00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: To surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 4: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wine girl. We're in the backyard, the sun is out. What's happening. I got a haircut the morning. I don't even know if it was time to get a haircut yet, but a couple of days ago I started wondering if I should get a haircut. Then yesterday I realized that I wasn't going to stop thinking about getting a haircut until I got one, So I pulled the trigger. I don't know. I probably could have gone a couple more weeks, but I couldn't live with that kind of floating over me. And I feel better. I feel free, and I need to be free. I need to be ready for today's podcast because I love our guest. It's Betsy Sidaro. Betsy Ah. Welcome to. I said, no, guess, I'm glad you got the haircut. Thank you so much. 00:01:34 Speaker 3: Like I know that feeling of like it's gonna just stick with me until I just do this thing. 00:01:40 Speaker 4: It haunts you, Yes, every time you see yourself in a mirror, you're questioning it. 00:01:45 Speaker 3: And you feel it like just a little bit more than usual, Like I gotta get this cut. 00:01:50 Speaker 2: Man. 00:01:51 Speaker 4: Are you getting a haircut every couple of months? 00:01:57 Speaker 3: Okay? If even like recently I've and I was shooting something where I wasn't allowed to cut it, so that felt kind of nuts. 00:02:04 Speaker 4: And truly it didn't get crazy long, right, You have to kind of a mid length hair, yeah, so like you can go a little inch further, no one's gonna notice it's curly, Like, yeah, it could be messy, and it's still the same thing, you know. And so when you were shooting this thing, how long did you go fully without cutting your hair? 00:02:23 Speaker 3: Probably like August to December. Oh that's a piece. 00:02:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, big chunk of time, big chunk of time. 00:02:33 Speaker 3: I cut it in December and I had to go back at January for this thing, and they're like, you cut your hair, hunt And I was like, how could you tell? And they're like, don't worry, it doesn't mess anything up. But we know the hair the hairdressers, And I was like, I'm so sorry. They're like, no, truly, it's not big deal, but we know you. 00:02:53 Speaker 4: I hope that there'll be on IMDb people just freaking out huge gas. 00:02:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is crazy. How could because it's it's for ghosts, so it is like, you're not I cannot change my appearance because I'm a ghost. 00:03:10 Speaker 4: Does it ghost ever get a haircut? That is a good question. Is that available in the afterlife? From everything I know, which is not a lot, it seems like no, you kind of you're stuck with whatever you're buried in. I think so I don't know, or like whatever you die in, maybe I don't know how that works. That's a good question about like between the dying and then being buried. Some people die and that's you know, they get buried in whatever, right, I mean, their killer buries them in their clothes. But if you die another way, you have your outfit there. Then you get the outfit that your family gets out or whatever, and you're in the coffin, right. So that's something we need to explore further. We've got to get into that. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: Do you ever think about I think about this a lot when I'm watching a show or a movie where people are like, Okay, we have to go battle whatever it might be. Like, uh, I was thinking of this with Stranger Things when they like get ready to go fight the demo Gorgon? Is that what I called? And like, do you ever wonder, like what would I wear if I was getting ready to go, Like I feel, I'd be like, I have to wear my favorite pants, my favorite sweatshirt, Like I feel I would be like I have to wear something that I look cooler if I die. 00:04:26 Speaker 4: Think about the pressure of that. I mean I do think about that. I like, if I ever go missing, I want to be in a good outfit, right, I mean, you're gonna be all over the news. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: You're gonna be all over the news, and they're gonna be like last scene wearing like yeah, you gotta be you gotta be looking good. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to rescue workers saying you look like shit. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: You know we're not Actually we're not looking that hard because from the description they look like shit, So we don't want to rescue them. 00:04:53 Speaker 4: And if you're going to fight a demon or some other worldly thing, the pressure there, the pressure crushing. I have a hard time dressing in the morning. 00:05:01 Speaker 3: I mean, nothing me too truly to get up and move to like the couch or my office. I'm like, what am I gonna look like today? I better look cool man. 00:05:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll know full well I'm not going to see another person all day, and I'm still I'm trying on a couple of different shirts. Yeah, I've got to like Mooter you in like it sets that whole thing. Yes, yes, I mean what like your normal morning when you're choosing something to wear, do you have like a uniform? 00:05:30 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, it's truly like you see these pants somewhere. They're just like nice Kaki khakis from Jake Crew. I have like twenty pairs of these, you do, Because I truly, once I find like something I like and that fits pretty good, I'm like, I better get a million before they stop making them, because they always do. 00:05:50 Speaker 4: It's such a good I mean, and I do the opposite where I just I'll buy one thing, yeah, and then years later they're not producing it anymore, and then I'm going all over the web. So it happened to me too many times and it's devastating. 00:06:03 Speaker 3: So now I truly am like, I like this thing, I'm going to buy twenty of it and do. 00:06:08 Speaker 4: You stock up in the moment or do you take it the one pair of pants home and then you're like, I love it, And then. 00:06:12 Speaker 3: You're usually like one pair of pants and then truly like I wear them one time, I'm like, I gotta get like five more pairs. I gotta just get five more pairs just in case, because they rule, So I'll like do that. And then T shirt. 00:06:26 Speaker 4: You've got a T shirt under and. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: That's kind of my whole setup. It's a great little shirt, these pants in the sweatshirt. 00:06:35 Speaker 4: It's a very casual, good looking, snappy, thank you. 00:06:39 Speaker 3: I like it. 00:06:39 Speaker 4: Do you have a uniform? Like, are you? 00:06:41 Speaker 3: No? 00:06:41 Speaker 4: I okay, to dial it back a little. I have so many shirts. I'm only wearing maybe ten of them. The rest are just there to get in the way of and to like give me the illusion of choice. Yes, I think a lot of those just need to be put in storage or something. Yeah, and I just use the same ten shirts until they're gone. Yeah, I don't know. It takes up so much of my energy in the morning trying to decide, and no one cares. Absolutely, she really gives a shit. 00:07:09 Speaker 3: Who am I I don't care what people are wary, right, why do I care what I wearing? 00:07:15 Speaker 4: Like? 00:07:15 Speaker 3: Who cares? I will say, though, it is easy when you're like, okay, I only have these pads. Oh to pick from sounds incredible, So I'll pick a pair. 00:07:24 Speaker 4: Well, do you ever worry about the pants going out of style? 00:07:28 Speaker 3: You know what? No, not anymore. I'm kind of over. I've never believe it or not. I've never been one for being into fashion. 00:07:36 Speaker 4: But you are so snappily dressed. You look very hippy. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: You think I do? Yes? Cool? Oh my god, it's like so nice. Nobody's ever told me that before. Well, thank you. I just I feel though it's a pretty classic, safe style, Like I plan on wearing this till I'm like a hundred days. 00:07:59 Speaker 4: You know, and then you'll start thinking about her news. 00:08:02 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll get it to a new look. I don't, but I don't work like because now it feels like the two thousands are back for fashion, and I didn't like it then. 00:08:12 Speaker 4: I don't like it now that look the early two like late nineties, early two thousand. Look, I really thought we had all learned our lesson. I thought we'd all been like this is we like, this is awful. 00:08:23 Speaker 3: Right, I'm rewatching, not rewatching. I'm watching for the first time Buffy the Vampires. Oh, and the fashion is really funny. But then you see like red carpets and ship Now it's like they're wearing what Buffy ward of a prom and that's awful looking. 