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Speaker 2: Ut The moment Obama spoke, the case of Trayvon Martin

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Speaker 2: The Daily Caller conservative website broadcast all of Martin's tweets,

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Speaker 2: A white supremacist site called Stormfront produced a photo of

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Speaker 2: obama comments it is the President, suggesting that if it

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Speaker 2: form National Review decided to the real problem was that

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Speaker 2: when non blacks pulled the trigger. John Derbyshire, writer for

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Speaker 2: TAKI Magazine, a iconoclastic libertarian publication composed a racist advice

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Speaker 2: Derbyshire's tips, never helped black people in any kind of distress,

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Speaker 2: it would be wrong to attribute the Virginine support for

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Speaker 1: Blunders of Spike Lee or the NBC producer.

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Speaker 2: Before President Obama spoke, the death of Trayvon Martin was

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Speaker 2: George Zimmerman was arguably the most reviled man in America.

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Speaker 2: those who believed that an apt history of racism begins

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Speaker 2: The irony of Barack Obama is this, he has become

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Speaker 2: greater ironies of the country he leads. For most of

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Speaker 2: American history, our political system was premised on two conflicting facts,

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Speaker 2: warring against his paradox. African Americans have historically been restricted

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Speaker 2: and in certain quarters was received as such. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Black Autist Podcast, your host Rod and and

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Speaker 2: in American Tragedy by Tan Coats or Tahite Coats. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: And all he did at one time is merely mentioned

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Speaker 1: The people that support him is the backlash. Don't get

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Speaker 2: All these judge appointments are still the backlash. The defense

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing and it's not the fact that you can't

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Speaker 2: I'll listen to Bomani Show the right time on ESPN,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's possible for a white black celebrity

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Speaker 1: Because we do have a precedent for that.

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Speaker 2: we do Kaepernick. He paid the ultimate cost of losing

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Speaker 2: his career, but he's kind of a saint amongst black people.

441
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: He has no flaws. Now, you know, he doesn't even

442
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: have to speak. You know, the thing that we said

443
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: we wanted Michael Jordan to do, Kaepernick doesn't have to

444
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: do it. He's good on any MLK boulevard, right. So

445
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Speaker 2: it's just kind of interesting to think about it in

446
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: that terms of like, man, we give voice to this

447
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: thing we think we still have that impost to think

448
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: we can change it.

449
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Speaker 1: We just give voice to it. They kill MLK, you know,

450
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Speaker 1: they don't, they don't. There is no getting through that though.

451
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Speaker 4: No, And I think and you're kind of about to

452
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Speaker 4: pulling up since like MLK and Malcolm X, you know,

453
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: a lot of black people have always looked for that

454
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Speaker 4: quote unquote straight male leader to represent and some people

455
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Speaker 4: they will never stop looking.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point because MJ. MJ is a

457
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: charismatic black man too. And then we then flocked to

458
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Speaker 2: and now you have to become a leader.

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Speaker 1: You know.

460
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Speaker 2: It was funny, not funny, but it was interesting seeing

461
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Speaker 2: Jamail Hill's you know, kind of point out how, yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: look Jordan didn't step up in activism and stuff, and

463
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Speaker 2: I'm like, look what they did to you, Like they

464
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Speaker 2: they they don't care how good you are at your job.

465
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. You're the greatest in the world at it.

466
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Speaker 2: White people just hate that you brought that shit up.

467
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Speaker 1: It didn't matter. Iis Barack Obama. Does matteris Michael Jordan's

468
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Speaker 1: And we.

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Speaker 2: Know who else hates when we bring it up to

470
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Speaker 2: on the low we do because then we turn on

471
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Speaker 2: them before not being the Negro that could get through

472
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Speaker 2: to them. You know, like, how could you fail us,

473
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Speaker 2: Barack Obama? How could you fail us? Michael Jordan? How

474
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: could you fail us? You weren't able to do You

475
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Speaker 2: weren't able to get through to them.

476
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Speaker 4: You know, ye know we're asking you to do it.

477
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 4: We're asking you do something that's impossible. And like I

478
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: said before, this is why I don't fought any athlete,

479
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Speaker 4: or any celebrity, or any black person that has money

480
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: influence apply for not speaking out because it's their choice

481
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 4: and their right. Until you start asking these white people

482
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Speaker 4: these questions.

483
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Speaker 3: About black people getting shot in street. I know, because

484
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: every black person.

485
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Speaker 4: Isn't willing to lose their fortune, every black person isn't

486
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Speaker 4: willing to lose their endorsements. Why do I have to

487
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Speaker 4: sacrifice for the calls?

488
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Speaker 3: Like? You know what I mean? Just keep it real.

489
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: You know, we expect you to just give up everything

490
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: or be a I just wanted to play sports.

491
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Speaker 3: I didn't sign up to be an activist.

492
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Speaker 2: But that but also fruitlessly, right, we don't because we

493
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Speaker 2: don't want you to like do it and then keep

494
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Speaker 2: prospering it and whatever. It's like, do it until you

495
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: lose everything that's the only way some people are gonna

496
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: be happy, and then they're gonna laugh at you for

497
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: losing everything. But yeah, it's weird because I remember when

498
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: earlier this year when Darryl MORI or maybe it's last year,

499
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Darryl Mooy tweeted, Darryl Morridy GM or the Houston Rockets

500
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: tweeted some like, you know, like I'm supporting the protesters

501
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: in China shit, and then everybody wanted Lebron James to

502
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: basically say, fuck the entire NBA business with China, Fuck

503
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: my own personal business with China, fuck all of that stuff.

504
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: I side with the protesters because freedom. And they wanted

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Speaker 2: Lebron James to do that on a whim, by the way,

506
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Speaker 2: without even knowing what was happening, for not knowing that

507
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: he actually was in China when he's fucking riots was

508
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: going off with shit.

509
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Speaker 1: They didn't want they didn't give a fuck.

510
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Speaker 2: They just wanted him to do it because hey, you're

511
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: black and you woke, and you're supposed to You're like

512
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: our puppet to a certain extent, and there's a level

513
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Speaker 2: of autonomy to black people going no, like I'm not

514
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: your fucking Aaron boy. I'm not your like the I'm

515
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: not being treated the same as my peers, and that

516
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't have and I shouldn't have to like acquiesce to that.

517
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have.

518
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: To be the guy who becomes Martin Luther King because

519
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: I can shoot a basketball real good. You know, I

520
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: speak on the things I want to speak on. If

521
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: you want to judge me for not speaking on the

522
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: things I don't, that's cool. But understand, you don't fucking

523
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: control me, you don't own me, And why don't you

524
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: apply this pressure equally? Why why is this pressure on me?

525
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: Like you don't We're not going around to Luca Dantek

526
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: and going explain this China situation off the top of

527
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: your head real quick and make everybody happy, make everybody

528
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: understand it, like it's that kind of shit.

529
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Speaker 1: So it made me think about that, all right, let

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Speaker 1: me oh.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

532
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And my thing is the truth be told, You'll

533
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: never be happy because at the rude of the problem,

534
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: you want to fix white suprembers and.

535
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: Racism, and no one person and no one statement.

536
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: Will fix that problem.

537
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: And so, like I said before, until you do this equally,

538
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: I'm finding that like if a black person chooses to

539
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: speak out. I'm fine with that too.

540
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, I.

541
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Speaker 4: Feel, you know, equal against it. I'm not upset when

542
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: you don't, and I'm happy.

543
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 5: When you do. But I don't hold it against you either.

544
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: Way, you know.

545
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: But you know, it's funny how a lot of times,

546
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: and I think too, in my opinion before we move on,

547
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: a lot of black.

548
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: People feel hopeless.

549
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: They feel powerless at their jobs and they deal it

550
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: with depression. All this shit and shit happened to them

551
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: all the time, and they don't feel like they're in

552
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: a position to speak up. So they feel like you

553
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: in a position to quote unquote speak up because white

554
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: people acknowledge you and know who you are and know

555
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: your name. You should do this on my behalf, but

556
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: my thing. If you, in your own individual life won't

557
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: do it, why would you expect somebody else to do it?

558
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also say go listen to the Right Time

559
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: with Scoop Jackson.

560
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: I think it's the latest one.

561
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: Both did great interview, and I think school provides a

562
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: perspective on Jordan that you just don't hear a lot

563
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: like because he was there, he like he lived in Chicago,

564
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: he covered the bulls and the NBA at that time,

565
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: so he actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

566
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: And while a lot of people bump their chest to

567
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: be like, because it's also a way to feel better

568
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: than these people, let's keep it real. It's like most

569
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: things where we shit on celebrity activism, it's about making

570
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: ourselves feel better than them as if well, if I

571
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: had their money and their fame, just how I do it,

572
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: and I would be everyone would think I was the

573
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: greatest and they would all agree. And I think I

574
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: love the way he broke it down. I was like,

575
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: but Jordan has always done so much stuff behind the

576
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: scenes that.

577
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: People don't know about, and and that kills me too.

578
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: And also it's not just that, but he's done stuff

579
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. But everyone's not meant to be everything

580
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: for everybody. So you need a Michael Jordan the same

581
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: way you need you know, an activist, you need uh

582
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: And that's one of the flaws that we have when

583
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: we view these things.

584
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: We're not looking at the whole realistically. You know.

585
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: It's like when Jay Z and Beyonce were giving money

586
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: behind the scenes of.

587
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: All these activist organizations.

588
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Nobody was going, you know, oh, that's just they're doing

589
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: a good job and they're staying in their lane and

590
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: they need to just do that. No, it was like,

591
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: and now if you don't start saying something blah blah blah,

592
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: it's like, we're not gonna let you grow into it.

593
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna say you ain't shit, Like, fuck, fuck the money,

594
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: fuck the people you help, fuck all that shit. You

595
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: need to come out and give a speech. When you

596
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: give a speech, then we'll see you give a speech.

597
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: You still ain't shit, you're still rich, you don't do enough,

598
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: like it was always gonna be a lost sum for them.

599
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: And I think some people just wised up to her early.

600
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: Jordan wives up to her early, I think j and

601
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: B wives up to her earlier, and they just go,

602
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be my MoU's authentic self and let these

603
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: motherfuckers talk they shit and help what I can help,

604
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: and be comfortable in knowing that I have the best

605
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: intentions right.

606
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: And also it's one of these things when it comes to.

607
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: Activist and just black people's voices and people speaking up,

608
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: it's like a body, and you need all parts of

609
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: the body.

