Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty,
Speaker 1: and he Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 2: There's a lot not being said, and that's intentional. There's
Speaker 2: a delicate balance between informing the public and soliciting their assistance.
Speaker 2: Because there's millions of eyes in the United States. I
Speaker 2: can share leads with the FBI, which is desperately needed,
Speaker 2: but also not tipping your hands. So everything that's being
Speaker 2: said is being engineered by the Crisis Negotiation Unit, which
Speaker 2: is specialized unit out of Quantico, Virginia.
Speaker 3: That's a little analysis on MSNBC this morning of the
Speaker 3: investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. Why is Fox
Speaker 3: got a correspondent in a car with a camera driving
Speaker 3: between Annie Guthrie daughter in Nancy Guthrie's house right now?
Speaker 3: What are they speculating about there?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. The voice you heard was Christopher o'lary.
Speaker 1: He was addressing in part the bashing of the police
Speaker 1: chief for his press conferences, and Jack is a referenced
Speaker 1: several times recently. It's a real amateur hour there. He
Speaker 1: said nothing of the press conference, of the criticism on
Speaker 1: cable TV and in other places. He was trying to explain, No,
Speaker 1: there's a lot you don't want to say, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: This guy's about the best analysis analyst I've heard so
Speaker 1: far on this stuff. He's not a showman. He's not
Speaker 1: a you know, a blabbering jackass. Speaker of blabbering jackasses.
Speaker 1: The rich and famous who continued their relationships with Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: why what was the motivation? I think it was not
Speaker 1: nearly as mysterious as people think. Anyway, back to froh
Speaker 1: Leary next clip.
Speaker 2: Michael, Unfortunately, they have a ton of experience at that.
Speaker 2: There are really kidnapped for ransom almost every week that
Speaker 2: they deal with, usually in places like Mexico, Central America,
Speaker 2: South America, across Africa. But they're used to these rapidly
Speaker 2: evolving crisises and engaging with the captors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talking about the crisis negotiation unit that had
Speaker 1: referenced still earlier. That's interesting. They deal with another kidnapping every.
Speaker 3: Week, although that includes other countries. Because when he first
Speaker 3: said that, I thought, holy crap.
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, Americans in those other countries, but we
Speaker 1: didn't mention that they confirmed the red droplets in the
Speaker 1: front steps were Mom's blood. They confirmed that yesterday. That's
Speaker 1: not good. Yeah, that's definitely not good. Next clip, Michael.
Speaker 2: The one concerning thing is we don't have a line
Speaker 2: of communication established with the captors right now, and that
Speaker 2: needs to change because you cannot negotiate this release, and
Speaker 2: certainly with the serious concerns about Missus Guthrie's advanced years
Speaker 2: and medical conditions that have been stated, those are things
Speaker 2: you want to get ahead of, and time is of
Speaker 2: the essence right now.
Speaker 3: You know what I'd really like to know, and they
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't tell us, but I'd like to know how
Speaker 3: often kidnappers are successful with this. They get the money,
Speaker 3: they return the person, and they get away with it.
Speaker 3: I wonder how on the US, specifically the United States.
Speaker 1: I got to think it's very very low. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would guess it's increasing because of cryptocurrency. That's got to help. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he mentions at fair length that family members or
Speaker 1: close associates are pretty easy to rule out, and then
Speaker 1: we'll skip to forty four. Michael. He starts to discuss
Speaker 1: who might be behind this.
Speaker 2: Then you will get the more the doorbell camera was disabled,
Speaker 2: which shows a or suggests a certain level of sophistication
Speaker 2: here from the captors. So who you know in the
Speaker 2: history of kidnapped for ransom has that capability? Is it
Speaker 2: somebody that we think is local or what the concern
Speaker 2: is amongst some colleagues that I've talked to, is with
Speaker 2: the proximity to the border, is this potentially and not
Speaker 2: suggesting it is, but something investigators will look at that
Speaker 2: she was potentially taken by a Mexican kidnapped ransum organization
Speaker 2: who do this fairly routinely.
Speaker 1: And so the FBI being brought in here and number one.
Speaker 2: Has the authorities to do this both domestically across state
Speaker 2: lines but internationally, and they also have the reach and
Speaker 2: the connections and the bandwidth to do it. So they
Speaker 2: are most certainly discussing things with intelligence partners and our
Speaker 2: Mexican counterparts as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: If you don't know your US geography, two sons right
Speaker 3: on the border, so it'd be nothing to get across
Speaker 3: the border. But I just you know, he's the expert.