00:08:42 Speaker 4: There's a lot of you know, like wide leg pants coming back, very wide leg that for me, I don't know that I can ever cross back across that bridge. I was there, I refuse, I was traumatized. I need my I need my pants hugging my leg I need to be able to see the shape of body in some way. 00:09:01 Speaker 3: In some way not to wear it's like, oh god, everything, but like to be like, oh okay, yep, there are your legs. You're not wearing boots, so you don't need a boot cut bad boot cut? 00:09:15 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, as you become an adult, like how much should I be worrying about this? I'm not a child, I'm not a teen. Who am I trying to be cool for? 00:09:26 Speaker 3: Right? I also feel like I just within the last like six or seven years, have started figuring out how I like clothes to fit me, and how to find clothes that fit me. 00:09:37 Speaker 4: You know, it's nearly impossible. 00:09:39 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 00:09:40 Speaker 4: I started doing, like getting stuff tailored. Oh, I need to get over to a tailor. 00:09:45 Speaker 3: I feel so fancy, even if it's just like, just make these pants not long, like, just so that I can wear them without them touching the floor. 00:09:53 Speaker 4: Please, Like, I feel so fancy. Of course you're getting a pair of the clothes are now just for you, Yeah, rather than wherever you bought a target or what have you. Whatever target tells you your body size. 00:10:04 Speaker 3: Is, it's a target. How dare you? 00:10:08 Speaker 4: What did you listen to on your way over here? 00:10:11 Speaker 3: I was listening to the what's it called wild Thing? The Sigfree and Roy. 00:10:18 Speaker 4: Oh, the podcast about what about the attack? Oh, it's simply about the attack? Yeah, wild Things? How many episodes? Isn't eight episodes? How much do they have to get into about the attack? It's a lot. It's good. 00:10:32 Speaker 3: Trust me, you won every episode. You want every because you like learn of course the history of everything. Oh, okay of Sigfree and Roy. Oh, it's it's really good. It's really underting. It's sad because I'm in the last episode where they're telling you everything that happened that night, where it was like my stomach was even like, dude, is it tense? Oh? 00:10:55 Speaker 4: To be a spectator in that audience wild. 00:10:58 Speaker 3: They interview one woman who's like, I didn't know what was going on, but I knew it wasn't part of the show. She's like, I saw Roy like hit the tiger a mic oh as the tiger was like on top of him, and then they like pulled the curtains and made sure nobody from the audience. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: Oh wow, who was running the curtains that night? The pressure would be like, I think it is time. It's fine. 00:11:24 Speaker 3: Oh God, after thousands of shows. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: They're gonna be glad they hired me. Have you ever interacted with like a big cat or big animal like that? 00:11:36 Speaker 3: You know? I was actually on Oh this feels so wild. I was on a TV show called Animal Practice. Okay ten years ago. I remember seeing Yeah, and in the pilot, I think there was a big tiger in a case. Oh and it was crazy and it like sprayed piss everywhere, and it was like, yeah, this is crazy, like to have a big like where everybody's like, what's that smell? Like the trainer was like, oh, yeah, he sprayed as you'rine everywhere because he's uncomfortable. He's like, yeah, yeah, he's gotta be sprayed, pissed everything. 00:12:15 Speaker 4: I came in afterwards. 00:12:17 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, everybody's like, heiss everywhere. Okay, man, Wow, So that was I think the biggest animal that was on the show that. 00:12:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that I've ever been around big, big animals like that. I'm trying to think of the biggest I've been around, and it was probably a horse. Yeah, I guess a horse. But a horse is kind of a car. Yeah, you know, it's more of a motorcycle or something. I mean, not to the dude. Horses are gonna pissed that. 00:12:44 Speaker 3: You should think I need to reach out to the horse. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: We're getting a lot of nig Oh, no, I'll leave, get out of here. We'll see her to the door. No, I guess I've seen a horse. And then beyond that, I would like to get close to a tiger or a lion at some point. 00:13:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I would. 00:13:11 Speaker 4: I would love to put a bear. Oh. 00:13:13 Speaker 3: You know, I grew up in Colorado in the mountains and we would get bears in the summer. 00:13:20 Speaker 4: Would you see them? 00:13:21 Speaker 3: Yes, So, like my dog would wake me up because he, of course would be losing his minds because they would be like digging through our tracks. Oh and it was always like a mama in two cubs, and so I would then wait, I would go and wake up my mom because she was like, whenever there's a bear, wake me up. 00:13:36 Speaker 4: And we would just like sit, sit and watch them. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:13:40 Speaker 4: What kind of bears were they? 00:13:42 Speaker 3: I think they were brown bears. I think I think they were because they weren't. I mean, they of course were big, but weren't likely bear. But and it was very much like we could knock on the window and they would run away. Oh no, they were very aware of human. 00:14:01 Speaker 4: But it was cute. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: It was always cute. 00:14:03 Speaker 4: Where were you living in Colorado? This was Breckinridge, Okay, yeah, so kind of mountainey. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, big ski place, right. 00:14:11 Speaker 4: And now let me ask you. You say Colorado, Yeah, but do most people in Colorado say Colorado? 00:14:18 Speaker 3: Colorado? Colorado. 00:14:20 Speaker 4: This is something that's been on my mind for the last twenty years. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it had You should google it. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: I mean I wonder if because you lived in Breconridge, which I think is like, you know, it's in the mountains, a little removed from the Denver suburb. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: Area. 00:14:36 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't know. 00:14:38 Speaker 3: I get some of my friends used to live there. 00:14:41 Speaker 4: But it's hard to ask people because the moment you say it, they're thinking about how they're saying yeah, and they're second guessing how they pronounce it. 00:14:48 Speaker 3: I used to have a shirt that said coloradical. Oh I mean that Colorado? Yeah, that's I mean, you don't say radical. You never say radical. If you say radical, you're an alien. And your fam we found out you're an alien. Chronical, dudes, we got you, you alien. Whoa Colorado is rad? 00:15:11 Speaker 4: It's rad. It's colorful. We know it's colorful from the license play colorful Colorado. Oh yeah, I guess it's the signs say that. 00:15:17 Speaker 3: But the signs are brown and white. I know, throw those brown and then white letters. Is like, to make it, make it colorful. 00:15:26 Speaker 4: Well, they don't want to pull focus from nation, you know, They're like, well, we're just here to announce. Okay, we're here to announce. Maybe pull the curtains if needed. Yeah, have you seen I was just looking at this this morning, The etiquette guide that I think the New maybe New York. Yeah, yeah, you read. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: It, Yes, I think I read all of it and there was some things where I was like. 00:15:49 Speaker 4: No, can you remember any of the thing. 00:15:52 Speaker 3: One was and I think it was for parenting, like if it was about gifts, like if a birthday part party, on the invitation it says no gifts, Oh you should always like then bring a gift. 00:16:05 Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't think so. I don't think so. 00:16:08 Speaker 3: Other like that's there were just a few where it was like I don't. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: I don't think so because I also do them. So I'm like, no, that can't be rude. Behave like to set the gift thing out as a hard fast rule of like absolutely bring a gift makes I think you like, think about the people throwing the party, think about there are other things you need to consider other than what it says on the invitation, certainly, and it was under. 00:16:34 Speaker 3: Like parentinge, right, And so I think it was for like a kid's party. And I remember, like I've had multiple friends who have kids, be like you don't need to bring us anything, or like if anything diapers, like the kid does not need anything else. 00:16:48 Speaker 4: Right, another cute T shirt or whatever. We's got plenty for this three month old baby. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, were there. 