WEBVTT - 50-50 Faith

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and I wanted to thank you for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving

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<v Speaker 2>in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy the message.

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<v Speaker 3>How many are excited about this series that we're in.

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<v Speaker 3>The series is called Maybe God. The subject is His voice,

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<v Speaker 3>his will, his ways. How do I know if this

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity comes from the Lord? And now have a scripture

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<v Speaker 3>for you today that I think will be a great

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<v Speaker 3>blessing in your life. It's in First Samuel, chapter fourteen,

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<v Speaker 3>verse number six. The Bible says Jonathan said to his

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<v Speaker 3>young armor bearer, Come, let's go over to the outpost

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<v Speaker 3>of those uncircumcised men. He's talking trash about the Philistines.

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<v Speaker 3>He calls them a derogatory name. He's talking about their uncircumcision. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>he must be fired up about something. He's a little belligerent.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting bold now again. Afford to wait around and

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<v Speaker 3>wait for something to happen from heaven when God has

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<v Speaker 3>already given him a certain power on the earth. So

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<v Speaker 3>he turns to who he has available at this point

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<v Speaker 3>and says, let's go. It's just me and you, but

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<v Speaker 3>touch somebody, say let's go now. I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>be a favor if you're the only one on your

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<v Speaker 3>row who praises God today during this sermon, I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to go and look at somebody next to you

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<v Speaker 3>and say, well, you go with me. Amen, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go over to the outpost of those uncircumcised men.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps the Lord will act in our behalf.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing can hinder the Lord from saving, whether by many

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<v Speaker 3>or by few. In this third installment of Maybe God,

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<v Speaker 3>my subject and my lesson today is called fifty fifty faith.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to teach you on this principle that has

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<v Speaker 3>been so useful in my life as a leader, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's useful for me as a husband, as a dad,

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<v Speaker 3>and just as a man.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty fifty faith.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe this principle is going to set you free

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<v Speaker 3>in some of the areas where indecision has imprisoned you

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<v Speaker 3>and you've been waiting around, and God is going to

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<v Speaker 3>show you something today by the power and virtue of

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<v Speaker 3>His word and spirit, that only He could show you

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<v Speaker 3>about fifty fifty faith, praise the Lord. I celebrated my

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<v Speaker 3>thirty ninth birthday this week. Appreciate your pity. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that last one with the three in front of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm owning it. I am so owning turning forty. I

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<v Speaker 3>am so owning these little gray whiskers that are popping up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not dying them or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell them to get a close up on

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<v Speaker 3>these gray these great things on the camera. Just zoom

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<v Speaker 3>right into the greyest pat you can find in this beard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what my kids say about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>when they tell me that my jokes are cringy and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. One of my kids told me that

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<v Speaker 3>the other day, and I just asked him a question back.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, your jokes are so cringey. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>asked him a question. I said, how many people show

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<v Speaker 3>up to hear you speak? Since I'm so cringey conversational

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<v Speaker 3>parenting approach, you might want to try it sometime. But

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things I think keeps happening to me

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<v Speaker 3>and is really happening to me at this stage of

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<v Speaker 3>my ministry in life, because I have been doing this

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<v Speaker 3>as a pastor over thirteen years. Is that I feel

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<v Speaker 3>so good saying that it felt cool. I've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>this over thirteen years. That's a long time to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been less certain and I've never been more confident,

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<v Speaker 3>all at the same time, all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Strange thing, how when you give up your need for

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<v Speaker 3>certainty you can gain a true confidence that is independent

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<v Speaker 3>of circumstance. Can I preach to somebody today right here

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<v Speaker 3>in this back left section of Valentine? The passage that

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<v Speaker 3>I read to you is one of my favorites. If

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<v Speaker 3>they were giving out an Academy Award for best Old

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<v Speaker 3>Testament Narrative Scripture, I would want to nominate Jonathan is

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<v Speaker 3>best supporting Actor because he's not as famous as David,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's a pretty good example for me and has

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<v Speaker 3>helped me a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>This passage has helped me a lot through the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Every couple of years I preach it, and when I

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<v Speaker 3>circle back to it, I see a different dimension of faith.

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<v Speaker 3>I see a different dimension of the kind of confidence

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<v Speaker 3>that we can have in Christ and in his promises.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also see all of the uncertainty and self

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<v Speaker 3>doubt that it also entails, and that my faith is

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<v Speaker 3>not a formula, and it can never be. The more

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<v Speaker 3>I try to make it into a formula, the less

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<v Speaker 3>valuable it becomes to me. When life challenges all of

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<v Speaker 3>my presuppositions, and all of my ideas about what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of ways God wants to work collapse under the weight

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<v Speaker 3>of real life, under the weight of real bills, under

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<v Speaker 3>the weight of real medical reports. And I need the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of faith that is not dependent on my presuppositions.

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<v Speaker 3>I need the kind of faith that can deal with

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<v Speaker 3>some ambiguity. I need a faith, like Richard Rohre says,

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<v Speaker 3>that can be patient with mystery. I need a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of faith that is not dependent on my plans to prevail.

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<v Speaker 3>I need the kind of faith that can stand up

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<v Speaker 3>against the worst thing that happens. I need the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of faith that can shine when God goes dark, when

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, when I can't say it, when I

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<v Speaker 3>can't see it, when I don't feel like I can

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<v Speaker 3>make it. I need a faith that can withstand these seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Now around the verse that I read you is a

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<v Speaker 3>little episode, and if you've been tracking with the series,

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<v Speaker 3>I've used a few different old Testament passages from Judges

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<v Speaker 3>and Samuel to try to give us some sort of arc,

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<v Speaker 3>or to give us give us some kind of context

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<v Speaker 3>for the way that transition creates opportunity for us to

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<v Speaker 3>trust God. In this particular transition a negative one for

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<v Speaker 3>the nation of Israel. King Saul has really lost his

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<v Speaker 3>way and he's abdicated his leadership because of this. The

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<v Speaker 3>Philistines who would torment the Israelites all the way until

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<v Speaker 3>the rule of David, remember Sampson began to deliver them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's last week. And you need to go on and

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<v Speaker 1>watch that message about.

