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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Browns, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill jonesols. As we start this edition of Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We think we're starting here, are we starting? There's talk? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think Bill, they turned your microphone on. I think
Speaker 1: Rob and Okay, Hi, Brian brought us on. Mickey Spagnola, Yeah, hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: Joining us in a moment will be Bill Jones and
Speaker 1: Rod Philip. You talking a little bit? I didn't say, Rob,
Speaker 1: didn't I? And did I slur it? Okayis well? You
Speaker 1: know what, By time your mike gets fixed, it'll be
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips there it is. Yeah, Yeah, Rob Phillips is back,
Speaker 1: and I'm on Rob Phillips microphone over here because I've
Speaker 1: got TV duty that I've got to do here. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's a victory Monday. You guys coms the microphones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go talk to each other here. All good.
Speaker 1: We are all good, and the Cowboys are all good.
Speaker 1: A four and old record The last four weeks for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever since they fell to three and five.
Speaker 1: And I think someone in here harkened back to Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's college days at Mississippi State when he in the
Speaker 1: locker room said something about he's never been three and
Speaker 1: five before in his life. And I went back and
Speaker 1: looked at Mississippi State and he was three and four
Speaker 1: at one point, and then he ran off twelve straight victories.
Speaker 1: That's when I predicted this team is going to have
Speaker 1: a parade in February with twelve straight wins, and they're
Speaker 1: on their way. Mickey, I don't know that they need
Speaker 1: twelve for that to happen. Well, they didn't know we
Speaker 1: did the math off. You did, because they did. They
Speaker 1: got the first four and then they got four in December,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna assume they're not gonna have a first
Speaker 1: round buying the playoffs, and that would be four in
Speaker 1: January ending in Atlanta. If you got the parade, I'm
Speaker 1: dready I'm debating whether to do Arlington or downtown Dallas.
Speaker 1: Get all of North Texas involved, that's right. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I as giddy as Jerry was last night, you know what,
Speaker 1: And and good for him, Good for him that that
Speaker 1: was a that's a tough team to play, and we
Speaker 1: all knew that going into that game. And he's made
Speaker 1: some moves. I mean, you look at what they did
Speaker 1: to get Cooper and to change the offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: and and then you know, draft a guy like Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith too, you know. I mean he's made a lot
Speaker 1: of moves. And yeah, there were three and five at
Speaker 1: one time. But you have to have players to beat
Speaker 1: that team you beat last night, and they had enough players,
Speaker 1: and your players were good enough to go toe to
Speaker 1: toe with them. And I think that's a credit to
Speaker 1: the front office, to the coaching staff. They had a
Speaker 1: great game plan. Defensively, they harassed Drew Breese all night.
Speaker 1: I was really really impressed how they were able to
Speaker 1: pull that one off. Absolutely, Um who predicted thirteen ten?
Speaker 1: I just transcribed it transposed, transposed, sorry, r inscribed. I
Speaker 1: had thirty thirty one. Yeah, so you were half right.
Speaker 1: I mean you picked a win, but you thought that
Speaker 1: you thought they'd have to score thirty plus points like
Speaker 1: the rest of America. When you get older, you know,
Speaker 1: you get the lexic and things. I could create new words, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: transcribe and this like this leg No, you get this
Speaker 1: lexic doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Yet I
Speaker 1: knew exactly what I was talking about because you correctly
Speaker 1: so go on young man Um. Back when they made
Speaker 1: the Amari Cooper trade, I said they did it because
Speaker 1: the way this defense has been playing the early part
Speaker 1: of the season, you could argue that's a championship level
Speaker 1: defense at that point, that hey, they could go in
Speaker 1: the playoffs in January and win games the way they're
Speaker 1: holding teams to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen points. And Brian astutely
Speaker 1: pointed out at that point they still had some tough
Speaker 1: offenses to play. Well. Now they've played Atlanta. Absolutely, Now
Speaker 1: they've played a team averaging thirty seven points a game, right,
Speaker 1: and you hold them twenty seven points under their average.
Speaker 1: That's as good as it gets. And Jerry could barely
Speaker 1: get words out. Yeah. Outside the locker room after the game,
Speaker 1: he was shaking. Yeah, he was so excited, and he said,
Speaker 1: they exceeded my expectations and by far, that's this is
Speaker 1: the best defense and maybe not statistically that the Saints
Speaker 1: had played all season, especially judging by that performance DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence vander esh Smith, those DB's making plays on the ball.
Speaker 1: Asked them, Yeah, Jerry asked them to play the super
Speaker 1: Bowl level every play. Mickey pointed at out to you
Speaker 1: the other day before this game started, and you know,
Speaker 1: he said, hey, you have to go out there and
Speaker 1: play every play like it's the Super Bowl. And they
Speaker 1: sure did. The way the early part of that game
Speaker 1: where they were denying the football, the way they were
Speaker 1: able to get pressure in the middle with Woods and
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, the way that you know, hey,
Speaker 1: they had some bumps along the road, but you play
Speaker 1: a team like that, you're gonna have some bump. But
Speaker 1: they just didn't have a lot of bumps. Yeah. Drew
Speaker 1: breesens thorn for one hundred and twenty seven yards. He
Speaker 1: does that in the first two drives of a game.
Speaker 1: He threw for one twenty against Minnesota. They won that game.
Speaker 1: And I stopped at two thousand and six trying to
Speaker 1: find another lower total. And I don't think he finished
Speaker 1: that start. He only had like forty six yards in
Speaker 1: some game in OH six. I don't think he set
Speaker 1: his feet perfectly until about the second half. The first
Speaker 1: drive of the second half. That was the fewest total
Speaker 1: yards they've had since two thousand and two, Yeah, two
Speaker 1: thousand and two. Yeah, Saints collectively. Yes. Wow, it was
Speaker 1: just it was just a brilliant game plan and it
Speaker 1: was so well executed. It really was. And you think
Speaker 1: about how it could have been even it could have
Speaker 1: been even better. You know, Randy greg and if you
Speaker 1: go back, when you guys go back and watch Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory wasn't lined up off sides. He really wasn't. And
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm not trying to get on the fish.
Speaker 1: Let me just finish on this one and make if
Speaker 1: I could before you go into the white hat rant.
Speaker 1: I think that, like I said, that's one of those
Speaker 1: things where you have to sit there. You know that
Speaker 1: that is to me watching it is you see worse.
Speaker 1: You see far worse than the games. But you know,
Speaker 1: for the way that they were able to get that
Speaker 1: the games they ran up front the way and let's
Speaker 1: be honest that that Saints offensive line only minus their
Speaker 1: left tackle, that's a that's a team that'd only given
Speaker 1: up ten eleven sacks, and and and they they looked
Speaker 1: like a team, you know, Dallas gave up their traditional
Speaker 1: seven sacks for the game. You know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But you said which offensive line looked the far worse
Speaker 1: in this game, You'd probably have to say the Saints
Speaker 1: offensive line look where even though Dallas got seven sacks
Speaker 1: against them, But that was that was prepressive. That really
Speaker 1: really you if you want to, if you want to
Speaker 1: go out and beat people and get recognition and talk
Speaker 1: about being a top flight defense, go out and beat
Speaker 1: some team like that offensively, beat them up and you
Speaker 1: get recognition around this league. We're ready for the white
Speaker 1: hat rant, white hat rant. He's right on the neutral
Speaker 1: zone and this is white hat rant music for this.