00:16:54 Speaker 4: Any that stuck out to you because there's Yeah, there is one that stuck out to me, and I was really annoyed by it. It was splitting the bill. It said, when you eat out, you should always split the bill evenly, and I for the most part agree with that, but I think you need to take into account if somebody is really going for it with their order, that person should be responsible. Yes, we all know how ordering and paying and health costs add up. Yep. If I'm like, if I go to dinner and I order nine Entreys, I'm not gonna be like everybody, we're splitting the bill, split the bill, any of them, but we're splitting the bill. I mean, I think you should be aware of it when everybody kind of orders the same thing and maybe someone orders something that slightly more, who gets shit right? And also I think it's on the other person. I think the person who's going crazy ordering needs to They shouldn't be called out. 00:17:45 Speaker 3: No, that's the one. I think they need to be Like, Hey, and I like lost my mind getting nine on tres. Let me pay for those and you guys pay for whatever you need. 00:17:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, Yes, weirded me out too. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: Because yeah, well, because I feel bad if I get like a martini or something and a friend where it's like it's like. 00:18:05 Speaker 4: Twenty bucks, Yeah that's expensive, yeah with drinking. And then I do think on the list it was like the next one was like if you if people are drinking, they should offer to pay the tip, which makes a little bit of sense, but if they order nine martinis, again, that's way more than the tip. I shouldn't have to point out that you've drink a lot of martinis and you walk exactly passed out. 00:18:24 Speaker 3: Of the boot drunk mad at you and be like were you saying I got an issue or something? 00:18:28 Speaker 4: I'm not driving you home? 00:18:29 Speaker 3: No, come on? 00:18:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, I think that was the one, really the only one that I was like, this doesn't work for me. Yeah, we need to We should be shaming the other side of the eating out rather than the people who are getting robbed blind, right. But I mean it was like a list of one hundred and fifty things. 00:18:47 Speaker 3: It was a lot. It was, it was a lot, but I. 00:18:50 Speaker 4: Kind of glazed over the parent thing. I was like, this is this will never happen for me. 00:18:53 Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not I'm. 00:18:54 Speaker 4: Not ever worrying about that shit. Man, I don't care. But yeah, for the most part. I guess I'm on board with modern etiquette outside of the one thing might make a scene at dinner. But what are we gonna do? I mean, I'm just putting that out. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: Win it all, okay, you can't win everything you can New York or whatever. You whoever published. 00:19:16 Speaker 4: That, I think it was a New York magazine could be wrong. It was one of New York many New York's many beautiful publications. I think it was the Empire's Date building. It was the Empire Gazette. Yes, the pilot issue of the Empire Gazette. They just got out. 00:19:35 Speaker 3: We're hoping to get picked up and we share it. 00:19:40 Speaker 4: We got a green light on our newspaper. I mean, I mean, And I didn't bring this up just for a segue. I really didn't. I really wrought it up more because I wanted to complain about paying it dinner. Yeah, and the gifts thing that you brought up was I mean, it does feel like a gorgeous segue to me calling you out enormous way. I'm furious. I'm pissed the podcast is called. I said, no gifts. I was thrilled you were coming. I was I've been anticipating it. I thought, Betsy's so funny. We're going to have the time of our lives. No hurt feelings, right, no discomfort, just simply two friends sitting in the backyard chatting it up. So we're recording this at one o'clock. About one o'clock. I mean, you did show up right on time. Yeah, that was nice, But then that was immediately canceled out by you holding what's obviously nothing is ever looked more like a gift than this. 00:20:40 Speaker 3: It's such a gift. It looks like such a gift. 00:20:44 Speaker 4: It's a grocery bag folded and a half. 00:20:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't look like I'm going to the grocery store to reuse a bag. Well, I mean, yeah, you got really mad at me. You kicked me in the shit. 00:20:58 Speaker 4: Several times, fell to the ground, and I walked up into that yard and said to see you soon, ses. 00:21:06 Speaker 3: I did, I brought you a gift? 00:21:08 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll should I open it here on the podcast? I think, so, okay, I think you're gonna love it. Well, I hope. So now you've over hyped it. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: This could be extreme, one of the coolest thing you've ever seen your whole life. Nothing will ever be better. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: As I said, it's in kind of a grocery bag and we're gonna open it up here. 00:21:47 Speaker 3: I need you to know. 00:21:48 Speaker 4: This is how I give people gifts. 00:21:50 Speaker 3: Ways. I'm like, here's a bag. 00:21:52 Speaker 4: We all have these under our sinks. 00:21:53 Speaker 3: Just throw it in a bag. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: Okay, Oh my god? What is this? It's a DVD for movie Midnight Marathon Pack Demons. 00:22:03 Speaker 3: Demons, the demon themed movies. 00:22:06 Speaker 4: Have I seen any of them? No? 00:22:10 Speaker 3: I don't think I have. 00:22:11 Speaker 4: I've heard of one of this really, which one devil? Devil Devil I think came out in maybe like twenty eleven twenty twelve about people getting caught in an elevator and because of the devil it must be is running the elevator or something. 00:22:26 Speaker 3: That sounds good. 00:22:27 Speaker 4: Can I have a bag? 00:22:28 Speaker 2: No? 00:22:29 Speaker 4: I'm sorry twice, dang it. Yeah, Devil's here, it's got the elevator there. Then we've got Longtime Dead. Never heard of it, Never heard of that, House of Voices, never. 00:22:40 Speaker 3: Heard heard of that. And Whisper. 00:22:43 Speaker 4: That's a nice name for a movie that doesn't even have to be about demons. That's kind of wasted. That could have been a nice movie. 00:22:48 Speaker 3: I bet there's a nice movie called Whisper Well, you know, kind of. 00:22:53 Speaker 4: A romantic movie. Okay, tell me why you brought this. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: I you know, I thought it would be fun. I love horror movies. 00:23:01 Speaker 4: What's your favorite horror movie of all? Okay, I got two O The Thing. The Thing of course unreal, so good and a nice different setting for a horror movie. Yes, yes, Antarctica, it's not just a house. Well, I do love a haunted house. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: Let's all. 00:23:20 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:23:20 Speaker 4: And Killer Clowns from outer Space? Oh, terrific. Kind of bordering though, I mean it's such a it's yes, it's such a funny great yes, cult classic. Yeah, it's like I would say it's a cult classic. It almost feels like an intentionally cult classic. I mean it's it's a movie about clowns coming from outer space and kind of cocooning people in cotton candy. It's like when I. 00:23:48 Speaker 3: Used to teach improv, I would be like, everybody, go watch Killer Clowns from Outer Space because it's the perfect example of if this, then what else? And blowing out a world because it is like, of course, popcorn shoots out of their guns and chases after you and is evil of course they put a like they make a balloon animal dog to hunt you down. 00:24:12 Speaker 4: Like it's it's such a great it really stays on theme. It really does incredible. 00:24:16 Speaker 3: They they play killer clowns around the space game so hard, and. 00:24:22 Speaker 4: How do they end up defeating the clowns? 00:24:25 Speaker 3: So they learned that if you shoot, if you hit the clowns nose knows they die. 00:24:30 Speaker 4: Oh that makes sense. 00:24:32 Speaker 3: And then there's a giant clown clown Zilla at the end and they hit the clown's nose and then it sucks everything up. Everything's fine, and everything's fine. Were you ever scared of clowns? Yes? 00:24:48 Speaker 4: Yes, I still like I don't need to be around a clown ever. You know, I've never been afraid of clowns. Really, I feel like there are three categories of people. People who are like you, genuinely afraid of clowns. People like me who whatever the careless I mean, if one's holding a knife or weapon, sure, even if. 00:25:08 Speaker 3: They aren't there, aren't they awful looking to you? Really? Really? 00:25:12 Speaker 4: Who cares? 00:25:13 Speaker 3: If a clown was standing right there watching us, you'd be fine. 00:25:17 Speaker 4: If there was any any person standing there that wasn't invited watching us I would be afraid. 00:25:22 Speaker 3: I don't care what they're. 00:25:25 Speaker 4: Non Uh okay, these are all nasty. Example, Halloween costumes. What's not a Halloween costume? A janitor, a janetor yeah, the janitor standing there, that would be creepy. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: That would be creepy. 00:25:40 Speaker 4: I mean, they would be an intruder in my yard. And they're watching silently. 00:25:43 Speaker 3: Had you get the bucket up here? 00:25:47 Speaker 4: What are you doing with that? 00:25:47 Speaker 3: Mop? 00:25:48 Speaker 4: This is mop the concrete, sir, Come on, yeah, I don't I don't find them. Oh that's scary. And then I think there's this other category of people who say they're afraid of clowns, and it's more of a thing too, And I think this has actually gone away a little bit. I think it was more of like a nineties, early thousands thing. And now do you know what I think it is is people saying they're scared of CGI. They'll say, like a CGI animal looks scary. That's sort of like Sonic the hedgehog scares me or that kind of thing. 00:26:22 Speaker 3: That's the new clowns. Whoa, I don't. 00:26:26 Speaker 4: Whoa I'm calling it now, yeah, clown And now I actually think that's good to take some pressure off of clowns. People who are actually afraid of them can do that in peace, right, their culture is no longer being appropriated, and then people like me don't have to hear it. 00:26:43 Speaker 3: You don't ever have to hear it. 00:26:44 Speaker 4: You don't have to hear it. 00:26:46 Speaker 3: That's I'm thinking of the like CGI, because there are moments where you're like, ooh, that's awful. 00:26:54 Speaker 4: Look sure, I mean it looks like garbage where it's like, oh, that's bizarre. But I'm not like, oh no, now I can't go to bed at night. Oh true, Very true. I'm gonna be careful when I'm opening the clause that they're walking down an alleyway very true. 00:27:06 Speaker 3: These are I mean, if I saw Sonic, the Hedgehog and the Let in an alley, I'd be like, Okay, what's that, dude? Give me some Mario. Huh. 00:27:18 Speaker 4: I mean that again? Well, actually, I kind of I'm on the same page. I don't think I would ever feel threatened by, you know, a cartoon animal even in real life. But the thing clowns have an edge on is at least some of those exist in reality? I know, But doesn't that like creep you out? What did they exist? 00:27:37 Speaker 3: Yes, they like there's these people that are like I want to put on an awful makeup and then just go in front of people and like do things. 00:27:51 Speaker 4: Just basically describing actors. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: I know, as I was saying, I was like, oh god, that's what I do like every night. There's no megup, just kind of like, hey guys, you made me dumb. Okay, here we go. 00:28:02 Speaker 2: No. 00:28:02 Speaker 4: I don't find it scary at all, but maybe maybe it's like an early childhood thing where like a clown scares sho. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: At some point. 00:28:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Okay who introduced you to Killer Clowns from outter Space? Do you remember friends in college? Okay? 00:28:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like we think you're gonna love this movie. And I remember watching me like, uh, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. 00:28:24 Speaker 4: How I've not seen it before? 00:28:26 Speaker 3: Like, and a bunch of friends now out here were like, oh I watched it on HBO all the time, and. 00:28:34 Speaker 4: I never real HBO movie an. 00:28:36 Speaker 3: It where it would just play all the time. 00:28:39 Speaker 4: Cheap programming. Yeah, kind of, but like you turn on the TV and you're like, what is this? Yeah it's an hour and a half later. Yeah, that makes sense to me totally. Now the thing. When was the first time you saw the thing? 00:28:52 Speaker 3: I think. 00:28:54 Speaker 4: When I first moved here. 00:28:58 Speaker 3: I think that was the first time I saw so, like two thousand and eight or so eight or nine, and I remember. 00:29:04 Speaker 4: Being blown away and were you scared? Yes, it's a pretty scary movie, I would say, yeah, like the dog part, oh rough rough, Oh god, absolutely, Okay. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: I thought you did in like the coolest, calmest way. Whoa nice. 00:29:24 Speaker 4: I'm absolutely mortific. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: Okay, now you get out of it. 00:29:28 Speaker 4: This is the final episode. I'm listeners over. We had run no, I mean, yeah, that's a but then we've got Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell gorgeous man, unbelievably hunky. It's still hunky. 00:29:45 Speaker 3: Like now that he's in that He's Santa in those Netflix movies. 00:29:49 Speaker 4: Wait, he's Santa in a Netflix movie. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of them, Like I think it's Santa Chronicles or something where he like drives a Mustang instead of a sled or something. Does a busting fly in that movie? It does? 00:30:04 Speaker 4: And then the reindeer are just worthless. I can't remember what happened to the rain deer. I can't remember. Wow, that's easily the best looking Santa Claus it's ever existed. 00:30:14 Speaker 3: Unbelievably hot. 00:30:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like he was good looking in his younger years and he's just aged into it. Yeah. 00:30:21 Speaker 3: There's really great commentary on like the blu ray of the thing where it's him and John Carpenter just watching and just having a blast, like just crying, laughing to. 00:30:34 Speaker 4: The whole thing and be like you remember this. 00:30:36 Speaker 3: It's delightful. 00:30:38 Speaker 4: John Carpenter seems like a good guy. He seems so rad and he's like a musician. He does it all. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: I've seen him a couple of times at the Palladium on Halloween no Way, playing with his band and his son is in the band, and they like now compose a bunch of music together and stuff. 00:30:54 Speaker 4: And it's all instrumental. Yes, he's not singing. No, it'd be an interesting term for John Carpenter singer songwriter John Carter. 00:31:04 Speaker 3: Guitar. 00:31:05 Speaker 4: It's spooky socks singing spooky songs with an acoustic guitar. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: No. 00:31:11 Speaker 4: I mean, but didn't he do the Halloween song? Yeah? Classic? Yeah, I mean we all love that. It's basically two notes, but he nailed us nail. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: It's so spooky. 00:31:22 Speaker 4: I think Halloween might be my favorite scary movie. 00:31:25 Speaker 3: That's it's a great one of the best. It's so good because I feel I only watch it like once a year. Of course, I try to kind of do that with all my like not killer Clowns, I'll watch that not out. 00:31:36 Speaker 4: That's all season movie. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like the thing and how I like want to only watch it once a year if even so that it's just so a surprise, right, even though I know everything that's gonna happen, you still are able to be like, oh, yeah, I knew that. I knew that. Oh it's yeah. Shining too, like wonderful. 00:32:01 Speaker 4: Always chill out with the shining so that I can like the shining for me is when I could That is for me a movie. I can watch it any season. I feel like I can watch that in the middle of the summer and it makes sense for some reason, I don't know why. Good. 00:32:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:32:15 Speaker 3: I watched it on a on a plane on a flight back to LA and it was a. 00:32:21 Speaker 4: Blast, like fascinating airplane. 00:32:24 Speaker 3: Isn't that wild? Isn't it Like I was like looking around and be like, no, little kids, right, because this could mess them up pretty good. But I had like noise canceling headphones on and I just blasted the sound and it was so fun and scary like a tiny screen. It was like, that's good. That's a good movie. Was the movie offered by the airline? Yes? Oh interesting. 00:32:50 Speaker 4: I was gonna say if you if it was on your iPad or something, right, Wow, the airline is just reaching out and say watch the Shining. 00:32:56 Speaker 3: Yeah please watch this. Wow. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: Okay, well I wouldn't mind watching The Shining on a plane. Yeah. 00:33:02 Speaker 3: It was kind of fun. 00:33:03 Speaker 4: It's a good length to half hours or something. 00:33:06 Speaker 3: Good chunk and it is like when you like hear it. I remember seeing it when arc Light used to be around. Oh, they would have like in October every Tuesday, they would have like classic horror movies and I remember seeing The Shining and it was like I've never heard it this way, like I've never heard the movie like this, and it was game changer. 00:33:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a TV at home or whatever. Do you dress up for Halloween? Yes, I've been a hot dog for the last like six years. 