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Speaker 1: on my guests for me. Katy McFarland, former Deputy National

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Speaker 1: Security Advisor of the United States under Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 1: love seepack, kat because here is when I get to

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Speaker 1: meet with a lot of different people that I worked with,

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Speaker 1: whether it was back in the Bush administration days. It's

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a homecoming. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys that I talked to and ladies here that

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Speaker 1: work in National Security, CIA, FBI, you know, Pentagon, and

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Speaker 1: I asked them every year. It's almost like a check

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Speaker 1: out of the doctor. All right, how are we on

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Speaker 1: the world stage this year? Obviously it was a lot

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Speaker 1: to ask. We were having cigars last night with some

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Speaker 1: people that I trust and we were chatting about national

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Speaker 1: security and the issue of War three. There's a a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are saying we're getting close to World

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Speaker 1: War three. In your opinion, this conflict between Russia, Ukraine

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Speaker 1: now all of Europe getting in the present sending these

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Speaker 1: blank checks to Ukraine. Now the idea of F sixteens

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Speaker 1: and missile defense systems and everything else. Could this escalate?

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Speaker 1: And how concern are you about it turning into an

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Speaker 1: actual war three? And your assessment of Vladimir Putin as well.

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Speaker 1: I do think for the first time in my adult

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Speaker 1: life time, certainly since the Cold War, but probably even

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Speaker 1: going back to the sixties, worth the most dangerous moment.

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Speaker 1: And here's why we You know, a year ago at

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Speaker 1: Sepac when Russian invaded Ukraine, Russia thought easy Piec will

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Speaker 1: be in in three days, the Zoinski government will be toppled,

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Speaker 1: We'll put a puppet government in, we'll control Ukraine. Didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Why Because it turns out the Russian military wasn't that

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Speaker 1: any good despite their major military build up. It turned

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Speaker 1: out that the Ukrainian people fought back and turned out

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Speaker 1: that Europe, which everyone thought had been sort of sleeping

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Speaker 1: along and no longer armed, no longer worried about a

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Speaker 1: Russian threat, they actually rose to the occasion, and so

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Speaker 1: a number of things happened. Now we are a year later,

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Speaker 1: and what are we in. We're in a frozen conflict.

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Speaker 1: It's like World War One in the trenches. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Russians are going to take a little bit, then

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Speaker 1: Zolensky takes a little bit, then the Chinese contribute, then

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Speaker 1: we put stuff in, and so it's escalating, but it's

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Speaker 1: still at a stalemate. I think when you look down

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Speaker 1: the road, how long is this going to take to

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Speaker 1: quote win? And what is winning? Yeah? Definition, what is winning?

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Speaker 1: I mean if you look at President Biden, who says, well,

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Speaker 1: Putin's got to go. If you look at Zelinsky, who

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Speaker 1: says unconditional surrender on the part of the Russians, if

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Speaker 1: you look at Putin who says, I'm not going anywhere,

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Speaker 1: and I'll do anything I can to stay in power

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Speaker 1: and to prevail in my objectives. Then add on top

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Speaker 1: of it the most important factor that nobody talks about,

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Speaker 1: which is oil and natural gas. Putin could not have invaded.

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Speaker 1: When you said earlier that Vladimir Putin was kept in

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Speaker 1: check by Donald Chump, yeah he was kept in check.

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Speaker 1: But he was also kept broke Russia. If energy prices

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Speaker 1: are high, Russia, which is a world exporter of oil

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Speaker 1: and natural gas, they're rich, and what are they doing?

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Speaker 1: They're rich? For the last fifty years, they build a military,

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Speaker 1: they invade a neighbor, they have a proxy ward. Under Trump,

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Speaker 1: they were broke because we had American oil and natural

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Speaker 1: gas fracking. We pushed and low oil prices per barrel,

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Speaker 1: lowest oil prices per barrel. Vladimir Putin may have wanted

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Speaker 1: to invade the Moon. He couldn't afford to do anything

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Speaker 1: because he didn't have the excess money. Biden comes in

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Speaker 1: and so we're in America, he starts. So we're in

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Speaker 1: American fossil fuels. World production goes way, way, way, way way.

