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Speaker 3: producer and co host of the infamous Fantasy Focused podcast.

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Speaker 1: He is here with me today.

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Speaker 3: Do you talk about everyone's favorite physician, which is running backs?

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Speaker 3: Let's just jump right in to Tyrian Davis Price. So

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan has quite the reputation of driving fantasy manager's

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Speaker 3: nuts with running backs. Obviously, addition of Davis Price sort

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Speaker 3: of muddies the water for people who may believe in

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Speaker 3: Elijah Mitchell last season obviously lost moster. But you know, like,

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Speaker 3: how do the forty nine ers rate for you in

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Speaker 4: As almost low as you can get? Like I have

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Speaker 1: They're so nice.

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Speaker 2: That's an you do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't know what to freaking do

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Speaker 4: He's if that he's average, Like that's the thing. He's

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Speaker 4: and going back through, I haven't seen anything that tells

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Speaker 4: game changer here in San Francisco. The positive, just like

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Speaker 4: it was for Ken Walker, is injuries. Forty nine Ers

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Speaker 2: They're both hurt.

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Speaker 4: They don't even want Troy Sermon on the team, and

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Speaker 4: so it feels like that would be the path to

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Speaker 4: Tyrian Davis Price. But I have almost zero interest in

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Speaker 4: rostering him in redraft this year because I just don't

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Speaker 4: I don't see that path. And and for nine Ers

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Speaker 4: running backs are just maddening to figure out. They just

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Speaker 3: these times where we're like, you know, like he's the

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Speaker 1: It's like and it's gone.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously very frustrating.

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Speaker 1: What the hell happened?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not super high on him. Do you

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Speaker 1: No, my player cop is Trey Sermon. They drafted Trey Sermon.

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Speaker 4: In the third round, a guy that I don't think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just like I think I've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 4: If you drafted Trace Sermon in Dynasty last year, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so give me prediction about his year one for fantasy.

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Speaker 4: He will not be relevant within redraft leagues in fantasy,

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'm pretty much with you there, I am. I'm

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Speaker 4: Let's say you, yeah, give me somebody else that has

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Speaker 4: I think is clearer than what he has.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, let us just move on to another scintillating franchise

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Speaker 3: that is Brian Robinson of the Commanders. He's obviously going

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Speaker 3: So, how does Washington rate for you in terms of

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Speaker 2: Oh that's tough.

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Speaker 4: I don't like Washington, but I like also Antonio Gibson

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Speaker 2: Than I think he will be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: There's not very many running in the NFL that have

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Speaker 3: Most people are not Derrick Henry, so but yeah, speaking

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Speaker 2: This is probably gonna sound terrible, but.

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Speaker 4: There are parts of his game that remind me of

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Speaker 2: I think That's where I'm at with him.

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Speaker 4: He will finished last on the team's depth chart in

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Speaker 3: He'd need to have a major injury to give some there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even then, I just it's not exciting, Like he's

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Speaker 4: No way, Jamie is absolutely way more just catching passes

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Speaker 3: Well, on that same topic of guys who ended up

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Speaker 4: Okay, in all honesty, I know that you're not a

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Speaker 2: I am not.

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Speaker 4: And listen, this is just as much about the situation

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Speaker 4: The biggest question mark is just going to be Texans

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Speaker 4: I like Damian Pierce quite a bit more than I

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Speaker 4: like in redraft.

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Speaker 2: But in redraft, I do like his value more than

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Speaker 4: Players that we talked about, just because of his path

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, I gave the Texans to be here,

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Speaker 3: I do certainly think that, like there's a very clear

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know that he'll go drafted in

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Speaker 1: That we were just talking about before. He's he's been

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Speaker 3: Super sure about is that he's had nine career games

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Speaker 3: just wasn't something that like profiles as you know, that

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Speaker 2: I am that is a thing that I'm nervous about.