00:33:42 Speaker 3: And it rules. It's perfect. It's easy to put on, it's easy to take off. 00:33:47 Speaker 4: I was almost a hot dog last Halloween because I was not in the mood about every other year I'm in the mood for a costume. This year I was not in the mood. I eventually was pressured into going to a Halloween party. Okay, didn't want to just show up in my clothes. My friend lent me his. 00:34:02 Speaker 3: Hot dog costume. 00:34:04 Speaker 4: I didn't wear it. I still showed up in my clothes, and I think it might still be in my trunk. Whow waiting for next Halloway, there you go. But it's a great costume. Do you have the one where you just pull it on and now you're hot dog? 00:34:15 Speaker 3: Pull it on. It's got mustard and relish on it, and like grill marks, it rules. 00:34:21 Speaker 4: Well, your sound's way more involved. 00:34:23 Speaker 3: Is your's the like classic? Well, now ketchup and mustard on the classic one? Bency. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: Now that I'm thinking about it, I think the costume is a packet of ketchup or a ketchup bottle. If it's not a hot dog, simply was not. 00:34:38 Speaker 3: A hot dog? 00:34:39 Speaker 4: And some doing you put on hot dog? Yes, so there we go. Wow, I was picturing a hot dog in the trunk of my car. And now I've returned to reality. 00:34:50 Speaker 3: It's ketchup. How you feel it? 00:34:52 Speaker 4: I feel very disoriented. I feel a little sick. 00:34:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go figure some stuff out. Oh man, hot dog nor ketchup? 00:35:03 Speaker 4: Not hot dog ketchup. Do you remember your last costume before the hot dog came into your life? 00:35:11 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:35:12 Speaker 3: I think I was an elephant elephant? Oh did you make the costume? 00:35:17 Speaker 2: No? 00:35:18 Speaker 3: You know, I found it at like the Hollywood toy and costume you know where it's like once again, put on a head and then I think it had like fake hands and fake feet. 00:35:29 Speaker 4: That sounds like a is it gone from your life? 00:35:31 Speaker 3: It'd be a whole suit. No, I think it's I think I have it still. I know sounds a carrot outfit. Same thing. Just pop it on your carrot and you have a green like stock or like headband that has a leaf on it. 00:35:46 Speaker 4: I did. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: I was that for a long time. A lot of people were like, whoa along, pumpkin with a carott? 00:35:53 Speaker 4: Come on, the pumpkin costume only goes mid thigh. 00:35:56 Speaker 3: We all know that you've seen a pumpkin that looks like like this, show me it now you fucking weirdo. So but you do. 00:36:07 Speaker 4: Now, just have these other costumes going to waste? Do you use them for anything? 00:36:11 Speaker 2: No? 00:36:11 Speaker 3: I mean when I used to do sketch comedy, I was a carrot. Any time I could be a carot. 00:36:17 Speaker 4: Forcing a carrot into any sketch. Possibly catchy. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: You need a waiter, what if she's a carrot? 00:36:24 Speaker 4: But no, I yeah, I haven't. Yeah, it's been hot dog for it's. 00:36:31 Speaker 3: A good costume. 00:36:32 Speaker 4: I want to look at the back of this case and see if we can get any more details. There are no more details. There are no descriptions. We've got the ratings. The Devil is peachy thirteen and then we've got a triple R. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: All. 00:36:42 Speaker 4: The rest of these are radedar so you know they're scary. 00:36:45 Speaker 3: You know that they're scary. You might see boobies. You're guaranteed boobies. 00:36:50 Speaker 4: Uh, from what I can tell. Devil of course, trapped in an elevator that we for a long time dead. There's a man holding another man's hair, almost like he's throwing been a toilet. But I don't think that's what's happening. House of Voices is two people wandering through a spooky woods. Nasty I like and they've got a lantern, so maybe it's a period. 00:37:08 Speaker 3: It might be a period. Even a Whisper. 00:37:10 Speaker 4: Continues to tell us nothing about the film. It's just a woman standing there looking at the camera. 00:37:15 Speaker 3: From the the one on the front. The picture of the front of Whisper. It looks like it might be kind of an o miny looking looking, kind of nasty. 00:37:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the boy is gonna be scary. 00:37:31 Speaker 3: Yes, the boy's gonna be gross and have the devil inside of him. 00:37:37 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean I've got four movies to watch now, We've got Demon's Galore. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: Demon's Glore. 00:37:45 Speaker 4: Do you believe in any sort of supernatural things like that? 00:37:47 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:37:48 Speaker 4: I believe in it all you do. 00:37:50 Speaker 3: Well, I will say it all all that, Lady Saga. I struggle with the devil because I like try to get all of Catholicism out of my row raised Catholic and I don't like it one bit. And I'm like, I don't think so, man. But I do believe in like ghosts and spirits and malevolent things. Yeah. 00:38:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, Have you ever had an experience with one? 00:38:21 Speaker 3: You know? I had my first one last year in March. I was visiting my sister. I remember, because I was skien up in Keystone with my sister and her family, and we rented a little condo and I was sharing a room with my two nieces and and they had gone to bed, and me and my sister and brother in law we were like hanging out later and. 00:38:47 Speaker 4: Everything seemed chill, you know, And at one point, this like this kind of humming came on, and my sister like made the remark like, oh God, I'm not gonna be able to sleep if I hear this. It is so annoying. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: And me and my brother in law like, what are you talking about? I like had to find it and then be like, oh, okay. So they go to bed, and there are two bathrooms, one kind of towards like the front entrance, and then one in the hall, and so my sister and brother in law were using the one in the hall, and I was like, I'll use the one in the front, and I went into the room where my nieces were sleeping, and when I was in there, I heard like a oh in the living room area. And it's a very small little condo, so it's kind of like so I was like, oh, it must be my brother in law because it sounded just like him, like, but it was coming from the living room. So I was like, okay, he must be up like getting water or something whatever. And so I like got my toiletries and came out and it's pitch black. Oh nobody's there. And I was like, oh what And I like look and I think like somebody was in that bathroom, and then the door was closed and I was like, okay, okay, I'm not hearing it, like and I like kind of look around and I hear again, like and it doesn't sound like that humming we had heard or anything that a house would make. And so I like like scattered like fucking scooch into the bathroom, like kind of starting to shake. I was like, oh my god, I'm and kind of excited, like, oh shit, I think this is a an experience. I think this is a ghost because like how my body was reacting and stuff was just like fly get out of there, like get out. So I'm like brushing my teeth. 00:40:28 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, Oh my god, you're brushing your teeth while you think a ghosts. 00:40:32 Speaker 3: I get ready for bed, and I'm like and I couldn't like what am I supposed to do like scream and wake up my nieces. 00:40:37 Speaker 4: But You're like there's a fucking ghost. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Get up, praised. And so I'm like in there and finish, brush, finish, getting ready for bed, and I'm like, okay, I gotta go out there, like I now have to walk back through the living room where I've been hearing this breath coming from and get to the bedroom with my nieces where I'm going to stay. And and uh, I like came out and as I'm leaving out here, and I like fucking stop and I'm like, oh my god. 00:41:08 Speaker 4: And I'm like staring into the dark, just being like. 00:41:10 Speaker 3: What the what the fuck? What the fuck? And then I hear and then I fucking bolt into the little room and I'm like, oh my god, and I like everybody's like my nieces are asleep, and I'm like, oh my god, and they have to sleep with the door open, and I was like, oh god, I want to see a fucking like a big tall shadow man walking through and like I was freaking out. I was like shaking and like with like made sure to not look at the door. 00:41:40 Speaker 4: And I was like, I think I had an experience. So you lost me when you said you had a ghost story that took place in a condo. I don't think that. 00:41:52 Speaker 3: There are tons of ghosts and condosa. If I said in an apartment, an. 00:41:57 Speaker 4: Apartment, I could kind of get into it. But I need to know the age of the apartment. I need to picture like a decaying built. 