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Speaker 1: Before we get to that. I just downloaded the Gemini app.

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Speaker 1: of my mind. Microsoft, No GROC, which is obviously Elon's. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then I compare and contrast and it's kind of interesting

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Speaker 2: And I just.

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Speaker 1: Downloaded Gemini and said, hey, Gemini, I've been using Claude, Chat, GPT,

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Speaker 1: and GROC, and now I'm gonna include you in compare

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Speaker 1: a rundown of the different styles we all have. And

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Speaker 1: then it gave me a like a table that said,

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Speaker 1: for different kinds of problems, who's best at it and

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Speaker 1: who's not in their conversational tone and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: It's just so weird.

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Speaker 3: Was it self serving or do you think it was

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Speaker 1: It seemed pretty honest. There was only one that was

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Speaker 1: There was only one that seems self serving, although it

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe interesting, but.

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Speaker 1: Those other guys, those guys suck.

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Speaker 3: You want to hang with losers, Go ahead, loser, You're

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Speaker 1: Google saying something is too online is pretty funny. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: have the first three you mentioned, and I asked them

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Speaker 3: recommend maybe the twenty the twenty greatest books about liberty?

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Speaker 1: How much overlap was there in the answer pretty fair amount.

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Speaker 3: But enough underlap, none lap? What's the opposite overlap? And

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Speaker 1: bothered by F bombs, then you're not going to want

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Speaker 1: to listen to this. This is from The Daily Show

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Speaker 1: Monday night on Comedy Central. John Stewart does it once

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Speaker 1: I remember back in the day, they would bleep him

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Speaker 1: My sense is this my senses? They just started pushing

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Speaker 3: Look for quote unquote caving. I'm intrigued.

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Speaker 1: This is about my party saying enough is enough.

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Speaker 3: Democrats will not back down, do not stop fighting.

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Speaker 5: Democrats cave on the shutdown.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, cave on the shutdown.

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Speaker 5: Not this forceful, young, authentic Democratic party that hangs out

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Speaker 4: And I say, Democrats, you gave up the only leverage

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Speaker 3: John, they had no leverage.

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Speaker 5: No, theytin caved on the shutdown, not even, not even

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Speaker 5: a full week removed from the best election night results

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Speaker 2: I cannot be lad you had the wind at your back.

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Speaker 5: Election victories all over the country. The new Sydney Sweeney

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Speaker 2: Who could have seen that company?

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Speaker 5: Democrats, you sold out the entire shutdown, not to get

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Speaker 2: Where in the art of war? Where hold on? Where?

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Speaker 2: Where in the art? Okay? I got it?

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Speaker 5: Sung Sue said, Never press your advantage.

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Speaker 2: It's unseemly. Fighting's hard, how about a snack?

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Speaker 1: While I disagree with him, his delivery is yes, he's

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have done. I probably would.

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Speaker 1: But if you end up with John Stewart lambasting you

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Speaker 3: I didn't convince them that they were in a terrible

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Speaker 1: Senators do whatever the hell they want. And you know,

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Speaker 1: a handful of them got together and said let's let's

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Speaker 1: saying to him. They don't care at all. They'll still

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Speaker 1: be in the Senate when he's gone, right, that's the

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