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Speaker 1: Do some pipeline everything that Donald Trump did. They basically said,

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Speaker 1: undo it when it comes to oil and gas and

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Speaker 1: resources here. Yeah, so we're going to reduce the world

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Speaker 1: production of oil and natural gas because we're going to

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Speaker 1: take America's hands and tied it behind our backs. As

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Speaker 1: a result, prices go sky high. Vladimir Putin says, why not.

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Speaker 1: This is my mom and I've got a little extra cash.

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Speaker 1: Let me go after Ukraine. So here we are now.

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, despite the sanctions of the Biden administration, despite

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Speaker 1: all the things they've thrown against the Russian economy right

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Speaker 1: now is doing better. Than a lot of European economies.

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Speaker 1: So Russia is not feeling Russia can fight forever as

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Speaker 1: they have oil prices. Yes, Bingo, as long as oil

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Speaker 1: prices are up, Russia can fight forever. So I look

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Speaker 1: at that and say one side once on conditional surrender.

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Speaker 1: The other guy size says I can fight forever. I

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Speaker 1: don't have any compunction about destroying Ukraine. I think we're

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Speaker 1: now increasingly getting to two alternative outcomes of this. One

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Speaker 1: that Putin again fighting forever all the money in the world,

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Speaker 1: completely destroys Ukraine, kills every man, woman, child, flattens it.

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Speaker 1: He has a history of doing that in Czechnia throughout

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Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, if I rather do that, I can't. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This is like a jealous lover right who says, if

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Speaker 1: if I can't have her, I'm going to shoot them.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what Putin's objective is. Now. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, we have the United States saying unconditional surrender.

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Speaker 1: Unconditional surrender, where is an alternative here? So on one hand,

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Speaker 1: you got a guy's willing to flatten the country and

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Speaker 1: then unconditional surrender as escalation goes on, means of an

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Speaker 1: involvement of NATO in the United States World War Three.

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Speaker 1: I don't like either of those options. And what I

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Speaker 1: learned in the Reagan administration where I earned my spurs,

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Speaker 1: was you find a third option, and the third option

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Speaker 1: is your bankrupt Russia. So what you said a second ago,

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Speaker 1: if you could push those prices of oil back down

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Speaker 1: to where they were under Trump, Russia's broke. They may

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Speaker 1: want to fight forever, but they can't fight art. It

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Speaker 1: can't afford it. They can't even afford They're out of

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Speaker 1: there in a couple of months. US charge Wilson to

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Speaker 1: this in Afghanistan with the yes exactly. He basically said,

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Speaker 1: we we can. We can beat them by giving basic

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Speaker 1: fighting equipment to the Mujadine, to these guys that were

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Speaker 1: on camels, and as long as they can just aim

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Speaker 1: and shoot down the helicopters. If you've never watched the movie,

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Speaker 1: it's a great movie, Charlie Wilson's War. You should go

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Speaker 1: watch it. But it was just being smart enough to

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Speaker 1: realize you could bankrupt Russia. Russia pulled out Afghanistan not

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Speaker 1: because necessary they were losing it, because they just couldn't

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Speaker 1: afford it anymore. There are a lot of ways to

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Speaker 1: win a war. You don't have to fight to win

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Speaker 1: a war, as we know with the Cold War, we

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Speaker 1: won it without firing a shot. You win it economically,

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Speaker 1: which is our strong suit. So a new American president

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Speaker 1: comes in, stops the war, and fossil fuels energy prices

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Speaker 1: go back and go back down. Putin's bankrupt, can't continue

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Speaker 1: to fight. Then he negotiates the solution, and then the

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Speaker 1: next step, and this is where the important part is.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine can't win the war. They can win the piece.

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Speaker 1: Russia can't win the war. They can always lose the piece.

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Speaker 1: So five years after the war stops, fast forward what happens.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is fully integrated into the European economy. Europe is

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Speaker 1: in NATO, Europe is so it'll be like being Germany

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Speaker 1: or Poland Nobody Vladimir Putin, even if he had the money,

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Speaker 1: couldn't invade. On the other hand, worse Vladimir Putin in Russia.

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Speaker 1: They're broke, they can't do anything, pariah state. Nobody invests

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Speaker 1: on them. So then you may not have won the

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Speaker 1: unconditional surrender that the Biden administration wants, but you've got

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Speaker 1: the outcome you want let's talk about you mentioned run

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Speaker 1: a Reagan strength through piece without ever firing a shot.

