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Speaker 1: Problem solved? Is it punt? Is it put? Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: it's put. DeAndre Hopkins, he put it for a duckdown.

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Speaker 1: Problem solved, tuck down, Tyler Murray. That defender is in

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Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty right there? Rights the

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Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who covered the teams.

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Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slammed the ground by foot a baker

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Speaker 1: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I

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Speaker 1: scared of nobody. Here's Paul Calvici. I was driving into

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Speaker 1: work this morning and stuck at a stop like, of

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Speaker 1: course it was on shape, Bolivard. That's rhetorical. Every stop

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Speaker 1: like you hit on shape, Bolivard. Darren Urban Scoff's Felipe

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Speaker 1: Corral Junior. You've been there and done that. You're behind

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Speaker 1: the guy with the personalized license plate and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, what exactly does this guy mean

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Speaker 1: by that. Here's what the license plate read. And I'm

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Speaker 1: looking straight to you felipe zero cap one word, zero cap,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, now, wait a minute, is this a

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Speaker 1: play on cap no cap like this guy is zero cap?

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Speaker 1: Or is this guy like a major League baseball general

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Speaker 1: manager was a Mike Hazen, he has no cap because

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Speaker 1: of baseball? Would exactly somebody helped me out and translate

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinal's Underground, brought to you by a Pacific

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Speaker 1: Office automation, I mean that would be no lie right,

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Speaker 1: no cap, no lie baby. No zero cap though, is

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Speaker 1: what it says? Zero zero That's another way of saying

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Speaker 1: no cap zero or somebody already took no cap for

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Speaker 1: their license plate, and you still want to happen if

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Speaker 1: someone was just just happened to listen to the first

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Speaker 1: couple of episodes of Cardinals Underground where I introduced this

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Speaker 1: term of no cap and cap to the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: they said, you know what, I'm gonna go get a

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Speaker 1: the the possibility though, of it being a major League

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Speaker 1: baseball general manager with no salary. It's trying to give you, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's trying to make a multiple choice. Just something to

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Speaker 1: think about. I did enjoy though, flipping you glossed right

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Speaker 1: over it, him asserting that perhaps he came up with

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. But here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: What what What is the shade being thrown on Shay

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Speaker 1: there as somebody who grew up around. It's funny, I

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Speaker 1: think when you talk about stoplights, I think about back

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Speaker 1: in the day when I first moved to Arizona. I'm

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Speaker 1: so freaking old Um Shape Boulevard. I grew up right

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Speaker 1: third or whatever, it was a dirt road wasn't it

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the Cardinals are eight and one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So why don't you guys post a poll, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just where should this one trillion dollars be allocated.

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Speaker 1: Which is the worst intersection and or stretch a roadway

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking infrastructure money going to sync up? The lights

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Speaker 1: throw out a couple of quick the aftermath the scorched

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Speaker 1: name job Pau. What was What was embarrassing though, is

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Speaker 1: so host you have no energy. You guys have no

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Speaker 1: that sideline test of endurance like you wouldn't believe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you know what the Cardinals did to the forty

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Speaker 1: make it fourteen out of seventeen. They have now won

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Speaker 1: I think in the series something like that. They left

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan with the same career regular season winning percentage

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Speaker 1: as Chip Kelly, the guy he replaced three more takeaways

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Speaker 1: as I continue, three more takeaways, and that means Kyle

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Speaker 1: And so there's the aftermath, the scorched earth the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: everybody was talking about where Kyle Shanahan was as a

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Speaker 1: of people saying do they keep him long term? How

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Speaker 1: long is this going to go? And you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not qualified enough to end not around that

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Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan. But it just shows you, guys, you

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Speaker 1: good seasons, and yeah, you need good coaching, but you

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Speaker 1: it also underscores again the quarterback situation. They are unsettled

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Speaker 1: of injuries that have made up for it, and right

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Speaker 1: now they just don't have that. And you have a

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Speaker 1: guy who was the only Niners coach in the last

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Speaker 1: help Kyler Murray to be a mentor, to be another

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Speaker 1: experienced voice in the room that didn't have a There

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Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of experience in there. But then, as

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Speaker 1: cole McCoy told Cliff, and then as Cliff later told us,

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Speaker 1: Colt kind of cut him off on that one of

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Speaker 1: those early conversations, saying, hey, I can really play still,

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Speaker 1: And and even Colt said when I asked him about that, that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't still be playing if I didn't

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Speaker 1: think I could play, And that makes sense. And then

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Speaker 1: to go out and do what he did, I mean,

438
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Speaker 1: did I expect him to play quite so perfect Lee?

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Speaker 1: I guess I didn't. I mean, this is probably the

440
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Speaker 1: best team he started for. I'd have to go back

441
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Speaker 1: and look, but those Browns teams were not good, and

442
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Speaker 1: the Giants teams and maybe The Redskins teams were okay,

443
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Speaker 1: but not this good. The Giants teams definitely weren't good,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if he'd ben started for them,

445
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Speaker 1: but this is probably the best team that's been around him.

446
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Speaker 1: And I just thought he was incredibly calm and cool

447
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: and smart with everything he did, and the game plan

448
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: was wonderful. I mean, Darren and Paul, you know what

449
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: happened with quote McCoy last year he got sacked a

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Speaker 1: couple of times by the Cardinals, right was it? Last year?

451
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Speaker 1: Was at the end of the Giants game. Yeah, and

452
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: he said, you know what, I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: sacked anymore. Let me let me go join that offensive

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Speaker 1: and Cliff kings very But to kind of elbrate a

455
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Speaker 1: little bit on what you said about how he plays

456
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Speaker 1: so perfectly, I mean he had the second highest completion

457
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Speaker 1: percentage in a single game and franchise history. Yeah, I

458
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Speaker 1: mean that's how good he played. And he didn't have

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, he didn't have a j Green like we

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Speaker 1: mentioned it, So I mean that that makes his performance

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Speaker 1: much more impressive. He did everything that he needed to

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Speaker 1: do in that game. I mean controlled the line, He

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Speaker 1: controlled the line of the scrimmage. He controlled it was

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Speaker 1: like a Chris Paul the type of game. You know.

