1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. It's Texans All Access. I'm Mark Vandermer 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: with John Harris as we take you into the weekend 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and talk about a bunch of things related to professional 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: football and some not because that's just the way we 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: do it sometimes. Here Johnny, Happy Friday. Here we go. 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: I hope you're defrosting, and I know we have another 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: cold one tonight. We gotta get through one more night, 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: one more hill to climb in the deep freeze of 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and then that's it, goodbye. No more 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: below freezing temperatures. Please. Yeah, I hope that's the case. 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: It's funny because what do we say in August whenever 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: we get cold weather, I'm never gonna complain. And it 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: really wasn't. I really wasn't complaining about the cold weather. 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I didn't. I didn't mind the cold weather. 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: But it's what the cold weather brought on that made 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: me upset. That's the I can handle cold weather. You 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: know me. You guys got those nice fancy space heaters 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: you andre up in the press box, and I'm down, 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, freeze, my little Tutsi's off, So I'm okay 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: with cold man. I'm fine, but I just didn't want 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: it to shut down everything that it did. But everything 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: in the in the Harris household is finally back up 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: and running power, internet, water, So I got my left 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: tack on my edge. I even got my special teams 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: back with my internet. So we should be we should 27 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: be all good to go, and hopefully the same for 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: you Mark the family and obviously all of our listeners 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, everything's fine with us. And I checked 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: it with Dre and everything's fine at his house as well, 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: so that's cool. You know, a couple of things about 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: Texans fascinate me. Of course, cold weather reactions shouldn't be 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: that surprising, right. I saw one meme out there. It 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: said Houstonians when there's a hurricane coming, and it was 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: mel Gibson and braveheart and full nake. I'm like Houstonians 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: when it's below freezing and they had a picture of 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the Cowardly Lion, and that's pretty darn accurate. Now as 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: far as the heat goes, though, I'm always surprised in 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: the spring when you get those first like eighty five 40 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: degree days and you know, close to ninety and people 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, it's so hot. I'm thinking that's nothing. 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: You'll be begging for eighty five degree in another couple 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: of months, right, what is ninety five at camp? You're 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: thinking about eighty five as like Bill O'Brien once said, 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: a great Alaskan cold front blowing through. Well, that's that's 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the thing that surprised about that when when that day comes, 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: that's spring day, when you've had really nice you know, 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: seventy to seventy five, and you're like, okay, this is 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: why I live in Texas these days. And you look 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: around a country and it's thirty and forty other places, 51 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, that day pops up 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: to like eighty eight out of the blue, and you're like, whoa, 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: I'm not ready yet. That's the thing. You're not ready 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: for it. And hopefully that won't be the case. Hopefully 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: it'll be nice and nice and warm but not overly 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: hot sometime soon. But when I saw that Monday temperatures 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: we are going to be in the seventies, I was like, 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: you know what, that's more like this time of year. 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: Then again, I will say mark at this time of 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: year where are we usually typically at this time of 61 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: year Combine and we get weather just like this. Yeah, 62 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: so we're kind of used to it. It kind of 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: it kind of brought me back. If I would have 64 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: had power and water the entire time, I'd have felt 65 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: right at home in Indianapolis, I mean Houston. Well, the 66 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: acceptance level of and we've all dealt with it, no 67 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: matter what your walk of life is. With the COVID situation, 68 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: everything changing. Who moved my cheese every single day of 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: the year, right and clearly with us with training camp 70 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: and the season, last offseason and losing the Combine because 71 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: that was the last real regular non COVID NFL event 72 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: we had in twenty twenty. Losing the Combine, it's a 73 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: real heartbreaker, just added on to the list of heartbreakers 74 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: because we love that event. I love seeing everybody from 75 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: around the league. It's a big convention. It's very informal 76 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: in many ways, and you see people out of the 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: restaurants and everything, and you know the owners meetings. I 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: go there too, But that's a little more upper croaster, 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: you know. That's like that's a little bit more buttoned 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: up a little bit. Yeah, it's it's a little Christ 81 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: and Howled and Lovey and me. You know who doesn't 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: belong here? You know, the combine just feels like it's everybody. 83 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: It's open to all the assistant coaches scouting people. So 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: you see, you know, bumping a Dave Ragone and people 85 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: like that. I don't bump into Dave Ragone at the 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: owner's meetings. So it's just fascinating to me. Well, I 87 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: use that word again. It's interesting to me to be 88 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: at the Combine. I really love it. But anyway, here 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: we are, Johnny. I wanted to dig into this all week, really, 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: ever since the announcement of JJ Watt and the Texans 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: parting ways, and just get into inventory on the defense, 92 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: particularly the line. I don't think we have time to 93 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: go through all of it, and I don't want to, 94 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, bog everybody down with every single nitty gritty thing. 