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Speaker 1: The whole month of March, we are celebrating International Women's
Speaker 1: Day and.
Speaker 2: Women's History Month, and speaking of women, the Oscars just
Speaker 2: happened twenty twenty five, and there were a lot of
Speaker 2: powerful women up there, and we are here to talk
Speaker 2: about all the things.
Speaker 1: Today speaking of women, very very powerful women, and some
Speaker 1: women that you felt like you've known your whole life,
Speaker 1: and some women that were new.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like I know half of them,
Speaker 2: and I've never met any of them.
Speaker 1: I liked that I didn't feel like I knew all
Speaker 1: of them. Well, here's spoiler alert and really a major
Speaker 1: downfall for me in this year's Oscar watching experience. That's
Speaker 1: all my fault. I take total responsibility for it. I
Speaker 1: had not seen a little movie called Honor, which wasn't
Speaker 1: a great idea given how things went, because well, or
Speaker 1: maybe this is why. This is why it's so advantageous
Speaker 1: when movies that were made in forty days and for
Speaker 1: not as much money as a giant blockbuster go on
Speaker 1: to win multiple Academy Awards. Is that people like me
Speaker 1: who haven't seen them are going to go see them.
Speaker 1: So there's this whole nother second wave of a viewership
Speaker 1: money to be made off of a wonderful movie. I
Speaker 1: was very taken by the fact that it was made
Speaker 1: in forty days, and I was very taken by the
Speaker 1: fact that it was made. I truly believed the filmmakers
Speaker 1: when they came up Sean Baker and then the many
Speaker 1: other categories that they wanted. But obviously he spent you know,
Speaker 1: he took a couple of trips up there for acceptances
Speaker 1: and to hold a golden statue. You know, really didn't
Speaker 1: make that movie thinking it was gonna win a bunch
Speaker 1: of Academy Awards. And I love that about the Oscars
Speaker 1: when I was a little girl, and Whippy Goldberg and
Speaker 1: Billy Crystal and all these incredible comedians would host it.
Speaker 1: I remember the sign off at the end of it
Speaker 1: was really kind of like to the.
Speaker 2: Kids watching, Yeah, if.
Speaker 1: You believe in yourself, if you've a dream, if you
Speaker 1: believe yourself in yourself, if you're a storyteller, one day
Speaker 1: you're going to be up here and it was and
Speaker 1: I really believed it because I was a little girl,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I will be one day, one day,
Speaker 1: one day.
Speaker 2: Well you've okay, let's just talk about this because you
Speaker 2: have been in that room and you laughed at me
Speaker 2: because I haven't, And I was like, I just love
Speaker 2: the table same way.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, I laughed at you because you hadn't been
Speaker 1: at the Academy Awards. Is that really what happened?
Speaker 2: You did get a giggle because I talked about how
Speaker 2: great the tables were there, and you're like, Kimilla's never
Speaker 2: been there were no, Well.
Speaker 1: That's just you being wrong.
Speaker 2: That was me laughing at you not having been at
Speaker 2: the Academy Awards.
Speaker 1: Well you don't look at that, because you know, when
Speaker 1: she says things with such great authority, maybe you might
Speaker 1: want to question them.
Speaker 2: Well, you have been in the room, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I've been in the room where it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't feel is it a little stuffy?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is supposed to be a shortened suitet.
Speaker 1: I could talk about this ship for days. I've been
Speaker 1: to the Academy Awards twice. Okay, audience member, and the
Speaker 1: first time that I went, I was eighteen. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I know, And I remember feeling like it was a
Speaker 1: complete out of body experience, like I was in a
Speaker 1: land I'd never been to before. Because when you're sitting
Speaker 1: there in those seats, you know, you see it on TV.
Speaker 1: You've just never seen such a dense population of people
Speaker 1: that you recognize and feel some sort of relationship to
Speaker 1: from their work, but you actually have zero relationship to
Speaker 1: them at all. And if you said hi, they would.
Speaker 2: Like, who are you? Right? Because yeah, who are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because and I remember, by the way, I will tell you,
Speaker 1: I remember the people that smiled at me versus the
Speaker 1: people who looked through.
