because 689 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: her dad was also a very similar type of person 690 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein. They were feared um in intense terrifying 691 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: people who were the heads of their organizations. And she 692 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: always tried to please her father. She was the little 693 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: list of nine siblings. And when her father died and 694 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: his yacht was called Lady Gallaine, so you know, he 695 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: loved her the most. It's so creepy, but I don't 696 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: think you can really love if you're a narcissist. Yeah, yes, 697 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: whatever that word is. Yeah, what he wanted he I 698 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: don't know. He wanted him to be pleased the most 699 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: by her. I don't know. It's so gross. When he died, 700 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: allegedly she was seen shredding documents of his so as 701 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: you do when someone close to you, guys, right, exactly. Um. Yeah, 702 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: by the way, Teddy, I've got a lot of documents 703 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: in a drawer just in case anything. How I'm not, 704 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't have your back there, I will 705 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: that case will be covered. If I'm sorry, I'm out. 706 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: But the mold you whatever, Teddy, We're gonna have to 707 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: have a talk after this. But I think you know, 708 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: she's not new to crime, but and adjust to play 709 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: devil's advocate. Do you guys think that she was conditioned 710 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: to this because of the way that she was grown, 711 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: the way she was raised. It was it was made 712 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: normal to her. I think yeah, absolutely. The relationship with 713 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: her father, that was the thing. You know, people are like, oh, 714 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: why is that really? Then it's absolutely relevant, like where 715 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: did she learn this kind of behavior that you just 716 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: you serve to a man, you know, her father the 717 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: whole time. Once her father passed away. She absolutely was 718 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: looking for a certain sort of lifestyle. They say that 719 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: what Epstein got from Geelame was that she had all 720 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: these connections with with powerful people. He was actually like 721 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: an anu, He liked to hide out, he didn't want 722 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: to be super super social. She would go out and 723 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: do all of that networking for them. So they like 724 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: they found this thing. They were part they were partners 725 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: and this whole huge crime um and so yeah, that's 726 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: why she is getting what she's getting, and we all 727 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: should see it and we should hear anything. The thing 728 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: that's crazy too, is like if there is this cyber 729 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: people like, oh, this is a conspiracy and you're going 730 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole. If you really believe that, Okay, 731 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: I get it, But then why wouldn't you want it 732 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: to be uncovered even more than let's get to the 733 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: bottom of it, and let's prove that people are are 734 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: being crazy when they're asking for more questions. Why is 735 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: it keep being more hidden and that's just gonna keep 736 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: us all being like crazy and all this controversy going 737 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: on and fighting. Then answer the question, put it all 738 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: out there for all of us to see. Explain to 739 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: us how people aren't involved. I mean, because for me, 740 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: it's about facts. That's why I it's not political at all. 741 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm not even well versed politically, but i want to 742 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: know the facts. And when I see that the chain 743 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: of abuse is now getting escalated to the courtroom because 744 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: these girls the same way that Epstein and Glene allegedly 745 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: seek them out to abuse them, is what the lawyers 746 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: are now doing to them by bringing up the past trauma, 747 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: by bringing up that they may have had an abortion, 748 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: by bringing up, you know, history of drug use. If 749 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: you're being abused, most likely you are going to medicate 750 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: exactly these women were abused. Of course, some of them 751 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: are going to turn to drugs later. They're not going 752 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: to have like a healthy, normal lifestyle after they've been 753 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: abused as a teenager. So pointing that stuff out doesn't 754 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: tell me anything. Of course, these girls are damaged. No 755 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: one has taken care of him, no one's listened to him. 756 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: And now you're in a court and you're gonna tear 757 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: him down. Say, oh, you were a cocaine user, you 758 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: che ne did on your first husband. Yeah, it's not shocking. 