95 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: McLean hit on it a little bit last night. But 96 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: when you look at who's on this defensive line, who 97 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: is slated to come back as of now, People who 98 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: are under contract us no guarantee you're gonna make the 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: football team come Labor Day. Who's a restricted free agent, 100 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent? That kind of thing let's go through 101 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: some of this, shall we with what we think that 102 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: a Lovey Smith defense might like with Bobby Kane coaching 103 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: this line. Are you ready, my friend? Oh, of course, 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: of course. And I think the first thing that we 105 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: have to talk about, it's not a member of the personnel, 106 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: but it is what's the change in how this defense 107 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: will function? Ie? Will it be more of a three 108 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: four two gapping type defense, will it be a multiple 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: defense or will it be what we've known Lovey Smith 110 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: to have over the years, And that's kind of a 111 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: four three one gap penetrating defense, playing some Tampa two 112 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: in the back end or a lot of zone. You 113 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: know how much did Lovey's time with Illinois change things? 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: So that to me is kind of the first thing 115 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: to handle, Mark, And I think it could could change 116 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: in some sense some of the some of the personnel 117 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: and how it fits as we look at it. But yeah, 118 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this a little bit with 119 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: the defensive line without J. J. Watt and look it's there. 120 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna be some additions, there's no question about that. 121 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: There has to be. But you're losing JJ Watter guy 122 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: who was a mainstay. Yeah, I know, he's injured in sixteen, 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: seventeen and part of nineteen, but he was just a mainstay. 124 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: You could rely on him. You called for it all 125 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, all the time, JJ it's time to make 126 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: a play, and he'd make a play. This group is 127 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to be more of whole is greater than 128 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: some of its parts. To be honest, well, I think, 129 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, I go back to the Panthers, not in 130 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but twenty nineteen when I think they led 131 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: the NFC in sacks and nobody had more than eight 132 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: or nine or something. Sometimes you have an ensemble doing 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: the job, and maybe that's what this is gonna have 134 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: to be. It looks like right now that's what it's 135 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to be. But we're here in February, John, 136 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: this is clearly we know this. It's gonna change. You 137 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: have the draft, you have free agency, have possible trades. 138 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: So you just don't know what that Labor Day roster 139 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: is gonna look like when you get through that fourth 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: or third in this case, preseason game. But let's go 141 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: through some of it, because you know, I'm thinking about 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: who are your top people coming back? I mean Charles A. Metta, 143 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: who is a player that has a lot of talent 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: heading into year three. Really, in a four to three, 145 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: he's still a defensive end, right, I mean he's still 146 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: gonna play. He's gonna play on the end. And you 147 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: wanted to go after the passer, you wanted to play 148 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: the run solidly. And I know that he is excited 149 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: about having a big year. I mean he knows that 150 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: when you step into year three as a player, you 151 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: really got to make a statement there because you're setting 152 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: yourself up from a personal standpoint for your next contract 153 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: and you just want to continue to ascend as a player. 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I think that change to a to a four three, 155 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: which allows Charles in particular to move to a true 156 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: four three defensive end position, I think there will be 157 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: nobody on the face of this green earth happier than Charles, 158 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: A man who I think Charles forced forced in some 159 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: sense to play inside. That's not that's not his cup 160 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: of tea. I don't think Charles likes doing it. I 161 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: don't think it's where he's best served. But when you're 162 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: playing more of a three to four than that's what's 163 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: asked of you. And also when you have lost bodies, 164 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: you lost PJ Hall, you lost Brandon Dunne, Blackson was cut, 165 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: Reader was let go, or it was allowed to go 166 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: free agency. You just didn't have depth in there, and 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: so now you're hurting. So Charles got to move inside 168 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: and he's a fishhout of water, but Charles on the outside. 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: And to me, this is one of the interesting parts Mark, 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: I think about roster building, especially at that position and 171 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: defensive line. And you've heard me say this for a 172 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: long time that when it comes to defensive lineman, I 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: don't like to pigeonhold them into the guy's a defensive end. 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: The guys defensive tackle situations are different across the board. 175 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: And one of them, and I'm seeing this a lot 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: in the draft, is that you have a lot of 177 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: guys that could play that four three defensive end spot 178 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: against the run, but then on third down or passing 179 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: downs move inside and rush against the guard. And to me, 180 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: that is Charles a mena who in a nut show. 181 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: I go back to that rookie year against Kansas City 182 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: when he's rushing against Austin Ryder and just whips him, 183 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: gets that big turnover right, and that let's the Texas 184 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: score touchdown, take the league going into the half, and 185 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: that was a massive play. That's Charles in a nut show. 186 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: Rush inside, play outside, first and second down or rushdowns. 