WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Bob Costas, Brandel Chamblee 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.559 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.040 Sports Radio Final Hour on this Wednesday, Dan and The 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.640 Dan Needs Dan Patrick Show will take you to Los 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.000 Angeles through the magic of radio and TV. If you're 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.400 watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, thank you for downloading 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.159 the app. Also, we'll talk to Brandal Shambling as we 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.400 get ready for the US Open, available on NBCUSA and 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.240 Peacock starting tomorrow. I did like that Rory and Brooks 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.920 Koepka are paired together. It will be a challenge that 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.920 golf course will be a great challenge. Eight seven to 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.400 seven three DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.200 handle at DP show. Congrats to the Vegas Golden Knights. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.800 After six long years, they finally won the Stanley Cup. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:52.280 Imagine if you're eight years of age and yeah, most 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.760 of my life I've been waiting for the Golden Knights 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.760 to win and they finally did it. You know that 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.960 there's some kid in Boston who went through that period 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.560 where the Red Sox and the Celtics and the Bruins, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.080 everybody was winning, and there was a window where you're like, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.920 if you went two years without winning a championship, there 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.959 It's like, oh my god, what a drought. You get 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:14.920 spoiled growing up? 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.479 Yeah, Mar Yeah, the socks like get rid of Terry Francona. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.080 I was like, you guys are so ungrateful. Final results 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.920 of the poll question from our two seat, and what 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.280 are we going with a final hour here? By the way, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.440 it was on this day tonight that Michael Jordan had 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.480 forty five points, including the game winner, as the Bulls 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.080 beat the Jazz and the NBA Finals in six games. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.840 Bob Costas was on the call, Bobble, join us coming 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:40.320 up here. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.360 Momentarily we had up there better protest strategy a quiet, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.160 empty stadium or a full angry stadium. Right now, we've 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.040 got fifty four percent of the vote to say quiet 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.040 empty stadium is a better way to protest. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.720 We started the show we christened the Golden Knights winning, 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.960 but we also talked about the Bills situation, because this 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.440 isn't one of those let's make up some dry here. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.920 It's June and we need some talking points here. We 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.000 need some you know, hot takes. Here's Josh Allen talking 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.960 about his relationship with his star receivers steff On Diggs. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.880 Internally, we're we're working on some things not football related. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.880 But you know, Steph, he's my guy, I see him, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.640 I love him, He's a brother of mine. You know, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.959 this does not work what we're doing here without him. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.960 You know, we really wished he was in here today 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.720 and he was out there and fill with us, and 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.519 that's that's not the case. But I've got his back 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.040 no matter what. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.720 The fact that it's not football related is what's concerning here, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.760 because you can figure out football and something changed when 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.000 Josh Allen got hurt, hurt his elbow and the offense 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.200 changed after the ninth game. But you get to the 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.840 playoffs and you had the altercation or incident on the 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.280 sidelines where Josh Allen is looking at his tablet. Stephan 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.480 Diggs is kind of calling him out there. But the 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.720 fact that they didn't remedy this during the summer, I 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.160 find that very very surprising and it is concerning. And 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.880 that's what Sean McDermott, their head coach, had to say 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.480 eight seven seven to three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.880 dot com, twitter handle at DP show. Bob costas Hall 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.480 of Fame broadcaster, was on the call twenty five years ago. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.919 Tonight we thought Michael Jordan's final shot, and Bob is 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.720 said that that was not exactly a push off by 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.160 Michael Jordan. It's like a major D showing you to 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.400 your table. Bob, I still that I've never been shown 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.600 to my table by a matre D where I nearly 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:39.200 fell over, So I'm going to disagree with that description. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.600 Yeah, but Dan, he wasn't falling because of the very 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:47.360 light push. He was already stumbling because because Michael had 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.160 faked him out of his sneakers. That's kind of what happened. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.560 If that happens in the second quarter of a regular 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.560 season game, nobody even disputes. No one turns and says, hey, wait, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:58.480 that was a push off. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:03:59.720 Nothing. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.720 It is because of where it happened. Who had happened 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.160 to one of the most iconic moments in the history 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.360 of sports. Forget about the NBA. If Utah has a gripe, 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.320 and they do in that game, there was no replay. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:18.400 Then in the first half, Howard Eisley hit a three 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.200 that was waved off as a shot clock violation, and 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.520 we had it on NBC. It's out of his hands 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.720 before the clock hits zero. So that's three points taken 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.040 away from Utah. Later in the game, Ron Harper hits 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.120 a two that did not beat the shot clock and 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.760 it was allowed. Now that's the five points. That's a 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.159 five point swing. Of course, when people say it's like, oh, well, 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.360 if that guy wasn't thrown out trying to steal second base, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.800 on the next guy homers, it would have been a 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.279 two run homer. That's not necessarily logical, because if the 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.919 circumstances are different, maybe what happened subsequently plays out differently. