1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Up next out loud with Johnno Cold part of the 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: beginning with school, Yo, you gotta get your sister. Man. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: The stranger who stopped us was talking to my uncle, 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: and the sister in question was my mom. It was morning, springtime. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I've been walking to school with my uncle, who was 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: only five years older than me, when the man saw 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: us and dropped across the street. I was nine. What 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: do you mean? My uncle asked, what's going on? She 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: you know? The guy looked pain, considering his next words carefully, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: but eventually he pressed the head. She had sex with 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: three or four dudes. He pointed, right inside that building. 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: She'd done it for drugs. I thought he didn't have 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: to say it. We all knew pills, marijuana, crack, cocaine. 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: We stood together, an odd fellowship in this alley along 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: seventy second Street, all of us looking at the vacant building. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: It loomed over us, a dead and empty thing with 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: shattered windows and yellow skin pilling from the walls. I 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: know you gotta are hearing this, and you're wondering what 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: movie script am I reading from right now? But it's 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: actually a movie of my life, if you will, I 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: was nine years old, walking to school with my uncle 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: when this member of a gang stopped us to tell 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: him that his sister, my mom, had sex for drugs, 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: and apparently it was a secret that was no longer 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: a secret because the entire neighborhood knew. When I went 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: to school that day, I couldn't study, I couldn't think. 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: At times, I couldn't breathe. The fact that my mom, 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: someone who brought me into this world, was known as 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: someone to do whatever it took to get drugs and 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: feed her habit her addiction was something that completely broke me. 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: The really interesting fact of this is this isn't something 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: that simply happened to me. It's not a mean thing. 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's happened to members of your family, Maybe has 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: happened to someone that you know of. And especially now 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: because during that time there was the nineties, it is 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: happening in the suburbs and all over the country. Many 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: individuals are having bouts with addiction and now they need 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: our help. They need a second chance, just like we 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: all do. None of us are perfect. I have a 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: sibling who was raised in the same environment as me, 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: someone who I had the highest hopes for, the one 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: who was gonna be on myself and make it as well. 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: And he recently got in trouble with the law to 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the degree that I had to bail him out of 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: jail and pay for an attorney for him. And in 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: spite of him doing something that I think it's something 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: he should never have been involved with, I still believe 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: that he, like everyone else, has a right to a 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: second chance. None of us are perfect. And my hope is, 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: especially with this podcast, is individuals who are learning about 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: issues that they may not be aware of. We're hearing 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: it from a different perspective, me being a conservative, or 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: other individuals that may come one to this podcast that 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: could be conservative or liberal, that we can all have 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: greater empathy for life lessons that we all receive, either 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: knowingly or annoingly. Nothing in this world, and I do 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: mean nothing, in my opinion, can defeat so long as 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: we move forward to united and certainly put God first. 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Faith will always be the most important factor for me. 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: And what I just read comes from my book Taken 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: for Granted, How Conservatism can lean back the Americans to 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: liberalism failed, And I truly believe the conservatism can be 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: the anchor of re establishing one's life. Faith is always 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: paramount to bringing you back to the path that you 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: was always meant to reach. And my next guest, this 66 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: particular interview means so much to me. It means a 67 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: great deal for the reason that this individual who's running 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: for Congress right now is running in a hard hit 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: area of a country. I'm talking about Baltimore, a city 70 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: that's been ravaged by drugs, crime, and violence, and the 71 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: folks who have been involved in the crime, violence, and drugs. 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: Some of these individuals deserve redemption because they wanted for themselves. 73 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: People have to want it for themselves. And my next guest, 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: she has some solutions to provide second chances to some 75 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: of these very individuals. This is out loud with Gianno 76 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: called well. I am so excited to introduce you to 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: my next guest today. She's a rising star in the 78 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Republican Party. You know what, let's take rising out. She's 79 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: a full blown star in the GOP. I'm talking about 80 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: none other than Kimberly Classic. She's running for Congress in 81 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Maryland seven District, which includes much of Baltimore. Kim has 82 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: slammed the current Democratic leadership in Baltimore for continuing failed 83 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: policies as she should reminds me so much of Chicago. 