187 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: He can rush from out there, no problem, but if 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: you can get to a point where he can then 189 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: come inside and rush where he can just free up. 190 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: I think we went back and looked at all of 191 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: his pressures. A good majority of the pressures came rushing 192 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: from the inside. And I see a lot of those 193 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: guys coming from college football now that have got you know, 194 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: there's six two sixty three, sixty four, two eighty, and 195 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: they're a little light to live inside, but you don't 196 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: mind him going and rent in space, and so you 197 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: see a lot of I think Charles is that kind 198 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: of guy, and I think he's perfect to do that. 199 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: So I think this fits Charles more than anybody else. 200 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: And I think the other person that a move like 201 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: this could could really aid in some sense is Ross Blacklock, 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: because I think Ross. I think what we learned about 203 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Ross last year is playing a big twelve and playing NFL. Obviously, yes, 204 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: it's different, but why is it different. The NFL is 205 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: going to require you to bog down, really press and 206 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: attack the outside shoulder of guards, use your strength. We're 207 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: in a big twelve. A lot of it was about 208 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: quickness in pursuit and watching Ross, you could see the 209 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: athleticism because he was running the ball. He didn't even 210 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: really take on blocks. He was just you know, just 211 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: seeing it and going NFL asked you to do something different, 212 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: especially to Texans, they're asking you a two gap a 213 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: little bit, play both sides of a gap. But in 214 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: a system like loves, Ross might be able to just 215 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: attack one gap. Go just use your athleticism, get up field. 216 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: And Tommy Harris Oklahoma who played for the Bears, and 217 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: others that played for Lovey smith Man that was a 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: key position for them, and love he was able to 219 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: find guys that could do that, that were built like Ross, 220 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: that wanted to use your athleticism, could use your athleticism 221 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: and created a lot of habit doing it. So to me, 222 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: this defensive line and its success will come down to 223 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: those two guys in particular, and fitting a little bit 224 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: more than fitting better into the defense than maybe they 225 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: did last year. Well, Johnny, you mentioned PJ. Halm, and 226 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: he got hurt last year, and he looked pretty good 227 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: when he was in there. It looked like a fine 228 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. He's a restricted free agent, so 229 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: you do have some control over the situation, and I'm 230 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: eager to see how he might fit into their plans. 231 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: He's over three hundred at three h five. I'm looking 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: at a lack of size here, I believe because a 233 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: meta who all right, he could play defensive ended his 234 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: way listed two eighty, Blacklock two ninety now Carlos Watkins 235 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: unrestricted at about three hundred. Brandon Dunn comes back from injury. 236 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: He's three ten. Do they need more size? Big Z 237 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: still on this roster. He was a rookie last year. 238 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna attempt to pronounce his name right now 239 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: because I'm at but he's six four, three twenty, and 240 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I think that they want to see what he's gotten 241 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: the tank because he showed some signs, some promise, especially 242 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: during camp. They kind of like the way he looked. 243 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: So there is a lot to consider there. I mean, 244 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: there's no question you're gonna add to this, but we're 245 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: just looking. We're looking at the cupboard right now. It's 246 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: kind of like after the power went out and you're 247 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: seeing what you have available to eat. Okay, these are 248 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: the guys who are available to play right now. If 249 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: you had to go Sunday and you're thinking, you know, 250 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: I got to go to the grocery store and get 251 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: a little bit more here, but I do have some 252 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: things to build on. I have some things I can 253 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: make the meal with, perhaps here with this current group. Yes, 254 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: no doubt now to both of your questions. Number one, 255 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: as it pertains the PJ, I think PJ was absolutely 256 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: a fine and I think from a restrictive free agents dampoint, 257 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: the nice thing is is you'll be able to match 258 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: whatever a team puts out there. So if it's you know, 259 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: two years for three hundred million dollars a year, you 260 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: get a chance to match that. It won't be obviously, 261 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: but you get My point is you'll be able to know. 262 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: You almost don't even have to negotiate. In some sense, 263 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: you can kind of let other teams set the market 264 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: and then you can look at it and say, Okay, yeah, 265 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: that's not a market we can live in, or it's 266 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: not a market we should live in, or you know what, 267 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: yeah we need to have that. Because to your point, 268 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: you've got to have more ingredients in the Booye base, 269 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: especially up front and especially the way that teams in 270 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: this division play. You're gonna beat the Colts and not 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: have any size and let Jonathan Taylor just run the 272 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: ball over you, Derek Henry. I mean, there's that's four games. 273 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: That's twenty five percent of your games. And then let's 274 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: throw in James Robinson from the Jacks too. That's six 275 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: games of your sixteen almost forty percent of your games 276 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: where you're facing teams that are gonna want to pound 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: on the rock. And if you don't at least have 278 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of size, at least a little bit, 279 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: you don't have to be you know all, you know, 280 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: three or four guys, you know, three twenty plus, But 281 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: I do think you have to find somebody or a 282 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: guy or two that does have some size, can you know, 283 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: hold their own against double teams even And that was 284 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: one thing it was great about Reader. Reader could hold 285 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: his own against double teams, and Zach and Bemack just 286 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: rant the ball and that was hugely valuable. So and 287 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,119 Speaker 1: obviously DJ got paid for it. So from that perspective, 288 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: you've got to have if you don't have a bunch 289 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: of guys with size, then you better have some dudes 290 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: that are three hundred and three h five that are 291 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: strong as an ox, that can hold up against that. 292 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: And you saw at the end of the year we 293 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: didn't have that. We didn't have anybody that could really 294 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: hold up. You know, like you said, Brandon dunb what 295 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: is he three three ten? He said something like that. 296 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, Dunny plays a little bigger than that, you know, 297 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: because he can hold his own. He's learned to check 298 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: the trade, he's learned how to hold his own in 299 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: there at three hundred and ten pounds. That said, there's 300 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: some size in this draft that I think Mark could 301 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: end up being had in the third or fourth round. 