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<v Speaker 3>The parentheses and the pivot and how there's a purpose

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<v Speaker 3>even if I have to leave it blank right now,

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<v Speaker 3>God is going to do something in this empty space

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<v Speaker 3>in these parentheses, And I'm gonna put the parentheses there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna let God fill them because He's too

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<v Speaker 3>wise to make a mistake in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that message is online.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on YouTube and Facebook and elevation app and MySpace,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they still had my Space, we will put

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<v Speaker 3>it up there. Roku all of it. When when I

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<v Speaker 3>was preaching that it talked about the beginning of deliverance.

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<v Speaker 3>Are partial deliverance, and the beginning of deliverance happened through

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<v Speaker 3>the judges. But now Saul the King was unable to

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<v Speaker 3>commit himself fully to the ways and the will of

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord, rather than to engage in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>the living God, he has begun to manipulate. When he

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<v Speaker 3>begins to manipulate and treat God as some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>mechanism to get what he wants when he wants it,

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<v Speaker 3>he loses that unique ability that we have to hear

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<v Speaker 3>the voice of God. When you lose the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>hear the voice of God, you waste energy, you waste resources,

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<v Speaker 3>you waste worry on situations that God didn't even want

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<v Speaker 3>you to give your attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I need to hear his voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Saul, having lost that ability, is now surrounded by his enemies,

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<v Speaker 3>so much so that his people that he was responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for leading are hiding in rocks, in caves, in thickets.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to put the word thickets in there,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't get to use it on an everyday basis.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're all hiding in places.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we find ourselves talked away in mindsets, in patterns,

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<v Speaker 3>in isolation, away from people, away from life, away from joy,

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<v Speaker 3>away from risk, away from opportunity. And this was the

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<v Speaker 3>situation in Fir Samuel fourteen. Pick up verse twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>from thirteen. Now a detachment of Philistines had gone out

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<v Speaker 3>to the pass at nick Mash. It's always helpful to

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<v Speaker 3>point out that the enemy always attacks you at the passages.

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<v Speaker 3>He always attacks you at the places of transition, from

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<v Speaker 3>what you knew to what you don't know, from where

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<v Speaker 3>you were to where you're going. And so when he

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<v Speaker 3>can set up an ambush at the passage, he can

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<v Speaker 3>keep you from moving forward in those transitional pivotal moments

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<v Speaker 3>of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one day somebody shout.

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<v Speaker 3>One day, one day, Jonathan, son of Saul said to

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<v Speaker 3>his young armor bearer, come, let's go over to the

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<v Speaker 3>Philistine outpost on the other side. But he did not

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<v Speaker 3>his father. Be very careful who you talk to about

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<v Speaker 3>what God is doing inside of you. Be very careful

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<v Speaker 3>who you communicate with about the impressions that God is

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<v Speaker 3>stirring inside of you. If you talk to the wrong

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<v Speaker 3>people about the right idea, your idea will die before

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<v Speaker 3>it has the opportunity to conceive and give birth to

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<v Speaker 3>what God is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>In your life? How many know I'm right about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Saul was staying on the outskirts of Gibea under a

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<v Speaker 3>pomegranate tree, and migrant with him were about six hundred men,

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<v Speaker 3>among whom was a Hijah who was wearing an ephod.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a son of Ichabod. He was a son

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<v Speaker 3>of Ichabod's brother, rather Ahita, son of Phineas, the son

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<v Speaker 3>of Eli, the lord's priest in Shiloh. No one was

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<v Speaker 3>aware that Jonathan had left. On each side that Jonathan

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<v Speaker 3>intended to cross to Rea, which the Philistine outpost was

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<v Speaker 3>a cliff, one was called Bozez, and the other Sinnat.

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<v Speaker 3>Bozez means slippery, Sinnam means thorny. Nobody told me it

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<v Speaker 3>would be easy. God didn't promise me that his will

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<v Speaker 3>would be convenient. Quit thinking that proof positive that you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the will of God is that it feels good

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<v Speaker 3>to you. Quit thinking that proof positive that you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the will of God is that everybody understands it. Quit

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that proof positive that you're in the will of

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<v Speaker 3>God is that it just falls into place. No, he

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<v Speaker 3>had to go through a thorny place, a slippery place,

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<v Speaker 3>an uncomfortable place, an uncertain place. And just because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in an uncertain place doesn't mean I don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>certain purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna need somebody to shout on that right.

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<v Speaker 3>There, right there, right there, touch somebody, say I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>his will. And one of the proofs that you're in

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<v Speaker 3>his will is that you are experiencing warfare. It could

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<v Speaker 3>be in terms of an internal resistance that you feel,

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<v Speaker 3>or even if some are going crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>In your life. And on each side was a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>On each side was a challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>One Cliff stood to the north toward Mickmash, the other

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<v Speaker 3>to the south toward Giba.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jonathan said to his young.

