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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.

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Speaker 2: I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our

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Speaker 2: podcast and I wanted to thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith.

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Speaker 2: Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving

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Speaker 2: in your life.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the message.

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Speaker 3: How many are excited about this series that we're in.

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Speaker 3: The series is called Maybe God. The subject is His voice,

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Speaker 3: his will, his ways. How do I know if this

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Speaker 3: opportunity comes from the Lord? And now have a scripture

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Speaker 3: for you today that I think will be a great

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Speaker 3: blessing in your life. It's in First Samuel, chapter fourteen,

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Speaker 3: verse number six. The Bible says Jonathan said to his

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Speaker 3: young armor bearer, Come, let's go over to the outpost

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Speaker 3: of those uncircumcised men. He's talking trash about the Philistines.

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Speaker 3: He calls them a derogatory name. He's talking about their uncircumcision. Wow,

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Speaker 3: he must be fired up about something. He's a little belligerent.

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Speaker 3: He's getting bold now again. Afford to wait around and

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Speaker 3: wait for something to happen from heaven when God has

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Speaker 3: already given him a certain power on the earth. So

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Speaker 3: he turns to who he has available at this point

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Speaker 3: and says, let's go. It's just me and you, but

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Speaker 3: touch somebody, say let's go now. I want you to

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Speaker 3: be a favor if you're the only one on your

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Speaker 3: row who praises God today during this sermon, I want

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Speaker 3: you to go and look at somebody next to you

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Speaker 3: and say, well, you go with me. Amen, he said,

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Speaker 3: let's go over to the outpost of those uncircumcised men.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps the Lord will act in our behalf.

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Speaker 3: Nothing can hinder the Lord from saving, whether by many

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Speaker 3: or by few. In this third installment of Maybe God,

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Speaker 3: my subject and my lesson today is called fifty fifty faith.

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Speaker 3: I want to teach you on this principle that has

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Speaker 3: been so useful in my life as a leader, and

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Speaker 3: it's useful for me as a husband, as a dad,

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Speaker 3: and just as a man.

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Speaker 1: Fifty fifty faith.

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Speaker 3: I believe this principle is going to set you free

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Speaker 3: in some of the areas where indecision has imprisoned you

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Speaker 3: and you've been waiting around, and God is going to

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Speaker 3: show you something today by the power and virtue of

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Speaker 3: His word and spirit, that only He could show you

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Speaker 3: about fifty fifty faith, praise the Lord. I celebrated my

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Speaker 3: thirty ninth birthday this week. Appreciate your pity. You know

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Speaker 3: that last one with the three in front of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm owning it. I am so owning turning forty. I

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Speaker 3: am so owning these little gray whiskers that are popping up.

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Speaker 3: I'm not dying them or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell them to get a close up on

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Speaker 3: these gray these great things on the camera. Just zoom

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Speaker 3: right into the greyest pat you can find in this beard.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of it.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what my kids say about it, and

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Speaker 3: when they tell me that my jokes are cringy and

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Speaker 3: the other day, and I just asked him a question back.

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Speaker 3: asked him a question. I said, how many people show

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Speaker 3: up to hear you speak? Since I'm so cringey conversational

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Speaker 3: parenting approach, you might want to try it sometime. But

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Speaker 3: one of the things I think keeps happening to me

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Speaker 3: my ministry in life, because I have been doing this

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Speaker 3: as a pastor over thirteen years. Is that I feel

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Speaker 3: so good saying that it felt cool. I've been doing

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Speaker 3: this over thirteen years. That's a long time to do anything.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 3: I've never been less certain and I've never been more confident,

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Speaker 3: all at the same time, all at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Strange thing, how when you give up your need for

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Speaker 3: certainty you can gain a true confidence that is independent

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Speaker 3: of circumstance. Can I preach to somebody today right here

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Speaker 3: Testament Narrative Scripture, I would want to nominate Jonathan is

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Speaker 3: Every couple of years I preach it, and when I

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Speaker 3: But I also see all of the uncertainty and self

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Speaker 3: doubt that it also entails, and that my faith is

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Speaker 3: not a formula, and it can never be. The more

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Speaker 3: valuable it becomes to me. When life challenges all of

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Speaker 3: my presuppositions, and all of my ideas about what kind

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Speaker 3: of ways God wants to work collapse under the weight

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Speaker 3: the weight of real medical reports. And I need the

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Speaker 3: kind of faith that is not dependent on my presuppositions.