302 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: And there are gonna be some free agents that are 303 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: out there. And look how many how many times what 304 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Well, we wont got big Grease yep halfway 305 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: through the year or somewhere early in the year. And 306 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: then and then he played very well. He didn't have 307 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: to play every down, but it's enough to get them 308 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: to second and third down. Um, we've had you know, 309 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Visual four came in. Vince wasn't what he was prior to, 310 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: but he you know, two years and just clogging holes 311 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: up and just you know, blocking things up or teams, 312 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: And now I think we're playing three teams on a 313 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: division that run that much better, that we we better 314 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: improve in that in that way that we find some 315 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: guys that can hold up a little bit better against 316 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: the pressure that those offensive lines are gonna be able 317 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: to put on us. Well, I'm excited to see. Now, 318 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: let's see about these linebackers who might be able to 319 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: become defensive ends. We're gonna argue can play him at 320 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: defensive end, right, Yes, yes you can't. What about out 321 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Duke GETJA four or maybe a Jacob 322 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Martin and we still have Whitney merciless to think about. 323 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Let's start with a J four. Well, first of all, 324 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: the biggest thing with Duke is he's getting back healthy. Yeah, 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the biggest thing. And then you're gonna 326 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: have to kind of reverse the rewire. And it's the 327 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: same on Whitney too. It's funny because you know, Duke 328 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: played his hand in the ground most of the time 329 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: Wake Forrest come out of college. That's all Whitney was. 330 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: Whitney was put his hand at dirt and rushed the 331 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: quarterback when he was in college playing in a four 332 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: three to Illinois, and then when he came here, it 333 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: around three four and he stand up. I'm sure when 334 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: he could put his hand in the ground, but he's 335 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: so used to playing up now, you know. And look, 336 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: there's some guys that play from an up position no 337 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: matter what. Whether than the three four four three doesn't 338 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. But you know, I think Grenard definitely 339 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: can do it, and I'd be interested to see what 340 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Duke can give to you. But he was coming off 341 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: one year where an Achilles, one year with an acl look, 342 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: and I don't want that to mean that I think 343 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: Duke can play he's fully healthy. I just want to 344 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: see him be fully healthy and get rid of some 345 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: of this bad luck and to see whether he can 346 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: go back and put his hand in the ground and 347 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: play the way that he did in his wake for 348 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: his career before he really kind of messed up his shoulder, 349 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: which is really what would open him up to be 350 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: there in the sixth round for us. But I think 351 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: all those guys can't put their hands on the ground. 352 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: The one to me that's gonna be really interesting, though, 353 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: is Jacob Martin and where where he fits because he's 354 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: so fast and so quick coming off that edge. We 355 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: know he can rush the quarterback. But I think what 356 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to what we're gonna have to do 357 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: with him in some sense is if if it does 358 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: become a four to three, he's gonna have to probably 359 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: play a will linebacker position. I would guess. I would 360 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: imagine that's where you you'd have to play him and 361 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: then bump him down on rushdowns. I could see that. 362 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I could see that working. But you know, to play 363 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: that will linebacker spot, there's a lot of awareness, a 364 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: lot of different things. You have to think about something. 365 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: You know what's going on behind you. Whereas you play 366 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: that three to four offs the linebacker, you just worried 367 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: about what's in front of you. You might drop a 368 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: little bit every now and again, but you're rushing or 369 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: you're playing a run, you're looking ahead. You're not figuring 370 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: out it's behind you where you gotta drop. You all that. 371 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be an adjustment period. So I'm curious 372 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: to see how that how that plays out if there 373 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: is indeed a scheme changes we would think there would be. 374 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: With Lovey Smith taken over, boy, what do you think 375 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: that evaluation is like of the secondary? The linebackers. Well, 376 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: let's just go with the linebackers, because certain guys who 377 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: haven't been covering people who might need to in this defense, 378 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: and you have to figure out or project how they 379 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: might do that. I mean, it's not like you can 380 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: have tryouts right now with your own players. Hey, guys, 381 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: can you come out into the building. We want to 382 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: see how you look at a four to three and 383 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna go offense defense. I mean, you'd love to 384 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: be able to do all that stuff right now. You can't, 385 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: So you have to make projections and they'll be able 386 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: to practice if there is offseason practice a little bit 387 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: sooner than everybody else, because you have a coaching change 388 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: here and you get an instant look that way. And 389 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: that is still let's see, is that prior to the draft? 390 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yes, you'll about two and a half 391 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: three weeks before the draft. Yes, well you get you 392 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: get the startup offseason conditioning. Do you get enough of 393 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: a look at them on a football field? I don't know. 394 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you do, Maybe you feel like you know enough 395 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: and it can affect your draft. It might not affect 396 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: your draft at all, but it certainly affects who you 397 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: might get in a second and third wave of free agency. 398 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I think it's very tricky when you're switching up systems. 