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Speaker 1: He controlled the floor the way that Chris Paud does.

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Speaker 1: He controlled the time of possession, he made he made

467
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Speaker 1: sure that James Connor was in the positions to succeed

468
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Speaker 1: things like that is what you expect from a veteran quarterback. So,

469
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Speaker 1: and he did get sacked a couple of times, but

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Speaker 1: he didn't make the bone headed mistake of trying to

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Speaker 1: make a play out of nothing and then costume you

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Speaker 1: six points on some sort of errant pass. Like we've

473
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of young quarterbacks too in this league, right,

474
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: still doing high school type stuff like oh, I'm not

475
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Speaker 1: going to take a loss in this play. I'm gonna

476
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Speaker 1: fling it out to the flat and there it goes

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Speaker 1: the other way. So Matthew Stafford had that on Sunday

478
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Speaker 1: night too. So is that shade? Is that shade? Paw

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00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't a name of names you were, I

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00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: had your mind how you fill in the blanks. So,

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Speaker 1: in fact, if you watch the locker room video and

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Speaker 1: the visiting Victorious locker room in Santa Clara, Cliff Kingsbury

483
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Speaker 1: tells that story as well to the team about what

484
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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, but apparently Cole McCoy accentuated it, punctuated it

485
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Speaker 1: with an expletive that they had to keep out of it.

486
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Speaker 1: Out of it, you know. So, I mean he was adamant.

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Speaker 1: He was adamant. I can still bleeping play coach. I'm

488
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Speaker 1: not just good. I don't picture Colt McCoy saying that

489
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: they were so polished in front of the media they

490
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Speaker 1: might throw you what they really like behind the scenes. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, so some of the guys who I mean,

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Speaker 1: for the most partum, Bruce arians and his staff never

493
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Speaker 1: really swore on camera for the most part. But if

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Speaker 1: you ever went to a Cardinals practice with BA and

495
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: his staff, oh my goodness, that's true. Right. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: But in terms of Cole McCoy and and what they

497
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Speaker 1: did and and minus a lot of the parts, I mean,

498
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Speaker 1: by the end of that game, they were without their

499
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Speaker 1: long snapper for Pete's sake, which which was both alarming

500
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Speaker 1: and somewhat entertaining down in the sideline because there's Aaron Brewer.

501
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Speaker 1: He comes off after the long brandon I punt return,

502
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: and you're right away you're like, oh boy, oh boy,

503
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Speaker 1: he's heading to the trainers. Okay, who is the backup

504
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: long snapper? I'm asking myself. So as a game progresses

505
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Speaker 1: a little bit more, the assistant special teams coach Devin Fitzsimmons, Yes,

506
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Speaker 1: he comes down. Coach fits. He makes the specialists aware

507
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Speaker 1: that there might be a snap between then and the

508
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Speaker 1: end of the game, just to bed outside. Put it

509
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: that way, that might go a little awry because there's

510
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Speaker 1: going to be a backup for the most part snapping

511
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Speaker 1: that ball. So then when the Cardinals had the ball

512
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Speaker 1: in Niners territory and they're looking at fourth and five,

513
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they call it time out. Well,

514
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Speaker 1: why they want to talk it over? No, the long

515
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: snappers in the locker room getting checked out, what exactly

516
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Speaker 1: are they gonna do? So then Dan and by the way,

517
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Speaker 1: Jeff Rogers, the special team's coordinator, wasn't at the game

518
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Speaker 1: because of COVID, so it's all on coach fits here exactly.

519
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Speaker 1: And so Dennis Gardeck takes a false start. No, by

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Speaker 1: the way, guess what, the backup Sean Harlow gets off

521
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Speaker 1: a snap just to practice once and then they take

522
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Speaker 1: another false start and he gets another snap off to practice,

523
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Speaker 1: just so because there was far enough into Niners territory

524
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Speaker 1: they can afford to be fourth and fifteen. And that

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00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: was just a really interesting sequence. So you're saying, So

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Speaker 1: you're saying the false starts were taken one for the

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Speaker 1: team for Dennis Gardeck, Yes, for Sean Harlow, say no,

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Speaker 1: I get to practice. Yes, so Sean Harlow would Harlow

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Speaker 1: would have been the back of long snapper. How does

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Speaker 1: that work. I've just never seen a long snapper ever

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Speaker 1: been injured on a team or whatnot. So I was

532
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Speaker 1: just you know what happens in that scenario. Yeah, injury

533
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: is very rare. I immediately think of when they went

534
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Speaker 1: between Mike Leach and Aaron Brewer and there was a

535
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Speaker 1: three to four to five games stretch, especially in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Darren helped me out here with my candidate Canniday, who

537
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Speaker 1: by the way, got cut because he struggled here so much.

538
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Speaker 1: They had a it was Cam Candiday and there was

539
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Speaker 1: another guy who after Leech retired, they had the competition

540
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Speaker 1: all through camp. Cam candidate won it. Uh struggled at

541
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, starting with that Patriots game,

542
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: had the issue in Buffalo, they cut him and Amberrower

543
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: came in has done a great job. Cam Cannaday went

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and has been a Pro Bowl long snapper. No,

545
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: come on, I think we've said this before on this

546
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Speaker 1: podcast Pro Bowl. I think he's still in the league

547
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: and he was a Pro Bowler, and I think you

548
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: actually had the same exact reaction the last time I

549
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: said this. That's twenty years of morning radio and sleep deprivation.

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Speaker 1: Just but yes, Cam Canniday was the guy who replaced

551
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: Mike Leach and didn't last very long and struggled. Let

552
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: me tell you, but Cam cannidy was I think right

553
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: out of college at that point, and then, like kickers,

554
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times, these long snappers need a little

555
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: time to figure it out before they hit their stride.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you though, the biggest kudos you can give

557
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer is virtually no one knows who this guy is.

558
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: He has been so reliable. He has been so dependable.