759 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't tell us anything. Or you want you said 760 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: nice things to Epstein, like you thanked him for Like, yes, 761 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: you're They were being manipulated, they were being sent to colleges, 762 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: they were being sent to like paid for. So people 763 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: get confused, They get confused between love and money. But 764 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: then there's the other side of abuse, Like most of 765 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: these women said they had to compartmentalize them in two 766 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: different spaces because they were taken on trips they never 767 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: would have done. They were doing things they like there 768 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: were times where they felt like a family. That's actually 769 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: what grooming is exactly exactly. And the crazy thing about 770 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: this conversation right here, like what we're having right now, 771 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: it's sad that we even have to have this kind 772 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: of conversation because they're not it's not out there. It's 773 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: not in the media where all these questions can be 774 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: answered because it's so hidden. So it's like all these 775 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: conspiracies are going to keep going on. Like unfortunately with 776 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: social media, this stuff doesn't just go away. It's gonna 777 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: be talked about and people are gonna get angry because 778 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: they want to hear more. So I don't understand how 779 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: they think they can hide this. I think they're fit 780 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: figuring out. It's like, holy sh it, like this could 781 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: get really loud, like it's on the brink, like people 782 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: are starting to poke into it and stuff. But most 783 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: people don't want to talk about kids being abused either. 784 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: It's not something you talk about at the dinner with 785 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: your whole family. You don't go to work and talk 786 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: to You kind of have to feel people out, like 787 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: are you willing to talk about this topic? You know? 788 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: And that scares me. It's just it'll go as long 789 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: as it's as long as it's happening. It needs I 790 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: agree with you, it needs to be talked about more. 791 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: Otherwise it's just going to be continued to be swept 792 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: under the rug. Yeah. I also think this is why 793 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: they're denying her bail requests, even though she's asking for 794 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight point five million bail, because they know that 795 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: she's a flight risk and that she'll probably jump ship 796 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: and hide because there are so many secrets and if 797 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: they keep digging, they're going to get there, and there 798 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: are so many people that want to keep these secrets hidden. 799 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: Can we also discuss the fact that in between when 800 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: Epstein was arrested and dyeing all these things, she was 801 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: out there doing ted talks. I'm sorry like we already knew, 802 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: we already knew, and yet you're out doing TED talks 803 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: empowering women starting these new companies. Like she ends up 804 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: with another wealthy man that ends up leaving his wife 805 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: for her, Like there is a pattern here I don't understand. 806 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a narcissist right there, not taking any 807 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: accountability at all. Like this woman, if she gets off 808 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: like she does, she's not going to learn a lesson. 809 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: It's not like all of a sudden she's gonna be 810 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: a better person, you know, But at this point, beyond 811 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: just trying to put her in jail, she should absolutely 812 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: put in jail for the maximum amount of time, but 813 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: beyond that, like we need to know who else was involved. 814 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: Also just for quieting down the rumors. I'm so sick 815 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 1: of going on the Internet and having people write things 816 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: or right to me the d M s about like 817 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: you know that all of Hollywood is involved in this, 818 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: And because people know that I've been connected to celebrities 819 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: when I worked in l A, people always say like, 820 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: justin you know that Hollywood is disgusting. The I'm like, 821 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: no one in Hollywood is eating babies. The general doesn't 822 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: have like ellenor Jenners, so that have kids in her basement. 823 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean when I moved, I'll be honest, when I 824 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: moved to the South was the first time I started 825 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: hearing celebrity rumors, like people like, oh wait, you're connected 826 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: to Hollywood? Have you heard the blablah? I'm like, are 827 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: you guys out of your damn mind? Like yours? Like 828 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: Christian is eating babies? And yeah, I mean, yeah, Hollywood 829 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: is discussing, just not for that reason. They have a 830 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: whole other slow of reasons. But like that's why I 831 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: guess why I can't wrap my head around is why 832 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: do they have to be the same thing. Why can't 833 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: it just be here's the information, here's what's going on, who, 834 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: here's who's involved in this case, and then if it's shown, 835 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: we can start to educate our families and how to 836 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: protect themselves. Exactly. I just want to really quickly give 837 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: a rundown of the charges relating to the allegations that 838 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: she's had over the past ten year period between two 839 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: thousand four. So, the charges so far are conspiracy to 840 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: entice miners to travel to engage in a legal sex act, 841 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: enticement of a minor to travel, to engage in a 842 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: legal sex acts, conspiracy to transport miners with intent to 843 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: engage in criminal sexual activity, transporting a minor with the 844 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, sex trafficking, conspiracy 845 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: sex trafficking of a minor, and she's also charged with 846 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: two