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Speaker 1: I worry about Vladimir Putin and the changing of his mindset,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk about his health for a second.

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Speaker 1: I may be wrong, and I want your opinion on this,

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Speaker 1: but my gut is he's starting to understand he's getting older,

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Speaker 1: he's starting to have some health issues, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: I want my man's best estimate, my legacy to be

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Speaker 1: that I put the SSR back together. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's rational in this war with Ukraine. If he was,

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be doing it differently. And I think

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Speaker 1: he doesn't care if he bankrupts his country. If this

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Speaker 1: is his legacy, he's taking back and putting pieces of

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Speaker 1: the pie back together. How much does it concern you

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Speaker 1: with nuclear weapons with Vildimir Putin? If in fact it

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Speaker 1: is more of a manifest destiny for him where he's

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Speaker 1: not trying to hold onto power for twenty more years,

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Speaker 1: it may be a year or two that he has

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Speaker 1: left to really do whatever it is he wants to

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Speaker 1: do for his legacy. Do you think he is at

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Speaker 1: a point now where he would actually use new grow

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Speaker 1: eupens because I didn't think he was five years ago,

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Speaker 1: certainly ten years ago, fifteen or twenty, because he was younger,

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Speaker 1: he was more he understood like, if I do that,

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Speaker 1: I'm in deep trouble. Now. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: enough time to hold him accountable and as a human

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Speaker 1: being if he does go there, are you worried about

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Speaker 1: nuclear war with him at all? I'm worried that Vladimir Putin,

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Speaker 1: who does have this manifest destiny has to achieve in

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Speaker 1: his lifetime, who understands that if he comes home an

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Speaker 1: unconditional surrender and defeat, as a Biden administration wants, he

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Speaker 1: does not stay alive. He gets either pushed out of

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Speaker 1: an officer or a bullet in the head. And for him,

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Speaker 1: there's absolutely no restraint. There's all bets are off. If

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Speaker 1: I'm going down, I'm not going down alone. And that

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Speaker 1: is a worry that I have not had. I've not

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Speaker 1: had that since the called war, but far the call, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my biggest worry was post nine to eleven. Certainly was

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Speaker 1: a dirty bomb, right, bad actor, And that's what when

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Speaker 1: we went to the Middle East, that was the argument,

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Speaker 1: right at a dirty bomb, you know, biological chemical weapons,

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Speaker 1: nuclear Iran brings me back to Ran for a moment.

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Speaker 1: We know Iran now is aligned with Russia. Iranian drones

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Speaker 1: are being used in Russia, and Iran is much much,

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Speaker 1: much closer than they've been in my entire lifetime to

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Speaker 1: having their own nuclear weapon, and no one seems to

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Speaker 1: be covering that in the media. No, it's not the

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Speaker 1: bright shiny object. The world is falling into two camps

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Speaker 1: and on one hot set do you have China, Russia, Iran,

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Speaker 1: North Korea. They have nuclear weapons, they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, they have technology, and they have will. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they have a concerted effort that what their job is

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Speaker 1: is to control the world, dominate the world. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, we have the United States, we have our

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Speaker 1: Asian allies, we have our European allies. We don't have

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Speaker 1: an American leadership who says, okay, here's the plan. The

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Speaker 1: plan is, let's use what we're really good at technology, economy, trade,

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Speaker 1: our economic system or political system, or freedoms. And that's

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Speaker 1: where I really worry. We've got a dangerous time in

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Speaker 1: the next year and a half until we got a

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Speaker 1: new American president who, like Reagan, says this is our

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Speaker 1: time let's bring everybody together and stand up to the

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Speaker 1: bad guys and fight them on the grounds that we choose,

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Speaker 1: not on the grounds they want. But nuclear war is

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, we used to laugh

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, it was not a reality. Now I

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Speaker 1: worry Vladimir Putin faced with a bullet in his head

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Speaker 1: and unconditional surrendered demands of the United States. Do you

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Speaker 1: remind people the history of Putin? You mentioned it a

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Speaker 1: moment ago, and now I want to fall up on it.