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.560 But in a game that was that close, you take 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.240 five points away from Utah, they have a case that 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.520 maybe they could have played a game seven in Utah 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.400 a few nights later. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.120 And I also go back to the play that's forgotten 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.440 and it's equally as impressive as Jordan Steel and Karl 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.520 Malone that led to the game winning shot. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.920 Yeah, he's being guarded by Rodman, and according to Michael's 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:19.880 subsequent testimony, he came around from the side and Malone 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.360 ever saw him. Michael left his guy along the baseline 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.880 and Malone is preoccupied with Rodbin and Michael comes from 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.600 the other side and slaps it away. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.160 Yeah, and then that led to what five seconds to 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.920 go where he hits the jumper as you guys were 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.960 game planning after he makes the steal, and then there's 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.440 a timeout, I believe, And then what is being discussed 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:48.040 by you guys in the anticipation because we've seen Steve 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.720 Kerr hit a game winning shot, John Paxson hit a 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.960 game winning shot. Is everybody in Unison that this is 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.360 going to be Michael Jordan taking the shot? 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.800 Yeah, pretty much, because when he's stole the ball, he 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.800 then has it and no one else touched it. And 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.800 when you think about it, what's surprising about that Pippin's 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.839 hobbling around with a bad back. He's Michael Jordan. He's 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.680 going to take that shot. He didn't pass it to anybody. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.960 He had it the whole time. He took it out 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.640 of the back court into the front court, made the 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.880 shot over Russell. But when he makes the shot, there's 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.760 five point two seconds left, So even though the Bulls 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.520 are up by one, whatever you say, the possibility that 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.640 this is a championship winning shot, the possibility that the 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.800 last shot Michael Jordan will ever take in his NBA career, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.080 which briefly turned out to be true until he came 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.320 back with the Wizards for an encore. That's a possibility, 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.360 but it's certainly not a certainty because there's still five 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.640 seconds left and you talk at score and Stockton got 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.280 a decent look. Harper was guarding him, as I remember, 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.080 had a hand in his face. He got a decent look, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.000 and as I remember, it hit the back iron, but 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.240 it was kind of on target. So if that goes in, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.960 they play a game seven on Utah's home floor. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.920 Take us back, and I apologize. I thought for some 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.680 reason when Jordan made the steal that they would have 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.240 called a timeout then, but you know, no timeout. Yeah, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.560 that's interesting strategy, But you know, strategy always helps when 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.160 you have Michael Jordan. We're talking to Bob Costas, who 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.360 was on the call. Let's go back to the FLU game. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.520 What did you know prior to the game, as you 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.920 know Michael's condition and why he was in that condition. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:25.480 You know, I didn't. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:30.680 Work the ninety seven playoffs. I had taken a hiatus 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:35.760 courtesy of my good friend and patron, Dick Eversol. So 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.120 Marv's doing the game and I think count of storms 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.600 doing the pre and post. Of course, I watched every 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.920 minute of it, and I find out later, and it's 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.440 a big part of the last dance. You know, did 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.200 he have the flu or did he have food poisoning? 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.320 And if you've ever had food poisoning Dan, which I 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.320 have had a couple of times, that's as bad as 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.560 you can feel, knowing for a fact that you will not. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:07:59.680 Die, you know. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.240 So it was food poisoning. I think it's even worse 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.160 than if he had merely had quote the flu. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.720 When you think of Jordan's career, it's almost like it 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.240 it grows. It's like Babe Ruth. It tends to grow, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:19.080 you know, metastasizes. They're just what is it about that? 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.040 Like Mickey Mantle's legacy, there's so many of these athletes 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.840 where you may not remember them being as great as 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.240 they were in the moment. But then as we kind 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.400 of move farther and farther away, does Lebron get the 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.120 benefit of this? Do you think the way Michael Jordan. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.720 Has no not as much through no fault of Lebron's 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.400 You can make a very strong statistical case for Lebron 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:48.240 in a Lebron Michael comparison and Lebron discounting centers. Because 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.160 I've always felt we've talked about this before they're in 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.920 a category. How do you compare Wilter Russell or Kareem 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.319 or Elijah Wahn or a healthy Bill Walton or whomever. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.600 How do you compore Shack? How do you compare them 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.920 to forwards and guards? Lebron never comes out these days 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.520 any worse than number two behind Jordan in that comparison. 