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Speaker 3: Now around the verse that I read you is a

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Speaker 3: I've used a few different old Testament passages from Judges

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Speaker 3: trust God. In this particular transition a negative one for

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Speaker 3: the nation of Israel. King Saul has really lost his

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Speaker 3: the rule of David, remember Sampson began to deliver them.

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Speaker 1: That's last week. And you need to go on and

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Speaker 1: watch that message about.

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Speaker 3: The parentheses and the pivot and how there's a purpose

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Speaker 3: even if I have to leave it blank right now,

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Speaker 3: God is going to do something in this empty space

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Speaker 3: in these parentheses, And I'm gonna put the parentheses there,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna let God fill them because He's too

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Speaker 3: wise to make a mistake in my life.

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Speaker 1: And that message is online.

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Speaker 3: It's on YouTube and Facebook and elevation app and MySpace,

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Speaker 3: it up there. Roku all of it. When when I

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Speaker 3: the living God, he has begun to manipulate. When he

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Speaker 3: he loses that unique ability that we have to hear

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Speaker 3: you waste worry on situations that God didn't even want

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Speaker 1: So that's why I need to hear his voice.

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Speaker 3: Saul, having lost that ability, is now surrounded by his enemies,

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to put the word thickets in there,

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Speaker 3: Sometimes we find ourselves talked away in mindsets, in patterns,

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Speaker 3: point out that the enemy always attacks you at the passages.

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Speaker 3: you were to where you're going. And so when he

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Speaker 1: And then one day somebody shout.

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Speaker 3: One day, one day, Jonathan, son of Saul said to

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Speaker 1: In your life? How many know I'm right about that?

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Speaker 3: Saul was staying on the outskirts of Gibea under a

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Speaker 3: would be easy. God didn't promise me that his will

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Speaker 3: God is that it just falls into place. No, he

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Speaker 3: his will is that you are experiencing warfare. It could

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Speaker 3: or even if some are going crazy.

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Speaker 1: In your life. And on each side was a challenge.

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Speaker 1: On each side was a challenge.

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Speaker 1: And Jonathan said to his young.

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Speaker 3: those uncircumcised men.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps the Lord will act in our behalf.

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Speaker 3: or by few. God, I love your word. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Thank you for putting that one little word in your word.

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Speaker 3: two special stones that would go not on the breastplate,

441
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Speaker 3: but behind the breastplate.

442
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Speaker 1: When the priest wore the ephant, which was like a.

443
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Speaker 3: Kitchen apron where he would keep the vestments that were

444
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Speaker 3: appropriate for his duty. And on that ephant was the breastplate,

445
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Speaker 3: and behind the breastplate was Eurrem and Themim.

446
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Speaker 1: Whether these were.

447
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Speaker 3: Stones or some other sort of special object, we are

448
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Speaker 3: dependent on the incomplete records of archaeologists to make known

449
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Speaker 3: to us. But one thing we know. It was one

450
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Speaker 3: of the ways that God spoke about his will to

451
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Speaker 3: his people. He spoke through the prophets, he spoke through dreams,

452
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Speaker 3: and he spoke through these stones. I'm gonna call them

453
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Speaker 3: stones because that's the closest thing we can know to

454
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Speaker 3: what they were. One represented yes and one represented no.

455
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Speaker 3: That was the meme. Eurreme was a little different. It

456
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Speaker 3: was said to be a stone that would light up.

457
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Speaker 1: And watch this.

458
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Speaker 3: You are to put it behind the breast peace or

459
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Speaker 3: in the breast piece, so that they may be over

460
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Speaker 3: Aaron's heart whenever he enters the presence of the Lord.

461
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Speaker 3: Thus Erin will always bear the means of making decisions.