610
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: Everybody can't be a mouthpiece.

611
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: Everybody can't be a mouthpiece, and so you need people

612
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: that are doing these other things. Like I might not

613
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: be a person that's out front, but what I can

614
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: do is donate time, money, and talent, and these are

615
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: things that people do that you don't always see. And

616
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: so yeah, I might not be the face of it,

617
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: but I might be giving and donating and doing all

618
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: types of shit that people don't see. And I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of times when people make these blanketed statements

620
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: like that they don't know what these people are doing

621
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: with their money, everybody makes assumptions, and when they do,

622
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: they get mad about that.

623
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: Correct, So it's a lose situation.

624
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Not enough, or you should have did it, gave it

625
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: to this organization instead, Like it's never a fuck enough

626
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: And it's always like this idea that there was a

627
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: thing you could have done to fix this white supremacy,

628
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, the fuck, there's not correct. Butterfly

629
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Speaker 2: in the sky, I could go twice as high.

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Speaker 6: Take a look, it's in a book, a reading rainbow.

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Speaker 6: I can go anywhere, rains to know and ways to grow.

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Speaker 1: A reading rainbow. I can be anything. Take a look,

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Speaker 1: it's in up a book, A reading rainbow, A reading Rainbow.

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635
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Speaker 2: with this. Yeah, anyway, well one of us singing loud anyway?

636
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Speaker 3: You can got you're trying to say.

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Speaker 2: I took it down level, took it down level. But

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody at home for quarantine. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's happened. Uh, but you know, I guess we'll see

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Speaker 2: him on the ring, Dobell right before they get to us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's going around, it's going down, and it's mostly

659
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Speaker 2: bad right.

660
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was. I was like, man, why haven't I

661
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: been doing this lately?

662
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, because I start with coronavirus,

663
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, normally after I pro I pro preamble on

664
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Speaker 2: blackness from a movie from a uh book that I read.

665
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of bad news

666
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: some good news.

667
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Speaker 1: Let's see, we can get to it. Guys.

668
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: Experts warned gay men against hooking up due to coronavirus,

669
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: suggests masturbation and cybersex.

670
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Speaker 3: Shouldn't it be something for everybody?

671
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's I mean, it's a problem anyway.

672
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: How is it just? Are gay people the only people

673
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Speaker 1: who breathe?

674
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about, Like like like like shouldn't

675
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Speaker 4: it be like a massive things like a y'all a

676
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Speaker 4: you know, I know, everybody at homehrning, but.

677
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Speaker 3: For the safety of everybody, it's day to.

678
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Speaker 5: Fuck at home.

679
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: Gay people get horned and regular people Okay.

680
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Speaker 2: Okay, by regular people you mean straight Yeah, yeah, you

681
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: know people like so you had your people, then you

682
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: had a gaze and so they are just a totally

683
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: different organism.

684
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Speaker 3: You know, it gets spread through the glitter.

685
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been an advocate of promoting app. This

686
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: is doctor Michael Brady, medical director for Britain's Terrice Higgins Trust.

687
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: He said, I know I've never been an advocate for

688
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: rona assinist, but this message is not about protecting your

689
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Speaker 2: sexual health.

690
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Is about protecting your general health and those around you

691
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: from a virus they could be daily.

692
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: This advice means that unless you have sex with someone

693
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: within your household, it's important to find sexual pleasure in

694
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: other ways. It's only natural that we look to sex

695
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: for pleasure, to relieve stress and anxiety, or simply to

696
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: pass the time, whether that's with a regular partner or

697
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: using hookup apps. But our new normal is that we

698
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: have to find ways to do this while sticking to

699
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: the advice to stay on. This is just to protect

700
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Speaker 2: ourselves against coronavirus, but also to protect the most vulnerable

701
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Speaker 2: and society. Brady went on to note that although there's

702
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Speaker 2: no evidence of COVI nineteen that's being spread sexually, it

703
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Speaker 2: can be transmitted through any physical contact within six feet.

704
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Speaker 2: The vibes can well, yeah we know that. Yeah, I

705
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Speaker 2: don't know why this is specific to gay men. I

706
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: guess he's saying gay men use hookup apps and do

707
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Speaker 2: more hookup culture than anybody else. But like, like I said,

708
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Speaker 2: I don't know why that wouldn't be a general warning

709
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Speaker 2: to everyone. That's what I was thinking, Like everyone got

710
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Speaker 2: access to them apps. Dog, Yeah, everybody, everybody, Gazed straight

711
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Speaker 2: and everything in between, everybody, everybody, uh O Coast to

712
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Speaker 2: New York City. LGBTQ Pride March has been canceled for

713
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Speaker 2: the first time in half a century. Many Pride marches

714
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Speaker 2: have had to be canceled. There's all kinds of plans

715
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Speaker 2: for digital and virtual and virtual like Pride celebrations this year,

716
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna you know, people are gonna have to Yeah, And.

717
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Speaker 4: I think, honestly through and it's just my opinion, I

718
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: think for a while, virtual stuff is going to be

719
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: a standard, even as things open up and even there's

720
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Speaker 4: things go back to normal's, nobody's going to want to

721
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Speaker 4: be the first organization to put something on and have

722
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Speaker 4: hundreds and thousands of people come out there just for

723
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Speaker 4: the coronavirus to break out doing their event.

724
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

725
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Speaker 1: I think also with the LGBT community, after the eighties

726
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Speaker 1: and how HIV was treated.

727
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Speaker 2: They're probably, at the same time the most prepared community

728
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Speaker 2: to deal with, like we need to change these rules

729
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: to deal with COVID nineteen. Not to mention many people

730
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Speaker 2: will be having pre existing conditions because of, you know,

731
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Speaker 2: the HIV epidemic, So in addition to that, they're probably

732
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Speaker 2: the most prepared community, more so than even straight people

733
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: and stuff. They're probably like, no, no, no, we've been

734
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Speaker 2: here to this state a fucking the house. Let's I'll

735
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Speaker 2: get through this together, blah blah blah. But at the

736
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Speaker 2: same time, they're probably experiencing the most trauma and PTSD

737
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Speaker 2: from this shit, having been through a viral pandemic where

738
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Speaker 2: people did not care because they said, this happening to you,

739
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: and tell me. That's not the same administration we have now.

740
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Speaker 2: That's saying essentially, we're not following scientific advice and we

741
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Speaker 2: honestly don't give a fuck what happens to people.

742
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Speaker 1: Now.

743
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Speaker 2: That may be new stuff for a lot of people

744
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: who are privileged and straight that's never had to deal

745
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: with this or never or straight and never had HIV

746
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: and stuff like that before.

747
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Speaker 1: A lot of people whose community.

748
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Speaker 2: Was stigmatized by that like, I can see how that

749
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: would bring you right back to like, yo, I'm not

750
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: dealing with this well at all, So I could, like

751
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Speaker 2: I said, I could see it's like being black. I

752
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: can see kind of in a weird way that kind

753
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: of we've been here with but also we never get

754
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Speaker 2: out of here.

755
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: We're always here in this state of panic and stuff.

756
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: So Mike Bloomberg, remember him, Yes, men, when everybody thought

757
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Speaker 2: he was.

758
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Speaker 1: Gonna y'all black people, y'all better not vote for him

759
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Speaker 1: in the South.

760
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Speaker 7: He gonna win anyway, Mike, cause y'all dumb is down now,

761
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 7: y'all don't watch the same news, and we watching up

762
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Speaker 7: the balls of the country.

763
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Speaker 1: He spent a whole lot of money on ads.

764
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Speaker 2: You know, you stupid niggas can't help yourselves anyway. Mike

765
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Speaker 2: Bloomberg called transgender people it and some guy wearing a

766
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Speaker 2: dress in a resurface video. Yeah, it's Mike Bloomberg.

767
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Speaker 1: Who was shocked.

768
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Speaker 2: He had racist videos he had. I mean, no one

769
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Speaker 2: was ever gonna vote for this man.

770
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Speaker 1: I don't know why why people was like what.

771
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Speaker 2: That was so motherfucker and much panic over this shit

772
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: Trump administration unlawfully acting LGBTQ discrimination protections suit claims a

773
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Speaker 2: lawsuit takes av of the Department of Health and Human

774
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Speaker 2: Services proposal that allows organizations to receive federal funds even

775
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: if they exclude gays. These are the things that were

776
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Speaker 2: on the ballot in twenty sixteen. These are the things

777
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: that a lot of people took for granted and thought, well,

778
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: we had eight years of Obama.

779
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Speaker 1: This stuff is here to stay. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

781
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Speaker 3: And it's one of those things too, to where people.

782
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Speaker 5: Was like, uh, we got came married, yay, and.

783
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Speaker 4: People was like okay, yeah, but we stended to push

784
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: and you know, some people's like we made it, and

785
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: other people's like, no, we haven't. There are still other

786
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: things that we need to continue to fight for.

787
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

788
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Speaker 2: They're planning the unlawfully stop enforcing non discrimination protections because

789
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: they don't care for LGBTQ Americans. And what they do

790
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Speaker 2: is they always do this under the hospices of we're

791
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Speaker 2: saving money by not enforcing the things. It's like, well,

792
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: the government agency is designed to enforce the things.

793
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Speaker 3: That's the job.

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00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: You know.

795
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Speaker 2: It's the same thing they doing with Title nine with

796
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Speaker 2: Bessie devotes or they're basically gonna make make it so

797
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: that it's systematized to ostracize victims of sexual assault off

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Speaker 2: of college campuses and stuff. And then they're gonna strip

799
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Speaker 2: the investigation money out of the Title nine and then

800
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: provide extra even more rights to people who are accused

801
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: to basically intimidate the victims, like this is what they do,

802
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: and they attack it through money to make it seem

803
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: like it's a fyscal decision, but it's a it's not

804
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: a physical decision, it's a moral decision. It's a moral decision.

805
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then all you're gonna do is cause people

806
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 4: to a lot of people can't even can't afford college anyway. Uh,

807
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: And it's like a right end of privilege. It's like

808
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 4: that that that thing that classes some things. And then

809
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna cause a lot of people to go, well,

810
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: I'm not going I mean, colleges are still gonna make money,

811
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: but you gonna have a lot of the population to

812
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: be like the fuck I'm going to school for. And

813
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 4: then what do you do if you have just enough

814
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: number of people to go I don't want to be

815
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Speaker 4: a victim on a college campus where it start affecting

816
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Speaker 4: the college campus's bottom line.