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Speaker 1: And then I promised I'm gonna let you go. But

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Speaker 1: this is you said something you said, Vladimir Putin has

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Speaker 1: a history of going scorched earth. Literally, if he can't

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Speaker 1: have it, no one can't. It's inhabitable. No one's gonna

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Speaker 1: want to live there. I've decimated destroyed it. It's a

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Speaker 1: non livable condition for rebuilding. Essence, You look at him

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Speaker 1: now with Ukraine, and if he did go there, and

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Speaker 1: you did have a nuclear weapon that went off there,

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Speaker 1: it's uninhabitable. That's a victory for him, even if he

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Speaker 1: gets isolated. And that is something I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: afraid of at all, and the Russian people are behind him.

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Speaker 1: The thing that I find just a joke is that

642
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: when they biden administration and people say, well, we'll get

643
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: rid of Ladimirputin, everything's gonna be fine. No, it's not.

644
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: You probably get somebody worse than Vladimir Putin. And anyway,

645
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: he's quite popular in Russia right now. They think he's

646
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. They're all for Ukraine, they're all

647
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: for this Ukraine. Weren't having some kind of a victory

648
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: in Ukraine. What Vladim Reputin came to power so a

649
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I've studied him for forty years. He came

650
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: to power so that he was in the KGB the

651
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Soviet Union collapse. He thought it was the greatest tragedy

652
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: in the twentieth century that the Soviet Union collapsed. He

653
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: has spent his entire political career after he left the

654
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: KGIB rebuilding Mother Russia. He thinks, this is the final

655
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: jewel in the crown. This's got in Ukraine. The way

656
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: he actually got into the residency twenty years ago was

657
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: that Afghan that Russia had a war in Chechnia, the

658
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: terrorists war breakaway province of Chechnia, and nobody could seem

659
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: to win it. The political leadership at the time. That

660
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: was it just they weren't winning it. There were bombs everywhere.

661
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: And so Vladimir Putin's strong man. He comes to power

662
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: by saying I'll solve it. And he did. And what

663
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: he did in the little country of Chechnia was he

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: killed everybody here was I mean, it was brutal, the

665
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: inhumane type of war. There was no rules of engagement,

666
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: there were they targeted civilian targets. And in the capital

667
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: of Chechia, Grosni that it was said that there were

668
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: not two bricks left on top of each other because

669
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: he leveled the entire city. It was he turned it

670
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: to rubble. Then everyone said, Vladimir Putin, he's a strong man.

671
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: We need to pull Russia back into greatness. He knows

672
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: the template. He knows. If he doesn't win in Ukraine,

673
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: there's some other guy who's gonna say, I'm gonna make

674
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: of Ukraine what we made of Chechenia. So I think

675
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin knows how to do it. He knows he

676
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: war always seems to consolidate power for leaders in Russia.

677
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Russians like strong leaders. If you look through it, if

678
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: we're out their history for five hundred years, the Russians

679
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: only got rid of people, only got rid of leaders

680
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: if they had a bad economy and they were weak abroad.

681
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Now Putin is looking weak abroad, his economy is doing better.

682
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: He cannot afford to be weak abroad and survive. Last

683
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: question for you, what keeps you up at night? And

684
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: I say that with me telling you what keeps me

685
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: up at night? And I want to get your thoughts.

686
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: I worry that we're so focused now on Russia Ukraine

687
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: and all of our military efforts, all of our mind

688
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: is going to this conflict, all of our aids going

689
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: this conflict. And what keeps me up at night now

690
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: is al Qaeda and NISUS and a nuclear rand. Because

691
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: we have an open border, we have a lot of

692
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: military age men coming across that border. I was down

693
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: at the border when we caught men coming in from Turkey.

694
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: They were released to a Catholic charity after we witnessed

695
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: them coming into America, and two of them, after they

696
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: were being interrogated by Texas Department of Transit transtation, we

697
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: called it, are you know the guys that basically aren't

698
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: the border of guards. The borders said let them go

699
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: and then we called department you know Texas, and said hey,

700
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: they came and got them, took them to Catholic charities.

701
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: They interrogated him, found out that two of the guys

702
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: were airline pilots from Turkey. They dropped all their papers

703
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: at the borders. They got a clean slate, right, a

704
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: fresh start, so you can't deport them right back to Turkey.