399 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, as crazy as it sounds, no matter 400 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: what you do, scheme change, coaching change, whatever, no matter. 401 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: Let's say there is a scheme change, then everybody that 402 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: walks on that field is a complete total projection for 403 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the most part, right because you will not have seen 404 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: any of these players play in that particular scheme for 405 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: the most part. So, well, do you think Ross Blacklock 406 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: can make the move? Do you think Charles and many 407 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: who can make the move? Outside? What do you think 408 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: about you guys? You for you know everybody is forecasting, 409 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: even guys coming from other teams, Well, how will they 410 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: do around these sets of players? How will they do 411 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: facing AFC South defensive lines. Every player that then comes 412 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: in ends up being an absolute and total projection going forward, 413 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: including obviously the ones that I don't say are most valuable, 414 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: but including the rookies, who you have no idea what 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: they might do. At least the other guys you've seen 416 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: them play NFL football, so you have some sort of 417 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: clue on how they might adapt. Rookies you have no clue, 418 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: No idea. But I think that's where you've got to 419 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: be able to at least find four, three or four 420 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: through the rookie or undrafted rookie process that come in 421 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: here and impact this defense. May not be started right away, 422 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: but they can at least impact this defense right away. Well, 423 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, you and I'll break down position groups, maybe 424 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: not every day, but every other day or however the 425 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: frequency is. And as I look at them, I mean, 426 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: just one more note here before we break I think 427 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: the secondary is going to have the most overhaul. I 428 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: mean when it has to. When you just look at 429 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: the amount of free agents in the secondary and then 430 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: some of the guys they have, are they gonna retain 431 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: their services or not? I mean they have an overhaul 432 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: of overhauls taking place here in the defensive backfield going 433 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one. Yeah, and again this goes back 434 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: to if you make a scheme change. You know, the 435 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: one thought with Tampa. You know, Lovey Smith was a 436 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Tampa two guy. You know, you're playing at four three 437 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: up front and then you play the Tampa two in 438 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: the back end. Now to me, you got a couple 439 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: of you got a linebacker and Zach Cutting am I 440 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: think could play I think in any scheme and be 441 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: fine and succeed. But in the secondary, you're absolutely right 442 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: now Justin Reid can play pretty much any scheme you 443 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: want them to. But if you're gonna play more zone, 444 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: then you do. Man. Does that open you up to 445 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: look at certain guys if you're gonna play more man 446 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: than zone, or you're gonna look at other guys to 447 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: bring in or to have. But I'm absolutely with you, 448 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: there's no question when you just look at what's back 449 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: there in the secondary right now, you're like, man, there's 450 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a want a turnover if they want to 451 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: get to a point where they want to stop people 452 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: this year, because you can't go into a year where 453 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: you're hoping Gary and Connley is healthy and again relying 454 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: on that, well, yeah, if Gary and Connolly's healthy, well 455 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: then that's the inside. It's yeah, no exactly. So I 456 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: just think you've got I think you've got four free 457 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: agents back in the back end that played at certain 458 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: points important roles for you that you got to make 459 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: decisions on. Conley, Hardgraves, Michael Thomas and Philip Gaines. Those guys. 460 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, who's to say whether any any of them 461 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: are coming back, and then your depth is stretched at 462 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: that point, and then of course you're not gonna have 463 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: Robie for the first game. So it's to me. Yeah, 464 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: and here's here's the bad news. In some sense, Mark, 465 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: we haven't gotten the bad news yet. No, no, the 466 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: bad news. Now take us with a grain of salt, 467 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: because there might be the secondary, in particular corners in 468 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: this draft not the greatest right, and the free agency 469 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: not the greatest. The flip side of that is wide 470 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: receivers incredible both free agency and draft, but the corner 471 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: position is really not good and really eat either respect. 472 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: So that's gonna make it even trickier. But then again, 473 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: seeing crazier things happen, you find somebody that drafted process 474 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: and see what they can do. But yeah, there's a 475 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: definite wall back overhaul back there for sure. All right, 476 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: coming up, more likely to happen. We haven't played this 477 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: since last offseason, so let's play it today. AFC South 478 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: stuff coming up, quarterback talk coming up and more likely 479 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: to happen. Let's get to it next. On Texans Radio, 480 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermar John Harris with you. It's 481 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Friday night and I'm not gonna sing. I swore I 482 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, and I won't do it. No one 483 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: wants to hear that, Johnny, and I hope people have 484 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: been enjoying my mini tours of NRG Stadium. I started 485 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: it last night on Twitter with my office, and today's 486 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: was the Astrodome photo that's in the lobby of the 487 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: ground breaking of the Astrodome fifty nine years ago, when 488 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the guys are firing the pistols into the ground. I mean, 489 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: that is just so awesome that. I mean, for a 490 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: guy like me who wasn't born here but got here 491 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: as fast as I could, that is just a fantastic picture. 492 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: It's on Twitter. Go ahead at Texans Voice check it out. 493 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Are you ready to play, Johnny? It's been I'm always 494 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: ready to play. Let's roll, all right, more likely to happen, 495 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: more likely to finish second in passing yards in the 496 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: AFC South, in the division now that Carson Wentz is 497 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: in the division, because Watson with the Texans, and yes, 498 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Watson's gonna be with the Texans, okay, and I'm not 499 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: deaf to what's happening out there, but Watson with the Texans, 500 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: I assume that's first. That's the easiest one in the world. 