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: She's offering the city's residents a more optimistic path. Kim 85 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: also spoke at the Republican National Convention, and she knocked 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: it out of the park. Kim, it is so good 87 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: to be with you, my friend. I've known you for many, 88 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: many years, and I'm so happy to see you blazing 89 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: a trail as you have been. And I know that 90 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: you're pretty busy, so I want to jump right into it. 91 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: You offered a more optimistic vision for Baltimore and what 92 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: we rather would see for the people of Baltimore. Who 93 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been in strength. Honestly, it's not been 94 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: a good situation there for many years. And everyone knows you, 95 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: of course from your viral campaign that you released in 96 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: August walking through the streets of Baltimore. But Americans really 97 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: got to know you for the first time in July. 98 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: I remember that day. It was a Saturday. You did 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of videos that went viral thanks to none 100 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: other than Donald Trump, who tweeted it out and kept 101 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: tweeting the whole day. It was so interesting that I 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: remember texting you, like, what the heck is going on. 103 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: But any who you get in tens of thousands of followers, 104 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: what was that experienced like? Yeah, So I just first 105 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: want to let everybody know Gianno Codwell, it's the first 106 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: person I met when entering the political arena back in 107 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Team he met me at Starbucks 108 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: and introduced me to a lot of people. I don't 109 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: know if you remember this GIANTO, but you were the 110 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: one that got me on Roland Martin Show and it 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: just went up from there and I will never be 112 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: able to thank you enough. Um. But when the president, 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: of course, when the President saw those tweets, you know, 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: this was after a week of me posting those videos 115 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: on social media trying to get attention from the local leaders. 116 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: So I was copying on their the mayor, the city 117 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: council president, and at that time of the late Congressman 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Elijah Cummings. So people could see, look, we've got a 119 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: problem here in West Baltimore. You know, they had trash 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: sitting there for months. It wasn't getting picked up. There 121 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: were rats everywhere. Everybody was talking about it. Um. If 122 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: you look at the interviews on my YouTube channel, you'll 123 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: see where people talked about the rat infestation and just 124 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: how bad it was. Um. But these are the same 125 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: basically words that the President used when he went back 126 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: and started tweeting, and everyone started calling him racist for 127 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: using those words that he heard in the interviews. But 128 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of confusion there. But 129 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad that he said something because afterwards 130 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: the local paper they did some investigation and they found 131 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: out if you live in the predominant black neighborhoods like 132 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Carrollton Ridge, Sandtown in Easterwood, your trash was only getting 133 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: picked up five percent of the time. If you're living 134 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: in Roland Park and some of the other neighborhoods at 135 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: work predominantly black, your trash is getting picked up one 136 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. So there was a big 137 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: difference there, and I'm glad they did that investigation to 138 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: show that there are disparities amongst the neighborhoods. And so, 139 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, when I decided to run for office, I thought, 140 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I can do something to make 141 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: sure that there's a quality for all, not just as 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: far as the trash and the resources, but there's disparities 143 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: to costs. Um. You know, with the education system, the 144 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: crime and violence is mostly in West Baltimore, in those 145 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: areas where you saw me walking in the video with 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the vacant houses in the trash. So know it's all correlated, 147 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna do something about it. You 148 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: know that. That brings me to my next question. And 149 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your heart on this matter. I've seen 150 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: your heart for years. This wasn't you tweeting the elected 151 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: officials because you wanted to go viral. You didn't expect 152 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: or anticipate the president to be tweeting you out, and 153 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: in fact, none of us really would have anticipated that. 154 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: But it did bring about the change in the Committee 155 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: community because you had people who come up to you 156 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: and said, hey, this is going on, I want to 157 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: show you this or that. Kim. Before people even knew 158 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: who you were, they just knew you was a concerned citizen. 159 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: And that's when it took on a life of his own. 