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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Big show for

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Speaker 1: you today. Voice of the Jags, Frank Frangie up first,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have John Harris with me talking to Frank

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Speaker 1: and dep City who's gonna come in and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about what the Texans are up to individually and also

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Speaker 1: discuss the division, how that's changed, how the other teams

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Speaker 1: in the Texans schedule have changed with free agency, and

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Speaker 1: we remind you that the Texans are not done with

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Speaker 1: free agency, in fact, reportedly signing Daniel Fells, tight end

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Speaker 1: former Cleveland Brown today. They have not announced anything yet,

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Speaker 1: but you've seen the reports and Fells more of a blocker,

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Speaker 1: big tight end. He can catch the football, but he's

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Speaker 1: as I say to watch, he'll catch a bunch of

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Speaker 1: passes from Deshaun Watson next year. We'll see how he

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Speaker 1: fits in. Right now, time to find out how to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Gibson fits in, how the Jaguars are looking the

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Speaker 1: rest of the division. So we welcome aboard Frank Frangie,

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Frank, great to have you on.

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Speaker 1: Tell me Gibson, what is he bringing to the Houston Texansmark,

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Thanks for having me. He's good.

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Speaker 1: He's smart, one of the smartest free safety's I've seen.

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Speaker 1: He also can cover. That's the one thing that gets

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Speaker 1: lost a little bit about Deshaun. He can certainly in

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Speaker 1: a man undercover one. He sees the whole field, but

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Speaker 1: if you need someone to cover your tight end. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he did a great job out of ground cows people

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Speaker 1: they played here, they played a lot of man coverage

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Speaker 1: a very good tackler. He's a very good free safety.

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Speaker 1: I hated to lose him. I don't think they wanted

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Speaker 1: to lose him here because he can't pay everybody right,

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Speaker 1: and so they had to make some decisions. But that

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Speaker 1: He's a very good player. You're gonna love it. Frank

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles becomes the Jaguar starting quarterback, and from a

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Speaker 1: understand what it was like to kind of live through

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Speaker 1: the ups and downs of Blake Bortles. Now they go

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Speaker 1: to Nick Foles. What's been the reaction, what's your thought

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Speaker 1: on it? What's been the city's reaction to Nick coming in? John?

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love the fact that they're bringing

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Speaker 1: him in. I thought, given where this team is, it

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Speaker 1: was the perfect fine. Look they're really the Jags are

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Speaker 1: really good on defense, regardless of what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: Last year was it was an abomination of the season.

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Speaker 1: We all know that around here. But day that defense

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Speaker 1: I mean it was that bad last year, they still

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Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing. Being that they sat down for

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Speaker 1: that was kind of their season. Right So, as bad

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Speaker 1: and so they feel like they can win right now,

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Speaker 1: you got to rebuild some pieces on offense. But if

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Speaker 1: you think you can win now, you don't wait around

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Speaker 1: and draft the rookie and then it takes a while.

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Speaker 1: They're looking today's climate. The Shaun Watson's a great example. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is the ultimate example. Mister Trubisky's playing well.

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Speaker 1: You can get your quarterbacks ready pretty fast, faster than

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Speaker 1: guy that's been a Super Bowl MVP. There's eight quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: John that active quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: There's eight of them. Well, six of them are thirty

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Speaker 1: four and older. The two youngest to Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, both of whom are thirty. In fact, Russell's

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Speaker 1: think it's a great fine for Jacksonville. I really do.

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Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, voice of the Jaguars joining US. Frank, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the defense, what about some of the issues losing guys,

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Speaker 1: What do you expect next year? I know they still

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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of talented players. Yeah, defensively, Mark,

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Speaker 1: they're awfully good ends. They loved the corners here. They

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Speaker 1: that's the one they're concerned about. Nobody's worried about defense,

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Speaker 1: tight end, they need depth and receiver. Defensively, Mark, I

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Speaker 1: think this group feels like it's going to be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: There's still a lot of rebuilding to do on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. One of those pieces, Frank,

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Speaker 1: that they did rebuild was that offensive coordinator. And everybody,

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Speaker 1: obviously when this guy was signed, everybody thought, Weld, Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles is automatically going to Jacksonville because Johnd Filippo takes

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Speaker 1: know they haven't done a whole lot, Frank, but what's

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Speaker 1: been the overall impression of Johnny Filippo as the offensive

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Speaker 1: cornerator there in Jacksonville. First of all, john first thing

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Speaker 1: run at fold. He wasn't just a quarterbacks coach at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: They're very close, they're very good friends. They talk a lot,

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Speaker 1: they think this guy finally got a chance to be

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Speaker 1: Folds are very close. They know that what they planned

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Speaker 1: before didn't work, which was handed off to Lenon Fournette,

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Speaker 1: coach Flips. Coach Flip as they call him around here.