462
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Speaker 3: I love that little phrase, the means of making decisions

463
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Speaker 3: in the presence of the Lord. Everybody has a means

464
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Speaker 3: of making decisions. Everyone has a way that they try

465
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Speaker 3: to figure out, where is this going?

466
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Speaker 1: Can I trust this person?

467
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Speaker 3: And I like this method a lot because all the

468
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Speaker 3: priests had to do was take out the stones the

469
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Speaker 3: meme it stands for perfection or decision, and then he

470
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Speaker 3: would take urreem, which represents light, which always represents revelation,

471
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Speaker 3: which always represents knowledge. And when God would speak through

472
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Speaker 3: these stones, you would inquire of him, and if the

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Speaker 3: answer was affirmative, Urrem would light up, and you would

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Speaker 3: know God wants us to do it. Like when David

475
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Speaker 3: was facing a battle at zick Lag and he had

476
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Speaker 3: to go back and recover his family and the families

477
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Speaker 3: of his men, and he asked the priest bring me

478
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Speaker 3: an ephod, because I need to seek the Lord, because

479
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Speaker 3: if I go into this battle and God doesn't want

480
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Speaker 3: me to go in this battle, if I do this venture,

481
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Speaker 3: if I go after this thing and God doesn't want

482
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Speaker 3: me to do this thing.

483
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Speaker 1: I'll be defeated.

484
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Speaker 3: But if he says yes, no power in Hell can

485
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Speaker 3: stand against me. Nothing can hinder the Lord from saving,

486
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Speaker 3: whether by many or by few. So David said, bring

487
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Speaker 3: me the ephod, because if God gives me light on

488
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Speaker 3: this situation, I can fight this battle. If God gives

489
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Speaker 3: me light on this situation, I can stand the trial.

490
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: I can stand the test, I can pass it. I

491
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Speaker 3: can do it if God says yes. But sometimes God

492
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Speaker 3: would say no, and then sometimes the stone would do nothing.

493
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Speaker 3: And what that meant was God doesn't want to answer

494
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Speaker 3: this right now. In other words, if I can take

495
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: you back to middle school, I love you, Do you

496
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Speaker 3: love me? Check yes or no? And sometimes I would

497
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Speaker 3: put a third box called maybe and sometimes they would

498
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Speaker 3: ask God, you know, should we go, should we stay?

499
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Speaker 1: Should we do it? Should we not? And the son

500
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Speaker 1: would do nothing? What do you do with them?

501
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: Maybe because a lot of times in our life, don't

502
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Speaker 3: you wish you had a urim and at the meme

503
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Speaker 3: in your closet? Come on right next to your belts.

504
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: I'd rather have a urim and at the meme than

505
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Speaker 3: a Rolex. I mean I'd rather have I would. I

506
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Speaker 3: would love if I could. What a what a what

507
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: a blessing it would be? You know how many you know,

508
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: how many staff members I never would have hired to

509
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Speaker 3: begin with.

510
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Speaker 1: Come on, this is a big church. Can I be

511
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: real with you? Do you know how many staff members i'd.

512
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Speaker 3: Just be if I could have just had that special

513
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Speaker 3: stone pull it out?

514
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be cool?

515
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how many how many things would you

516
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Speaker 3: have done differently?

517
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Speaker 1: And how helpful.

518
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Speaker 3: Would it be when you're making decisions if you could

519
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: just have a stone just to light up and tell you, yes,

520
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: this is God. You know how your kids start hanging

521
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 3: out with friends and you're wondering, like, I don't know

522
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: about these parents. They seem kind of like I don't

523
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: know I smelled something on their clothes, smell like it

524
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: might have been weed, or maybe it was something else,

525
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure.

526
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Speaker 1: Lord, should I let my kids hang out with these kids?

527
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Speaker 3: And God says yes, and you could get some sleep?

528
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Speaker 3: Or you know, God, should I take this job? It's

529
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Speaker 3: got more pay, but it's gonna mean more hours. I

530
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Speaker 3: just think it would be so cool if it would.

531
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Speaker 1: Light up and tell me.

