Speaker 1: Up next out loud with Johnno Cold part of the
Speaker 1: beginning with school, Yo, you gotta get your sister. Man.
Speaker 1: The stranger who stopped us was talking to my uncle,
Speaker 1: and the sister in question was my mom. It was morning, springtime.
Speaker 1: I've been walking to school with my uncle, who was
Speaker 1: only five years older than me, when the man saw
Speaker 1: us and dropped across the street. I was nine. What
Speaker 1: do you mean? My uncle asked, what's going on? She
Speaker 1: you know? The guy looked pain, considering his next words carefully,
Speaker 1: but eventually he pressed the head. She had sex with
Speaker 1: three or four dudes. He pointed, right inside that building.
Speaker 1: She'd done it for drugs. I thought he didn't have
Speaker 1: to say it. We all knew pills, marijuana, crack, cocaine.
Speaker 1: We stood together, an odd fellowship in this alley along
Speaker 1: seventy second Street, all of us looking at the vacant building.
Speaker 1: It loomed over us, a dead and empty thing with
Speaker 1: shattered windows and yellow skin pilling from the walls. I
Speaker 1: know you gotta are hearing this, and you're wondering what
Speaker 1: movie script am I reading from right now? But it's
Speaker 1: actually a movie of my life, if you will, I
Speaker 1: was nine years old, walking to school with my uncle
Speaker 1: when this member of a gang stopped us to tell
Speaker 1: him that his sister, my mom, had sex for drugs,
Speaker 1: and apparently it was a secret that was no longer
Speaker 1: a secret because the entire neighborhood knew. When I went
Speaker 1: to school that day, I couldn't study, I couldn't think.
Speaker 1: At times, I couldn't breathe. The fact that my mom,
Speaker 1: someone who brought me into this world, was known as
Speaker 1: someone to do whatever it took to get drugs and
Speaker 1: feed her habit her addiction was something that completely broke me.
Speaker 1: The really interesting fact of this is this isn't something
Speaker 1: that simply happened to me. It's not a mean thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's happened to members of your family, Maybe has
Speaker 1: happened to someone that you know of. And especially now
Speaker 1: because during that time there was the nineties, it is
Speaker 1: happening in the suburbs and all over the country. Many
Speaker 1: individuals are having bouts with addiction and now they need
Speaker 1: our help. They need a second chance, just like we
Speaker 1: all do. None of us are perfect. I have a
Speaker 1: sibling who was raised in the same environment as me,
Speaker 1: someone who I had the highest hopes for, the one
Speaker 1: who was gonna be on myself and make it as well.
Speaker 1: And he recently got in trouble with the law to
Speaker 1: the degree that I had to bail him out of
Speaker 1: jail and pay for an attorney for him. And in
Speaker 1: spite of him doing something that I think it's something
Speaker 1: he should never have been involved with, I still believe
Speaker 1: that he, like everyone else, has a right to a
Speaker 1: second chance. None of us are perfect. And my hope is,
Speaker 1: especially with this podcast, is individuals who are learning about
Speaker 1: issues that they may not be aware of. We're hearing
Speaker 1: it from a different perspective, me being a conservative, or
Speaker 1: other individuals that may come one to this podcast that
Speaker 1: could be conservative or liberal, that we can all have
Speaker 1: greater empathy for life lessons that we all receive, either
Speaker 1: knowingly or annoingly. Nothing in this world, and I do
Speaker 1: mean nothing, in my opinion, can defeat so long as
Speaker 1: we move forward to united and certainly put God first.
Speaker 1: Faith will always be the most important factor for me.
Speaker 1: And what I just read comes from my book Taken
Speaker 1: for Granted, How Conservatism can lean back the Americans to
Speaker 1: liberalism failed, And I truly believe the conservatism can be
Speaker 1: the anchor of re establishing one's life. Faith is always
Speaker 1: paramount to bringing you back to the path that you
Speaker 1: was always meant to reach. And my next guest, this
Speaker 1: particular interview means so much to me. It means a
Speaker 1: great deal for the reason that this individual who's running
Speaker 1: for Congress right now is running in a hard hit
Speaker 1: area of a country. I'm talking about Baltimore, a city
Speaker 1: that's been ravaged by drugs, crime, and violence, and the
Speaker 1: folks who have been involved in the crime, violence, and drugs.