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Speaker 1: He and Folds are very close. The key is how

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Speaker 1: do they build the offense? Do they attack more? Do

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Speaker 1: Frank Blake Bortles is out there a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: in the market for a backup quarterback, including the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: What are they getting in Blake Bortles? Whoever signs him?

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Speaker 1: All world, good guy in the Good Guy Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Mark understands the game. Has played a lot, durable as heck,

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Speaker 1: tough as heck, great teammate, a leader. I can't say

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Speaker 1: enough good things about Blake Bortles, the person, Blake Bortles,

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Speaker 1: the athlete, Blake Bortles, the tough guy. There's so much good.

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Speaker 1: don't overthink it. He's a wonderful guy, wonderful in the community, tough,

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Speaker 1: My belief on a backup is if you're trying to win,

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Speaker 1: You're not expecting him to be what Nick Foles was

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Speaker 1: think Blake boards can do that just about anywhere. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big Blake fan. I think the world of the kid,

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Speaker 1: and he needs to be a backup in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna land somewhere and help somebody a bunch. Frank,

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Speaker 1: how much did the Leonard Fournette situation impact Jacksonville last

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Speaker 1: But you don't know until you know what kach Flip

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Speaker 1: go with it. Frank Frangie voiced the Jaguars with us

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. Frank two years ago, the Jags go

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Speaker 1: heavy and free agency get to the AFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: This year, the Texans not exactly heavy and free agency.

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Speaker 1: teams who go heavy to free agency. Often it doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it does, like it did for the Jags. What's

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Speaker 1: your thought on the general philosophies. You know, Mark that

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Speaker 1: have You see teams that haven't been there, and they're

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Speaker 1: trying to find that. And look, the one year that

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Speaker 1: we can say that that we know for a fact

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Speaker 1: we're really paid off for one year was Jacksonville. They

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Speaker 1: got Boye, they got Church, and they got Campbell, and

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Speaker 1: they hit home runs with all of them and they

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Speaker 1: were great. But then they played all right, all three

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Speaker 1: of them. A Church got bumped out of there, but

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Speaker 1: Boye was hurt a lot of the year and Campbell

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Speaker 1: was good last year. So yeah, you can. You can

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Speaker 1: hit a home run with a free agent and that

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Speaker 1: carries you through and hey, that's great. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams spending the money. You're spending the money because

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Speaker 1: they stunk. PFT did a whole thing about free agents

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Speaker 1: who signed it twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. How many are

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Speaker 1: with that team they signed it? They don't last long.

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Speaker 1: Even the real high priced good ones and I'll put

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Speaker 1: good in air quotes here. Ye. Look, we know and

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Speaker 1: you and I talk about this all the time. The

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Speaker 1: cycle in this league is two or three years anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exact four years max. You're gonna rotate most of if

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Speaker 1: your roster out every three or four years. My whole

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Speaker 1: take on the Trent Brown thing or players like that,

447
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Speaker 1: Juan James to a lesser extent, but with Brown in particular.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine are in the conference room

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Speaker 1: and they're talking and they're asking themselves, are we gonna

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Speaker 1: make Trent Brown the highest paid lineman in the history

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Speaker 1: of the National Football League? The highest paid lineman? Is

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Speaker 1: that who he is? And I know that numbers get

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Speaker 1: over inflated and it's market driven. And Kirk Cousins signs

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Speaker 1: for he signed for last year. But you don't want

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Speaker 1: to have to go there, and if you go there

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Speaker 1: more than once or even once, that could end up

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Speaker 1: costing your team dearly. And like you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: Brian Gaine, give him some time here, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone forgets about the Marris Thomas deal, which

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Speaker 1: ultimately did not work out because of the injury, which

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Speaker 1: was characteristic because Thomas was so durable. But he did

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Speaker 1: make a very aggressive in season move. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's all about in season. I know you weren't either,

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Speaker 1: But give him a minute here to come up with

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Speaker 1: some other things that could be very interesting for this roster.

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Speaker 1: They're not they know what they need, they know what

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Speaker 1: they need to do. Cal McNair said of himself, give

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Speaker 1: him a chance to work it out. And if you're

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Speaker 1: paying a guy like Trent Brown money, and there's another

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Speaker 1: guy available who's not quite as good as Trent Brown,

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Speaker 1: but he's ten million dollars a year less or whatever

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Speaker 1: the number would be, that's something you gotta take a

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Speaker 1: look at. Absolutely. And Trent Brown himself might be a

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Speaker 1: very unknown commodity in terms of consistency of play. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to consider here. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any questions so as far as what the Texans did,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Frank talked about it, and I saw.