705
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: We knew they were from Turkey because of the language,

706
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: and we found out that two of them were actual

707
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: commercial pilots. They taken the Catholic charity. They dropped all

708
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: their papers of the border. They're now in America, right now,

709
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: they're in this country. I am terrified that this open

710
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: border is allowing for another nine eleven to be planned

711
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: by someone in the world. And I'm terrified all so

712
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: of a ran because we're not focusing on those two issues,

713
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: and we're out of Afghanistan, and I think intelligence wise,

714
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: we said we're gonna leave it, and we're gonna literally

715
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: leave it. We don't want to intel. We're done with Afghanistan.

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00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: You guys play there. That's what keeps up at night?

717
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Is that the right or wrong thing to keep me

718
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: up at night. We're a good thing I had not

719
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: heard about the Catholic charities, etc. But that certainly would

720
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: keep me up at night. I think the key thing

721
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: that keeps me up the most at night, though, is

722
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: that for twenty some years we were focused on the

723
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: forever wars in the Middle East. China build democracy in

724
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: countries that couldn't build it, and we took our eye

725
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: off China and for twenty years the rise of China

726
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: that now we're getting distracted with Russia and Ukraine and

727
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: all of our resources and metal energy are going to

728
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: that again taking our eye off China. If the United

729
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: States is continuing to prosecute a war militarily that we

730
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: could win economically but we choose not to, then I

731
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: worry that at the end of it all, China is

732
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: once China is in charge, we never get it back.

733
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: China becomes dominated the world. They'll deal with the nuclear

734
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: weapons in Iran and every other way the way they do.

735
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: But once the United States is no longer the technological superpower,

736
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: the economic superpower, once it's China, we lose our peace

737
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: and prosperity for our children and our grandchildren's generation, and

738
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: we don't ever get it back. We've been talking so

739
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: much about Russia. We've been talking so much about China, Ukraine,

740
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: World War Three. Who better to talk about it than

741
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: former deput National Security advisor to Donald Trump, Katie McFarlane.

742
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: I love seeing you. It's like every year Sea I

743
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: see people like you're still alive. We're still alive. Right,

744
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: We're still alive. I see you. I'll see you in

745
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: a year, right, like I know I'm gonna see my

746
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: friends every year. You were former Deputy National Security Advisor,

747
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: and under Trump, you guys did an amazing job of

748
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: keeping China in check, keeping a Rand in check, keeping

749
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Russia in check. That nord Stream hipeline was an issue

750
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: where he said no to that. He told the world,

751
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: you don't need to do this. He warned Germany, you

752
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: guys are idiots for taking this cheap oil. You're propping

753
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: up Putin. He warned the UK that you guys are

754
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: dependent on them and this is going to bite you

755
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: in the rear end. All of that has become true.

756
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: Now it's an issue of national security on two fronts.

757
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: We know now from Wuhan, and our government's admitting it. Okay,

758
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: it came COVID nineteen came from Wuhan. And superology. This

759
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: wasn't that they lied to us, they didn't help protect

760
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: the world. China took advantage of that in many ways

761
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: and said, hey, if we're going down, everybody else in

762
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: the worlds. They knew they had a problem, they knew

763
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: they had an outbreak. They didn't protect the rest of

764
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: the world. That's a problem from a nap from an

765
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: accountability standpoint, How shocked are you that our government isn't

766
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: trying to hold China accountable for all of their lives

767
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: just with COVID because it was a national security issue.

768
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you had an entire world shut down.

769
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: And even now people are like, oh, well, okay, fine,

770
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: it happened from Wuhan. Who cares, it's China. We gotta

771
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: move on because we need China. Are you shocked by

772
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: the ignorance of that, just mindset of its administration, the

773
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: irresponsibility of this administration. You know, China is presenting and

774
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: has presented, the only strategic threat to the United States

775
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: probably in our history going back one hundred or so years.

776
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: China is the only country that can replace the United States,

777
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: and it has every intention of doing it. It talks

778
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: openly about it, of shoving the United States aside and

779
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: creating a new world order led by China. Now they're

780
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: doing it economically, politically, diplomatically, militarily, technologically, with trade, with everything.