Speaker 2: Me or over me, or all that who smiled.
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone, Oh, I love that. I later went on
Speaker 1: to work with her and I told her how much
Speaker 1: it meant to be, you know, someone of not much
Speaker 1: importance in the grand scheme of things in that kind
Speaker 1: of room and to have someone smile at you. Yeah
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: She was yeah anyways, But it was just, you know,
Speaker 2: it was one celebrity after another.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's a it's a high.
Speaker 2: It's a high.
Speaker 1: It's a high concentration of power. And and also I.
Speaker 2: Mean we already know. I'm a big old nerd, but talent, You're.
Speaker 1: Just like, these people are so good at their job, Like,
Speaker 1: no one gets to go to the Academy Awards and
Speaker 1: be nominated unless you're.
Speaker 2: Really really got at your job. Well, let me ask you,
Speaker 2: because you were talking about okay, if you were eighteen,
Speaker 2: this is a hot minute ago when they were probably
Speaker 2: like movie stars, yeah, like real like and I my
Speaker 2: question to you is is do you think that we
Speaker 2: still have the movie star? And if not, what has
Speaker 2: technically ruined that? Like?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Because the tom Cruisers of the world, they're few and
Speaker 2: far between, and back in the day they were like
Speaker 2: so many, right, yeah, and so those rooms are packed
Speaker 2: with like oh aw, and it doesn't quite to me,
Speaker 2: doesn't quite feel like that anymore.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. And I feel like there's two sides
Speaker 1: to that coin, because one side is, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: really special place reserved for a movie star just because
Speaker 1: they've got that I don't know, million dollar smile, because
Speaker 1: they have a far reach, because they make you feel
Speaker 1: some kind of way, because their body of work is
Speaker 1: so extensive that you actually feel like you know them
Speaker 1: from a million different world where they've proved themselves and
Speaker 1: they've done comedies and action movies.
Speaker 2: And you know, a movie star.
Speaker 1: And I guess when I'm talking about movie star, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about like a Tom Cruise and Nicole.
Speaker 2: Rabbits, Denzel Washington, like a movie star. Yeah.
Speaker 1: On the other side of the coin is how cool
Speaker 1: is it the diversification that's happened in Hollywood where it's
Speaker 1: been like, there's so many different ways to entertain There's
Speaker 1: so many different platforms. It's not all in one movie theater.
Speaker 1: There's more chances for people to show you what they got,
Speaker 1: and so you've got more people, and by virtue of that,
Speaker 1: you don't it's not the same people over and over again.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of different people. So I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, going back to Anorra Mikey Madison, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know her when she did the spoof during
Speaker 1: the SAG Awards about how she played the Manson follower
Speaker 1: they got yeah, dog food cancer in her face by
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt and then lit on fire and thrown into
Speaker 1: a pool. I vaguely remember her from that.
Speaker 2: She wasn't I remember those I remember some of those scenes.
Speaker 2: She was also in Better Things, which was a great show.
Speaker 2: She played like the teenage daughter of the lead. But
Speaker 2: she I there's something about her that's so incredible. I did.
Speaker 2: I have to say, I did want Cynthia to win.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a little biased. So some Wick kids
Speaker 2: onto my house like twelve hours seventh all day long,
Speaker 2: every day. And when you watch them behind the scenes
Speaker 2: of them, yes, singing live, the beautiful acting. She's incredible.
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of her for so long. I
Speaker 2: loved her in The Outsider and then she's the stunts
Speaker 2: that she's doing while she's singing. It's hard to it's
Speaker 2: hard to like. I thought they had it in the bag,
Speaker 2: both her and Ariana. Yeah, it really did.
Speaker 1: Also, just how about the way they look at each other.
Speaker 1: It's like the way you and I look at each other.
Speaker 2: I would hold your nails. I would hold your nails too.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing that God, all these movies are
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot more. They'll definitely get a reinvigoration
Speaker 1: in the movie theater. So I actually really want to
Speaker 1: go see them. But I'm definitely Honora is happening this weekend.