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00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: We've talked about Amber. He's been so flawless. Yes, I'm

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00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: gonna use that word. I can't remember a single snap

561
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: he has screwed up in his five or six years

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Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, if old NFL officials

563
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Speaker 1: were as under the radar and as inconspicuous as Aaron Brewer,

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Speaker 1: the long snapper, you know, memo to Tony Currente coming

565
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: off Monday night football, try not to be so much

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Speaker 1: in the spotlight, right, I mean those, if only NFL

567
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: officials were more like long snappers around here. Who's with

568
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: me or rump? I mean Cam Canidate, he's no. I

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Speaker 1: mean I think Aaron Brewer, and I think um that.

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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this in training camp where he comes.

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Speaker 1: I saw him at one point and he had the

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Speaker 1: Hawaiian shirt on. He had the mustache because he rocks

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Speaker 1: the mustache, and he the sunglasses on earlier in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and he looks like, you know, the old school private investigator.

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Speaker 1: That it's like an old like an old Nick Nolty

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Speaker 1: movie or something like that. Can I just stay for

577
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: the record though, that not only did Cam Candidate make

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, but it looks like the Steelers released

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Speaker 1: him in training camp. No, I'm guessing out of cash reasons,

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Speaker 1: so he knows he might actually be It looks like

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Speaker 1: he's actually available. Interesting. We'd call him leech, but Mike's

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00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: like a pencil neck. Now, love you, Mike. He lost

583
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: like one hundred pounds when he stopped playing. So he's

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00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: out there playing a lot of golf and in Virginia

585
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: or something like that. We've seen him in some of

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals folk tales. By the way, he's a great guy,

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00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: great interview. But in terms of injuries, yeah, that one's

588
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: a huge question mark. What about the offensive line now, guys,

589
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: what about the status of Justin Pugh and or Max Garcia.

590
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Could you be without your starting guards from the Niners game?

591
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: And what exactly does that mean? If Ronnie Hudson is

592
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: your center and knock on will, let's hope he still is.

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00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: We have no reason to believe otherwise than are your

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Speaker 1: starting guards Josh Jones and Sean Harlow. I mean, yeah,

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00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: don't they have to be have to be right? I mean,

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00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: at this early point in the season, the Cardinals have

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00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: already brought up Marcus Henry in the season. In the

598
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: week the Cardinals have already brought up Marcus Henry from

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00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: the practice squad as a promotion. And then they they

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00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: also made sure they've already announced their COVID replacements this weekend,

601
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: and one of them. Is Danny as Adora offensive lineman. Now,

602
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: that could change if Aj Green or Demetrius Harris get

603
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Speaker 1: healthy later in the week, but this is an interesting

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00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: time to make. Those choices. Usually wait to wait late

605
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: in the week to see who you really need. Well,

606
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: obviously they really need offensive lineman right now. So we'll

607
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Speaker 1: see where Justin Pugh is and we'll see where Max

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Speaker 1: Garcia is. And again, the injury thing is real with

609
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Speaker 1: all these guys, and you're gonna have to You're gonna

610
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Speaker 1: have to get around this and get guys healthy at

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Speaker 1: some point. To me, you can handle Chase Edmonds. You

612
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: can handle Chase Edmonds. Eno Benjamin obviously did a nice job.

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Speaker 1: It's the offensive line that's more concerning than an injury

614
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: to the running back room because guess what, no on line,

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00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: no running lanes. You can get a running back if

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Speaker 1: there's running room who will be successful. But if they're not,

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Speaker 1: especially if Colt McCoy is going to be the starter

618
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: again and doesn't have the escapability obviously and the ability

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Speaker 1: to extend places like Kyler Murray, I'm more concerned with

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Speaker 1: offensive line injuries than problem any other position group on

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Speaker 1: this team. Though I did I did see Cole McCoy,

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Speaker 1: you know, put on his best Kylie Mary impersonation in

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Speaker 1: week ninety. I think he had a couple of small

624
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: runs there. But I mean if he looked back in

625
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: week nine and a pair of those touchdowns, the first,

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Speaker 1: you know, the James Conner thirteen yard touchdown and the

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00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: you know Benjamin touchdown, a lot of that you probably

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: credit the offensive line. I mean the holes that created.

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Speaker 1: Uh it always you know, it's beneficial. I have someone

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Speaker 1: like Randy Hudson, but I remember on that thirteen yard

631
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Speaker 1: touchdown when Sharon Sean Harlow you know, kicked out right,

632
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, picked up Nick nick Bosa, Darryl Daniels followed

633
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: with that lead block, and wow, the holes. I feel

634
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: like our own Rolando Contu can probably run through one

635
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: of those, one of those offensive offensive lineman. The holes

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00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: that they create. So, I mean it is concerning because

637
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: the production from the running back group comes, you know,

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00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: majority of the time, it comes from the holds that

639
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: this offensive line creates. And can I highlight something on

640
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: that on the James Connor forty five yard screenplay, please?

641
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: I saw Rodney Hudson out in the open field, just

642
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: put one of those defensive backs on their backs to

643
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: give Connor a clear path to the end zone. So

644
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: it's things like that that really when it comes when

645
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: we talk about offensive lineman and injuries, that's the first

646
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: thing that comes to my you know houses, is this

647
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: run game, run game gonna keep being productive if if

648
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: you don't have guys like Max Garcia and Justin Puge

649
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: who they're veterans, they know that offensive line. They've played

650
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: under Sean Coogler for a couple of years now, So yeah,

651
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: it is concerned. You know what, when the virtual film room,

652
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: we always pick a player or two for Cliff Kingsbury

653
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: to break down. So we picked the forty five yard

654
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: catch and run by James Conner, the longest touchdown of

655
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: his career, which Cliff Kingsbury said he was not aware of.

656
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: But to your point, Felipe, we extended the play all

657
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: the way and he highlighted Rodney Hudson all the way

658
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: down some thirty yards downfield, getting a piece of a

659
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: guy and helping spring James Connor. And I followed up with, hey,

660
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: that's gotta go a long way in the film room

661
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: on a Monday, and he said, absolutely, guys, respect that

662
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: It's just one of many things they respect about Rodney Hudson.