Speaker 1: Guess what what the flag? I'm looking at the replay.
Speaker 1: The flag doesn't come out until the forced fumble. That's
Speaker 1: when he threw the flag. I thought it was It
Speaker 1: was funny because it was thrown from the Dallas sideline. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that was it was number sixty eight, by the way,
Speaker 1: and cursing him right now row yeah yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you can see it. He dropped some serious bombs, the
Speaker 1: f bomb on him and he was walking right by.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And the flag did not come If you're
Speaker 1: in the neutral zone, as soon as the ball snap,
Speaker 1: you throw your flag, right. You don't wait till the
Speaker 1: balls bouncing around on the field. What's the guy thinking about? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's he looking at? He wasn't offsides, he was not, No,
Speaker 1: because the way if you look at the ball is
Speaker 1: on the hash and and the center Unger's got the
Speaker 1: ball in the hash and Randy's hand is on the
Speaker 1: other side of the line. So there was a blue
Speaker 1: line there. Yeah, the ball was on the saint side
Speaker 1: of the blue line. Absolutely, his hand was on the
Speaker 1: boy side of the blue line. So there was a
Speaker 1: middle there. Yeah, there was there was room. And I've
Speaker 1: seen what was neutral. I've seen far worse. But why
Speaker 1: why does it like it was a delayed reaction of
Speaker 1: throwing the flag as soon as the ball snap throw it?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys, this was this another one
Speaker 1: of those games where Dallas really kicked their ass and
Speaker 1: then the scoreboard didn't show them kicking their asses. You know,
Speaker 1: if if Dak were on Internet radio, so I guess
Speaker 1: I could say that, yes you can. If Dak Press
Speaker 1: got hit Michael Gallop deep down the right sideline, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's over three hundred yards in the game. Probably, it's
Speaker 1: probably got about a one fifty QB rating for the game.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the score is looking even at its twenty
Speaker 1: to ten, twenty to ten, but how many other times
Speaker 1: another one you make a trip down there in the
Speaker 1: red zone and have to kick a field goal. You
Speaker 1: know that that's getting old. I mean, they won the game,
Speaker 1: but my gosh, that's getting old. I mean just think
Speaker 1: if you, if you could, you could help this defense
Speaker 1: even more with some of that stuff. If time and
Speaker 1: nine trips inside the ten. That was what was funny
Speaker 1: about the first half, I thought was you talked about
Speaker 1: they had to play nearly perfect football, right, you think
Speaker 1: about what they did in that first half. They held
Speaker 1: the ball for over twenty minutes out of thirty, grind
Speaker 1: out the clock, you're stopping them defensively, great drive off
Speaker 1: your own goal line, and two field goals, perfect field
Speaker 1: goals by your kicker were really the only blemishes of
Speaker 1: the half because you kept thinking they can't they can't
Speaker 1: get away with this, and it's gonna come back to
Speaker 1: get them in the second half. Yeah, and you're sitting
Speaker 1: there looking at it, going okay, it's ten nothing, and
Speaker 1: you make one mistake, it's ten to seven. That's all
Speaker 1: game on r That's what start Joe Bucks said at halftime.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, and then they and then they ended
Speaker 1: up be snarky you know this that he gives you
Speaker 1: that smuggy I'm Joe fuck, you know, and then they
Speaker 1: end up and you don't know, they end up holding
Speaker 1: the ball for thirty seven minutes in the game to
Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes. Yeah, yeah, that's that's what the Saints
Speaker 1: are supposed to do. That was the plan though, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to score, you want to score, touch,
Speaker 1: finish drive, but you want to keep them off the fields. Yeah, yeah, great,
Speaker 1: I mean I just I just can't get over how
Speaker 1: in f they made the Saints look. Yes, and that's pressure,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's knocking you. You talk about what's what's
Speaker 1: the written? You gotta knock Drew Breese around, and then
Speaker 1: Mickey comes at you with they're giving up ten sacks.
Speaker 1: This here, Brian, you know you want to say, that's
Speaker 1: what's your key to the game. You gotta knock Drew
Speaker 1: Brees around. Okay, they've got up with ten sacks. How
Speaker 1: are you gonna do that? Yeah? But they did, Yeah
Speaker 1: they did. They got after Drew Brees when they made him.
Speaker 1: Will McClay and the scouting staff too, some of those
Speaker 1: guys that the Cowboys have in there on that defensive line,
Speaker 1: the human log you know, and Collins he is there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were. They affected the middle of the pocket, got
Speaker 1: in yeahs to five eleven. Quarterback Micky's play a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got to go do TV Vicky Nicky to tell
Speaker 1: no one came by and wait the flowering Scott Purcell.
Speaker 1: He did Hi sign be great Bill as always, Mickey
Speaker 1: interviewed Jason Garrett after the game last night. So what
Speaker 1: you have to do? I have to go. We got
Speaker 1: to cover for you. Now. We spent our whole career
Speaker 1: covering for that man. When you're talking at no one
Speaker 1: covered for me ever, Yeah, no one ever, no one ever. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Bill is about to go do it and they do it.
Speaker 1: They couldn't cover me on the field. Well, I'll be
Speaker 1: back in here, okay, I'll just be doing I take
Speaker 1: something for about twenty minutes. I do appreciate that, though,
Speaker 1: I'm expecting as long as I can knock it out
Speaker 1: with one take on everything, of course you're gonna knock
Speaker 1: it out. I know. Mickey did the hard work, all right.
Speaker 1: It was easy after a win like that, right, Thank goodness, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got your ref rant and already like we're
Speaker 1: rolling along here, we're in good shape. We get you
Speaker 1: one more. No, No, it's okay. We won this game.
Speaker 1: This game, they didn't call on that Dak. When I
Speaker 1: talked to him after the game, I think I told
Speaker 1: you this last night is Jim Strap was on his nose.
Speaker 1: Guess what the guy reached in so far? He said,
Speaker 1: lip was bleeding. Yeah, boy, Dak was a bloody mess
Speaker 1: hand elbow. He had all kinds of step going on.
Speaker 1: Man cut his non throwing hand. He also had a
Speaker 1: scab come off his elbow. He said he was whea
Speaker 1: was on his none of his elbow was completely covered
Speaker 1: in blood. His his white sleeves on. And I think
Speaker 1: it was on one of those runs he had, by
Speaker 1: the way, with a couple of guts he runs he made.
Speaker 1: He made three guys miss in the open field. We
Speaker 1: want to be a linebacker too, dragged a guy three
Speaker 1: yards from first down. Zeke did a lot of that
Speaker 1: too last night. I want to find your your next
Speaker 1: gen stats yards after contact for Zeke because I mean
Speaker 1: he was carrying guys with him. Yeah, I think on
Speaker 1: full displolling call killed us up. I keep saying us,
Speaker 1: it's them, They're they're playing well. But that the holding
Speaker 1: call on Looney that wiped out a first down right there.