counts of perjury. So those are a lot of 847 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: allegations to get out of. I don't I think if 848 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: she gets off on one, she's not getting off on 849 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: all of these. I don't think she's getting off. But 850 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: I think the point is why don't we Why aren't 851 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: we hearing the updates because of I mean, even when 852 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: you watch Prince Andrew stumble through his interview about how 853 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: he was never in the picture, he never even thinks 854 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: he went upstairs, Like it's unbelievable, Like, why are we 855 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: talking about it? And why when we are talking about it? 856 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we need to get into the 857 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: world of being shadow banded. Why when you're talking about it, 858 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, of the algorithms chained on your 859 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: Instagram and people can't see your story. Well, if that 860 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: doesn't tell you something right there, it's like, come on, 861 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: like there is absolutely something going on. We know that 862 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: this is being trying to be hidden. The thing that's 863 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: funny about Prince Andrew is it's like the fact that 864 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: he even thinks that, like, because of his position, he 865 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: can just say that, oh, I wasn't there. It's like, dude, 866 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: we see the pictures, like you, we're looking at the photo. 867 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: We see the pictures, and we've seen the interview from 868 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: the girl. Yeah. And and Galine is trying to deflect 869 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: any of the blame on her and saying that if 870 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 1: Epstein was still alive, no one would care about her. 871 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: They I still care about her. I'm actually I love 872 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: that she mad at her because she should be protecting 873 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: these girls. Yea, exactly, yes. And she was acting like 874 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: a fake sister or mother and showering them in gifts 875 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 1: and wading outside schoolyard gates to groom girls and poach 876 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: them and find them. And she was saying, you know 877 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: how he likes them skinny and pretty and young. Yeah, 878 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm is bad because I would have never been chosen. 879 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean. The other thing is Glen says that Jeffrey 880 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: needed to have sex three times a day and it 881 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: was hard for her to keep up. Yeah, It's like, yeah, 882 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: who doesn't how else are you supposed to be productive? Um, 883 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't try having some kids. Kidding, I'm so single, 884 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm so single. But you can schedule the three times 885 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: a week with me between this hour and this hour. 886 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: But but also, you know, I feel bad for the 887 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: women and the pseudonyms that they're using. Obviously, for one 888 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: like Kate who was trained to massage his feet, so 889 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: Gleyne would massage his feet, then she would massage his feet, 890 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: and then he would call her in to have a 891 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: different type of massage, and Glen would give her all 892 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: these compliments about saying, oh, I'm so glad you're here. 893 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: You did such a good time last time that he 894 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: wanted you to come back. And it just makes one 895 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: of vomit in my mouth. I mean, this is so disgusting. 896 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: And anybody who has I mean, Teddy, you have kids, 897 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: and anybody, I mean all of my best friends or girls, 898 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: like all of us should be just like up in 899 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: arms about this. We should want this to be taken 900 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: care of. It needs to be blasted everywhere, like this 901 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: is something that obviously needs to be taken care of 902 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: beyond just Epstein. But he's the biggest case that we've 903 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: ever seen of this type of type of thing. You know, 904 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: So when people are saying like, um oh Epstein himself 905 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: today on social media, people were saying, oh, the reason 906 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: people aren't talking about because Epstein himself isn't that famous, 907 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: Like some people don't care, Like what are you talking about? 908 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: Like this is this, this case should be everywhere. We 909 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: should all absolutely care, we should all want this to 910 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: be taken care of. Um. I just won't understand these 911 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: people wanted to fight about it online other than just 912 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: coming together, because I think that's what's happening right now. 913 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: I think that's why. You know, I'm glad we're having 914 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: this conversation. But the divide people want. People are so 915 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: lost right now that they want to do anything to 916 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: give them that rise and feeling. So fighting with each 917 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: other is the only way they're getting that like feeling. 918 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: That That's why it's like how some people are in 919 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: bad relationships because they ultimately like that rush of getting 920 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: in that fight and then making up and having makeup 921 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: sex or whatever it is. And then imagine when you 922 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: finally get into a good relationship because I was in 923 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: the really messy with a wonderful one, but how good 924 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: it is on the other side. So the thing is, 925 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: it's like, you guys, imagine how great it's gonna be. 926 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: Like the next chapter of all of our lives after 927 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: the past two years we just had, is should be 928 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: to come together to bond somehow as Americans. And that's 929 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: not me being like kumbaya and trying to be sweet. 