663
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen Rodney Hudson way down field

664
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: a few times already this season. I mean, I'm not

665
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: saying other lineman don't do it, but a man, he's

666
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: really good and to come from the center position to

667
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: do it is really impressive to me. So why is

668
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: this team so good with so many injuries? That is

669
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: the question is And okay, you know what, pick me

670
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: my hands up, Oh, pick me for it. Okay, we

671
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: wait to hear your legendary analysis. I'm not going to

672
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: leave anyone behind on this analysis, I guarantee you. I'm

673
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: just saying it's an observation. This team loves a challenge.

674
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: They love a challenge. They're they're at their best when

675
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: someone says their best won't be good enough. Whether it's

676
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: at Tennessee against Derrick Henry, whether it's at the Rams

677
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: ain't no Sean McVay right, whether it's at Cleveland minus

678
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: their head coach everything you know, missing guys on them

679
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: morning to the game because of COVID positive tests. You know,

680
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: whether it's going to the forty nine ers minus their

681
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: MVP caliber quarterback and their top two receivers. This team

682
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: loves a challenge. They respond to a challenge. There's something

683
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: about it where they come out and they're all about

684
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: proving people wrong. And you can't tell me they're not listening.

685
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: They hear a lot of what's out there. Do they

686
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: hear everything, No, but they hear enough that it's a motivator. Yeah. Well,

687
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean, all it takes is one person saying it.

688
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: And heck, they don't even heed ne to hear it. Now,

689
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: if somebody said something a month ago, they probably can

690
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: run with that for a while. And so obviously guys

691
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: are listening and you and you find anything. I mean, look,

692
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: we all saw the last Dance. I mean, half the

693
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: time Michael Jordan wasn't getting dissed or somebody was com

694
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: plimenting him, and he turned it into a negative just

695
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: to And that's how a lot of these guys are wired.

696
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: And to me, sorry, Kyle, I'm gonna mention this word,

697
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: but to me, there is a kind of momentum with

698
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: that in terms of like after a while, I mean,

699
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: if you're if you're in the bubble of the locker room, okay,

700
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the you know, propaganda that you

701
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: could be in. If you're in the middle of the

702
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: locker room, it doesn't matter what everybody is saying in

703
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: the outside. All it takes is a little colonel. And

704
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: if in your little bubble everybody starts repeating it and

705
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: they find start to believe it, you know, it becomes, uh,

706
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: it becomes misinformation. I'm not going to get too far

707
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: into this analogy because I think everybody knows what I'm

708
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: talking about, but ultimately you can go on the Pat

709
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: McAfee show. No, I think I'll avoid that, but I

710
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: will say that it doesn't matter what people are saying,

711
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: they're going to manufacture I think ways to get there.

712
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: And I know that's like I know, Wolf would probably

713
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: just throw up at that thought process that somebody would

714
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: like make stuff up to like motivate them, But I

715
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: think it actually happens. Look, it wouldn't be the first

716
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: time that something got embellished. Yes, you know, for the

717
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: sake of the team. Yea. Even the head coach, you

718
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: know what he's saying this week because you're trying to

719
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, what could possibly be the motivation against

720
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: the Carolina team that has lost five of six. They

721
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: have scored one touchdown in the last three games. They've

722
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: scored one touchdown in their last thirty six possessions. Think

723
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: about that. How horrendous this Carolina offense has been. With

724
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, who's an absolute turnover machine, getting ripped by

725
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: his head coach Matt Rule in the postgame press conference.

726
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: If you're thinking, okay, wait a minute, how can you

727
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: get the attention of your team, Well, Cliff Kingsbury is

728
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: telling the airs on a Cardinals locker room that Carolina

729
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: has beaten the Cardinals five times in a row, and

730
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: because of their dominance over the Cardinals, which include an

731
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game win that got awful lopsided by the end,

732
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: then guess what Carolina has had the Cardinals number over

733
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: the last decade. And they've been without Christian mccaffee and

734
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: they're in that man that you mentioned, I think he

735
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: played his first game last week in a couple of weeks.

736
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean that can also be extra motivation for that

737
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: that Cardinals defense, who, by the way, I've been playing,

738
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, lights out for these first night in the

739
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Didn't they come In twenty eighteen

740
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: with Kyle Allen, the local Scott still Desert Mountain kid,

741
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: and they throttled the Cardinals without Christian McCaffrey in that game.

742
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: It was not it was not pretty. I can't remember

743
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: if McCaffrey played, but I do remember Kyle Allen and

744
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: last year even with McCaffrey, I think he played, But

745
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean they got slapped silly and Carolina was that

746
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: was last year, right? I believe it was like, oh yeah,

747
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: it was Week four. They had zero energy. That's how

748
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: it came up with byoe, bring your own energy because

749
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: there's no one in the stadium and they came out

750
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: there zero energy. And yeah, they got worked in that game.

751
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater was solid enough and that Carolina defense went

752
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline and the Cardinals didn't have a lot

753
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: of energy on their sideline and it got ugly quick

754
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: in that game. That was part of the roller coaster ride.

755
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: Win two lose too. Remember that two and two with

756
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: that Carolinas always I mean, uh, the Cardinals weren't a

757
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: bad well, it turned out to be a bad place.

758
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: But remember two thousand and seven, Um, they the Panthers

759
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: signed Vinnie Testaverdi off the street and and they signed

760
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: Vinie Testaversy off the street when Ken Wizenhunt was trying

761
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: to get Vinnie Testaverdi here to be a backup to

762
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner because Matt Liner went down with the collarbone injury.

763
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: And then within the first quarter, Uh, Julius Peppers fell

764
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: on Kurt Warner and made his left arm look bright. Yeah,

765
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: and uh they had to bring in Tim Rottey who

766
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: had just signed that week, and it became Vinny Testaverdi

767
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: of the Panthers, Panthers versus Tim rote of the Cardinals.

768
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: And that was just a horrific game on a team

769
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: that if they win that game that season, they might

770
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: end up as a playoff team later that year. They

771
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: didn't the Cardinals, but uh, the Panthers have had some

772
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: interesting games with the Cardinals over the years. So it's

773
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: always something you don't want to think it's gonna be nothing.