532
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: And yet God, God, God knows something about me that

533
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't know about me. Is that even if He

534
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Speaker 3: gave me the light to know what to.

535
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Do, a lot of times I wouldn't have the faith

536
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Speaker 1: to do it.

537
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Speaker 3: You're gonna make me preach by myself and sit there

538
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: looking at me like I'm an entertainer.

539
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: You know, the truth.

540
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Speaker 3: Is that even sometimes when you know what to do,

541
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Speaker 3: even sometimes when you know this as God. And they

542
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: had these stones, They had these stones. It was behind

543
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Speaker 3: the breastplate, and the breastplate was under the pomegranate tree,

544
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: and the priest was doing.

545
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: Nothing with it.

546
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 3: They had the means of making decisions to know the

547
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Speaker 3: will of God, but their fear had put them in

548
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Speaker 3: a place, and their complacency had put them in a

549
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: place because when you have the instruments but you don't

550
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: use them. How can God speak to you when you

551
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: can't find this between sundays? How can God give you

552
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: his wisdom? And the important thing about it was Jonathan said,

553
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: we don't have the ephod Ahijah has the ephoon.

554
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: We don't have a complete clarity on this situation.

555
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: But what he had that was so important he had

556
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Speaker 3: the right person to turn to and talk about it.

557
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: I need you to understand the value not only of

558
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Speaker 3: what God says to you in your life, but about

559
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: who you say it to.

560
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Speaker 1: After God says it to.

561
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Speaker 3: You, the right people will give you the go ahead.

562
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Speaker 3: The right people will say, you know what, I'm gonna

563
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Speaker 3: help you as you do this. I know the addiction

564
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: has got you about three different cycles now and it

565
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: looks like this one won't be any different. But whether

566
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: or not you make it, I'm gonna be here with

567
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Speaker 3: you on it. So let's go ahead and do this

568
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: dumb thing, this impossible thing, this crazy thing.

569
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Speaker 1: And then sometimes they got to turn and tell you

570
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Speaker 1: that ain't got at all. But it's who you say

571
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Speaker 1: it to. It's who you say it. It's a fifty

572
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Speaker 1: to fifty.

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Speaker 3: Thing, it's not just my relationship with God, it's my

574
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Speaker 3: relationship with others. And a lot of us are suffering,

575
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Speaker 3: and so is in our relationship with God. Because we're

576
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Speaker 3: living in bitterness with our relationship with others.

577
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Speaker 1: You can't hear God just like this.

578
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: I guarantee you if Jonathan would have had an armor

579
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Speaker 3: bearer who told him, you know what.

580
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Speaker 1: Man, let me know how that turns out.

581
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Speaker 3: I'm praying for you signed the cross. I guarantee you

582
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Speaker 3: the battle wouldn't have moved on beyond Beth even that

583
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Speaker 3: day like it did, and even for me.

584
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Speaker 1: I can say this when people say, how did you

585
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: know God wanted you to start a church?

586
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Speaker 4: I read a book. I felt inspired. I got up

587
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Speaker 4: and preached. It seemed to help people read a book.

588
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: I got a wife. We were doing our thing. One

589
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: day she looked at me. In the mountains of Tennessee.

590
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Speaker 4: We're at some youth camp. Carl Cart was leading worship.

591
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: We came back to the room. People say, when, how

592
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Speaker 4: did you know? How did God speak to you it

593
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: was time for you to start the church. Because I

594
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: wanted to start it when I was forty. The church

595
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Speaker 4: wouldn't even be here right now. If Holly didn't turn

596
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Speaker 4: to me, not God. She was my yorem. God used

597
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Speaker 4: her like that. She said, it's time for you go

598
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Speaker 4: start this church. I said, when I'm forty. She said, no. Now, look, JJ, if.

599
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Speaker 3: You hear me saying on this message, you know God's

600
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Speaker 3: calling you to go. You know how many people I've

601
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: seen go start coffee shops because they like coffee and

602
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: they hear a message like this and abuse it and

603
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: they think that the whole point of the message is

604
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Speaker 3: just go do the dumbest thing you can think of

605
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Speaker 3: that you have a halfway interest in, and then blame

606
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: the devil when it doesn't.