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<v Speaker 3>Armor bearer, come let's go over to the outpost of

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<v Speaker 3>those uncircumcised men.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps the Lord will act in our behalf.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing can hinder the Lord from saving, whether by many

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<v Speaker 3>or by few. God, I love your word. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take a moment and just talk to him about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for putting that one little word in your word.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the one where he said nothing can hinder the Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>not the one where he said, come let's go over,

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<v Speaker 3>But that one little word where he said, perhaps because

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<v Speaker 3>that word gives me hope. It gives me hope for

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<v Speaker 3>my insecurity. It gives me hope for my impossibilities and

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<v Speaker 3>my uncertainty. It gives me hope to know that sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>even in the midst of making progress in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>even in the midst of obeying the revealed will of God,

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<v Speaker 3>there are going to be moments where one minute I

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<v Speaker 3>have great faith and the next moment I'm overcome by

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<v Speaker 3>great fear. But watch the armor bearer, he says back

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<v Speaker 3>to Jonathan, who had a crazy idea, do all that

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<v Speaker 3>you have in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead. I am with you, heart and soul.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jonathan said, come on then, since you're talking like that,

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<v Speaker 3>come on then, since you want to do it too,

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<v Speaker 3>come on then, since you don't think I'm crazy for

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<v Speaker 3>want to move toward the enemy even though we're outnumbered,

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<v Speaker 3>come on then, since you don't have any more brain

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<v Speaker 3>cells or common sense than I do, come on, then,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you need somebody who will help you, even though

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<v Speaker 3>your plan sounds like a bad plan, to try to

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<v Speaker 3>find God in it, just so you don't stay stuck

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<v Speaker 3>in standing still. Come on then, I like how he

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<v Speaker 3>talked to him. He's like, come on then, And then

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<v Speaker 3>the army bears like, go ahead then, and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>come on then, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pumping each other up.

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<v Speaker 3>They're chest pumping each other, you know, and they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have anybody else because watch this. The people who should

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<v Speaker 3>have had faith have been overtaken by fear. Now, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the part of the passage that's going to give

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<v Speaker 3>me the contrast as we look at together two different

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<v Speaker 3>ways that we try to figure out God's will, and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone has a way that you try to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what the will of God is, even if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>call it trying to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out what the will of God is.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a way that you make decisions that you

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<v Speaker 3>hope will be most advantageous. You have a way that

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<v Speaker 3>you try to discern wisdom, and you can't always get

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<v Speaker 3>it from a book, and you can't always get it

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<v Speaker 3>from a class, and you can't always get it. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>what I figured out. We're all making it up as

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<v Speaker 3>we go. This part of my sermon is meant to

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<v Speaker 3>encourage you. All the people that are writing parenting books

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<v Speaker 3>about fifteen steps.

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<v Speaker 1>To raise a perfect kid, they left.

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<v Speaker 3>Out some footnotes and the bottom line is they just

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<v Speaker 3>had good luck in the gene pool because God can

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<v Speaker 3>give you a kid that can make you.

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<v Speaker 1>Question all of your theories. I love my children.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, all of us as parents are making

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<v Speaker 3>it up as we go, all of us, all of

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<v Speaker 3>us are trying to figure out with each child, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're all different. I know Hollywood's faithful to me, but

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I'm like, how could they all be so different

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<v Speaker 3>if it was just a common factor of me and you?

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<v Speaker 3>But I trust her, But sometimes they're so different, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, you respond like this, and you respond

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<v Speaker 3>like that, and watch John Nathan's plan. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>dumbest idea that you can find in the Bible. The

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<v Speaker 3>only one I can think of is dumber. Is Moses

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<v Speaker 3>stretching out his stick over the Red Sea. That's pretty dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe David throwing a rock at a giant who

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<v Speaker 3>has a sword.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe Jesus commanding the lunch from a little boy

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<v Speaker 3>in the crowd and trying to feed fifteen thousand people

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<v Speaker 3>with it. That's pretty dumb. Or maybe Mary going to

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph and saying I'm pregnant. But it wasn't another man,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe it was a widow going around borrowing jars

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<v Speaker 3>from her neighbors when she didn't have any oil and

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<v Speaker 3>thinking something. That's pretty now that I come to think

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<v Speaker 3>of it. A lot of the stuff that God did

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<v Speaker 3>in his word looked like a dumb decision to the

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<v Speaker 3>people while they were doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, how dumb this is. Listen, listen, how stupid this

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<v Speaker 1>strategy is. Somebody say, bad idea?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, come on, then we will cross over toward

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<v Speaker 3>them and let them see us.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Sneak up on somebody if you wanted to kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever, if they say to us, and I'll watch us.

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<v Speaker 3>He's making this up because I want you to know

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<v Speaker 3>this one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>About this passage.

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<v Speaker 3>God gives Jonathan the victory. But God doesn't say a

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<v Speaker 3>single word. The only people who speak in this passage

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<v Speaker 3>are Jonathan, his assistant, and his enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>God doesn't say a word.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jonathan he makes up this this strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an innovator.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, all right, my dad's under the tree by

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<v Speaker 3>the threshing floor, and the priest isn't doing anything, and

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<v Speaker 3>so let's go over and show ourselves and expose ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>to our enemies. And if they say, wait there until

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<v Speaker 3>we come up to you, we will stay we are

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<v Speaker 3>and not go up to them. But if they say

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<v Speaker 3>come up to us, we will climb up, because that

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<v Speaker 3>will be our sign that the Lord has given them

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<v Speaker 3>into our hands. And just when it can't get any

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<v Speaker 3>dumber Verse eleven, both of them showed themselves to the

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<v Speaker 3>Philistine outpost. Look, sat the Philistines. There's two of them

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<v Speaker 3>and dozens of us. The Hebrews are crawling out of

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<v Speaker 3>the holes they were hiding in. The men of the

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<v Speaker 3>outposts shouted to Jonathan and his armor bearer, come up

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<v Speaker 3>to us, and we'll teach you a lesson. So Jonathan

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<v Speaker 3>said to his armor bearer, climb up after me. The

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<v Speaker 3>Lord has given them into the hand of Israel. How

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<v Speaker 3>are you gonna speak in past tense about a battle

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<v Speaker 3>you hadn't even fought yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know something that is greater than what I

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<v Speaker 1>know with my mind. I know with my faith.