774
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a Carolina team where Robbie Anderson,

775
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: for the second time this year, started screaming at his

776
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: quarterback on the sideline and then after the game he

777
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: told the media, I don't know exactly what I said

778
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: to him, but it was pretty much like, you need

779
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: to tighten it up a little bit. The same way.

780
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: If I'm slacking, I need someone to tell me that

781
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: we hold each other accountable, and I hold myself accountable,

782
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: and that's part of it. And then later in the

783
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: same press comments Robbie Anderson, who's been volatile throughout his career.

784
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: One of the reasons he's no longer with the Jets,

785
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: he said that Carolina continually doing the same thing over

786
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: and over again on offense and hoping for different results.

787
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: His quote technically insanity. WoT he's having a bad year though,

788
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson like, he's barely getting the ball, and he

789
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: knows Darnald well because they played together in New York's

790
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: And then, of course the Panthers are getting ripped because

791
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: what did they do before the season, before Sam Donald

792
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: had even played a single game. They pick dup his

793
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: nineteen million dollar guaranteed option. They picked up his option

794
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: without ever having seen him in a regular season game,

795
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: and it's guaranteed for next year at nineteen million. And

796
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: he's thrown ten picks in his last six games, and

797
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: he threw interceptions on three straight possessions last week against

798
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots. You know what, it gets worse when the

799
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Patriots dbs come out after the game and this is J. C.

800
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Jackson who had the eighty eight yard pick six, and

801
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, we disguise against Darnald ur d disguise

802
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Every year he's had a hard time

803
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: because we played him with the Jets. And then Belichick

804
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: went on said, hey, we were able to create some pressure.

805
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: So let me ask you guys, vance Joseph. Is he

806
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: pretty good at creating pressure A and B? Is he

807
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: pretty good at disguising and changing coverages and being pretty

808
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: multiple throughout an entire game? Because that seems to play

809
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: felipe and advanced Joseph's strength. If that indeed is what

810
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: be fuddles a Sam Arnold, guess what advantage Arizona? And

811
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: I mean when you have two outside linebackers who have

812
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, six plus sacks you know on your side

813
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: of the ball. I mean, of course, that's like that's

814
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: what Chandler Jones wants, you know, that's what he was

815
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: talking about. Hopefully you know, these quarterbacks can hold on

816
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: to the ball a lot and you see Sam Darneld

817
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: doing a lot of that in the pocket. I mean,

818
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Van Josel what he does so well is he plays

819
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: a talent on his roster. I mean, that's that's been

820
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: his you know, his best asset is playing to the

821
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: talent that he has on his roster. He has a

822
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: rotation on the defensive line that week after week for

823
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the most part, keeps producing well. I'm talking about guys

824
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: like Corey Peter zach Allen, like he vowed to hopefully

825
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence comes back healthy soon enough. I mean, obviously,

826
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: no more JJ Watt and he's still I mean no

827
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and you hold the forty nineties to thirty

828
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: nine yards rushing. I mean, that's that's all vance Joseph

829
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: right there. So and we talk about that four for

830
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: three alignment. That's having confidence in your secondary. When you

831
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: have one safety in the backfield of it and you

832
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: have one of the best safety duos in the backfield,

833
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: you can do stuff like that. So he's playing to

834
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: the talent on his on that side of the bar,

835
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: and it's paying dividends. I mean, we don't give enough

836
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: credit to Byramurph. He's one of the best cover corners

837
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: in the NFL so far through nine weeks. So when

838
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: you have that much talent, of course, you're gonna generate

839
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: the pressure that that that defense has been generating. Of

840
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: course you're gonna come up with all those takeaways when

841
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: you have that offense on the other side of the bar.

842
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: He's just taken advantage of the talent. You know what,

843
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals defensive front, Chandler Jones gonna like the sound

844
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: of their minus their starting center. They already had one

845
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: of the worst old lines Carolina in the league. So

846
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: they just lost their starting center against the Patriots. He

847
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: has done for the year torn ACL unfortunately. And then

848
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: the starting left tackle Cam Irving went out in that

849
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: game and got an MRI and he's not likely to

850
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: play against I think he did because, yeah, they said

851
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: it was bad. I didn't see the I think they

852
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: both were put on ir so or yeah, yesterday one

853
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: of the worst old lines in the league is now

854
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: banged up and bad. So we'll see if this is

855
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: a game where once again Chandler Jones and company they

856
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: can I mean, for Marcus Golden, I didn't even realize

857
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: he had three sacks. I thought he had two. I

858
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: guess I misattributed one of the sacks. But by the

859
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: end of the game, I kept asking our producer Jim

860
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: Momondry he's sure he has three. I thought he had two,

861
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: but he ends up with three. And then afterwards, he

862
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: was the last guy off the field and he's signing

863
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: for all the fans that had come down to the

864
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: front row, and he's going around and he's still bouncing

865
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: up and down, and and I mean the energy where

866
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: he gets it where you guys know, you seem like

867
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: on a Saturday in the team hotel on the road

868
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: and he's got a big old smile and he's bellowing

869
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: across the team room, and it's just I don't know

870
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: where he gets the endless energy, but that motor. That

871
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: motor has him with nine sacks and number three in

872
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: the NFL behind Miles Garrett and t J. Watt. Think

873
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, they came into this season hoping

874
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: that he could be some buddy that would fill the

875
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: void now that Hassan Reddick left, and now that it's

876
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: kind of interesting that Hassan Reddick comes into town this

877
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: week having a fantastic season, pretty pretty good, not as

878
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: good as Marcus Golden, at least sack wise, he's so

879
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: far and I think that's really amazing. You can't I

880
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to throw any shade on what Hassan

881
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: is doing, because he's doing great and I love the

882
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: fact that he seems to has figured out his career arcum.

883
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: But to have Marcus Golden on this team, I mean,

884
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: let's face it, guys, they had to resign. They were

885
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: going to resign one of those guys, and they picked

886
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden, probably because he was going to be cheaper.

887
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: He signed before Hassan Reddick did. I'm guessing Hassan Reddick

888
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: thought he was going to get a lot more money

889
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: than he did on the open market. He got one

890
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: year six million read I think it was, yeah, six

891
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: and what's Marcus is one two for nine exactly. So, um,

892
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals made a choice and it's worked out, okay.