Speaker 3: But on one hand, okay, they disconnected the camera sounds
Speaker 3: like pros well, wouldn't pros have a better way to
Speaker 3: get in touch with somebody and ask for money as
Speaker 3: opposed to whatever's going on right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a disconnect there. You know, some loser
Speaker 1: idiot might also think I got to make sure she
Speaker 1: doesn't have one of those doorbell.
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound hugely sophisticated. I might think of that.
Speaker 3: And I've never contemplated a kidnapping in my life.
Speaker 1: Right, I've contemplated various pranks and acts of vengeance. Certainly,
Speaker 1: I think about that all day long. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: aware that there are doorbell cameras in the world. So
Speaker 1: and then he mentions, there's really no doubt it's an abduction.
Speaker 1: Eighty four year olds just don't start bleeding and then
Speaker 1: disappear completely and then finally forty six Michael.
Speaker 2: The other thing is, did somebody have a personal grievance
Speaker 2: against her? There's nothing to suggest that she sounds like
Speaker 2: a wonderful woman who is beloved, so who would have
Speaker 2: a personal grievance against her? And I do think NBC
Speaker 2: corporate Security, which is staffed by a bunch of former
Speaker 2: FBI and Secret Service, are working with the team on
Speaker 2: the ground to determine if Savannah had any previous threats
Speaker 2: or stalkers or anything, and they couldn't get to her,
Speaker 2: but are looking at missus Guthrie as a target of opportunity.
Speaker 3: I was listened to an expert yesterday who said oldsters
Speaker 3: don't get kidnapped very often, but every once in a
Speaker 3: while it happens, and they had an example of I
Speaker 3: think an eighty eight year old who got kidnapped last
Speaker 3: year and was gone for like a whole week but
Speaker 3: returned safely and they were okay, so it can't happen.
Speaker 3: The blood is not a good sign. Also the fact
Speaker 3: that she needs various medicines. If I was gonna guess,
Speaker 3: and I realize this is a really harsh to say,
Speaker 3: but if I was gonna guess, half wit grabs an
Speaker 3: old woman. Doesn't think it true. She dies because she's
Speaker 3: she needs this medicine. And now they're like okay, now what,
Speaker 3: oh crap, And they figure out a way to dispose
Speaker 3: the body. It'll turn up maybe five years from now
Speaker 3: in a desert hole somewhere or something.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's more specific than I'm willing to get. But yeah,
Speaker 1: some half wit who gets immediately overwhelmed and realized they
Speaker 1: bit off way more. Horrible horrible, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 3: Most of the time, all these stories have just such
Speaker 3: a disappointing what a waste ending there are There always
Speaker 3: such a you know, they hurt your soul because, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's all this excitement and talk about these sophisticated this
Speaker 3: or that that gives it a level of something meaning,
Speaker 3: I guess, and then when it turns out to just
Speaker 3: be a freaking idiot with a bad plan and now
Speaker 3: somebody's dead or really hurt, it's just so ah, why why.
Speaker 1: Do you even do it? Yeah, two thoughts on that one.
Speaker 1: I read just an absolute great piece. It'll stick with
Speaker 1: me for all of my days. I'm pretty sure about how.
Speaker 1: It's the disproportionality paradox. I think they called it that.
Speaker 1: So many assassinations or major moments in history are half
Speaker 1: wit loaners who do something extreme, and people can't comprehend
Speaker 1: something that stupid and small, a person that's stupid and
Speaker 1: small having an effect that gargantuan, and so they invent,
Speaker 1: you know, great conspiracies that are proportional to the effect,
Speaker 1: and that's really common.
Speaker 3: The idiot that killed Charlie Kirk. You kind of feel
Speaker 3: like a guy like Charlie Kirk deserves a better story, yes,
Speaker 3: for his assassination than this idiot.
Speaker 1: And I've told this story before, but it made a
Speaker 1: hell of an impression on me as a young man.
Speaker 1: Mike Royko was a brilliant columnist for the Chicago Tribune.
Speaker 1: He was robbed at gunpoint on a street. Guy stuck
Speaker 1: a gun in his face. And Royko, who had fought
Speaker 1: in World War Two, started a family, raised children, built
Speaker 1: a career, et cetera really influential guy, really well thought of.
Speaker 1: I loved him. Said, this stupid idiot, loser has the
Speaker 1: power to end my life and it's about to happen.
Speaker 1: That's just wrong. And that was the overwhelming emotion he
Speaker 1: was feeling. That is proportionality paradox.