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<v Speaker 3>Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the

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<v Speaker 3>evidence of things seem so way it gets dumber. Jonathan

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<v Speaker 3>climbed up, using his hands and feet. You know how

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable you are climbing up something dorny or slippery, using

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<v Speaker 3>your hands and feet. Quick thing just for you. I

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<v Speaker 3>love y'all. Victory requires vulnerability. Victory requires vulnerability in anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to make yourself vulnerable to experience a great relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to make yourself vulnerable to step into a

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<v Speaker 3>new dimension in your business. You have to make yourself

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable to connect on any meaningful level with the life

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<v Speaker 3>that God has given you. And so in this position

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<v Speaker 3>of vulnerability, Jonathan prophesies a great victory.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>And it says that his armor bearer was right behind him,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Philistines fell before Jonathan, and his armor bearer

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<v Speaker 3>followed and killed behind him. In that first attack, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 3>and his armor bearer killed some twenty men in an

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<v Speaker 3>area of about half an acre, all because Jonathan turned

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<v Speaker 3>to his armor bearer and said, I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got an idea. You know, he said like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm at the place now where I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>think that the value is in the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The value is in the courage to act on the impulse.

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<v Speaker 3>When I put it like that, you got to realize

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<v Speaker 3>how many people say things like this every day, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember talking to somebody about Uber, and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I could have thought of that. You know, really, you

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<v Speaker 3>think thinking of something is the key to succeed. It's

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<v Speaker 3>something anybody can think of something. I mean today I

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<v Speaker 3>was walking out the door and Abby turned me into

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<v Speaker 3>a dog because of my fuzzy sweater and she said,

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<v Speaker 3>you want your belly, rob?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want your belly?

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<v Speaker 2>Rob?

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<v Speaker 3>I licked her face and I left and came to

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<v Speaker 3>church to preach. That's what dogs do. But she can

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<v Speaker 3>think of stuff, I mean, thinking of it. Hollyod Wass

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<v Speaker 3>telling me now they got like uber for photography. I

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<v Speaker 3>really should find out the name of this and see

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<v Speaker 3>if I could get a sponsorship.

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<v Speaker 1>This message goes to a lot of people. But they

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<v Speaker 1>said that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go on and get a photographer anywhere in

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<v Speaker 3>the world that you are, just like you can get

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<v Speaker 3>a car from Uber, and you can get a photographer.

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<v Speaker 1>Anywhere you are.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're off with your family and you want to

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<v Speaker 3>get a family picture like that so that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to ask some random stranger who apparently has never

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<v Speaker 3>used a smartphone in their life and doesn't know the

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<v Speaker 3>tap the.

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<v Speaker 1>Screen to make it lighter.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get a professional to come out and capture

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<v Speaker 3>the memory, you know. And when she said, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>why didn't I think of that? Well, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more to it than thinking of it. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>People call me all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time and they'd be like, I heard this thing, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a sermon in that somewhere, and so to that, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>where like just because they could think of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I read this headline you should preach about that, you

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<v Speaker 3>should write a song about that, and I'm like, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up until you can write one of your own.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you mean, well, but the hard part isn't

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<v Speaker 3>thinking of it. The hard part isn't thinking of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why when they give you advice sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>in marriage, like be.

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<v Speaker 1>The first to say you're sorry. It's not the thought

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<v Speaker 1>that counts.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I upset conventional wisdom for a moment? One thing

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<v Speaker 3>that was really really striking to me in the text

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<v Speaker 3>was not what Jonathan did, but what the people who

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<v Speaker 3>should have been leading were doing at the time when

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan had to act on something that was partial and imperfect.

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<v Speaker 3>When the Bible says that Saul was staying on the

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<v Speaker 3>outskirts of Gibea under a pomegranate tree with six hundred men.

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<v Speaker 3>I always skipped this verse because.

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<v Speaker 1>The names were hard to pronounce.

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<v Speaker 3>I was preaching this passage when I was seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know how to pronounce these names.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I figured out, you don't know how to pronounce

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<v Speaker 3>them either, So if I just say it with enough confidence,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll move on. But in skipping it, I missed something

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<v Speaker 3>that became very important to me About the ephod. It

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<v Speaker 3>says that the Lord's priest was wearing the epod under

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<v Speaker 3>the pomegranate tree. Now, the epod was more than just

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<v Speaker 3>an article of clothing. It was an instrument for seeking

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<v Speaker 3>the will of God. On the ephod, the high priest

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<v Speaker 3>would wear a breastplate. On the breastplate would be twelve

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<v Speaker 3>stones with the names of the tribes of Israel, representing

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<v Speaker 3>their special presence in the presence of God. When he

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<v Speaker 3>would wear the breastplate into the most holy place to

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<v Speaker 3>make atonement for the sins of the people so that

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<v Speaker 3>they could be forgiven. Once a year, the instruction was

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<v Speaker 3>given to the priest about what to make sure he

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<v Speaker 3>kept close to his heart. It started with Erin in Exodus,

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<v Speaker 3>chapter twenty eight, if you could give.

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<v Speaker 1>Me this text.

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<v Speaker 3>That he will bear the names of the sons of

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<v Speaker 3>Israel over his heart on the breastplate of decision. In

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<v Speaker 3>the literal translation, it's the breastplate of judgment. It was

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<v Speaker 3>what he wore when the judgment of God was conferred

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<v Speaker 3>on the sacrificial animal that took the sins of the

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<v Speaker 3>people away from the camp. It was the breastplate of judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>But here it has translated the breastplate of decision as

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<v Speaker 3>a continual memorial for the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's why.

