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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition

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Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot to talking about today. Big spike in the

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Speaker 1: inflation numbers, Biden economy continues to sputter. We have update

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Speaker 1: on COVID case numbers, the vaccine that they're pushing on

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Speaker 1: your kids, plus climate change madness. But right now as

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Speaker 1: we're speaking to you, the Kyle Rittenhouse case. He's underway

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Speaker 1: in Connosha, Wisconsin. And fact Kyle Rittenhouse has, to the

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Speaker 1: surprise of many, taken his own defense. He is on

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Speaker 1: the stand. He is being cross examined right now. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to it live. The charges against me, it was

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Speaker 1: denied because of the charges here in this state. You

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Speaker 1: found out about that after you were criminally charged in

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Speaker 1: this case. I found out about this in November of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Letter was sent to my old residents. So

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Speaker 1: you knew that without that foid car, the gun could

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Speaker 1: not go back to your residence in Illinois, correct, Correct,

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Speaker 1: And you agreed that the gun would be kept at

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Speaker 1: Dominic Black's stepfather's house here in Kenosha. Correct, because he

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Speaker 1: had a safe. Yes, and you agreed that you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have access to that gun. Correct. We agreed that the

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Speaker 1: only time I would use the gun is when I

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Speaker 1: would when I was with him and we would go

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Speaker 1: to like the Bristol shooting range or up north to

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Speaker 1: his land. For the only time prior to the night

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Speaker 1: of August twenty fifth, twenty twenty that you ever used

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Speaker 1: that gun was up in Ladysmith, correct. Correct, So you

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Speaker 1: didn't go to the Bristol shooting range ever, I did

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Speaker 1: not with that rifle, but I did pay attention to

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Speaker 1: my question. Please, You didn't ever go to the Bristol

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Speaker 1: shooting range with that gun? Correct? Correct? And you picked

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Speaker 1: out that gun because dominic Correct. Yeah, you could have

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to chosen from any number of guns

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Speaker 1: that were for sale. Fair enough that we're at that store,

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Speaker 1: there weren't many. But yes, I'm sure the store and

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Speaker 1: Ladysmith isn't the only store that sells gun's corrects. That

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Speaker 1: was all much don't know. It was a statement, isn't

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Speaker 1: it correct, mister Rittenhouse that there are other places to

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Speaker 1: purchase guns besides that one store in Ladysmith, Wisconsin. Um,

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Speaker 1: I believe so, but that's where we're at. So that's

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Speaker 1: why we got the god and you, if you wanted to,

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Speaker 1: could have given Dominant Black money to purchase a gun

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Speaker 1: at other locations. Did across my mind. But now that

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Speaker 1: you say it, yeah, why did you pick or want

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Speaker 1: Dominant elect to buy for you and a R fifteen

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Speaker 1: as opposed to a pistol or a shotgun or some

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Speaker 1: other type of rifle. I cannot legally possess or carry

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Speaker 1: a pistol because I'm not eighteen and Wisconsin. I believe

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Speaker 1: it's eighteen and Wisconsin for a pistol. But with the

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Speaker 1: walk with the rifle, I knew, I knew I could

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Speaker 1: possess that rifle. I knew I couldn't buy it, but

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Speaker 1: I knew I could like take it to like the

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Speaker 1: shooting range or possess it. It was shotguns. They didn't

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Speaker 1: have any shotguns and stock. That was my original plan

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Speaker 1: to get a shotgun for trap shooting, but there weren't

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Speaker 1: any at that ladys Ladysmith store, and I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to go to Walmart and buy one. So you're understanding

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Speaker 1: at that time was that Wisconsin law prohibited you as

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Speaker 1: a seventeen year old from possessing a pistol, but you

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Speaker 1: could have an aar fifteen. Yes, what was that understanding

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Speaker 1: based on the understanding was based on when we would

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Speaker 1: go up north we were it was me, Dominic and

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Speaker 1: my sister and we were allowed to carry the rifles around,

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Speaker 1: and the officers over there said it was fine, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to move to strike this hearsay. It's what officers

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Speaker 1: what would have told question what the source of this

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Speaker 1: knowledge was. It's not admissible and none of this is, frankly,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I interrupted before. What the what the

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Speaker 1: defendant believes the law to be, what the district attorney

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Speaker 1: believes the lot to be, what the defense believes the

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Speaker 1: lot to be are irrelevant. I will tell you when

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Speaker 1: I instruct you what the law of Wisconsin is pertaining

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Speaker 1: to the possession of a firm by a person under eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and that'll be the source of your knowledge. I am

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Speaker 1: allowing the testimony right now because it bears on um.