Speaker 1: That's gonna happen for sure. I'm seeing that. I listen,
Speaker 1: I watched it with my kids. We nothing lights up
Speaker 1: their eyes the way that Cynthia and Ariana do right now.
Speaker 1: So I was very grateful for that first moment, and
Speaker 1: in terms of musical numbers and everything else, I really
Speaker 1: felt like they delivered. I mean like I could have
Speaker 1: turned it off right after that and been.
Speaker 2: Like I could have too. I got a show, honestly.
Speaker 2: That and last year's Ryan Gosling singing Ken.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, Eve was there for that. So
Speaker 1: not only have I been, but my daughter, one of
Speaker 1: my daughters, has been, oh, she's oh and she said
Speaker 1: that that was a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a moment, Yeah, she was. How about
Speaker 2: Adam Sandler? You know, I'm jealous of Adam Sandler. I
Speaker 2: truly I want to show up to every event just
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: It's slot status.
Speaker 2: It's slow exactly, and you know my slothy feels, I know.
Speaker 1: And Conan, you know, listen, I love Conan. Conan makes
Speaker 1: me laugh harder than any other late night host.
Speaker 2: What did you think of Adrian Brody's speech? First off,
Speaker 2: speech going on and then they cut you know, the
Speaker 2: music cut out. Do you think that actors should be
Speaker 2: allowed to just have free range of however long that
Speaker 2: speech or do we need a little limit because we
Speaker 2: can bang on about stuff forever?
Speaker 1: We can bang on and also like talk about ourselves
Speaker 1: for sure, How.
Speaker 2: Long do we have what's a better way to what's
Speaker 2: a better way to get us off the stage? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because starting the music doesn't seem to be worthy?
Speaker 2: No, No, In fact, I think it pumps some people up,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like they get encouraged
Speaker 2: by it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the ones that go on the longest
Speaker 1: or the youngest in their family orders, because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit like I got the stage. Motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: you know what, you usually talk over me or you
Speaker 1: don't let me finish me, but I've got the mic.
Speaker 2: I think that's middle children. You get babied when you're
Speaker 2: the baby, and the oldest child always gets So I
Speaker 2: think that's like I wonder we have to google is
Speaker 2: Adrian Brody middle Childuse? I get it.
Speaker 1: Because it would explain things.
Speaker 2: I do think that there should sort of be like,
Speaker 2: you know how the joke of Ben still Er, you
Speaker 2: know how he came up and it like broke that
Speaker 2: was hilarious. That was really funny, but I feel like
Speaker 2: if you're doing a speech, you should slowly just sing.
Speaker 2: It just should be a thing that like lowers you
Speaker 2: yeah yeah into a tunnel that you then go through
Speaker 2: so that you really can't you do get cut off.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like at some point, weren't weren't they
Speaker 1: trying out just like muting their mic doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: We'll bring doctors just pulling out of your back pocket.
Speaker 2: You don't think there's a mic in someone's purse whipping
Speaker 2: that out undeterred And the problem the problem is is
Speaker 2: like then the next person's speech, someone wins for something
Speaker 2: you know else and then their speech is cut shorter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you know his speech tickled me, pink. Okay,
Speaker 1: I worked with him a million years ago, so I
Speaker 1: have a soft spot for him, and I.
Speaker 2: Need to say, Karen, yes, that was the perfect speech. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you know that a lot of people have given
Speaker 1: him flack.
Speaker 2: Why if I was like sexist or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I meanwhile, I to those people, I would say,
Speaker 1: just a suggestion, what was into girl? Into understanding with? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean again, a I know his personality, so I
Speaker 1: know his humor. But they did a really great job
Speaker 1: of panning to his wife, Jazz, and she was so
Speaker 1: in on the joke, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: there was no he was saying stuff and she was going,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I wonder how this is gonna play.
Speaker 1: She was like laughing along with it and talking back.
Speaker 1: It was very funny.