Speaker 1: Some of these individuals deserve redemption because they wanted for themselves.
Speaker 1: People have to want it for themselves. And my next guest,
Speaker 1: she has some solutions to provide second chances to some
Speaker 1: of these very individuals. This is out loud with Gianno
Speaker 1: called well. I am so excited to introduce you to
Speaker 1: my next guest today. She's a rising star in the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. You know what, let's take rising out. She's
Speaker 1: a full blown star in the GOP. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: none other than Kimberly Classic. She's running for Congress in
Speaker 1: Maryland seven District, which includes much of Baltimore. Kim has
Speaker 1: slammed the current Democratic leadership in Baltimore for continuing failed
Speaker 1: policies as she should reminds me so much of Chicago.
Speaker 1: She's offering the city's residents a more optimistic path. Kim
Speaker 1: also spoke at the Republican National Convention, and she knocked
Speaker 1: it out of the park. Kim, it is so good
Speaker 1: to be with you, my friend. I've known you for many,
Speaker 1: many years, and I'm so happy to see you blazing
Speaker 1: a trail as you have been. And I know that
Speaker 1: you're pretty busy, so I want to jump right into it.
Speaker 1: You offered a more optimistic vision for Baltimore and what
Speaker 1: we rather would see for the people of Baltimore. Who
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been in strength. Honestly, it's not been
Speaker 1: a good situation there for many years. And everyone knows you,
Speaker 1: of course from your viral campaign that you released in
Speaker 1: August walking through the streets of Baltimore. But Americans really
Speaker 1: got to know you for the first time in July.
Speaker 1: I remember that day. It was a Saturday. You did
Speaker 1: a bunch of videos that went viral thanks to none
Speaker 1: other than Donald Trump, who tweeted it out and kept
Speaker 1: tweeting the whole day. It was so interesting that I
Speaker 1: remember texting you, like, what the heck is going on.
Speaker 1: But any who you get in tens of thousands of followers,
Speaker 1: what was that experienced like? Yeah, So I just first
Speaker 1: want to let everybody know Gianno Codwell, it's the first
Speaker 1: person I met when entering the political arena back in
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Team he met me at Starbucks
Speaker 1: and introduced me to a lot of people. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this GIANTO, but you were the
Speaker 1: one that got me on Roland Martin Show and it
Speaker 1: just went up from there and I will never be
Speaker 1: able to thank you enough. Um. But when the president,
Speaker 1: of course, when the President saw those tweets, you know,
Speaker 1: this was after a week of me posting those videos
Speaker 1: on social media trying to get attention from the local leaders.