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Speaker 1: There's an old maxim under the law of ignorancia euris

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Speaker 1: non excusat. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

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Speaker 1: Ignorance of the criminal law is not an excuse. If

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Speaker 1: you come in a wrong a criminal act, whether you

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Speaker 1: knew it was criminal or not, you're responsible for your conduct,

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Speaker 1: and because you're responsible to know the law, it's not relevant.

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Speaker 1: Except in this case there are specific issues about his

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Speaker 1: awareness and knowledge about certain conduct that is relevant on

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Speaker 1: some issues. So it's quite complicated. Hopefully it'll sort out

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Speaker 1: when I instruct you at the end. But that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm allowing the questions and the answers. But do not

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Speaker 1: be confused about what anything that these people say is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily accurate as to the state of Wisconsin law.

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Speaker 1: Any question about that? Okay, thanks, go ahead. So you're

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Speaker 1: telling us that the reason that you wanted Dominic to

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Speaker 1: buy you an AAR fifteen as opposed to a pistol

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Speaker 1: is the only reason was because you felt you couldn't

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Speaker 1: lawfully possess a pistol. Correct. You didn't pick out the

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Speaker 1: air fifteen for any other reason. I thought it looked cool.

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Speaker 1: But now you didn't pick it out because you wanted

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Speaker 1: to go hunting with it, did you? Now you didn't

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Speaker 1: pick it out because you were going to use it

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Speaker 1: to protect your house. Correct? Correct, you picked it out

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Speaker 1: because it looked cool. I thought it looked cool. That's

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Speaker 1: the reason. Yes, he resembled the types of weapons that

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Speaker 1: are used in first person shooter video games. Correct. I

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Speaker 1: don't really play first person shooter video games I have,

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Speaker 1: but I believe there's a variety of guns, including shotguns, pistols.

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Speaker 1: There's guns and video games that resemble all guns. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it true when you would hang out out with Dominic

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Speaker 1: Black you play Call of Duty and other first person

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Speaker 1: shooter video games sometimes, and those are games in which

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Speaker 1: you use weapons like a AR fifteens to pretty much

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Speaker 1: shoot anybody who comes at you. Correct, it's a video

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Speaker 1: game where two players are playing together. I don't really

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Speaker 1: understand the meaning of your question, to be honest. Isn't

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Speaker 1: one of the things people do in these video games

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Speaker 1: try and kill everyone else with your guns? Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: video game, it's just a video game. It's that real life. Now.

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Speaker 1: You introduced yourself as living in Walworth Country, right now?

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Speaker 1: Is that right on the date that this all happened,

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Speaker 1: you were an Illinois residence. Correct, you had grown up

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Speaker 1: in Illinois. Correct, you had not spent any significant time

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Speaker 1: living here in Wisconsin and correct, No, you'd agree with me,

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Speaker 1: that's correct. Now, right, I've spent time in my father's

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Speaker 1: house and partially live here also, so no, it's not correct.

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Speaker 1: You indicated you had attended was it then Foster High School? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's an online high school. Correct, So you were not

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Speaker 1: attending high school in person? Now all right, So you're

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Speaker 1: hearing there the real time live cross examination of Kyle

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Speaker 1: rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin for the trial going on there

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Speaker 1: where Kyle shot and killed two shot and wounded a third.

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Speaker 1: He claims in self defense. It certainly seems based on

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Speaker 1: the prosecution's case so far. The prosecutor just stepped away

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Speaker 1: for a second. We'll continue to watch this, that self

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Speaker 1: defense is very viable, Clay. Just the big moment here

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Speaker 1: is everyone I know I've had I have defense attorney's

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Speaker 1: texting me right now, friends of mine saying, putting Kyle

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Speaker 1: on the stand in this way it's high risk, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty riveting to hear him explain in his

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Speaker 1: own words what went on here and what his position

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Speaker 1: is and why he had to use lethal force to

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Speaker 1: defend himself. It's riveting. You usually do not see a

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Speaker 1: not to mention a seventeen or eighteen year old kid,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to continue. I would suggest to break

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Speaker 1: in and share elements of this testimony because he may

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Speaker 1: be on the stand four hours. They are carrying it

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Speaker 1: live on television, and this is the final part of

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Speaker 1: the trial to see whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse is

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Speaker 1: going to be found guilty in this case. But I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Buck, based on what I have seen,

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Speaker 1: Rittenhouse is holding himself up pretty well on the witness

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Speaker 1: from the prosecutor. He doesn't seem to be scoring in

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Speaker 1: the context of Remember we talked about how the jury

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Speaker 1: is going to perceive the interaction between the two grasping

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Speaker 1: its draws with this first person video game stuff, and

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Speaker 1: he's trying to get him on technicalities of firearm law

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Speaker 1: that are you know, in the state of Wisconsin. Specifically,

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Speaker 1: this is a case about self defense and lethal use

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Speaker 1: of force. That's what the case is really about. And

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Speaker 1: the defense attorney here, I think I'm sorry the prosecution

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Speaker 1: rather realizes that their case so far has been very

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Speaker 1: Their key witnesses said, basically, I was trying to hurt

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Speaker 1: him when he shot me, or other people said the

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Speaker 1: guy that got shot and killed was trying to hurt him.