607
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Work out because it was spiritual warfare.

608
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Speaker 3: And attack and nobody believed in my dream and I'm

609
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: nothing but Jesus on the cross and guard. And I

610
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Speaker 3: guess so many squeeze the olives and the oils coming out.

611
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: All of that is dumb because I'm not even talking

612
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: about that. I'm talking about who you talk to, about

613
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: what God is saying to you. And now now I

614
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: get to return the favor. I mean the other day

615
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Speaker 3: she she turned to me and was like, Hey, I'm

616
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Speaker 3: about to tell you something that I think God is

617
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Speaker 3: speaking to me because it's always a fifty to fifty thing, always,

618
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: always so. So I'm confident, but I'm not certain, you know.

619
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Speaker 3: And she was like, don't laugh at me. I'm like,

620
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Speaker 3: why would I laugh at you?

621
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Speaker 1: Tell me?

622
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Speaker 3: And what she told me, I said, not only have

623
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Speaker 3: you got to do that, but you got to do this,

624
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: this and this and this and this.

625
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Speaker 1: Because that's awesome.

626
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Speaker 3: Then I think she was sorry that she told me

627
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Speaker 3: because she didn't want to do this, this, this, and

628
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 3: this and this.

629
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Speaker 1: She just wanted to do that. But we started.

630
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Speaker 3: Talking, and you see how important it is not only

631
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Speaker 3: what God says to you. It's not only this being

632
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: of the cross, what is this one too? So I

633
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: don't have Uremn the meme. But I got Eugene.

634
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: I needed a rhyme.

635
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: It was it was a stretch at best, and Irene

636
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Speaker 3: and I got people.

637
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Speaker 1: Now this is so, this is so key. It's a

638
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Speaker 1: fifty fifty faith. It's a fifty to fifty.

639
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Speaker 3: That means it is a divine partnership where Jonathan says,

640
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, there is something that God can do, and

641
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: then there is something that God will not do that

642
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: only we can do.

643
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Speaker 1: Faith is fifty to fifty. James proves it clearly.

644
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Speaker 3: Not only does Jonathan exemplify it, James explains it when

645
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Speaker 3: he says, faith without works is it takes two? This

646
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Speaker 3: is a fifty to fifty proposition. Why would God do

647
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: for you what he gave you the strength to do

648
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 3: for you?

649
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: It is a fifty fifty faith.

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00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: It is not my faith that saves me, and I'm

651
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: grateful for that. How many are grateful that your faith

652
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: in Christ for salvation is.

653
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Speaker 1: Not fifty to fifty. Come on, because if it.

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Speaker 3: Was, I would be in hell before Monday at three

655
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Speaker 3: pm Eastern Standard time. But because he is my great

656
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Speaker 3: High Priest, y'all, I'm about to get happy on this sermon.

657
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Speaker 3: And because he took the breastplate.

658
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Speaker 5: Of his own righteousness into the most holy place and

659
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Speaker 5: shet his blood on the mercy seat, I don't ever

660
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Speaker 5: have to doubt if he wants to see me, or

661
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Speaker 5: hear me, or love me, or throw his arms around me.

662
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: He is my righteousness and I am his child, and he.

663
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Is my great high Priest.

664
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 3: Come on, shout about it like you got the good

665
00:35:51,480 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: sense to know this thing doesn't depend on me. Foundational

666
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: faith even that faith is the gift of God.

667
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: So that no one can boast.

668
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: But watch this, Jonathan say, perhaps perhaps the Lord will

669
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: it is.

670
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty. I know he can. I think he will.

671
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty. I know God is with me, and

672
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: I think this is where he's leading me. It's fifty

673
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: to fifty. I'm a fifty to fifty leader.

674
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: I pull seventy staff into this Monday and said, this

675
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: is what I think God's doing.

676
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: And I can't put a bow on it. But we're

677
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: gonna find.

678
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: Out together why Because God won't reveal truth if I.

679
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Don't move toward it ever.

680
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: And the issue is this experience is the friend of wisdom,

681
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: but it can be the enemy of faith.