Speaker 3: That is wrong, and that's where the just painful grief
Speaker 3: comes from. And how right way we've got.
Speaker 1: To punish the crap out of people who do that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Lefties, Marxists, blue states and cities. All right,
Speaker 1: now I'm angry. You got a completely different thing.
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Speaker 3: the elephant, oh tell you about?
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Speaker 3: So they're opening up the naming of a baby elephant
Speaker 3: at the zoo, well kind of with the full understanding
Speaker 3: that you can't trust people. They'll come up with names
Speaker 3: like Bodie mcwaite, boat face or whatever. Anyway, somebody suggested
Speaker 3: Ivory Trunkerson, Ivory Trunker and son. It's pretty good. Ivory Trunkerson,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, Ivory trunk and tips and scaet. You know,
Speaker 3: I was so amused by that thing.
Speaker 1: Stampy mctrunk face. Do you have that handy, that Tony
Speaker 1: Coppolo thing. It's short, it's pretty funny. Could you play
Speaker 1: that again? Okay, yeah, I get to hear it again.
Speaker 1: Naming the elephant you can't trust people.
Speaker 4: Twenty five National Zoo has welcomed a new baby elephant,
Speaker 4: the first there in twenty five years, described as alert
Speaker 4: and bright eyed, weighing in at three hundred and eight
Speaker 4: pounds at birth. Fans can now vote to name the
Speaker 4: new elephant on the zoo's website, but We all know
Speaker 4: how this sort of thing has gone.
Speaker 1: In the past.
Speaker 4: When Greenpeace asked for help naming an endangered whale in
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, mister splashy pants.
Speaker 1: Is what the public chose.
Speaker 4: Then we got body mcbote face in twenty sixteen, when
Speaker 4: the United Kingdom asked the public to vote on names
Speaker 4: for our research vessel of all things that inspired the
Speaker 4: Australian racehorse named Yes Horsey mc horse face.
Speaker 1: Lessons have been learned and the.
Speaker 4: National Zoo is asking for the public's help naming this
Speaker 4: beautiful new elephant. But you only get to choose between
Speaker 4: four options. The zoo has already approved this zoo is
Speaker 4: apparently not interested in your America for trunky mctrunk face.
Speaker 3: Mister splashy pants, you gonna end up with more and
Speaker 3: more amused zoogoers with Ivory Trunkerson or whatever.
Speaker 1: Banile name you chose. This is a Swahili named for elephants.
Speaker 1: This is one of your four possibilities.
Speaker 3: It indicates the majesty in the whatever.
Speaker 5: Yes, Katie, the four possibilities are weak too, are they? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I sent him over. They're they're weak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not surprised one of them means.
Speaker 5: You've got blossom. What Lynn, my spirit blossom? Okay, Just
Speaker 5: like Joe predicted, towne means gentle and beloved.
Speaker 1: They all have to be some sort of meaningful. Two.
Speaker 3: Aang traditionally means snow, referencing your winter birth. All right, whatever,
Speaker 3: it's all Vietnamese words. Lame law Again. I thought this
Speaker 3: was a mark. We're in America, all.
Speaker 5: Right, trunk you Mick trunk face exactly.
Speaker 1: Elephants are immigrating and taking our zoo jobs. Well, we
Speaker 1: actually have interesting stuff out of the Epstein files and
Speaker 1: it might bring down a prime minister in Great Britain,
Speaker 1: isn't that something? I say more on that.
Speaker 3: A little bit later, and a lot of stuff on
Speaker 3: the waist to here. As Joe mentioned earlier in the show,
Speaker 3: he got some more practically every day interesting AI stuff
Speaker 3: to tell you about, including some major investments by big companies.
Speaker 1: And how much of the economy is kind of linked
Speaker 1: into those giant investments. So stay tuned for that. This
Speaker 1: is so interesting. I mentioned this, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: a week ago, but I dig Dug Moore into it
Speaker 1: and I was just astounded by it. The National Park
Speaker 1: Service runs the President's House in Philadelphia. It's where Washington
Speaker 1: and Adams lived as presidents back when that was the capital.
Speaker 1: But the entire historical experience was turned woke. And here's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And by the way, Josh Shapiro
Speaker 1: was against the fixing of this. So the entire site
Speaker 1: was about Washington being a slave owner. One sign declared
Speaker 1: the site has been transformed into a space that honors
Speaker 1: the lives of those enslaved. And then this writer says,
Speaker 1: when I interviewed Ken Burns asked who is the greatest
Speaker 1: hero in the documentary of the American Revolution? He said, Oh,
Speaker 1: without a question, it's George Washington. We don't have a
Speaker 1: country without him. Definitely.