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<v Speaker 3>Next verse, please also put Urrem and Themim, which are

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<v Speaker 3>two special stones that would go not on the breastplate,

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<v Speaker 3>but behind the breastplate.

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<v Speaker 1>When the priest wore the ephant, which was like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Kitchen apron where he would keep the vestments that were

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate for his duty. And on that ephant was the breastplate,

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<v Speaker 3>and behind the breastplate was Eurrem and Themim.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether these were.

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<v Speaker 3>Stones or some other sort of special object, we are

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<v Speaker 3>dependent on the incomplete records of archaeologists to make known

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<v Speaker 3>to us. But one thing we know. It was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the ways that God spoke about his will to

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<v Speaker 3>his people. He spoke through the prophets, he spoke through dreams,

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<v Speaker 3>and he spoke through these stones. I'm gonna call them

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<v Speaker 3>stones because that's the closest thing we can know to

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<v Speaker 3>what they were. One represented yes and one represented no.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the meme. Eurreme was a little different. It

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<v Speaker 3>was said to be a stone that would light up.

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<v Speaker 1>And watch this.

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<v Speaker 3>You are to put it behind the breast peace or

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<v Speaker 3>in the breast piece, so that they may be over

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron's heart whenever he enters the presence of the Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>Thus Erin will always bear the means of making decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that little phrase, the means of making decisions

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<v Speaker 3>in the presence of the Lord. Everybody has a means

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<v Speaker 3>of making decisions. Everyone has a way that they try

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out, where is this going?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I trust this person?

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<v Speaker 3>And I like this method a lot because all the

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<v Speaker 3>priests had to do was take out the stones the

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<v Speaker 3>meme it stands for perfection or decision, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>would take urreem, which represents light, which always represents revelation,

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<v Speaker 3>which always represents knowledge. And when God would speak through

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<v Speaker 3>these stones, you would inquire of him, and if the

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<v Speaker 3>answer was affirmative, Urrem would light up, and you would

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<v Speaker 3>know God wants us to do it. Like when David

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<v Speaker 3>was facing a battle at zick Lag and he had

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<v Speaker 3>to go back and recover his family and the families

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<v Speaker 3>of his men, and he asked the priest bring me

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<v Speaker 3>an ephod, because I need to seek the Lord, because

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<v Speaker 3>if I go into this battle and God doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>me to go in this battle, if I do this venture,

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<v Speaker 3>if I go after this thing and God doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>me to do this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be defeated.

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<v Speaker 3>But if he says yes, no power in Hell can

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<v Speaker 3>stand against me. Nothing can hinder the Lord from saving,

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<v Speaker 3>whether by many or by few. So David said, bring

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<v Speaker 3>me the ephod, because if God gives me light on

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<v Speaker 3>this situation, I can fight this battle. If God gives

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<v Speaker 3>me light on this situation, I can stand the trial.

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I can stand the test, I can pass it. I

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<v Speaker 3>can do it if God says yes. But sometimes God

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<v Speaker 3>would say no, and then sometimes the stone would do nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And what that meant was God doesn't want to answer

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<v Speaker 3>this right now. In other words, if I can take

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<v Speaker 3>you back to middle school, I love you, Do you

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<v Speaker 3>love me? Check yes or no? And sometimes I would

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<v Speaker 3>put a third box called maybe and sometimes they would

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<v Speaker 3>ask God, you know, should we go, should we stay?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we do it? Should we not? And the son

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<v Speaker 1>would do nothing? What do you do with them?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe because a lot of times in our life, don't

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<v Speaker 3>you wish you had a urim and at the meme

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<v Speaker 3>in your closet? Come on right next to your belts.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather have a urim and at the meme than

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<v Speaker 3>a Rolex. I mean I'd rather have I would. I

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<v Speaker 3>would love if I could. What a what a what

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<v Speaker 3>a blessing it would be? You know how many you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how many staff members I never would have hired to

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<v Speaker 3>begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, this is a big church. Can I be

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<v Speaker 1>real with you? Do you know how many staff members i'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Just be if I could have just had that special

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<v Speaker 3>stone pull it out?

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that be cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine how many how many things would you

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<v Speaker 3>have done differently?

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<v Speaker 1>And how helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>Would it be when you're making decisions if you could

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<v Speaker 3>just have a stone just to light up and tell you, yes,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 3>this is God. You know how your kids start hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out with friends and you're wondering, like, I don't know

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>about these parents. They seem kind of like I don't

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 3>know I smelled something on their clothes, smell like it

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 3>might have been weed, or maybe it was something else,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord, should I let my kids hang out with these kids?

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<v Speaker 3>And God says yes, and you could get some sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know, God, should I take this job? It's

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<v Speaker 3>got more pay, but it's gonna mean more hours. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think it would be so cool if it would.

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<v Speaker 1>Light up and tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet God, God, God knows something about me that

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about me. Is that even if He

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<v Speaker 3>gave me the light to know what to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, a lot of times I wouldn't have the faith

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna make me preach by myself and sit there

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<v Speaker 3>looking at me like I'm an entertainer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that even sometimes when you know what to do,

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<v Speaker 3>even sometimes when you know this as God. And they

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 3>had these stones, They had these stones. It was behind

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<v Speaker 3>the breastplate, and the breastplate was under the pomegranate tree,

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 3>and the priest was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing with it.