501 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: So you got to pick the next three more likely 502 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: to finish next in passing yards because you have possibly 503 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. You have to just guess who 504 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: their quarterback is gonna be. Do they make them sit 505 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: for a year behind somebody? Is Mintshew gonna keep the 506 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: seat warm? No, Wentz obviously plays for the Colts. That 507 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: should go a lot better than it did in Philly. 508 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: Wentz has talent, better roster. And then Ryan Tannehill? Does 509 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: he throw for more than usual? Is Derrick Henry running 510 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: the ball as well? You got you get to decide 511 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So who's gonna finish second in passing 512 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: yards in the ABC cell, I think it's Tannehill, and 513 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: I say it's Tannehill because at some point I'm gonna 514 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: be right about this. I'm gonna be right about the 515 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: fact that Derrick Henry can't continue to carry the offense 516 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: week after week after week. Now, you know I've said 517 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: that a few times. Yeah, It's kind of like it's 518 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: like me and Tom Brady ten years ago. This is 519 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: the year that he falls off. Now it's not happening. Yeah, 520 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about it is I love Derrick 521 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: Henry because he didn't say much. He doesn't celebrate all 522 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: his touchdowns. He just goes out and hammers people, and 523 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: he's a quiet, reserved guy. I love Derrick Henry. I 524 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: hate facing him. And by the way, of those two 525 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: thousand yards, we gave up about four hundred and fifty 526 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: of my thing. So maybe if we stopped him, maybe, 527 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Tannehill would throw for even more yards, 528 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: but I think it's Tannehill. I do think that Trevor 529 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: is gonna put up some numbers. He will be the 530 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: guy in Jacksonville. And I gosh, Mark, I'm just I 531 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: was a big fan of Carson Wentz and I feel 532 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: like there are times where a guy can turn things around. 533 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: He gets back with the right people, he's got the 534 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: right fit around him. But it wasn't as if he 535 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: didn't have talent in Philly. Now, his offensive line was 536 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: always moving around because injuries and things like that, but 537 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: he had some weapons to throw too. And the one 538 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: year where all that sort of came together was twenty 539 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: seventeen when he was the MVP candidate. And he was 540 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: the MVP candidate before he got hurt in that game 541 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: out in La so I think there's something there. However, 542 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: I also believe that a confidence can play a role, 543 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: and it felt like watching him last year his confidence 544 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: was badly shaken. And as long as things stay early on, 545 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: you know, he has good games, and you know, but 546 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: the first time he has a rocky game and it 547 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: doesn't go well, how does he react to the criticism 548 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: he might get? How does he react? How is frank 549 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Ry Handell? All that kind of stuff. I think Wentz 550 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: ends up being the fourth of the lot. I'm not 551 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: going to buy in too, I'm sorry. Third, yeah, third, 552 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: because Lawrence will be Lawrence. Bet Lawrence will put up 553 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: thirty two hundred. He'll put up thirty two hundred. He's 554 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 1: got some weapons. There's no doubt. We've seen DJ chart 555 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: third play of the game, seventy seven yards smoked us. 556 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: But we've seen that for a while. We know they've 557 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: got some weapons, and they'll add another couple, I think 558 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: in the draft. So he'll put up some numbers, but 559 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: he'll also have some rocky moments. But I think he's last. 560 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: Think Wentz his third. I think Tannehill ends up being second. 561 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: He's just got too many weapons around him handry with 562 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: that running game. Teams are looking to take that way. 563 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: He just faces He faces four guys in the secondary 564 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: more than anybody because everybody's looking to stop the runs. 565 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: So I'm saying Tannehill number two, okay, more likely to happen, 566 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: more likely to retire next. Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Tom Brady, 567 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: now Breeze. We thought was done this year. It looks 568 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: like he's coming back. But anything could change at any time. 569 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, you could have a cold spell like we've 570 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: had this week and decide, my body hurts, I'm not 571 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna play football anymore. I don't know what's going on 572 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: through the mind of Drew Brees or any of these guys. 573 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady just won the Super Bowl. Clearly he's fired 574 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: up to win another one, his eighteenth Super Bowl. So 575 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: what do you think here, Who's going to retire next? 576 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: Among those three? I was convinced it was Drew Brees. 577 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I was convinced. I was convinced after the last I 578 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: was convinced two years ago that I thought he was done. Right, Definitely, 579 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: after last year, I thought he was done. No one, 580 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, he's coming back. Oh, now he's 581 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: taking the NBC job. Okay, he's gonna have one Swan 582 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: song and then that's it, and then he's moving on 583 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: to NBC. Winston takes over, they draft a quarterback or 584 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: whatever they do with New Orleans, and New Orleans moves on. 585 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Breezes who you know, moves on to his football afterlife 586 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: for the way we go. But then I see that 587 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: Jews coming back, I don't think. I don't think that's 588 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: a good thing for New Orleans. I really don't. As 589 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: much as I love Drew, I'm a huge I have 590 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: been a huge Drew Brees fan for a long time, 591 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: dating back to his days at Purdue when at Purdue 592 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: they would face Michigan and they faced Tom Brady. Now 593 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: Brady's playing as well as we've seen him play, So 594 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: why I don't know why he would. You know, his offensive, 595 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: his Sovereigns line is very good. Gronks playing well. He 596 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: still has Godwin avas I might not have Godwin, who 597 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: may move on in free agency. He's got Scottie Miller, 598 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: He's got the two backs of the back through their 599 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: excellent Why he shouldn't leave, he should stay and play 600 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: that thing till he dies, really, because Tampa Bay set 601 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: up to win for a number of years as long 602 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: as he can stay healthy. So I think Brady stays. 