Speaker 2: I don't think the joke was about having kids. The
Speaker 2: joke was really about her underestimating him enough to be like,
Speaker 2: I'll get you in for the oscar and then he
Speaker 2: won the oscar. Yeah, I felt like that was the
Speaker 2: funny part.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly. Well and honestly that's how
Speaker 1: I feel, That's how I heard it. I he got
Speaker 1: a little bit of black and maybe they thought it
Speaker 1: was the anvicey I don't know, for evidently perpetuating misogyny,
Speaker 1: and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't I didn't see that, So.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I And again I adore him. He is.
Speaker 1: He is as as funny and as ridiculous and kind
Speaker 1: of crass and crude as he seems when he goes
Speaker 1: up there, and at the same time, he's also as winning,
Speaker 1: like he's just a winning human being, like he's he's
Speaker 1: got a real of vulnerability and a kindness and honestly
Speaker 1: very When I worked with him, he was very like
Speaker 1: he's cheeky and all that, but he's protective and loyal
Speaker 1: and I loved that. I mean, my gosh, how many relationships.
Speaker 1: How many people in this business have had their manager
Speaker 1: for thirty plus years.
Speaker 2: That's a really long time.
Speaker 1: But by the way, the other thing that the thing
Speaker 1: that I thought actually was funnier than anything in his
Speaker 1: speech was.
Speaker 2: When he thanked his parents.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like thank you for doing such a
Speaker 1: great job. It was like, you're good people, and you
Speaker 1: tried your best.
Speaker 2: Genius genius. I don't even know. I mean I would,
Speaker 2: I would think Mark Lunnington, but I have to really
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what part how OHI
Speaker 2: I would do that? Wait can you just can you
Speaker 2: take it first? Stab it and I just take it first. Stop.
Speaker 1: You just want best, you asked, you want best actress?
Speaker 2: You did your best? Is true?
Speaker 1: Wait no, no, but like, okay, you're up there ready,
Speaker 1: you've WoT up and the award goes to Milla Luddington. Okay,
Speaker 1: so for up there on the stage. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: on the stage, and I would say you're kind of
Speaker 1: crying a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm not really though, I don't think I'm not smiling. No, no,
Speaker 2: I think that. I So the first thing I would
Speaker 2: say was like, I saw this coming. It's been in
Speaker 2: the works for years, so this is no surprise to anybody.
Speaker 2: That's how I'd ease into it.
Speaker 1: I'm laughing so hard it's silent.
Speaker 2: And then I'd say, Mark, thank you the good times.
Speaker 2: I don't know, this is actually you know what. This
Speaker 2: was a conversation online. They were saying that everyone needs
Speaker 2: a professional speech writer because as actors, we think that
Speaker 2: we know what we're gonna say. It's gonna be so
Speaker 2: insightful and amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're actually really not.
Speaker 2: It's because our brains go blank when it comes tops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew. His brain did not go blank. And
Speaker 1: I very appreciated it. And I cried so hard. My
Speaker 1: kids and never like when I cry because it makes
Speaker 1: them feel sad, and I'm like, no, no of these
Speaker 1: her happy tears. Zoe Saldana, Oh, I loved her speech.
Speaker 2: I mean, she just sweeped the whole thing she did.
Speaker 1: But when she was talking about her partner and just
Speaker 1: her I don't know all of it.
Speaker 2: She got me, She got me, Okay, if you want
Speaker 2: to talk about controversial. The other thing, the other moment
Speaker 2: that got a lot of flack was Adrian Brodie. He
Speaker 2: gets up on stage, he takes out his gum and
Speaker 2: he threw tossed it to his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah before he even got on stage.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to say he maybe forgot he was chewing
Speaker 1: gum and then thought maybe I shouldn't be chewing gum.
Speaker 2: He was up the steps and he threw it to
Speaker 2: his girlfriend, and people are not happy about that. I
Speaker 2: would like to give him the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: that like in the moment he was like, crap, I'm
Speaker 2: chewing gum. I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 2: I can't put it in my pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to think that for some reason he
Speaker 1: lost his mind for a second, he lost it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because because you do. You want to think that there's
Speaker 1: some other choice, like there's I don't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think i'm I think I'm swallowing it. I
Speaker 1: think maybe you swallow it putting it in my hand
Speaker 1: and then putting it in my pocket.