Speaker 1: So I was copying on their the mayor, the city
Speaker 1: council president, and at that time of the late Congressman
Speaker 1: Elijah Cummings. So people could see, look, we've got a
Speaker 1: problem here in West Baltimore. You know, they had trash
Speaker 1: sitting there for months. It wasn't getting picked up. There
Speaker 1: were rats everywhere. Everybody was talking about it. Um. If
Speaker 1: you look at the interviews on my YouTube channel, you'll
Speaker 1: see where people talked about the rat infestation and just
Speaker 1: how bad it was. Um. But these are the same
Speaker 1: basically words that the President used when he went back
Speaker 1: and started tweeting, and everyone started calling him racist for
Speaker 1: using those words that he heard in the interviews. But
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of confusion there. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad that he said something because afterwards
Speaker 1: the local paper they did some investigation and they found
Speaker 1: out if you live in the predominant black neighborhoods like
Speaker 1: Carrollton Ridge, Sandtown in Easterwood, your trash was only getting
Speaker 1: picked up five percent of the time. If you're living
Speaker 1: in Roland Park and some of the other neighborhoods at
Speaker 1: work predominantly black, your trash is getting picked up one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. So there was a big
Speaker 1: difference there, and I'm glad they did that investigation to
Speaker 1: show that there are disparities amongst the neighborhoods. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, when I decided to run for office, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I can do something to make
Speaker 1: sure that there's a quality for all, not just as
Speaker 1: far as the trash and the resources, but there's disparities
Speaker 1: to costs. Um. You know, with the education system, the
Speaker 1: crime and violence is mostly in West Baltimore, in those
Speaker 1: areas where you saw me walking in the video with
Speaker 1: the vacant houses in the trash. So know it's all correlated,
Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna do something about it. You
Speaker 1: know that. That brings me to my next question. And
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your heart on this matter. I've seen
Speaker 1: your heart for years. This wasn't you tweeting the elected
Speaker 1: officials because you wanted to go viral. You didn't expect
Speaker 1: or anticipate the president to be tweeting you out, and
Speaker 1: in fact, none of us really would have anticipated that.
Speaker 1: But it did bring about the change in the Committee
Speaker 1: community because you had people who come up to you
Speaker 1: and said, hey, this is going on, I want to
Speaker 1: show you this or that. Kim. Before people even knew
Speaker 1: who you were, they just knew you was a concerned citizen.
Speaker 1: And that's when it took on a life of his own.
Speaker 1: So you released this ad and you became a household name,
Speaker 1: and in August and had a not at all controversial title,
Speaker 1: black Lives No Matter the Democrats, which I've been saying
Speaker 1: for years, Black lives no matter the Democrats, Black voats matter.
Speaker 1: The Democrats, and I appreciate your mantra there, but you
Speaker 1: most recently dropped another campaign at and what you talked
Speaker 1: about some of the struggles the people in Baltimore going
Speaker 1: through the streets of field with garbage. Thousands of homes
Speaker 1: are abandoned, and then you offered the more optimistic alternative,
Speaker 1: if you will, and you offer some plans I think
Speaker 1: have been very very interesting to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Can you walk us through some of those? Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: you know, a big problem obviously in Baltimore City, and
Speaker 1: this is across the city, is a lack of career opportunities.
Speaker 1: So I talk a lot about the fact that we
Speaker 1: used to be a manufacturing powerhouse right in Baltimore, and
Speaker 1: so I thought, you know what, as we saw during
Speaker 1: the lockdown from the pandemic, we had to rely on
Speaker 1: other countries for ppe. You know, we can bring that
Speaker 1: biotech industry right back to America. And what better place
Speaker 1: than the second largest port in America, which is in
Speaker 1: Baltimore City. You know, it was underutilized. We can run
Speaker 1: a priticeship programs, job training, you know, really get people
Speaker 1: careers and opportunities that lead to having health and dental
Speaker 1: benefits that lead to be able to own your own properties.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. You know. We have seventeen thousand
Speaker 1: vacant homes in Baltimore City alone. You know this. Those
Speaker 1: homes can be flipped. They've been sitting there for decades.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are owned by the city. You know,
Speaker 1: we should enter those in a rent own home situation
Speaker 1: so people can rent and then own their own property.
Speaker 1: You know, when you own your own property, you take
Speaker 1: great care of it and you care about the surroundings.
Speaker 1: Another big thing is school choice. We have decent schools
Speaker 1: in certain areas. You know, some of those schools need
Speaker 1: some competition so that those schools will hopefully get up
Speaker 1: to par And I don't think your zip code and
Speaker 1: where you live should dictate the kind of education you
Speaker 1: can receive. Um. Yeah, So I'm all about school choice
Speaker 1: and we have I even talked about we have a
Speaker 1: trucker shortage across the country. Right Amazon is kicking butt.
Speaker 1: We have large Amazon warehouses right in Baltimore. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but All State actually offers
Speaker 1: behind the wheel training two thousand dollars ahead to get
Speaker 1: your CDL licensing within six weeks. Why aren't we doing that?