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: So you released this ad and you became a household name, 161 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: and in August and had a not at all controversial title, 162 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: black Lives No Matter the Democrats, which I've been saying 163 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: for years, Black lives no matter the Democrats, Black voats matter. 164 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: The Democrats, and I appreciate your mantra there, but you 165 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: most recently dropped another campaign at and what you talked 166 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: about some of the struggles the people in Baltimore going 167 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: through the streets of field with garbage. Thousands of homes 168 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: are abandoned, and then you offered the more optimistic alternative, 169 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: if you will, and you offer some plans I think 170 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: have been very very interesting to a lot of people. 171 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: Can you walk us through some of those? Yeah. So, 172 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, a big problem obviously in Baltimore City, and 173 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: this is across the city, is a lack of career opportunities. 174 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: So I talk a lot about the fact that we 175 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: used to be a manufacturing powerhouse right in Baltimore, and 176 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: so I thought, you know what, as we saw during 177 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: the lockdown from the pandemic, we had to rely on 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: other countries for ppe. You know, we can bring that 179 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: biotech industry right back to America. And what better place 180 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: than the second largest port in America, which is in 181 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Baltimore City. You know, it was underutilized. We can run 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: a priticeship programs, job training, you know, really get people 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: careers and opportunities that lead to having health and dental 184 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: benefits that lead to be able to own your own properties. 185 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: And that's another thing. You know. We have seventeen thousand 186 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: vacant homes in Baltimore City alone. You know this. Those 187 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: homes can be flipped. They've been sitting there for decades. 188 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: A lot of them are owned by the city. You know, 189 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: we should enter those in a rent own home situation 190 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: so people can rent and then own their own property. 191 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, when you own your own property, you take 192 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: great care of it and you care about the surroundings. 193 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: Another big thing is school choice. We have decent schools 194 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: in certain areas. You know, some of those schools need 195 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: some competition so that those schools will hopefully get up 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: to par And I don't think your zip code and 197 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: where you live should dictate the kind of education you 198 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: can receive. Um. Yeah, So I'm all about school choice 199 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: and we have I even talked about we have a 200 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: trucker shortage across the country. Right Amazon is kicking butt. 201 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: We have large Amazon warehouses right in Baltimore. A lot 202 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but All State actually offers 203 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: behind the wheel training two thousand dollars ahead to get 204 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: your CDL licensing within six weeks. Why aren't we doing that? 205 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Why aren't we doing that? You know we could have 206 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: if we already have some of the warehouses right in Baltimore, 207 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: Why don't have the truckers right in Baltimore, you know, 208 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: going in across the country, but actually still coming back 209 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: to the city and spending that money in the city, 210 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: building up the tourism. You know, nobody's going to the 211 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: baseball games and the football games right now, but hopefully 212 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: when the pandemic is over, we can continue to do that. 213 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: We've got great teams. We got the Orioles and the Ravens, 214 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: So there's things that we can do, uh, and we 215 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: can do it in a matter of maybe three or 216 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: four years. And then you put on top of that, 217 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: when President Trump introduced, uh, you know, the economic plan 218 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: of putting five hundred billion dollars into black communities. So 219 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: we if we take all of these steps, Gatto, I 220 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: think we can turn both tomore over in about four years. 221 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: You know what I find it the most interesting about 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: what you've been saying, first and foremost, how the Republican 223 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Party has responded to you. I don't personally believe I've 224 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: seen a response like this when it comes to a 225 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: candidate in the district like this. This is one that 226 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: Republicans usually give up on and say, it's not worth 227 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: chasing after these voters. Who's gonna win it? And your 228 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: plan and your point of view isn't some radical, extreme 229 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: right wing plan. A point of view is one that 230 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: I think whether you be a Democrat or a Republican 231 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: or independent, you can get behind it. You're talking about 232 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: jobs and opportunity, and you're also spotlighting what we've seen 233 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: in in Baltimore, which is not been good. Especially when 234 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: you think about the history of Baltimore. Um, it reminds 235 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: me of my hometown in Chicago in a lot of ways. 236 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: It lacks opportunity and the people who mostly lose out 237 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: have been African Americans. Have you seen any response from 238 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic leadership to with with regards to your message 239 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: or even your opponent who refuses to debate you, not 240 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: at all. You know, it's so interesting. We had a 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: couple of businesses go out of business in the Inner Harbor, 242 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you know that was once the jewel here in Baltimore City, 243 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: and our City Council President Brandon Scott, who was you know, 244 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: going to be the mayor, probably right because he was 245 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: the mayor of nominee for in the Democrat party, so 246 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: he's presumably the mayor coming in and he said, well, 247 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: maybe it was your service, maybe it was your prototype 248 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: for your business. He blamed the business for going out 249 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: of business, rather than the fact that nobody wants to 250 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: go downtown anymore because of the crime and violence. So 251 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: it's almost like they are just in denial. They don't 252 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: want to get it. My opponent, you know, he won 253 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: the special election. He's been sworn in since May fifth 254 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: and hasn't done a single thing. And you're right, he 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: won't debate me. He hasn't been the community. You know, 256 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: people are now calling him out, just as I am saying, look, 257 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: where are you? You know, you're not even on Capitol 258 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: Hill trying to get that stimulus bill across, So where 259 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: are you and what are you doing? And we will 260 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: pick that up right after this break, because we definitely 261 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: need to figure out if you're elected to a district 262 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: that especially needs help, where are you? So we'll get 263 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: back to that after the break. Stick with us, well, 264 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: thank you for sticking with does. Of course, we have 265 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: to pay bills and we have wonderful sponsor, so I'm 266 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: so excited to have Kimberly Clasy here, my friend known 267 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: for many many years, and I know her hard on 268 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore and I'm so excited to see her run and 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: see her get the recognition she deserves. We wish are 270 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: well in her election. Now, you were talking about the 271 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: President's Platinum Plan, which I thought is a really cool name. 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: I wonder who came up with that. Yeah, interested myself 273 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: of ours. I don't know the Platinum Planet, so because 274 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't a goal, we we've graduated, so thank goodness 275 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: for that. But I wanted to know how does his 276 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: plan compared to what you would really do for Baltimore 277 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: because you mentioned his plan and how where you can 278 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: really utilize at the bolster what's going on in Baltimore 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: you've mentioned, Um, I've seen some interviews of yours when 280 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: you talked about those who have been arrested for drugs, 281 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: how you can use that that money can be used 282 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: to level a plane field for folks in Baltimore, I think, 283 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: which is really really interesting and I'm sure people really 284 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: listen to what you have to say. How would you 285 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: differ from what President Trump is offering? Yeah, so what 286 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about there is a survivor to investor plan. 287 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: You know, I spent the past year after I did 288 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: those videos that went viral with the blight, I spent 289 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the past year just talking to people on the streets 290 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: and trying to understand the issues. I met a lot 291 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: of young men that ended up, you know, being cornerboys, 292 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: not because they're bad kids, because it was you know, 293 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: survival mode. There's a lot of young men on the 294 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: street corners that are taking care of their siblings and 295 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: they are not the shooters, they are not the game members. 296 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: They are non violent and they really just need a 297 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: second chance at life. And so you know what you 298 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: probably know with my nonprofit, that's what I was about, 299 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: were force development. So we helped over two hundred women 300 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: become game fully employed to be financially independent. So for me, 301 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: the only way you lift anyone out of poverty is 302 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: with employment. The difference with the cornerboy is, you know, 303 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: you could offer them jobs, but they're not taking a 304 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: under a fifteen dollar an hour job and then getting 305 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: off the streets. You know, some of these guys are 306 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: making five thousand dollars a day, right, So I had 307 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: to think about a way you know, how do we 308 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: get them off the street? Five thousand dollars a day? 309 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, profession no no, no, about a 310 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: thousand a day. And I was talking to this one 311 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: gentleman and he actually showed me all the money he 312 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: had in his trunk with him, and I'm like, you're 313 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: not putting this in the bank. You're up putting it anywhere. 