781
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: What I and others were concerned with when COVID started,

782
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: when I was asked, I think when I first saw

783
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: you here at Seapack two years ago or three years

784
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: ago in two thousand and twenty, what was it? It It

785
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: was just we didn't know what it was. It was

786
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: some kind of plague coming around the world. We're not

787
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: sure from whom we knew that it was from, or

788
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: I and others knew that it came out of Wuhan,

789
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: and it was the Chinese biological weapons lab in Wahan.

790
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: The United States turns out we had a presence at

791
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: that same lab, maybe in a different building or in

792
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: a different wing. But it was a leak, and the

793
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Chinese it's not that they deliberately leaked it. What happened

794
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: was they realized once it leaked what they had because

795
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: they were seeing the deaths in the city of Wuhan.

796
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: They had created a virus out of nature. They had

797
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: supercharged it. It's called gain a function research, and once

798
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: they realized how lethal it was, and how contagious it was.

799
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: They shut down China right away. They did not allow

800
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: people from the city of Wuhan to travel anywhere in China.

801
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: They basically shut the country down. What they opened up, however,

802
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: that was travel in and out of Wuhan. So Whan

803
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: is a city that has a lot to do with

804
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: the garment industry in Italy. So they sent Wuhan residents

805
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: who probably were carrying the plague, and they went to Italy,

806
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: and then from Italy it spread to Europe and then

807
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: it came to the United States. So did they employ

808
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: and let loose a biological weapon on the world. No,

809
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: But once they knew they had it, they employed it

810
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: as such. That should have been our wake up call

811
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: to say, okay, now let's look at everything else they're

812
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: doing in the light of the fact that they're willing

813
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: to do that to the world. You dealt with national

814
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: security issues. I think one of the things, and it's

815
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: a question that I don't believe has been answered yet,

816
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: is this present Since he's become president, Biden has not

817
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: so up to China in my opinion on one major thing,

818
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: once correct, is that do you believe possibly because Joe

819
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: Biden's compromise, the Biden crime families compromise, James Biden's compromise,

820
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's compromise, and the amount of money and the

821
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: funding and the billions of dollars and loans and the CEFE.

822
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be clear, when we were releasing our

823
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: strategical reserves, there was a tanker that was sold to

824
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: CEFE of our old reserves that went straight to China.

825
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: Their filings, financial filings still show Hunter Biden as being

826
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: a part of that company, even though the White House

827
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: said he had invested all of his foreign investments there

828
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: would be in age. And now he's an artist, we

829
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: also know that a lot of his arts being bought

830
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: by people in China. From a national security standpoint, being

831
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: the former national wi Security with Trump advisor, when you

832
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: look at this, do you think they are compromising that's

833
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: why they cannot stand up to China. I do think

834
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: they're compromised. But I think it's even wider than that.

835
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bag of money under the

836
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: suitcase for a bribe for a specific incident. The Chinese

837
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: are all over the place. The Chinese are major donors

838
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: to think tanks, the Penn Biden Center where all those

839
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: classified documents were found. That's a center that was paid

840
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: for by the Chinese. Now who was at that center?

841
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Who were the scholars? These are people who left the

842
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: Obama administration, went to a Chinese funded think tank and

843
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: parked themselves there. And this is all the senior people

844
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: who then became secretaries of State at center and the

845
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: senior jobs in the Biden administration. Now, is that a

846
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: bribe or is that? Gee? China is our friend. China

847
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: has paid for our salaries. China is so close to us.

848
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: Let's kind of given the benefit of the doubt again

849
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: and again and again. And it's not just those particular individuals.

850
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: It's the think tanks, it's the college campuses. The Chinese

851
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: have been on a concerted effort to infiltrate the United

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Speaker 1: States intellectual community, the thought leader at the highest levels

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Speaker 1: for twenty years, and they've thrown around a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to do it. So it's not just one or

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Speaker 1: two individuals, it's the whole gang of them. It's the

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Speaker 1: whole Washington elite, Republicans as well as Democrats, but most

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Speaker 1: particularly Biden and the Democrants. Let's talk about China. And

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Speaker 1: there's a headline that's not gotten a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: which has actually shocked me. And that's the fact that

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Speaker 1: there's basically Chinese police stations in the United States of

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Speaker 1: America to keep track and to keep in check people

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Speaker 1: from China and the US. How are we even allowing

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Speaker 1: that to happen? Again, it's the Chinese have infiltrated so

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Speaker 1: many aspects of our society. They do have police state,

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Speaker 1: Chinese police stations in the American cities to track Chinese citizens.