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<v Speaker 3>They had the means of making decisions to know the

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<v Speaker 3>will of God, but their fear had put them in

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<v Speaker 3>a place, and their complacency had put them in a

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<v Speaker 3>place because when you have the instruments but you don't

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 3>use them. How can God speak to you when you

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<v Speaker 3>can't find this between sundays? How can God give you

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<v Speaker 3>his wisdom? And the important thing about it was Jonathan said,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have the ephod Ahijah has the ephoon.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a complete clarity on this situation.

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<v Speaker 3>But what he had that was so important he had

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<v Speaker 3>the right person to turn to and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to understand the value not only of

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>what God says to you in your life, but about

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<v Speaker 3>who you say it to.

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<v Speaker 1>After God says it to.

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<v Speaker 3>You, the right people will give you the go ahead.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 3>The right people will say, you know what, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>help you as you do this. I know the addiction

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<v Speaker 3>has got you about three different cycles now and it

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 3>looks like this one won't be any different. But whether

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 3>or not you make it, I'm gonna be here with

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 3>you on it. So let's go ahead and do this

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 3>dumb thing, this impossible thing, this crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes they got to turn and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't got at all. But it's who you say

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<v Speaker 1>it to. It's who you say it. It's a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing, it's not just my relationship with God, it's my

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with others. And a lot of us are suffering,

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 3>and so is in our relationship with God. Because we're

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>living in bitterness with our relationship with others.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hear God just like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I guarantee you if Jonathan would have had an armor

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<v Speaker 3>bearer who told him, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, let me know how that turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm praying for you signed the cross. I guarantee you

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the battle wouldn't have moved on beyond Beth even that

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<v Speaker 3>day like it did, and even for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can say this when people say, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>know God wanted you to start a church?

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<v Speaker 4>I read a book. I felt inspired. I got up

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 4>and preached. It seemed to help people read a book.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I got a wife. We were doing our thing. One

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 4>day she looked at me. In the mountains of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 4>We're at some youth camp. Carl Cart was leading worship.

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<v Speaker 4>We came back to the room. People say, when, how

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 4>did you know? How did God speak to you it

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 4>was time for you to start the church. Because I

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 4>wanted to start it when I was forty. The church

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't even be here right now. If Holly didn't turn

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 4>to me, not God. She was my yorem. God used

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<v Speaker 4>her like that. She said, it's time for you go

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 4>start this church. I said, when I'm forty. She said, no. Now, look, JJ, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear me saying on this message, you know God's

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>calling you to go. You know how many people I've

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 3>seen go start coffee shops because they like coffee and

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>they hear a message like this and abuse it and

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>they think that the whole point of the message is

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<v Speaker 3>just go do the dumbest thing you can think of

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 3>that you have a halfway interest in, and then blame

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 3>the devil when it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Work out because it was spiritual warfare.

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<v Speaker 3>And attack and nobody believed in my dream and I'm

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 3>nothing but Jesus on the cross and guard. And I

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>guess so many squeeze the olives and the oils coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that is dumb because I'm not even talking

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 3>about that. I'm talking about who you talk to, about

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>what God is saying to you. And now now I

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 3>get to return the favor. I mean the other day

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>she she turned to me and was like, Hey, I'm

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 3>about to tell you something that I think God is

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 3>speaking to me because it's always a fifty to fifty thing, always,

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>always so. So I'm confident, but I'm not certain, you know.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 3>And she was like, don't laugh at me. I'm like,

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 3>why would I laugh at you?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me?

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<v Speaker 3>And what she told me, I said, not only have

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<v Speaker 3>you got to do that, but you got to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>this and this and this and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's awesome.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Then I think she was sorry that she told me

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>because she didn't want to do this, this, this, and

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 3>this and this.

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>She just wanted to do that. But we started.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking, and you see how important it is not only

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 3>what God says to you. It's not only this being

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 3>of the cross, what is this one too? So I

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 3>don't have Uremn the meme. But I got Eugene.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I needed a rhyme.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was a stretch at best, and Irene

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>and I got people.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Now this is so, this is so key. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty faith. It's a fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>That means it is a divine partnership where Jonathan says,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there is something that God can do, and

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>then there is something that God will not do that

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<v Speaker 3>only we can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Faith is fifty to fifty. James proves it clearly.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only does Jonathan exemplify it, James explains it when

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 3>he says, faith without works is it takes two? This

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 3>is a fifty to fifty proposition. Why would God do

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 3>for you what he gave you the strength to do

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 3>for you?

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>It is a fifty fifty faith.

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 3>It is not my faith that saves me, and I'm

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 3>grateful for that. How many are grateful that your faith

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 3>in Christ for salvation is.

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Not fifty to fifty. Come on, because if it.

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Was, I would be in hell before Monday at three

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>pm Eastern Standard time. But because he is my great

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 3>High Priest, y'all, I'm about to get happy on this sermon.

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 3>And because he took the breastplate.

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<v Speaker 5>Of his own righteousness into the most holy place and

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 5>shet his blood on the mercy seat, I don't ever

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 5>have to doubt if he wants to see me, or

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 5>hear me, or love me, or throw his arms around me.

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 5>He is my righteousness and I am his child, and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is my great high Priest.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, shout about it like you got the good

0:35:51.480 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 3>sense to know this thing doesn't depend on me. Foundational

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 3>faith even that faith is the gift of God.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>So that no one can boast.

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 3>But watch this, Jonathan say, perhaps perhaps the Lord will

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>it is.

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Fifty to fifty. I know he can. I think he will.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Fifty to fifty. I know God is with me, and

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I think this is where he's leading me. It's fifty

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to fifty. I'm a fifty to fifty leader.

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 3>I pull seventy staff into this Monday and said, this

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 3>is what I think God's doing.

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>And I can't put a bow on it. But we're

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna find.

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Out together why Because God won't reveal truth if I.