Speaker 1: Why aren't we doing that? You know we could have
Speaker 1: if we already have some of the warehouses right in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: Why don't have the truckers right in Baltimore, you know,
Speaker 1: going in across the country, but actually still coming back
Speaker 1: to the city and spending that money in the city,
Speaker 1: building up the tourism. You know, nobody's going to the
Speaker 1: baseball games and the football games right now, but hopefully
Speaker 1: when the pandemic is over, we can continue to do that.
Speaker 1: We've got great teams. We got the Orioles and the Ravens,
Speaker 1: So there's things that we can do, uh, and we
Speaker 1: can do it in a matter of maybe three or
Speaker 1: four years. And then you put on top of that,
Speaker 1: when President Trump introduced, uh, you know, the economic plan
Speaker 1: of putting five hundred billion dollars into black communities. So
Speaker 1: we if we take all of these steps, Gatto, I
Speaker 1: think we can turn both tomore over in about four years.
Speaker 1: You know what I find it the most interesting about
Speaker 1: what you've been saying, first and foremost, how the Republican
Speaker 1: Party has responded to you. I don't personally believe I've
Speaker 1: seen a response like this when it comes to a
Speaker 1: candidate in the district like this. This is one that
Speaker 1: Republicans usually give up on and say, it's not worth
Speaker 1: chasing after these voters. Who's gonna win it? And your
Speaker 1: plan and your point of view isn't some radical, extreme
Speaker 1: right wing plan. A point of view is one that
Speaker 1: I think whether you be a Democrat or a Republican
Speaker 1: or independent, you can get behind it. You're talking about
Speaker 1: jobs and opportunity, and you're also spotlighting what we've seen
Speaker 1: in in Baltimore, which is not been good. Especially when
Speaker 1: you think about the history of Baltimore. Um, it reminds
Speaker 1: me of my hometown in Chicago in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: It lacks opportunity and the people who mostly lose out
Speaker 1: have been African Americans. Have you seen any response from
Speaker 1: the Democratic leadership to with with regards to your message
Speaker 1: or even your opponent who refuses to debate you, not
Speaker 1: at all. You know, it's so interesting. We had a
Speaker 1: couple of businesses go out of business in the Inner Harbor,
Speaker 1: you know that was once the jewel here in Baltimore City,
Speaker 1: and our City Council President Brandon Scott, who was you know,
Speaker 1: going to be the mayor, probably right because he was
Speaker 1: the mayor of nominee for in the Democrat party, so
Speaker 1: he's presumably the mayor coming in and he said, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it was your service, maybe it was your prototype
Speaker 1: for your business. He blamed the business for going out
Speaker 1: of business, rather than the fact that nobody wants to
Speaker 1: go downtown anymore because of the crime and violence. So
Speaker 1: it's almost like they are just in denial. They don't
Speaker 1: want to get it. My opponent, you know, he won
Speaker 1: the special election. He's been sworn in since May fifth
Speaker 1: and hasn't done a single thing. And you're right, he
Speaker 1: won't debate me. He hasn't been the community. You know,
Speaker 1: people are now calling him out, just as I am saying, look,
Speaker 1: where are you? You know, you're not even on Capitol
Speaker 1: Hill trying to get that stimulus bill across, So where
Speaker 1: are you and what are you doing? And we will
Speaker 1: pick that up right after this break, because we definitely
Speaker 1: need to figure out if you're elected to a district
Speaker 1: that especially needs help, where are you? So we'll get
Speaker 1: back to that after the break. Stick with us, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for sticking with does. Of course, we have
Speaker 1: to pay bills and we have wonderful sponsor, so I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to have Kimberly Clasy here, my friend known
Speaker 1: for many many years, and I know her hard on
Speaker 1: Baltimore and I'm so excited to see her run and
Speaker 1: see her get the recognition she deserves. We wish are
Speaker 1: well in her election. Now, you were talking about the
Speaker 1: President's Platinum Plan, which I thought is a really cool name.