Speaker 3: What is that word they always use, the guy we
Speaker 3: couldn't live without indispensable man?
Speaker 1: Right. The President's House site features ruins of the house.
Speaker 1: It was mostly torn down in eighteen thirty two. It
Speaker 1: did not emphasize Washington's heroic virtues or actions because he
Speaker 1: had brought several slaves north with him as president. It
Speaker 1: described his actions as deplorable, profoundly disturbing, and having mocked
Speaker 1: the nation's pretense to be a beacon of liberty. He
Speaker 1: and the other founders were accused of injustice and immorality.
Speaker 1: Sign headings read Washington's deceit and Washington's death and a
Speaker 1: renewed hope for freedom. Meanwhile, visitors were told that enslaved
Speaker 1: labor played a dominant role in the nation's economy, and
Speaker 1: even that slaves built the nation. An extensive slavery timeline
Speaker 1: neglected to mention the Civil War. The site not only
Speaker 1: ignored Washington's role in shaping the young Republic, but failed
Speaker 1: to present his actual views and actions regarding slavery. Such
Speaker 1: an account would know he was a slaveholder, but also
Speaker 1: that he declared the gradual elimination of slavery to be
Speaker 1: among my first wishes. It would mention his role in
Speaker 1: drafting the Fairfax Resolves in Mount Vernon seventeen seventy four,
Speaker 1: which condemned the slave trade as a wicked, cruel and
Speaker 1: unnatural one and called for putting an entire stop to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people can't deal with this. I
Speaker 1: really don't. Well, most people can.
Speaker 3: It's just somehow the people that can't or don't want
Speaker 3: to deal with it, like grown ups, end up in
Speaker 3: charge of the plaques.
Speaker 1: Well can't deal with what has grown ups.
Speaker 3: Slavery existed, but you gotta give credit to the dude
Speaker 3: who formed this whole country and all the things he did.
Speaker 3: How can you not deal with those two things existing
Speaker 3: at the same time but emphasize the fact that the
Speaker 3: father of our country played this role.
Speaker 1: But again, you've got two groups of people. You've got
Speaker 1: the soft heads you're thinking about. The activists know precisely
Speaker 1: what they're doing. You've got to portray George Washington as
Speaker 1: merely a devil. You've got to separate people from their
Speaker 1: history and their truth. The Marxist snow precisely. But the
Speaker 1: fact that we allow that to happen is so frustrating.
Speaker 1: That's that's why Marxists always use quasi moral arguments, because
Speaker 1: they know people will hear them and think, well, I
Speaker 1: want to be a good person, so I guess I
Speaker 1: agree with that, and they fall for the hardcore activists,
Speaker 1: you know plots. It's a perfect example of this disgusting
Speaker 1: speaking of disgusting, and Trump trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: that is seen as you know, evil book, Bernard Nazi
Speaker 1: something yeah, exactly. In fact, Josh Shapiro said, it's an
Speaker 1: effort to rewrite and whitewash our history, and you just
Speaker 1: lost my vote, jackass. Speaking of Jacks is in immorality.
Speaker 1: People who's stuck with Jeffrey Epstein? Why I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the Israeli's or anything mysterious. I think it's that
Speaker 1: they liked the lifestyle. You think it's class more than
Speaker 1: anything else.
Speaker 5: Stay with us, Armstrong and Geeddy.
Speaker 6: London's Metropolitan Police launching a criminal probe into allegations of
Speaker 6: misconduct when Peter Mandelsson was Business Secretary back in the
Speaker 6: late two thousands, but the Prime Minister's judgment is also
Speaker 6: now under scrutiny.
Speaker 1: I regret appointing him.
Speaker 3: If I knew then what I know now, he would
Speaker 3: never be anywhere near government.
Speaker 6: Given the fallout, there is also the question of what
Speaker 6: Epstein was doing and why the Polish government is now
Speaker 6: investigating whether Russian intelligence services may have been involved.
Speaker 1: Ooh boy, mm they're talking about Peter Mandelsson there. He's
Speaker 1: a British high official in the Labor Party and as
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, this guy has been booted out of
Speaker 1: office now through times for a serious scandal, including you know,
Speaker 1: finding it not like he was rude to somebody in
Speaker 1: an elevator like insider information and betrayal of the British
Speaker 1: people and all, but they keep dragging him back. But
Speaker 1: so this I wish I knew more about it.