Speaker 2: I think you put it in your pocket.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe in the little lapel pocket or
Speaker 1: in my side pocket, if in my right.
Speaker 2: Before I do my incredible speech, I'm walking up and
Speaker 2: I'm like shit, and I turn around, I see you
Speaker 2: when we make eyes, and I take out my gum
Speaker 2: and I launch it at your head. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Are you doing like a baseball mic catch? You're not
Speaker 2: catching it, Jessica, You're not.
Speaker 1: I again, I do think in these moments, if we
Speaker 1: want to go brain chemistry, our prefrontal cortex thinking brain
Speaker 1: does actually completely shut down, like in the moments of
Speaker 1: extreme situation that I can't even imagine. And so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that, oh, you're catching the brain wasn't working,
Speaker 1: because if the brain was working and there was mused
Speaker 1: gum tossing at anyone, really, yeah, you would probably not
Speaker 1: I don't know, you probably wouldn't look back on that moment.
Speaker 1: You know what. Here's the thing, though, We talk about
Speaker 1: this shit all the time. So here's what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say about that, because I actually know both of those
Speaker 1: people and they're both very good people. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this. We talk about on the show all the time.
Speaker 1: You can have a you can have you can hit
Speaker 1: the reset button by apologizing or just taking a little accountability,
Speaker 1: or just like calling it out and being like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know I wanted to Oscar yesterday and there was
Speaker 1: this moment and uh, you know, brain wasn't working and
Speaker 1: I tossed that.
Speaker 2: I think it's an easy yes, But I think this
Speaker 2: is where like sometimes as actors, I don't know who's
Speaker 2: advising people, because I feel like if you got into
Speaker 2: an interview and someone asked you about that, the most charming,
Speaker 2: like it's all done with thing to say in the moment,
Speaker 2: it's exactly that, be like, you know what, I look
Speaker 2: so stupid. I if I could take it back, I would.
Speaker 2: I literally had a brain fart.
Speaker 1: I was so lost.
Speaker 2: I didn't know I lost my mind. And then I
Speaker 2: threw my gum hard and I was horrified, so oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, yeah why everyone else was horrified, and it
Speaker 2: would be done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and so easy.
Speaker 2: It's so easy, and it's done with, and you're and honestly,
Speaker 2: I love you a little bit more. I actually really
Speaker 2: like you a little bit more. Absolutely, you just called
Speaker 2: yourself out and you're just like, you know, and then
Speaker 2: it's done with. Then. But I feel like people I
Speaker 2: don't know if.
Speaker 1: They're being it's hard. You said something and it kind
Speaker 1: of maybe it's a new service that you might want
Speaker 1: to offer up to people. What if we get we
Speaker 1: don't we not professional speech is written for actors, but
Speaker 1: we just on the people we think might win. We
Speaker 1: just put little earwigs in little ear wigs where we
Speaker 1: could just you know, feed them this speech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because you know what, we know what. I
Speaker 2: am a person that would absolutely blink. Yes, I would
Speaker 2: like on every every single person in my life, I
Speaker 2: would forget that's name. And then I find it cringe
Speaker 2: if you take out the paper, because then it looks
Speaker 2: like a prepared to see and that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I will say from I have heard from people who
Speaker 1: have been on been on that ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the time you.
Speaker 1: Get to the end of the Awards season.
Speaker 2: You are exhaust happed out.
Speaker 1: You are truly exhausted. Yeah, like in a real way,
Speaker 1: which sounds like bullshit, but I'm telling you, I think
Speaker 1: it's a real way. Okay, So I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 1: What do you actually really watch the Academy Awards for?
Speaker 2: I do watch it for the fashion, of course, the glam.
Speaker 1: Yes, what are you wearing all that. Who do you
Speaker 1: think look fantastic? I mean Arianna in that ugh Schopparelli
Speaker 1: ch yep. I loved it.