893
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you you pay a little less money and

894
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: you're getting the production you want. And now they're gonna

895
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: be on either side and it's it's gonna be interesting

896
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: to see. But I look, I love Marcus the first

897
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: time I was here. I feel like he and I

898
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: are I wouldn't say we're tight, but I feel like

899
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: he and I have a really good relationship. And there's

900
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: no one you would want to root for more than

901
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Marcus golden and look, Hassan Reddick went back to Carolina.

902
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: There's a reason, a cause and effect. Their head coach

903
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: was his head coach at Temple, Matt Rule, so they

904
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: have a long standing relationship. He said, Okay, if I'm

905
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: going to take a one year deal somewhere, to Darren's point,

906
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: once he didn't get the big money, once he didn't

907
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: get the multi year he said, okay, if I'm gonna

908
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: go somewhere, I'm gonna go back with my old coach,

909
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, and I can be certain he's gonna use

910
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: him the way I think my skill set is utilized best,

911
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: which did not get figured out with the Cardinals until

912
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: the very last season of his Cardinal's career. And so

913
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: boom he is. He's having a very nice season. I

914
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: think he's at eight and a half sacks. He's right

915
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: behind Marcus Scolds and and he has a ton of

916
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: he's in the stat sheet and all other categories tackles

917
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: for loss and quarterback hits and pressures. So he's having

918
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: and look, their defense is athletic. Carolina's defense goes sideline

919
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: to sideline. There there are an excellent they gave Carolina's

920
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: offense against the Patriots. The ball the twenty one and

921
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: the thirty one, and the offense went nowhere. Had to

922
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: kick two fuel goals and that's all they got the

923
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: entire game. They lost twenty four six to the Patriots.

924
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's the way I look at this,

925
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: and this is why I like how the Cardinals are constructed.

926
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Their defense has been very good. But their defense, one

927
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: of the reasons is good. And this is to take

928
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: nothing away from what this Cardinals defense has done, but

929
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: one of the reasons it's been pretty good is because

930
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: the offense has gotten them leads. And I just feel like,

931
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: and you guys can disagree with me if you if

932
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: you disagree, I mean I wouldn't because I'm right, but

933
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: I want to disagree so bad right now to go ahead,

934
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: going to because I'm gonna say, this league is an

935
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: offensive league, and if you're not good offensively, I don't

936
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: care how good your defense is, you don't have a chance.

937
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: And I feel like the Panthers have a pretty solid defense,

938
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: but they don't have a chance because they don't have

939
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: an offense, no no quarterback, no chance. Yeah, that's their situation.

940
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: And guess what they gave up three draft picks for

941
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold and then picked up his nineteen million dollar

942
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed option for next year. And this week's starting quarterback

943
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: easily could be PJ. Walker. Admittedly, I had no clue

944
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: who in the heck is PJ Walk. Can't believe you

945
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: didn't watch the XFL. That's a very disappoint is that

946
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: where all I didn't even see XFL in his bio.

947
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: I saw he came from Temple, where he was a

948
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: four year starter from Matt Rule. At Temple, he was like,

949
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: he was like the best quarterback in the XFL before

950
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: it shut down for COVID. Gotcha. Okay, So he hasn't

951
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: been very good in the NFL career. He has one touchdown,

952
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: he has five picks, and you know, earlier this year

953
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: he went in against the Giants. They lost twenty five three,

954
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: and that's when that's when Sam Darnold originally hurt his

955
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: throwing shoulder and PJ Walker in that game went three

956
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: or fourteen. Was zero touchdowns, zero picks, three sacks in

957
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: a passer rating of forty. I mean he's gonna have

958
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: a whole week to prepare, so I mean that may

959
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: make the difference the aready. This defense already had a

960
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: chance to prepare for a mobile quarterback like like Trade Land,

961
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: So I mean they have the blueprint to defend against

962
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: someone like that. Yeah. But PJ. Walker, I mean, no,

963
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: no disrespect to him. He's not one of the top

964
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. I mean, if we're talking about backups,

965
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say he's one of the top backups

966
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, what he has writing on

967
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: on his side is that he does he does have

968
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: some experience playing under Matt rules, So I mean hopefully

969
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: that benefits him. I mean I doubt it the way

970
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: that this defense is playing. And going back to Darren's point, Uh, yeah,

971
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: it is an offensive league. But when the when your

972
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: defense is giving you the ball time after time after

973
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: take ways, that also benefits That also benefits the offense.

974
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: Week nine, you know, they capitalize on those two those

975
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: two forced fumbles. So it's like a it's like a

976
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: two way street, but the offensive street is a little

977
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: bit wider. I was saying, Well, the Cardinals are top

978
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: three as a scoring offense, top three is a scoring defense,

979
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: their top three in turnover ratio. So yeah, Philippi, I

980
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: would agree all those things go together, There's no doubt

981
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: about it. One that gets another in a lot of ways.

982
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: But to Darren's point, no QB no chance. If Sam

983
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Darnold wasn't already day to day with the shoulder injury,

984
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: I think he's day to day just based on the

985
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: tone and temperature of his head. Coach Matt Rule after

986
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the loss of the Patriots, and I quote, I think

987
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: Sam would be the first to tell you that wasn't

988
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: good enough. From the quarterback position. We had guys open

989
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: with some opportunities that we weren't able to connect on.

990
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: We had too many batted balls. We had three giveaways.

991
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: When you look at our season, we have to protect

992
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: the football and then we have a chance to win.

993
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: So play at the position has to be better. We

994
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: just can't continue to keep throwing the ball up. We

995
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: got to protect the football. A third down pick is

996
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: one thing, but first and second out of interceptions just

997
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: can't happen. So to me, those are decision making things

998
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: that we've talked about and talked about and talked about,

999
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: and here we are in game nine and it hasn't happened.