Speaker 3: First of all, watchers of British politics believe this might
Speaker 3: actually bring down the Prime minister the scandal. And this
Speaker 3: dude isn't accused of sex stuff, right, it's bribe stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's where it gets really interesting and brings us pretty
Speaker 3: directly back to what we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to continue why people stuck with Epstein
Speaker 1: after he was convicted of the initial underage prostitution, soliciting,
Speaker 1: trafficking king and then was accused of an investigated four
Speaker 1: and was going to be tried for even more serious charges.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people have all sorts
Speaker 1: of wild spy you know, drenched you know, theories in all,
Speaker 1: but in reading a bunch these and we've got a
Speaker 1: different group of them now, it strikes me as here's
Speaker 1: how I illustrated. So you got a friend you know,
Speaker 1: you're just you're friendly with her, you like them, okay,
Speaker 1: but that's it. Then you got a friend who you
Speaker 1: like them, and they have their own plane and sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't know what's your pleasure. For me, it'd be
Speaker 1: sometimes they take their plane to really cool golf courses
Speaker 1: a couple of states away and you all play golf
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and then you fly back and
Speaker 1: it's really really cool. Maybe you like to go to
Speaker 1: New York for the theater whatever. You have a friend
Speaker 1: who says, yeah, hey, I'm taking the Gulf Stream to
Speaker 1: New York to catch the latest show that I have
Speaker 1: tickets for. You want to come? You might put up
Speaker 1: with a little more of you know, he smacks his
Speaker 1: lips when he eats his food or she eats her food.
Speaker 1: But and imagine if somebody had so much wealth and connections,
Speaker 1: they could connect you to well, a private resort island
Speaker 1: where all the pleasures of life are availed. You don't
Speaker 1: pay a dime. Probably you meet all sorts of rich
Speaker 1: and famous and interesting people, and you might want to
Speaker 1: stay friends with that person, for instance, British billionaire rich.
Speaker 3: And occasionally he throws in things like, hey, are your
Speaker 3: son's going to college? You know, I know some people
Speaker 3: where's he wanting to go? And then gets him into
Speaker 3: Georgetown or whatever, and yeah, happy.
Speaker 1: To write a letter. I know the president of the university.
Speaker 1: I'll just you know what, I'll call him. You're thinking wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And as was described, who was it? Was it Mark Halpern,
Speaker 1: somebody a good journalist. It might have been, Yeah, Helpern
Speaker 1: was talking to what's her face? The skinny blonde gallo
Speaker 1: has gone crazy and gone Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Megan
Speaker 1: Kelly right about he you would literally be invited to
Speaker 1: a dinner party with Bill Gates and Katie Kirk when
Speaker 1: she was at the height of their fame. They were
Speaker 1: at the height of their family. So billionaire Richard Branson
Speaker 1: wrote to Epstein in twenty thirteen after hosting him at
Speaker 1: one of his Giants estates. It was really nice seeing
Speaker 1: you today. The boys in water sports can't stop speaking
Speaker 1: about it. Anytime you're in the area. Would love to
Speaker 1: see you, as long as you bring your harem, he wrote.
Speaker 1: Branson then outline outlined a public relations strategy centered on
Speaker 1: Bill Gates. He suggested Gates could say publicly that Epstein
Speaker 1: had been a brilliant advisor, that Epstein quote slipped up
Speaker 1: many years ago by sleeping with a seventeen and a
Speaker 1: half year old woman and was punished for it, okay,
Speaker 1: and that Epstein quote had more than learnt your lesson
Speaker 1: and done nothing that's against the law, sins. And yes,
Speaker 1: as a single man, you seem to have a penchant
Speaker 1: for women, but there's nothing wrong with that. Now. A
Speaker 1: spokeswoman for Branson said Epstein used the word harem to
Speaker 1: refer to adult women's he brought women, he brought along,
Speaker 1: and Branson wouldn't have used it if you knew of
Speaker 1: his crimes. This was in twenty thirteen. Keep in mind
Speaker 1: after it had already been convicted and done time. She said,
Speaker 1: Branson supports reaplitating form offenders and made a general comment
Speaker 1: Depstein about moving on. Richard believes Epstein's actions were abhorrent
Speaker 1: and supports the right to justice for as many victims.
Speaker 1: She said, now here's a super prominent woman lawyer.
Speaker 3: Now I've heard that presented as when he said harem,
Speaker 3: that's a one hundred percent he was talking about underage girls.