Speaker 1: I wonder who came up with that. Yeah, interested myself
Speaker 1: of ours. I don't know the Platinum Planet, so because
Speaker 1: it wasn't a goal, we we've graduated, so thank goodness
Speaker 1: for that. But I wanted to know how does his
Speaker 1: plan compared to what you would really do for Baltimore
Speaker 1: because you mentioned his plan and how where you can
Speaker 1: really utilize at the bolster what's going on in Baltimore
Speaker 1: you've mentioned, Um, I've seen some interviews of yours when
Speaker 1: you talked about those who have been arrested for drugs,
Speaker 1: how you can use that that money can be used
Speaker 1: to level a plane field for folks in Baltimore, I think,
Speaker 1: which is really really interesting and I'm sure people really
Speaker 1: listen to what you have to say. How would you
Speaker 1: differ from what President Trump is offering? Yeah, so what
Speaker 1: you're talking about there is a survivor to investor plan.
Speaker 1: You know, I spent the past year after I did
Speaker 1: those videos that went viral with the blight, I spent
Speaker 1: the past year just talking to people on the streets
Speaker 1: and trying to understand the issues. I met a lot
Speaker 1: of young men that ended up, you know, being cornerboys,
Speaker 1: not because they're bad kids, because it was you know,
Speaker 1: survival mode. There's a lot of young men on the
Speaker 1: street corners that are taking care of their siblings and
Speaker 1: they are not the shooters, they are not the game members.
Speaker 1: They are non violent and they really just need a
Speaker 1: second chance at life. And so you know what you
Speaker 1: probably know with my nonprofit, that's what I was about,
Speaker 1: were force development. So we helped over two hundred women
Speaker 1: become game fully employed to be financially independent. So for me,
Speaker 1: the only way you lift anyone out of poverty is
Speaker 1: with employment. The difference with the cornerboy is, you know,
Speaker 1: you could offer them jobs, but they're not taking a
Speaker 1: under a fifteen dollar an hour job and then getting
Speaker 1: off the streets. You know, some of these guys are
Speaker 1: making five thousand dollars a day, right, So I had
Speaker 1: to think about a way you know, how do we
Speaker 1: get them off the street? Five thousand dollars a day?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, profession no no, no, about a
Speaker 1: thousand a day. And I was talking to this one
Speaker 1: gentleman and he actually showed me all the money he
Speaker 1: had in his trunk with him, and I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: not putting this in the bank. You're up putting it anywhere.
Speaker 1: And he was like, where am I gonna put it?
Speaker 1: They're gonna ask me where I got it, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I said, Okay, here's the thing. We give
Speaker 1: amnesty to legal immigrants all the time right there in
Speaker 1: sanctuary cities. Some people are fine with that. What if
Speaker 1: we allow amnesty for just one year for these guys
Speaker 1: to be able to take that money, invest in some
Speaker 1: of these vacant homes, flip them, revamped them. They'll have
Speaker 1: being a mentorship program. Uh. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: real estate investors that are already on board with this.
Speaker 1: They want to mentor these young men um and have
Speaker 1: them enter into the real estate business while we enter
Speaker 1: those exact homes in a rent to own program that
Speaker 1: we offer to citizens in the community, not displacing anyone,
Speaker 1: so they really do invest in their own community. And
Speaker 1: it's those that have been you know, they're through the
Speaker 1: bad that can stay there through the good. You know,
Speaker 1: we see a lot of times, a lot of re gentrification.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's what they want in West Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You know. I talked to people, and they want to
Speaker 1: stay right there. So why not give them the career opportunities,
Speaker 1: give them a chance to own their own homes. Uh.