603 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Breeze and Roethlisberger are like one A, one B. To me, 604 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: I just think what we saw from Ben even in 605 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Week three, You're like, man, he's still got it. But 606 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: it's if we could have put any pressure on him. 607 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, And you started seeing that over 608 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: the last five six games of the year, really started 609 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: breaking down, and you just get to a point as 610 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: a team where you're like, all right, guys, look, you 611 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: guys have meant a lot to this organization, but we've 612 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: got to move on. We're really getting hurt because of 613 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: the things that you can't do that you're trying to do, 614 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: and then the things that you can't do that we 615 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: really would like to do. So I think, to me, 616 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: it's Breeze. I would be. I was really surprised hearing 617 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: that rumor that he's coming back for another year. I mean, 618 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: if I'm Sean Payton as gently as I possibly can, 619 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: I gotta walk over there, like Drew, Look, man, I 620 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know if this 621 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: is the right thing, and maybe Mike Tomam does the 622 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: same thing in Pittsburgh. It sounds more like in Pittsburgh 623 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: that like they're ready to handle the business of football 624 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: and new Or isn't quite there yet with Drew Brees. 625 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: That's the way it sounds, okay, more likely to happen, 626 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: and this might be our last one, and bear with me, folks. 627 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm gonna get eye rolls on Twitter 628 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: for this one. But the Texans with Watson or the 629 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Patriots more likely to make the playoffs next year bounce 630 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: back year Texans with Watson. I can't believe I have 631 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to say that to people, but that's what I'm gonna 632 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: say here, or the Patriots with whatever they decide to do, 633 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: because it's not gonna be Cam Newton, So who's it 634 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna be. I don't know. They do get those guys 635 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: back from the opt out last year, that will help 636 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: defensively for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. The thing is, we saw 637 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots team with Cam Newton playing pretty well. Now 638 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: he's faced our defense, and we didn't, you know, we 639 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: started really kind of opening cannon, you know what on 640 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: him late when we knew that he had to throw. 641 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Then you know, we was bringing blitzes from all over 642 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: the place and then they couldn't handle it. But yeah, 643 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: we saw that Patriots team some good things. I just 644 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: don't think the Patriots are set up at this point. Now. 645 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what quarterback could they go out 646 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: and get and do something with? But it's I don't 647 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: put anything past Belichick at this point. You know, could 648 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Belichick put together a package and call Seattle and say, look, 649 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you all of this for Russell Wilson. 650 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, is the unknown that that to me is 651 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: the major unknown in this So let's do that. One 652 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: more likely to happen quarterback in New England Russell Wilson 653 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: or the field, the field, the field, yeah, the field. Yeah. 654 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: And this Russell, Oh my gosh, Russell Wilson in New 655 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: England would make me sick. Yeah, it's uh, it's not good. 656 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't even want to entertain that thought. Johnny, all right, 657 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: coming out, let's go around the league. Now. A lot 658 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: of stuff happening around the NFL that always does Denver 659 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: in the news. I'll tell you why they're in the news. 660 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: And I just don't understand some of this stuff. And 661 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: you can help explain it to me. It's next on 662 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: Texans Radio, Mark Vandermar John Harris with you Texans or 663 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: Radio heading into the weekend. So, Johnny, the Denver Broncos 664 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: were one of those teams that everyone was touting as 665 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: a possible destination for the unthinkable, the previously unthinkable, and 666 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: in my view, currently unthinkable that we really don't talk 667 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: about much on this particular program. But why, why, what 668 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: is so unbelievably spectacular about the Broncos. I know they 669 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: have the new GM and Patton. You've got four consecutive 670 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: losing seasons here, and we like Vic Fangio, his former 671 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: Texans defensive coordinator, but he's going into year three and 672 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: he was on thin ice in Denver heading into the offseason. 673 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: And look, if it doesn't go well early, this could 674 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: be an early season firing. I mean, I'm sure I 675 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: haven't looked at all the betting odds for first coach 676 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: to get fired twenty twenty one, but he's got to 677 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: be on that list somewhere. And I hate to say it, Vic, 678 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: but you know it's true. So why is this such 679 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: a wonderful spot for anybody to land? I don't know, 680 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I've been asking myself the same thing. 681 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, when you first of all 682 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: look at the division, you got to face the Chiefs twice. 683 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers. Um, the Chargers are going to 684 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: end up being I think a pretty good squad here 685 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert. Ye. I don't know. I don't. I'm 686 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: not totally sure. I don't. I don't. I feel like 687 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: Denver Denver sits on the precipist though. They've got some 688 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: young talent, especially offensively no offense, Jerry Judy, kJ Hamdler. 