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Speaker 1: In one case, even a guy's a convicted sex offender

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Speaker 1: who was coming at him to do Kyle rittenhouse harm

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Speaker 1: was shot and killed in the process of trying to

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Speaker 1: assault him. If that's not self defense, there's no substing

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Speaker 1: as self defense. It doesn't matter why he was in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, you know, whether he plays call of

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Speaker 1: duty or not. And it's fascinating to see the facts

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Speaker 1: I'm not just I'm not exaggerating. We could play the audio,

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Speaker 1: said he was a terror, said he was a white nationalist,

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Speaker 1: All lies. That is obviously not true. And this case,

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Speaker 1: to me seems like an easy one for any fair

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Speaker 1: this to me seems like clear self defense. We will

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Speaker 1: come back and Kyle is still going on the stand,

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Speaker 1: out that it's just, you know, real complicated. Seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand people have died because of COVID, seven

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Speaker 1: und fifty thousand people. The psychological scars that has put

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Speaker 1: on so many people. Schools had not been opened because

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Speaker 1: of COVID, and they're just getting open again. We're in

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Speaker 1: a situation where there's a lot of a lot of anxiety.

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Speaker 1: Gas prices are up exceedingly high. They're not up this

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Speaker 1: high before, but not recently. Gas Preyer. That's why I

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Speaker 1: have the Attorney General taking a look at whether or

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Speaker 1: not these gas companies are gouging people because although the

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Speaker 1: hadn't come down some. So there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that had people that are really a great deal of anxiety,

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Speaker 1: a great deal of concern. I mean, he's just an ignoramus.

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Speaker 1: What he says doesn't even make sense. This is the problem, Buck,

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Speaker 1: with having an administration that has so many people who

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Speaker 1: don't understand basic business. And I know there's a ton

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Speaker 1: of people out there listening to us right now that

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Speaker 1: are just like, thank you for saying something that is

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Speaker 1: transparent and clear. But even the media doesn't really press

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Speaker 1: him on the idea. I mean, this is pure madness, Buck.

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Speaker 1: The idea that the government can spend trillions of dollars,

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Speaker 1: which we're now going to be doing because of infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: and which we've been doing because of COVID, and then

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Speaker 1: we're going to remake the budget, and that the government

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Speaker 1: is going to spend trillions of dollars more and that

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Speaker 1: inflation is not going to get worse is contrary to

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Speaker 1: any intelligent economic analysis of the situation. The idea that

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Speaker 1: you print more money and spend more money by the

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Speaker 1: government is one of the primary ways that inflation arises

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Speaker 1: in the first place. And I thought there's a good

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Speaker 1: point made last year. You know, as we were talking

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Speaker 1: year later. It's all a failure of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about back in March, when you know

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Speaker 1: everybody made a run on toilet paper. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis, fuck Sex and Show. Encourage you

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Speaker 1: a single moment where you're going to be joined by

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Speaker 1: doctor Marty McCarry here in what next the hour to

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Speaker 1: talk about his piece on whether or not children should

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Speaker 1: be vaccinated for COVID ages five to eleven that he

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Speaker 1: had in the Wall Street Journal I believe it was

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Speaker 1: in yesterday's print edition of the Wall Street Journal, and

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Speaker 1: discussed the latest COVID data. That's going to be I

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Speaker 1: In every commercial break, Buck and I are turning and

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Speaker 1: listening to the audio of Kyle Rittenhouse on the witness

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Speaker 1: stand right now live in Kenosha, Wisconsin. We may join

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Speaker 1: being said at the top of the second hour of

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Speaker 1: the program. But Buck, this prosecutor is getting lacerated by

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Speaker 1: the judge, and he's also just throwing up all sorts

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Speaker 1: of crazy hell Mary's. One of them was he's questioning

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse about playing video games and suggesting because he

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Speaker 1: played shooter video games that that's what he was trying

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Speaker 1: to do on the night in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Now, the

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Speaker 1: flaw here is just about everybody who has played video

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Speaker 1: games has played shooter video games. And Kyle Rittenhouse said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, that's a video game that's not real life.

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Speaker 1: But you're I believe, an all star in Call of

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Speaker 1: Duty and other video game related related supply you and

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Speaker 1: your brothers, right, you guys still play and these are

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Speaker 1: wildly popular. My kids play video games all the time.