Speaker 1: I have talked to people in the administration about this,
Speaker 1: you know, they've been scrolling it around. UM. And then
Speaker 1: I've also talked to administration about, you know, the platform
Speaker 1: planned and how it goes together with what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do in Baltimore. UM. I've actually had a conversation,
Speaker 1: I can tell you with Eric Trump and he said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I've got friends that would be willing
Speaker 1: to invest in Baltimore. Do you think we can do
Speaker 1: anything about the crime in the violence. And I said, look,
Speaker 1: if you had all these investors coming in and we
Speaker 1: offer some real deal opportunities like the survivor to invest
Speaker 1: their plan, I think people will be on board with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we can get over that hump,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's what it's about a
Speaker 1: lot of people just do the second chance. I'm all
Speaker 1: four second chances. I've given a third or fourth chances
Speaker 1: in some cases. You know, it's it's just about getting
Speaker 1: that person in their mindset changed and wanting to do
Speaker 1: better for themselves and their family. So let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, with that particular plan, would these young men
Speaker 1: be required to leave the how do you They would
Speaker 1: have to leave the Yeah, they would have to leave
Speaker 1: the drug life. They would have to read it, so
Speaker 1: there would be Yeah, there would be safeguards in place,
Speaker 1: and it'll be a whole program. Um, we will probably
Speaker 1: see probation officers. There will be people within this program
Speaker 1: to make sure that they stay off of the streets
Speaker 1: and out of that life. Now, people say, you know,
Speaker 1: they asked why a whole year. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: people on the streets, right, they're not going to trust
Speaker 1: this program family. Yeah, yeah, well they're not gonna trust
Speaker 1: this program one day one right, So we've got to
Speaker 1: give people time to know that the program does work,
Speaker 1: that they're not being arrested. You know, that they can
Speaker 1: use this money and flip it into good money to
Speaker 1: invest in the real estate. So that's why we're giving
Speaker 1: time and that amount of time. But other than that, yes,
Speaker 1: you have to leave the street life behind. But I
Speaker 1: think you know this is also a great way to
Speaker 1: put a dent on the war on drugs. You know,
Speaker 1: we have a drug issue. I can't even tell you
Speaker 1: how many Methodol clinics we have in West Baltimore alone.
Speaker 1: We have a drug issue. We have to do something
Speaker 1: about that as well. Well. Just to switch gears a
Speaker 1: little bit, As you and I very well know, most
Speaker 1: black people in this country do not identify themselves as
Speaker 1: conservatives of Republican Well, let me rephrase. They may consider
Speaker 1: themselves conservative, but they won't vote for Republicans. I believe
Speaker 1: in Obama's races was about nineties six percent of African
Speaker 1: Americans voted for Barack Obama. We continue to see numbers
Speaker 1: of of African Americans voting for Democrats where we know
Speaker 1: that they have historically and currently disenfranchised African Americans with policy,
Speaker 1: especially Joe Biden, which I find to be, I mean,
Speaker 1: just wildly interesting that he is the leader of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party and he's relying on black support when he's
Speaker 1: disenfranchised Black folks probably more than any other politician as
Speaker 1: living today. Um, With that being the case, how significant
Speaker 1: do you think it is that Trump is departing from
Speaker 1: the norm where we see Republicans usually say I'm not
Speaker 1: going to really pursue the black vote because they're not
Speaker 1: gonna vote for us anyway. And he's being very direct
Speaker 1: about it. In spite of people calling him races and
Speaker 1: all these other things. He's been very direct and specific
Speaker 1: from a policy standpoint, and he continues to offer a
Speaker 1: new policy with the Platinum Plan. How significant do you
Speaker 1: think this is for the party in general? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I can I can speak from experience on this. I
Speaker 1: know when I entered this race back in last November,
Speaker 1: the RNC want had nothing to do with us. Uh,
Speaker 1: the m new GOP chairman said Jesus Christ couldn't win
Speaker 1: this race, and I was a quote, um, so we thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, we gotta make the money ourselves and
Speaker 1: just keep on pushing. We're not going to give up.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, people should understand
Speaker 1: it really is President Trump that is extending this olive
Speaker 1: branch to the minority community. And I'll tell you this
Speaker 1: my my my Adwin viral. Right. Laura Ingram was on
Speaker 1: Fox and said, we want Kim to speak at the
Speaker 1: RNC convention, but it was turned down initially by Rona McDaniel,
Speaker 1: the GOP chairwoman. President Trump then called I guess within
Speaker 1: hours and said, no Kim speaking. It is President Trump
Speaker 1: that made sure I spoke at that RNC convention. It
Speaker 1: is President Trump. There's a reason that I have been
Speaker 1: getting more Fox News booking so I can raise more money.