817
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Speaker 1: Right, But yeah, I'm I didn't even go on attenger.

818
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: That's my fault.

819
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: The suite centers on notice of non enforcement and a

820
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: proposed rule issue by Trump administration in November that would

821
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Speaker 2: reverse to twenty sixteen Obama Eraror rule prohibiting discrimination and

822
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Speaker 2: HHS funded grant programs, a permit federally funded organization to

823
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Speaker 2: turn people away claiming conflicts or religious beliefs.

824
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Speaker 1: The suit was filed by civil rights group LOMDA Legal.

825
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: And nonprofit Democracy for It on behalf of three LGBTQ

826
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Speaker 2: advocacy groups, True Colors, United Stage and Family Equality. You know,

827
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: it just hit me something because that's another Obama thing

828
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Speaker 2: that they rolled back.

829
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Speaker 1: That one. We didn't even have that long. That's only

830
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Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen, so that's the last year's presidency. But

831
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Speaker 1: it just hit me on something.

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Speaker 2: You know, how many times I've seen, like a black

833
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: person I was unhappy with Obama say some shit like

834
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: what did he ever.

835
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Speaker 1: Do for black people? And shit?

836
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Speaker 2: And and it's always a trick question because anything you

837
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Speaker 2: bring up unless the fucking name of it was the

838
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: black and they black nigga nigga. I got y'all hook

839
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: up from the black president to black folks. They're gonna

840
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: say it didn't it don't count, but fuck the trick shit.

841
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: What So then you do admit though he did help

842
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: certain groups of people, because a lot of times it

843
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: is low key kind of couching.

844
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: He did stuff for gay people, not for us.

845
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: You know, stuff like like there's not black gays, but

846
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that, he did stuff for these

847
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: people but not us.

848
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: It's always some weird shit like that.

849
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Speaker 2: But my point being this, so if he did things

850
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: for people that were positive, that did that, you do

851
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: agree helped groups that were marginalized, then why the fuck

852
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: is that okay to then go, well, we'll just let

853
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: a Republican in, or I'll just won't vote, or it'll

854
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: just be.

855
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I will fuck it.

856
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Did that's still something good happening from him being in

857
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: the office. That's so crazy that that was logic that

858
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people employed like, yeah, he only helped

859
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: women and gay people and dreamers and this and that,

860
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, so is that so then let

861
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: Trump in? That doesn't make sense that just anyway. Essence,

862
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: Women in Hollywood luncheon honors trans women of pos the

863
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Speaker 2: trailblazing cast and writer, director producer of Pose.

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Speaker 1: MJ.

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Speaker 2: Rodriguez, India Moore, Dominique Jackson, Angelica Ross, Haley Sahir, and

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Speaker 2: Janet Mock were honored Thursday at Essences annual Black Women

867
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Speaker 2: in Hollywood lunching, where Mock called on the community to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that black trans women and girls are worthy of

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Speaker 2: our protection and care. To often black trans women in

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Speaker 2: black queer and genderno conforming folk put their bodies on

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Speaker 2: the line every day to beat themselves, Mock said, grappling

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Speaker 2: with housing and joblessness and a lack of access to healthcare, education,

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Speaker 2: nonavigating our peoples intolerance and willful ignorance, pushing our sisters

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Speaker 2: out of homes in tolerance schools and churches, and into

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Speaker 2: detention facilities, foster homes, prisons, and deeper into poverty. And

876
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: these alarming issues remain wildly unaddressed because we as a

877
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: culture do not acknowledge that trans women are women, that

878
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: black bodies are valuable, that black trans girls and black

879
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: trans women are worthy of our protection and care. Her speech,

880
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: which I have many in the room wiping away tears,

881
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: went on to celebrate the cast of Post and the

882
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: work they do to put black trans stories front and center.

883
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: The struggle for black people must include black trans and

884
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: queer people, period, and this award affirms that our stories,

885
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: our lives, our experiences matter and reassures that the way

886
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: that we tell it from the perspective and talents of

887
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: those who lived it is most impactful. Yes, interesting, because

888
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: I do watch polls and me and Justin you know,

889
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: we often come and talk about on the show. But

890
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: one of the things I noticed was like, the criticism

891
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: of that show was so fucking harsh. And I'm not

892
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: talking about from like biggest and shit. I mean from

893
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: fucking people that claim to be supportive or within the community.

894
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: And it's not my place to you know, I don't

895
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: even if it was my place. I don't spend time

896
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: arguing with people on fucking social media about TV shows and.

897
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: Shit, I'm not doing it.

898
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: But one thing I always felt was like how horribly

899
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: unfair and cruel.

900
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: The criticism was towards the show.

901
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: You know, whether it be people going well, these people

902
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: can't act well for some folks, we don't get the

903
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: we don't get the opportunities to be seasoned actors, and

904
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: some of those actors Some of those actors on the

905
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: show did improve throughout the seasons. Some of them you

906
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: just needed to get used to the way that they

907
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: portray characters because it was like, Okay, now I know

908
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: what to expect from this character. Some of it, you know,

909
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: you need these characters need to have moments, and you

910
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you have a moment on the show

911
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: and that's when you finally get a character.

912
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. People getting mad.

913
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: At certain storylines why they kill the dark skin trans women.

914
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: Don't we all say dark skinned trans women are the

915
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: ones dying on these streets. Pose is not fantasy, it's

916
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: advocacy through their telling their own story. So it would

917
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: almost be irrational. And they still kept the actress on

918
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: the show like employed by the way, but it will

919
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: almost be more fucked up to go, well, now we're

920
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: gonna change that story because you know, guys, we don't

921
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: want people.

922
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: To notice is happening.

923
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: Like it's like, because there's only one show like this,

924
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: they end up in the trap of blackness, except now

925
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: they're black and they're dealing with LGBTQ issues throughout it too,

926
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: so like they they fall into the double trap of

927
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: you gotta represent for all the black people and all

928
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ storylines period, and we want you to advocate

929
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: for us, but we also want you to be fun,

930
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: and we want fantasy and escapism, but we better have

931
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: some realers because if it ain't real, y'all full of.

932
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: Shit, I'm not gonna watch. And it's just felt like

933
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: a trap for them. And then on top of.

934
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: That, after you deal with all that critique and criticism

935
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: disguises love or whatever, you then don't get rewarded by

936
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: your own fucking people. You know, Beauty Awards, don't you know,

937
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: Like people had to advocate for that show for two

938
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: years for them to finally get on stage and get

939
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: acknowledged while they were breaking fucking records and shit. So

940
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 2: you know, it's a damn shame to be honest, because

941
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: it's such a cash twenty two. But anyway, I never

942
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: wanted to contribute to any of that that shit because

943
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, I get it.

944
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Some people it's like they can't help themselves.

945
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: It's like I gotta say this, I gotta I'm not

946
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: But for me, I never felt comfortable being like I'm

947
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: gonna comfort this show's neck or I'm gonna show y'all

948
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: you know this, how y'all should have did it? And

949
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: shit like that, Cause it's like, imagine the show first

950
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: time even getting to tell this fucking story, you know

951
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, what should happen is that we

952
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: should have more stories about black trans women and and

953
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: black LGBTQ life through and then and then we wouldn't

954
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: feel so well. Hopefully one day maybe people wouldn't feel

955
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: so much pressure to have every show tell every story

956
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: and get every story correct, you know, in the way

957
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: that they feel is correct right, because there's really no

958
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: right way. Oh never Poses in the millions of homes,

959
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: enabling viewers around the world to meet, to know the love,

960
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: to root for five trans heroines. Characters on other shows

961
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: who would be mere sidekicks or supplies or punchlines, but

962
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: Pose moves these characters from the margins to the center stage.

963
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm all every day by the talent, the grace, the

964
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: beauty of these women next to me. They are the

965
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: heroes I've been waiting for. The six of us together

966
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: have helped change the face of American family driver. The

967
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: other thing I liked about this is I believe Poses

968
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: a Ryan Murphy's show and there's a because I think

969
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: he's a white dude, a straight white dude. I know

970
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: there's always there's never a shortage of people willing to

971
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: be like, man, fuck that person or whatever. But Ryan

972
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: Murphy seems to have empowered the cast to tell their

973
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 2: own story. And this is not the first time he's

974
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: done something like that where he's like shown up, put

975
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: his name on something, and then it was like, okay

976
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: for American hart story. Ladies, take care of it. You

977
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: know you guys got It's George show.

978
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: Now. All I did was executive produced.

979
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: I put my face up front, so the shit to

980
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: get green leads.

981
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: And I've never heard the people who work with him

982
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: come out and be like, yeah, he's a piece of shit.

983
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: He treated us bad, like everybody's like, no, he makes

984
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: a great fucking he's a great ally.

985
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: He does great work.

986
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: He empowers us, he teaches us to he gives us

987
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: the tools to make our own shit, so that.

988
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: Eventually will go.

989
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: So I think people are people coming Ryan Murphy in

990
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: a way that I think is unfair, at least the

991
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: people I see, they come at him a bit unfair

992
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: simply based on the moniker. Well, he's a white man,

993
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: so we can you know, we get to say anything

994
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: about white man. It's like, so he can't do a

995
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: good job and be a white man. What if he's

996
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: just doing the things that y'all would want him to

997
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: do with that position of power, Like we can't say

998
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: that that was.

999
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: Cool, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's being the

1000
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: Oh he's.

1001
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Gay according to right in the chat. So and he's gay,

1002
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: so that's even less of a reason to hate him.

1003
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: Okay, here out here being gay ain't helping you blacks.

1004
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: Jesus being an ally y'all claim y'all won't.

1005
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Good craeve, what more do you want?

1006
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: The man's out here sacrificing everything for you motherfuckers.

1007
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: But Ron Murcury making some good ass shows though.

1008
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: Anyway, speaking of good ass shows during the pandemic, Conservatives

1009
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: of protests and the gay Ducks on Disney's Ducktails.

1010
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: Oh it's gay ducks on Ducktails. I didn't know that.

1011
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Mm hm oh I watched Ducktails.

1012
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's your jam. Yeah they did it again

1013
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: on uh the Disney the Disney Channel or whatever it's

1014
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: called now it's like a reboot. Yeah, it might be

1015
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: on Disney Plus too. If you guys got Disney Plus.

1016
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: But I watched them all. I fucking love duct Tails.