314 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: And he was like, where am I gonna put it? 315 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna ask me where I got it, you know. 316 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: And so I said, Okay, here's the thing. We give 317 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: amnesty to legal immigrants all the time right there in 318 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: sanctuary cities. Some people are fine with that. What if 319 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: we allow amnesty for just one year for these guys 320 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: to be able to take that money, invest in some 321 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: of these vacant homes, flip them, revamped them. They'll have 322 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: being a mentorship program. Uh. There are a lot of 323 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: real estate investors that are already on board with this. 324 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: They want to mentor these young men um and have 325 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: them enter into the real estate business while we enter 326 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: those exact homes in a rent to own program that 327 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: we offer to citizens in the community, not displacing anyone, 328 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: so they really do invest in their own community. And 329 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: it's those that have been you know, they're through the 330 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: bad that can stay there through the good. You know, 331 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: we see a lot of times, a lot of re gentrification. 332 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's what they want in West Baltimore. 333 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: You know. I talked to people, and they want to 334 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: stay right there. So why not give them the career opportunities, 335 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: give them a chance to own their own homes. Uh. 336 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: I have talked to people in the administration about this, 337 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: you know, they've been scrolling it around. UM. And then 338 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I've also talked to administration about, you know, the platform 339 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: planned and how it goes together with what we're trying 340 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: to do in Baltimore. UM. I've actually had a conversation, 341 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you with Eric Trump and he said, 342 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I've got friends that would be willing 343 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: to invest in Baltimore. Do you think we can do 344 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: anything about the crime in the violence. And I said, look, 345 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: if you had all these investors coming in and we 346 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: offer some real deal opportunities like the survivor to invest 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: their plan, I think people will be on board with that. 348 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we can get over that hump, 349 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's what it's about a 350 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of people just do the second chance. I'm all 351 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: four second chances. I've given a third or fourth chances 352 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: in some cases. You know, it's it's just about getting 353 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: that person in their mindset changed and wanting to do 354 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: better for themselves and their family. So let me ask 355 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: you this, with that particular plan, would these young men 356 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: be required to leave the how do you They would 357 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: have to leave the Yeah, they would have to leave 358 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: the drug life. They would have to read it, so 359 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: there would be Yeah, there would be safeguards in place, 360 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: and it'll be a whole program. Um, we will probably 361 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: see probation officers. There will be people within this program 362 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that they stay off of the streets 363 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: and out of that life. Now, people say, you know, 364 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: they asked why a whole year. I mean, we know 365 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: people on the streets, right, they're not going to trust 366 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: this program family. Yeah, yeah, well they're not gonna trust 367 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: this program one day one right, So we've got to 368 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: give people time to know that the program does work, 369 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: that they're not being arrested. You know, that they can 370 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: use this money and flip it into good money to 371 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: invest in the real estate. So that's why we're giving 372 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: time and that amount of time. But other than that, yes, 373 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: you have to leave the street life behind. But I 374 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: think you know this is also a great way to 375 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: put a dent on the war on drugs. You know, 376 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: we have a drug issue. I can't even tell you 377 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: how many Methodol clinics we have in West Baltimore alone. 378 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: We have a drug issue. We have to do something 379 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: about that as well. Well. Just to switch gears a 380 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: little bit, As you and I very well know, most 381 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: black people in this country do not identify themselves as 382 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: conservatives of Republican Well, let me rephrase. They may consider 383 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: themselves conservative, but they won't vote for Republicans. I believe 384 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: in Obama's races was about nineties six percent of African 385 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Americans voted for Barack Obama. We continue to see numbers 386 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: of of African Americans voting for Democrats where we know 387 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: that they have historically and currently disenfranchised African Americans with policy, 388 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: especially Joe Biden, which I find to be, I mean, 389 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: just wildly interesting that he is the leader of the 390 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: Democratic Party and he's relying on black support when he's 391 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: disenfranchised Black folks probably more than any other politician as 392 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: living today. Um, With that being the case, how significant 393 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: do you think it is that Trump is departing from 394 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: the norm where we see Republicans