Speaker 1: Well that's not obvious. No, that's not proof of anything.
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, the former Trump White House strategist right oh Maga,
Speaker 1: pushed a more aggressive approach than the lady lawyer, who
Speaker 1: was trying to help him rehabilitate his image. In June
Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, Bannon messaged Epstein with an urgent assessment,
Speaker 1: who was running this op on?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Something serious going on? It's an op, dude. I do
Speaker 1: this for a living. The pieces that are dropping are
Speaker 1: deeply researched. This is a sophisticated op. Five months later,
Speaker 1: the Miami Herald published Perversion of Justice, interviewing Epstein victims
Speaker 1: on the record and raising questions about Epstein's lif lenient
Speaker 1: plea deal back in the earlier two thousands.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. Who did make that decision to go
Speaker 3: after Epstein.
Speaker 1: By early twenty nineteen, Epstein Bannon were in regular contact
Speaker 1: about strategy. Epstein asked Bannon whether to respond publicly and how.
Speaker 1: Banton council restraint, warning that public engagement would only extend
Speaker 1: the news cycle. No comment from Bannon since then, you
Speaker 1: got Noam Chompsky again. I've watch in feb nineteen when
Speaker 1: all of this was the really ugly stuff was coining
Speaker 1: of light freaking non Chompsky, Nom Chomsky, the wokest of
Speaker 1: the woke, the I mean fully believes all that microaggression
Speaker 1: BS and all the language policing and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He's okay with helping this guy get out of trouble.
Speaker 1: In February of twenty nineteen, Epstein received the message from Chomsky,
Speaker 1: who also wrote, Bababl, I've watched the horrible way you
Speaker 1: are being treated in the present public. It's painful to
Speaker 1: but I think the best way to proceed is to
Speaker 1: ignore it. Less than a year prior, Epstein had transferred
Speaker 1: about two hundred and seventy thousand dollars to the former
Speaker 1: MIT professor, who said in twenty twenty three the transfer
Speaker 1: involved movement of his own funds and wasn't a payment
Speaker 1: from Epstein. When asked about his relationship with Epstein, Chemsky
Speaker 1: told The Wall Street Journal, first response is that it
Speaker 1: is none of your business or anyone's. Second is that
Speaker 1: I knew him and we met occasionally, and he wouldn't
Speaker 1: comment beyond that. One troubling.
Speaker 3: Facet of human nature that seems to be pretty true
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, most people, is.
Speaker 1: You can.
Speaker 3: Rationalize things in your head when you really want them,
Speaker 3: when you want a certain result. It seems like we
Speaker 3: all can do that, And I don't know from an
Speaker 3: evolutionary standpoint why we have the ability to do that.
Speaker 3: But you know, if you really want this job, relationship,
Speaker 3: chunk of cash, house, outcoming a trial, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: you can rationalize all kinds of things that you might
Speaker 3: initially known we're wrong or bad, but you have twist
Speaker 3: in your head some sort of convoluted logic to come
Speaker 3: up with a way to get there.
Speaker 1: And apparently we all can do that. Yeah, some a
Speaker 1: little and some a ton. I think. Yeah. And now
Speaker 1: if we take a fairly timely break, there's all sorts
Speaker 1: of interesting news from the world of AI we could
Speaker 1: touch on. We want.
Speaker 3: I love the idea that we got a late night
Speaker 3: joke off about the Olympics. I'd like to get to
Speaker 3: at some point let's do that, So stay tuned. We
Speaker 3: won't get to some of that AI stuff at some point.
Speaker 3: We got a whole nother hour of show left, hour
Speaker 3: four that we will get to, which will include clips
Speaker 3: of the week.
Speaker 1: Here's your keep you interested. Note from the AI thing.
Speaker 1: They're spending zillions of dollars and there are a lot
Speaker 1: of companies spending tremendous amounts of money. A lot of
Speaker 1: it's borrowed, and a lot of it's borrowed from banks,
Speaker 1: including Big Banks, and a lot of the companies that
Speaker 1: are going to be decimated perhaps by AI are borrowing
Speaker 1: big from big banks. What if that all went kerb
Speaker 1: Bluey Anyway Station.
Speaker 3: So the opening ceremony the Winter Olympics tonight, looking forward
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 1: I always like watching that. I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: get a kick out of watching.
Speaker 3: Young people from all these different countries and you know,
Speaker 3: so excited to be there. You know, the United States,
Speaker 3: you become a big star and you're you're playing in
Speaker 3: front of draive Skys. But most of these athletes from
Speaker 3: these little countries, they've never been in a stadium like that,
Speaker 3: full of people and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: I just love that. Well, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: American kids are in obscure sports too. And then you
Speaker 1: see our big team in the red, white and blue.