1017
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: It's shit is good way before the gate ducks. Even

1018
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: it was good, by the way, just in case y'all wonder.

1019
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: But my thing is.

1020
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: One these niggas was barely in the fucking thing.

1021
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: Like I said, I watched the show so like it

1022
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: was near the end after I think the little girl's

1023
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: name was Violent her and like Hueie or you know,

1024
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: one of the triplets was like trying to be the

1025
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: best day version of like boy Scouts.

1026
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 5: I remember seeing that episode in the background.

1027
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And so at the end, like the lesson

1028
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: that he learned was essentially he wasn't the best of

1029
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: the scouts. She was better than him, and he needed

1030
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: to learn to be okay with that, cause his whole

1031
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: thing was like I'm a boy, I'm better, I'm a win.

1032
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: And then he gets to the end it's like, nah,

1033
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: she better and she got more badges than me, and

1034
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: I forget which bag I think. Oh, and the badget

1035
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: that he got at the end was the badge for

1036
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: a failing. It was like, you know, trying to feeling

1037
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: is also worth a worthy thing, So don't you know,

1038
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 2: don't knock yourself too hard. So that's what say the say.

1039
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: Let's say the whole episode is twenty two minutes. That's

1040
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 2: at twenty two minutes and forty five seconds, y'all, that's

1041
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: when he learns the lesson. And then the two dads

1042
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: come out and they're like, foally, you did it, and

1043
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: they got to they got on shirts and the shirts

1044
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: say both of the shirts say I'm with dad, all right,

1045
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like they was in this shit for

1046
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: an hour. They was in it for the last fifteen

1047
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 2: seconds of the fucking thing.

1048
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: And these nigga's mad keep in Marland. These fucking ducks

1049
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: have robot ducks. Yeah, they't no superhero ducks villain ducks.

1050
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: So you're not worried about your kid being nothing on

1051
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: the show, but gay of all the kind of ducks

1052
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: which ducks is out there and shit know like what

1053
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: like they're they're like, I don't care if my kid

1054
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: wants to put on a robo duck outfit and fight crime.

1055
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care.

1056
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: He might want to be a cyber duck and try

1057
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 2: to fly off the top of the building and kill itself.

1058
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't care. But if he gonna be see some

1059
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: gay ducks, what's he gonna do next?

1060
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: He gonna be out here trying to I don't even

1061
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: care if he tries to have sex with a duck,

1062
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: but not the same sex with a duck. I know

1063
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 2: that much like it's the fucking duck, it's fucking cartoon ducks.

1064
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: Man. I honestly feel like the agenda is for.

1065
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: Gay for gay people to not exist. Yes, so here

1066
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: is so all right, I'm gonna take off mute. You

1067
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: can see it in the chat. Yes, okay, it's forty y'all.

1068
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm not jogging.

1069
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: This is the end of the episode. This clip is

1070
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: a minute and twenty one seconds long. This is the

1071
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: forty fifth second that I'm playing.

1072
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: No Welcome the Newest Senior Woodchuck, Violet Appolonia saber Wing.

1073
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was about seventeen seconds or whatever rights.

1074
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: Were land An imported lesson today and then shut his

1075
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: naughts always about that.

1076
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: That was that was it?

1077
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we they just walked on stage. Yes, Behinda, you

1078
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: in the two bed, you ain't paying attention. You wouldn't

1079
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: even realize the shirts.

1080
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: That that so of course they of course that that's

1081
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: our ratus. The kids came. The ten seconds of gay

1082
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: duck shirts has has completely changed everything for the children.

1083
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: Miss is up at one million moms director, which probably

1084
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: has about three moms in it. Monica Cole goes on

1085
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: to accuse Disney of indoctrinating children by exposing it.

1086
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1087
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, indoctrinating children by exposing them to homosexual relationships through

1088
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: a facade of normalcy. If anyone still has any doubt

1089
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: on where Disney stands on this controversial issue, hopefully this

1090
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: makes it clear that there is an LGBTQ agenda they

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00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: are forcing on young audiences. She goes on the top

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Speaker 2: to say to Disney CEO Bob Chapack that conservatives will

1093
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: not watch duct tails nor support this company as long

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Speaker 2: as the network veals away from family friendly entertainment, and

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: that how they get you, because apparently gay people are

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00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: not part of families, apparently or friendly. They are very

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00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: anti family, aggressive, anti friendly, just mean anti against families

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Speaker 2: and mean motherfuckers.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, for sure you do the gays in

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Speaker 1: the shirt. Shall That's how they get you. Every time

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: you're looking at duck tails. Next thing you know, your

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: sucking duck. Sorry, my bad that was that was out

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: of correct. That was out of correct.

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00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: Black gay ex police officer claims homophobia and racism is

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Speaker 2: a cancer in the force.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, I should know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: Mmm.

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Speaker 2: I mean he wrote a book on it, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I you do know what to say.

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01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: I think we're all shocked here.

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Speaker 2: Guys are just breaking news that the cops don't just

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01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: have a race problem, but a homophobia problem.

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Speaker 1: Guys. Okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: He said it's too ingrained in the police force for

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Speaker 2: any change to take place.

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Speaker 1: Yep. He has a book he called uh.

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Speaker 2: The book he wrote recently called forced Out about the

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Speaker 2: homophobic and racist abuse he endured while working as a

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Speaker 2: police officer. I think it's too ingrained, and I doubt

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Speaker 2: it what change in my lifetime, said Maxwell. They talked

1122
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: to talk, but there's no real punishment for misbehavior. I'm

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01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: not gonna finish. I'm not gonna sell tribe by finishing

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01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: reading this. But we knew, we being knew.

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Speaker 4: All them and phobias and schisms all connected.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: Transgend the fire chief files discrimination She suit over firing

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Speaker 2: a transgender.

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Speaker 1: Fire chief is fire.

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Speaker 2: The federal demiscrimination lawsuit against the small Georgia city where

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Speaker 2: she led the fire department for more than a decade,

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Speaker 2: then was fired eighteen months after she began coming to

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Speaker 2: work as a woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how that we do the like you know,

1135
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: these are the heroes, the first responders. We have to

1136
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: protect them. Every night at seven o'clock we stand in

1137
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: applaud and chair for them. And at the same time

1138
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: it's like this, nigga, what it's fire man? You are gone,

1139
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, like just so easily dismissed ignorance.

1140
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Speaker 2: Rachel Moseby says her firing last summer about the city

1141
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: of Barron not only cost her wages and retirement benefits,

1142
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: but also tarnished her reputation. The lawsuit foul Tuesday in

1143
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: the US District Court will make you know what I

1144
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: just thought, what.

1145
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Speaker 1: Judge is gonna take it?

1146
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 7: Right?

1147
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be one of these Trump judges put

1148
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: in some of these federal courts people have put out

1149
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: society in so much jeopardy with these fucking judge, Like

1150
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: letting this asshole get the pick. Who's gonna be the

1151
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: judge who knows what these trials are gonna go? You know,

1152
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: stuff that you used to feel like, man, this is

1153
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: fucked up. But at least I know at some point

1154
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: a court will give this person justice if they fight

1155
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: long enough. Yep, you cannot feel that way at all anymore.

1156
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Speaker 3: Even if they go to the Supreme Court.

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: Either they right talk about it, which which means you're

1158
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 4: gonna push you back down to whatever the lord courts decide,

1159
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 4: or either they're gonna decide against it.

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Speaker 2: Why no under Jeff Sessions, and I don't know if

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01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: it's the same under bar but they was like, we're

1162
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: not even gonna attempt to defend these cases where we're

1163
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: trying to stop discrimination against LGBTQ people.

1164
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Speaker 1: That's over.

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01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: We're done with that. So you know, you don't have

1166
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: the government coming to help you. And if anything, that's

1167
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: stripping laws and rules and regulations away so that people

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Speaker 2: can be discriminated against.

1169
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Speaker 4: So yeah, what it to be discriminated against and there's

1170
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 4: no repercussions.

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there'll be no justice for you, like Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: Right, And the thing is this right here is a

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Speaker 4: part of that make America great. I want my contact,

1174
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: my country back. Shit did Donald Trump campaign on? And

1175
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 4: you know it's one of those things when people was like, hey,

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01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 4: this this includes everybody that's not a straight white man,

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01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 4: and people did do want to hitting people that was

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01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 4: coming out from all groups going a everybody's going to

1179
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: be excluded except.

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Speaker 3: For that group of people.

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has treated LGBT based

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Speaker 2: drive discrimination cases as a legal sex discrimination, says twenty thirteen.

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: That's not that long ago.

1184
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: That could end if this US Supreme Court decides firings

1185
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: and harassment based on work or sexual orientation or gender

1186
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: identity don't qualify sex discrimination under the Civil Rights Act.

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court her cases on that issue October eighth.

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Speaker 1: Is ruling and still pending.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like from the highest court in the land,

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: we could literally rob this woman.

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01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: Of any sense of justice, you know.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, man, this is one of those things where

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously, I know the people that listen to

1194
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: our show mostly you know, pro LGBTQ or whatnot. But

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Speaker 2: let's say you weren't for a second. Let's say you

1196
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Speaker 2: just were like I don't even care or whatever, I

1197
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: don't you know, Fuck that, Okay, But then how would

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Speaker 2: you justify someone who can do the job being discriminated against?

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Speaker 2: And losing the job based on this, Like when you

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Speaker 2: feel that that's still a fair even if you said

1201
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't agree with blah blah blah. You know, like

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: even if you had that level of homophobia transphobia.

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01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: Within you, wouldn't it wouldn't it still.

1204
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: Be an injustice even despite all that. Like it's crazy,

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I meanway last one boy George, no boy George.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I do know that white man.

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01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: Boy George is wanted to let a little thing like

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01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: a global pandemic stop him from being on the wrong

1210
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Speaker 2: side of history.

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Speaker 1: In a new interview with Britain's The Sunday Times, the.

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Speaker 2: Former Culture Club singer returned to its familiar criticism of

1213
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: modern pronoun usage, a favorite topic of George's. He claims

1214
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: that transgender and non binary people who ask to be

1215
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: referred to by pronouns that are consistent with their identities

1216
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: want to be offended because they think that whatever's going

1217
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: on for them is much more important than anything else.

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01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: When I was growing up, nobody used the term transgender

1219
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: because it was almost like a medical term.

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Speaker 1: He told the conservative leaning newspaper.