1000
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: End quote Matt Rule on his quarterback I'm not feeling

1001
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: a game ten for Sam Darnold. That's just not me. Well,

1002
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this is where you get. And there's been

1003
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: a lot of conversation about the Panthers considering the possibility

1004
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: of bringing in Deshaun Watson if they could make it work,

1005
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: and that they supposedly tried. Yeah, they tried. Well, they

1006
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: tried in the off season, and then all the things

1007
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: started happening with Watson and they went with Arnold. And

1008
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: then obviously they everything's just so sticky with the Deshaun

1009
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Watson legal problems that it just doesn't make any sense.

1010
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: But they're going to be in a position where they're

1011
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: not set a quarterback. And again, we just said this,

1012
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say it again, you can't. You're not

1013
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: gonna win in this league without a quarterback, and I

1014
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: just don't. They thought Darnold might be it, and he

1015
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: played pretty well those first couple of weeks he did.

1016
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: They started three and zero, well, they played a really

1017
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: soft schedule, and we know now that it was a

1018
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: soft schedule, and then he just dropped off the cliffs. So,

1019
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: by the way, it's not all it's not all on

1020
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Coach, Matt Rule, you lead the league in

1021
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: penalties with sixty five and does that not go back

1022
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. So there are other issues with

1023
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: this Carolina team that you know the Cardinals. So look

1024
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: to me, we've seen it at home. We've seen some

1025
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: slow starts. Not just me, Calvin Beacham brought it up

1026
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: last week with the media. So the big even with

1027
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: Cole McCoy at quarterback, I think the biggest fears how

1028
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: did the Cardinals come out? How did they come out

1029
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: at home against the Carolina team that's lost five or six.

1030
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: The offense must look absolutely dreadful on film. The defense

1031
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: was just throttled by Mac Jones, who, by the way,

1032
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: had that dirty play on Brian Burns, who one of

1033
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: the best pass rushers who may not play in this

1034
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: game because of it. And you ask anyone of that

1035
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals locker room, that's the one play out of that

1036
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: game film against the Patriots. Everyone is sighting, well, how

1037
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: does Mac Jones get away with that? That mma? Wwe

1038
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: move where he's yank son to Brian Burne's leg and

1039
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: then not only Yankee yank Yankee then turns it, you

1040
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: know almost and all those guys want and in fact

1041
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick went off after the game and want to No,

1042
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: wait a minute, if the quarterback is untouchable and the

1043
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: moment you lean on a quarterback, you're gonna get fined

1044
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: every Tuesday. Don't the defenders get a little protection from

1045
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in these sort of situations. So I think the

1046
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: entire league, every locker room, is looking at the NFL

1047
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: and how they respond to what Mac Jones did in

1048
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: that play. I would agree with that, and it's gonna

1049
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: be interesting. And if they don't do anything going, if

1050
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: i'd want to be Mac Jones to be honest, yeah,

1051
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: I agree. Um So, by the way, did you ever

1052
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: post your midseason awards at halftime? Darren? You did post him?

1053
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: What you like? You're two people power PowerBar that you

1054
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: can't look at my mid season stuff? Well, first I

1055
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: got to carry Frederickson and Drew Stannon and Kyle Vannerbosch

1056
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: at halftime, you know, And then and then I got

1057
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: to chase down Cliff Kingsbury as he's coming out of

1058
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: the two tweets. Two tweets, all right, but I did

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Speaker 1: do it. Who were the award winners? Give me the headliner?

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Speaker 1: I think I said Murray was most valuable, okay, and

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: then I said Byron Murphy was most improved, and then

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00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: I got everybody angry because they said it was Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: And then, uh, I don't know what if I said

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Speaker 1: anything else. Let me look at that up. Let me

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Speaker 1: look that up. What's the Twitter handle again, Darren? What's it?

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Speaker 1: D you know what little cross promotion? I can't believe

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00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: you said that at Car's chatter there you go. Why

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00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: have you even getting some blowback on that as well?

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Speaker 1: People do know it. No, I just I'm I want

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Speaker 1: you to go ahead. Man. You know cross promoted over there,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I just thought i'd by the way,

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Speaker 1: fleep a year take. What was the take from the

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00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: press box when Cliff Kingsbury went after the official and

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00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: then it ended up knows the face masks with Josh Norman. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have the unfortunate enough to learn the

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00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: game from our own. Torlando Canto already mentioned him ex

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00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal's offensive lineman, and I asked him, you know

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Speaker 1: what type of energy does does that give a player?

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Speaker 1: You know? I mean, but when you're head coach is

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00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: more fired up than you. I mean, that's automatically. That's

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00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: gonna get you fired up. You know, it gives you

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Speaker 1: confidence to do your job most importantly, and I think

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00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: it's set the tone from that point moving forward. There

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00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: they were already up fourteen to zero, but then I

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00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: think they just took it to another another level when

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Speaker 1: when it comes to intensity. And I was I was

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00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: scrolling through Twitter right uh this during my lunch, right

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00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: before this this podcast, and I came across this video

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00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: of Draymond Green. I'm gonna switch sports for like a

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00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: couple of seconds. They were interviewing about he was at

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: a press conference and he was talking about how during

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00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: one other game he went over to his head coach

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00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: and Steve Curve, and he said, hey, can you, you know,

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00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: change your body language a little bit because they committed

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00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers and whatnot, and longshore shore Steve

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: Kerr changed his body language. He was more energetic, and

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00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: then the team ended up winning and you know, everything,

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00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: everything was all good. And it brought me to this

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00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: this moment with Cliff Kingsbury. I mean, they were it

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00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: wasn't they were already up, like I said, But once

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00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: a player sees a coach be that fired up, you

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00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: saw DJ Humps, you saw what he did. He went on,

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: he went up to Josh Norman and you know he

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00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: gave him a slight Headbut you know, DeAndre Hopkins was

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00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: right next to Kingsbury. He was fired up as well.

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Speaker 1: So it just gives the team a certain level of

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00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: confidence again to do their job to get him fired up,

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00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: to set the tone, especially defensively, and I think they

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00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: succeeded in that. I mean, was it Kingsbury said he

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00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been on the field, He shouldn't have done

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00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: any of that, But in that moment as a player,

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Speaker 1: I'm I mean, they were equally as fired up as Cliff.