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Speaker 1: I went back and started a couple of games of

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Speaker 1: to Sean Gibson and I watched him against tight Ends,

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Speaker 1: I watched him against Gronk. I watched that Week two game,

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Speaker 1: and there is a great shot off the broadcast. I

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Speaker 1: mean you can just go watch the broadcast. They try

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Speaker 1: and throw Gronk he's in the slot, and they try

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Speaker 1: and run a slot fade. They run smash basically, so

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Speaker 1: they run a hitch on the outside draw the corner,

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Speaker 1: so that gives a Gronk room to work towards the

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Speaker 1: corner of the end zone. And Gibson is just hand

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Speaker 1: fighting the whole way. And how many times have we

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Speaker 1: seen Gronk over the years, especially the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: just destroy our guys. Gibson just stays right with him.

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Speaker 1: Tom Camp put the ball in the spot. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's great one on one coverage against the tight end.

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Speaker 1: And that's what he did throughout. He did it to Arts,

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Speaker 1: he did it to Gronk, Um, he did it to Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: To Kelsey had a big play in the game against them,

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Speaker 1: but it was not because of Gibson. Well he's gonna

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Speaker 1: so Gibson, I think, is at half the money that

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Speaker 1: you would have paid Tyrn, you give it to Gibson.

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Speaker 1: I just that to me is smart financial management. And

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Speaker 1: then you bring in Bradley Robie. Now Bradley would be

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Speaker 1: the first one to tell you kind of up and

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Speaker 1: down at times, and there are times where he looks

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Speaker 1: really good. Now I watched two games. I watched three games.

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Speaker 1: I watched the both the Chiefs game because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to see what he looked like against Tyreek Hill. So

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Speaker 1: ironic was not happening to Tyreek, and we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens with that situation. But I watched him against Tyreek,

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Speaker 1: and I watched a couple of routes, in particular, in

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Speaker 1: the first game, the Money Night game, down in the

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Speaker 1: end zone, the Chiefs were trying to isolate Tyreek one

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Speaker 1: on one, and they did. They isolated on Robie one

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Speaker 1: on one. There were three different routes and Robie stuck

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Speaker 1: in his hip every time mahomes haid throw the ball once,

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Speaker 1: throw away, once, he had to throw to other guys twice.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't even get into Tyreek. Then there are moments

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Speaker 1: where against the way I watched the Rams game too,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks running a slant route just Boom just gets

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Speaker 1: inside of him. Not even slam route. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: running just a deep over route like like we see

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Speaker 1: will Fuller up and Robie just he gave up the

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Speaker 1: inside because he knew he had help and then Cooks

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Speaker 1: just was able to beat him to the spot. But

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Speaker 1: a little while later, Cooks ran a similar route, except

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Speaker 1: instead of running the deep deep route, he ran the

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Speaker 1: over route. Robie got in the same position and then

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Speaker 1: darted in front and knocked the pass down. I was like, boy,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty that's pretty good. So look, when you play

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Speaker 1: that much man and man as they did in Denver,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get beat. But I felt like watching him

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Speaker 1: one on one leaps and bounds beyond what our guys

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Speaker 1: were doing last year in one on one situations. And

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Speaker 1: then body Calhoun is interesting because we talked about him

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Speaker 1: during the Cleveland game. I've I've been a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of his since he was at Minnesota. Loved him. He's

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Speaker 1: a ball magnet. He found the football, he was a

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Speaker 1: ball hawk. He just made plays. I just love that.

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Speaker 1: And then going and watching a few games of his

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Speaker 1: trying to find what he did well covering as a

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Speaker 1: nickel inside. There's the player did from my football one

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Speaker 1: on one it stood out because if there's one game

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Speaker 1: I've watched this offseason more than any other, markets the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia game. Yea, and defensively it was so frustrating to

543
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Speaker 1: watch all the different pick and rub routes that they

544
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Speaker 1: ran against us, and our guys would run into each other.

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Speaker 1: And look, we had a couple of guys injured that game,

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Speaker 1: and so it just the continuity was just how we're

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Speaker 1: covering those guys. Just Yeah, Deontay Burton was playing, Yeah,

548
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Speaker 1: ton of snaps, absolutely, and Tyrone had moved down into

549
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Speaker 1: where Kareem was playing at the nickel. So he was

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Speaker 1: just different and guys were running into each other. And

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Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw how he navigated the picker out.