Speaker 1: Do you have me speaking in Atlanta when he ruled
Speaker 1: out that platinum plan? It is President Um, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was last minute I apologize. Important. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: it was President Trump that has been pushing us to
Speaker 1: the forefront. You know. He doubled down on the endorsement
Speaker 1: for my race, and some people were like, well, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna do you any good because people in Baltimore
Speaker 1: they think Trump is a racist. And I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's not about doing me good. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not about this political strategy. He genuinely cares about
Speaker 1: me winning this race to make Baltimore better place. I'm
Speaker 1: all for that, you know. But it's President Trump that
Speaker 1: has embraced me. I don't want to want to get
Speaker 1: it twisted. It hasn't been the GOP. It has been
Speaker 1: President Trump and his campaign. Well, can we need to
Speaker 1: take a break. But when we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about the Black Lives Matter movement and
Speaker 1: how to balance establishing law and order on one hand
Speaker 1: with acknowledging the concerns of the black community on the other.
Speaker 1: But first, here's a word from our sponsor. Please don't
Speaker 1: go away, Kim. I want to turn from education in
Speaker 1: the economy to RN Baltimore is on pace to surpass
Speaker 1: three homicides for the six year in a row. According
Speaker 1: to the city police, from September six to September fourteen,
Speaker 1: just a nine day span, at least fifty two people
Speaker 1: were shot and fourteen of them were killed. That's staggering.
Speaker 1: I really can't believe what I'm reading, but that's what's
Speaker 1: going on in Baltimore. And according to new stats released
Speaker 1: by the FBI, the city of Baltimore had a rate
Speaker 1: of one thousand, eight hundred and fifty eight violent crimes
Speaker 1: and fifty eight murders per one hundred thousand people last year,
Speaker 1: each ranking in the top four among cities nationally. If
Speaker 1: you're elected to Congress, how would you get those figures
Speaker 1: to drop? Yeah, that's a great question. I will say,
Speaker 1: you know, I have two brothers and so they had
Speaker 1: that conversation. But you know, as a black woman, I
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's a little bit different. So I've never
Speaker 1: had that situation. But then I don't come off as
Speaker 1: aggressive in any situation, and I am a woman, which
Speaker 1: I think is treated differently. As far as Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what was going on there, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know either, But then there's I think I think
Speaker 1: the rationale is, and you have a different life. You
Speaker 1: look how you look. Oh, Sandra Bland too, I guess
Speaker 1: that was another name that you're a very polished person.
Speaker 1: I'm a polished person too. Maybe we get treated a
Speaker 1: little differently, but there's a lot of folks that look
Speaker 1: like us who may not be in that same place.