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Speaker 2: So this transgender thing is new and for our generation

1222
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: it's just getting our heads around it. George, whose Androgenis

1223
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: appearance made him a queer icon in the mid nineteen eighties,

1224
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: added that he is reluctant to pander to others ideas

1225
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: about gender because.

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Speaker 1: Of what he went through to be who he is.

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Speaker 2: The area we would get into trouble is that it's

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Speaker 2: permissible to say to a gay person, address me as

1229
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: this address me is, that, he said. The comments are

1230
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: particularly ill timed given that the UK government is currently

1231
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: flowing idea of banning medical transitions for trans and non

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Speaker 2: boundary children under the age of eighteen, but that they

1233
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: are nothing new for George. Earlier this year, the musician

1234
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: caused controversy on Twitter after referring to individual's pronoun prefaces

1235
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: is merely a modern form of attention seeking, boy George

1236
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: talking about somebody seeking some fucking attention?

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: What what, boy George? Y'all just out here trying to

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01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: get some attention.

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: I would never in my sequin sparkling dress that I

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: sing that I'm gonna sing and my head see the

1241
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: color of the rainbow.

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I was only on MTV, you know.

1243
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: I only made a career off of this full off

1244
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 4: of a such attention seeking.

1245
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: Right face beat to the gods. I was in.

1246
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: I made a career off of this. But you know,

1247
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: you motherfuckers, y'all trying too much. Leave your pronouns at

1248
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: the door. George tweeted, George, you really like told us

1249
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: how to address you in your name? You added boy

1250
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: to it. Your name is just George. You literally was like,

1251
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: call me boy, George. Okay, I want to be called

1252
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: a boy. Okay? Maybe what the fuck?

1253
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: When his followers was their disappointment as someone who's gender

1254
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: expansive persona have been formatted for many trans and non

1255
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: barrier been formative for many trans and non bindary people

1256
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: would expressed such views, George doubled down. He suggested that

1257
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: being referred to in a manner that corresponds with one

1258
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 1: sense of self is just as ridiculous as someone calling

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: him Napoleon boy George.

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Speaker 2: He's denied, however, that he is transphobic. Well, I mean

1261
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: that's part of the course. Nobody's racist, nobody's you know,

1262
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: nobody's any of these things. I mean, if you ever asked,

1263
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: like George he's racist, He's gonna tell you no, right

1264
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: if you ask, fucking strong thermin if he's racis to

1265
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: tell you he's.

1266
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: No, you know, in hell?

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01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: Where's at Probably the black part of Hell, because that,

1268
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: you know, that would be his Hell.

1269
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: He'd be double Hell, sent him to Negro Hell.

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 2: He's like, no, this is exactly what I didn't want, uh, Georgia,

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: he said. A statement provided to Pink News earlier this year,

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Speaker 2: the representative said, asking whether boy George is transphobic is

1273
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 2: so stupid.

1274
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't want a response. I tell you are boy

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01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: to my was his other response.

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01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing I keep thinking about though. This

1277
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: is two things here. One is fucked up that he's

1278
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 2: so iconic to so many trans people, and then he

1279
01:08:54,680 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 2: is rejecting that and rejecting them essentially, and.

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Speaker 1: At a cost of nothing.

1281
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 2: It costs you nothing to recognize somebody's pronouns, Like maybe

1282
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: you won't be the best at it, maybe you'll forget,

1283
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: maybe you'll fuck up, But that's life, right, you know

1284
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, I've had to accept that,

1285
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: like there's people that you know, we know that are trans,

1286
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: non binary, stuff like that, and you know, hopefully know

1287
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 2: my heart is gonna always be in the right place,

1288
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to undo fucking forty something years of

1289
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: programming of gender is binary and.

1290
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: All this shit.

1291
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: That's a hard thing to bring.

1292
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this I.

1293
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: Think, and I think this isn't just boy George. It's

1294
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people people listening to this right now.

1295
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: There's this idea that because someone is advocating for themselves,

1296
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: that they're waiting for you to fuck up and not

1297
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: be perfect. And so why even try? You know, because

1298
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: I may refer this person as she, I may refer

1299
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 2: this person as he, and I'm a fuck up and

1300
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: I've made a mistake now and I'm not perfect, and

1301
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: I didn't do the thing. I didn't pass the test

1302
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 2: with flying colors. So I'm not even gonna attempt to try.

1303
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm scared I'm gonna fuck up, So no, I will not.

1304
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just do what I always been doing. But

1305
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: why be that asshole? You know, it's so much easier

1306
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: to just to like, I can respect the attempt to try.

1307
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: I can't respect the lack of attempt. You know, it

1308
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: doesn't cost you nothing. The other thing I kept thinking

1309
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 2: about too, and this is something I've heard the.

1310
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: Other gay males say.

1311
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 2: But maybe it also there may be lesbian women that

1312
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: say it as well. I don't know, but I've definitely

1313
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: heard gay males say is like, what about the struggles

1314
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: of the.

1315
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: Gay movement before now?

1316
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: And now you got trans people and the gender queer

1317
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: people and non binary people taking advantage of what we did.

1318
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 2: This is our work, and we feel like we feel

1319
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 2: like you asking us to do more if I do more.

1320
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: We're not talking protests, we're not talking activism. Just literally

1321
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: recognize our pronouns by doing more. By asking us to

1322
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: do more, you're essentially insulting the work we've already done.

1323
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: And I find that to be the weirdest fucking argument.

1324
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because I'm black, I don't know, but

1325
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: it to meet us like if Al Sharpton was like,

1326
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 2: y'all black lives matter people really asking for a lot,

1327
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: like no, you gotta you can't be the person that

1328
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 2: asked everybody to push your shit made everyone uncomfortable and

1329
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: then go, okay, but now you asking me to progress,

1330
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,919
Speaker 2: and that's making me uncomfortable, So fuck progress.

1331
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: And the thing is they've always been there, the fuck

1332
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 4: like they have always been there.

1333
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also like we made it far enough.

1334
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 4: Right now, and that's the shit to make the manoralized

1335
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 4: people within a moginalized group go within fuck you.

1336
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: It's it's the Dave Chappelle joke about the LGBTQ group

1337
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: and they're all in the car and how you know,

1338
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: they put the trans people in the back, and they

1339
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: treat the bay people and the and the non binary people,

1340
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: they treat them fucked up like because essentially it's like, no,

1341
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: the gays are driving, like we got this ship up front,

1342
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: we're telling you where to go.

1343
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: And that was such a brilliant joke. Wish it didn't

1344
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: come from a transphobo Gas comedian, but it's a brilliant

1345
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: fucking joke because that really is the analogy that sums

1346
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: it up perfectly with the like we're like, yeah, we

1347
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: did all this work, but not for you to use it,

1348
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: not for you, Like that's that's that's insane.

1349
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: But yep, boy, George, who would have known? I really

1350
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: didn't know that that's I don't know, that's just crazy.

1351
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: I guess it's how people feel they look at dominant silk.

1352
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 2: It's like you niggas is ain't all black you, but

1353
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: y'all are definitely within the group of people that are

1354
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: bad blacks.

1355
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 3: Right, And.

1356
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 4: The thing about boy George, even before I understood LGBTQ

1357
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: or any of that stuff, I was introduced to him

1358
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 4: right like like for me, it was kind of the

1359
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: first dip into that world, if that makes sense for

1360
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 4: me personally.

1361
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that's just that's just really a fucking shame. That's

1362
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: all I got for that.

1363
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: Wow. All right, let's move into something else. Let's see

1364
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: what else can we talk about. I think I'm gonna.

1365
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 2: Skip coronavirus for today, Okay, and uh, we'll go to

1366
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 2: some other news.

1367
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: Oh.

1368
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 2: I already brought this up, but Bessie de Vos released

1369
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: the final changes to campus sexual assault policies.

1370
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: Under the rework federal rules, alleged student perpetrators will have

1372
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: added protections, including the presumption that they are innocent throughout

1373
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: the disciplinary process and the right to be provided all

1374
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: evidence collected against them. Those students can also cross examine

1375
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 2: their accusers, although it may it must be done to

1376
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: a lawyer representative. The rules going to effect August fourteenth.

1377
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: The Department of Education changes are reworking under nineteen seventy

1378
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: two law known as Title nine, which for him his

1379
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: gender discrimination including sexual assault on college campuses.

1380
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: As well as in primary and secondary schools.

1381
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: Under the Obama administration, the definition of sexual harassment was

1382
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: less specific, described as an unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature,

1383
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: but the meaning has become narrower. The misconduct must fall

1384
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 2: under certain categories, including unwelcome conduct that is so severe, pervasive,

1385
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 2: and objectively offensive that it denies a person equal access

1386
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: to the school's education programm or activity.

1387
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, what that difference?

1388
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: Doesn't it make sense?

1389
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: The new rules also include allegations of stalking, domestic violence,

1390
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: and dating violence must be investigated. Schools are still able

1391
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: to set their own standards approved for whether it's violated the.

1392
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: Code of Conduct policy.

1393
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: In March, three Democrats Senators Christian Kristen Gillibred of New

1394
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: York or Patty Murray Washington, elizab Warner, mass She just

1395
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: wrote a letter to Devorce asking her to delay the

1396
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: form formalizing the guidelines, which they consider misguided and if

1397
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: Stad focused on helping schools and students navigate through the

1398
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

1399
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 3: Oh, she don't give a fuck about that.

1400
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't a priority at all.

1401
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: They don't even care them kids get coronavirus they're just

1402
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: out here trying to this shit passed.

1403
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 3: They don't care about.

1404
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 4: The schools open, the backup and your kids getting sick

1405
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 4: because and maybe this is just me. I my prediction

1406
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: is that a lot of colleges are gonna suffer after

1407
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 4: the coronavirus thing because a lot of people are like,

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01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sending my kids back to school. A lot

1409
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 4: of college camps are gonna do shit online. A lot

1410
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 4: of you know, people are gonna withdraw.

1411
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 3: From the universities.

1412
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 4: So you're gonna end up in the long run hurting

1413
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 4: these universities because as far as Besti's devorce is concerned,

1414
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 4: she don't actually give a fuck about.

1415
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 3: The organization that she's over.

1416
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: Eighteen state attorney generals also wrote a similar letter. The

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01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: attention on how to address sexual assault on college campuses

1419
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: comes amid the larger Me Too movement, focusing on claims

1420
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: and sexual misconduct that might otherwise be ignored.

1421
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: Advocates for a man, but this is the thing.