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.720 But what Lebron does not have is as many iconic 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.199 moments that are replayed almost on a loop and are 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.719 in everyone's imagination, including those who didn't see it firsthand, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.160 going all the way back to the game winning shot 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.400 for North Carolina in eighty two against Georgetown, and then 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.079 being the centerpiece of the first Dream Team, and then 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.200 all those postseason moments, most of them in the finals, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.160 but even the shot on Elo in an earlier round 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.920 of the playoffs against the Cavaliers. So many of those 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:42.080 moments and the iconic commercials. Be like Mike and just 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.840 thinking about the game we're talking about now that is 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.920 still the highest rated game in NBA history, and the 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.920 ratings for those games during the eighties and nineties on CBS, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.720 bird Magic and then I'm sorry during the eighties on CBS, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.000 then in the nineties on NBC. The ratings for those 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:06.720 games generally dwarf the ratings that NBA games get now, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.680 and many of those NBA games are on cable rather 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.200 than over the air broadcast television, and that will diminish, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.720 not objectively, but in terms of the public imagination. That 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.120 doesn't just diminish Lebron in comparison to Jordan or Bird 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.280 or Magic. It will diminish Nicola Jokic. It will diminish 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.120 Jimmy Butler or whomever you want the name, through no 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:30.640 fault of their own. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.920 It's like Michael is Neil Armstrong. He's the first on 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.560 the moon, and everybody else may land there, but Mike 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.400 was the first there to plant the flag. Bob will 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.920 be doing an hour long interview with Albert Puholz later 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.840 today for MLB network and air to be determined there. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.160 A couple of baseball questions were well into the pitch clock. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:53.880 How do you feel? 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.559 I think in general all the changes have been tremendously successful. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.000 We've had a few players and managers tell me that 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.719 they think fifteen seconds with no one on base is 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.400 a little quick, and they prefer a uniform twenty seconds 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.560 nobody on and with men on base the uniform twenty seconds. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.600 But I haven't heard anybody dispute the general idea that 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:21.120 the pitch clock banning shifts the two pickoff throws per 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.360 at bat, which lets them base run and be a 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.080 bit more adventurous. It's nearly unanimous that this is not 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.400 just okay, but it's a rousing success. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:34.320 The A's moving to Vegas, does Vegas take the A's 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.120 out of the oak They're taking the A's out of Oakland, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.400 But do they take the nickname? 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.760 Well, if they keep the nickname, then the A's become 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.520 the first team in MLB history to have the same 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.920 name in four different locations, break breaking a tie they 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.320 had with the Braves. The Braves and the A's are 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.520 the only ones with three. The Braves were in Boston, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.080 in Milwaukee and now for a long time in Atlanta. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.640 And the A's were in Wadelfia, Kansas City, Oakland, and 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.760 now perhaps in Vegas. But last night, I'm sure you 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.000 saw this, Dan, and maybe you mentioned it earlier this morning, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.560 the A's had a reverse boycott night or whatever there 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.600 was process. Last night, Yeah, fans came out and the 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.280 idea was, let's fill this stadium, or at least have 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.840 much larger crowd than we've generally been drawing to show 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.960 that there's support there if we had reason that faith 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.080 in the team. And then throughout the game they're chanting 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.920 sell the team. Meanwhile, this team that was threatening the 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.559 worst record of all time for a season like making 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.840 these sixty two Mets look like a juggernaut. Now they've 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.680 won seven straight, so go figure. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.600 And the Angels are still in the playoff race, which 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.800 means as we get closer to the trade deadline, if 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.800 you're tempted to trade show hey Otani, it makes it 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.120 even harder because you're in the playoff race. What do 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.520 you think happens with Otani? 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.880 I don't think they trade him. And if they were 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.680 to trade him, it would make the Hall that the 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.800 Nats got for San Soto to San Diego look like 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.240 a pittance. I mean, you'd have to empty your entire 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.400 farm system, all your top prospects, plus throw in some 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.440 players that can be useful. Right now, I don't see 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.520 that happening. Plus, there's only a handful of teams that 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.880 are realistically in the mix. If he decides to leave 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.640 the Angels and sign with some other team as a 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.800 free agent. So why would those teams want to empty 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.319 their farm system if the real test is going to 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.400 come as to how much money they're willing to pay 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.200 him on a ten year deal or whatever it is 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.600 to sign a contract with them, and some team that 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.720 has no chance to sign him beyond that time, I 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.880 don't think is going to roll the dice and pay 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.040 the price it would take for a mid season trade 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.840 just to have a shot at a second or third 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.199 wildcard spot. Just doesn't seem to add up. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.520 Great to talk to you as always, Bob, thanks for 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:52.120 joining us. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:53.199 Thanks a lot. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.280 Dan. That's Bob Costas, Hall of Fame broadcaster working for 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.800 MLB Network and was the play by play voice of 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.720 the NBA on NBC from nineteen ninety seven through nineteen 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:08.040 ninety nine. Two thousand season and e Me, I thought 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.800 when Jordan made this steal that there was a timeout 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.440 and Phil Jackson let him go in transition and then 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.520 he hits the jumper there. I thought it was his 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:22.040 last shot because, as I've mentioned this before, Jordan would 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.040 always say through their PR person with the Bulls, hey 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.920 I'll talk to you when we win the championship. So 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.480 we were guaranteed Mike was going to come on Sports Center, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.720 and I was there to do the interview. He said, 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.840 when we win the championship, I'll come in now. Sometimes 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.240 in other series, other finals, he did come in, you know, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.800 maybe after a big game. We would always request him 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.960 and Phil Jackson. But Michael comes in and he's got 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:54.840 his shoes off, he's got a Cuban cigar, and he's 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.400 got the basketball's jersey is out, and he comes in 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.760 and I think that's the last time that we're going 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.360 to see him as a basketball player. So much so 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.680 when he left the room. As he left, I go, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.640 it's a shame you're retiring, because I want to I'd 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.320 love to have a piece of you. And he turns 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.160 and it's as if the game is still going on. God, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.240 I'll never forget this. He turns, he goes, what'd you say? 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.680 I said, a man, I'd I'd love a piece of you, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.480 like to play you one on one. I mean, I'm 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.800 just joking. We're during a commercial break. I'm Phil Jackson 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.760 sitting there. He goes, stand up, so I have my 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.840 suit and tie on. I put the microphone down. Phil 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.600 Jackson's there waiting for us to come back from commercial break? 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.120 How the bleep would you guard me? So I got 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:47.640 my suit and tie on. He's covered in champagne, and 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.400 I put my forearm in his back and he'd go 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.080 and he'd just tore into me. He goes, I would bleep, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.280 de bleep, de bleep, de bleep, de bleep, de bleep. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.040 And then he walked out the door. And then I 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.960 go over and I sit down, and Phil Jackson there 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.120 and he's looking at me, goes see what I dealt with? 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:10.880 And I was like, oh my god, we come out 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.760 of commercial break and Phil Jackson joining us. Now. Meanwhile, Mike, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.960 Mike left a lasting imprint on me that man, you 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.920 turn it on, boom, it's off. We just won. I 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.520 think his career is over. And I'm just in a 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:29.160 passing comment stand up and I went, how the bleep 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.520 would you guard me? Put a forearm right here in 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:33.360 your mo like this. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.680 I think, Yes, Marv, did you think to yourself, Wow, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:39.520 this guy's a psycho? 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.760 No? But I understood it. You know, I don't think 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.720 he was going to suffer fools like oh yeah, you 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.120 know you maybe you could have gotten your shot off 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.880 against me or something like that. But I was just 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.840 kind of joking because I didn't know if that was 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.080 his last game, but it was my way of asking 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.120 that by saying, it's a shame you're going to retire. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.800 I'd like a piece of you. What stand up? How 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.359 would you bleep and guard me? And I did the 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.679 forearm bar. Yes, Ma, he was retired. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.480 Chicago Bulls rookie was talking, you know, smack about him. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.480 He came to the practice facility and played him one 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.520 on one. There's a video on YouTube and he's like, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.119 look at all these banners around you, it's because of me. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.040 I was like, this dude's sitting on a golf course 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.520 and comes back and plays one on one pick up 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:28.560 with some unknown rookie. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.600 I would like to, you know, do a shooting contest 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.480 with Michael and bad Larry. Well Bad Larry our gambling podcast, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.399 said that he could take Michael Jordan if they shot 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.280 fouline jumpers for one thousand dollars free shot, and Bad 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.040 Larry said he'd beat Michael Jordan. He goes, hey, he 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.800 wasn't that good a shooter. I said he was guarded 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.919 by some of the greatest athletes on the planet and 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.720 he shot forty nine percent. And eighty three from the line, like, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:56.840 what are you talking about? 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:56.920 That? 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.760 But I would like to, you know, a shot at 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.400 Mike Todd. Would you see if Michael Jordan he didn't 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.919 even have to do an interview. I'll just meet him 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.360 someplace and we'll shoot jumpers reasonable request, you know, foul 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.320 line jumpers and how about one thousand dollars? 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.640 We'll shoot fifteen of them? Yeah, I want to play 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.520 a quick game. Do we even get a response to 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.720 this email? No, we don't, not even Todd. No, no, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.240 but no, you. 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.080 Know what, you can't do it because I don't think 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.760 they have a sense of humor when we do these 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.280 things with Michael Jordan his people. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:29.840 We don't want to hurt our chance to get on 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.879 the show, you know, you know I do that at 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:32.480 this juncture. 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.280 Yeah, we have no shot to get a low shot 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:37.520 to get him. Not no shot. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.000 Yes, Pum, I do have something for you on the 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:41.320 Michael Jordan situation. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:42.280 What do you mean? 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.520 I think I mentioned this to you, but I'll save. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.439 It, okay until after the commercial break? 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