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Speaker 1: They ran against him on a third and two late

553
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Speaker 1: in the game, and he tackles the receiver for a

554
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Speaker 1: one yard loss, and I went, WHOA. So he gives

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Speaker 1: you a little something in coverage as well. So you've

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Speaker 1: got a guy that can play in the nickel. You

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00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: got a guy in Robie that's gonna play the outside,

558
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Speaker 1: could also play the nickel if you need him. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got a free safety and Gibson that can

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Speaker 1: rotate down to play the run. He could play the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field. He can also cover a tight

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Speaker 1: end one on one. Ask any Texans fan this offseason, anybody,

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Speaker 1: what were the problems of the Texas the last five

564
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: games of the year, and they would tell you every

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Speaker 1: single one of those things. Then they've addressed them with

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Speaker 1: these guys. Are they the right guys? You won't know,

567
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: but at least they know, Hey, look we've got to

568
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: address these things. And those are the players that they

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Speaker 1: felt like we're gonna fit and they're gonna go after.

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Speaker 1: And look, Bradley Roby one year, ten million dollars. It's

571
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Speaker 1: to prove a deal. So Roby's got the opportunity to do.

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Speaker 1: You know what Tyran did, and I think when you

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Speaker 1: step back and you look at we got one year

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Speaker 1: of Tyron Matthew. It was great for the twenty eighteen

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00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: Texans and then he got a deal to go to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else. It was kind of win win on

577
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: both sides. So you signed the one year deal to

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Speaker 1: prove it it. Bradley just breaks the bank and the

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Speaker 1: Texans are not ready to bring him back in just

580
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Speaker 1: an astronomical number. Oh, you end up getting a third

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Speaker 1: round pick out of it. Yep. So for Tyron Matthew,

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Speaker 1: what you're doing, wink wink, is you're paying, and you're

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Speaker 1: paying for a third round draft pick potentially potentially and

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Speaker 1: results on the field in nineteen. Right, all right, John

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Speaker 1: Harris sticks around. We'll talk about what's going on with

586
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: your Texans this offseason. Rodeo over guys are going to

587
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: be in within a month to start the offseason conditioning program.

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00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Plus the Texans twenty nineteen opponents. How does the schedule

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00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: look now? Again, we don't have the final schedule, but

590
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: we know the opponents. How does it look now? Following

591
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Speaker 1: the first wave of free agency. It's Texans Radio at

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Speaker 1: NRG Stadium in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandermer

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00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: with you. John Harris stays with us. Deep City comes

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Speaker 1: into the studio. How's it going, DP, It's good. I

595
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: just had to push a bunch of Rodeo people out

596
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Speaker 1: of my way to get down here because the Rodeo

597
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: is moving out. They're cleaning up. They're cleaning up. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of sad, no, but it's kind of dirty. They're

599
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: cleaning up is kind of dirty. There's just like a

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00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: trail of dirt and then I know, are people you

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Speaker 1: know here a kind of you know what they did

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00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: that was impressive though. They got all the dirt off

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Speaker 1: the floor for Sunday's concert with George Straight. So Saturday

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00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: night they went right to work after that show and

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00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: they got all the dirt removed because for the George

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00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: Strait concert there was no dirt on the floor. George

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Speaker 1: was a straight concert, no straight concert, no no dirt,

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Speaker 1: no Rodeo festivities concert on straight straight concert. Is that

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Speaker 1: the best way to end Rodeo with a George Straight concert? Probably?

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Speaker 1: I think I saw Garth Brooks last year and he

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00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: opened and closed right, and he had Tricia Yearwood on

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Speaker 1: stage with him. It was pretty freaking good. I mean

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Speaker 1: Tricia Yearwood. She didn't do walk away straight. This is

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Speaker 1: don't mess with tech. Yeah, I know, George Straight was

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Speaker 1: better than Garth Brooks. I would think. Yeah. As far

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Speaker 1: as far as the appropriate guided the Rodeo, yeah, Mark,

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Speaker 1: If you could bring any rock act to the Rodeo,

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Speaker 1: who would it be, because they always bring one A

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Speaker 1: couple of non country But who which out of the

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Speaker 1: non rock? Well, the non country that are that are

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Speaker 1: the non country that are rock that are still that

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Speaker 1: are still a lot that are still alive. My favorite

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Speaker 1: bands of too many dead people in them, Leonard skinnerd

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Speaker 1: Anymore right, Yallman brothers. Do they even do anything without

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Speaker 1: Greg Allman because he's dead? So, you know, even I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking the Southern Rock you know, I know Charlie Daniels

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Speaker 1: is still alive, but he can't fill the building for

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Speaker 1: the rodeo. You can't do it. Stones, Well, the Stones

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Speaker 1: shouldn't play the rodeo. See to me. I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: know the Cowboy had CARDI be did it? I guess so,

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Speaker 1: I guess. So something to think about. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: to listen to some younger, more alive bands. More alive,

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Speaker 1: Let's dead, that's the goal less dead? What's left of

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Speaker 1: the grateful dead? Bob? We're phil let I don't know whoever? Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you got here? By the way, before we

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Speaker 1: get to what the Texans are up to? Yes, how

637
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Speaker 1: does the schedule change with some of the free agency

638
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: moves that have taken place in the division? Has Jacksonville changed? Oh?