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Speaker 4: Right, We're talking about what it is that he can

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Speaker 4: But guys that maybe didn't have unless I'm wrong on Avan,

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Speaker 4: Do you think that you're going to be able to

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Speaker 4: I'm really hoping that the Houston Texans are like, you

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Speaker 2: You know what Rex Burkhead is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what he is already, Like it's fine,

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Speaker 4: And you and no offense to Marlon Mack. But like

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Speaker 4: looking for this fourth round play, are to be able

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Speaker 2: The Lines did that with Theoretic, who was great for

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Speaker 1: So although that's how rings are won, you know, Leader absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Signing those guys, it's it's diamonds in the rough. But

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you some actually, and you tell

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Speaker 2: I like David Montgomery. That was going to be pretty

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Speaker 3: Ntmry's a volume guy like he has to That's basically

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Speaker 2: And I think that what is the Bears win total

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up, But why don't you talk?

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Speaker 4: So because that's that's one of the things that I'm

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Speaker 1: I just look it up.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I mean.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Ooh, I think Damian Pierce is going to have

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Speaker 4: I think Damian Pierce will finish top.

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Speaker 2: Thirty. Okay, I think he will be a top thirty

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Speaker 3: So I assume you are buying him as current a

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Speaker 4: I think, like ideally you'll uh, I think that if

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, I'm buying just based on the upside in

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Speaker 3: Time fair enough, I think that he's definitely worth taking

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Speaker 3: All Right, we've got two guys left. We're going to

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Speaker 1: Better with the addition of White.

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Speaker 3: Who could be I mean this is this is more

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Speaker 3: I mean he's not He's also not the only guy there.

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Speaker 1: So you know, how do how does Las Vegas rate

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Speaker 4: A landing spot after they didn't pick up Josh Jacob's

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Speaker 2: I have him as an as.

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Speaker 3: I certainly feel like that's got to be in a

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Speaker 4: I think the fact that that offense also in general,

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Speaker 2: I am interested to see the way that they're going

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Speaker 1: But so funny.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: With Josh Jacobs how they're going to utilize him this year,

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Speaker 4: make a run in the NFAFC West, then we are

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00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 4: just going to run you into the ground because we're

446
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 4: not worried about you past this year. We don't need

447
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 4: to worry about your contract or what your body is

448
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 4: going to be or and like, not that it's that callous,

449
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 4: but the idea of when you're not doing that and

450
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 4: you have that player, like that player is more of

451
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 4: a commodity to you for this year than it is

452
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 4: a long term prospect. So I think that is my

453
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 4: fear for Zamir White in this offense, at least for

454
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, even though the long term upside of

455
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 4: them not picking up his option is what it is

456
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 4: that has excited about this. So that's kind of where

457
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: my head's at, I think on this. On this landing spot, Yeah, I.

458
00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 1: Pretty much agree with you.

459
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: I mean, the Josh Leikub thing, I certainly am using

460
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: that as a signal here, Like it feels like he's

461
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: that they're just not sold on him. So I think

462
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 3: that Symer White was actually one of the more complete

463
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: type guys coming out of college. He just really didn't

464
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: have that whole workload. We've been talking about that a

465
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 3: lot and with James Cook sort of there, although he

466
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: has taken two rounds.

467
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: Later than Cook.

468
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: Like some scouts actually think that White was the more

469
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 3: complete player of the two. So I think that he's

470
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: just an interesting guy. He's a former five shower crew

471
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 3: out of high school, just wasn't much of a receiver,

472
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: like wasn't in that role. And he's got two ACL

473
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: tears on his curriculum vitae, one in each knee. So

474
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 3: there's certainly durability concerns, anything to add in terms of

475
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 3: your evaluation of him.

476
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 4: I think that's why you know he fell obviously when

477
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: you have those ACL tears, because when you look at

478
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: the rest of it, you know, he looks and runs

479
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 4: like a nice, real nice piece, real nice running back.