00:42:03 Speaker 3: All of these condos were built in like the eighties. 00:42:06 Speaker 4: I think too recent. 00:42:07 Speaker 3: I mean, oh wait, there's no such thing as too recent. I'm telling you. I'm telling you there's no such thing. There's no such thing there. 00:42:14 Speaker 4: A ghost has never never been in a condo. 00:42:17 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 00:42:19 Speaker 4: They just haven't sold. Wait is that about a condo. 00:42:23 Speaker 3: It's in a high rise and they you know, they own it. You know they own it. You know they own it. 00:42:28 Speaker 4: They're not renting it. We don't know their financial situation. They could be hiding a lot from us. 00:42:34 Speaker 3: Shit fair enough. 00:42:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably in severe debt and they have this beautiful Oh okay, they're not calling that a condo. Ghosts can hold a house, a man or a mansion, an apartment, depending on the age, a shack, a cottage. 00:42:53 Speaker 3: Did they got it? 00:42:54 Speaker 4: You play mash condo never comes in play. 00:43:00 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, I'm telling you something was up because my body reacted like it had never reacted before. 00:43:07 Speaker 4: Did you have a chill? 00:43:08 Speaker 3: Yes, like, like, I truly have never felt what I felt that night, where it was like it feels like another thing is here and it's not my brother in law, like that is not him sighing or whatever it was? 00:43:23 Speaker 2: Why? 00:43:24 Speaker 4: I mean, the ghost sounded so over it until you scared the ghost, until I scared the ghost. 00:43:29 Speaker 3: Interesting? 00:43:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's quite an experience. Yeah, sure, you have to be open to it. 00:43:34 Speaker 3: Right. Have you ever had anything unexplainable or just kind of like, have you seen anything we were like? What was that? 00:43:42 Speaker 4: The only I don't really buy into any of this, and this story is not that exciting or interesting, but yes, turn it up, everybody. And I don't even want to classify it as scary because it's almost sweet. 00:43:55 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:43:56 Speaker 4: Great Grandma, my great grandma would always uh cut up greeting cards as puzzles, yes, to give to us for our birthdays, and she would write on them life is a puzzle, and so am I. And she passed away maybe fifteen years ago or somebody while I was living in La maybe twenty eleven twenty twelve. I was walking to work one day. Halfway through the walk, I heard in my head, life is a puzzle, and so am I get to work, go to work, blah blah blah, go home, give my mam a call, and she says, it's great grandma's birthday. Dude, fascinating something something's up. I mean, I could explain the logical explanation is I remember her birthday and I had forgotten it in my contract. But even that's like cool, man, it's a nice little thing my brain did for me. Like the brain is nuts. 00:44:49 Speaker 3: We can all agree on that, Like the brain does wild. 00:44:53 Speaker 4: Scientist why everything? Yeah, the brain is nuts, ask any neurology. 00:45:00 Speaker 3: Yeah it's nutty. 00:45:01 Speaker 2: Man. 00:45:01 Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It is like because a lot of stuff. Even you could be like, oh, I'm maybe I was just like truly hearing like like something and maybe my I don't know. 00:45:18 Speaker 4: But it's more fundable this ghost that had a bad day. 00:45:22 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was just like maybe when Skien and like hurt their back or something, there's like, oh I can't do it like I used to. 00:45:31 Speaker 4: Okay, now it's strapped to a condo where it should not be. Oh, I think we should play a game. Okay, let's play. We're gonna play a game called Gift Master. I need a number between one and ten for me. Oh, and I say it, you say it to me, to you, to me, and then I'll use it for my own purpose. Okay, four, Okay, I have to do some light calculating with this number. Who right now, you have the Micay, do whatever you want. You can recommend, promote, just talk to the listener. 00:46:00 Speaker 3: Kay, you gotta do some math. I was never good at math, but that's okay. You know what is fun to try to do is like when you're a little drunk or stone or something. Try to do long division. It's really hard. I also have sometimes tried to do the SATs. That's also really hard. What else? What else I do have? I meant to say, I do have a paranormal podcast where we listen to people's stories and stuff. Just check it out. It's called a Funny Feeling. What else is happening? It's a lovely day, you know. I've been watching Traders on Peacock. Has anybody watched that? It's pretty fun. 00:46:47 Speaker 4: I highly recommend it. 00:46:50 Speaker 3: It takes place in a Scottish castle and it's a bunch of people like kind of playing that game murder or Mafia. Have you watched it. 00:46:59 Speaker 4: I've watched the first episode and I need to continue because it's very interesting. Yeah, it's nice when a reality show has a strong theme. Yes, you don't get that that often anymore. Right, I've been watching Alone, which has enough. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: ALOS watched one episode of that and I feel that I was like, and that's enough for me. Like a dude shot a squirrel like directly, like in the head with a bow and arrow, and I was just like, oh my. 00:47:25 Speaker 4: Wow, you spoiled something for you. I don't know which season that. I've only seen them squish mice with the rock, which is truly discussing, and then they eat it and. 00:47:33 Speaker 3: Then they eat it. 00:47:34 Speaker 4: Oh, it's hard to watch. 00:47:36 Speaker 3: It's intense. It's an intense shit really, like. 00:47:41 Speaker 4: People just losing pounds and pounds. They're just totally emaciated by the end. But I did watch an episode yesterday. The guy left literally within twelve hours, and I thought, what did you think this was gonna be? 00:47:53 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:47:53 Speaker 4: Come, I feel the one episode I watched. 00:47:57 Speaker 3: A dude fell and hurt his ankle in a immediately and it was oh yeah, man, this sucks, like this is tough to do. 00:48:06 Speaker 4: I feel bad for the second to last person because to think you've been you have been through hell, you've eaten mice or whatever you've done, and. 00:48:15 Speaker 3: You lose, you lose weeks or. 00:48:18 Speaker 4: Months of your life just vanish and you get nothing. Oh that that's tough, and you kind of don't even become a reality star. No, nobody really cares about their personalities, right. Oh awful, hate to hear it. This is how we play gift mass. Okay, I'm going to name three celebrities. Then I'm going to name three gifts things you can give away. You're gonna tell me which gift you're going to give, which celebrity and why. Okay, okay makes a perfect sense. Okay, these are the celebrities. Number one Sissa we love Sissa r and b Rep Yes Wonder. Number two Robert Smith of The Cure Okay, icon, yeah, absolute icon, we love Robert Smith. And number three another. I mean, we have so many great celebrities Joan Cusack. Oh man, that was a nice mix of people. Yeah, these are the gifts. Number one a link to an interesting article. Okay. Number two a sleeveless shirt and the confidence to wear it, oh, Joan? And number three David du Comney. Okay, you'll be giving them David oh Man. Okay, okay, oh, okay. 00:49:36 Speaker 3: I think I truly think shirt with no sleeves in the confidence to wear Joan Cusack should kill it. But I feel like she probably already has the confidence. 00:49:47 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, she does have the I don't want to talk you off. 00:49:50 Speaker 3: I know that's fair enough. 00:49:51 Speaker 4: We don't know where Joan currently is, less journey. She played Debbie in Adam's Family Value. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: She's got the confidence. 00:49:59 Speaker 4: She's a She was so good in Adam Sammy Values, Incredible. You can always count on her. She's like, even if she's in a movie that's not great, you'll know she's in engaging and fun to watch, so good. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: Yes, okay? Is she John's sister? 00:50:14 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:50:15 Speaker 3: Interesting? 