639
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Yes they have. They have Nick Foles now quarterback. You're

640
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: going to see him twice. Okay, I'm gonna say this

641
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: because I've vented the DP. When you got on the

642
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: air about this and we had Frank on earlier. You

643
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: know how much I love Frank and I know they

644
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: should be excited about Nick Foles. Yeah, but I think

645
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Frank pointed out too, and you could hear it in

646
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: his voice. There's still trepidation because don't right, right, think

647
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: about what Nick Foles is thrown too. And we saw

648
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: him in December. Yeah, he was thrown out of the

649
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: backfield of Darren Sprowls. You're stoning al Sean, Jeffrey Stone

650
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: and Nelson Aguilar. He's throwing to the best tight end

651
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: of the game in Zach Ertz. Yep, who's he throwing

652
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: too in Jacksonville. Yeah, it's a luxury car. He was

653
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: operating in Philly and Wentz operated it very well and

654
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: so did Falls and Folds was able to win a

655
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with it. And look, if all Sean Jeffrey

656
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Speaker 1: hangs on to a late game pass against the Saints,

657
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: they might be getting to the NFC Championship game. Bingo.

658
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: So how about that? I mean, the Falls is real good,

659
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Speaker 1: I get it, but you're right, Johnny, the supporting cast

660
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: might not be there. How about Denver. I saw a

661
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 1: picture that Denver had put the Broncos put on their

662
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Instagram of Joe Flacco, and I thought, that's just gonna

663
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: be so weird to see Flacco in Orange. It is

664
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Speaker 1: weird and not purple, but how different you know, Or

665
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Speaker 1: the Broncos gonna look this year. Yeah, they're gonna kareem

666
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: over there. Fangio. I think what Flacco has they didn't

667
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: have the last couple of years in Baltimore was with

668
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay and then beyond him, Royce Freeman. They've got

669
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: a running game, but they better protect Flacco too, and

670
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: that was not something that they were doing last year.

671
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Getting with Case Keena, they did not do that very well.

672
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: At least case he got out of the podet. They

673
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't have to scramble, he could move a little bit

674
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: they needed to, but they didn't. And they've got to

675
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: do a better job of that. If Denver thinks that

676
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna take, it's gonna take that next step. I

677
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: think Oakland gets very intriguing with Antonio Brown obviously being

678
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: added to the mix, going down the field, being in

679
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: front of him, me, Derek Carr, you know, ends up

680
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: getting some weapons out in Oakland and I'm forgetting who

681
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: the other day signed another receiver out in Oakland and

682
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember who that is. It's drawn a

683
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Speaker 1: blank on it. But the Raiders. The Raiders have made

684
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: some moves, but where I think the Raiders still are

685
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: going to struggle. And they signed LaMarcus Joiners of safety,

686
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: but they're still young upfront. Now they've got a lot

687
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: of draft picks. It's gonna be a young defense. I'd

688
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: rather catch these guys now because in a year or two,

689
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Speaker 1: if they draft well in this draft like they should

690
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, I think the

691
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: Raiders could end up being pretty salty again. But it

692
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: all comes back to what's Derek Carr going to do

693
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: with all his new weapons and toys? I think. So

694
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: back to Flacco for a moment. If you're Denver, how

695
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: do you really feel about this? If you're a Bronco

696
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: fan media member, how do you really feel about Flacco

697
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: coming to Denver? I mean I would be excited. You're

698
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze the last drops out of whatever he's

699
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: gotten his career, you know, not everybody. I think what

700
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: happens is and Flacco has had this eternal it's the

701
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: comedy debate. Is Joe Flacco elite? He won a Super Bowl?