Speaker 1: My siblings. You know, I have a family members who
Speaker 1: been in the hood for a very long time. And
Speaker 1: you and I both know when you look in particular way,
Speaker 1: then there may be some more eyes on you because
Speaker 1: there's at least a thought that you could be doing
Speaker 1: something illegal. So knowing that that is the truth, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've done it, We've seen people ourselves. I'm sure I
Speaker 1: can speak. Yeah, well, my little brother exactly. So you
Speaker 1: may look and you might be like, oh, hold on,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So, yeah, I think it's it depends
Speaker 1: on So we have to look at how we got
Speaker 1: to this point, right, aggressive policing. That was something that
Speaker 1: was actually put in the crime though. Yeah. Yes, and
Speaker 1: my opponent Quais and food Make co sponsored it with
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and so this is how we got to
Speaker 1: this situation. But um, so you know, clearing the corner,
Speaker 1: stopped and frisk, you know, taking people, you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, taking them out of their car, searching the vehicle,
Speaker 1: no warrant, no reason to do so. Um, and they
Speaker 1: do that in certain neighborhoods. That has to end, you know,
Speaker 1: that has to end. And there's got to be more
Speaker 1: community engagement, not just coming out and playing basketball at
Speaker 1: somebody's kid, maybe having a conversation with someone, because I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of cases, I don't know if you noticed,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of cases where police officers are
Speaker 1: in the community and they end up in a situation
Speaker 1: where someone isn't quite mentally stable, right, and then they're
Speaker 1: pulling out their guns on that individual. Had they been
Speaker 1: in the community and understood, you know, what that certain
Speaker 1: individual isn't mentally stable and this is how he might
Speaker 1: act irrational. Right, So I understand when they talk about
Speaker 1: reallocating funds. I don't know about the whole defund the
Speaker 1: police part, but I understand when they talk about sending
Speaker 1: social workers into certain situations. I guess I don't love
Speaker 1: it because I also see situations in Baltimore where a
Speaker 1: cop can pull up to, you know, disturbing the peace matter,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden guns are drawn, the cop
Speaker 1: is shot. You know, so you never know until you
Speaker 1: get there who has a gun? Um, I guess for me.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about what's going on the community.
Speaker 1: Like you said, over that nine what was it nine days?
Speaker 1: We had so many shootings. So we have a state's
Speaker 1: attorney who was very soft on criminal Her name is
Speaker 1: Marilyn Mosby. Her husband is actually a candidate for city
Speaker 1: council right now. The president uh, he was in office
Speaker 1: before as a city council president in the district in
Speaker 1: which I was walking in in my videos. Right. So,
Speaker 1: when you have a situation where these people are soft
Speaker 1: on criminals, you see the newspaper, we'll talk about criminals arrested, homicide,
Speaker 1: double homicide. This is their eleventh offense. How do you
Speaker 1: are How are you an eleven time repeat offender back
Speaker 1: on the streets to shoot and kill somebody else. You know,
Speaker 1: there's gotta be some something, a kind of reity for
Speaker 1: either the State's attorney, you know, the prosecutors, the judges.
Speaker 1: You know, why are we giving murderers sentences for one year?
Speaker 1: You know? So, so there's a lot of moving parts here.
Speaker 1: Our police department is you know, had some corruptions. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw our Gun Trace Task Force. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were taken down. That's how we move up under
Speaker 1: the Consett decree. So there is some corruption there, But
Speaker 1: I link it back to city Hall. You've got you know,
Speaker 1: you can't have a corrupt police department without corruption in
Speaker 1: city hall because remember the mayor still presides over that, right.
Speaker 1: And then you've got the police commissioner. We've had three
Speaker 1: different police commissioners in the past what maybe four years,
Speaker 1: so we're never on lockstep with anyone. So we have
Speaker 1: a lot of issues in Baltimore City. It's corruption, mismanagement, uh,
Speaker 1: corrupt police officers, and then the fact that we have
Speaker 1: criminals basically running our streets. Wow, and then Democrats when
Speaker 1: it had an opportunity to work with Senator Tim Scott
Speaker 1: on training for police officers, among the number a lot
Speaker 1: of other initiatives, they said no because they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep it is a political issue for them, which is
Speaker 1: extraordinarily sad. I know I don't have much of any
Speaker 1: more time with you, so what I wanted to say
Speaker 1: is that thank you so so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: I've known you for many, many years. I respect and
Speaker 1: appreciate your passion for people and what you do, and
Speaker 1: I wish you very very well in your race, and
Speaker 1: please come back any time and let us know what's
Speaker 1: going on in the community, because you're rock star and
Speaker 1: we're gonna be hearing from you for many years to come.
Speaker 1: So I wish you well. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you Kimberly Classic for an incredible interview.
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