Speaker 1: It was a tough run to you know, and it
Speaker 1: set them back and all that. So, yeah, that's part
Speaker 1: of it. That's that's tough right there, man, when you
Speaker 1: get you know that they couldn't afford that, even though
Speaker 1: they overcame it. You know, they get a first down
Speaker 1: and then they get called Looney gets Is that the
Speaker 1: one that they said? It was Collins and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: get it right, Yeah, committed he did. But when I
Speaker 1: watched Collins, I going, are you serious? Yeah, Collins didn't
Speaker 1: get his block at all. He was trying to get
Speaker 1: the guy from behind. Yeah I was. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: another one, white hand rant, uh that the non passenger
Speaker 1: ference calling. If you go back and watch the tape,
Speaker 1: the field judge is reaching for his flag and he
Speaker 1: can't get it out of his belt. Which one is that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the touchdown, the field judge is literally going for his flag.
Speaker 1: He's running sideways, going flag, flag, flag, he can't reach it,
Speaker 1: and then he by by the time the ball is caught,
Speaker 1: then the other officials signaling touchdown and he just mosey's
Speaker 1: on through the play, Kirkwood, because he gave a little,
Speaker 1: he gave a show, gave the fuel. Judge. The guy
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field was going to call.
Speaker 1: I think that's the fuel judge, back judge, he's gonna
Speaker 1: make the call. You can clearly see him on tape
Speaker 1: reaching for his flag and then he doesn't throw the
Speaker 1: flag because he can't get it out of his belt.
Speaker 1: A nudge Dave in the press boxes, and I think
Speaker 1: he got away with one there. Even even Ferrera said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta call that. Yeah, yeah, Well I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: Like I say, one more thing, Brob. I know Sean
Speaker 1: Payton now coached himself last night so well with the
Speaker 1: challenges and stuff like that, like yeah, early challenges, and
Speaker 1: he didn't leave him with the Beasley thing. Was clearly
Speaker 1: two yards short Beasley on the third down catch. At
Speaker 1: the end of the game, he had no challenges left.
Speaker 1: He was clearly short on that play, you know. And
Speaker 1: if he'd have challenged that, then he would have forced
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett to have to make a fourth and one call,
Speaker 1: which I think you'd probably gone forth there. But he
Speaker 1: was But that was a that was a key point.
Speaker 1: That was a first down. The Saints had no challenges,
Speaker 1: the fact he went for it on fourth down on
Speaker 1: his own goal on the on the Dallas, you know.
Speaker 1: And tremendous plays by those guys up from Jalen Smith though,
Speaker 1: and I've talked about him earlier. Jalen Smith tackle on
Speaker 1: Kamara to keep him out of the end zone. Huge play.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's stirred down and it's like Kamara
Speaker 1: is like Byron Jones misses him and here's here's Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith comes flying from the middle of the field. He
Speaker 1: tackles Kamara to keep him from the going. Now it
Speaker 1: sets the fourth in two and lombhole. What do they do?
Speaker 1: They stop him? Then on fourth and one, fourth one
Speaker 1: Kamara stopped. Crawford is there and I think Lawrence again,
Speaker 1: Lawrence coming across the Collins, Oh, Vander esh Collins, Smith, Crawford.
Speaker 1: They all played square and I'm guessing everybody was a
Speaker 1: plotting Seawan for going forward instead of kicking a field
Speaker 1: goal and you lost by three. Great job two by
Speaker 1: Lawrence coming from the back side. They didn't block him.
Speaker 1: They had like a stunt on and it was a great.
Speaker 1: That was a great play because even if Breeze would
Speaker 1: have pulled the ball, you had Xavier Woods over the
Speaker 1: top in case it was going to be one of
Speaker 1: those those read option bits. So good job, good defense
Speaker 1: understanding what the Saints potentially we're gonna do. So going
Speaker 1: back to that Beasley deal, I'm trying to replay it
Speaker 1: in my head. He runs the in and out round. Yeah, almost,
Speaker 1: and he almost down and he dove for the first down.
Speaker 1: His knee was Did somebody hit him though? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I didn't think he got tackled. He was dying. He was.
Speaker 1: He was the reason why the official gave him the
Speaker 1: favorable spot, just because he dove and lunged the ball forward.
Speaker 1: If he just kind of falls down, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: probably a yard short, but his knee, he gets tackled
Speaker 1: where his right knee hits and then he's he's going forward.
Speaker 1: But it was it was a good yard and a
Speaker 1: half two yards short. I thought, you know on the
Speaker 1: goal line stand that we just talked about second quarter,
Speaker 1: keeping the Saints out of the end zone. Dak was
Speaker 1: asked about it after the game and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those plays where you feel like, all right,
Speaker 1: we got this, and not that the game's over at
Speaker 1: that point, but the way our defense is playing tonight,
Speaker 1: the way we're playing tonight, the juice we've got, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna be denied tonight. And that was kind of
Speaker 1: a that was a signature playing the game. Great job
Speaker 1: of Dak and then getting off the goal line though, Jeff's,
Speaker 1: uh my guy, Blake Jarwin, Blake Jarwin and he doesn't
Speaker 1: catch anything because it's third down, right, yeah, it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: and they flipped the ball to him in the flat
Speaker 1: and he and he's presence of mind to catch it,
Speaker 1: turned up field, get the first down. I mean, those
Speaker 1: are the kinds of play we were we were trying
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, you know, our guy man of the match,
Speaker 1: picked the click. Whatever you want to talk about. It was.
Speaker 1: You could talk about forty six guys. Everybody had a
Speaker 1: turn at the bat yesterday. Do you know there's guys
Speaker 1: that hadn't had really they gone six weeks without doing something,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they make a play and
Speaker 1: you're like, went, ah, that's that guy. That's Blake Jarwin.
Speaker 1: Catch the ball, get up field, get a first down.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Joe Looney on the on the Dak
Speaker 1: scramble on third down, the third and eleven, you know
Speaker 1: that the that they're able to convert, Joe Looney gets
Speaker 1: a great block to give Dack the opportunity to go.
Speaker 1: You know, those are things you just talk about again.
Speaker 1: Have about credit to the offensive line. They're playing with
Speaker 1: three backups, Rob. I think you said this in the
Speaker 1: pregame show. I think you said this, backup center, backup,
Speaker 1: left guard, backup left tackle. You know, think about that,
Speaker 1: and they gave up seven sacks. Yeah, but and the quarterback.
Speaker 1: When you guys go back and watch it, the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: he's got to do a little bit better job of
Speaker 1: anticipating some stuff. Now, not all of them are on
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but he heard them. A couple It was
Speaker 1: hard to tell from the press box, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like a couple of them. It's like
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta feel your wait, watch WAITCHI watch and
Speaker 1: see and you'll say, oh gosh. But there were seven
Speaker 1: of them. Five of them were you know, bad ones.
Speaker 1: Two of them probably on the quarterback. But you know,
Speaker 1: the poise the Dack showed. Andy and Mickey pointed us
Speaker 1: out bloody mess out there playing yea walk into the
Speaker 1: car last night from the press box. Uh, he had
Speaker 1: four inn completions, yeah, twenty, shame on him, and one
Speaker 1: of him was one of him was down the right sideline.