702
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: He was playing really well for a long time and

703
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: made the playoffs the first five years of his career,

704
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: won a playoff game in each of those seasons at

705
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: least one playoff victory, so he had some accomplishments there,

706
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: but lately it hasn't been as pretty. There have been

707
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: moments and I'm just wondering how the Broncos really feel

708
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: about this. It would not excite me that much. I'd

709
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: still want to see a young player coming. Well, what

710
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: if they still draft a quarterback and then they have

711
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: Flacco there and you just have somebody, and then I'd

712
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Speaker 1: be excited about that situation because I think gets a

713
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: little bit more stable than what they've had ever since

714
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning retired. Yeah yeah, yeah, Blac is out. Who

715
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about with? No Tyrrell Williams. Okay, So they

716
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: signed Terrell Williams and they signed Antonio Brown and then

717
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: they signed Trent Brown at left tackle. They significantly significantly

718
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: improved that offense. Now, offense was not always the problem

719
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: last year. It was could they stop anybody? So we'll

720
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: see what they end up doing. But I'm Mark, I'm

721
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: with you on a Flacco situation. I saw that trade,

722
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we got it, didn't it didn't

723
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: phaze like, oh great, we get the face Flacco. I

724
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: don't mind facing guys like Nick Foles and Joe Flacco

725
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: with this defense, because you know where that guy is

726
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna be every drop, every pass drop. You know he's

727
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna be at that spot X marks the spot where Watt, Clowney,

728
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: whomever can find you that we gotta take advantage. What

729
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: about its former team. They're on the schedule, the Ravens

730
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: are going up there to play in Baltimore, and they've

731
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: got some key losses. You know, you could talk about,

732
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: oh they've got this young hot quarterback and everything, but

733
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: they lost some guys. They lost c. J. Mosley, they

734
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: lose Eric Weddle. That off a good defense. Sugs, Yeah, Sugs.

735
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: I want to see how they perform on that side

736
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: of the football. So Darius Smith too. Sadarius was sneaky

737
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: pass rush year. I thought he was really good. Look,

738
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 1: they still have match jud On. I think he's gonna

739
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: take a bigger role coming off the edge, but now

740
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: he's the focus. Juno could always get away with the

741
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: fact that sug was on the other side, or is

742
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: it Arius is on the other side. They're gonna get

743
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: some attention and Juno was gonna go one on one

744
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: and that's how he won a lot. But he becomes

745
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: the guy for them defensively with no C. J. Mosley, boy,

746
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna be trouble. And look, if Lamar doesn't take

747
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: steps to improve his passing and they continue to be

748
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: one dimensional running the football could be tough. I mean

749
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Speaker 1: it could be tough. But they add mark Ingram the adder,

750
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: old Thomas, So how much those guys still have in

751
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: the tank we'll find out. But also last year he

752
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: sort of jumped into the mix during the season. Now

753
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: with the whole off season, I wonder how different that

754
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: offense is gonna look. They won't have to run him

755
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: as much. Right, Greg Roam was taken over. Who is

756
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator with the forty nine ers when Kapp

757
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: was there, when Kaepernick was there, So I still think

758
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna see some or a lot of the same elements,

759
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: but you're gonna see wrinkles off of them, and the

760
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: wrinkles are going to be the passing game. But he's

761
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: got to improve. Look, he's got a couple of young

762
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: tight ends of throat too. I think they're gonna be

763
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: pretty difficult but I guarantee this Foals and Flacco, I'll

764
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: face them one hundred times before I face Lamar Jackson.

765
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Or how about the Browns. Thank goodness that we don't

766
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: play the Browns this year because how everybody's like, everybody's

767
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: afraid to face the Browns. Well, hey, you don't want

768
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: to lose to the Browns. But the second of all,

769
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: they've really made some moves this offseason. In Baker Mayfield.

770
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: We saw what he could do last year. Well that's phenomenal.

771
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: Though that we're even saying that, good for them. I'm

772
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: not ready to go there. I know that Cleveland they

773
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: produced some yardage here in the second half, and they did,

774
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: they did, but they had some drops defensively. I'm still

775
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: not sold. I'm still not sold defensive Look, Miles Garrett

776
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: is going to be a really good pass rusher. I

777
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: get that. And they added Olivier Vernon, but they traded Peppers,

778
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: but they traded Peppers the second which they didn't want to,

779
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: but they had to to get Obj. So now they're

780
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: down a first round pick, and I still think they've

781
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: got some issues and they've they've lost Jamie Collins, so

782
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how good Cleveland right now is going

783
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: to be defensively. I think Cleveland is going to get

784
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: better by the time we would face them in the playoffs.

785
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: I think they would be okay, but I don't think

786
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: they're fantast what are The hosts on NFL Radio said

787
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: that all the Browns fans will be super disappointed if

788
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: they don't go to the Super Bowl. I'm thinking, are

789
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: not that stupid? Okay, give them a little respect. They've

790
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: been following a losing team forever. They'll be happy to

791
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and win a playoff game. I

792
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: don't think your expectations can be any higher than that.

793
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: I would not if I'm Cleveland, I would not have

794
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: made the deal for Obj. Would not have done it.