Speaker 2: Obsessed with that dress when she on the carpet, and
Speaker 2: then the the red one with the heel, the red
Speaker 2: one with the heel in the back was insane. And
Speaker 2: then Cynthia in that deep deep and then lord white.
Speaker 2: I like the white too, was a change up for her.
Speaker 1: I thought Lupita Niango looked gorgeous. I think it was
Speaker 1: Prada and it was just I'm a little I go
Speaker 1: a little girly. I like the little of the bows
Speaker 1: and this. I thought it was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: If you like the bows. And did you like el
Speaker 2: Fanning's white with the black beow?
Speaker 1: I think she always looks beautiful.
Speaker 2: She looks like a Disney princess. Always.
Speaker 1: She does look like a Disney princess. Okay, well, speaking
Speaker 1: of Disney princesses, I am this is not I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to throw shade. I'm just pointing out some things
Speaker 1: that sometimes happened, and it's not anyone's fault. But I
Speaker 1: did not think that Rachel Zegler's dress fit her. It
Speaker 1: was like pulling the boobs down.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know what this is. This is a
Speaker 2: common situation for me on the causset. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it because you, I mean, this girl is so gorgeous.
Speaker 2: It yon slipping of the dress happens, and then it
Speaker 2: like photographs that way. It's gotta be the fit.
Speaker 1: Listen, all these things are like a wedding dress. You
Speaker 1: gotta get them fit like the day before. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought Halle Berry looked fucking hot.
Speaker 2: She always looks.
Speaker 1: Oh but she and Selena Gomez.
Speaker 2: Selena Gomez was one of my favorite beyond I mean talk,
Speaker 2: I mean, she really does look like snow white right now,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 1: Beyond so so so beautiful. I love I love her
Speaker 1: With Benny Blanco, I know, with this little his jacket
Speaker 1: over the shoulder.
Speaker 2: I think he's got some swagger and I think so too.
Speaker 2: And I think that they're real cutee real cute.
Speaker 1: They're real cute. How do you feel about a non
Speaker 1: traditional tuxedo? You're talking about Timothy right, Well, it's not
Speaker 1: just Timothy. It actually I'm gonna just say the non
Speaker 1: traditional tuxedo on the guys truly makes me. Actually I
Speaker 1: point to me, I personally, I think it's me that's
Speaker 1: the problem, Like, Hi, it's me on the problem. That's
Speaker 1: me because maybe I'm just like too old. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: a whole like non traditional tuxedo for them men that's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, for a younger set of gal I.
Speaker 2: Think it's too boring and easy to do a tuck.
Speaker 2: So I feel like when they go out there, like
Speaker 2: Andrew Garfield, I think killed it. I think he looked hot, yep,
Speaker 2: looked amazing, right, And it was a little it was
Speaker 2: a little spin on it, the chocolate hole situation he
Speaker 2: had going on in a little.
Speaker 1: Like seventies, a little like yeah, now on Jeremy Strong,
Speaker 1: I gotta say the green. I mean, so I feel
Speaker 1: like with Timothey and with Andrew Garfield day like they
Speaker 1: went monotone, non traditional, one yellow, one chocolate brown, like
Speaker 1: I was picking up what they were putting down, like
Speaker 1: it might not have been what I would have chosen,
Speaker 1: but but I liked it. But then Jeremy Strong the green.
Speaker 1: Then he put in the kind of off kilter bow tie,
Speaker 1: and he lost me.
Speaker 2: I think a different color.
Speaker 1: But I might still be punishing him for playing that
Speaker 1: character in succession because I really didn't like that character. No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're saying it means he was so good at his
Speaker 1: job that I can't stand him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, if you were nominated and you get to
Speaker 2: go to the Oscars, what is the collar that you're wearing?
Speaker 2: And do you think that you jinx the gold by
Speaker 2: wearing gold?
Speaker 1: You just I just want you to know. This is
Speaker 1: one of the many reasons you're my best friend. Is
Speaker 1: you just asked me a question that I've been waiting
Speaker 1: to be asked my whole life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is just happen. One.