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't move toward it ever.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 3>And the issue is this experience is the friend of wisdom,

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>but it can be the enemy of faith.

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>You need me to run that back.

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Experience is the friend of wisdom, but if you get

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 3>like Saul in a Hydi and keep the e foight

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 3>under the pomegranate tree, Jonathan said, we're going to have

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>to be our own ethought. We're have to put ourselves

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>out there and see if God will. And when Eugene Peterson,

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.959
<v Speaker 3>he had this idea, right, he was trying to preach

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the Bible. He's in heaven now, but he was trying

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 3>to preach the Bible to his church He realized that

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 3>they weren't really getting it, so he sat down to

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 3>write a translation of the Bible in a way.

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>They could understand.

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>You know that little version on your Bible on your phone.

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 3>I hope you got the Bible on your phone. I

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 3>hope you got the Bible up above Facebook on your phone,

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<v Speaker 3>because you need that one to start your day.

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<v Speaker 1>You really do, you really do.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll need to know what's going on in Russia every second,

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 3>but you need to know what's happening, what God intends

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 3>for your life. And if you click on it, there

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 3>will be one version that says MSG and it has

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with the Chinese restaurant. The message translation,

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 3>and it was written by a man.

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Who was just seeing.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>He had an idea, what if I write the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>in the language that's common to the people, And he

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 3>ended up translating the whole Bible that way.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>The message translation.

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<v Speaker 3>All because maybe God will use this. You know, if

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 3>you act on it. If you act, it's fifty to fifty.

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>It's fifty to fifty. I'm not sure.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 3>Look what he said when he translated for Samuel fourteen six,

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite verse about faith in the Old Testament. Look

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 3>what he said that Jonathan said to his armor bearer,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, now, come on, now, let's do it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Not when the priest gets his act together, not when

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 3>the government gets his act together, not when, but now,

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 3>we got to do this now.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, now, let's.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 3>Go across to these uncircumcised pagans. And then he said

0:38:54.880 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 3>the title of my series, maybe God will work for us.

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe faith is being able to move on a maybe.

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>And you know what that means is fifty to fifty.

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 3>It might not work, but God is always working. I'm

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 3>confident in the second, even when I'm not certain in

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the first. And it takes the kind of faith church

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 3>to say maybe maybe if I do this, maybe and

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 3>maybe it won't and maybe God will use this thing

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 3>that I think I'm supposed to do to lead to

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 3>something that I was really supposed to do, so that

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<v Speaker 3>even if the first thing fails, at least I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sitting still in fear.

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But it takes faith to move on a maybe.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 3>When Yurim has gone dark and Saul is under a

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 3>tree and you don't know what to do but to

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 3>move toward it. God says, move toward it. It may work,

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 3>and even if it doesn't, I will It is the

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>power to move on a maybe, to know that God

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:28.760
<v Speaker 3>is mystery, but he is revealed, his character is trustworthy.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I can move on a maybe. Father.

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do this, but nevertheless, not my will,

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>but yours be done. So I'm gonna go see about

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>this and maybe somebody shout. Maybe maybe I've got a

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 3>maybe faith enough faith to do it and not know

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 3>the conclusion, but trust God in the process.

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a maybe faith. I'm confident.

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not certain, but I'm confident. And you will find

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 3>yourself many times in your life in a maybe moment.

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Some of you are there right now. It's a maybe

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 3>moment for you. Maybe you are giving yourself to a

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 3>marriage that you don't know if it can live. Like

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Ezekiel in the Valley of Bones, you don't even know

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>if anything's going to happen, but you're prophesying and speaking

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>forth and believing God to send the winds, and you're living.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>In the maybe moment.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Maybe if we start a church, maybe maybe I know

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 3>who God is and I know nothing can stop him.

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's fifty to fifty. Man, you want to do

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>it anyway? Maybe The miracle is in the maybe.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I wish I could preach this to every discouraged heart today.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>God lives in a place called maybe.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Faith lives in a place called maybe.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>So if you are in a maybe moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, that's where God lives.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Stand up when you're in that maybe moment, and if

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you are, you know it.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 3>And if you're not, you will need this message within

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 3>the next six weeks because life is full of maybe moments.

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 3>You will feel in that moment the coexistence of uncertainty

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 3>and confidence, and you'll feel like.

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You're making it up as you go.

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I like that image because Jonathan said, climb up after me,

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 3>climb up after me. I was thinking about how they

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 3>made it up as they win. But I had to go.

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I had to do it.

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I had to I had to trust God in a

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in a maybe moment.

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe moments are like the moment where you could look stupid.

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Maybe moments are the moments where you could be rejected.

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Most of us aren't facing philistines and thorny, slippery cliffs

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and geographical obstacles. Most of us are facing things that

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 3>are on the inside of us that seem insurmountable. And

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 3>God is in the maybe moment of your life when

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 3>you move forward. Anyway, when I stopped by my dad's

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 3>house and gave him the letter on Father's Day after

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 3>we had not spoken in months because I moved him

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.959
<v Speaker 3>to Charlotte when his health got bad with my mom,

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 3>because he asked me to, and I told him, I said, Dad,

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>I want to do this for you.

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You're my dad. I want to take care of you.

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>And we didn't know that he had als yet.

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 3>We just knew that he was very sick, and because

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 3>he was a self employed barber, I didn't know, you know,

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 3>if he was just honestly, my dad at that point

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 3>in his life was so illogical and irrational.

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if it was a good idea or not.

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 3>But I knew my dad was asking me for help,

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 3>and I knew that something was wrong, and when he

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 3>asked me to do it, I knew something inside of

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 3>me knew like this could turn out really bad, you know.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Like I told my dad, I said, you live three

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 3>and a half hours away from me right now, and

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 3>that works pretty good for us. If you come up

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 3>and we're all up in each other's face, you know,

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 3>it might not be good. And he said, I need

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 3>you to do this for me, and I said, I'll

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 3>never forget telling him. You know, I don't even think

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 3>this is a good idea, but I'm gonna do it.