930 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: It's like, aren't we sick of fighting about everything? And 931 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: now we're even fighting about sex trafficking victims of like 932 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: sexual abuse children were fighting about that. To be honest, 933 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised there are no protests outside the trial. 934 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: You think that after the year we've had with everyone 935 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: protesting and being the streets, that that there you and 936 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: to walk towards the trial. But that's the problem. That's 937 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: the problem with the media not being involved too, is 938 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: that the media wanted there to be riots, and they 939 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: wanted us to They would set that up, you know. 940 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: But it's like, there should absolutely people out front who 941 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: are demanding justice, like to show that this is a 942 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: massive case that we all care about, but they're not 943 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: out there because do you know how many people even 944 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: write to me on Instagram who are like, um, what 945 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: trial are you even talking about? What are you talking 946 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: about and I'm like the fact that you don't even know. Well, 947 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: we have to remember that this happened already once the 948 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 1: first time in Florida. Remember when everything just got pushed 949 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: aside at the first time he was arrested. Yeah, that's 950 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: a bigger red flag than my ex boyfriend. I can't 951 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: but I think, you know. In closing, because I know 952 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: we're running out of time, justin what do you recommend 953 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: that people do right now to get educated on this 954 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: for facts, it's not about political but facts. And then 955 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: how do they spread the word so this becomes something 956 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: that we're all talking about, not fighting about. You know, 957 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: It's funny. There's that account that we keep talking about. 958 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: Her name is house Inhabit. Her name is Jessica, and 959 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: I've actually been following her for like the past year 960 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: and a half on my fake account. So I've been 961 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: watching all of her stories because before I before I 962 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: shout something, because even though I act like a total 963 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: idiot on Instagram, like I am thoughtful. I like I 964 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: was saying earlier, I don't want to talk about politics, 965 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm not even smart enough to go to debate 966 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: with people in politics. So I'm really careful about what 967 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: I put out there. But I was following for a 968 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: year and I was like, wow, this woman is being very, 969 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: very open both She's not making it about a left 970 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: or right issue. She really breaks everything down and lets 971 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: people be like, here's the fact, you guys think what 972 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: you want. So I've been following her and she just 973 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: gets to be really fired up. So house Inhabit on 974 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: Instagram is fabulous. And then beyond that, it's just, um, 975 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: don't be afraid to have this conversation or to be 976 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: paying attention to it. Like I'm seeing that more some 977 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: people are starting to post about it on Instagram, but um, 978 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: it's just while it's to me that they're not. I mean, 979 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: there are all the crazy hashtag people who fight for everything, 980 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: but then it's absolute silence with this. Every other issue 981 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: that we've run into in the past few years has 982 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: a hashtag and a movement. Everyone's screaming yes, like yeah, 983 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: this is just literally crickets. Like that's so weird to 984 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: be you know. It's like, I don't even want to 985 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: do the whole box thing and yelling at each other, 986 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 1: pushing all that kind of stuff, but this has nothing. 987 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: No one's talking about it. So house in habit is great. Wait, Teddy, 988 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: what's the feel like? Are your friends in l A 989 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: talking about it? You know? Not really? I mean I 990 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: think that. I mean, if if somebody brings it up, 991 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: we'll have the conversation. But I think it's more like 992 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: we we've watched this movie and it's not really happening, right, 993 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, when we all watched the documentary 994 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: when it came out on Netflix, Filthy Wrench, everybody kind 995 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: of talked about that, but it was like it was 996 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: not real life. And I think that's what's because it's 997 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: so terrible and it's so traumatic. I think people put 998 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: it to the side because you don't want to believe 999 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: it to be true. People are just assuming it will 1000 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: get handled because it's so obvious that it all happened. Well, 1001 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: And here's the thing to anyone, to anyone listening, like 1002 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: it will be handled in the sense that like she will, 1003 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: she'll be found guilty if she has found guild, like 1004 