Speaker 1: They were trying to throw the bomb. Then gall the
Speaker 1: gall It missed on two deep balls. Remember the one
Speaker 1: they wanted threw out a bounce, yeah, and then the
Speaker 1: other one. I just thought Gallbert could have made a
Speaker 1: more aggressive try for the ball. You know what happened, though, Mickey,
Speaker 1: when you watch it, you're gonna see he wants to
Speaker 1: throw the ball in the double move to Cooper on
Speaker 1: the other side. And then he came to me and
Speaker 1: he came back and it was and by the time
Speaker 1: he got back he probably wasn't sure how far he
Speaker 1: threw the ball more in a line, he threw it
Speaker 1: more on a He said, I should have put more yeah,
Speaker 1: and and but he his eyes came back late over there.
Speaker 1: He wanted to hit he now, by hey, speaking of
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, all eight of his receptions were against that
Speaker 1: their best corner. Now think about more. Think about that.
Speaker 1: And we were all worried. Brian brought excuse me, was
Speaker 1: worried about you know, pregame, he's saying, well, if they
Speaker 1: travel out of more, this could be difficult for him.
Speaker 1: I don't see it being nah. Eight catches and it
Speaker 1: was almost on the other side. Early it was like
Speaker 1: where's Eli Apple? Yeah, oh no, you know they were
Speaker 1: looking for him. This that's good. That's good football, right,
Speaker 1: And this is another indication that when you see a
Speaker 1: trade made, Yeah, don't just think of a name. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why the Giants got rid of that guy.
Speaker 1: Ye beat him in week He's not that good. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got rid of him. He's been pretty good for them.
Speaker 1: And Amari Cooper, he was traded here was pain in
Speaker 1: the ass for the Giants. They've been happy with his
Speaker 1: production overall since said that we got a Marie Cooper. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a reason he was available, and he's
Speaker 1: been pretty darn good for this team. Right. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think he was a pain in the Raiders side.
Speaker 1: The head coaches, head catch just didn't like them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's for some reason. This is two games in
Speaker 1: a row with eight eight eight receptions, right, But they
Speaker 1: were all against that's the thing. It was all against
Speaker 1: their best corner and so now is a tremendous corner.
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden you're sitting there going, Okay,
Speaker 1: whoever they put on him, he can get open. Don't
Speaker 1: don't think that Amari Cooper can't get open it make
Speaker 1: plays because he can and and and the ball he lost,
Speaker 1: that's the weirdest fumble I've ever seen. The guys me
Speaker 1: knocks it out. He's holding in his hand. Way caught it, yeah,
Speaker 1: way a way. Eight targets for Amari Cooper, eight catches
Speaker 1: seventy five yards. That's Michael Thomas like numbers right there,
Speaker 1: that is that is and the leading receiver for New
Speaker 1: Orleans Kamara eight catches for thirty six yards. Just tremendous
Speaker 1: John runs. Did he have eleven for thirty seventy two
Speaker 1: total yards? Long of seven? Yeah, you would trade that
Speaker 1: all day. You told me Alvin Kamar is only gonna
Speaker 1: get seventy two. He gets seventy two yards on one play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I broke down a play of the pregame show where
Speaker 1: Breeze put him out wide. They threw it on on
Speaker 1: the safety from the Jenkins from safety from the Eagles.
Speaker 1: It went for a huge play. Kamara and Zeke each
Speaker 1: had three point three yards of carrying. It was tough
Speaker 1: sledding for Zeke at some points in the game, and
Speaker 1: they kind of limped off at one point. He's banged
Speaker 1: up right now. Yeah, but he I mean he has
Speaker 1: dirty yards in that game as well. Though. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: This this barbaric way that the NFL makes the Cowboys
Speaker 1: play these three games. You know, it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough on the running back. He Zeke
Speaker 1: never missed his practice. You know, he takes all his reps.
Speaker 1: You know, he goes in and people say, oh, he
Speaker 1: looks slow, he looks you know, No, he's he's physically
Speaker 1: this man is beat up, you know. But he'll get stronger.
Speaker 1: We'll get him in December and he'll be you know,
Speaker 1: he'll get stronger for you. They've got a mini buy
Speaker 1: coming up. They get three wins in eleven days. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Zeke had one hundred and thirty six
Speaker 1: total yards and a touchdown in the game. Not bad
Speaker 1: at all. His numbers over seven hundred now for that
Speaker 1: for the what was it for the three games stretch?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry making somebody do some math here. I don't
Speaker 1: know enough the top of Yeah, if you think of
Speaker 1: total yards for that three game stretch, it's gets looking
Speaker 1: at that. Think that if I remember correctly, he was
Speaker 1: at like three eighty or three ninety, yeah there for
Speaker 1: the three games. That's so he's he's close to four
Speaker 1: fifty like that. And a lot of what he did
Speaker 1: was pushing the pile. Yeah, they couldn't knock him back.
Speaker 1: He was, he was, he was knocking him four backups
Speaker 1: and yeah, and he was, and he was doing his
Speaker 1: thing where he finds a way to kind of slither
Speaker 1: for an extra yard or two. You know, he's even
Speaker 1: slipping down, he kind of which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: think that's run its course. It needs to be two
Speaker 1: backups now, two backups. Yeah, Okay, Connor Williams needs to
Speaker 1: get back at left. All right, Well, let's discuss that
Speaker 1: when we come back, and let's continue breaking down this.
Speaker 1: You know, it's tremendous victory for the Cowboys thirteen to
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Speaker 1: thirteen to ten. I don't think anybody saw that coming.
Speaker 1: We had some victories predicted on this show. I was
Speaker 1: not one of them. Although I said they would bring it,
Speaker 1: and they did. The defense really brought it. You mentioned
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis did coming out of the break. That's a
Speaker 1: guy that has not played a lot of football defensively
Speaker 1: for this team. He's been on offense a little bit too.
Speaker 1: Um more dime in this game, big play late. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he still didn't play a lot of football. You know
Speaker 1: how many plays he was in for eight really felt
Speaker 1: like a lot more than that. He could have made
Speaker 1: the most of his eight play. He could have had
Speaker 1: two interceptions in that game. If you think about it,
Speaker 1: remember early in the first series, Breeze just kind of
Speaker 1: flips the ball out there and Kamar's not really looking
Speaker 1: for that. Ball's got a little bit more pace on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interception if it's high enough that
Speaker 1: you might have a pick six at an interception, a tackle,
Speaker 1: and a pass broke up. Yeah, so three for eight,
Speaker 1: not bad, three winning plays. See that's what that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about earlier, you know, guys like you know
Speaker 1: you guys, Blake Charwin, Jordan Lewis, you know, read at
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Yeah. No, one's happy to see the ky.
Speaker 1: He probably just sold out. Yeah, yeah, sold out. Did
Speaker 1: they have a postgame show after? Oh yeah, oh yeah
Speaker 1: they did calmed down or not at all? Not at all?