Speaker 1: I still think I'm going to make it there one day.
Speaker 2: You can, because you know what Demi Moore was right
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 1: What are you trying to say?
Speaker 2: I think there's time.
Speaker 1: How long do you think I have to wait? Ye know,
Speaker 1: so much time?
Speaker 2: No, I think you just write You're going to star
Speaker 2: in my horror movie and get nominated. Yes, yeah, they okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: So you get nominated.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get nominated, and in order to distract myself
Speaker 1: from the ultimate frozen fear that I'll feel upon having
Speaker 1: to come up with an acceptance speech. Now that you
Speaker 1: and I have had this conversation.
Speaker 2: I write it. I write this speech.
Speaker 1: I could go and earwork, please, I've already heard.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fifteen second speech. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 2: want you know what I want?
Speaker 1: You and Aaron's how about that you and Aaron Sorkin
Speaker 1: to collaborate on my acceptance.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can collab with him. I'll
Speaker 2: have to talk to him to discuss it with him.
Speaker 2: I don't mean my toes being stepped on.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm wearing Oh, I'm wearing something gorgeous. I'm
Speaker 1: wearing something gorgeous. I think I'm dipping into.
Speaker 2: I'm going. I think I'm going.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going old school Hollywood glamor. I think
Speaker 1: I'm going back into like the I'm looking at Grace
Speaker 1: Kelly for inspo.
Speaker 2: I can see that.
Speaker 1: I think I I think I might be past my
Speaker 1: giant princess skirt days. I think, yeah, I might want
Speaker 1: something a little more. Uh, I don't know fitted slinky fitted.
Speaker 2: I can see you when like I said, I like structure, though,
Speaker 2: I think I'm metallic for you.
Speaker 1: But you were saying I my jink said by wearing gold.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why I said a silver Yeah, stressful.
Speaker 1: Well, we've got time, according to you, for me to
Speaker 1: figure this out, so we'll just keep workshopping it more
Speaker 1: time than we need.
Speaker 2: I think that I obviously join you for the Vanity
Speaker 2: Fair because they don't let me in unless I want
Speaker 2: to cater and oh, even though they don't have food.
Speaker 2: I forgot they don't have food. Sorry. I never been
Speaker 2: trus by the way that talk about.
Speaker 1: I mean, so if I thought that being of the
Speaker 1: Academy Awards was a lot of you know, a high
Speaker 1: density of famous people, the Vanity Fair party is like
Speaker 1: your shouldered or shoulder.
Speaker 2: You can't even believe it, You're just like everyone. That
Speaker 2: party looks so stressful to me. It's like the met Gala.
Speaker 2: Both those parties look like high stress to me.
Speaker 1: I haven't been to the Met Gala, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: high stress. It was more no. But I you know,
Speaker 1: people talk a lot about imposter syndrome, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't think i've really had it.
Speaker 2: I clearly think I'm exactly where I should be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you belong there, belong. I think that when I join
Speaker 2: you at the Vanity Fair party, after you've won, I'm
Speaker 2: going for like I'm going. I'm not going in the
Speaker 2: sheer I'm not going to go in the sheer dress.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of sheer dresses that this year.
Speaker 1: Well because according to you, will be too old for it.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, yes you're Let's just let's actually shorten
Speaker 1: the length of time.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say two years.
Speaker 1: Okay, lovely, all right, Yes, what are you wearing?
Speaker 2: What are you wearing? I think that I I think
Speaker 2: I go very sexy, though super sexy, not sheer. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 2: a little sluttie, I'm not. Yeah, no, a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think that's when you sort of get you sort
Speaker 2: of go a little crazy. Wait is this just for
Speaker 2: the party or for the awards too? This is for
Speaker 2: my life?
Speaker 1: Actually, I just okay, sorry, tomorrow morning for curpol. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's my other question. At this point, I think it
Speaker 1: now is accepted that, you know, those those high flyers,
Speaker 1: they're changing in between the awards and the party. It
Speaker 1: used to be you just had one dress, but not anymore. No,
Speaker 1: and I would not two outfits.