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Speaker 1: That's not a conspiracy theory. And I want to like

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Speaker 1: they're there, and like when that story kind of broke,

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Speaker 1: you like, whatever, that's a construction. I'm like, no, it's

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Speaker 1: actually real. They really are doing this and we're allowing it.

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Speaker 1: In America, they have think tanks that they pay for

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Speaker 1: in colleges and high schools around the country. They're called

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Speaker 1: Confucius institutes. Those are spy tracks. I mean they're recruiting spies.

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Speaker 1: They're recruiting, they're putting their own people. They're two active

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Speaker 1: spies and then trying to recruit Americans as spies. There's

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Speaker 1: another example. If you want to if you have a

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Speaker 1: Stock Exchange. In order to have that privilege, you have

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Speaker 1: to show all of your paperwork, your books, you're accounting,

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Speaker 1: you know, forensic account They look through every inch of

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Speaker 1: every nickel that was spent anywhere. If you're a Chinese company,

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Speaker 1: maybe a Chinese military company, what do you think you

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Speaker 1: have to do to list on the stock exchange? Those

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Speaker 1: rules were all waived. China can list on the New

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Speaker 1: York Stock Exchange. Pension funds from American government pension funds,

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Speaker 1: they're invested seen in those companies. So we have basically

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Speaker 1: paid for the Chinese military build up. Look the Chinese

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Speaker 1: the thing that is so upsetting because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: country that is using every aspect of its government and

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Speaker 1: us on the ash heap of history, and then take

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Speaker 1: over the world. Let's talk about the documents that the

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Speaker 1: president has. He admitted in an interview I think it

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Speaker 1: It was recently that he had classified documents dating back

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Speaker 1: people in the Senate. This is forty plus years of documents,

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Speaker 1: classified documents. He's has hands on. How concerned you again,

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Speaker 1: former Deputy National Security Advisor, that a US senator had

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Speaker 1: these documents outside of a skiff and is admitting the

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Speaker 1: timeline is over his entire fifty year career in Washington

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Speaker 1: and there seems to be really no accountability for this

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Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, there's a special prosecutor, I get that,

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Speaker 1: But these documents were everywhere, and a lot of them

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Speaker 1: dealt with the same exact company. Are countries which the

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Speaker 1: Biden crime family was profiting from. Documents were being told

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Speaker 1: from place like Iran, China, about China should say about

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Speaker 1: I ran about Ukraine, about Russia. Look, the Biden crime

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Speaker 1: family and that the people affiliated and on the edges

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Speaker 1: of it are committing an enormous crime against the American people.

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Speaker 1: They're getting rich on it. But they're the thing that

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Speaker 1: I find I guess even more upsetting. It's like I

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Speaker 1: suspect politicians to be to lie, sheet steal and get bribed.

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Speaker 1: What really is upsetting is that the Justice Department that's

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Speaker 1: supposed to represent the American people is treating this very differently.

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Speaker 1: I mean they created the whole Russia Gate spy thing,

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Speaker 1: and then they prosecuted President Trump. They now have direct

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Speaker 1: evidence Hunter Biden's laptop, etc. And they're not doing a

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Speaker 1: thing to go after those people. And then the complicit media,

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Speaker 1: so that the media, even some members of the media

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Speaker 1: who do want to do their job, people like Ben Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? You're shut down. And so it's

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Speaker 1: a really scary time in America. I mean, the First

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Speaker 1: The New York Posts tried to talk about the Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden laptop. Right, They're kicked off of social media. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be prosecuted by the Justice Department. It's to

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Speaker 1: me the adversaries are not Republicans versus Democrats anymore. It's

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Speaker 1: the people of the country versus the Washington power elite

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Speaker 1: of both political parties in cahoots with the mainstream media

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Speaker 1: and social media and the corrupt influences that they all

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Speaker 1: seem to be part of. And hopefully some of our

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Speaker 1: predictions are wrong. All right, don't forget to share our podcast.

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