Speaker 1: See what was not at all good for him? So
Speaker 1: so yeah, let's remember, let's go back. Remember everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to trade Jordan Lewis number one, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people were all over Blake Jarwin. These guys are young,
Speaker 1: they hadn't played a lot of football in the National
Speaker 1: Football League, and you can't start just okay, this guy's
Speaker 1: no good. I'm interested now to hear your opinion of
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. I still think he put a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on Drew Breeze. Yeah, and if you go back
Speaker 1: and look at the thing he was getting held when
Speaker 1: he hit the face mask. No, no, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: on the punt team. What's he doing out there on
Speaker 1: the punt team? Punt safe? Punt safe. You're just wasn't safe.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a take a playoff. Make
Speaker 1: sure they don't fake it. I think Randy was just
Speaker 1: Randy kind of get caught up in the moment and
Speaker 1: got a good rush and you know, because he breezed
Speaker 1: right by the guy. He did. And the problem with
Speaker 1: that is though, that's the last thing. That was the
Speaker 1: drive where they had two penalties on Byron Jones, which
Speaker 1: were legitimate, and then you had that you know that
Speaker 1: right there, that's just killing. When it happens, you're thinking,
Speaker 1: is this going to be the play we talked about?
Speaker 1: My gosh Friday morning, Yeah, I was. I was sitting
Speaker 1: there and as it happened, you know, I saw just
Speaker 1: watching at the Star here, I saw the four. I
Speaker 1: thought it was Lance Lenore. I mean literally I lost
Speaker 1: my mind because that happened in Atlanta. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just just a specialty. I thought Lancelinoor for some
Speaker 1: reason came flying off the edge and was trying to
Speaker 1: block a punt on a punt safe and I I
Speaker 1: you thought that Rod Marinelli was cussing. You should have
Speaker 1: heard me and Nate and they found out it was
Speaker 1: Randy and I'm like so, and you're thinking, god's a
Speaker 1: punt safe. You're not even supposed to rush, You're supposed
Speaker 1: to just make sure they don't fake it on you.
Speaker 1: Did you see what the camera caught Keith O'Quinn pointing
Speaker 1: in his head, you know what I was kind of
Speaker 1: thinking it was pointing to Keith o quinn, like, why
Speaker 1: do you have him out there? You know? That's a
Speaker 1: good question, Yeah, because I don't remember seeing him out
Speaker 1: there like that. Yeah, but it's that's coming off the corner.
Speaker 1: Defensive stay is what they call that. Just they hold
Speaker 1: their hands up say defensive stay. They make sure that
Speaker 1: the balls being punted and you're into the field don't
Speaker 1: do anything stupid. And Randy just I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help him here, but I can't help
Speaker 1: him because that's the one thing that we were talking
Speaker 1: about leading up to this game. You gotta play smart.
Speaker 1: Sure he played the Saints, you gotta play smart. And
Speaker 1: that just was so after what they had been through
Speaker 1: to get you know, to get a stop, you know,
Speaker 1: and and you're gonna get the ball back and to
Speaker 1: give them another opportunity was just it was just it
Speaker 1: was just I don't know the correct words. More Stead's Uh,
Speaker 1: it could have been really deflating. It could have and
Speaker 1: they scored off that play. Yeah, so yeah, you thought
Speaker 1: it could have chat helped him get their touchdown. More
Speaker 1: Stead's applying for a double time because he had to
Speaker 1: punk four times time and a half. No, Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 1: He's gone, like three games. We had twenty four punts
Speaker 1: in eleven games. It's basically to a game earning that pitch. O. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had to work. Let's let's hit the phone lines, fellas.
Speaker 1: Where are we going Josh in Florida, Europe? First on
Speaker 1: talking cowboys. How's it going, guys? Josh, were driving a truck?
Speaker 1: Somebody cuts you off? Josh, No, no, no, I'm actually
Speaker 1: park Okay, good all this stuff. First, I want to
Speaker 1: say it's an honor talking to all of you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you, the gurus of football and all this stuff on.
Speaker 1: Um after all good things. UM. I honestly think that
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has been way more efficient, uh in these
Speaker 1: last couple of games. I mean yeah, from what it
Speaker 1: seems if you were like a normal fan watching the game,
Speaker 1: like some of the plays that he's missed, like oh man,
Speaker 1: Jack Prescot's not doing it very well, but when you
Speaker 1: look at the stats, it's twenty four twenty eight. I
Speaker 1: believe that. Yah. So I was wondering if if any
Speaker 1: of you guys can like break down like all of
Speaker 1: those missus because I think some of those missus weren't
Speaker 1: on him at all. And going to the defensive side.
Speaker 1: You guys were already talking about or Randy Gregory, like
Speaker 1: those two penalties were crucial, But I had this feeling
Speaker 1: i throughout the game that Randy Gregory was elite um
Speaker 1: in a way. You know, he was getting to the
Speaker 1: quarterback just the way he just gets off his breaks,
Speaker 1: It's like phenomenal. So I was wondering if you guys
Speaker 1: can talk about those two subjects and they I know
Speaker 1: you guys already hit on them already, but I was
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out, like, um, what's the reason
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott being more efficient? Because I understand the
Speaker 1: old line, but as you said before, he has a
Speaker 1: backup center, backup left guard, and a backup left left tockle,
Speaker 1: So what other things is it? Scheme wise? Or you
Speaker 1: guys to sit up on that. That'll be great. Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks for the Colt. So in the previous three games
Speaker 1: that they won, he had completed seventy percent of his
Speaker 1: passes and then he goes out there and hits at
Speaker 1: eighty five percent. Yeah, eight almost well, actually eight eighty
Speaker 1: six percent. Yep. So Mark Cooper helps what what did
Speaker 1: what did you say? Eight targets, eight catches perfect? Yep.
Speaker 1: But Mickey, I'll give you credit to and Rob will
Speaker 1: give you credit to. Young man from Colorado State had
Speaker 1: five receptions for seventy six. I know, a loong of forty.
Speaker 1: But he made some really good plays as well. You
Speaker 1: guys have asked for him to play, and I think
Speaker 1: what's happening with him is Amari Cooper's finding ways to
Speaker 1: get open, Michael Gallup's finding ways to get open. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is you know when he it's when the throws
Speaker 1: are in front of him and he's able to make
Speaker 1: him he can make those throws, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think that's been a big, big part. He's he's really focused.
Speaker 1: In the misses he had. We talked about him earlier.
Speaker 1: Two of them were deep balls. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of the other two misses that he had that threw
Speaker 1: a couple away right, yeah, And I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of there was a one when he was under pressure
Speaker 1: and just try to you know, I just again, when
Speaker 1: you only have four misses, you should be able to
Speaker 1: come up with all four. But I know two of
Speaker 1: them were down the field, and one of them was
Speaker 1: an over overthrow of Gallop that could have been, like
Speaker 1: you said, Rob could have put him over three hundred
Speaker 1: and could have really put this game away. So he
Speaker 1: missed Beasley on that first drive. It was first intended
Speaker 1: that he had pressure on any pressure, right, and he
Speaker 1: bounced it to him right, yeah, Yeah, And you know
Speaker 1: you see the gallop play forty yards early. You know
Speaker 1: he's done this before. He kind of gets he kind
Speaker 1: of sets the tone offensively with a big play the
Speaker 1: young receiver and just getting off press coverage, free release,
Speaker 1: and the guy couldn't Eli couldn't stay with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the double move, the double move waits. You
Speaker 1: see the double move that he put on Apple, Apple
Speaker 1: completely broke down. You know that's why. And you know
Speaker 1: gallop and you're figuring a young guy. But I just
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed by the way that these receivers and
Speaker 1: you know, Cole Beasley, you know he Cole Beasley had
Speaker 1: another one of those games where it wasn't huge numbers,
Speaker 1: but he had two receptions and he had in his
Speaker 1: long was for five yards and the five yard play
Speaker 1: he had was a killer for the Saints. That was
Speaker 1: the third down and that he converted. Ye, you know,
Speaker 1: and if Cole Beasley, I'm sure he wants bigger, better
Speaker 1: numbers and he had bigger, better numbers before they had
Speaker 1: Michael Gallopy excuse before they had a Maury Cooper here.