480
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Speaker 2: Man fingers. I would love to have.

481
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 4: I'm not a huge Josh Jacob stand so I would

482
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 4: love to have Zamir White be able to take over there.

483
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like the way he profiles.

484
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: Someone that comes to mind when I think about him

485
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: is maybe Joe Mix in similar sort of bodybuild and

486
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 3: running style.

487
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: So do you think that's a good player comp or

488
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: who did you have for that?

489
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 3: No?

490
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: I like there are aspects about Joe Mixon's game that

491
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: I think he was one of the guys that I

492
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: had that are close to that. And I think the

493
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: hardest part for any of these comps for me is

494
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: but just specifically with Zamir White and with James Cook,

495
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 4: is just like we have I as somebody that doesn't

496
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: when I watch college football, it's not doing the college

497
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: football season just because like my football life is NFL football,

498
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 4: right two percent.

499
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Saturdays are like my only day office.

500
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the only time that you have to breathe.

501
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: And by the way, while you breathe it on Saturday,

502
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: you're also like getting six thousand texts from people and

503
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 4: still like planning all your Monday content.

504
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: This guy or this guy.

505
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's it's a lot.

506
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: But so in watching a lot of this stuff after

507
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: the fact, there's just so little to be able to

508
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 4: look at for somebody like me. I for these guys

509
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: that I don't have as much college tape on, I

510
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: really rely on others that are are really good at

511
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: this to be able to, you know, take a lot

512
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 4: of what they've had and then try to project it

513
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 4: forth from from my perspective. But Zamir White is a

514
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 4: tough one for me just because I had I personally

515
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: have not had. You know, there's not as much tape

516
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 4: on him for me to be able to watch as

517
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: much as there was a Briese Hall and ken Walker

518
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: and totally.

519
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to say because it's like, what are

520
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: they going to look like when they don't have that

521
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: other piece of the committee. Will they just like sort

522
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: of figure it out? And do they still have that

523
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: skill set? They were just never asked to do that.

524
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean.

525
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: That's it's certainly a little bit murkier for a guy

526
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 3: like him, you know, for year one for fantasy. I

527
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: think this is going to be some kind of committee

528
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: which will probably render him more useless than anything. But

529
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: I think that like this is really more of a

530
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three type play for people that are thinking

531
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: of sort.

532
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: Of keeper or dynasty like that.

533
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: Are you buying or selling him at his ADP of

534
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: RB seventy three?

535
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 4: I mean at RB seventy three, I can't. It's like,

536
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 4: how do you not buy? Because again, if Josh Jacobs

537
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: gets hurt and I have the number one running back

538
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: in an AFC West offense, that.

539
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: Like over by the way right.

540
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: I think that RB seventy three is just too low

541
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: given that, but very like you're not drafting him with

542
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: the intention of probably being able to use him most

543
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: any weeks unless there is a path to clear playing time.

544
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: I agree, I'm buying him there. I mean, dirt cheap

545
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 3: at seventy three. All right, our final guy, I'm so

546
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: sorry I've kept you so long, but our final guy

547
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: is going to be Isaiah Spiller.

548
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: No relation to C. J.

549
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: Spiller, by the way, but the Bolts are a solid

550
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 3: landing spot in my opinion for Spiller. Obviously, he like

551
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: so he was not my favorite RB out of this class.

552
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: He's a polarizing type guy.

553
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: There are some people that had him at like the

554
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: top of their board, but you know, not my favorite.

555
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: But he could be an interesting foil for Austin Eckler

556
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: on that depth chart. So how do they rank for

557
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: you in terms of landing spot?