Speaker 2: I would not be excited about that either, because I
Speaker 2: there's nothing I love more. And then coming back from
Speaker 2: wearing something tight and just sip off and you're like
Speaker 2: done right, yeah, yeah, then you're zipping back into something else.
Speaker 2: No thank you, no, thank you, not unless like a onesie.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you who I think has the best
Speaker 2: night of the Oscars? I think the people that know
Speaker 2: that they're clearly not going to win, but they've been nominated. Yes,
Speaker 2: because you get to go. That's really the dream in
Speaker 2: a way, don't get the stress. Yeah, it's already been nominated.
Speaker 2: That's going to be beside your name forever.
Speaker 1: Like winning the bronze. You're just happy to be there.
Speaker 2: You're so you don't have to go, made it to
Speaker 2: the podium and like you can still get welcome. You
Speaker 2: don't have a Foster syndrome. You've been nominated. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's the way to go.
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe I need to realiz I'll reappoint my
Speaker 1: vision board. Question for you, how do you feel about
Speaker 1: all There seem to be a lot of outfits on
Speaker 1: the red carpets these days where it kind of reminds
Speaker 1: me of the Emperor's new clothes. You know, that's that
Speaker 1: children's story about how it convinced the Emperor that he's
Speaker 1: wearing a really great outfit, but he's actually naked and
Speaker 1: he walks through town and everyone's laughing at him.
Speaker 2: You think the stylists are convincing people that they look
Speaker 2: amazing naked.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's a lot of barely their clothes or completely
Speaker 1: see through clothes, right, which I don't actually, I don't
Speaker 1: think I have a formed opinion about it, and I
Speaker 1: have no judgment of like I got nothing around the
Speaker 1: like like bodies are beautiful, show me all of them? Great, great, great.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like there's a a fashion piece
Speaker 1: where it's like, I don't know, I got like.
Speaker 2: You know who I think does this really well? Zoey Kravitz.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, where you saw the little like there
Speaker 3: was like a peekaboo of her tush. Zoe Kravitz does
Speaker 3: this so well every year. She can do anything. But
Speaker 3: it looks like fashion, Like it looks like a and
Speaker 3: that looks like fashion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it looks like the nakedness is part
Speaker 1: of the fashion as opposed to just like I'm wearing
Speaker 1: something you can see through.
Speaker 2: Here's my boobies, here's my too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'm excited to accompany you in two years
Speaker 2: two well, just way from me from the car, because
Speaker 2: you'll be in and I won't let me in. I'll
Speaker 2: just wait from you from the uber from the uber pool.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure with other people, I'll just wait for
Speaker 2: you in my in my slutty outfit. I'll be the
Speaker 2: first one to walk the carpet and I'll just be
Speaker 2: waiting aside by myself. The bar won't even be open,
Speaker 2: but I'll be there.
Speaker 1: And you know what I am, and and and now
Speaker 1: we can put that on my vision board and on
Speaker 1: yours as well. And I don't even need to put
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need to manifest to win because
Speaker 1: now I've seen the light through your eyes and I
Speaker 1: just want to be nominated. I wantn't be nominated, and no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2: Win exactly right. And when you're on the carpet, they're like,
Speaker 2: who are you here with? You can be like, well,
Speaker 2: Camilla couldn't actually get in, but she is waiting at
Speaker 2: table five at the Vanny Fair party early right now.
Speaker 1: No no no, no, no, no, you got this wrong.
Speaker 1: It's your movie. I'm nominated for a remember, so you're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the far away from the stage
Speaker 2: because there's a balcony. I'm assuming you're in the mezzanine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm in the mes rosie. But I will bring my
Speaker 2: binoculars and I will love it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, And then they'll they'll yeah, and they
Speaker 1: already do.
Speaker 2: They'll figure out how to get a camera there for
Speaker 2: a reaction shot. Yeah, because I'm being my own camera. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we've lost our minds. It's another year of the Oscars.
Speaker 2: We're excited. I attend in twenty twenty six. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: I think it's time that we should call it. We
Speaker 2: should call it the end of the episode.