795
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: In fact, my in laws are Giants fans because they're

796
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: all from New York, and my father in law was

797
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: really upset they traded OBJ. Said, listen, listen, Steve, they

798
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: got a king's ransom for Obj. You should be thrilled.

799
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: As a Giants fan, you should be thrilled about this.

800
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Dude got a one and a three and up starting safety.

801
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? But they're also talking about Eli Manning

802
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: as they're as continuing along with Eli Manning to that point.

803
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's a smoke screen that

804
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're two. Well, number one,

805
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: their actions say that it's not. Their actions are all saying, well,

806
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: right now the benefit of the doubt. Now they might

807
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: go to Dwayne Haskins at number six, if Haskins is

808
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: still there in the draft, they could do that, They

809
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: should do that. I don't. I don't know about that.

810
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: But point being, if you're if you're gonna here's here's

811
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: my here's my thing. You had the opportunity last year

812
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: to trade ob J. Why didn't you trade him last

813
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: year when you didn't have to pay him and then

814
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: take a cap hit. You're taking a twenty one twenty

815
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: twenty one million dollar cap hit this year after trading him.

816
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Now you're getting a first back and you know it's

817
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: it's good first it's seventeen, But why pay him? I

818
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: just don't understand why. If you're if you I know

819
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: that no NFL GM wants to say they're in tear

820
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: down mode, but you have to recognize where you are

821
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning and oh Man OBJ, that's not going

822
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: to be the right to fit you got, you got

823
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: rid of Snacks, Harrison, you got you're not signing Landing College.

824
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: It's like one it's like one side of your brain

825
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: is making decisions and the other side is then, well, no,

826
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: we want to do this. So it's like there's it's

827
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: like two things are going on. It's like they should

828
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: have just gone all in. Look, we're gonna we're gonna

829
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: tear this thing down quickly and build it back up.

830
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Eli's dumb. We're drafting a quarterback, or we're getting a

831
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: young quarterback, Obj, we're trading him, Snacks were trading him,

832
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Landing College were not signing him. I mean, all these

833
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: all these various things that could have happened. But it's

834
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of like their half step. It's like we're gonna

835
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: do these things, but then we're gonna continue on this way.

836
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: It's like it just doesn't it doesn't jive. Yeah, they're

837
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: not all in just yet. But I wonder if once

838
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: they draft a quarterback and if Eli continues down the

839
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: path that he was on last year, then it's the

840
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: same thing that happened with Baltimore last year. So So

841
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: here's here's my suggestion. I had suggested a few months

842
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: ago let's see if you agree with me now, because

843
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: I think the price would be cheaper. The Arizona Cardinals say,

844
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: we'll give you a two for Josh Rosen. You get

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Speaker 1: out of the twenty eighteen draft Barkley and Rosen and

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Speaker 1: that's your future. For a two, you get Josh Rosen.

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Speaker 1: Alarm you? How do you lie? Man? And you're doing it?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? Yes or no? No in a second,

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Speaker 1: yes in a second. I'm not their guy. Well, they

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Speaker 1: have to evaluate him to be their guy. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: But I'm assuming that Haskins is more their guy than

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Speaker 1: Rosen because I feel like you always feel you always

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Speaker 1: think the ceiling is higher with the guys with En gets.

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Speaker 1: Rosen gets a really bad rap for being the smartest

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Speaker 1: guy in the room kind of thing. I think Rosen

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Speaker 1: gets a really bad rap for that. He's worth a two,

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Speaker 1: especially if you feel like you can't draft with your

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Speaker 1: first round picks. You can't going to be there, right,

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Speaker 1: but you can trade up with your picks, could but

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Speaker 1: be worth it. I'd rather get my guys whoever I want.

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Speaker 1: At least I've got tape on Rosen in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: right and with a bad team. So I did some things.

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Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't great, but he did some things

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Speaker 1: that would make you feel like he's definitely worth the

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Speaker 1: second round pick. The point is this, you have picks

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Speaker 1: to maneuver. Now if you're the Giants. Boy, we're getting

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Speaker 1: into these teams that the Texas don't even play. What

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Speaker 1: about the NFC South though, because they do play the

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Speaker 1: NFC South and any seismic moves there, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have to see Ryan Fitzpatrick coming off the bench for

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay or filling in for Jamis Winston. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean Arians made a couple of moves.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dionne Buchanan, linebacker goes there from Arizona, played

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Speaker 1: for Arians. He goes to Tampa Bay. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Saints losing Mark Ingram. I'm curious to see how that

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Speaker 1: that plays because Ingram and Camara had a really nice

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Speaker 1: Tannam together. I wish they lost Camaro. Yeah, the Panthers

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Speaker 1: lost Thomas Davis and they kind of knew that was coming.