682
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: You need me to run that back.

683
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: Experience is the friend of wisdom, but if you get

684
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: like Saul in a Hydi and keep the e foight

685
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: under the pomegranate tree, Jonathan said, we're going to have

686
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: to be our own ethought. We're have to put ourselves

687
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: out there and see if God will. And when Eugene Peterson,

688
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 3: he had this idea, right, he was trying to preach

689
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: the Bible. He's in heaven now, but he was trying

690
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: to preach the Bible to his church He realized that

691
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: they weren't really getting it, so he sat down to

692
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: write a translation of the Bible in a way.

693
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: They could understand.

694
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: You know that little version on your Bible on your phone.

695
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: I hope you got the Bible on your phone. I

696
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: hope you got the Bible up above Facebook on your phone,

697
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: because you need that one to start your day.

698
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: You really do, you really do.

699
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: You'll need to know what's going on in Russia every second,

700
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: but you need to know what's happening, what God intends

701
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: for your life. And if you click on it, there

702
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: will be one version that says MSG and it has

703
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the Chinese restaurant. The message translation,

704
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: and it was written by a man.

705
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Who was just seeing.

706
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: He had an idea, what if I write the Bible

707
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: in the language that's common to the people, And he

708
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: ended up translating the whole Bible that way.

709
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: The message translation.

710
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: All because maybe God will use this. You know, if

711
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: you act on it. If you act, it's fifty to fifty.

712
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: It's fifty to fifty. I'm not sure.

713
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

714
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: Look what he said when he translated for Samuel fourteen six,

715
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: My favorite verse about faith in the Old Testament. Look

716
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: what he said that Jonathan said to his armor bearer,

717
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: come on, now, come on, now, let's do it now.

718
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: Not when the priest gets his act together, not when

719
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: the government gets his act together, not when, but now,

720
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: we got to do this now.

721
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Now, come on, now, let's.

722
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: Go across to these uncircumcised pagans. And then he said

723
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: the title of my series, maybe God will work for us.

724
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe faith is being able to move on a maybe.

725
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: And you know what that means is fifty to fifty.

726
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: It might not work, but God is always working. I'm

727
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: confident in the second, even when I'm not certain in

728
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: the first. And it takes the kind of faith church

729
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: to say maybe maybe if I do this, maybe and

730
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: maybe it won't and maybe God will use this thing

731
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: that I think I'm supposed to do to lead to

732
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: something that I was really supposed to do, so that

733
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: even if the first thing fails, at least I'm not

734
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: sitting still in fear.

735
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: But it takes faith to move on a maybe.

736
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: When Yurim has gone dark and Saul is under a

737
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: tree and you don't know what to do but to

738
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: move toward it. God says, move toward it. It may work,

739
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: and even if it doesn't, I will It is the

740
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: power to move on a maybe, to know that God

741
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: is mystery, but he is revealed, his character is trustworthy.

742
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: I can move on a maybe. Father.

743
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this, but nevertheless, not my will,

744
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: but yours be done. So I'm gonna go see about

745
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: this and maybe somebody shout. Maybe maybe I've got a

746
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: maybe faith enough faith to do it and not know

747
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: the conclusion, but trust God in the process.

748
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: It's a maybe faith. I'm confident.

749
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: I'm not certain, but I'm confident. And you will find

750
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: yourself many times in your life in a maybe moment.

751
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Some of you are there right now. It's a maybe

752
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: moment for you. Maybe you are giving yourself to a

753
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: marriage that you don't know if it can live. Like

754
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: Ezekiel in the Valley of Bones, you don't even know

755
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: if anything's going to happen, but you're prophesying and speaking

756
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: forth and believing God to send the winds, and you're living.

757
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: In the maybe moment.

758
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: Maybe if we start a church, maybe maybe I know

759
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: who God is and I know nothing can stop him.

760
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: But it's fifty to fifty. Man, you want to do

761
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: it anyway? Maybe The miracle is in the maybe.

762
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: I wish I could preach this to every discouraged heart today.

763
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: God lives in a place called maybe.

764
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: Faith lives in a place called maybe.