1422
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: You always knew there was a fucking time living on

1423
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: the Me too movement, Like and there's not. The me

1424
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: too movement is such a weird thing to say, because

1425
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: I mean, one you need to acknowledge the power of

1426
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 2: it and all that stuff, like it's actually a moment

1427
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: and stuff. But it's like from inception it was almost

1428
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: seen as this is a moment that will pass. It's

1429
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: like we will go back to the default. Yeah, it's

1430
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: like everyone was kind of saying. It's like even the

1431
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: people advocating it are kind of unfortunately. It's like you're admitting, like,

1432
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: and this will not be a thing that we can sustain.

1433
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: So we got to get everything in why we can.

1434
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: I think that's why people got to the point where,

1435
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: you know, even if you know it, didn't give a

1436
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: fuck what you did, you was a going on the

1437
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: summer Jam screen. Cause it's like, I literally may never

1438
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: ever get a chance to tell this story and be

1439
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 2: heard again. So yeah, this nigga one time got handsy

1440
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: with me on a date. I put it on the

1441
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 2: public record, you know what I mean. Because it's not

1442
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: like all this shit is going to trial, people going

1443
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: to jail, any of this shit. Some people might lose

1444
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: a job or two or something. Extreme extreme cases go

1445
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: to jail. Extreme cases, maybe you.

1446
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,799
Speaker 1: Lose a lot of jobs.

1447
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 2: But for the most part, it's just like it always

1448
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: felt like there was a ticking thing. And part of

1449
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: the reason it felt like it was ticking to me

1450
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: is that the fucking sexual harassment in chief is Donald Trump,

1451
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, and the people he surrounded himself with and

1452
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: the people who are in charge of the country right

1453
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: now all don't give a fuck about this.

1454
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: If anything, they care.

1455
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: The opposite people didn't keep that momentum going, you know.

1456
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 1: So it's just sad.

1457
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: But advocates for a Q students have argued that some

1458
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: of the guy that's under the Obama administration was to

1459
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: lose an unfed or alleged perpetrators proper to devoce to

1460
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 2: rescind his measure, and pledge that the Education Department would

1461
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: embark on workable, effectible woulmbark on a workable, effective and

1462
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: fair system. But groups advocating for sexual assault victims word

1463
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: that the changes will have a chilling effect on students

1464
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: coming forward if they feel uncomfortable with how they must

1465
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: report an a ledge assault or worried about getting retraumatized.

1466
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: Once school officials are made aware of an allegation, it

1467
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: must be taken seriously, okay, said the guidelines. It's just

1468
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: weird too, because the other problem is it's not like

1469
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: this was an easy process before the changes. Correct, It's

1470
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: not like that was the problem. It's too easy to

1471
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: accuse people of rape. If you can't even fucking go

1472
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: three steps, it's just rape, rat rape. Everybody's on the

1473
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 2: campus getting acused of right, Like, it wasn't even like that,

1474
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: But you know, that's that's the fear that they try

1475
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: to put out there to society, like every it's like

1476
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: every boy in the class is accused of it, and

1477
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: they we just couldn't take it no more true. So, yeah,

1478
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 2: we'll see what happened with these rules and whatnot. And also,

1479
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: more importantly than even the changes to the rules, I

1480
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: would like to know the changes to the budget come on,

1481
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: because the thing that they normally do is gut the

1482
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: fucking budget, so that even if you keep the rules

1483
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: and you need to investigate this, you ain't got the

1484
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: money to investigate the shit you're supposed to be doing.

1485
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what else happened. Oh yeah, murder

1486
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: hornets is a thing now, Yeah.

1487
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 3: I've been seeing that shit. So who has been walking

1488
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 3: up in the be nest like niggas? I'm murdering everybody?

1489
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1490
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know why they call them murder hornets,

1491
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 2: although I did see a picture of something that is

1492
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: a huge.

1493
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that's huge. Yes, they're they're very big hornets.

1494
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: But the one the picture I saw was a white

1495
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: person holding four of them in the palm.

1496
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: Of their hand. And they were huge, obviously, but they

1497
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: were also all black.

1498
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: Now, the other pictures I've seen on them of them,

1499
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: a lot of them are being yellow and black, but

1500
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 2: the one that dude had, they was just all black.

1501
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then I see why they

1502
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: named the murder hornets. Okay, because of racism. That's how

1503
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 2: they do us. Okay, they always got.

1504
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: Some reason to say that. I don't know, Karen, Please

1505
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: don't step on the bits.

1506
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1507
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: They were like, these hornets are murderous bbs.

1508
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: They got big black stingers going hanging from them, and

1509
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: they go out here to trying to attack our precious

1510
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: little honey bees, and we need to those Those could

1511
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: have been innocent hornets. They might not even have did

1512
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with the whole Then white people called them

1513
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 2: off fucking murderers. Okay, we don't do this the other

1514
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: insects and the speed we don't call larceny roaches. We

1515
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 2: don't say, oh, look at this assault and battery ants.

1516
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: All these motherfucker's right here, the grand theft grasshopperers out

1517
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: here doing shit.

1518
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: We only do this the black animals.

1519
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: Okay, not to get too woke on y'all, but polar

1520
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: bears are actually the most dangerous bears. But you wouldn't

1521
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: know that because they being what all them Coca Cola

1522
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: ads every Christmas.

1523
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 3: Well, Chris got a land Charks.

1524
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: Because they white. Okay.

1525
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the white man says the black bear is the

1526
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: most dangerous bear, and the brown bear. They didn't even

1527
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: let them call them brown bears. They renamed them to

1528
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 2: grizzly bears. They renamed them after a horrendous murder scene.

1529
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: But they not ready to talk about that.

1530
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're third out wide open talk about me.

1531
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

1532
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to let to

1533
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: inform the audience caring of the trickeration of the white

1534
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 2: man that is going on right now. Okay, I'm just saying,

1535
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 2: it's a lot of the gritted.

1536
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: These things just took over a lot of motherfuckers out

1537
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: here slipping on what they doing to us. Okay, I

1538
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: don't think these hornets murdered.

1539
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: Anybody you learn, I would like to see them get

1540
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: a fair trial.

1541
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: How come every time I see the hornets they dead? Okay,

1542
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: nobody that Okay, they kill the hornets and then they.

1543
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 3: Frame Now monthery hornings lives don't matter.

1544
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: The white man is probably the one killing the bees

1545
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 2: and then framing the poor little innocent black hornets.

1546
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: They just want to live their life.

1547
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 3: Lock them up.

1548
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 2: They just out doing normal shit, okay, going to the store,

1549
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: getting driving home?

1550
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: They oh, why are you pulling me over? Officers? Oh,

1551
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: I didn't you know how fast you was going on it?

1552
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Take them to jail.

1553
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: There's a Monday nice car for a hornet.

1554
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 4: It stars with murdering and then they thing, you know

1555
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 4: you're riving me.

1556
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: I'm good.

1557
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: So now this is a mighty nice car for a

1558
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 1: horned to be driving. You you you sell drugs? What

1559
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of what kind of what kind of horned job

1560
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: you got? Did you able to push a whip like this?

1561
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: You sent that? You sent a honey in the community,

1562
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: don't Something.

1563
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: Is up with this and we need people to look

1564
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: further and look past the name they want you to think.

1565
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: They murderous. Okay, there are people has off Nigga.

1566
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 3: Yes, they moderists.

1567
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: You know who else they said this about.

1568
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: When Donald Trump came down the stairs, What did he

1569
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: tell you?

1570
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1571
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: He said that Mexicans was rapists and murderers. And what

1572
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: are they telling us about the Asian? You know, that's

1573
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: how they could put the Asian on that, the.

1574
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: Asian murder hornets?

1575
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: How do we get the Asian?

1576
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: I just thought that was moderists, right, because you fell

1577
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: for the propaganda, Karen, because you always following, for the following.

1578
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: For this bulls.

1579
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't care what race, the pure black hornet, I

1580
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 3: don't care what lgbt Q. I don't care through them

1581
01:23:58,360 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 3: in jail.

1582
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: The pure Asiatic black hornet comes to America, just trying

1583
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: to get the same opportunities all the other immigrated insects got.

1584
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: We didn't care how cockroaches got here.

1585
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: We don't call them names.

1586
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: Okay, you got cockroaches all throughout New York and nobody

1587
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: says not a word.

1588
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

1589
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: They just on the trains right now, look xuriating because

1590
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: all the humans is inside. They made a show about cockroaches. Joe,

1591
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: they called it Joe's apartment. I never saw Joe, but

1592
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 2: I saw them roaches. It was roach's apartment, and they

1593
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: let that be on TV.

1594
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: Y'all. The mascot for Cheerios is what a honeybee?

1595
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: Yes, you see what I'm saying. A nice clean honeybee.

1596
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: Fall for that propaganda if you want to sister a nice, clean,

1597
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: well spoken honeybee.

1598
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: I stand with the black murder hornets.

1599
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 4: Okay, like somebody saying a yellow bee, not them black bees.

1600
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: Murder hornets lives matter, you know, they don't. Not in

1601
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: my book, they matter to me.

1602
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 3: They don't matter to me.

1603
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: I might give me a couple of Let them sit

1604
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: out there on my balcony. They okay, the hell you will.

1605
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of them.

1606
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: I am do that if you want to.

1607
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 1: I go out there, and I'll be the murderer.

1608
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: As soon as a black person start defitting themselves, all

1609
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're a murderer, I bet you wild

1610
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: self defense. The bees probably fucking with them hornets.

1611
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: Hot is just minding their business.

1612
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: He's come over there like, oh, what you doing jogging

1613
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: in my neighborhood.

1614
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh oh, we just got some bee shotguns out here.

1615
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, I'm the one in trouble.

1616
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 3: You mess with me, it'd be a black on black

1617
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 3: crime because I'm taking you out.

1618
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 1: M m m hmmmm. I don't.

1619
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 3: Bad enough. You got murdering your name. I'm not gonna wait.

1620
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: To be the next victim you follow for the propagaind

1621
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 2: I guess trayvon Martin is the murderer to the Tradevon

1622
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 2: Martin the murderer.

1623
01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: Is that what you think too?

1624
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: Because that's the day said. That's what they say about us.

1625
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: That's what they say about us. They call them a

1626
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: big black murder black.

1627
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 3: Call him a big black hornet.