Speaker 1: But as I think, as long as you're winning football games,
Speaker 1: you know, he has to be happy about that. That
Speaker 1: was third and five from the fifty five fifty four
Speaker 1: left in the game, and now you're starting to chew
Speaker 1: the clock, and then with about three and two minutes later,
Speaker 1: the Saints start using their time out. Yeah, exactly, see,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing of bad. They had no challenge there,
Speaker 1: so he gets the first down and now you're really
Speaker 1: is you know, those are gut those are gut plays
Speaker 1: right there. You look, you know those Saints were three
Speaker 1: of eleven on third down. That's unheard of for them.
Speaker 1: And you're you're at fifty percent again, Mickey, right, you
Speaker 1: were telling me if the last three victories here, it's
Speaker 1: been damn near what forty eight fifty percent? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you click along at fifty percent, you're gonna win
Speaker 1: some games. The problem though, right now, they need to
Speaker 1: finish some of these damn drives, you know, like the
Speaker 1: first drive of the game. You know, they need to
Speaker 1: finish that. Can't get down there inside the five and
Speaker 1: jack around and not get points that way. I want
Speaker 1: to say. I want to say, at one point I
Speaker 1: thought they were talking about he had completed like he
Speaker 1: holds the record now he's the all time team seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he holds the Cowboy record now for seventeen consecutive
Speaker 1: completed passes. And you have Hall of famers, Roger Staubach,
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, you had Tony I mean, he had great
Speaker 1: players play here, seventeen in a row for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that just he's a gamer.
Speaker 1: You tell him he can't do this and do that,
Speaker 1: and just kind of keeps grinding away. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what this team has done. He's he's deficient in
Speaker 1: some areas, but some of the areas that he's deficient,
Speaker 1: he makes up, which is just being a badass when
Speaker 1: it comes to trying to get first downs, trying to compete.
Speaker 1: Tremendous efforts, tremendous effort. He's not perfect mechanically, his feet
Speaker 1: or bad, his body's positions bad at times. But when
Speaker 1: things break down, and you know, he'll admit it that
Speaker 1: the sacks. He's got to do better. But the line
Speaker 1: has to do better too, you know, before we go
Speaker 1: to the receivers have to do Yeah, Mickey, I think
Speaker 1: you did. You hint it this before the first break
Speaker 1: um sue Philo and just how the line played. It
Speaker 1: is a patchwork line. Fleming starts for Tyring again. Tyrn
Speaker 1: did not play because of the stinger. Yeah, they figured
Speaker 1: out how to get Williams in the game. Hey yeah
Speaker 1: he did all right too. The play was in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but tidy to get him back in there. Well,
Speaker 1: so Philo was compromised. We follow up on that, caw No,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking because I'm interested in what you're saying.
Speaker 1: If if you know the coach is going to make
Speaker 1: a change when you're winning, when you're winning, and and
Speaker 1: we go back to the they didn't change Tony Romo
Speaker 1: out when Dak Prescott was winning games. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying sometimes not sometimes Brian coaches tend to
Speaker 1: go with what they know and they think, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're moving the ball. The sacks are alarming, but we're
Speaker 1: overcoming the sacks. You know. I don't disagree with Mickey,
Speaker 1: but I think that coaches tend to say, I am
Speaker 1: not gonna f this up because we're winning. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we're two and oh. Without Tyrn Smith in there, you're
Speaker 1: gonna leave camp. You know what. That's a fair argument.
Speaker 1: That's a very fair point. But but too But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I'm trying to agree with you, Mickey, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to think that coaches tend to say that.
Speaker 1: I know, and you're right, Yeah, like it is. Are
Speaker 1: the are the of the of the sixty five plays
Speaker 1: they run and Sue Philo is bad on five of them?
Speaker 1: Is that killing you? And I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: physically he was right. He played and he fought, but
Speaker 1: that ankle, he just I don't think he moved as
Speaker 1: well in this game as he has. Well, maybe it's
Speaker 1: time to let that ankle get healed. He's got ten
Speaker 1: days and Tyrone's got ten days, so we'll see what
Speaker 1: they look like against the Eagles on they want two
Speaker 1: one two without him when they went over in three
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, that's that's what I that's see. This
Speaker 1: is what they're smarter, right, Yes, this is where it looks.
Speaker 1: This is where it looks better for the Cowboys because
Speaker 1: and and I've been critical of them, and like, know
Speaker 1: your team. You know last year they didn't have good
Speaker 1: enough backups. What do they do? They went out and
Speaker 1: they went out and got a tackle that had actually
Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl started in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know. So, Camp, Hey, Camp, let's be honest. He
Speaker 1: does doesn't look good all the time. He's scary, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Somebody told me in training camp,
Speaker 1: they said, don't judge him by how it looks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: judge how his production is right, because somehow he gets
Speaker 1: it done. Because the guy can barely walk. I swear, no,
Speaker 1: he does it. It's it's hard to watch him move.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, he did a gun that's done.
Speaker 1: The zeke waits. You see the zeke screen. They went
Speaker 1: for the touchdown. They set it up so nice. They
Speaker 1: even got flaming out like they faked like they were
Speaker 1: going to run the screen to Beasley going left and
Speaker 1: they you know, and they dummied it and got everybody.
Speaker 1: He got Zach on the edge. Yeah, pancake block from Looney, right,
Speaker 1: Joe Looney on the crack back. Yeah, not bad Bill Jones.
Speaker 1: But let me just throw this. There's Bill Jude trying
Speaker 1: to get the building. His face is pressed against the
Speaker 1: window eighty six. He was kind of in Fleming's hip
Speaker 1: pocket the most of the game. Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've got I've gotten next, let's read already, you do it.
Speaker 1: Shannon's got it upstairs for me. It's a new one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I've got that one on the top of my head.
Speaker 1: We had the axe yet? Huh the axe? Who's not
Speaker 1: the axe? Oh? They're playing for the axe this weekend
Speaker 1: and sound like he said axe to me, have not
Speaker 1: heard an official list yet. They played for the axe
Speaker 1: at Berkeley. Yeah, it's the it's the Yes, Cowan stand
Speaker 1: the Big Game for postponed it because of the fires
Speaker 1: out there a couple of weeks ago. So what created
Speaker 1: them playing for an axe? The trees? I think because
Speaker 1: they want to chop down Stanford or what their trees? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the trees are the tree. Yeah, that's their bears and trees. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great logo, by the way, excellent. Well, thank god, k
Speaker 1: I thought they should play for the You know there
Speaker 1: are bears, right, Stanford and cow should play for the Tubus,
Speaker 1: shouldn't they? Because the Bears out of the man. That
Speaker 1: was one of the great all time games. It was
Speaker 1: love a call. You want to take a phone call
Speaker 1: and then you take us home. Okay, how about that
Speaker 1: sounds good? You got a phone call Michael in South Carolina.