558
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: So as a landing spot for him as an NFL player,

559
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: I think it was a really nice spot. From a

560
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 4: fantasy perspective, I think it's less to me. I have

561
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: him projecting out as like a C plus CC plus,

562
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: mostly because Austin Eckler is going to continue to be

563
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: the guy while Isaiah Spiller. This is and you mentioned

564
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 4: earlier in the show you were talking to some of

565
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: the comps that you had, le've Aannbell being one of them,

566
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: and Le'Veon Bell is I think tough to be able

567
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: to compare people to as a comp because he's such

568
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: a The things that he did is just different and

569
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 4: that offensive line that that he had was was really special.

570
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: But he was a slower player. He is a guy

571
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: that tested slower.

572
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: And that's a big thing with Isaiah Spiller, Like it's

573
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 4: forty time was a four to six forty as a

574
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 4: running back. And when you look at that, that's not

575
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: the kind of a explosiveness that you're looking at a

576
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: guy or that that you know you're going to put

577
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands behind the line of scrimmage.

578
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: But some guys just I'm sorry, no, no, no, you go,

579
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: you go first, because we can go back and forth here.

580
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I just I thought you were done talking. I'm

581
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: so sorry.

582
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: I was just going to say another person who ran

583
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: a for almost four to seven forty was Aaron Foster.

584
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: So jumping ahead to my player comp, I'm just I'm

585
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: just saying, yeah, there are guys out there that are

586
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: not going to be the best at like wind sprints,

587
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 3: but like there are obviously other impangibles go on.

588
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: That's why I am a thousand percent arian. Foster is

589
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 4: another great comp Some of these guys just play faster.

590
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: And like, I know, we say this, everybody says this.

591
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: You've probably heard it a million times on every other show.

592
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 4: But some guys legitimately just have faster plane speeds than

593
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: they do forty times.

594
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: And that's okay.

595
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: And it's also all right if someone just like listen,

596
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: if Isaiah Spiller runs a four to sixty three, but

597
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: he's really good at a whole bunch of other stuff.

598
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: I promise you the difference that point two seconds in

599
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: his forty yard time is going to get made up

600
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 4: by all the other things that he does to be

601
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 4: able to help the Chargers win football games. Now, I

602
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 4: don't know if what that's going to mean for him

603
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: as a fantasy player, as a number two behind Austin Eckler,

604
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 4: he'd have to have to win that role pretty much solely,

605
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: honestly solely because of injury, but he would He's clear

606
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: in a way than number two I think in that offense,

607
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: and so that that is a positive, but his playing path,

608
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: the playing time is very limited other than just spelling

609
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: the top five running back in front of him.

610
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, I'm with you that Austin Eckler is

611
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: going to continue to be the guy, and I don't

612
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: think Spiller's going to challenge that.

613
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: But I also think Spiller is.

614
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: Probably the best guy that they put next to Austin Eckler, Like,

615
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I think I don't think it's

616
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: much of an argument to say that. I think that

617
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: Spiller could definitely be better than Joshua Kelly or like Justin

618
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: Jackson or anything like that.

619
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: And I think that he could have a role.

620
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: He's he's a very physical type guy, great between the tackles,

621
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: dangerous and sort of goal line situations, needs volumes.

622
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: So he's not like he's not perfect, but you know,

623
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: he's a fourth round type guy.

624
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: So I certainly think that he could be a little

625
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: better than his forty times suggests.

626
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: Here's here's a question for you.

627
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam, I'm looking at spow track right now, or

628
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 4: however you say this, you know, is it? How do

629
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: you say the when you say spot track, but you

630
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: say spot track?

631
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: I don't know.

632
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: Is it spo track, I don't know.

633
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: I've never There's not like a pronunciation guy on the website.

634
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 4: I wish there was. But looking at it, Eckler's contract

635
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: ends in twenty twenty three. He's your twenty eight season,

636
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: so he'll be getting a new contract heading into your

637
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: twenty nine, so he's got two more years ahead of this.

638
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: The idea of Isaiah Spiller being able to come in

639
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: and learn behind him through those two years, I don't know.