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 3>You asked me to, and I love you. But please,

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 3>when you come up here, please, when you come live

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 3>in Charlotte. I knew my mom would be fine, she's great,

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 3>but I was like, you, please, don't do any of

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 3>this crazy stuff. And honest to God, no, sooner than

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I sent the moving company to give him an estimate,

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 3>he chased the moving company out of the yard with

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 3>his walking cane. I mean, this guy, he was a

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 3>good dad for a lot of my life, but by

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 3>this point his medications as well as his physical condition,

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 3>he was starting to really lose his mind. But I

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 3>knew I needed to move him anyway, and it didn't

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 3>make sense at that point. In fact, when he got here,

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 3>when he finally moved after running off the moving company,

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 3>after he finally found a moving company that was fit

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 3>to move him, and I went to go see him

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 3>and check on him in the house that we had

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>found for them. First thing he did when I walked

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.240
<v Speaker 3>in the door was complain about the house.

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 1>When I tell you that, I said.

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Some Hebrew words and some Greek words, some monks corner words,

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 3>some compound cuss words. And it was like, over the

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 3>next few months, every bad thing that I thought was

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 3>going to happen, if I tried to do the right,

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 3>things start happening. And what was the weird contrast was

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 3>my ministry was going so great and the church was growing,

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 3>and my dad and the way he treated my mom,

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 3>and eventually he left, he went to go live by himself.

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>It was like culminated in this horrible thanks like the

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 3>worst Thanksgiving ever.

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Where we went to see him.

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 3>The only place he would live was in this nursing

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 3>home and they had him calling Bingo in the nursing home.

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you can laugh about it, because it was like

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 3>how did we come to this? Like how can they

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 3>not even live together? How do we spend all this

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 3>money and all this time? And he raised me all

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 3>this time and coach my teams and all this, and

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 3>then it's going to end like this. When we would

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 3>try to talk on the phone, he would end up yelling.

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I would end up yelling, and then I'd end up preaching.

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 3>And then I go back and talk to my dad

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.240
<v Speaker 3>and I'd end up yelling and he would end up yelling.

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 3>But when I went by his house on Father's Day,

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I thought, well, maybe maybe if I write down. I

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 3>took a notebook and I told Holly, can you drive

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 3>for me for a minute. We were coming back from

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 3>a family trip, and I said, I need to do

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 3>something real quick.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Can you drive for me? And can we stop by

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>my dad's house.

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.839
<v Speaker 3>He was living all alone at that time, by his

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 3>own choice. And I sat there while Holly drove, and

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I wrote down a memory for every year that I

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 3>had been alive of.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Him being my dad.

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Because I knew we couldn't talk, but I thought, well,

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe if we could just communicate in writing. And when

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 3>we showed up at the house and he opened the door,

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:29.919
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like threw the list at.

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Him, you know, like happy fucks.

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Made a list for you, because maybe maybe this is

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 3>a dumb idea, but maybe it could open a door

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 3>for us to have a relationship.

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It's the maybe moments, you know. If I'm going to

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>tell you about my maybe moments that.

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Result in starting a church that reaches the world, I

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 3>think I owe it to you to tell you about

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:05.240
<v Speaker 3>my maybe moments that were messy to it's not always

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 3>so clear, it's not always so perfect, it's not always

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 3>so brilliant, it's not always so strategic.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Life has lived in those maybe moments.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 3>And so I got to sit beside him as he

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 3>breathed his last breath after three days that hospice had

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 3>been in much later, after a progression where my mom

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 3>graciously let him back in the house and cared for

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 3>him until he died, and I got to be there,

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 3>reading to him from Charles Spurgeon sermon The Peaceful Sleep

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 3>of the Beloved. After I sang to him the Old

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Rugged Cross, and I thought he was going to pass quickly,

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 3>but he stayed around like three days, and I ran

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 3>out of hymns and started having to sing James Taylor

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 3>and Hoodie and the Blowfish. I mean, I was there

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 3>for all of it in that moment because of moving

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 3>forward with a maybe, I believe God sent me with

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 3>this message today and I'm overtime. I'm so overtime. It's

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 3>going to be awful in the parking lot in the rain.

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 3>God give me, and please smile at people on the

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:02.879
<v Speaker 3>way out and tell me it's going to be worth it.

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>But please listen to me. Listen to me. You're in

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a maybe moment.

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 3>You're in a maybe moment, slipper on one side, thorny on

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the other. Don't have everybody with you thought you'd have

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 3>with you, just got a armor bearer. Father, I pray

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 3>today for the faith for your people to move forward

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 3>on a maybe in this moment. You're the God of

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 3>all wisdom. You're the God who sees all, knows all,

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 3>and can do anything. I thank you, Lord that there

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 3>are miracles emerging even now as I speak, in bodies,

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 3>in relationships, in careers, in families. God, I thank you

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 3>that ministry is birthed out of maybe. We thank you

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 3>God for giving us the Holy Spirit inside of us.

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 3>We thank you for giving us the finished work of

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 3>your son, to let us know that you are good,

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 3>and you do good, and all things work together for

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 3>the good of them that love you. Over every maybe situation.

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Give your people now, by your grace the kind of

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 3>faith that it takes to move forward and it maybe

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:14.760
<v Speaker 3>for we believe that nothing can hinder you from saving,

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 3>whether by many.

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Or by few. Thank you for joining us.

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0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 2>this ministry is because of you that this ministry is possible.

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:30.680
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