Speaker 1: You're up next on Talking Cowboys. How's it going, guys?
Speaker 1: What games? Thank you? I was noticing you were talking
Speaker 1: about the incompletions of Dak Had and I've been critical
Speaker 1: of him, um, probably too critical just because he's such
Speaker 1: a young player, but he's definitely a gamer. Um. I
Speaker 1: noticed on the Beasley in completion, it looked like Beasley
Speaker 1: was late getting off the line and that probably threw
Speaker 1: off the timing of the past and maybe gard Us
Speaker 1: canna look at that and we'll see that on me up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it said just looked like he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: a split second, he was looking through the sideline and
Speaker 1: then when he looked back inside, I think he got
Speaker 1: held is I remember? Yeah, I know there was there
Speaker 1: was pressure. There was pressure there too at a late start.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, game man, the defense is out of
Speaker 1: their minds. I love it. Yeah, very good. You know
Speaker 1: what else was going on? They were holding Zeke trying
Speaker 1: to go out for passes. They were they were grabbing them,
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees had the nerve to say, well, they
Speaker 1: were holding every play. Well that's football, it's here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I read it. Drew Brees said they were holding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dbs, he said, yeah, it's happening in every play.
Speaker 1: Maybe Drew needs to move around a little bit better
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Yeah, not throw the ball just out
Speaker 1: there in the flat, you know, and just think something
Speaker 1: good's gonna happen, or throw side arm. Yeah. I love
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, but come on, man, like a little kid,
Speaker 1: take your ball, go home. Yeah, you know, don't beat
Speaker 1: that guy. Gave him credit for a big win. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there were miscalls on both sides. It happens. He said
Speaker 1: they were holding every chance they got good for them.
Speaker 1: And then he said they have some good dbs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he got his shot in there. Yeah, very clever.
Speaker 1: You know what his his his You know what, they
Speaker 1: brag so much. This is the first time in NFL
Speaker 1: history that four undrafted guys catch touchdown. They showed like
Speaker 1: they had four undrafted guys out there playing last night.
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like. Yeah, and when you're when
Speaker 1: your war daddy's not catching the football consistently, those four
Speaker 1: undrafted guys look like four undrafted guys. You know that.
Speaker 1: That's a lesson for you right there. What you got
Speaker 1: the newspaper? You know some headlines? What is that you're
Speaker 1: holding your hand? Yeah, not very many people. This is
Speaker 1: a newspaper, Okay, get into a newspaper. These are the
Speaker 1: headlines this morning. And the Star Telegram, which maybe I
Speaker 1: should I'll go ahead and say, we stopped our subscription
Speaker 1: a while back, but all of us Clarence was hating
Speaker 1: you right now all of a sudden, Well yeah, he
Speaker 1: hates me for other reasons right now, that long horn
Speaker 1: good point. But anyway, all of a sudden, we started
Speaker 1: receiving the Star Telegram on our doorstep. We walk it
Speaker 1: just showed up that store, took it from the guy
Speaker 1: with the blue Christmas lights. Statement made That was a
Speaker 1: Clarence Hill question. Whenn't yesterday did he ask dad? Statement
Speaker 1: dot made dot. It's not a period. It's a dot
Speaker 1: these days of us. All right, An, here's the morning
Speaker 1: news headline takes. That's pretty gad. They could have done
Speaker 1: better than that. That's pretty good, man, that's old news.
Speaker 1: It's you've been used before. Okay, all right, Kevin Sherrington's
Speaker 1: perfect goal now couldn't be more clear. Super Bowl, they're
Speaker 1: called tournament. He's supposed to be covering, and he still
Speaker 1: wants to coach fired. All right. I'm driving home last night. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had to do this. I had to do the
Speaker 1: show at the CBS eleven studio due to NFL rules
Speaker 1: that don't allow us local TV people to be live
Speaker 1: while the game's still going on at ten twenty. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's beside the point. So but he got it in there.
Speaker 1: When I'm leaving the studio, one of the production crew guys,
Speaker 1: Marcus Smith, says to me, well, I'm gonna listen to
Speaker 1: the talk shows on the way home. This ought to
Speaker 1: be fun to listen to. I said, no, they're gonna
Speaker 1: find something to complain about. Yeah, sure enough. I turn
Speaker 1: on one station and the first thing they're they're complaining
Speaker 1: to Jesse Holley. I don't know if Jesse complain on
Speaker 1: you now. And then I flipped to another one and
Speaker 1: they're complaining, and so what I went to music. You
Speaker 1: know what, who knows what they were complained? I mean,
Speaker 1: what can you find it? They were complaining about not
Speaker 1: scoring enough points. Oh my gosh, Yeah, they scored enough.
Speaker 1: That's key. They need to sure, they need to score
Speaker 1: more than thirty. Yeah, if you want to, if you
Speaker 1: want to, if you want to, Nick pick this thing.
Speaker 1: This is another one of those games. I believe that
Speaker 1: they kicked the other team's ass and the scoreboard didn't
Speaker 1: show that. It was the other one year it was
Speaker 1: at the Philadelphia, Yes, Philadelphia. They kicked Philadelphia's ass and
Speaker 1: it didn't show on the scoreboard. What people don't understand
Speaker 1: is these games in the NFL are hard to win, trust,
Speaker 1: And they think they kicked that ninety two and ninety
Speaker 1: three Cowboy team that won the championships won everything forty
Speaker 1: to ten and it was not easy. And that's why
Speaker 1: I said the other day, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I said it here. I said it on the pregame show.
Speaker 1: When you get in a game like this with New Orleans,
Speaker 1: there was a game I want to say it was
Speaker 1: either I think it was in ninety one maybe, and
Speaker 1: North Turner and I are walking down the breezeway at
Speaker 1: the ranch and he says, there's ways to win games
Speaker 1: like this, right, you just got to figure it out, right,
Speaker 1: and it may not be pretty, but you can win. Ye,
Speaker 1: And that's what this game was. The kind of figured
Speaker 1: it out. If they were able to hold him under thirty,
Speaker 1: they had a chance. That's just if you felt I
Speaker 1: felt like, if they could hold him in under thirty,
Speaker 1: I score had was twenty twenty four or something like that,
Speaker 1: but but I felt like that that's the only way
Speaker 1: that Dallas could have won this game. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Their defense got my attention. Their defense got
Speaker 1: my attention. The pressure. I was more impressed with the
Speaker 1: pressure that they were able to put on that Saint's
Speaker 1: offensive line. And you could see when you're able to
Speaker 1: put that kind of pressure on an offense. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just Yeah, Drew Brees wanted no part of and in
Speaker 1: there and throwing the football. He was he was on
Speaker 1: his scooter going backwards. He didn't look comfortable in the
Speaker 1: pocket now the opening drive of the second half, and
Speaker 1: he admitted they just were never in rhythm. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: The reason they weren't in rhythm had everything to do
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys were doing on defense. Chris Rashard. Rod Marinelli,
Speaker 1: by the way, you enjoy Chris Richard while you got
Speaker 1: him here. Yeah, you know, you know it's something too
Speaker 1: about that with christ And this is where you got
Speaker 1: to appreciate Rod Marinelli even more, the fact that he
Speaker 1: put his ego aside and let Chris Rashard come in here.