00:50:16 Speaker 4: John and Jones, John and Joe. Do you think there's like a June in there? I hope not, because we don't know who she is and everyone's forgotten June. 00:50:22 Speaker 3: I never wanted to act, Okay, I never wanted to, so it's not a big deal. I never wanted to be charming and I loved by America. It's not a big deal. 00:50:35 Speaker 4: Those ten years were a different thing. Yes, that was a whole different thing. These head shots were for me. 00:50:40 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just me and me alone. All those acting classes. They were just for me to get confident in public speaking, which I don't even want to do anymore. Okay, June and shit chill, Okay, okay, maybe, but they. 00:50:54 Speaker 4: All seem pretty confident. That's the thing. I want you to go with your gut here. You don't, I'm not going to talk to you. 00:51:01 Speaker 3: You messed it all up. My gud doesn't know what to do now. I kind of want to give David du Coveney to Scissa. They have them like do something together, you know. 00:51:14 Speaker 4: That seems like a good duos New X pair. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: They would be there we go. 00:51:21 Speaker 4: I feel like Scissa would be like a very charismatic Uh what are they? 00:51:25 Speaker 3: You know? There? 00:51:26 Speaker 4: What is the agency they work for? No idea? 00:51:29 Speaker 3: The alien agency? 00:51:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, c I A. 00:51:32 Speaker 3: But then is it? 00:51:35 Speaker 4: I feel like Onalisa is typing into the computer trying desperately to find out what every interesting. But they look into strange things. 00:51:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, Sissa and David. Yeah, so I think they should be the FBI. I would love to see that two files. So maybe yet, you know, you know, wait, here we go a sleeveless shirt. 00:52:01 Speaker 4: To Robert Smith. This is making more sense to and. 00:52:05 Speaker 3: Then send a link to Joan and then I hope that she's like, wow, that was really a good article. 00:52:11 Speaker 4: Jones seems like the sort of person that would get the link and actually click through, would read it. Maybe give you a call. 00:52:18 Speaker 3: Probably if you want to discuss this. And wait, I didn't read I only read the headline. Tell me what it was. You tell me what it was. It just reminded me of you. I didn't read it. 00:52:30 Speaker 4: And Robert's getting into late middle age. He's pretty pale, He's probably not wearing a lot of sleeveless tops at this point. But to give him, like, hey, let's get back a tank or you know what, what's another sleeveless shirt. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: I don't know, I. 00:52:48 Speaker 4: Don't wear I'm not in a sleeveless shirt. Yeah, I'm not walking around with that takes a lot of confidence, it really does. But to give that to Robert would be such a gift at this point in this line. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: So you're welcome. 00:53:02 Speaker 4: Decently played I mean I had to get in there and save you. You know, you really did. 00:53:06 Speaker 3: I almost really ate shit there, I almost really biffed it, but you saved me. 00:53:11 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. You are so welcome, and those celebrities are welcome. Okay, well, decently played. It's time for the last segment of the podcast. This is called I said no emails. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com, and I should also be clear, listener, you can also send in suggestions for our games there as well, because people get a little confused. They'll send them everywhere. And feel free to use that email for whatever. Just don't send any you know, pornographic images. I said no gifts at gmail dot com. People write in they're desperate for answers. Yes, my listeners, their lives are in ruin. Oh no, it's awful to hear. So, I you know, my life is perfect, everything's going right for me at all times, and so I occasionally say, hey, I'm going to reach out and help, and my listen or my guest always helps. Will you help me? Yes, Okay, let me read this email. 00:54:13 Speaker 3: Let's see here. 00:54:14 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, highbridger and disrespectful, but sensual guest. 00:54:20 Speaker 3: And that's an interesting quality. Okay, I don't know what to do? 00:54:24 Speaker 4: You do with that? What you will? I need your help. My father in law and his unhinged wife one of then in parentheses. One of her favorite things is dismissing people from her life by letting letting them know they're dead to her. Okay, so they, the father in law and wife, are horrible gift givers. The bad part is that they are firm believers in quantity over qualities. So when they do give gifts to not only myself and my husband, but also to our five and seven year old girls, it's in piles piles of wrapped garbage, pamphlets, and travel sized toiletries from the dozens of trips they take through the years, ill fitting off season, off brand clothes that were either from a bargain bin or state Fair, or toys that even a dog wouldn't be interested, to the point that some of them never make home. Make them home? What oh, oh, they never even get home. We either throw them out right in the trash or donate them. Okay, they're making a lot of stops on the way home. They use They used to at least throw a gift card in that would be useful in some way, but now we get the piles of crap and nothing else. They make such a huge ordeal out of it, especially how long it took her to wrap it all, so we have to act grateful when in reality we want to just tell them to save themselves the time and money and don't bother, or really maybe ask us what size the girls wear or what they're into, so that they have a better chance of getting them something they'd actually use and enjoy. Please also keep in mind we live in an apartment in New York City, so we are also constantly decluttering, and the last thing we need is more stuff. Is it rude to point this out or to suggest maybe gifting an experience like tickets to a show or a day in a museum and restaurant. Please help us navigate this tricky trash. Thank you, And that's from Dana. Dana in New York has a New York Look what I'm seeing immediately, Dana's father in law and wife. They are putting a lot of effort into getting gifts. They are out there, they're traveling the world. They're thinking about the daughter in law and her partner and the grandchildren. They're thinking, what can we get them? Pamphlets, hotel, shampoo, toys, this like irregular shirt and then they, you know, they're putting them together, these gorgeous prize packages. And I don't know, they probably live in some small town and they're trying their best. Well. Meanwhile, Dana and partner and children, fancy New York. They're getting these gifts and they think they're all ship. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, this isn't THEO Schwartz. 00:57:09 Speaker 4: Where's my giant keyboard? 00:57:11 Speaker 3: Where's my giant keyboard? 00:57:13 Speaker 4: And meanwhile, and Dana clearly has some ideas. She wants tickets to Broadway. That's so New York. 00:57:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, she wants to go to a museum. 00:57:22 Speaker 4: She's got to be at the met She's got to be at the Guggenheim. Mama, Mama, Mama. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: You should start calling it mama. Now have you all been, mama? It's pretty sweet. 00:57:42 Speaker 4: I haven't been to New York in a while. 00:57:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, God, you sound like a hic. 00:57:49 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:57:50 Speaker 4: I mean, Dana has really embarrassed herself here, That's what I'm gonna say. 00:57:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is humiliating Dana. 00:57:57 Speaker 4: She's talking about how the dogs won't even accept Yes, that's wild. 00:58:01 Speaker 3: So what do we tell Dana in this situation? I think, Dana, I think what you do is you send a letter with letters cut out of a magazine saying, hey, stop giving whatever family name is, these piles of gifts. We don't want them. If you do it, we're gonna come and kidnap you. And then they'll be like, Okay, we probably shouldn't. 00:58:25 Speaker 4: So they are going to believe that some third party is witnessing this gift giving, and it's like stepping. 00:58:32 Speaker 3: In, yes, and you can you can add that into your letter, be like we've been watching you for years. You don't know who we are, you don't know where we're from, but we've been watching you give these gifts and you need to stop or else we're gonna come and kidnap you. Okay. 00:58:49 Speaker 4: I think that's a great solution. I mean, Dana is obviously kind of exposed them on this podcast, which is I'm sure they're both listeners, and so we just kind of have to attack Dana as much as possible here so that the father in law and wife, why is she not the mother in law? Could she be the stepmother in law? 00:59:08 Speaker 1: You know you? 00:59:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think maybe there's that thing there where it's like, and why wife, Okay, my mother in law? 00:59:16 Speaker 4: You will you know, yeah, probably stepmother in law or whatever. Let's give you know, give this woman some respect. She's going out of her way to get so many gifts, and she's obviously hit some hard times. She's no longer leaving the gift cards in there, right, and she's got these awful people in her life that are just just terrible. Be it so mean, Dana, don't write back into the podcast. You've got your answer and it was perfect. 