765
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: So if you are in a maybe moment.

766
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: Today, that's where God lives.

767
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: Stand up when you're in that maybe moment, and if

768
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: you are, you know it.

769
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: And if you're not, you will need this message within

770
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: the next six weeks because life is full of maybe moments.

771
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: You will feel in that moment the coexistence of uncertainty

772
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: and confidence, and you'll feel like.

773
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: You're making it up as you go.

774
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: I like that image because Jonathan said, climb up after me,

775
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: climb up after me. I was thinking about how they

776
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: made it up as they win. But I had to go.

777
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: I had to do it.

778
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: I had to I had to trust God in a

779
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: in a maybe moment.

780
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: Maybe moments are like the moment where you could look stupid.

781
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 3: Maybe moments are the moments where you could be rejected.

782
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: Most of us aren't facing philistines and thorny, slippery cliffs

783
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: and geographical obstacles. Most of us are facing things that

784
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: are on the inside of us that seem insurmountable. And

785
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 3: God is in the maybe moment of your life when

786
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: you move forward. Anyway, when I stopped by my dad's

787
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: house and gave him the letter on Father's Day after

788
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: we had not spoken in months because I moved him

789
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 3: to Charlotte when his health got bad with my mom,

790
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: because he asked me to, and I told him, I said, Dad,

791
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: I want to do this for you.

792
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: You're my dad. I want to take care of you.

793
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: And we didn't know that he had als yet.

794
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: We just knew that he was very sick, and because

795
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: he was a self employed barber, I didn't know, you know,

796
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: if he was just honestly, my dad at that point

797
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: in his life was so illogical and irrational.

798
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was a good idea or not.

799
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: But I knew my dad was asking me for help,

800
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: and I knew that something was wrong, and when he

801
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: asked me to do it, I knew something inside of

802
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: me knew like this could turn out really bad, you know.

803
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: Like I told my dad, I said, you live three

804
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: and a half hours away from me right now, and

805
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: that works pretty good for us. If you come up

806
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: and we're all up in each other's face, you know,

807
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: it might not be good. And he said, I need

808
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: you to do this for me, and I said, I'll

809
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: never forget telling him. You know, I don't even think

810
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: this is a good idea, but I'm gonna do it.

811
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: You asked me to, and I love you. But please,

812
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: when you come up here, please, when you come live

813
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: in Charlotte. I knew my mom would be fine, she's great,

814
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: but I was like, you, please, don't do any of

815
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: this crazy stuff. And honest to God, no, sooner than

816
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: I sent the moving company to give him an estimate,

817
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: he chased the moving company out of the yard with

818
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: his walking cane. I mean, this guy, he was a

819
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: good dad for a lot of my life, but by

820
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: this point his medications as well as his physical condition,

821
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: he was starting to really lose his mind. But I

822
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: knew I needed to move him anyway, and it didn't

823
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: make sense at that point. In fact, when he got here,

824
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: when he finally moved after running off the moving company,

825
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: after he finally found a moving company that was fit

826
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: to move him, and I went to go see him

827
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: and check on him in the house that we had

828
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: found for them. First thing he did when I walked

829
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: in the door was complain about the house.

830
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: When I tell you that, I said.

831
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: Some Hebrew words and some Greek words, some monks corner words,

832
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: some compound cuss words. And it was like, over the

833
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: next few months, every bad thing that I thought was

834
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 3: going to happen, if I tried to do the right,

835
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: things start happening. And what was the weird contrast was

836
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: my ministry was going so great and the church was growing,

837
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: and my dad and the way he treated my mom,

838
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: and eventually he left, he went to go live by himself.

839
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: It was like culminated in this horrible thanks like the

840
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: worst Thanksgiving ever.

841
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Where we went to see him.

842
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: The only place he would live was in this nursing

843
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: home and they had him calling Bingo in the nursing home.

844
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's.

845
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: Okay, you can laugh about it, because it was like

846
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: how did we come to this? Like how can they

847
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: not even live together? How do we spend all this

848
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: money and all this time? And he raised me all

849
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: this time and coach my teams and all this, and

850
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: then it's going to end like this. When we would

851
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: try to talk on the phone, he would end up yelling.