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Speaker 1: He goes to La Chargers, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's anything that huge deal there. Just goes to the

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Speaker 1: Colts from the Panthers. So the Panthers did so the

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Speaker 1: Panthers time Matt Peartis, which is going to be pretty

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Speaker 1: interesting because he broke his leg against us UM when

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Speaker 1: when Case got sacked, he broke his leg, and so

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Speaker 1: he signed a massive deal. He signed for a center.

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Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, he got paid. So that's that's one.

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Speaker 1: But Ale, it's a center. You know. Isn't the NFC

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Speaker 1: South the most jekyl and high type of division in

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Speaker 1: the NFL last eight years or so, or really ever

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Speaker 1: since Cam Newton has been in the league, Because you've

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Speaker 1: had Atlanta looked really good and then bad for a while.

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Speaker 1: Then they go to the Super Bowl, they blow twenty

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Speaker 1: eight to three, and then not so much, uh not

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Speaker 1: so hot anymore, lose to Philly, and then what happened

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Speaker 1: last year. Then you look at New Orleans up and down,

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Speaker 1: you know, won a Super Bowl at O nine and

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Speaker 1: then kind of bottomed out for a while after going

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Speaker 1: to the Greenbrier. Interesting, you know, the Bruce arians is

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Speaker 1: going to make a big difference in Tampa. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's a wild card make a difference. But it's

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Speaker 1: just a but get to get Jamis back on track.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the whole key. I feel like there's still

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Speaker 1: something he kept saying that about Jacksonville, like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jackson would get Bordles on track, but Jackson good, they

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Speaker 1: can get him on jack I think Winston's got more

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Speaker 1: natural ability. But that's that's even more of the problem.

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Speaker 1: Is you've got to harness more of that. You gotta take.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jamis, Jamis, that is a problem child. Bruce

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Speaker 1: Arians has got his handsful when he went to Arizona

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Speaker 1: and he got Carson Palmer. Like Carson was he was

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Speaker 1: at least he was polished. Arians made him better. Jamis

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Speaker 1: Winston is this wild colt that he's got to try

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Speaker 1: and break all the bad habits of and get a

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Speaker 1: good season out of, which may not be this year.

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Speaker 1: I think what happens in Tampa Bay is early on

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Speaker 1: they struggle. I want to catch Tampa Bay early. I

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Speaker 1: think they'll struggle early, but then they'll start to kind

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Speaker 1: of find it, and I think Tampa Bay's offense will

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Speaker 1: then kind of take off from there. All right, deep,

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Speaker 1: what about the Texans? What are they up to? Because

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Speaker 1: the rodeo is over, like we said, in about a

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Speaker 1: month offseason conditioning begins. But I know, the guys of

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Speaker 1: working out, doing their things kind of out and about Tampa,

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Speaker 1: out and about the countryside as well. Yeah, you see

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Speaker 1: guys on well, I to do likes in Step every week.

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Speaker 1: So you see guys working out, Vincent Smith running drills,

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Speaker 1: and you know, obviously Deshaun Watson, DeAndre Hopkins are out

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Speaker 1: and about, they're traveling, They're also working out. Lamar Miller

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Speaker 1: working out. Justin Reid is back at Stanford both working

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Speaker 1: out and taking classes and management science and engineering. And

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Speaker 1: I want to promote the fifty three Texans TV production.

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Speaker 1: It's coming out on Wednesday. You'll see a little sneak

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Speaker 1: peek of it tomorrow on Houston Texans dot com. I

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Speaker 1: got to watch the whole thing. It's really really good.

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Speaker 1: I did watch it and I played some of the

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Speaker 1: comments by David Shaw, the head coach of Stanford, about

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Speaker 1: read about Stanford nights on this Texans roster. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite interviews ever. Oh, you had a

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Speaker 1: very Bryan Awards over the years. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: one of the absolute best and I love I love

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Speaker 1: when he comes and every time that he's a finalist,

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Speaker 1: finalists have they have to commit to coming. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so whenever we call within literally in five minutes every time,

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Speaker 1: he's like, look, you just tell me when I'm a

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Speaker 1: finalist and I'm there. He loves coming. It's a great guy,

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Speaker 1: knows the NFL really well. All right, that's all the

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Speaker 1: time we have for today. How about that? It just

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Speaker 1: zoomed by, zoomed on by. Hopefully the offseason does two. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's get right right to check out Houston Texans dot

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Speaker 1: com for all the videos, articles, info about your team.

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Speaker 1: Download the app and check out Texans three sixty Almost

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Speaker 1: forgot the name of the show Saturday night as eleven

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Speaker 1: o'clock on ABC thirteen. Have a great night everyone, and

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Speaker 1: go Texans.