1628
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 2: Oh so if they say hornet, it'll be okay to

1629
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: kill him. That's that's so, that's okay. They just taking

1630
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: our lives and you part of it. I know he

1631
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 2: was gonna turn the dominant silk on this.

1632
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,759
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry I failed for the honey trap.

1633
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Apparently you did.

1634
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: What if God is providing us a solution to a

1635
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: problem that we have. No one's thought about this, Well

1636
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: I have. Okay, So let's say they are murder hornets. Okay,

1637
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: let's say they really do kill forty people a year

1638
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1639
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: Come on, murder Jesus.

1640
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: Christ, let me do the joke. Please, let's say that

1641
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: that is what's happening. Why are we looking at this

1642
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: as a negative. I feel like we have another problem

1643
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: we need to solve that could be solved by murder

1644
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: hornets and these is fucking reopen rallies.

1645
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: How about we invite the murder hornets to the rallies.

1646
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: Okay, just just let them get out there and mingle

1647
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: with the coronavirus. Gun told motherfuckers, it's just let now

1648
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 2: we got two problems solving themselves. Okay, you got the

1649
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 2: white people with guns taking their ass inside the house

1650
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: like they're supposed to be a.

1651
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 3: Double a double homicide.

1652
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 4: They they gonna get They're gonna team up, and it's

1653
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna be a real problem.

1654
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm over here trying to come up with fucking solutions.

1655
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: You we prayed to God for a solution and he

1656
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: sent us murder hornets, and you stupid motherfuckers are about

1657
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: to let them die out.

1658
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna try to kill them and run away. No,

1659
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: they even went to the right parts of the country,

1660
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: the Northwest.

1661
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, take them, white people, get them back

1662
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: in the house, send their ass over there. How can

1663
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 2: we get some to some of these Saint Louis. We

1664
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: need some Michigan murder hornets. We need to get they

1665
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,520
Speaker 2: ass that these rallies immediately.

1666
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 4: Okay, you think as soon as they show up, the

1667
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 4: murder honings just come out to be blue.

1668
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm taking murder hornets to the beach, letting them, motherfucking

1669
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: let them get out and spread all over their ass.

1670
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: Just okay, okay, y'all think it's all good out here.

1671
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Y'all won't listen to the police.

1672
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Huh, you won't stay inside, huh huh, Maggiet this Maggi

1673
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: that let these hornets on your ass, and then we're

1674
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 2: gonna see how you feel about it.

1675
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, trying to solve problems all right.

1676
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 3: Side out taking the kind of personal because okay.

1677
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: I do that, Justin does it every week, So why

1678
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: not you.

1679
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, let's just get out of here, guys,

1680
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: Let's just go to guess the race. I feel like

1681
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: that was as much jokes as I fought to get

1682
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 2: that much jokes out.

1683
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 3: Killing the jokes. Ain't that like a one a joke killer.

1684
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: You're a murder murder joke killer, murder murder co host.

1685
01:28:53,000 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: I was killing it today, all right, let's do the

1686
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: guest the race.

1687
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Let me get the music up, uh, Spotify's movie slow.

1688
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,799
Speaker 1: All right, where's my guest? The race music?

1689
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 6: Now that it is time for some guests the race.

1690
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 6: That's right, it's guests. The race time. Now, that is

1691
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 6: time for some guests the race.

1692
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: That's right, it's guests.

1693
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 3: The race time.

1694
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: That's right, it's time for guests. The race, the number

1695
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: one game.

1696
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 2: So going across all the podcast, we read the play

1697
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: news arm all over the glow, and we asked our

1698
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 2: contests today Karen and the chat room to guess the race.

1699
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: And of course everyone playing is racist. All right, let's

1700
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: see who we're guessing today. Story number one sheriff woman

1701
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 2: tried the food deputies by pretending she weep inside the

1702
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: RV she allegedly broke into. Oh wow, okay, a woman

1703
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: suspected of burglarizing the RV parked on the shoulder of

1704
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 2: the highway, pretending like she was asleep to try to

1705
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 2: escape from deputies.

1706
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: Open up, how's it going over since the city to

1707
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: be the problem.

1708
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 5: To sleep for whole three hours?

1709
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyway, nothing to s a year, just taking

1710
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: a nap.

1711
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 2: This happened early Saturday morning, someone saw a person breaking

1712
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 2: into an RV that called the police. At the same

1713
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: deputy found the RV, which was for sale, had been

1714
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: broken into. A sergeant shine is lighting the big on

1715
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,480
Speaker 2: a woman's side, laid down on the sofa.

1716
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: And pretending like she was sleep So she wasn't laying down.

1717
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 1: When they first pulled up, they flashed the light and

1718
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: she was like, oh shit, it's light. Sleep sleep. It's

1719
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: like the opposite of roaches. De wuty say. The woman

1720
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: ignored commands to get out.

1721
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Because she was so sleepy, so with the hell of

1722
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: California Highway Patrol law enforcement officers moved it to get

1723
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: her out. The woman, later identified as thirty year old

1724
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: Sonora resident Elizabeth Cooper, allegedly spit in the sergeant's face

1725
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: after being handcuffed like a classic dame. Cooper was arrested

1726
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: and booked on several charges including burglary, tampering with a vehicle,

1727
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: battery of a peace officer. Karen, I guess the race

1728
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 2: of missus?

1729
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: What was it? Elizabeth Cooper? Oh?

1730
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 5: White?

1731
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Karen's going with a white. Let's check the chat

1732
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: room and see what you guys believe. Ever since the

1733
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: COVID man, it seemed like more these motherfuckers have been

1734
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: spitting on people. Come on, that's part for the course.

1735
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Let's see. R V Park is a nice way of

1736
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: saying Trayler Park white.

1737
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 6: Damn.

1738
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna cook here cook meth and here white

1739
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 2: spitting spitting like a pumpkin white, r V Jesse Pinkman

1740
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: and Walter White.

1741
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 1: Spill it spit sleeping beauty white.

1742
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 2: Uh uh, Dirace Dave White, Super Karen predator. Uh, blue

1743
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: lives matter unless I'm trying to get away from the

1744
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: r V theft white, sleeping beauty white, stay fair white

1745
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 2: spitting white. We still we don't spit. She was white white.

1746
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 2: Everyone went with white on this one, and everyone got

1747
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: it correct.

1748
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: Uh. You know, I just realized too.

1749
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: For somebody that's so pro oh yeah, just call him

1750
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 2: the murder hornets. You should definitely not not be on

1751
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 2: that side because your name is Karen, and Karen is

1752
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 2: the worst slur you can call somebody right now these days.

1753
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,520
Speaker 2: And you should know how it feels to be labeled unfairly.

1754
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: But I anyway, this.

1755
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 2: Is the white lady who all Karens, but not all

1756
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: murder hornets, all the ashag, not all murder hornets.

1757
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure not all of them could looking at them.

1758
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 3: It's in the motherfucking name, you are murderer, all right.

1759
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 2: So if Karen is in the motherfucking name, yeah, yeah,

1760
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: goddamn Karen acting like k right now. Just at our

1761
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: black hornets. No, I can't believe you would our poor

1762
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: black brothers.

1763
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 3: Now, you know, don't be coming in the man and

1764
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 3: to speak to a manager. Not all the time.

1765
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: This is the white lady by the way, looking like

1766
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: a Karen. She looks very sad that she got caught.

1767
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: She does, all right, Let's go to the next one. Uh.

1768
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Texas mayorologizes for violating a stay at home order in

1769
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: order to go to the Neil salon.

1770
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Mhm, you know what I'm saying. That probably why they

1771
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 3: were pushing for the com back up.

1772
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: You got Neil's dead hair? Did everything? Did she fancy? Huh?

1773
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: Beaumont Mayor Becky Ames has apologized over.

1774
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: The name has a I don't care what an interesting name.

1775
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: So it is Becky was the old Karen. Karen is

1776
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: the new Becky.

1777
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 5: A prayer of this sol but it's not murderous and

1778
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 5: none of that disagree.

1779
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 4: Uh, Becky and I know there are some victims that

1780
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 4: after we are murdering in with our comments.

1781
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 3: But that's a whole other thing.

1782
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Y'all, caarents be murdering people.

1783
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 2: Becky Mayor Becky Ains has apologized at the photo of

1784
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: her going to a closed salad made his rounds on

1785
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: social media.

1786
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: The fucking mayor wait.

1787
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: To be an example to the community, Ains violated her

1788
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 2: own stay at home order, the violation that sparked their

1789
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: investigation by district attorney.

1790
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: According to NBC News, Governor Mayor Governor Greg Abbott issued

1791
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: a stay at home order and closed all knowledge that

1792
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: your businesses, including nel salons. But on April second, she

1793
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't even wait that long.

1794
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 2: April second, Jesus Beaumont Mayor Ains had already issued a

1795
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 2: similar order for her city.

1796
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, that's when she issued the order.

1797
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: Okay, then cook cool, I'll get it a week earlier

1798
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 2: than the governor. On March twenty seventh, but someone caught

1799
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: the mayor in a photo taken at the Nail Bar

1800
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 2: in Beaumont last Tuesday, wearing a face mask as she

1801
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 2: seated at the table with her hands soaking in a bowl.

1802
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: The now infamous photo has brought out heavy criticism of

1803
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 2: Mayor Ains for disobeying her order in the midst of

1804
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 2: the coronavirus pandemic. Mayor Ams issued an apology on Thursday,

1805
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 2: calling her salon visit a lapse in judgment. I promised

1806
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 2: there was no malice intendency were in the statement. I

1807
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 2: should never have entered the salon last Thursday.

1808
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:05,759
Speaker 1: I did not.

1809
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: Intend to take a personal privilege while asking others sacrifice,

1810
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: and for that I am truly remorseful.

1811
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, how can you not mean? How is it even

1812
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: possible for that sentence to be true? Right? Like what

1813
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: would have to happen for that sentence to be true?

1814
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 2: I slept walk into a nail salon without my own knowledge,

1815
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: like I was forced that gunpoint into the nail salon.

1816
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: You literally you could only have meant to take advantage

1817
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 2: of a privilege that you told other people could they

1818
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: could not. There's not even another interpretation of the actions

1819
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 2: of this woman anyway, Karen, I guess the rights of

1820
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Mayor Becky.

1821
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Karen's going with white. Let's check the chat room and

1822
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: see what she believed. What they believe. Let's see almost

1823
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: got me with the nail salon? Is white? White?