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: she'll be handled. But there's a whole bigger web that's 1005 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: not being opened up. That's what's not going to be 1006 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: handled unless people start demanding, like, who's in the Black Book? 1007 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: Talk about that? Where are the tapes that you guys have, 1008 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: the videos that you guys have, Like why aren't names 1009 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: being said? They won't be they won't be said. There's 1010 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 1: way too much money behind it, so Galanne will be 1011 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: taken care of. But that's the problem. But I think 1012 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: that that's you know, it's not that this is a 1013 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: true comparison, but even what happened with Free Brittany, it 1014 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: took people to repeatedly talk about it, open up the 1015 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: conversation of conservativeship for people to actually make can you 1016 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: change and go to court and actually want to know her? 1017 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: You want to know? It's funny and like, I have 1018 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: to share this in case some people end up on 1019 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: this podcast who have listened to be talked before I 1020 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: got into hot water about a year and a half ago, 1021 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: because when the free Britney stuff was happening, I was 1022 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know, I think Britney spine. 1023 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: I think that Britney wants help, She'll ask and I'll 1024 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: be really honest. There were a lot of people close 1025 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: to Brittany who kind of got in my ear about 1026 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago. It was like Britney spine, 1027 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: like whatever, and they grooming sounds so weird, but kind 1028 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 1: of taught me to be like, no Brittney spine because 1029 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: before that I was doing hashtag free Brittany or whatever, 1030 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: and these people came in there like she's fine or whatever, 1031 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 1: and so I was kind of like, she's fine whatever. 1032 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, when all this opened up, 1033 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 1: I was like, holy sh it, like I got silence 1034 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: I was. I started saying things like she's fine, it's 1035 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna be taking care of whatever. So now looking back 1036 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, there are a lot of things 1037 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: that are gonna happen now and moving forward that we 1038 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,959 Speaker 1: really do have to pay attention to and get loud about, 1039 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: asked more questions. So I learned it from Brittany. Everything 1040 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 1: goes back to Brittany for me, I mean everything, everything 1041 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: is Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so much 1042 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: for joining us justin Please if there's ever a case 1043 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: you want to talk about, we talk about them all. 1044 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: Please come on again. We are such a pleasure. And 1045 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: I love following you because I learned from you. I 1046 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: hear different conversations. I also love that if you say 1047 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: something and you change your mind, you will always end 1048 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: up You'll say you're like, listen, you prove me wrong 1049 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: or this happened right. I love that because that's growth, 1050 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: you guys, And that's the only way that we started 1051 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: to use that word in the sentence. What what I 1052 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,439 Speaker 1: don't even know what's that? Oh? Growth? Yeah, I mean, 1053 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: but that's growth, and it's the only way that we 1054 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: all are out actually going to do it. And so 1055 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for speaking out justin for coming on 1056 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: and talking with us, because it's the only way, it's 1057 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: the only way out of all of this. I appreciate 1058 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: that so much. I really appreciate you pointing that out, 1059 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: Teddy like a lot, because I do think that that's 1060 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: what's missing right now is everyone's yelling their stuff, but 1061 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: it's okay to talk and also take things back and say, wow, 1062 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: now I'm seeing it this way, and I think that's 1063 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: what we're all missing as humans. There needs to be 1064 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot more of that, just conversations back and forth. Yeah, 1065 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to hate each other afterwards, you can 1066 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: just have a conversation. But yeah, we'll do the best 1067 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: that we can. Um, guys, hope we need to come 1068 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: up with a hashtag for this. That seems to be 1069 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: the only reason that people get excited about something. Let's 1070 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: see what our responses from this, and then maybe we'll 1071 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,439 Speaker 1: have to all collectively come together and we get we'll 1072 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: create a hashtag and do all that. We have homework, 1073 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: all right, everybody got to three? Go? All right? Thank 1074 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: you guys, Thank you Justin to me, I mean, I'm 1075 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: all about hashtag. Galaine maxed out. I I guys, I 1076 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: just I can't believe all this, Leah, thank you so 1077 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: much for informing us on so many terrible news updates, 1078 00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 1: so many things. Thank you so much, Teddy, really do 1079 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: our call in number just the way that only you 1080 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, of course always, and of course thank 1081 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: you Justin for coming on and being our celebrity social 1082 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: sleuth of the week. 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