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Speaker 1: I've retired. But the idea that you would say, hey,

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Speaker 1: the reason you shot someone is because you play Call

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Speaker 1: of Duty, it's a pretty crazy stretch given how popular

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Speaker 1: are these games. Here's what we're seeing. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: started playing again over COVID, though I haven't really played

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Speaker 1: since since the lockdown ended. But I like FIFA to

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Speaker 1: the soccer game. You know, it's a great game. Can

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Speaker 1: I tell you it's a great game. So here's what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing play out all across all across this trial

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Speaker 1: right now, and we're gonna keep following it. We'll bring

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Speaker 1: you more of the most important moments because this is

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Speaker 1: gonna take some time. People are still in a little

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Speaker 1: bit of shock that Kyle Rittenhouse is even up on

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Speaker 1: this stand. It's very unusual. It's considered high risk from

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Speaker 1: the perspective of defense attorneys to do this kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: It's really only if you think you have a very

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Speaker 1: that you would do this. And it's not over, so

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Speaker 1: it still could be a risk that maybe the defense

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Speaker 1: All right. You had an anarchist left wing mob, including

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Speaker 1: a convicted sex offender Clay, assaulting a guy with a gun,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to hit him, and you have to ask, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what was Kyle Rittenhouse supposed to do. Let's start to

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Speaker 1: look at this from the other perspective. He's got his

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Speaker 1: street or not is not the criminal charge at issue.

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Speaker 1: There is no criminal charge really. I think they dismissed

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Speaker 1: So it's just about the use of force situation, and

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Speaker 1: what was he supposed to do. Let let a guy

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Speaker 1: bludgeon him with his skateboard, take his rifle and execute

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Speaker 1: him on the street. Let someone wave a loaded gun

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Speaker 1: in his face at point blank range after yelling that

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Speaker 1: he wants to kill him, or wants to shoot him

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Speaker 1: or you know, bleep this, bleep that cursing at him.

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Speaker 1: Of course not. It's crazy. So that's how you get

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Speaker 1: into a prosecutor saying you play first person shooter games,

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Speaker 1: don't you you know what, what are you doing with that?

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Speaker 1: As if he's trying to act out some kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, school shooting situation, because that's been brought up

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Speaker 1: by the media. They've referred to him. They've said he's

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Speaker 1: like a school shooter, he's like a domestic terrorist. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Rittenhouse is nothing of the sword. And that's coming across

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Speaker 1: anyone watching the trial. And I got to say, Discover

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Speaker 1: and these other companies that refuse to allow Rittenhouse to

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Speaker 1: try to raise money for his defense, they should be

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Speaker 1: ashamed of themselves a show they really should buck. And

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Speaker 1: that's well said. And I think this is important. You

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Speaker 1: this ev at an absolute minimum, has an incredibly strong

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Speaker 1: in cases to raise money from others, particularly when you

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Speaker 1: like this. To put kind of in context what a

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Speaker 1: it's over a million dollars. Now. Sometimes defense attorneys will

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Speaker 1: know they're going to get. It's basically an advertisement. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: are defending, and Kyle Rittenhouse taking the stand here is

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Speaker 1: telling everyone I didn't do this in as direct a

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Speaker 1: manner as is possible, OJ didn't do this. For people

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Speaker 1: attention to its cases such as these, it's very rare

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Speaker 1: a big risk. But based on what I'm seeing so far,

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Speaker 1: at times. With this line of questioning, you get the

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Speaker 1: sense as well. I mean it is. The conventional wisdom

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Speaker 1: defendant go on what I see here It's almost as

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Speaker 1: though it's not enough for Rittenhouse in his mind, to

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Speaker 1: get a not guilty verdict. He wants the American people

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Speaker 1: to know that he didn't do anything criminally wrong when

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Speaker 1: it comes to this use of force situation. He wants

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Speaker 1: the American people, instead of just a not guilty verdict.

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Speaker 1: And that's why he's taking the stand. That's why he's

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Speaker 1: speaking directly to the American people, including us, including millions

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Speaker 1: and millions of folks. I mean right now, they're running

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Speaker 1: it live on Fox, on CNN, on news networks all over.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to watch it. In the break, we'll bring

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Speaker 1: you the most important moments. Plus, we've got doctor Marty

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Speaker 1: McCarry the next hour on should your kids, Should kids

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Speaker 1: get vaccinated ever? Should there be mandates ever for kids

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Speaker 1: to get vaccinated? We'll address those questions. More on COVID

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Speaker 1: COVID cases unfortunately rising right now. We should talk about

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Speaker 1: what's going on with that Clay. A lot more to

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Speaker 1: get to, yes, and this testimony is going to be

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Speaker 1: a big story as it continues to spread. Will continue

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Speaker 1: to bring you the absolute latest there. This is going

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Speaker 1: to be a wild day. Stay tuned two more good

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Speaker 1: hours coming. You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton

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