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00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: You know. On the radio side, his comments to us

1114
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: were a little different than when he told the postgame presser,

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00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: I believe, and he said when the two flags came out,

1116
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: he thought he was ejected. He thought both were on him. Initially,

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00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: that's what he told. I can't remember if he said.

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00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: I think he did say thought both flags were on him.

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he said he thought he was ejected.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about that whole thing with me, Paul,

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00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: was that like that was like the fourth or fifth

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: time he was out on the field, Oh yeah. I

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00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: mean he was on the field a lot early in

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Speaker 1: the game, way more than I've ever seen him before,

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Speaker 1: and I just I found that to be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he obviously downplayed the emotion and after

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00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: the end of the game and everything like that, but

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00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: it was just, I don't know, it was it was

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: definitely an interesting side to him, and it to me,

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Speaker 1: it just kind of underscored it. He didn't really say this,

1131
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: but it just kind of made me feel like this

1132
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: was a big deal to him, like he really wanted

1133
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: to have one under belt that Okay, even if Kyler's

1134
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: not here, I can coach up a win. And he

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of keep off that vibe for sure. Every sideline

1136
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: has what they called the get back guy. Yeah, and

1137
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: he's in charge of when people get fired up and

1138
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: they start gravitating towards the field because that will result

1139
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: in a flag. And it's happened I think under Wizzenon

1140
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: it did happen once. It's the last time I remember

1141
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals sideline getting a flag for being out of

1142
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: It's a couple of the assistant strength guys and so,

1143
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: but it's a different dynamic when you're trying to basically

1144
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: go Draymond Green Filippe and block out someone and push

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00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: him back to the sideline. It's one thing if it's

1146
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: a rookie, it's not a thing if it's like the

1147
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: assistant you know, special teams coach. But when it's the

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00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: head coach and you're an assistant strength coach and you're

1149
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: trying to shove the head coach back, there's always a

1150
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: little reticence. There's always a little hesitation like, Okay, this

1151
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: is the CEO, and am I how physical am I

1152
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna get trying to keep him on the sideline, And

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00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: there's it's always an interesting dynamic. But to Darren's point,

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: he was out there quite a bit. And it's not

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Speaker 1: the first time that DJ Humphreys has intervened. There was

1156
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: a moment with Mike Rabel in Week one where there

1157
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: was an exchange and DJ Humphreys sort of stepped in

1158
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: between and was a personal protector for his head coach,

1159
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: and so that was that's intriguing And as you know,

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: as DJ said after the game, I'm not playing that.

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00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm not letting some cornerback flex on my head coach.

1162
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's why I drama line My favorite

1163
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: part was he's like, I was looking for Josh Norman

1164
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: after the game, and he goes, I haven't took my

1165
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: helmet off, give him the advantage. So supposedly, and I

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: didn't witness this, but supposedly Cliff and Josh Norman talked

1167
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: after the game. And I will say this, I was

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00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: obviously behind Cliff Kingsbury and and he was very aggressive

1169
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: and going out into that field and then he was

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00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: barking at Josh Norman. I was shocked to see that

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00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: he was smiling at one point during the exchange when

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I actually saw the TV side and I saw what

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't see, and that was him from the front side,

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00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: that he was actually smiling at one point, because that

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: did not seem to be his demeanor either before or

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: after that play on the sideline, he was a hundred

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Speaker 1: percent game face. Yeah, And and there's no doubt And

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00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: Chase Edmons said it on The Big Red Rage about

1179
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: a month ago. Christian Kirk hinted at it this week

1180
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: that the coach has an extra edge to him and

1181
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: the guys know it and they're feeding off it, and

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I think I think it's making a difference really. And

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: then of course, there's James Connor, who is another guy

1184
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: who's sort of setting the tone when he runs in

1185
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: for one and then comes back to the defense and screams,

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00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 1: you know, hey, are you guys with me? You guys

1187
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: with me? It's that dude is a tone setter on

1188
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: game day. He's having an unbelievable season. Where do you

1189
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: think his season is going? As we get it to

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00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: the point here we're gonna wrap up Cardinals underground? I mean,

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, zoom out. I mean, can this continue? And

1192
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: where is he going to end up at this point?

1193
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: Remember the all time record for touchdowns in a season

1194
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: is David Johnson twenty sixteen. He had twenty. He had

1195
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: sixteen rushing touchdowns. Is James Connor going to threaten that?

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00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's gonna threaten it the way

1197
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: this offense is going and the in the way that

1198
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: they use him near the line because he's the guy inside.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he stays healthy and a seventeen game season, yeah,

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01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: absolutely gonna he's gonna find his Chase Edmonds for two

1201
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: to four weeks. Well, the thing is is like now

1202
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: it's like my question is do you do you ramp up?

1203
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: You know, a little bit more, because what you don't

1204
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: want is that James Connor is sholding us so much

1205
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: the load over the next four or five games that

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01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: he's not effective down the stretcher in the playoffs. That's

1207
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: not whether you don't want that either. By the way,

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01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: did you guys realize Zane Gonzalez is the kicker for

1209
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. He's having a great season, actually saying

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01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: is a great guy, and you know we wish him

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: all the best. Yeah, he's hit twelve in a row

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01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: and he's fifteen to seventeen this year. I'm looking at it,

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01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 1: and he has a career long fifty seven yard field

1214
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: goal this year for Carolina. So let's just hope there

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: isn't a game winning situation where he has a chance

1216
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: to kick because it should not be that close. I

1217
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: would be based on what we have seen from this

1218
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Carolina team that has been struggling, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. I think we got had a

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Speaker 1: lot accomplished. This edition of Cardinals Underground brought to you

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Speaker 1: earned that personalized license plate on this edition here, Felipe,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that's not yours, not at all, we

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Speaker 1: might have it donated to the Cardinals Underground podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was on a very luxurious sedan, so you know,

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Speaker 1: either you've made some good stock picks lately, Felipe, if

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Speaker 1: you're driving, if you have that sort of ride, um,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely not in my you know, you're not You're

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Speaker 1: not driving a no, not a six figure luxury stand.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you said fancy, I said, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely not me. That'll do it. Zero cap here

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