Speaker 1: It's fun. But yeah, countries march out and you're like,
Speaker 1: that's a country and they got two guys, but those
Speaker 1: guys are super excited. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of charming. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the late night talk show hosts tried to make
Speaker 3: some jokes out of the Olympics. And we do this
Speaker 3: thing where we gather all the different jokes and have
Speaker 3: a late night joke off.
Speaker 1: How does this work, Joe jack I will be grading
Speaker 1: each attempt at humor and the bottom grade getter will
Speaker 1: be banned from comedy for life. Let's here, Michael. The
Speaker 1: opening ceremonies for the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 7: The most accomplished amateur athletes from all the countries in
Speaker 7: the world who hate us are gathered in Italy right now.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you nothing gets me going more than spandex
Speaker 7: clad Lithuanians on a nine hour tape delay.
Speaker 8: The Winter Olympics opening ceremony.
Speaker 1: And fat skater.
Speaker 8: Aaron Jackson and Bob's letter Frank Delduca will be the
Speaker 8: flag bearers for Team USA.
Speaker 1: Aaron says she's thrilled.
Speaker 8: Well, Frank said, it'll be tough to perform with that
Speaker 8: three other guys pressed against him.
Speaker 1: It's like turn you know Kimmel shockingly with an A minus.
Speaker 1: Its pretty It started bad, but it got better. Fallon
Speaker 1: with a C and that's generous because I like him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Myers winning with an A. Congratulations Seth Myers. That was
Speaker 1: the by athletes that there was short and punchy. Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Jimmy you're banned from comedy for life.
Speaker 3: So the last I don't know how many opening ceremonies
Speaker 3: have included Savannah Guthrie of NBC, and she's not going
Speaker 3: to be there tonight for obvious reasons. Do you think
Speaker 3: they'll reference that at all? Is it just such a
Speaker 3: downer that you'd I don't know how you handle it.
Speaker 3: I think they will.
Speaker 1: I think they will say something to the effect of
Speaker 1: our colleague Savannah Guthrie was supposed to be here. I
Speaker 1: think we all know that Ordealer family is going through
Speaker 1: and want her to know she's in our thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 1: So here's Al Roker, right, here's Al Roker and spandex
Speaker 1: clad Lithuanians.
Speaker 5: You don't think they'd say, if you have any information
Speaker 5: on the case, call such and such a number two much?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: I think used to be Matt Lauer and Savannah Guthrie
Speaker 3: all the time. Then he got caught in a sex scandal.
Speaker 3: You don't think they'll throw in. I think the brother
Speaker 3: in law did it. You don't think they'll throw that in.
Speaker 3: I doubt it.
Speaker 1: So why do you think so?
Speaker 3: I mentioned this earlier? So I'm watching Fox and they
Speaker 3: had a reporter in a car driving from brother in
Speaker 3: law's house to missing mom's house the entire way and
Speaker 3: talking about how far it is, how close it is,
Speaker 3: what the roads are like, what are.
Speaker 1: They what are they suggesting there? I don't know if
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I just I'm reminded of an
Speaker 1: old boss of ours, so many many years ago, who said,
Speaker 1: these stories, you gotta it's like waves in Malibu. Now.
Speaker 1: I'd never spent a single second of my life in
Speaker 1: Malibu at that point, and I had no idea what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. But he said, you know, sometimes there's
Speaker 1: big waves, some days there's little waves. Sometimes they're tiny waves.
Speaker 1: But you got to keep the waves going to keep
Speaker 1: people interested in the store. Man, because there's interest here.
Speaker 3: That's some well there is interest in the story, no doubt,
Speaker 3: but that's some thin gruel of We're going to ride
Speaker 3: in a car between the two houses so you can
Speaker 3: see the actual road.
Speaker 1: Okay, this gives me nothing. We're going to show you
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. We're going to drive you along the route
Speaker 1: that the kidnapper almost certainly took, as it's the only
Speaker 1: way out of the subdivision. That sort of thing, that's
Speaker 1: what they'll go with. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The biggest news to yesterday to me was those red
Speaker 3: droplets were her blood.
Speaker 1: That is bad news.
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that she was bleeding as she
Speaker 3: was taken out of the house not good, you know, Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's not good.
Speaker 1: Of course it's not good. You get somebody that old.