1824
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 2: Uh, just a quick feeling white, white as selfish. May

1825
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 2: her complexion be her protection? White name is a giveaway

1826
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 2: to freedom white. The correct answer is wait, hold on

1827
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 2: a true Susan. According to Twitter, white used used to

1828
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 2: privileged white let's lee press on nails, white white French tips.

1829
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: The only black males are in Atlanta and DC. She' white?

1830
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: She got she got that called the manager haircut? White?

1831
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 2: The correct answer is Becky is white and I will

1832
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 2: get her picture on the screen in a second. But

1833
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 2: as you can see from the picture, guys, in addition

1834
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: to being a white, Becky is awesome. So a Karen,

1835
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 2: she definitely got the haircut.

1836
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying, you guy, she got she got that

1837
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 3: manager haircut.

1838
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's possible that Becky's husband is black. I

1839
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 2: don't know, but whatever color her husband is, she's definitely

1840
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 2: speaking to a manager.

1841
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, and she got the two tone color.

1842
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's speaking to a manager.

1843
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: You got to cut.

1844
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 2: She's like, also, I gotta keep my nails fresh. I

1845
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 2: gotta keep him dead for my husband Tyrone. And I

1846
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: don't wait on me to come back with this man

1847
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: that kill the great frudom Okay, I'm telling me what

1848
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: I gotta do.

1849
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: Keep my man. All right, let's go to the bonus round,

1850
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:57,759
Speaker 1: guys saying the RaSE that what a phone saying the race?

1851
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 2: That's right, double the points, don't race and the bonus

1852
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 2: trying to guess the race. So far, Caaren is a

1853
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 2: rare two for two. Let's see if she can go

1854
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 2: three for three.

1855
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's see you killing these the way he

1856
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: was killing my hornets. Jokes.

1857
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 2: Wow, this is I'm on a streak, murdering everything. Streak

1858
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: A murder Karen. Yes, that's that's that's the worst type

1859
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 2: of Karen. A Florida man allegedly tried to blame a

1860
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 2: weapons bust on John Wick, the legendary assassin played by

1861
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves and the opponent's movie franchise.

1862
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: According to a new report, cos.

1863
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 2: Confronted Geetro Gallon Geetro Gallon as port Saint Lucy Holmes

1864
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Sunday after a woman told Beliee he shoved her to

1865
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 2: the ground and threatened her with a firearm. Uh The

1866
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 2: woman told authorities Gallon may have stashed a weapon in

1867
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 2: a Porsche Suv. According to the report, cops searched the

1868
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: vick on final, a glock twenty one pistol, a semi

1869
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,799
Speaker 2: automatic rifle, and a bulletproof vest. When Cox asked Jellen

1870
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 2: Gellen to explain, he explained that the.

1871
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 1: SUV wasn't even his anymore. He sold it to his cousin,

1872
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 1: John Wick.

1873
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: He later admitted that the John Wick reference was alive,

1874
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 2: but would not reveal his cousin's name. Gellen was arrested

1875
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 2: for aggravated assault with a daily weapon and domestic battery.

1876
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: According to the report, He's being held a little thirty

1877
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars bond.

1878
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: Caring guests of jet it's either Jetro Gellen or Geetro

1879
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: Jeling Gellen. That name, Uh, it's sound Asian. That's what

1880
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with, Okay, So I asked how I

1881
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: spelled it. G E t r O is get Kean's

1882
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 1: cousin Asian. The day of the Geechee is over. Black.

1883
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 2: Uh, trying to act movies out in real life. White

1884
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 2: man Middle Eastern saying nigga black, says a j I'm

1885
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: going Hispanic, says Jane, Blasian says d Ramsey, trying to

1886
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 2: cheat Wick.

1887
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 1: White. So Hispanic white, all right, Carrien. You good over there.

1888
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: I think I am the name. Yes, some stick with it.

1889
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 2: You gotta stick What did you say Asian? Well, if

1890
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 2: you said Asian, you got it wrong.

1891
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 4: And if you said.

1892
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Anything but black, you got it wrong because he was black.

1893
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the equality where we can go around do

1894
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 3: shit and blame a white man. That's the equality.

1895
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: He said, John Wick, he must have really wanted to

1896
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: go to jail, right. Uh but yeah, that's him in Yeah,

1897
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: that's him in the picture there.

1898
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 2: And surprisingly I don't think he knows john Wick. I

1899
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: feel like, if you know John Wick, you either dead

1900
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,799
Speaker 2: or gonna get.

1901
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: Dead real quick. Oh that's a negro mm yep. Very

1902
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: controversial guest the race with that name.

1903
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I haven't had anything this controversial happened since So

1904
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: they all lost all that weight, guys, come on, and

1905
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 2: everybody was arguing on the internet about it.

1906
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.

1907
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 2: It's a real big argument on if you can say

1908
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 2: a celebrity losing weight is a good thing or not.

1909
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 3: So Oh, I don't care.

1910
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 4: All I know is, honey, she done got divorced in

1911
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 4: that album, gonna be flames.

1912
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: H Maybe maybe I was looking at her thing and

1913
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 2: she's looking a little too happy lately, so you know,

1914
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of that. Oh lord, It's

1915
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: like that time Eminem got off them drugs and I

1916
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 2: was like, the fuck are you doing?

1917
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 1: He ain't been the same since. Nigga's gonna live sober.

1918
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 2: I wanna live. I'm gonna get off the drugs for

1919
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: my child. Word, nigga, what about these albums? Sorry, anyway,

1920
01:43:51,200 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: let's get to the last thing. Guys, y'all heard Adell

1921
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 2: the Black Men. Now, so what if she just lost

1922
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 2: all that weight because she ain't wanna be a stereo type?

1923
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 1: You know how your niggas do.

1924
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 2: You never know if Skeptic whatever his name was, would

1925
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 2: have been dating a fat black white woman, y'all would

1926
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: have been talking about black men and all them stereotypes.

1927
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 2: Let's not act like it's not true. I know y'all

1928
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 2: thought that's what the murder hornets is doing. Oh they

1929
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: dating them fat bumble bees. I know how y'all get down.

1930
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 2: I know you think I don't hear anythink I don't

1931
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 2: got my ears to the street.

1932
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 3: The murders, bumba bees got babylan us.

1933
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: I know what y'all be saying about the black men. Okay,

1934
01:44:56,479 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm, I'm I'm hip. I have black women friends. Okay,

1935
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 2: I've heard the jokes. Adelle was under a lot of pressure.

1936
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want my man to be getting

1937
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 2: her assed. Okay anyway.

1938
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: Archer of Abbey Street, Carlile admitted possessing an offensive weapon

1939
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: in the public space and possessing cannabis. He was jailed

1940
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: for eight months.

1941
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 2: That's right, a Carlile sword thug told a stranger, I'm

1942
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 2: the hardest man in this street and that was what

1943
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 2: it just talking about, this venus. That's before he even

1944
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 2: got to the sword. He was jailed for eight months.

1945
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 2: During the skype video hearing before Carlile Crowd Court, prosecutor

1946
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 2: Kate Hammond said the defendant was walking through the grounds

1947
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 2: of Carlile Cathedro at three thirty pm on February seventeenth

1948
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: when he saw a man named Jason Irvine sitting beneath

1949
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 2: a stone archway. There was an argument. Archers asked the

1950
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: man what are you looking at? It was at this

1951
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 2: point the defendant claim he was the hardest man in

1952
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 2: the street. I mean, why did you ask him when

1953
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 2: he was looking at mister Irvin responded by swearing at him,

1954
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 2: what you looking at?

1955
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 4: You?

1956
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: And it's making me the hardest man in this street,

1957
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying? What if? That's how

1958
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: a minute I was flirting with this man and for

1959
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: some reason.

1960
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 2: He had to take it super to some he had

1961
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:24,799
Speaker 2: to take it to a violent place.

1962
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

1963
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 2: He was walking down the street looking all scrumptious, Okay, jogging,

1964
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 2: staying in shape.

1965
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1966
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:36,680
Speaker 2: He said, what you looking at And I said, I

1967
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 2: don't know, but right now I'm the hardest man in

1968
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 2: these streets. And the next thing you know, this man

1969
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 2: wanted to fight. It's like you can't even compliment a

1970
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 2: brother no more. He thought I was talking about. He said,

1971
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 2: is that a sword in your pocket? Or you just

1972
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: happy to see me? I said, well both, really it's

1973
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: a sword.

1974
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1975
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 2: So Archer went home and then later emerged from his

1976
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 2: Abbey Street home with a military style sword.

1977
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 3: Military style.

1978
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 2: I guess it was some hoghlander shit. I'm gonna prove

1979
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 2: who the hardest in these streets. Using two hands, he

1980
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: pointed aggressively at mister Irvine. He threatened him, pointed the

1981
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 2: sword directly at him, said missus, miss Hammond. After Archie

1982
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 2: put the sword down. Archie put the sword down, a

1983
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: fight broke out.

1984
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 1: Now why do you put the sword down? Not that

1985
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm not thankful, but right, what was the end of

1986
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: a Mark Wahlberg movie? Like, why the fuck would you

1987
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: put the sword down? Hey?

1988
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 2: How about this? You put that sword down and you

1989
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: fight me like a man by the failt one. That

1990
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: shit only works in the fucking movie like this. That

1991
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 2: shit never works in real Like, wow, I can't believe

1992
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:47,719
Speaker 2: that worked.

1993
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you the hardest man in the street.

1994
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: Huh, why don't you put that sword down and we'll

1995
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 2: settle this like some gentle men. Okay, you think about

1996
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 2: a sword to some hands fight and really put the

1997
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 2: sword down and said, okay, it's a handspike. My bad

1998
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,839
Speaker 2: over prepared. The two men were separated by concerned customers

1999
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 2: from a nearby cafe. Passing sentence, Judge Barcatoe Archy greated

2000
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 2: significant risk. The consequences could have been gravely severe, whether

2001
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: that be for.

2002
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Yourself or for others. Maybe you have to ask whop

2003
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 1: or something I o't now? All right, y'all, that's it, Premium.

2004
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 2: People will see you tomorrow for Bossy Sports And then

2005
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 2: Fridays should be a nerd off. Everybody else will see

2006
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: Saturday for a feedback show.

2007
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: Look forward to Sunday. My mom will virtually be here

2008
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,520
Speaker 1: for Mother's Day. We at the social distance the podcast,

2009
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 1: but that should be cool. So all right y'all until then,

2010
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:49,120
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2011
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