Speaker 1: You talk about a guy, it's a team You want
Speaker 1: to be a team player, Go be Rod Marinelli. You
Speaker 1: know these defensive corners that usually you get them, they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not you kidding. They bring a guy, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, I'm not helping that. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: he put his ego aside for the betterment of that
Speaker 1: defense and they work together and come up with plans
Speaker 1: and ideas. You know, tip of the cap to him
Speaker 1: for being the team player he is. And and it's
Speaker 1: it's not that that it minimizes what Rod Marinelli's him. Now,
Speaker 1: what's going on on that defense? He know you saw together, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you saw it. Rod Marinelli's ideas. He got those guys,
Speaker 1: sick them, go after that guy. You know, that was
Speaker 1: his that was his game plan. He told Christopher Shard.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like it was. What's the
Speaker 1: movie the one with Boon the coach, and uh, I
Speaker 1: remember the time, Remember the time. Yeah, you worry about
Speaker 1: your you know, you worry about your defense. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll worry about this offense kind of thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that's what these guys. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of pride and they do. You know what.
Speaker 1: The good thing about him too is I've been noticing
Speaker 1: he doesn't go out of his way to get attention. Oh,
Speaker 1: Christmas Shard, Noah, he'll answer your questions though, when you
Speaker 1: standing on ya, he'll answer your questions very very nice.
Speaker 1: He won't. He walked out of the locker room, and
Speaker 1: he walked out by himself and and left. He's not
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't look like he's a self promoter
Speaker 1: who knows what he does behind the scenes. But you're exactly,
Speaker 1: it all seems very genuine. You and you hear the
Speaker 1: players in training camp. You heard the player he was
Speaker 1: talking about. Um, he's a he's a motivational guy as well.
Speaker 1: The only game they've really been bad this year has
Speaker 1: been the Tennessee one, right, that's the only game twenty
Speaker 1: points in the eleven of fourteen on third down. Ever
Speaker 1: since that game, they have shut people down. In the
Speaker 1: Seattle game, they had the couple busted coverage. Yeah they
Speaker 1: played well, Yeah, they had the coverages. Dolphins didn't help
Speaker 1: there either. And you've got a young guy who just
Speaker 1: keeps getting better week to week, and you got guys
Speaker 1: around him howling at the moon with him. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, let Benderesh has brought some major juice to
Speaker 1: this thing. And well, how about Anthony Brown the way
Speaker 1: he played last night too. A lot of young guys
Speaker 1: knocking the ball down, you know, that's that's you gotta
Speaker 1: have that playing defense. And again that's not by accident.
Speaker 1: That's Chris Rochard and those guys coaching those kids up
Speaker 1: and there, and those kids believing in the coaches and
Speaker 1: keeping them like a guy like Jordan Lewis. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: a guy who was kept him on ice for ten
Speaker 1: weeks and he was starting here last year. Okay. And
Speaker 1: then you moved Byron Jones to cornerback, and credit Chris
Speaker 1: Richard seeing that what he had in Byron Jones and
Speaker 1: that would be his best position. And also keeping those
Speaker 1: guys invested because Jordan Lewis, as we all know his personality,
Speaker 1: is that it's the type that that might be a challenge.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's going to stay right on board
Speaker 1: and it pays off in a game like last night,
Speaker 1: only eight snaps on defense and yeah, it was David Irving. Lie,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. David Irving like right there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you could believe the only eight snaps, if you
Speaker 1: can playing fifty percent of the times you're out there,
Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good. And you know what I was told,
Speaker 1: kind of reinvigorated him because he was kind of left
Speaker 1: out right the offensive. Put him on the offense, he
Speaker 1: felt like, okay, part of this he bought him do
Speaker 1: something he bought in which kept him engaged to play defense.
Speaker 1: And so whoever, whether it was Jason Garrett or Lenna
Speaker 1: whoever's idea was that he might be a guy who
Speaker 1: could do the jet sweep type stuff, there is the
Speaker 1: extra benefit of that. Yeah, that's that's a part of coaching,
Speaker 1: right there, is keep those guys invested because you know
Speaker 1: there's gonna be situations arise even without injuries. In the secondary,
Speaker 1: there was a situation that arose against this Saints team
Speaker 1: where Jordan Lewis and even if it was just eight snaps,
Speaker 1: he was the matchup that they wanted on Alvin Kamaro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that's why you don't trade the guy. It's right,
Speaker 1: you can never have enough cornerbacks, right. Absolutely, it's a
Speaker 1: good player. I mean he's you know, that's something you
Speaker 1: have to kind of keep an eye on right there,
Speaker 1: keep you know, it's good players and let them go.
Speaker 1: And really he's mentioned offense that interception was to me,
Speaker 1: it was and I asked Hi about it afterwards. This
Speaker 1: is a high school wide receiver, the awareness, the presence
Speaker 1: of mind to keep that thing off the ground scraping
Speaker 1: his knuckles against the turf. Basically, I mean that was
Speaker 1: a big time play. No one believed if they had
Speaker 1: to re replay it. Well, they replay every turnover, don't they. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess they have to, Yes, they do, because guys
Speaker 1: in the white hats keeps coming back. Now, are you
Speaker 1: gonna leave us for the NFL front office officiating? Which
Speaker 1: I could what. I would love to go out to
Speaker 1: law school just some mickey head of the officials, and
Speaker 1: me just asked him a bunch of questions. You know what,
Speaker 1: and I would be honest. Okay, Chicago, guy, Chicago's really
Speaker 1: an honest city. We know all about that. That's why
Speaker 1: I voted four times in the mid term election, exactly sixty.
Speaker 1: We know what that's all about. Yeah, but they got
Speaker 1: it right. So I have made sure then getting elected president.
Speaker 1: How y'all spending your weekend? This is the mini buy week?
Speaker 1: How about those championship weekend? We got hip game out
Speaker 1: here at the Christmas Tree. Doesn't get up on Saturday
Speaker 1: and ain't getting up buying one of them little tabletop
Speaker 1: things they sell in front of the groceries, Charlie Brown Tree, Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown. What about you? You gotta work. I am
Speaker 1: not working, but I will be at at and T
Speaker 1: Stadium and am Actually I'll be there about nine am tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I love going down on the field before the game
Speaker 1: and checking out who the NFL draft prospects are now.
Speaker 1: Cuskowski down talking to the scout last year. The last
Speaker 1: year before the OUTCU game. I went down there and
Speaker 1: I looked at the OU players, I looked at the
Speaker 1: TCU players. I said, TCU has got no chance. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: let me tell you this Bill. If you can do
Speaker 1: that for me, we'll have you on the Draft show.
Speaker 1: Here comes up in January. Is Derek's waiting outside. He's
Speaker 1: got the Furt orange on, sort of like we sized
Speaker 1: up the high school players when we did that semi
Speaker 1: semi friend game. That's when Dwin Mickey quarterbacks a little
Speaker 1: taller than me. You turned out all right, but he
Speaker 1: still right. See you later. This has been a production
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