Speaker 1: They they wouldn't take much of a Joscelyn before they
Speaker 1: were bleeding a little bit. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: blood there was, but yeah, it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I want edition music, but I wonder how it's not done.
Speaker 3: I wonder how many days we all hang on to
Speaker 3: this story because we could be at the end of
Speaker 3: new information very quickly, already.
Speaker 1: Could grow cold. Yeah, yeah, that would be horrible, but
Speaker 1: it's certainly possible. Yeah. Again, I call for transition music.
Speaker 1: The great Roger Miller. I wish I'd learned to play
Speaker 1: the saxophone in my youth. It's still late now, it's
Speaker 1: not too late. Now, it's too late. I'm old. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows that I took up the piano a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. I enjoyed every day, And what good hasn't
Speaker 1: done you enjoy and good for your brain.
Speaker 3: I sit in my bedroom singing songs playing the piano
Speaker 3: every night.
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds fabulous, but it's too late for me,
Speaker 1: as I think I mentioned so. On the other end
Speaker 1: of the life scale, Katie came up with this. We
Speaker 1: actually the other day on the Armstrong You Get any
Speaker 1: One More Thing podcast, we had an absolutely charming conversation
Speaker 1: in my opinion, about baby's laughter and that scientists are
Speaker 1: finally starting to recognize laughing as a significant developmental milestone
Speaker 1: and then trying to provoke laughter as another milestone. The
Speaker 1: more you think about it, the more you realize, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's an incredibly sophisticated thing for a creature's
Speaker 1: brain to do. Yeah, that's a milestone. Thought it was wonderful. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Another one newborns. Well, here's the headline, which oddly sounds
Speaker 1: like the line to a song. Babies are born ready
Speaker 1: for rhythm, while melody takes time. Actually you get the
Speaker 1: rhythm was off there. Melody takes time. Anyway. According to
Speaker 1: the study, newborns can predict musical beats within the first
Speaker 1: two days of life. What how did they put figure
Speaker 1: that out? They gave them drumsticks, put them behind a
Speaker 1: drum set, get busy kid, play along, all right, dick,
Speaker 1: But the brain showed no response to melodic patterns. Stupid,
Speaker 1: stupid babies. They had forty nine babies listening to bach
Speaker 1: piano pieces while scientists measured their brain waves using EEG technology.
Speaker 3: Oh is this bad news for parents that I know
Speaker 3: in the kind of town I live in who played
Speaker 3: classical music for their baby with the idea.
Speaker 1: That that was going to turn them into geniuses. Ah,
Speaker 1: it probably won't. But two day old babies can already
Speaker 1: sense when a musical beat is off, but their brain
Speaker 1: shows a little sign of tracking melodies. That's the main
Speaker 1: finding from research that recorded brain activity in forty nine
Speaker 1: sleeping newborns while classical piano music played through tiny earphones.
Speaker 3: That story is your newborn is sleeping, so take a
Speaker 3: nap or clean the kitchen.
Speaker 1: God, you study them if you want. I'm grabbing an
Speaker 1: app Yeah. Scientists discovered the babies into the world ready
Speaker 1: to groove to rhythm, but learning to appreciate a tune
Speaker 1: tune takes much more time. Study helps explain to my parents.
Speaker 1: Instinctively rock, bounce and sway with fussy infants. Babies appeior
Speaker 1: especially tuned to rhythm. I think we've known that for
Speaker 1: a long time. It's because there's a sway in the
Speaker 1: in uterow the you know, the summary of it is
Speaker 1: really all you need to know. So this is a
Speaker 1: shot at drummers. So what you're saying is even babies
Speaker 1: can play the drums. What do you call an idiot
Speaker 1: who hangs around musicians? Yes, but so not fair. The
Speaker 1: physical structures needed for processing pitch also takes time to mature.
Speaker 1: Adult brains can distinguish subtle frequency differences, and we have
Speaker 1: multiple notes in the melodic patterns. Newborn brains can hear
Speaker 1: that notes are different, but they can't predict what note
Speaker 1: might come next based on melody. That's a more sophisticated
Speaker 1: skill that likely develops because they've heard melodies. So I
Speaker 1: don't there's no downside of playing Bach through your belt.
Speaker 3: Sure, of course, mostly bad Bunny, that's what I would play.
Speaker 3: That's what you should go with. Gety lots of bad Bunny.
Speaker 3: Whatever gets your kid going.
Speaker 1: You could play Nirvana's in Utero in case your baby
Speaker 1: has a sense of humor and irony.
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