640
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: You know, I'm talking long term dynasty obviously not redraft here,

641
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: but I don't think that the Chargers with a long

642
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: term contract at a twenty nine to a twenty nine

643
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 4: year old running back, because I think, right.

644
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: He's getting like a one or two year contract at

645
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: that point, like twenty nine, you're ancient in terms of

646
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: running back.

647
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: Of running backs, which is just crazy.

648
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: So yes, as a fellow twenty nine year old, I can.

649
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: Say, oh my gosh, you're twenty nine.

650
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: Now we fall apart at twenty nine, So are you

651
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: buying or selling Spiller? It is current EDP of RB

652
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: forty seven, so that's significantly higher than a number of

653
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: these other guys.

654
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: That we spoke about.

655
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: I'd sell.

656
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't see unless I unless I

657
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: drafted Austin Eckler, and I wanted the insurance back because

658
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: he does seem like the clear number two. Like you said,

659
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm probably not gonna not draft Isaiah Spiller.

660
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: All right, My last question to you is, can you

661
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: give me your.

662
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: Top three ken Walker ahead of Bresol, which people think

663
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: is crazy.

664
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy.

665
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: And then I have Brisol, and then I have James Cook,

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Speaker 4: and then if I'm honest with you, like I'd probably

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Speaker 4: go Damian, either Damian Pierce or Tyler l Jeer. But

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Speaker 4: we didn't even talk about from the Falcons the BYU

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Speaker 4: runner who is I just look at the Falcons and

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Speaker 4: the idea that Cordeil Patterson is thirty thirty, thirty one

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Speaker 4: years old something like that, and they don't like.

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Speaker 1: Year ten breakout, didn't expect or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing, like what's the what is

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Speaker 4: what does it look like for a player when like

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Speaker 4: you've played eight years in the league and then you

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Speaker 4: have a breakout in your ninth year, and then what

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Speaker 4: does the year after that look like?

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Speaker 2: Like where do you go from there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know is your takeaway that like Arthur Smith

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Speaker 4: No, No, My takeaway is just that I don't think

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Speaker 4: that when I look at I look at Corderio Patterson,

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Speaker 4: he's not the future of that of the running back

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Speaker 4: position there. And not that I think that Tyler Algier

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Speaker 4: coming out of BYU is anything crazy, but I do

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Speaker 4: think that he is a much clearer path to touches.

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Speaker 4: And if anything happens to corderioll Patterson in that offense. Mind,

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Speaker 4: you probably not going to be a great offense with

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Speaker 4: a lot of you know, Marcus Mariot under center, and.

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Speaker 2: They still got a lot of young pieces.

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Speaker 4: But I like Tyler Algier in Dynasty from that perspect

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Speaker 4: just because of that path the playing time.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's pretty much the same.

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Speaker 3: But I could make an argument for White just because

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Speaker 3: I don't know how long letter for and it's going

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Speaker 3: to be around, so I could see that being good.

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Speaker 3: I could also see White being keyshan Von two point out.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of outcomes here, But all.

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Speaker 3: Right, that will do it for this absolute unit of

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Speaker 3: rookie running backs.

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Speaker 1: Daniel, I cannot thank you enough for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: To join us on the show today. Please let us

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Speaker 3: know where everyone can find you this offseason and beyond,

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Speaker 3: as if they don't already now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can find me at Daniel Dopp on Twitter,

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Speaker 4: on Instagram, I am at something to Break, and you

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Speaker 4: can see me on ESPN doing some stuff with like

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Speaker 4: you said earlier, the Fantasy Show with Matthew Berry. We're

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Speaker 4: planning in another episode coming out here in a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks. And then the Fantasy Focused Football Podcast with

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Speaker 4: Matthew Field.

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Speaker 2: Stafanya and Mike Clay. We have a ton of fun.

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Speaker 4: We're doing that every Monday right now until we get

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's where you can find me.

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Speaker 4: And I'm so proud of you and so stoked to

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Speaker 4: be able to do this and have you as a

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