usually say I'm not 395 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: going to really pursue the black vote because they're not 396 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna vote for us anyway. And he's being very direct 397 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: about it. In spite of people calling him races and 398 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: all these other things. He's been very direct and specific 399 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: from a policy standpoint, and he continues to offer a 400 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: new policy with the Platinum Plan. How significant do you 401 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: think this is for the party in general? Yeah, so 402 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I can I can speak from experience on this. I 403 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: know when I entered this race back in last November, 404 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: the RNC want had nothing to do with us. Uh, 405 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: the m new GOP chairman said Jesus Christ couldn't win 406 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: this race, and I was a quote, um, so we thought, 407 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: you know what, we gotta make the money ourselves and 408 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: just keep on pushing. We're not going to give up. 409 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, people should understand 410 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: it really is President Trump that is extending this olive 411 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: branch to the minority community. And I'll tell you this 412 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: my my my Adwin viral. Right. Laura Ingram was on 413 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Fox and said, we want Kim to speak at the 414 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: RNC convention, but it was turned down initially by Rona McDaniel, 415 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: the GOP chairwoman. President Trump then called I guess within 416 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: hours and said, no Kim speaking. It is President Trump 417 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: that made sure I spoke at that RNC convention. It 418 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: is President Trump. There's a reason that I have been 419 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: getting more Fox News booking so I can raise more money. 420 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: Do you have me speaking in Atlanta when he ruled 421 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: out that platinum plan? It is President Um, that's yeah, 422 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: And that was last minute I apologize. Important. Yeah, But 423 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: it was President Trump that has been pushing us to 424 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: the forefront. You know. He doubled down on the endorsement 425 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: for my race, and some people were like, well, that's 426 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: not gonna do you any good because people in Baltimore 427 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: they think Trump is a racist. And I said, you 428 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: know what, it's not about doing me good. You know, 429 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: it's not about this political strategy. He genuinely cares about 430 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: me winning this race to make Baltimore better place. I'm 431 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: all for that, you know. But it's President Trump that 432 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: has embraced me. I don't want to want to get 433 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: it twisted. It hasn't been the GOP. It has been 434 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: President Trump and his campaign. Well, can we need to 435 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: take a break. But when we come back, I want 436 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: to ask you about the Black Lives Matter movement and 437 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: how to balance establishing law and order on one hand 438 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: with acknowledging the concerns of the black community on the other. 439 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: But first, here's a word from our sponsor. Please don't 440 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: go away, Kim. I want to turn from education in 441 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: the economy to RN Baltimore is on pace to surpass 442 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: three homicides for the six year in a row. According 443 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: to the city police, from September six to September fourteen, 444 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: just a nine day span, at least fifty two people 445 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: were shot and fourteen of them were killed. That's staggering. 446 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: I really can't believe what I'm reading, but that's what's 447 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: going on in Baltimore. And according to new stats released 448 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: by the FBI, the city of Baltimore had a rate 449 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: of one thousand, eight hundred and fifty eight violent crimes 450 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: and fifty eight murders per one hundred thousand people last year, 451 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: each ranking in the top four among cities nationally. If 452 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: you're elected to Congress, how would you get those figures 453 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: to drop? Yeah, that's a great question. I will say, 454 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, I have two brothers and so they had 455 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: that conversation. But you know, as a black woman, I 456 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's a little bit different. So I've never 457 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: had that situation. But then I don't come off as 458 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: aggressive in any situation, and I am a woman, which 459 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: I think is treated differently. As far as Yeah, I 460 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: don't know what was going on there, I don't. I 461 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: don't know either, But then there's I think I think 462 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: the rationale is, and you have a different life. You 463 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: look how you look. Oh, Sandra Bland too, I guess 464 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: that was another name that you're a very polished person. 465 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm a polished person too. Maybe we get treated a 466 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: little differently, but there's a lot of folks that look 467 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: like us who may not be in that same place. 