689 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: They've got some young talent. Garrett Bowles had a really 690 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: good year. You know. We say going into the year 691 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: that you know, Bulls had struggled prior to but man, 692 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: he turned it around and became the left tackle that 693 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: we all thought he could be because he's a heck 694 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: and athlete. So they've got some they've got some pieces, 695 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: but von Miller may not be there much longer, and 696 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 1: the other pieces on defensive look and go. I don't know, 697 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't really see a whole lot. You know, Bradley 698 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: Chubbs good player, but still you know, wasn't one hundred 699 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: percent healthy last year. You know, Kareem is still there, 700 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: but you know, Kareem's now about eighty five. Justin Simmons 701 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: is a really good football player, but I don't know 702 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: how much longer you know, he's gonna stick in Denver. 703 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know that. I don't I don't get it. 704 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, last year Denver was kind of the flavor 705 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: of the month going into the year in some sense. Oh, 706 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: they got Drew Locke, and you know, Drew lock pretty 707 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: much played like his second year at Missouri. Now, if 708 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: Drew Locke plays this year like his third year of Missouri, 709 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: then the Broncos might have something, But I'm not expecting 710 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: that anytime soon. Well, the thing about Drew Locke is, 711 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, I always this is not the first place 712 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: I look, but it's one of the first places. And 713 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: in the NFL, your completion percentage has got to be 714 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: up there. It can't be it's fifty seven percent. This 715 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: is the National Football League. If you're below sixty, you 716 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: gotta do with some stern self examination here. What is 717 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: wrong with you if you can't complete sixty percent of 718 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: your passes in this league? Now it used to be fifty, 719 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: Like fifty was that that? Like you gotta get above 720 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: sea level, right, you know, like when Dante played, if 721 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: you were above fifty, it felt okay, but it was 722 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: a different game then. You know, it was a lot 723 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: of it wasn't as much throwing. It was a lot 724 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: of deep shots. It was some short passes. But at fifty, 725 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: if you're above fifty year in good shape his name 726 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: of career like below fifty or something like that, or 727 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: it's right around there. It's pretty darn close. Yeah, it's 728 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: really close. I mean it's yeah. To me, that's unacceptable. 729 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: And then Locke obviously lit up the Houston Texans in 730 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It's just one of those freak games, clearly 731 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: because he hasn't really been that way against anybody else. 732 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Sixteen tds last year, fifteen interceptions. So h yeah, it's 733 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: not surprising that they would want a new quarterback. But 734 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can look at the entire roster, 735 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: the entire city there and say that's an organization headed 736 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Even though they have the new GM, 737 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: they have a coach that might not last that law. 738 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: But the Raiders are also another one to watch out west. 739 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: In fact, I almost made this one of my more 740 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: likely to happen. Questions more likely to return to prominence 741 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: of these proud franchises the Broncos or the Raiders. And 742 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: the Raiders obviously had a better season last year, but 743 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: look look what happened to them against Fitzy late in 744 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: the season. They had it all out there for themselves 745 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: and they couldn't close the deal. And then the Dolphins 746 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: the next week couldn't close the deal for themselves when 747 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: Fitzy had COVID and two. I had to play Yeah, 748 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: you know with the Raiders. To me Mark, it feels 749 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: like the puzzle pieces are on the table and Gruden's 750 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: having a hard time putting all the puzzle pieces together, 751 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: and he gets impatient with those puzzle pieces. I had 752 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: this conversation with a buddy of mine the other day 753 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: who's an agent who had a client with the Raiders 754 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: at some point, and it was like, you know, he 755 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: gets he gets impatient, you know, like PJ Hall. PJ 756 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: was a second round pick and they just went and done. 757 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, he didn't get to his 758 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: third year and we saw PJ and PJ had to 759 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: drop a little wake, got himself back in shape, and 760 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, that's Yeah, that's a good football 761 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: player right there. Andrew got a patient with that, so 762 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: I think, and I don't know whether that changes. However, 763 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: I do think the Raiders have got pieces. It's just 764 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 1: a matter of once they put them together, figuring out, Okay, 765 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: well we need this and we need that. Defensively, they 766 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: got to make some changes. They're they're awful up front, 767 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: They're not very good. They couldn't use the guy like 768 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: PJ Hall last year. I'll tell you that they used him. 769 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: But they've They've got some guys that can make some plays. 770 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: They also got to rain some dudes in. Jonathan Abram 771 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: could be one of the better safeties in the league, 772 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: but he's too hot headed and undisciplined, and he's just 773 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: he's killing them in big games. He killed him against 774 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, blown a coverage cost him in a game 775 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: winning touchdown. So they just have got pieces, but the 776 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: puzzles not coming together yet, and Gruden might be too 777 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: impatient to put it together. I have to watch that 778 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty on Al Davis. Don't Oh, you haven't 779 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: watched yet. It's fantastic. Oh, so I gotta see it. 780 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: I gotta see so good tonight. It's a good NFL 781 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: history lesson, good lesson. All Right, Johnny, thanks so much 782 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: of the time, it's always you got it. Mark, thank you. 783 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: So tonight it's between that thirty for thirty with the 784 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: Raiders or the Tiger Woods documentary. I haven't finished that yet. 785 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm not caught up there, or Ray Donovan, which I've 786 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: been catching up with, which I know is basically over, 787 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: but I'm watching it in retrospect. Okay, thanks to everyone 788 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: for listening being a part of the show tonight. Have 789 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: a great weekend. Go to Houston Texans dot com and 790 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: the Texans app for all sorts of great information on 791 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: your Texans. Go Texans.