00:59:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, will make the letter for you if you want. I love making. What are those notes? Random ransom notes? 00:59:50 Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess those are. Do you ever send those preemptively? Yeah? 00:59:55 Speaker 3: It chills people out if somebody's been bothering me, I said about and that we'll shut up. 01:00:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:00:02 Speaker 4: I feel like those are usually done after the facts, Yeah, usually, But I guess sending one in advance that's a nice little threat on the does. And it's always almost always about kidnapping. It's not like for the most part, right or what other information are you conveying through the clips letters? I don't know, and we all know the magazine industries and shambles. Where are you getting these magazines? 01:00:25 Speaker 3: You remember in Truman Show how he would rip out eyes and noses and stuff to try to put that lady together. 01:00:31 Speaker 4: He makes her face, Yeah, perfectly, perfectly. It looks so much like her. I'm just remembering this. I feel like they just basically I took that actor's photos of this. 01:00:43 Speaker 3: I think they did, Like those eyes is like, those are her eyes? 01:00:46 Speaker 2: Man? 01:00:47 Speaker 3: What are we doing? Yeah? 01:00:50 Speaker 4: That was a mistake on the filmmaker's party. 01:00:54 Speaker 3: Come on, we got some notes from a movie that came out twenty years ago. Have you seen that movie recently? 01:01:00 Speaker 4: Does it hold up? 01:01:01 Speaker 3: I watched it on an airplane Shining, same flight from Montreal to l a different time. Oh, but they offer air Canada offers the Shining and Truman Show. Well some tasteful picks. But it holds up. 01:01:21 Speaker 4: It really does. 01:01:22 Speaker 3: Maybe I should give that movie a shot again. And it kind of like because I had seen it when it came out and so I was like a teenager if even and rewatching it as an adult, it kind of makes you think, oh, no, this is where this is your red pill. Like it definitely just makes me be like, what is existence just a little bit, just a little well. 01:01:47 Speaker 4: That's how it starts, just mild thought and then like my haircut just kind of unravels you until you have I been. 01:01:56 Speaker 3: Looking for your Headye, cameras thinking everybody's watching the Betsy Show. No, I haven't turned it over chairs. 01:02:05 Speaker 4: You'll never really know. That's kind of there's kind of nothing you can do to find out. 01:02:11 Speaker 2: No. 01:02:11 Speaker 4: I mean, but I feel like the Truman Show, there are some some pretty there's some red flags where the wife's like doing a commercial. 01:02:17 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that yet, so I think I'm clear. Yeah, but I'm going to give that movie another show. You should. It was it's good. 01:02:28 Speaker 4: Do you get emotional while watching movies on plane? Yes, And I've talked to friends about this. 01:02:33 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I get way like I like cry more. I like cried it Scrooged, Like at the end of Scrooge, I was like kind of sobbing. I cried it like I was watching Amazing Race Canada, and I was like crying, Like it's a. 01:02:51 Speaker 4: Thing, right, Yeah, I think like your body is weakened or something. 01:02:55 Speaker 3: It's like almost like a degree of being. 01:02:57 Speaker 4: Sick where you're like, oh, just like not quite as strong mentally or so yeah, because do you feel that way? 01:03:05 Speaker 1: Yeah? 01:03:05 Speaker 3: I do feel that way. 01:03:06 Speaker 4: I mean the last time I really sobbed at a movie I had, I mean sobbed at media was when I had Strap Throat and maybe twenty fifteen, and the two things that made me cry were Bridge of Spies, the Steven Spielberg movie, Oh Sobbing, absolutely sobbing, and Shark Tink. 01:03:26 Speaker 3: I was crying. 01:03:27 Speaker 4: I thought they were being too mean to the pictures. Is that what we call them? The sail Yeah, the entrepreneurs is absolutely crying saying they're being too mean to them. 01:03:37 Speaker 3: Oh my, isn't that wild? I don't know where. 01:03:41 Speaker 4: It just sets you up like, oh, commercials will kill me. Well, commercials are the most manipulative thing of all those assholes. 01:03:48 Speaker 3: Those assholes, they. 01:03:49 Speaker 4: Really are pushing your buttons to get you to buy cleans or whatever. 01:03:52 Speaker 3: Last night I got really mad at one and it's one of those where it's like it was it was a pill. 01:04:00 Speaker 4: Okay, they're all pills. There's so many that. 01:04:03 Speaker 3: Are pills, and it was just the list for what could fuck you up from the pill was way longer than any of Like I couldn't tell you what the bill does, but I do tell I could tell you like there's a good chance you'll die from taking the pill. And they just kept listing stuff and I just kept getting angrier and angrier because they were also showing like real like older people being had and it was just like, fuck you man, what you're saying is this pill is gonna like give you like increased heart like like all this crazy shit. 01:04:39 Speaker 4: It just it really made me mad. Of course, I feel like one of those I've seen recently. Have you seen the one that there's like a song about having diarrhea? They've gotten out of hand and it's really all of the commercials are now pharmaceuticals. 01:04:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bummer. It's a real it's a big bummer. 01:04:58 Speaker 4: Like and most the time it's like are you feeling kind of this way? 01:05:03 Speaker 3: Ask your doctor about this, where it's like this seems like this is that's a crazy way to be, like I think I need to pill. 01:05:09 Speaker 4: The scene so you start, it's a kind of a web Md sort of thing like I kind of feel that way, and then your doctor the vulture has been circling you ready to sell you the thing. I mean, let's be honest. I'm fully on board with the medical community. I should be clear about that. But yeah, there's a pill for everything. There's a pill. There's pills for when you have to take other pills. 01:05:33 Speaker 3: Is that true? Yes, Whether they're like, if you're doing this treatment, you're gonna also want to do this treatment, It's like no, Yeah, this is too crazy, dude, this is too crazy. Oh it bums me out so much. 01:05:46 Speaker 4: It's a drag. It's an absolute drag. But now I have these four, these four films commercial free. You have to let me know how they are spook filled, you know, every one of them a different scare at every corner. Yeah, Like one of these. 01:06:02 Speaker 3: Movies mess you up forever. Like the next time I see you, you're like getting pushed around with like crazy long white hair and like your like fingernails are like touching the ground, Like, what the fuck happened? 01:06:15 Speaker 4: The same will have happened to you? From the Truman Show I'll Meet You, Okay, Okay, I mean a horror movie. He does have that potential. Strangers did that. 01:06:25 Speaker 1: To me, dude. 01:06:26 Speaker 3: One of the scariest movies ever, easily one of the scariest movies ever. That's when I'll watch only like every couple of. 01:06:32 Speaker 4: You, and I need to have somebody there with me too. I couldn't never watch it by myself. I could never watch it by like I tried once, I had to turn it off. I had to turn it off wait for someone to come over. Oh God, Betsy, I've had such a wonderful time. I've got my movies. I mean, we got through our little disagreement. You played the game fine a shit. We taught a listener a lesson, we did. I mean, who could ask for more? 01:07:02 Speaker 3: I don't know if you do ask for more. Get out of here, Get out of here, louse loud. 01:07:07 Speaker 4: There's gotta be a podcast with more. There's so many podcasts. Get looking. 01:07:12 Speaker 3: We don't need you. 01:07:13 Speaker 4: No, thank you for being here, Thank you for having me listener. The podcast is, you know, wrapping up here. You saw the signs you were feeling it. You knew that this was going to end, and so I know you started doing your other things. You started getting ready for your other activities for the day, and I love that. I'm so happy for you. You've got a little head start. Go do whatever you need to do. I love you goodbye, I said, no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leanna Squilotchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from Miracle Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:08:13 Speaker 3: But I invite? 01:08:14 Speaker 1: Did you hear. 01:08:17 Speaker 4: Thought? 01:08:18 Speaker 1: I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no gifts, your own presences. Presence and. 01:08:36 Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?