468 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: My siblings. You know, I have a family members who 469 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: been in the hood for a very long time. And 470 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: you and I both know when you look in particular way, 471 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: then there may be some more eyes on you because 472 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: there's at least a thought that you could be doing 473 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: something illegal. So knowing that that is the truth, I mean, 474 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: we've done it, We've seen people ourselves. I'm sure I 475 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: can speak. Yeah, well, my little brother exactly. So you 476 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: may look and you might be like, oh, hold on, 477 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. So, yeah, I think it's it depends 478 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: on So we have to look at how we got 479 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: to this point, right, aggressive policing. That was something that 480 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: was actually put in the crime though. Yeah. Yes, and 481 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: my opponent Quais and food Make co sponsored it with 482 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and so this is how we got to 483 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: this situation. But um, so you know, clearing the corner, 484 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: stopped and frisk, you know, taking people, you know, like 485 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: you said, taking them out of their car, searching the vehicle, 486 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 1: no warrant, no reason to do so. Um, and they 487 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: do that in certain neighborhoods. That has to end, you know, 488 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: that has to end. And there's got to be more 489 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: community engagement, not just coming out and playing basketball at 490 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 1: somebody's kid, maybe having a conversation with someone, because I've 491 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: seen a lot of cases, I don't know if you noticed, 492 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of cases where police officers are 493 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: in the community and they end up in a situation 494 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: where someone isn't quite mentally stable, right, and then they're 495 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: pulling out their guns on that individual. Had they been 496 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: in the community and understood, you know, what that certain 497 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: individual isn't mentally stable and this is how he might 498 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: act irrational. Right, So I understand when they talk about 499 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: reallocating funds. I don't know about the whole defund the 500 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: police part, but I understand when they talk about sending 501 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: social workers into certain situations. I guess I don't love 502 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: it because I also see situations in Baltimore where a 503 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: cop can pull up to, you know, disturbing the peace matter, 504 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden guns are drawn, the cop 505 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: is shot. You know, so you never know until you 506 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: get there who has a gun? Um, I guess for me. 507 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about what's going on the community. 508 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: Like you said, over that nine what was it nine days? 509 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: We had so many shootings. So we have a state's 510 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: attorney who was very soft on criminal Her name is 511 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Marilyn Mosby. Her husband is actually a candidate for city 512 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: council right now. The president uh, he was in office 513 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: before as a city council president in the district in 514 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: which I was walking in in my videos. Right. So, 515 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: when you have a situation where these people are soft 516 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: on criminals, you see the newspaper, we'll talk about criminals arrested, homicide, 517 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: double homicide. This is their eleventh offense. How do you 518 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: are How are you an eleven time repeat offender back 519 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: on the streets to shoot and kill somebody else. You know, 520 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: there's gotta be some something, a kind of reity for 521 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: either the State's attorney, you know, the prosecutors, the judges. 522 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: You know, why are we giving murderers sentences for one year? 523 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: You know? So, so there's a lot of moving parts here. 524 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: Our police department is you know, had some corruptions. I 525 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw our Gun Trace Task Force. Uh, 526 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: they were taken down. That's how we move up under 527 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: the Consett decree. So there is some corruption there, But 528 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: I link it back to city Hall. You've got you know, 529 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: you can't have a corrupt police department without corruption in 530 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: city hall because remember the mayor still presides over that, right. 531 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: And then you've got the police commissioner. We've had three 532 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: different police commissioners in the past what maybe four years, 533 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: so we're never on lockstep with anyone. So we have 534 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot of issues in Baltimore City. It's corruption, mismanagement, uh, 535 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: corrupt police officers, and then the fact that we have 536 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: criminals basically running our streets. Wow, and then Democrats when 537 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: it had an opportunity to work with Senator Tim Scott 538 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: on training for police officers, among the number a lot 539 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: of other initiatives, they said no because they wanted to 540 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: keep it is a political issue for them, which is 541 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: extraordinarily sad. I know I don't have much of any 542 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: more time with you, so what I wanted to say 543 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: is that thank you so so much for coming on. 544 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: I've known you for many, many years. I respect and 545 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: appreciate your passion for people and what you do, and 546 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: I wish you very very well in your race, and 547 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: please come back any time and let us know what's 548 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: going on in the community, because you're rock star and 549 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna be hearing from you for many years to come. 550 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: So I wish you well. Thank you. 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