852
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: I would end up yelling, and then I'd end up preaching.

853
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: And then I go back and talk to my dad

854
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: and I'd end up yelling and he would end up yelling.

855
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: But when I went by his house on Father's Day,

856
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: I thought, well, maybe maybe if I write down. I

857
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: took a notebook and I told Holly, can you drive

858
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: for me for a minute. We were coming back from

859
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: a family trip, and I said, I need to do

860
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: something real quick.

861
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: Can you drive for me? And can we stop by

862
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: my dad's house.

863
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: He was living all alone at that time, by his

864
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: own choice. And I sat there while Holly drove, and

865
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: I wrote down a memory for every year that I

866
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: had been alive of.

867
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Him being my dad.

868
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: Because I knew we couldn't talk, but I thought, well,

869
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: maybe if we could just communicate in writing. And when

870
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: we showed up at the house and he opened the door,

871
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 3: I kind of like threw the list at.

872
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: Him, you know, like happy fucks.

873
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: Made a list for you, because maybe maybe this is

874
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: a dumb idea, but maybe it could open a door

875
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: for us to have a relationship.

876
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: It's the maybe moments, you know. If I'm going to

877
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: tell you about my maybe moments that.

878
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: Result in starting a church that reaches the world, I

879
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: think I owe it to you to tell you about

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Speaker 3: my maybe moments that were messy to it's not always

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Speaker 3: so clear, it's not always so perfect, it's not always

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Speaker 3: so brilliant, it's not always so strategic.

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Speaker 1: Life has lived in those maybe moments.

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Speaker 3: And so I got to sit beside him as he

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Speaker 3: breathed his last breath after three days that hospice had

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Speaker 3: been in much later, after a progression where my mom

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Speaker 3: graciously let him back in the house and cared for

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Speaker 3: him until he died, and I got to be there,

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Speaker 3: reading to him from Charles Spurgeon sermon The Peaceful Sleep

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Speaker 3: of the Beloved. After I sang to him the Old

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Speaker 3: Rugged Cross, and I thought he was going to pass quickly,

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Speaker 3: but he stayed around like three days, and I ran

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Speaker 3: out of hymns and started having to sing James Taylor

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Speaker 3: and Hoodie and the Blowfish. I mean, I was there

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Speaker 3: for all of it in that moment because of moving

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Speaker 3: forward with a maybe, I believe God sent me with

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Speaker 3: this message today and I'm overtime. I'm so overtime. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be awful in the parking lot in the rain.

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Speaker 3: God give me, and please smile at people on the

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Speaker 3: way out and tell me it's going to be worth it.

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Speaker 1: But please listen to me. Listen to me. You're in

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Speaker 1: a maybe moment.

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Speaker 3: You're in a maybe moment, slipper on one side, thorny on

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Speaker 3: the other. Don't have everybody with you thought you'd have

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Speaker 3: with you, just got a armor bearer. Father, I pray

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Speaker 3: today for the faith for your people to move forward

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Speaker 3: on a maybe in this moment. You're the God of

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Speaker 3: all wisdom. You're the God who sees all, knows all,

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Speaker 3: and can do anything. I thank you, Lord that there

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Speaker 3: are miracles emerging even now as I speak, in bodies,

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Speaker 3: in relationships, in careers, in families. God, I thank you

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Speaker 3: that ministry is birthed out of maybe. We thank you

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Speaker 3: God for giving us the Holy Spirit inside of us.

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Speaker 3: We thank you for giving us the finished work of

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Speaker 3: your son, to let us know that you are good,

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Speaker 3: and you do good, and all things work together for

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Speaker 3: the good of them that love you. Over every maybe situation.

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Speaker 3: Give your people now, by your grace the kind of

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Speaker 3: faith that it takes to move forward and it maybe

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Speaker 3: for we believe that nothing can hinder you from saving,

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Speaker 3: whether by many.

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Speaker 1: Or by few. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to those of you who give generously to

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Speaker 2: this ministry is because of you that this ministry is possible.

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